$115M of Business Knowledge in 1hr (FULL COURSE)
By Tanner Chidester
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Service businesses offer high profit, low overhead.**: Service-based businesses are ideal for beginners because they have 100% profit margins, require no inventory, and can be sold on the same day they are created. [00:18] - **Focus offers on core human desires: health, wealth, relationships.**: Every action a person takes is driven by a desire for more wealth, better health, or improved relationships. Your offer must align with one of these fundamental needs. [00:37] - **Curiosity marketing drives engagement and premium pricing.**: Instead of generic taglines, craft unique descriptions that spark curiosity. This differentiates you, justifies premium pricing, and encourages potential clients to inquire further. [04:05] - **The $100M Offer Equation: Maximize outcome, minimize risk, time, and effort.**: An irresistible offer maximizes the determined outcome, minimizes perceived risk, time, and effort. While hitting all four points is ideal, even strengthening one can significantly improve sales. [07:22] - **Leverage free platforms for lead generation when starting.**: When you have no budget, start by messaging your existing followers and then move to cold outreach using Instagram hashtags. Focus on building genuine conversations to identify potential clients. [09:40], [14:41] - **AI tools can create compelling ad creatives quickly.**: Tools like Zebracat and HeyGen can generate video ads from scripts in minutes. Even if the ads appear 'ugly,' their effectiveness in driving clicks and conversions is often surprising. [26:26]
Topics Covered
- Focus on Service Businesses for 100% Profit
- Sell to Primal Human Desires: Health, Wealth, Relationships
- Craft Unique Taglines to Spark Curiosity and Command Premium Prices
- Leverage the Offer Equation for Easier Sales
- Master Sales Objections with Strategic Questioning
Full Transcript
I built a business that's done over $115
million in sales and made me a deca
millionaire many times over. In this
video, I'm going to show you every
single thing you need to do to make your
first $10,000 and beyond by breaking
down everything I did step by step.
First thing we need to do is we need to
find an offer. Now, you can sell or do
whatever you want. I would do a
service-based business. And here's why.
Not only because that's what I did. It's
100% profit. It only takes time. So, you
don't have any inventory. You don't have
to make something like a protein bar, a
watch, something like that, and you can
sell it very quickly. So, you could
literally make it today and sell it by
the end of the day. It's that fast. The
offer needs to be in the health, wealth,
or relationship sector. Every single
person only takes an action to either
create more wealth, right? They want to
make more money, get better health, or
better relationships. Nothing any person
does isn't around those three things.
So, if I say, "Hey, I need you to do
1,000 push-ups a day." It's not because
you want to do 1,000 push-ups. is
because a thousand push-ups increase
your health, your strength, your
muscles, right? That's the key thing
here. So, examples for health that I
wrote down is how to lose 20 pounds.
Pretty basic, right? How to train for a
triathlon, how to add 10 pounds of
muscle, how to prep for a bodybuilding
show. Examples for wealth would be how
to build an online business, something I
do, right? How to do Amazon drop
shipping, how to grow your
brick-andmortar gym locations, how to
buy and flip real estate. Examples for
relationships, how to find your wife,
right? or how to get dates, how to save
your marriage, how to approach women.
Okay, so those are basic. I'm going to
go into how you can make those more sexy
cuz that doesn't matter because you
don't want to sound like everyone else.
But that is the concept is what can I do
or show someone that's going to help
them make more money, have better
relationships, or you know, have better
health. In fact, one of my software
companies is directly built to help
personal trainers make more sales,
right? Make more sales in their
business. And so if it didn't do that,
it wouldn't sell nearly at the clip that
I'm trying to sell it at. Now, if you're
unsure about what to sell or you need
ideas, I would just go to either
Udemy.com. So, I'll show you guys these
on the screen. Udemy.com is actually how
I learned Facebook ads years ago. I was
like a hundred bucks. So, you can
actually come here and I'll show you.
You just type in Facebook ads
and voila, right? All these pop up. Look
at this. $22, 30 bucks, 15 bucks. And
they have a ton of ratings. like this
has 43 48,000 ratings, right? Like this
is pretty good and it's pretty cheap,
right? So, if you need help and or you
need an idea and you say, "Well, I don't
know anything." Which is bull, but if
that's how you're going to think about
things, you can go here and learn
something for less than, you know, 50
bucks. Okay. The other option is if
you're literally broke, you're in a
homeless shelter, like you have
absolutely no money whatsoever, you
could just go to allison.com and do the
exact same thing. So, I could come here
and I could type in Facebook ads and
boom, bada bing. Same stuff. So, you
know, 30,000 learners, 50,000 learners,
18,000 learners, 16,000 learners. Like,
you can go through and learn a skill.
So, just keep in mind a lot of the
skills that are going to make you money
out in the normal world is not taught in
school. Think about it this way. If it's
rare, that's how you can get paid a lot.
If it's taught in school where a lot of
people go, it's probably not going to be
rare. So, I didn't realize that a lot of
the stuff they teach in school, yeah,
sure it can help to a degree, but it's
not usually the stuff that's going to
make you the big money or the big bucks.
So, if you don't know what to sell
outside of like hiring a coach or agency
or consulting company, right, like some
people do with me with one of the links
down below, you would have to figure out
what you're going to sell. And usually,
I would go to one of these two places
because you can see what's kind of out
in the marketplace. And you can also ask
Chad GBT. You can say, "Hey, Chad GBT,
what what is something that's really
valuable right now that I could sell in
these niches?" Right? And then you find
something that you know pretty well or
something you want to learn. And that
becomes a thing you're going to sell.
