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快 Sam 哥来 安慰 我 一下 Lulu 也 来 安慰 我 一下 宝宝 过来 Lulu 爸爸 快来 跟 大家 说 说 今天 是不是 姐姐 不 开心 嗯 刚才 我 我 在 沙发 上 躺 了 好久 I think I came home like literally20 minutes ago 然后 呢 我 就 20 分钟 前 回家

了 以后 结果 呢 20 分钟 就是 呃 回家 了 以后 然后 呢 我 就 贼 累 然后 我 在 沙发 上 一直 躺 着 躺 着 躺 着 呢 就 突然 发现 姨姨 怎么 已经 8 点多 了 我 吗 我 胖 了 吗 可能 是因为 今天 没有 形象 管理 literally 就是 你们 看到 平时 打 工人 下班 回家 就长 这样 贼 惨 哎 okwell long story

shortbefore i get to the interview 今天 发生 了 什么 呢 其实 就是 这 样子 就是 basically 呢 我 现在 不是 管 大概

三家 哦 露露 胖 了 吗 就是 我 现在 管 三家 公司 对 不 对 然后 呢 大家 知道 那种 心情 吗 就是 every time you thought you ' re done with everything 就是 每次 呢 你 都 觉得 说 啊 我 终于 要 把 我 今天 的 工作 都 干完 了 真的 我 今天 本来 就是 想象 世界 特 美好 的 就是 因为 我们 最近 就是 我 住

的 这个 湾区 这边 呢 最近 开 了 一家 新 的 那个 日本 超市 然后 呢 再 加上 呢 其实 我 这个 周末 挺忙 的 就是 我要 给 很多 朋友 买 礼物 就是 有 小狗 的 生日 聚会 然后 有 朋友 的 孩子 的 生日 聚会 然后 有 我们 公司 自己 就是 过 两天 有 那个 holiday party a white elephantit ' s like all kinds of 聚会 然后 呢 我 想 说 ok 今天

呢 我 就 开心 的 去 超市 and then tomorrow i was gonna go to like a volunteer workand then in the afternoon i ' m gonna go to 朋友 的 这个 dog birthday party 然后 结果 呢 我 今天 就 一直 在 工作 就是 literally 到 现在 我 还 没有 吃 一顿 proper 的 就是 正 正常 的 午饭 和 晚饭 然后 我 真的 就是 就 就 就 就 就 就 原地 爆炸 了 朋友 们 就是 likelike 就是

就 就 就 就 就 就是 我 就 三家 公司 就是 我 就 就是 一个 一个 就是 这个 就是 md 们 就 来 找 我们 做事 真的 就是 每 一次 我 都 觉得 我 已经

要 做 完 了 然后 就是 做 不 完 就让 我 很 不 快乐 是 以 至此 先 吃饭 吧 然后 呢 我 就 到 现在 就是 就是 大家 明白 吗 我 like literally my brain powerlike my my my all my brain cell basically have been damaged 然后 呢 我 就 我 就 脑细胞 已经 死亡 到 就是 我 现在 都 不 想要 就是 花 脑细胞 去 想 我 吃 什么 so anyways 大家 可以

告诉 我 我 现在 应该 吃 什么 总而言之 就是 很 不 快乐 out of control yes Anyway, sorry, I was gonna, I know a lot of you guys wanted to like ask questions on interview, interview stuff. So I am still gonna get to it. But

let me like send to the two for 10 minutes. Um, 而且 大家 知道 吗 我 觉得 最 神奇 的 是 其实 上周五 的

minutes. Um, 而且 大家 知道 吗 我 觉得 最 神奇 的 是 其实 上周五 的 时候 我 也 在 公司 待 到 了 8 点钟 但是 呢 I felt perfectly fineI think it ' s because I didn ' t have any plansorat least like I didn ' t make any plans for myself 就是说 我 觉得 我 至少 我 的 心里 没有 想着 说 我 一定 要 去 干嘛 干嘛 干嘛 干嘛 然后 就

导致 其实 我 是 一个 比较 fluid 的 心情 就是 比较 随意 的 心情 就 我 想 说 ok 那 我 要是 需要 工作 我 就 多 待 一会儿 然后 不 需要 工作 呢 我 可能 就 早点 回家 这 样子 我 也 无所谓 但是 今天 呢 我 就 可能 特别 着急 回家

就 越是 这种 着急 回家 的 心情 然后 越有 事情 做 不 完 就 觉得 很 不 快乐 谢谢 怎么 还有 说 说 我 笑 下 好看 主要 是 不能 在 你们 面前 哭 我 的 内心 已经 崩溃 了 我 觉得 现在 的 工作 累 还是 之前 的 工作 累 我 觉得 还是 说实话 还是 之前 的 工作 累 吧 就是 今天 主要 是因为 怎么 说 今天 主要 是因为

我 想要 早 下班 但是 没早 下班 成 you guys know like Because people talk about MBTI all the time, right? And then apparently, because I was always a little confused about P and J. I thought it was just simply like whether you make plans or not. So I always thought that I was kind of in between P and J. At least I'm like super J at work, right? But

then I realized the biggest difference between P and J apparently is not whether you make plans or not, it's how, just as you said, you did this plan after you 你 如果 没有 按照 你 的 计划 走 你 会 不会 崩溃 然后 呢 其实 我 作为 一个 P 人 我 觉得 大部分 时间 我 是 非常 能 接受 就是 不 按照 计划 走 这件 事情 但 我 觉得 也许 就是 这周 我 太累

了 而且 就是 因为 下周 我们 马上 就要 就是 放假 了 所以 就是 马上 就要 放假 了 然后 呢 我 就 很着急 很着急 放假 请问 能 多 讲言 英文 吗 yesyesfor sure sorry I just wanted everyone to understand my ranting.

But yeah, I was just very upset today. Because I

thought I was going to come home at like 5 or something. And then when I realized, literally I realized it was like 7.30 or something. And then... Yeah,

and then I realized I have to come home for this. And then so I was telling my, I was literally telling my manager I have to go. And then

I felt like she, so we get along really well. And then so I think we built a lot of trust sort of in the past five months already to the point where like she knows I can do work. And then so she usually doesn't require me to do things like I guess sooner than what it necessarily needs to be. But then she was telling me like all these things that I need

to be. But then she was telling me like all these things that I need to do by Friday, or sorry, by Sunday, because everything like wants to get done, you know, by Friday, by Monday morning. And hold on, I felt like she could probably tell that I was a little upset. So there was something where I was, basically there were two emails that I was supposed to send out, but she's like,

don't worry, like I'll send it out, blah, blah, blah. So she knows I was a little upset. finance 都 有 很多 不 可控 的 yeah exactly 想着 口红 哎呀 每次 其实 你们 问 都 是 同一个 literally 就是 我 现在 就是 下班 人 就是 下班 人 打 工人 下班 以后 的 就是 非常 朴实无华 的 那个 形象 所以 I literally only 就是 把 这个 重新 放 了 一下 lipsticks

这个 是 主要 是 它 是 一个 韩国 的 色 号 是 03so I don ' t really know what it ' s calledbut it ' s called Terry Parra. Yeah. Yo, move away

Terry Parra. Yeah. Yo, move away from America to that. So I'm not... I mean, not really, but also we'll consider it. I think at the end of the day, it's like at my current age, I'm just going to be very like career orientated. I do

think when I went back to China, four-ish, six months ago, like during summer.