Next up is we have to find a tagline
that stands out and creates curiosity so
people don't think you're just like
everybody else. So the form for this
tagline should either be I help people
do XYZ without ABC. I'll give you an
example in a second. Or I help people do
ABC using 1 2 3. Okay. Now you can add
in a little bit extra or you can take
away. But the goal is to be unique and
create curiosity. Okay? If you just say,
"I help people lose weight," okay? Like
every other personal trainer on earth,
that's so boring and it definitely won't
help you make sales, especially if
you're charging, you know, 2,000,
$3,000, $4,000, right? Which some of my
clients do. It's not going to help you
to get there. To get paid premium, you
have to sound premium. Okay? So, you
have to think, what is your unique
angle? What do you do better than all
your competitors? So to give you an
example of this something I sold is I
said when I had an online fitness
business I said how to eat whatever you
want without sabotaging results. Now
what I was referring to was calorie
counting and if it fits your macros.
Okay so most of science out there like
you know probably some of the comments
will disagree but most of the science
out there says that if you eat less than
your body needs you'll lose weight. If
you eat more than your body needs you
gain weight. Pretty simple right? So
instead of saying, "Hey, I teach people
how to calorie count or do if it fits
your macros," what I said instead was,
"Hey, I teach people how to eat whatever
they want without sabotaging results."
It created curiosity cuz people like,
"Well, what is he talking about?" They
would click on my ads or engage on my
content. And then I could start a
message, right? Because it creates
curiosity. And then I could also charge
premium because I said, "Hey, I'm doing
something that no other personal trainer
is doing." When I started my business
consulting company, one of the things
that made me super successful was DM
ads, right? for direct messaging ads or
so when you click on an ad it goes into
a DM. I was really good at that and so I
came up for a name with a name for it
called conversion conversations. Why?
Because I said I help people increase
their application rate by up to 72%
using conversion conversations. Right?
So people will go well what is
conversion conversations and then they'd
click on my stuff and engage and I could
then try to sell them. But if I said I
help people increase their application
rate by 72% using DM ads. The thing is,
if they already know what DM ads are and
they think they've done it, they're
going to immediately write you off.
They're, "Oh, I've already done that. It
doesn't work." Just like calorie
counting. Oh, I've already done calorie
counting. It doesn't work. But if
they're intrigued, if they're like,
"Man, what is that?" That's going to get
them through the door and that's going
to help you make a sale. So, the next
thing you need to come up with is your
tagline. Now, if you go, "Well, there's
nothing really unique about what I do."
You got to go back to the drawing board.
Because if there's nothing unique about
what you do, why would someone pay you
more money when they can get the same
thing down the street? And that's where
most people lose because they're
fighting the battle of price, right? Oh,
well, I'm this train. Well, this trainer
down the street said this. But if you're
able to say, "Well, I do this
differently than every other trainer.
That's why you pay more cuz you're going
to get better results." Then you can
charge whatever the you want. And that's
what has made me so successful cuz I can
charge a premium price for quote unquote
the same work, but because I'm able to
establish it or market it in a way
that's different, people will, oh, like
that's why you're so good or this is why
I should pay you more money. Hopefully
that makes sense. So, it's not about
being deceiving, but you have to present
it in a way. It's like if you're trying
to get a girlfriend and you said, "Yeah,
I'm just an average guy. I'm like every
other guy. Like, I really have no
special qualities." Like, you're not
really selling yourself. But if you say,
"Hey, like I go to the gym all the time.
I make a lot of money. I'm decently
tall. I want to have seven kids." You
know, whatever. And it's what that girl
wants. Then you're going to stand out
from the other men she could possibly be
looking at. Okay? So, hopefully that
makes sense. So, we come up with the
offer, then we come up with the tagline.
This is step by step. Okay? So just
follow this to a te. The next thing
we're going to do is we're going to run
it through Alex Termoszy's $100 million
offers offer equation. Okay, I don't
even know what they call it, but I call
it the offer equation. So there's four
key points. Determined outcome. Okay, so
that's what is the outcome they're going
to get. So for example, this is the
easiest part. It's like make more money,
lose weight, etc. Like it has to be
something people want, right? So if you
say how to be happier, like that's not
like an outcome. People are like, how
the do I get that? But if it's around
money, health, or relationships, it's
really easy for people to conceptualize
what they're going to get. Next thing is
perceived likelihood of risk. So, how
likely is it that they're going to get
it? I'll walk you through a normal offer
in just a second. Then time. So, how
long is this going to how long is it
going to take? And then effort. How hard
will it be? So, most offers only have
one out of four. That is okay. You can
still make a lot of money, but it puts
more pressure on you to be better at
sales, marketing, fulfillment, etc. The
more points of this that you have
filled, the less skilled you have to be
at actually running a business. So, let
me give you an example. If I take how to
lose 20 pounds through this, let's look
at it. How to lose 20 pounds. Determined
outcome. Bing. People want that.
Perceived likelihood of risk. Pretty
low. Like a lot of people fail at losing
weight, right? That's why there's so
many overweight people in America. Time
takes a lot of time. Effort. It's pretty
hard. So, that's only one out of four.
So, can you sell it? Sure. But your
marketing better be pretty damn good.
because if it's not, you're not going to
win. Now, let me give you an example of
something that has a lot more points.