I really enjoyed it. I really enjoy living there. I think like if I have to pick a place sort of to live without working, I would definitely want to live in China. But I also felt like, you know, according to like some of my friends in China, especially like in finance, it's just not a very good career, I think now because of market. So I don't really see sort of a

short-term path for me to go back, but Overall, I think in the long run, I might want to go back. So we'll see. Just got here. Why were you upset again? I was upset because I had too many things to do. And I

upset again? I was upset because I had too many things to do. And I

had a... I wanted to do... I made some plans for myself. Not like they're rigid plans like that. But it's actually pretty dumb. I just wanted to visit a new grocery store, which is... such a 普世无化的愿望 and I didn't get to do it so it just really upsets me. Johns Hopkins, yeah that's Johns

Hopkins. Toxic, well it's yeah I wouldn't say it's toxic to me,

Hopkins. Toxic, well it's yeah I wouldn't say it's toxic to me, toxic like if If I think if someone tells me that their team is toxic, I wouldn't think it's so toxic is one thing, right? Busy is another thing. To me, my team is definitely not toxic

is just busy. Like we just have that many things to do. And then like, because right now it's the sort of end of year. So we're like building budgets for next year, meaning that we're like forecasting how the company is going to perform next year. So there's just a lot of back and forth. And then like earlier

next year. So there's just a lot of back and forth. And then like earlier this year, So I wasn't the only new hire, right? So we had like three, four people on the team and then we're like splitting across a few portfolio companies.

And then there was this one firm that we knew it's a little harder to manage because they don't have a proper CFO. So whoever is covering that company is serving quote unquote as like interim CFO. So like every quarter, you know, you kind of need to understand their pipeline, understand their performance really well. And especially at year end, like you need to be the person to actually like build out the model

build the budget. So that's what I was doing basically today. I have the model all built out, but then I just need to like confirm or discuss with people a lot of things. And I was also kind of waiting for my manager for a little bit of time. And then so anyways, there were a lot of details that I just, no need to share, but it was just a lot of like

going back and forth on some of the specific assumptions. And then again, like that's like one company. And then I have like a few others just things kept coming back, so it was very annoying. I live in the US, right? So, we use English all the time. I use

US, right? So, we use English all the time. I use

English at job, I use English in school, so, yeah. I

yeah. I don't know about Australia specifically, but if you're in the US, I would definitely say like try a hundred percent. I would try a hundred percent

hundred percent. I would try a hundred percent to find a job first because at least in the US, like you don't really need a graduate school degree to recruit. If

anything, I would say for like undergrads, there are more opportunities, like more interview channels.

Like people actually, especially if you get into sort of a, if you're in a target school, then people, companies actually go to your school to do like first round of on-site interviews and so um if you're in a grad school program um they actually don't really do that especially if you want to get into sort of the the front end meaning that like the front desk row like investment banking

um sales and trading or equity research or investment roads like all these it's actually easier to get in as an undergrad than graduate school in in the u.s

the u.s Let me scroll down to the bottom, okay? And I'm gonna, by the way, for whoever who's here for the first time, like, I'm gonna basically answer all the English questions in English, and my default is kind of English, but if you, like, specifically want something in Chinese, just in parentheses, say, like, say Chinese or something. 我 今天

就 先 就是 先往 下 然后 回答 就是 最新 的 问题 然后 如果 大家 是 第一次 来 的话 就是 我 基本上 都 会 用 英语 回答 问题 但 如果 有 什么 问题 你 是 想 用 就是 中文 问 的话 呢 就 给 我 括号 写 一个 用 中文 回答 就 好 了 is it easy to learn a good job without pr in the us

So I think it used to be a lot easier in the past because frankly, to my understanding, like all the big bold brackets, like all the banks, boutiques, like all of these, like they don't really care about sponsorship that much. Like, frankly, yes, they ask sort of in the first round of like applications, whether you are PR, like whether you need sponsorship or not. But I frankly, like I've heard stories where

people like, kind of lied in the initial application and went through in a later stage of the process and then told the team that they actually need sponsorship and it actually worked. So I don't think banks really cared all that much because one, it was very cheap and two, this is all sort of handled by HR, but

the actual recruiting process is more managed by the team in a lot of scenarios, especially if you're recruiting for buy side. So that's why I think in the past it wasn't really hard. I mean, granted it's still challenging because there is still the process to go. So if you are like

exactly the same as another candidate who doesn't really need sponsorship, they might prioritize the other candidates. But not having or needing sponsorship was never like a reason to

other candidates. But not having or needing sponsorship was never like a reason to 100% cut people. But I do think nowadays it's a little harder One, like definitely don't lie on your application nowadays because banks have been like a lot more stricter, like bank or companies in general. And like two, I

think because of Trump's late policy, right? Like it's people sort of companies are just not sure which category you fall into, even though we all kind of know that if you're doing like change of status in in the US without leaving the country, if you're physically in the country, technically that fee doesn't really apply to

you. But a lot of firms just been extra cautious. Actually, I've seen that more

you. But a lot of firms just been extra cautious. Actually, I've seen that more maybe with smaller private equities, like these smaller buy side shops because they are less sophisticated, I guess, on a lot of these immigration policies.

So yeah, anyway, so I don't think it's impossible, right? I think it's still possible to get a job. It just takes longer and it's probably you need to do better in interviews. It's my sort of my conclusion.

Wait, I... Okay, mian shi tips. Sorry,

I... Okay, mian shi tips. Sorry,

let me go to mian shi tips because today I kind of promised to refocus on mian shi. I've done it actually, I think a month ago of these kind of sessions. I think what it would be the... probably what makes most sense

of sessions. I think what it would be the... probably what makes most sense is if you guys ask me specific questions on interviews maybe like what kind of questions that you guys need most help with like that would probably be the best use of our time but i think overall you know i can walk you through

some of the general tips right so i think a lot of people uh when people like sort of prep for interviews or during the actual interview, people often lose sight of what an interview really is, right? Sometimes people are overly focused on tackling specific questions and overlook the fact that what is interview? Interview is really for

the company to assess basically three things. One, especially this is for like not lateral hire, but more of like undergrad students, right? Or maybe like entry level lateral hire. So, Are you interested in what we're doing? So no one's going to really expect you to be the expert. So I

doing? So no one's going to really expect you to be the expert. So I

pivoted from private credit to private equity this past year.

Obviously, I need to understand the difference between private equity and private credit. But has

anyone expected me to be an expert? No. So what you're really trying to solve here is how to demonstrate my interest. And so the way to demonstrate your interest is not to show off, oh, I know X, Y, Z, but however, maybe like understand a lot of things related to the team. And the easiest way to do is actually chat GPT. Like when I, I remember when I was in college, like

a couple of years ago, I had to like, to help me like do these mock interviews. But nowadays, like frankly, AI can do all of that, right? So last year when I was prepping my sort of pivot from private credit

right? So last year when I was prepping my sort of pivot from private credit to private equity, every single time when I get an interview, I literally drop the job description into ChatGPT and then drop my resume and tell him all the context.

So for example, like I am an associate who's trying to pivot from private credit to private equity. And this is a company that I'm interviewing with. So I know they do similar things with what I do in XYZ aspects, for example, like same sector, same size of businesses whatsoever. But help me brainstorm, help me prepare this interview by giving me, you know, all the questions that you think would

be likely to be asked. And then so then they gave me sort of that list of questions. And then oftentimes what's going to be on there is, for example, like, why do you want to pivot? Right? Like that's kind of way of showing interest. Like, why are you interested in private equity? Like, instead of just saying why

interest. Like, why are you interested in private equity? Like, instead of just saying why I'm interested in private equity, remember to combine with your past experience, whether if it's a lateral hire for me, for example, the natural answer would be, what are the things that I liked in private credit that is going to continue in private equity and what are the things that I dislike in private credit that is going to

be fixed in private equity. If you basically did some internships in the past, then combine those, right? So for example, like I did an internship in mutual fund and I will say things, for example, like I really enjoy doing the fundamental research and I want to understand sort of individual companies. However, I

didn't really, you know, talk about the pieces that I didn't really enjoy maybe in the public market because that's the biggest difference, right? Public versus private. So anyway, so that's kind of your number one questions that you're solving for, which is to demonstrate interest. And number two is, although they don't expect you to be an expert, they

interest. And number two is, although they don't expect you to be an expert, they want to know that you have done your homework. So what is your homework? One,

you just got to know what the team does really, really well. And that goes back to sort of the AI piece, right? You can always ask ChatGPT to probably do a really easy analysis on the company website, just to be like, okay, these are the things that the the company does

help me understand, right? Like what kind of financial knowledge is or what techniques goes I should know specifically related to this company. Then for example, for private equity, you probably need to know how to build LBO, right? You probably need to know sort of the basic understanding of like financial statements analysis. You should probably build

sort of an investment mindset, meaning that they might have asked you, well, they a hundred 100% will ask you sort of an experience of you evaluating a company from a sort of fundamental analysis perspective. You know, what are the things you will consider?

Like, these are all fair questions, right? What else? And obviously,

like, you should also do some specific research on their firm. Like what are some of the deals that they've done in the past? What are some of the sectors, industries that they focus, right? These are all sort of your number two, which is, did you do your homework? And number three is really the piece of, okay, like, is she willing to learn? Are we gonna, like, do I wanna teach her? Because

most of the times, you know, I can, I can share with you guys sort of later, actually lately I've been engaged in a process of how our firm look for like new CEO, which is completely different from what I've sort of explained, but in sort of more an entry level, right, or in sort of the undergrad recruiting

process, people know again, that you're not going to be 100% sort of, you know, know what's going to do on your day one, right? So what they're really trying to figure out is, would you be someone who's willing to learn and do they want to teach you? And so what is that, right? Many people think that that means, oh, it goes back to the question that, you know, I need to

show off how much I've known, but no, it's actually personality. So the last piece is always personality or people sometimes call it like vibe check or something where people want to know like, okay, are you enthusiastic about learning something? Are you willing to tackle like difficult tasks? You know, when things like

learning something? Are you willing to tackle like difficult tasks? You know, when things like today where, you know, I've just had so much work to do, am I really going to throw an attitude at them? Like these are the things, right? So that's

kind of your number three. So all of your interview preparation should somewhat be framed by these three things rather than, you know, having questions, like sort of having, a set of questions. Why is that important? Because a lot of the situations that I realized or that I've sort of learned from talking to people is, which

I actually used to do that as well, which is I have a set of questions, and then I have actually a set of answers as well. And I use the same answer every single time, regardless what who is the interviewer, and what kind of firm or team I'm interviewing with. And that is not correct. And I'm lucky because somehow I'm a little bit good at this where I

correct. And I'm lucky because somehow I'm a little bit good at this where I can sort of tweak my answer on the spot to fit in whatever.

the interviewer's personality is or what the team does. But I think the truth is, whoever needs advice on how to best prep for interview is to keep the framework, but be a little bit of fluid with your answer. Like try to always tweak it to make it fit the job that you're interviewing with. Like that's probably the best.

Okay, sorry, I'm just like scrolling into the bottom. I don't know chatGPC. You can

use whatever like DeepSeek works, Gemini works, all these work. It doesn't have to be one specific one. New York City? No, I'm actually in the Bay Area. Can you

slow down? Yes, I'm sorry. How can I find a job? You already have a job. What advice would you give for utilizing

job. What advice would you give for utilizing AI in fixing resume? Okay, that's a good question because I've seen a lot of people sort of throw their entire resume into ChatGPT and expect them to sort of spit out a perfect version of it. I think that's

just step number one. Like I wouldn't expect it to come up with any like perfect answers. I think to me, you know, I actually did another session the other

perfect answers. I think to me, you know, I actually did another session the other day, which is whenever you I guess, sort of use AI to do any kind of task, you got to break it down into very smaller tasks and you got to expect sort of iterations. Like you need to, when

I gave you something, you need to basically walk them through the process, the context, your comments as if they're like babies. And usually they'll come sort of out eventually with something good, but you just can't expect it to be very good. So coming

back to your question, I think what I would do, I've never actually used AI to really fix my resume in the sense that it asked me to sort of write out the entire, sorry, resume for me. I think most of the times I use it for word choices. Oh God, word choices and grammar.

So I usually what I would do is I will write out bullet points of what I did. So for example, like usually, you know, a couple of things that you can write and for finance firms is like the types of, I guess, what are some of the things that you do regularly, right? Whether that is, quarterly

financials updates or maybe some like comp stuff, competitive analysis or market studies.

All of these are regularly like these are kind of like one bullet point. Right.

And then like there are some bullet points on, okay, like this is a specific transactions that I've done. And then have that sketch out. Like, don't worry about the language for a second. Just literally use plain language to say, for example, like, oh, I help companies build out a budget at year end for this, uh, XYZ company that is in software sector, for example, like specifically FinTech, something like that,

right? Like use really, really simple language and then drop it into ChatGPT and to

right? Like use really, really simple language and then drop it into ChatGPT and to be like, okay, give them the background, right? Again, like every time when you give a task to AI, you need to give them the background, which is, okay, I have been in finance for like four years now. I'm hoping to pivot into from

private credit to private equity. So I'm reshaping my resume. Although my previous roles are private credit, but I want to, when I write down my resume, I want to focus on the things that are more relevant to private equity in terms of skillsets.

And then they will come back with something. Usually, I think they will come back with something that's super like AI written, like has AI tones. And sometimes I literally say, you know, change the sentence structures a little bit to make it sound less like, more like human. And then sometimes I would basically, they will come back with something and then I will change a few words and literally ask Chachabiti, be like,

what do you think of my edits? Do you think these are better? And then

sometimes they would basically sort of combine my comments with their initial draft to come up with something really good. So anyways, that's kind of of a long answer to how to fix your resume but i think you really need to do it step by step and really even have different versions of resumes so you're drafting whatever you've done in the past through the lens of the job that you're

looking for in the future does that make sense um Are you in New York City?