I'll give you one of my portfolio
companies that I have equity in. It's a
day trading offer with an app. Okay? So,
the app does the day trading for the
person. It has a 2:1 win ratio. Works
really well. So, determine outcome,
you'll make more money. Okay? Perceived
likelihood of risk. 2 to1 ratio to win
rate. So, pretty likely you're going to
win. Time, it's instantaneous. It does
it for you. Effort, none. So, that's
four out of four. that offer sells way
easier and way better like a 10x ROI on
ads because it hits more of the points,
right? So, if you're looking at the
offer equation that you can read and
learn about in Alex Herozy's $100
million offers, right? The way he put
that out there, I was doing it for
years. I just didn't realize is that
it's easier to sell. So, it doesn't mean
your offer has to hit all four points,
but in an ideal world, in an ideal
scenario, we want to get some the
outcome with 100% certainty right now.
No effort, right? That would be the best
outcome. Most offers don't work that
way, but it's good to know so you can
make the offer as good as humanly
possible. Now, we need leads to sell it
to. Okay. Now, in terms of getting
leads, I'm going to assume you have no
money, right? So, if you do have money,
you can skip this part and skip a little
bit ahead in the video. Otherwise, I'm
going to pretend you have no money.
You're brand new. You're broke. It's not
even an option for you. Okay? I'm going
to start by reaching out to all my
followers. I don't care if you have one
follower or 10,000 or whatever. When you
start, it's really simple. You can just
come right here and you look at my
follower list and you can go down here
and you look for people that possibly
will like your service. Now, I've done a
lot of ads. I've done a lot of Instagram
shoutouts, a lot of stuff. So, not every
follower I have is a quote unquote good
follower, someone who's going to buy.
But if I'm looking at these individuals,
right, I want to find someone who I
think uh might buy my service. So, this
person generating millions of views with
clients d like we can message them.
Okay. Keep showing this guy. This guy
looks legit, right? Okay. He's a
trainer. He looks ripped. Someone we
could reach out to. Okay. Um, this guy.
Okay. He's not necessarily has a
business, so maybe not be the best one
cuz I I'm doing business consulting.
Okay. Maybe this one. Online energy
healing program. So, you guys kind of
get the gist. Like, I can skip through
this and find like this person probably
not, right? Let me show you a couple
people. Maybe this one probably fake
account. Okay. This one probably not a
good account. uh this guy definitely.
Okay. What you want to do first is you
want to reach out to these individuals
and you can just start by having a very
simple framework. Okay. So if I took you
through the actual framework
is pretty simple. You first would just
say hey thanks for the follow.
What's your goal for XYZ? And because
they're following you it's going to
land. So what I would say this guy say
hey dude uh thanks for the follow. How's
your business going?
It wouldn't be weird because he's
already following me. And then he's
like, "Oh, yeah. It's doing good, etc."
I'm like, "Cool. What's the goal for
this year?" "Oh, I want to make, you
know, a million." Got it, dude. That's
awesome. What's your struggle? I just
don't know how to get leads
consistently. Oh, really? Like, what
what's up? Like, what have you tried?
Have you tried ads, etc.? Yeah, I mean,
it just didn't really work before. It's
like, oh, got it. Like, have you ever
had a coach? Yeah, it didn't go that
good, etc. It's like, well, look, like,
not to be cocky or anything, but I've
done $150 million in sales, so I'm
pretty good at scaling businesses. if
you're open to some help, be happy to
set up a call to see what that could
look like, right? And then you can fight
through their objections. Okay? Now, if
you haven't done $15 million in sales,
obviously you can't say that, but you
want to just be like, "Hey, like I could
help you, but like no pressure." It's
called pushpull. You want to make sure
you do that because if you don't, it
makes people really uncomfortable. So,
the goal is to get them to think the way
you think by using questions. If I just
tell you, hey, you're stupid. You don't
know what you're doing. You're dumbass.
Like, that's not going to work. You
don't want to tell them what to do. But
if they say something like, "Oh, dude,
like I just can't afford it." I say,
"Yeah, dude. I totally get that." Like,
"Isn't that exactly why you need this,
right? Cuz I can ask questions to get
them to change their mind." Now, if they
don't change their mind, you're not
going to be able to sell them. But you
got to ask questions, right? I don't
have time. Yeah, dude. I totally get
that. Like, you're going to definitely
have to sacrifice if this is something
important to you. Um, what's your
schedule look like? You know, do you
think you can find two hours here? Okay,
cool. Awesome. Yeah, I don't know. I've
been scammed before. Yeah, dude. I
totally get it. Like, have you had
girlfriends before? Yeah. Do you have a
wife? Yeah, I do. Okay, got it. So, out
of all 10 girlfriends you had, you only
married one, right? Okay, cool. It's
kind of the same thing when you find a
coach. Some are good, some are bad. Does
that make sense, right? Like, you can
find the easiest thing in sales is
people are always looking for oneliners
or what to say. It's really simple for
them to get someone to buy something
from you. They have to believe you,
right? They have to believe you're an
honorable person, a trustworthy person,
and they have to believe what you're
selling can help them. So, the
objections are because they don't
believe that. And so you have to ask
questions that get them to think, "Hey,
maybe this guy is truthful. Maybe this
person can help me." Once you do that,
you're going to get a lot of results.
Okay? So, the first thing you do is when
I started my business, I just literally
messaged all my followers. I would do
about uh 20 per hour, 100 per day, and I
think I had a couple thousand followers
to start. And then what happened is the
numbers I'm looking for is let's say you
do 20 per hour, 100 per day, because you
don't want to get a spam block. So about
20 per hour, you'll get 10 or 15 people
to reply. Pretty low be, you know, or
excuse me, you get about 30 people to
reply. 20 to 30. Okay? And then out of
that, you get 10% to book a call. So
let's say 30 people reply. You work
through this DM process. 10% and then
book a call, three, and then you
hopefully close one of those. And then
if you don't close one, let's say you
need six calls or you need nine calls.