No, I'm in the Bay Area. Okay,

so if you think about the behavioral questions, right, it's less so I guess relevant to point two, which is more of the technical aspect, but more related to three, like are they willing to teach you? And number one, are you interested? And the reason why I highlight the first bullet point is,

again, I realize when people are answering behavioral questions, like for example, what are your strengths? What are your weaknesses? People oftentimes don't

strengths? What are your weaknesses? People oftentimes don't say things with a purpose. I mean, obviously there are so many like strengths and weakness I could probably like pick out, you know, for myself, right? But I don't always say the same thing for all my interviews. For example, like if you're interviewing

with banking, right? I would never put lack of attention to details, like something like this as my weakness, because that is straight up like a red flag, right? No bank will ever hire someone who thinks that they don't, they themselves don't have good attention to detail. And same for investment teams.

I know a lot of times people like to say something like one of their weakness is like as a junior person on the team, you know, they're less vocal.

Sometimes they're shy about sharing their opinions, blah, blah, blah. This one definitely works for banking, but it doesn't work as well for buy side shops. And the reason being because in sort of the investment firms, right? They're really trying to raise you with the mindset that you're gonna build sort of your own thinking, like

critical thinking on all these businesses. Like they don't want someone who just produce numbers because most of the case are like, they can probably find a hundred, like 90 out of a hundred candidates that are capable of building the numbers. But who is the person who's able to capable of drawing conclusion from these numbers like these are

the people they're looking for right so it goes back to behavioral questions then when you're answering like what are my strengths what are my weakness like these are the things you should highlight so so so that's why um it is so important um if you ever say to like an investment banker that i don't have good attention to detail like they're going to think that you're not interested in banking at all

because if you do, if you ever did a little bit of homework, you will never say things like that. Right. So that's kind of an example of how to incorporate the previous three points. And one other thing I would add there is so a lot of times, right, behavioral questions besides sort of the strength,

weakness, why is particularly important which i kind of explained i think in the first round already so like whenever you answer why questions like definitely tie to your previous experience um and and and it's not about because i know one sort of other pain point of a lot of candidates are they they

kept thinking how can i create such a unique answer to answer the question like why this firm like why goldman sex why JP Morgan and people often really struggle right because it's like I mean there are only that many reasons like and the answer sort of to the answer to that question is really like don't be creative

you know actually being creative is really horrific like could be really horrific because um you would rather play a safe bet so the the I guess the tip of how to stand out in those of those kinds of questions is actually to tie it to your own experience, meaning that, okay, so for example, like if someone asked

me, so like why my current job, right? As opposed to saying, you know, I wanna be in private equity because private equity enables me to do operations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and outside of investments, the way that I would frame my answer is, you know, So I've spent about four years in private credit in the past. I've enjoyed many things, particularly the sector that I look at, which is software.

past. I've enjoyed many things, particularly the sector that I look at, which is software.

But I do realize one thing, which is when I'm covering private credit, we actually don't, for example, go in depth into a lot of research because all we care about is downside and we don't break down a lot of the market components to really understand the growth potentials. And because of that, my understanding to private

equity is because we are going to eventually be the equity owner of the business.

So when we underwrite the deal, not only do we look at sort of the downside scenarios, but we really focus on how we can create value for these businesses.

And that is something that I felt is missing in my current job. And that's

why I'm so interested in this specific firm and maybe I'll add a second dimension to it, right? So in the past, I've been at sort of some of the largest firms and while I think I have built a lot of the skill sets that would be really helpful for my future jobs, I do think I'm at the point where I want to be a smaller team where I will be given

a lot of ownership of my work so that I can continue to be challenged and also leverage what I've learned to create value. So am I really talking about why private equity? What am I really talking about? Why this specific firm? Yes and

no, right? What I'm really talking about is myself. And that goes back to the three points, which is every single answer that you say should sort of speak to an aspect of yourself, whether it is why you are interested in this job, why you are a good person to work with. And what was my second point?

I lost it. I forgot what my second point is.

Oh, technical. Second point is more of the technical stuff. So anyway, so I felt like, again, like all of these answers should have, like all of your answers should have a meaning behind it and should represent an aspect of you, whether it's interest or personality. Does that

or personality. Does that make sense? Let me see what kind of work do you do like trader? No,

make sense? Let me see what kind of work do you do like trader? No,

I'm in private equity.

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really ask such questions? I think most of them are tech. I don't know which questions you're asking, but basically all the questions that I've sort of explained. Yes, those

are the questions that are often asked in finance. I mean, I think in terms of like strength and weakness, these are probably more like For banking, for people who don't have any job experience, once you kind of get through to the lateral hire, meaning that you jump from one job to another job, people ask those kind of questions less so, I guess.

I want to make a business, where do you find financial investment, financial, and financial, and financial? If you have products, I think the easiest is probably just go to

and financial? If you have products, I think the easiest is probably just go to YC, Y Combinator. They're like these like incubator where if you're very small, they would give you sort of the seed round of money and something called like SAFE. Like SAFE is like, essentially they gave you like, I don't know, like 500K

SAFE. Like SAFE is like, essentially they gave you like, I don't know, like 500K or something like half a million without even like owning any part of your company.

But, um, But yeah, but that's kind of, if they like your idea, that would probably be step number one. But I do think from my perspective, being like a software investor for quite a while now, I think investors nowadays focus more and more or are more in favor of what we call like

bootstrap businesses, meaning that like founders don't really rely on investments to generate revenue. So, which, you know, it would be better to like build out the product and sort of test it in the market to demonstrate like product market fit meaning that someone is really willing to use your product then kind of go to an investor you will probably gain

a lot more traction. You can AI project ma?

Yes, I wouldn't say AI is like a I do software investment, right? So no matter what business, we always sort of look at it through the lens of AI. If they don't have AI today, then our question is, is your product going to be disrupted by newer AI entrants? If you

have AI, then we need to understand sort of what's your applications of AI. Like,

does AI even make sense? I have seen some businesses, you know, like it's actually People like customers aren't really turning to newer AI products because that's not a good use case.

I think there are two sort of two components. One is what you actually say and two is how you say it.

components. One is what you actually say and two is how you say it.

I think the second part is probably a little harder because you can't really prepare.