Well, then you just got to do double or
triple the work. But because you're
starting from zero and then you can
charge $1,500 plus or $3,000 plus, like
it is well worth the effort. And that's
also why I like selling premium because
then you can afford to do this work. If
you were doing all this work just to try
to sell, you know, a $100 thing. That's
just not going to be worth it. Once
we've exhausted our followers, we're
going to want to go to cold followers.
Okay? So, if you're going, "Well,
Tanner, I don't have any leads or
followers or like I'm completely new to
social media." Then, we're going to want
to transition. So, we're going to go to
cold. Now, what I do when I'm going to
cold is you can go to Facebook groups,
but those have been beaten up over the
years and everyone gets DM'd in Facebook
groups. So, what I prefer instead is IG
hashtags. You could also do LinkedIn
depending on your offer, but like I'm a
bigger fan of IG hashtags. Okay, let's
say I have a fitness offer. What I did
back in the day is I would just go here
and I go fit mom or whatever I think a
good fitness hashtag would be. And you
could type in fit mom, go to tags, and
you can see 30 million posts, 140 posts,
111 posts, okay, so let's just say I go
here. And what I'm going to do is I'm
going to scroll down until I see someone
who's a little bit out of shape. like
not in a bad way, but you know, I want
to find someone, okay, who might want
coaching. So, this person, individual
has a big profile, like they're probably
not going to pay for coaching. Like, I'm
looking for someone who is genuinely out
of shape that I can DM to try to get on
a call. Okay? Now, obviously, you're
going to see a lot of fit individuals on
here, but some of them are not going to
be fit, and those are going to be the
people that we're going to want to reach
out to. Okay? So, like, let's say I
reach out with this person. Okay? So,
she's a coach, right? So, I don't want
to reach out to her. You could read that
really quickly on her profile. You might
have to scroll for a bit. It might take
you 2 to 3 minutes to find a person. But
if you do this for an hour and let's say
it takes you 3 minutes to find a person,
you can find, you know, 20 people give
or take that are going to be a that
you're going to be able to message,
right? And that's kind of what we're
shooting for is like 15 to 20 per hour.
So you go, "Oh, this takes so long. Like
I have to scroll so much. You know, it
takes me 3 minutes." It's like, you're
broke. So get the over it, right? You're
broke. And there's not really a better
way to do this because you don't have
any money. Okay, so let's say I'm going
to scroll down and you can see a lot of
these have a lot of views. This would be
perfect. So let's just say this woman
was not in as good a shape. Like let's
just say she's in a little bit um she's
a little bit out of shape. She's perfect
because she's not promoting a business.
She says girl mom. She's in Houston,
whatever. And she's trying to obviously
get in shape. She's in fitness. So let's
just assume she was out of shape. you
could message her and you would say, um,
I'll walk you through the framework, but
that's that's essentially how it goes. I
haven't done this for a bit because I've
been running my business for eight years
and like I don't really have to do this
anymore cuz this is how you start. But
you're going to want to find a hashtag
that makes sense. Now, once you've done
that, we're going to just do it a little
bit differently because you remember the
warm leads, these are cold leads. So,
I'd say find something to compliment
them on. So, it's say it's a it's a girl
mom, right? Be like, "Oh my gosh, your
hope this isn't what you're saying. Your
kids are so cute. I'm from a family of
seven kids, so I just had to give you a
compliment. Oh, no. Totally cool. Yeah.
What do you do for work, by the way? Oh,
I, you know, I'm a registered nurse. Oh,
awesome. Does that keep you busy?
Everyone is going to say yes. So, notice
like the questions I'm asking as well.
Like, I already know what they're going
to say. Like, this is premeditated. They
go and I go, "Got it. Does that make it
hard to work out or does that make it
hard to go to the gym or does that make
it hard to eat healthy?" And they're
going to go, "Yeah, it does." And now,
boom, I'm in the sales pitch. So, it's
like, "Oh, okay. Got it. like what are
your fitness goals? I'm just curious.
Oh, they're this. Like, got it. Like,
what are you struggling with? I just,
you know, just not seeing progress.
Like, what have you tried before? Like,
have you tried this? Have you tried
that? Oh, yeah. Just hasn't worked.
Well, have you ever had a coach? Like,
you know, no. And remember, just ask as
if you're at a bar or you're just
getting to know them. Like, don't make
it weird. And then you're like, well,
look, you know, I don't know if you care
or not, but I do this fitness stuff all
day long. Um, so I'd be happy to offer
you some help if when you have some
time. Just could hop on a quick call and
see if I could help. No. And no pressure
by the way. Like it's super simple right
now. If you need help with this type of
stuff, you're like, "Hey, I need to know
exactly what to say, how to say it, when
to say it." There's a link down below
you can apply to work with me and my
team. But like this is the framework.
This is the framework that's made me
million dollars in a year. And then I've
done $15 million in six years. Like the
same framework. Okay. So for B2B, let's
say that's B TOC offers. B2C offers is
business to consumer. So it's not a
business. It's you're selling a service
just for them. Okay? So fitness for
example is B toC. B2B is, hey, you're
trying to help grow their business. It's
a little bit different because it's
going to be a little bit more direct,
right? Because they kind of know why
you're reaching out. So, what I do for a
business, I go, hey dude, sit Corvette,
right? You start with compliment, dude.
Sit Corvette. I've been thinking about
getting one. How's it run? Oh, it runs
really good. Cool, dude. Like, how's By
the way, how's business going this year?
Right? So, I already transition really
quickly because like they have a
business, they're a business owner. It's
already usually on their profile. They
know or you know, and they're like,
"Yeah, like here's my goal." I'm like,
"Dude, awesome. Like, any struggle
getting there? like everything going
pretty smooth and then hopefully they're
like, "Yeah, like you know, I've been
running leads. They're not coming
through consistently, having some issues
with ads." Got it, dude. Like, have you
ever tried this or this? Like, I've ran,
you know, millions and millions of
dollars in ads, so like I I'm pretty
adept at it. Oh, no, I haven't. Like, or
you know, I have. It's just not going
that well. Okay, got it. Like, you ever
had a coach? Yeah, I mean, just hasn't
gotten that good. It's like, well, dude,
like I don't like I said, you know, I've
done $150 million in sales, so no
pressure or anything, but I, you know,
I'd be happy to get on a call with you
and like see if I could like help. Um,
no pressure though. And it's as simple
as that. And some people will say yes
and some people will say no and you move
the on, right? And so then a lot of
people look at this, they're just like,
what are the numbers I'm looking for? So
when you're doing warm outreach, it's
100 messages, 20 per hour. Okay? 100
messages per day, 20 per hour. Usually
you're going to get 30% respond. 10% of
those responses will book a call. Okay?
So let's say you send 100 messages, 30
respond, three book a call if you're
doing things right. If you're not
getting those numbers, then you're off
in your process. something's wrong. For
uh B to for cold outreach, it's usually
going to be 100 outreach, 15 10 to 15%
respond and then you'll book like, you
know, 10% of those. So like one call. So
the difference is usually it's going to
take three times more output for cold to
get the same you're going to get for
warm. And that's just how it works
because these people don't know you're a
stranger versus people who are already
following you. They're kind of your
friend, right? They kind of know who you
are. Okay. And now we can go into
boosted posts or we can go into paid
ads. Okay, what you're going to want to
do is you're going to first want to go
on Instagram and you're going to want to
do it from your desktop because Apple
charges like a crazy fee. You can go to
any post. You can boost the post. Okay,
so I could click here and boost the
post. You say boost without music.
And the benefit of this is think about
it is you need to make more sales, you
need more leads. to get more leads, you
have to do cold outreach, which we
already went through, or you message
your followers. At this point, if you've
made a couple sales, you have cash, so
you can now put that back into the
business. But it's it's a slow thing to
try to be go viral or be an influencer
or to keep messaging people, right?
Like, the business isn't going to really
grow. It's going to stall, and you're
going to be trading your time for money.
It's okay in the beginning, but now we
got to transition. So, the point of a
boosted post is it's really cheap, but
then Instagram or Facebook, in this
case, Instagram, is going to push it out
to new people who possibly will follow
you. And I'm going to show you what
those metrics look like in a second. So,
what I'm going to do is I'll hit the boo
boost the post button. You click visit
your profile. Okay, you can do a
suggested audience or you can come up
with an audience. So, you can create
your own and you can put in the
locations and the age range and all that
kind of stuff. Pretty self-explanatory.
Usually I would start with suggested,
but if it's bad, you could come here and
say, "Hey, I want to do this for, you
know, the United States."
Okay? And you click save. And then you
could do, hey, I want to do this for,
you know, they have to be at least 25
depending. And um you say, I don't want
them to be more than, you know, 45
and all genders. Okay? So you save that.
And then you could pick your budget per
day. Okay. Now, your budget per day just
comes down to usually what I would do is
okay, audience name. So, you just put in
a fake thing here, your name, and then
your budget. So, your budget per day is
just what you could spend in a month.
So, let's say you're like, "Hey, Tanner,
I can only spend." And at this point,
you should have a couple thousand dollar
cuz you made some sales. So, let's say
you have 3,000 for the month. Well,
that's about 100 bucks a day because 100
times 30 is 3,000. And you're like,
"That's about what I want to spend." So,
you take, you don't have to do just one
boosted post. You can say, "I'm going to
do five boosted posts." And you do 20
bucks a day per uh boosted post,
something like that. Okay? It's totally
up to you. But I usually would spend
minimum, right? Like if you want to get
some traction, I'd say like at least
like 20 to 50 bucks a day. Okay? If you
can't spend that, like you shouldn't be
doing boosted post. And then you're
going to boost it. Now, once you've
boosted it, here's the beauty is you're
going to be able to reach out to these
people very cheaply. So, what you're
looking for is 10 to 20 cent profile
views, okay?$1 to $2 per follow. So, let
me give you an example. If you spend
$1,000 in boost of posts, you get 500
followers uh at two bucks a pop, right?
By the way, if you're going, "Hey, well,
how how do I how do I, you know, see,
you know, how well it's doing?" Well,
when you boost a post, you can see the
stats. Okay? So, once you've boosted a
post, let me go back to this. Once
you've boosted a post, you could go to
view insights, and the insights will
tell you, right? So let's say I click on
view insights and you can see all the
stats over here and because you boosted
it you're going to see how many likes,
how many followers etc. Okay, so if this
went to your followers or excuse me if
you or you had nonf followers, right?
Cuz it's like profile visits, follows,
right? You could see all these metrics.
Well then it's like hey if I spent 100
bucks on this yesterday and I had 10 new
followers like you could do the math,
right? It needs to be one to two bucks.