I think in general, and so let's start with what you say, right? I think

the trick is, so okay, so the most sort of advanced level would have been you say things You don't have to explicitly say that, for example, you are a hardworking person or you don't have to explicitly say something like you have great attention to detail, but use an example for people to

understand, oh, you have really good sort of attention to detail. But that is very hard and it actually requires sort of a lot of repetition of, you know, a lot of practices to be able to do that. So what I'm going to tell you is your second tip, which is sort of, smoothly weave into things for example like uh when i first started my

job right um you need to when you whenever you first start a job you need to build trust whether with your manager or with your colleagues and one thing that i always explicitly say is i'm a very organized person like that is actually very more helpful than you think because consciously on to consciously people are going to accept the fact that you're going to keep things very organized and actually keeping

things very organized is the number one step of building trust and it's the same for during interview right like say when I'm explaining a project right if someone asked me okay walk me through this you know research that you did on Chewy. Chewy is actually a pet sort of online retailer company that I've looked at

Chewy. Chewy is actually a pet sort of online retailer company that I've looked at in my very first internship so If someone says, okay, look me through this project, right? And then during sort of this process of explaining my

project, right? And then during sort of this process of explaining my project, I'll give you an example. For example, I'll say something like, yeah, so tell me what you did in this project. What was your main goal? What have

you accomplished, etc. And so I'll say something like, you know, this is actually my very first research that I've done on a company. This was my summer internship project. So in this process, essentially I've gone through all the

project. So in this process, essentially I've gone through all the steps into doing research. For example, I analyzed financial analysis, I sat on a couple of calls with management, and most importantly, I actually did my proprietary analysis by conducting expert calls and doing a survey. So see, in this sentence, first of all,

have emphasis, right? So you put that most importantly into your sentence. So it

immediately captures people's attention that, okay, after this, most importantly, you're going to say something important, right? Okay. So now I've dropped people's attention to the latter part of this,

important, right? Okay. So now I've dropped people's attention to the latter part of this, which is, um, you know, uh, doing, uh, basically expert calls and, and, um, and proprietary analysis. And then I'm going to go on and explain it. So my first

proprietary analysis. And then I'm going to go on and explain it. So my first step was doing financial analysis. While I thought that all the financials were really good, my biggest concern of the company at the time was actually its competition with Amazon.

As we know, Amazon also does pet retailer businesses, although it's not big today. And it makes me wonder, and it makes me a little concerned that if they decided to shift their focus onto this pet platform, is it going to be a big disruption for Chewy? Are they still going to be able to win customers? So that was the biggest question that I was trying to

solve in my research process. And in order to do that, my manager suggested me to do expert calls. That was actually the very first expert call I've ever done by myself. And then I'll throw an anecdote there. For example, like, you know, initially

by myself. And then I'll throw an anecdote there. For example, like, you know, initially I thought my manager was going to do it myself, but she said, because I know the deal the most, so maybe I should do it myself. So in order to do that, I did a lot of prep work. Okay. I did a lot of prep work. You're telling people, right? I'm someone who is very well prepared before

these kind of tests and keep going. So I did a lot of prep work.

You know, I wrote down a diligence list and I actually sat through a couple of expert calls that my manager did so I know how to do it. And

I did it by myself. Frankly, I was very nervous at the beginning. So like,

you ask how to sort of put in your personality into it, right? Like, don't

be afraid of telling people that you were nervous. It gives people more of that human touch, right? They say, oh, I was very nervous, but it actually turned out to be a great call. I was able to sort of gain a lot of insights from that. The expert was telling me that although Amazon could go into this, but he doesn't really believe that this would be a focus because there are many

other focuses that Amazon is currently working on. Pet is sort of a smaller aspect to it. And plus, because this is a consumer text, so it actually requires,

to it. And plus, because this is a consumer text, so it actually requires, there are usually a lot of first mover advantage. So if Chewy is out there first and a lot of pet owners have already adapted, Chuy, then it's less likely for them to shift down to other platforms as well. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

And then, so in order to sort of verify the latter point, I actually decided to publish a survey on SurveyMonkey, and I was very lucky that I got more than 100 responses. And it actually did prove the point where Chuy was, you know, someone they would actually consider to be better because of their customer services and also

because of their auto-shift program. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, basically, I've explained I explained this project, this is a longer version of my answer, right? So you

don't have to, you might not have the time to sort of explain this in such a long way, but you see how I've kind of, after this answer, you basically know everything that I've done in this process plus my personality, right? I like

to get things prepared. I'm not afraid of taking calls myself. I'm not afraid of taking challenges, right? I know how to solve a difficult problem, you know, when I don't really buy in the fact that, you know, Chewy is just better than Amazon.

I did the calls to verify that. And after the calls, I did my own survey. And then also jump into, you need to jump into sort of the conclusion,

survey. And then also jump into, you need to jump into sort of the conclusion, right? So ultimately, I pitched a buy in front of the committee because of the

right? So ultimately, I pitched a buy in front of the committee because of the XYZ reasons. And then I remember that was actually the first stock I personally

XYZ reasons. And then I remember that was actually the first stock I personally invested in and I gained blah blah blah blah blah so like maybe have sort of a result or have an impact that's like tagged to the end of your answer to show the impacts that you've made, whether it's to the firm or to

yourself. So that's kind of a super long answer, but you see how when

yourself. So that's kind of a super long answer, but you see how when you're even answering a question about a project, which should be very technical, you can show your personality.

Okay.

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To be a hundred percent honest is a little harder because private credit at the end of the day is still a bi-side role like I was still investing. But

it is not impossible. You might have to, for example, like go through maybe like MBA or something because I think there are sort of two issues, right? One is whether you can get an interview or not. And most

of the times actually this is a challenge because frankly, I don't think any of these jobs are like super difficult jobs. You can probably learn on the spot and you can always sort of craft your answers to get through an interview, but getting the opportunity to interview is actually quite difficult to pivot. And that happened to me

as well. As you guys could probably tell, somehow like, you know, I'm, I kind

as well. As you guys could probably tell, somehow like, you know, I'm, I kind of get the process of interview, right? So when I was in school, I've always got like some offers each sort of recruiting season. And I've never really recruited for like longer than a month or so. But then this time when I

was trying to pivot from private credit to private equity, on a looser sense, it really took me like four or five months. I mean, granted, like first two months, I was like not super focused, but I did become super focused and still recruited for like two, two and a half months. So I felt like not being able to get interview or companies looking for a specific background is probably going to be

your two challenge. So maybe the advice is that you will have to like go through school or something.

CFA? I don't

think CFA is super helpful for private equity. It might be more helpful for like long-only shops, like mutual funds, these kind of stuff. I think they, in general, I've seen more of that for... I've seen more of that in their job descriptions.

Hold on. Sorry, I need to adjust something really here really quick.

This is, there is mini MBA. What is mini MBA?

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, minutes um i think my hours is is definitely better than before mainly because i'm at a smaller firm now versus before um also because like the past two three

years people call it like the golden time of private credit right so we were like really really busy like we weren't really closing that many deals but we've always been like looking at a lot of deals so that was uh not great and my hours was definitely worse before now it's a lot better and now it's like a nine so start, okay, morning, night, and maybe like around 6, 6.30ish,

I can probably come home and then like chill for a little bit and then maybe log in for another like three hours. But usually,

Usually it's like that, but like today, like on a Friday, I would stay at a firm for like what, like eight or nine, right? So it's, it's, it really depends. My first, my, my very first month here was very, very busy because I

depends. My first, my, my very first month here was very, very busy because I literally on my day one, I got added to like a live deal. So yeah,

it was, it was pretty bad. But, um, I think in general, I will say like, I think the Bay area or the West coast is just a lot more chill than, than the New York. Um,

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营销 压力 吧 但是 I think the social media is like this. Everybody's gonna

have better times, worse days, worse days. Today was definitely one of my worst days. Sometimes I think it's actually all

days. Today was definitely one of my worst days. Sometimes I think it's actually all about expectations. This is something I've only really learned or come to

about expectations. This is something I've only really learned or come to realization this year. For example, last Friday I actually stayed at the office later than this today, but I was perfectly fine because I wasn't really expecting to leave work at 5, right? Whereas like today, I was really, really hoping

that I could like sort of come home a little earlier. And

anyway, so it's all about expectation. And I think a lot of times, at least my personal sort of bad feelings always come from that I have expectations either of other people or of myself, of work, a lot of these kinds of things. And so I think what I tell myself is, right, like being in a

things. And so I think what I tell myself is, right, like being in a finance job or being in these kind of like super demanding job, you just need to be very flexible. You just can't have too many expectations.

And I wouldn't say there's no work-life balance at all, but I think for any jobs, if you want to do well, it's an unfortunate fact that you just need to put in a lot of time and energy. For example, someone asked about work-life balance, right? Even though I come home pretty early now, but I still constantly think

balance, right? Even though I come home pretty early now, but I still constantly think about the things that I need to work on. Think about my portfolio companies, think about the analysis that I need to build. I wouldn't really say like when I come home, I can just sort of throw everything away. But I do think recognizing my own emotion is also very important. Like for example today, I probably could have

stayed a little longer at the office. But at one point, I'm like, if I keep doing this, I'm not going to be happy. I'm not going to produce good work. If this is not so urgent, I'm just going to give myself a break.

work. If this is not so urgent, I'm just going to give myself a break.

Right. I'm not going to work on it tonight. And I've told sort of my teammates that I'm going to continue working on this on Sunday and they're OK with this is why it's so important to sort of build trust with your colleagues so that they are willing to accommodate your schedule. Right. Any any anyways. So anyhow, I think it's it's really important to acknowledge that emotion and just sort of

accept it and then like find ways that will make yourself most comfortable in that situation.

How do you quickly synthesize insights from extensive amount of data and charts?

Okay, let me come back to this question because I want to explain the other one or I want to answer the other one, the other one first, which is how to how to build around, tell me about yourself, it's that framework.

So what's the framework? So again, it goes back to sort of the three key points, right? It's important to tell people sort of why you're interested in this. And then, oh, this is another thing. I think one sort of the skill, one skill that really sets you apart from other people

in the interview process whether you can lead a conversation. I think a lot of times when people coming out of an interview and say, oh, I did horribly, it's mostly because the interviewer have asked you some questions where you were just, it was just completely out of expectation and then you didn't know how to answer. And then

it will happen, right? It definitely will happen. Like for one single interview, like there will definitely be some questions where it was like sort of out of expectation. But

I think the goal of an interview, or the goal of sort of mastering an interview process is to lead that conversation. And so in Tell Me About Yourself, one really important thing is actually to highlight key things about yourself. Because this is actually something I've only realized after I become an interviewer of other people. Like, It's actually

not easy to be an interviewer because you don't know what question to ask. Usually

I would say I'm a pretty outgoing person. I think pretty fast on my feet.

But there were many times where I was sitting in the Zoom room with a candidate and because I didn't really have a lot of time to go through their resume before I hop on an interview, I just don't know what to ask. I

literally have to read the resume on the spot and to think of questions and let me tell you like most of time if an interviewer have to think of a question about you in that circumstance they're gonna ask some very weird like random ever like the most random question ever on the spot because you don't know

where like his thoughts or her thoughts is going to lead you to so instead of that what you're gonna do is you're gonna feed the questions into that person's mouth meaning that So I typically say something like, I am XYZ, I originally grew up in Shanghai, China. I came here for high school about 11

years ago. And sometimes if the other person's like really easygoing, I would even like

years ago. And sometimes if the other person's like really easygoing, I would even like throw a joke in there. I'd be like, oh, it's such a long time, time really flew by. And then like you pause for a second, people laugh and then you keep going, right? And you're like, and so I graduated from Johns Hopkins where I did my three majors, international studies, sociology and economics. Growing up, I knew I

would be interested in learning something either about business or finance because my parents did blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then sort of lead me to where did I do internships and blah, blah, blah. But what's important though is I always leave the project that I want to discuss further towards the

back half of my Tell Me About Yourself. Because people most likely is going to forget whatever you say in the first 30 seconds. The purpose of your very first 30 seconds of Tell Me About Yourself is to show personality. It sounds weird, but because people quickly sort of have an impression of someone in the first, not even

30 seconds, maybe like 10 seconds of what kind of that person is. So use

your first 20 seconds to deliver whatever message you want to deliver in the best way ever. And then focus on sort of the content your second half of tell

way ever. And then focus on sort of the content your second half of tell me about yourself and be like, yeah, so I've interned at XYZ firm. And during

my time there, one of my favorite projects was this research project that this fundamental research project that I've done on Chewy, which I'm happy to tell you more about which i'm happy to share more later okay this sentence is very very very important i cannot stress more like if you forget everything that i said in this interview

or sorry this interview this this session just remember this one sentence which is i am going to tell you more later and then just put it behind the one project you are most confident in and trust me like 90 or 99 of the times Immediately after this question, or if they ever ask you

about a project, they're going to ask you on that project. Because no interviewer is ever trying to trick you. Like, they don't want to ask you on a project where you don't know at all. You know, all they wanted to do is to understand what you did in a project. They want you to share a project that you're most familiar with. So if you say something like, which I'm willing to share

more, which I want, I would love to share more, which I'm really interested, which I thought it was a great project, which I thought I learned a lot, whatever, you can say many ways of that sentence, right? They will focus on that project because the worst case scenario is you put a maybe multiple projects on your resume and the interviewer decided to take the project that you're not familiar with. Does that

make sense? So that's one thing you can absolutely avoid in that process of prepping interview. What if we have no work experience?

interview. What if we have no work experience?

Okay, well apply the same to maybe like a school experience, right?

Have you ever done any like school work? Have you ever been like a club, right? For example, like I could say something like, you know, I'm very interested in

right? For example, like I could say something like, you know, I'm very interested in it. I'm making things up. But like, for example, you know, I'm very interested in

it. I'm making things up. But like, for example, you know, I'm very interested in finance. So I decided to join this business fraternity to further explore and also to

finance. So I decided to join this business fraternity to further explore and also to meet people who are, you know, who shared a similar passion. And as part of this experience, we actually need to do an analysis on this specific firm or on this specific project which I'm happy to share more so

you don't have to it doesn't have to be an internship experience it can be any anything but I didn't go to an Ivy League that's okay like Johns Hopkins is not an Ivy League either right also like just just being in like being I guess four years into sort of finance, I've seen many, many people who

didn't graduate from Ivy League. If anything, like sometimes Ivy League could be really, in terms of like job searching, Ivy League could be really, really competitive because there are a lot more people who wanna do finance versus like some other firms, right? I

mean, I do think if you're non, it's not so much related to Ivy Leagues, it's more so whether you're a target school or non-target school. If you're like a non-target school, you do need to do more networking and stuff, but it doesn't really matter. By the

way, I'm like keeping my comments to the latest. So if I didn't answer, just ask again. Would you study, would you,

ask again. Would you study, would you, oh, would I do MBA? I don't know. Honestly, I think if I didn't get my current job, I probably would. Just because I didn't really enjoy my last row so much, I didn't want to continue being in the private equity market.