Okay, why does it need to be one to two
bucks? Because the metrics will not make
sense. All you're going to learn in paid
advertising is it's a numbers game, but
you got to have the numbers in KPI. So,
for example, if I was trying to get on a
date and I wanted 10 dates and I had to
ask a 100 girls a day, but I had to pay,
you know, these girls a dollar each
time, like, it has to make sense. If I
had to pay them $100 each time, like, it
doesn't make sense anymore. Hopefully,
you're making sense of what I'm saying.
Like, it comes down to how expensive it
is to run ads. Ads work no matter what.
It's just how cheaply or expensive they
are is going to determine your ROI. So,
we want $1 to $2 per follower, 10 to 20
cent profile views. A profile view just
means they saw your ad, they clicked on
it, they went to your profile, that's
it. Usually about 10% of those people
will follow you. So, that's why I say$1
to $2 per follower, right? Cuz if you do
10 10 cents time 10, that's a dollar. 10
uh time 20 cents is $2, right? Okay. So,
$1,000, you get 500 followers, we'll
just assume the worst case scenario. You
message all them, usually about 30% will
respond. Why? Because they're following
you, remember? So, it's like a actual
follower. it's going to be a higher
chance that they respond. So, out of 150
people, cuz that's 30% of 500, 10% book
a call. You close 30%, which is pretty
industry standard. Most of you can close
at a higher clip if you get really good
at sales. Okay? I'm going to go through
sales in a second. So, you close five
and if you're charging $1,500, you made
$7,500 off $1,000. Okay? And then you
can rinse and repeat that process.
Right? Now, I have some clients who are
doing, you know, $150,000 a month just
with boosted post. Literally, like this
is their whole strategy. The upside of
boosted post is you get a lot of volume.
The downside is usually the quality is
not as good. So, there's trade-offs with
ads. If you start making money
consistently and you want to have more
direct ads where they come straight into
your DMs or they go straight to your
website, right? Then that's what I call
straight to page or DM ads. If boosted
posts are working for you, just stick
with that, right? The only time you're
going to want to upgrade to other ads is
if you're trying to scale the business.
So, there's a restriction on boosted
post past a certain point because you're
going to get what? A spam block, right?
you're going to be reaching out to so
many people or you're going to get a
block or you just want to really scale
the business. So boosted post could get
you to like, you know, I've seen 100
150,000 a month. Most of you might be
like, "Yeah, that's plenty." Like that's
all I want to get to. But if you want to
get to half a million a month or a
million a month that you got to start
running regular ads. So when I say
regular ads, you have straight to page
ads or DM ads. So the first thing we
have to do is we have to actually make
the ad. Obviously I I know how to make
normal ads and I shoot a lot of those
kind of like how you're seeing this
video like get a camera set up, do a
backdrop, you know, come up with a
script. But I'm going to show you guys
like how to make ads AI ads and I'm
going to show you how to come up with a
copy form. So two things that we use to
you make AI ads now is Zebracat
and
Hen. Okay. So I'm actually going to sign
into this. Let me go log into this and
we'll rock. Okay. So I'm going to come
here and create a video. All right. So
this is Zebracat. There's a bunch of
stuff you could probably use, but to me
these are the two best that have worked.
You're gonna laugh at how some of these
ads look, but you'd be shocked at how
much money they're making my company.
Even though they're ugly, they get a lot
of clicks. They get a lot of people
through. And ultimately, like it doesn't
really matter if it's ugly or not, if it
works. So, let's just say first, I'm
going to reverse order this. Let's come
with a script. Now, you could come with
a script on your own, but let's say
you're new to this and you're nervous.
What you could do is I could come to
chat dbt and I could say, "Hey, uh, my
name is Tanner Chidister and I've done
$15 million
in sales in under six years.
Um,
I now live my dream life and paid off my
parents mortgage.
um bought uh my dream car, a Lambo,
let's see, SVJ,
um travel the world, and basically live
my dream life. Um,
I have helped over 50K business owners
use the same
strategies. Let's see
that I have um with sales, marketing,
ads,
fulfillment,
ops hiring
etc. I made a free
course um com
uh they can have by clicking down below
and I do that for one of two reasons.
One
I build trust. Two they consider working
with me. Okay. So I can put this in
and then Chad GBT will make me a little
bit uh better copy. Okay. So let's just
say I take this copy. Let's say it's
perfect, right? It's not, but let's just
say it's perfect. I could go to
Zebracat, put this here. Okay. Say that
I want this for ads. I want it about 60
seconds. I'll put that in. And then it
will generate a script. All right. So
let's say this generates a script. So
give it a second. Then you come here and
you pick what script. We'll just go
script one for, you know, speed
purposes.
Pick that. I want a realistic visual
style. We go to next step. We pick a
character, right? So, you can try to
edit this and stuff like that. You could
create your own character. Um like this.
I I think this is one of our one of our
clients that we try that for. But it
doesn't really matter. I've seen this
work. So, even though this looks kind of
ugly, I'm telling you, this stuff works.
It's crazy. Like, I have some of these
ads like absolutely crush. Okay. So,
this video is being generated and it's
really simple. I'm going to show you how
easy it is as soon as this is done. The
next one is Hey Gen. So, while we're
waiting on that, we'll go to Hey Gunen.
So, let's say we go here and I want to
create a video and I'll just say um
landscape, right? Cuz most ads are being
ran in landscape view. We'll put the
script here
and we will uh
replace avatar. Okay. I could either add
myself or I could use let's say this
guy, right? Okay. So, this guy looks a
little bit more like me. Um, and then I
just click generate. Okay. And we'll
just say practice video
MP3. Okay. The resolution. And then
yeah, you can do like, you know, frames
per second. Turn off the watermark.