Private credit, sorry. Did I say private equity? Yeah, private credit. So, yeah, so I would, but now I'm not so sure. I think I'm going to stay maybe with my current firm for a little longer to really figure out if I like finance, if I like private equity. If I don't, I would probably, yeah, I would

probably go back to school. I am still looking forward to going back to school because, I don't think MBA is going to add too much to my career value, frankly, at this point. But I think it's going to add a lot to my, like what I call life value, meaning that when I was in school, when I was younger, like in college or so, I never really enjoyed school. I

kind of did well in school, but I didn't really like learning in the classroom that much. But I do think with all the work experience, I would actually enjoy

that much. But I do think with all the work experience, I would actually enjoy a lot more going back to the, to a classroom and learn from books or professors. So anyway, so I think I'm keeping that as an open option, but I

professors. So anyway, so I think I'm keeping that as an open option, but I don't have any plans right now. Uh, I don't remember this shirt. I was in that... Oh,

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了 就是说 要 靠背 单词 然后 去学 怎么 说 去 过展 词汇量 了 我 现在 更 多 就是 在 日常 的 比如说 阅读 也好 沟通 当中 如果 我 看到 了 新 的 单词 的话 我 就 会 多 看 几遍 或者 查 一下 然后 就 就 记住 了 absolutely rightmba is a mustmb is a must but not very useful at work. I wouldn't say MBA is a

must, because I've seen a lot of people who are like super successful in their like mid 40s or 50s without MBA. I think it's all about what you want to get out of it because I mean, I think to a lot of people, MBA is pretty expensive, right? And you also have probably the opportunity cost. You're giving

up sort of the every year salary bonus or the money you earn and then you're paying, I don't even know how much it is now, like 100K for tuition.

something like that.80 k , I would say 100k actually . yeah . 谢谢 ,

有人 夸 我 漂亮 呢 ? 诶 , 等 一下 , 我 这个 对 吗 ? 我 我 我 是 在 很 下面 吗 ? 我 是 在 很 下面

? 我 我 我 是 在 很 下面 吗 ? 我 是 在 很 下面 。 如何 在 前 三 是 没有 展示 personality ,

。 如何 在 前 三 是 没有 展示 personality , 我 觉得 更 多 是 我 觉得 更 多 的 是 自然 的 表达 吧 就是 可能 最好 的 练习 方法 就是 对 着 一个 镜子 或者 actually i would say the best way

is to record itrecord it so you can see basically your facial expression right are you making eye contact are you saying things too fast like i think one of my problem is whenever i ' m a little nervous or whenever i have too many things to say uh i speed up like I really speed up and I consciously tell myself to slow down, but I

sometimes still go too fast. By the way, if I went too fast, just like tell me to slow down. But so I think just more of like expression, be very familiar with whatever you're gonna say in the first like 10, 20 seconds, because those typically don't change, right? Just practice them many times, comfortably say it, and don't be nervous, just, I like this

friend. This

friend. This friend is the most seriously asking me this interview.

嗯 是 的 我 也 是 ENFP 嗯 说 说 就 卡住 是 什么 练 英文 吗 我 觉得 练 英文 是 这 样子 的 就是 嗯 actually it goes back to my previous answer rightin order to be fluentumyou just need to sort ofum repeat many timesand i think record yourself as wellsometimes if you sort of got stuck, it might be because you're not thinking fast enough.

I think that was also my issue when I first started. Because

obviously when you are not as familiar with English, sometimes people will translate English into another language like Chinese or something into their head and then express, right?

And then there's this lag. of a sudden you don't know what to say so that's one situation and then maybe another situation is sometimes um people like when people say things like when people speak there could be like grammar mistakes right i do think i also have grammar mistakes sometimes and i also want to tell you like americans like they have grammar mistakes as well when they speak

so don't be so caught up on it is my best advice. Just keep going.

Imagine if you're in China and then there's a foreigner who's trying to learn Chinese and if they say something in 道庄句 or something, would you say, oh, that's so weird, I don't understand what they're talking about? No, they won't, right? 等 下 好 朋友 們 我 有点 饿 了 did we orderokay but i want some snacks 哦 我 包里 好像 有 一个 那个 薯片 新 工作 跟 想象 的 一样 吗 还是 比较 一样

的 我 觉得 是 我 喜欢 的 东西 所以 虽然 我 今天 对 我 的 工作 很 不满 但是 我 还是 整体 来说 觉得 还是 很 一样 的 网上 finance bro 那些 梗 是 真的

吗 well i think i ' ve somehow met 了 一个 非常 atypical 的 finance broem so not so muchand also i think most of the finance bros 这种 大家 会 讲 的 可能 在 banking 比较 多 吧 就是 好像 我 身边 的 人 还

比较 正常 我 最近 给 大家 看 我 这 是 长得 巨大 的 我 又 不好意思 给 大家 看 我 长得 巨大 的 那个 What do you call this? Quayyao. I'm too hungry. I'm eating this hot chocolate. Wow,

my eyes are red. If you ever start a startup, can I work for you?

Sure. Do you code yourself for engineer? If I ever start a startup, I need technical co-founders.

Thought you were streaming at Chase Center. My background looks like Chase Center.

I think for now, well, I just started really my private equity job, right? So

I do want to sort of stay here for at least like two, three years to figure out if this is something I want to do. Frankly, like from my last role, I really felt like I didn't really like doing investment that much. But

ever since starting this job, I realized it wasn't really the investment that was an issue. It was one, the asset class and two, the people who I'm working with.

issue. It was one, the asset class and two, the people who I'm working with.

Obviously right now I'm only like six months into my current role. So I'm still in a little bit of like what I call honeymoon stage. So I think I need longer to digest. But I do actually really, really enjoy working with our CEOs and CFOs in such a close like collaboration. I just feel like I actually, you know, I think a lot of people, a lot of private equity

associates, like they hated the part of managing portfolios. I actually really enjoy the operation side of it. So I think if that's the case, maybe in the long run, I could either be like, I don't know, like a operating partner of a private equity or something, or maybe really being a CEO or starting my own job.

I have really considered about doing a startup because Obviously, I look at a lot of startup businesses, right? I've always been super inspired by a lot of these founders.

And I dream of owning my own business. So I think this is definitely something I will consider as well. But lately, I have also seen sort of the merits of not being married to one particular firm, but also to work with different firms. When I was very, very, very young, when I was, I don't know, in middle school or something, I met this, she's not

even my mentor, but it's just someone, she's like a role model. I really looked up to her. She kind of did the traditional like two years banking and then private equity and so on. And then, so I sort of learned about this concept of private equity when I was really young. And I used to think a very cool job is like those like CEO who specifically work and work with private

equity where they drop you into like a trouble business you go in you fix and then you leave and you go into next trouble business you go in you fix and you leave i used to think that concept is really cool obviously it's really hard to do right but that's something i would consider as well uh

true growth equity We're both. We do growth but we mostly do leverage buyouts.