Click submit. So now we have two videos
uh being worked on. And you can see
right here, this video is about 5%
ready.
This one is about 62%. So, it's that
simple to make a video. You could use
that with AI. You don't even have to do
anything. Like, you could literally sit
your ass here and run an ad. Now, some
of the ads are ugly. I'll show you like
one of the ads, but it's crazy how well
some of these convert. Okay, so let me
show you one of the ads that's actually
running for us. So, we'll go to Okay, so
you guys can see it. Like, this is how
it looks. And it's like basically just
images with uh text over it. And it just
goes in and out. And it has a AI voice.
It's really not that great, but the cool
thing is it works, right? End of the
day, it's like how much money I spend,
how much money I make. Okay, so these
are two things that you could try. Once
these download, you're good to go and
you can uh start running them as ads.
Okay, so that's number one. Okay, number
two is then come up with a copy with
Chat GBT. So, I already showed you guys
that. Number three is then if you're
going to start running these ads, you
need to actually make a funnel. Okay, so
we use elite 360.io. If you guys want an
account, you get a 7-day free trial. I
think it's 14 days. You could go to
elite360.io.
Okay. Now, once you come in here, I'm
just going to show you a normal funnel.
Now, most funnels have three pages. You
have an opt-in page where you get their
name, email, phone number. You have a
VSSL page, which has a video. And then
you have somewhere they can book a call.
I'll show what that looks like. And then
you have a thank you page, which is
like, "Hey, thanks for booking the call.
Here's how you get ready." So, if I
click on this here and I want to edit
this, okay, this is a software I use.
You can use whatever you want, but this
is what I use. The biggest thing is the
headline. So these words up here and
then down here we can get their name,
email and phone number. Why? So if they
opt in, I can now email them. I can text
them. I can call them. I can send
voicemails. I can now send retargeting
ads. I can create lookalike audiences
and lists. Like there's all kinds of
stuff you can do. So let's say they opt
in. Okay? So they I run the ad, they opt
in, then they come to this page and they
see the VSSL. So like let's say you came
to one of my pages. This is a old VSSL.
I couldn't find my new one, but here's
how I can help. here's a video and then
they book a consultation. Then on this
consultation, right, they fill this out
and they book a time. And then once they
book a time, they're going to go to this
page right here. So this thank you page.
And it's like, "Thanks for scheduled
your call. Here's a video that preps
them for the call, etc., etc." And you
need to learn how to do these things.
Like, if you're not going to learn how
to do it, you're going to have to pay
someone. And I highly recommend learning
it because yes, I have people on my team
who do this for me now, but I know how
it works, right? So I know if I'm
getting screwed over. I know if like
what they're telling me is incorrect. I
know if it's [Â __Â ] right? So, I
could come in here and you see like you
got to learn how to use this thing. This
is just part of business, especially
online. If you don't know how to do this
stuff, I just think it really hurts you
in the end. So, now we have our funnel.
So, the last thing we need is our emails
and text setup, right? And so, inside
Elite 360, I'm just showing you the
software we use. Happy to use it. Uh, if
you want to use something else, you
know, knock yourself out. But they
submit on one of those pages and then we
tell, hey, wait a minute. Okay. um set
contact DND is off right make sure like
you know we can message them give our
setter a notification um you know add to
this workflow okay so workflow is like
automated emails okay then it's like all
right give them this uh contact lead
give them this email okay if we want to
edit the email you come in here and you
can edit what the email says here's a
text message if you want to edit what
the text message says you can do that
right like there's a lot of stuff you
can do to make sure that your leads are
being marketed to appropriately and all
this stuff matters because when you're
spending money, you can't afford to
waste the leads. Like, you have to get
these leads to convert, right? So, this
is the highest level of scaling a
business. Most people, you don't have to
start here, but this is how you could
work up to it. All we have to do now is
run ads. So, what you're going to want
to do is you're going to come over to
the ads manager. This is what it looks
like. Let me show you guys real quick.
When it comes to running your ads,
you're going to run it straight to the
DMs. So, they'll click on the ad,
they'll go to the DM, or they're going
to click on the ad and go to a page. I'm
going to show you both ways to do it.
So, I run most of my ads, and what made
me really successful is running ads to
the DMs because when you run to the DM,
not only can they go to your website,
but they can also have a conversation
with you, and that's what made me really
successful. Still to this day, that
works really well for me. So, when
you're writing DMs, you can do
engagement, leads, or sales. I've tested
all of them. Leads, for whatever reason,
seems to give me the best cost per
message. So, that's the one I'll do. So,
I'll go ahead and click that. You can do
whatever you want, but I've spent $30
million on ads, so, you know, knock
yourself out. Um, here I will choose
adset budget. Adset budget just means
like each adset will get a similar
amount of spend. I don't like CBO. I
think CBO is some people do, but I'm
just not a huge fan of it. CBO just
means like it is going to choose which
adsets it goes to. When you're running
your ads set, what you're going to want
to come up with is first we want to run
this to Instagram. So, this is for the
DMs. You're going to want to click on
this. You go down to single and you're
going to want to choose Instagram
picture here. You want to choose the
page you want to run it to. Okay. And
you in terms of budget, let's say you
want to use an amount of money that you
could spend and lose it and not worry.
So let's say it's 3,000. Do 3,000* 30.
It's 100 bucks per day. And then
depending on how much money you have, I
like to distribute that among different
adsets. The reason being is that I'd
rather have 10 adsets, right? So 10
different people I'm targeting or
audiences or interests, whatever you
want to call it, versus one big ad set
where I throw a big dart, right? So it's
like I want 10 small darts versus one
big dart. So if I had 100 bucks, I'd
probably do, you know, $10 to $20 adsets
like this and then I would distribute
that 10 adsets, 10 bucks, that's 100
bucks a day. Something like that. Okay.