Do you work for a big foreign? No, I work for a private equity. I

don't work for accounting firms. I think it's really fun. I'll give you guys an example. There was another day where me and my friends walked past a gym in New York. And then it was like a glass door, you can see through it, you

York. And then it was like a glass door, you can see through it, you can see all the like treadmills and like all the, I don't even know what those machines are called, but like all those, like, oh, oh, all those machines. And then my friend immediately was like, oh, I wonder what is like the return, you know, what, like how much do people pay? Like what

is the return? You can tell he's thinking through a very investor lens, right? Whereas I was thinking, oh, how do they make decisions like how many treat meals to buy, how many this kind of machine to buy? So I

was like naturally thinking very much like an operator, right? So this is something you could probably consider as well if you're trying to figure out whether you are an operator or an analyst. Oh,波波奶茶, how cute. Thank you, this is my friend.

好 甜 好 甜 好 甜 嗯 What am I eating ? chips 而且 这个 是 前两天 某 一个 那种 就是 大家 知道 在 一般

eating ? chips 而且 这个 是 前两天 某 一个 那种 就是 大家 知道 在 一般 在 priv equity or 就是 any buy shopbyside shopslike 会 有 那种 vendors 就 比如 像 什么 pitch book 呀 Kav IQ 啊 这种 他们 会来 provide lunch and give us like a teach inor something 然后 他们 带

的 这个 What are some great questions to ask interviewers towards the end of the interviews? Okay,

so this is an example that I would never tell you to ask specific questions for everybody. Your questions should always, always be tailored around that interviewer and that

for everybody. Your questions should always, always be tailored around that interviewer and that specific interview. But I will tell you sort of a framework of up with a

specific interview. But I will tell you sort of a framework of up with a question which is um so for example right um i i really like to ask how people have made certain decisions so for example there was an interviewer that i interact with um he like let's say he

also moved from new york to the bay area i realized you know some of the people instead of asking the questions that I'm going to tell you, like the way I would ask it, they would say something like, oh, how was your life in the Bay Area? And then maybe people will ask, how was your transition from

New York to the Bay Area? Like these are not bad questions, but it's not thoughtful or it's not a question where people are going to be like, oh, that's such a great question. So let me tell you how to ask this question. I

would think something like, I would say something like, for example, how did you make the decision to move from the Bay Area to New York? Or sorry, from New York to the Bay Area. Or I would ask something like, what are some of the factors that you've considered when deciding to move from New York to the Bay Area? See, immediately it kind of like provokes the

interviewer to think about the decision process they've made. And

most likely, they're gonna be, they're gonna be willing to share more about this process and you have more, maybe like a follow-up questions to ask. So you see how like you're kind of asking the same thing and maybe his answer would have been the same for these two questions, but the latter one is just a better way to ask that question. So typically like I like to ask how people have

made certain decisions, you know, whether it's geography or why they join certain teams, why they make certain career pivots. And then

sometimes I would also ask maybe something related to the team, like to show that I am actually curious about, for example, certain process, like investment process of the firm or, you know, maybe fundraising process. What are some sort of, yeah, things around, things on those notes.

what you shared today worth a texiao oh by the way um so usually i have for whoever's new i usually have this little like calendar thing where i'm gonna um so typically i do live streaming every friday and saturday or friday or saturday depends on my work schedule and then but next week i'm going to

be in Hawaii so I don't know I haven't really decided when to do this yet because there's also a time difference actually maybe tell me where you guys are like physically because I've always been super difficult to balance sort of when exactly to pick but either way like remember to like book this so next time when I

actually start like you will get a notification it's like very very helpful um Also word culture, my current team, my team has pretty good word culture.

Finally, somebody who speaks English. I've realized, I've come to realization that there are more and more English speakers on Red Note now.

What do you think of finance broke dress code? Oh, oh, oh, oh.

What do I think of finance for a dress code? I think it's pretty normal.

I mean, it's just like the chen shen and the vest, right? It's fine. I'm

okay with it. I do think people who don't work in finance are going to find it very funny and very eye-catching, but there's a reason because you have to wear a shirt. And then but you shouldn't be wearing a blazer because that's weird. But then sometimes in the office is actually really, really, really, really cold. So you want to wear a vest. That's it. I think

that's how this whole vest and shirt thing started. It's actually not that special.

I'm so hungry.

I'm so hungry. I'm hungry. I'm in Fortune 4. I'm also in ENFP. I can

coffee chat. Sure. 我 我 发现 我 我 来 湾区 以后 就是 有 好多 朋友 都 很 热情 然后 我 还 挺 开心 的 因为 我 感觉 我 在 这 也 就是 没有 很多 朋友 most of my friends areum in new york i really miss themso 求 small talk 技巧 这 不是 这 不是 上 一 这 不是 上 一期 的 吗 wasn ' t this wasn ' t this like last time ' s topic 嗯

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Yeah. Any hair care routine and tips? Well, I actually, well, someone asked the same question last time. I think my best tip is actually don't use the same product all the time. Sometimes in my videos, like I have some

like sort of brand promotion, like all those products, like I've, like if I recommend them, I've probably, like I've definitely tried them. So I would say those are pretty good. But I think overall, whether it's my skincare product or my hair product, I

good. But I think overall, whether it's my skincare product or my hair product, I try to switch them once a while.

I forgot where I read. I've definitely read sort of a scientific thing in the past where it's like, because every, obviously, every has like sort of a difficult, different components. And so it's actually not great to like use the same one all the time. And then so I always constantly switch. But

I will say the one conditioner that I've used sort of the longest ever since I was young is actually a 国产品牌叫Fenghua.我不知道大家有用过吗? 大家可以抠个1如果你用过。 I really, really loved it when I was young. Like when I was in high school, I would literally

was young. Like when I was in high school, I would literally 人肉 carry it from China to here so I can use it. So,

yeah.

Hi from Ohio. Okay, hi.

Okay, I'm gonna move to the bottom.

So I'm most up to date. It's kind of what I said before, right? Because like

imagine if you're talking to like a foreigners in China, would you really feel like the fact that they have a little bit of accents is like the worst case, like it's the worst thing ever. Probably not, right? It's mostly like the fluency, like if you're able to really express what you're thinking. I think because, I mean, frankly, like I don't care at this point because I know, I kind of

know where I am at, which is like, I'm probably like pretty good compared to most of the people, but I definitely still have accents compared to like Native Americans, which I'm, I'm okay with, right? So I don't really care that much when people like comment on my accent, accents. But I think the reason why I wanted every time when I see it, I wanted to sort of bring it up is I

want to make sure whoever is watching this, right? Like if anyone ever say things like, oh, your accent is so bad, like just ignore it. It's okay. Like you

are probably the one who's like actually speaking and then they're not right. And so

if you are speaking you're practicing you're going to get better like you're not gonna trust this like maybe my english sounds pretty good now right but when i was in high school when i first got here my english was really really really really bad and it's just it's yeah it was like trash but guess what like with time and with practice, it's all gonna be so much better, right? Which is why

sometimes when people ask me, like, how do you practice? I always tell people, you know, unfortunately, I mean, I was lucky that I have this environment. I was forced to speak English all the time. And then so I basically, my English improved a lot. But if you don't have this environment, right? If you don't live in the

lot. But if you don't have this environment, right? If you don't live in the US, if you don't live in an English speaking country, Just use every opportunity to speak and to practice. Whatever other people say, let them say it. Because you're ultimately going to be the one who's going to improve.

Don't worry about it.

Honestly, I would say maybe 12 to 1am.

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