So when I come down here, United States,
uh minimum age, I sometimes will raise
it to 22. It's up to you. You just got
to, you know, think if a 18-year-old is
actually going to buy your uh language
will be English.
And then in terms of demographics, I
just want to choose, you know, something
they like. So let's say, okay, I want to
do entrepreneurship. The goal will be is
that you're looking for about 1 to 2
million people here. This is way too
big. So I need to narrow this down or
add something. So it's like they like
entrepreneurship and they also are an
owner and a CEO. Something like that.
Okay. And you guys can see this is too
small. Like it just really got super
small. Okay, but the goal is like we're
looking for one to two million. Why?
Because it's big enough that you're not
going to run through the audience really
fast, but small enough that it's usually
pretty targeted. You want to mix. Okay,
you don't want it so small that you know
it cost you a million dollars to show it
to that person. But you don't want it so
big that it's really cheap, but you're
just showing it to a ton of people that
are not actually your demographic. Okay?
Because we're doing Instagram here. Just
leave this alone. If you really want to
get the most bang for your buck, you can
usually just run it to the feeds. That's
where most people click on ads. Uh but,
you know, some people disagree with
that. I usually will just run to the
feeds, but it's completely up to you.
Okay. Um that's pretty much all you're
doing here. You're just choosing age,
country, um targeting, and then you're
going to run the actual ad. Okay. So,
once we come over here to the ad, you're
going to connect it to your Facebook
page, your Instagram account. You'll set
up the creative. So, we'll just do an
image to make this really easy. I'm
going to go through this pretty quick.
Okay. You set up the creative right
there. And then you're going to come
down here and create a form. So, the way
I set up my forms is they're set up like
this. It'll say, "Hey, you know, hey
Tanner, please answer a few questions so
we know where to send it." This right
here in parenthesis lets my team know
which adset it's from. That's really
important because if we're getting bad
quality, we want to know where to turn
it off from. In terms of questions,
we'll ask for their name, their email,
and their phone number. Why? So, we can
text and call them and email them,
right? So, Elite 360 that you guys have
seen, we can put that data, we can
scrape it through Zapier and put that
data inside here. Okay? So, that becomes
really, really helpful because, you
know, we text, email, and call them. And
then after we have gotten their info,
we're going to have a complet message
sending them where we want. Now, because
we already got their email and phone
number and so forth, we don't need to
send them to an opt-in page. page when
you run straight to page you will and
I'm going to show you that in a second
but because we already did that after
that where I'm sending them is my school
group okay so they come to school group
they get information and then we can
also text and email them etc etc okay so
that's how that is set up it's really
that simple right it's not hard it's not
complex this isn't complicated that's
how you're going to set up a DM campaign
now if you're wanting to set up a
straight to page campaign it's going to
look pretty similar
I'll show show you what that looks like.
But you're going to do the same thing,
but I would use a sales objective.
Again, you can use whatever you want.
That's what I've seen work the best. So
that's what I'm going to use. And then
when we come in here, same thing. Do
adset budget. Go to next. Then when we
are choosing this, we'll do website. So
it's going to, you know, we're going to
optimize to send to the website. You'll
do all the same stuff like the budget,
the targeting, etc. The only thing that
you may want to look at is where you
send
the ads to. So, for example, you could
come in here and you're like, "Hey, I
only want to send it to the feeds." Now,
the feeds are going to cost the most,
but that's where most people click on
the ad. So, what I would do to start is
like send it everywhere and then if you
want to try to optimize, you can try
different things and over time you'll
see I run a lot of my stuff to the
feeds, but it's completely up to you and
it depends on the person. And honestly,
a lot of it depends on the offer. This
is actually interesting right here,
block list. Um, so you can put in words
in there where people like talk about
you and obviously like one of them that
we get is scammers. Then when you come
to the ad, it's the exact same thing.
The only difference is you're going to
put a link to the page you want to go
to. So for example, this right here is
not the link I would send them because
this is straight to the VSSL. Where I
would send them is this page where you
can get their name, email, phone number.
Because they click on the ad, they're
going to go straight to that page. Why
do you want to send them to an opt-in
page? So you can get their information,
start texting them, calling them,
emailing them, uh make custom audience
lists, uh retargeting them, etc., etc.,
right? like you you want multiple
opportunities to try to get someone to
buy your products. You don't just want
it to be a one and done. So, you'll put
that link in here and then you're pretty
much done. Publish it, right? So, the
trade-off would be if you want to run DM
ads, it's more work, but you get a
better follow-up process. Like, you have
more chances to try to get those
individuals to book a call because they
could book a call through your DM or
they could book a call by going to your
website. With this, there's it's easier,
there's less follow-up, but it puts more
pressure on your marketing. So for most
beginners, I say start with DMs and then
you can move straight to page. In a
perfect world, which would be better,
apples to apples, straight to page. Why?
Because you could scale it easier
without as much staff, without as much
work, etc. Okay, once you have this set
up though, we now done everything we can
do for leads. And so these are the
numbers you're going to want to look
for. If you're in a BC offer, let's just
say fitness for example, okay, $10
leads, $100 to $150 applications or book
calls, and then a 25% c. So what that
means is you get a customer for five
grand. You don't want to spend more than
12250 to acquire that customer, right?
Because you need some ROI for profit to
pay your team to scale more ads, etc.
For B2B, it basically doubles, right?
So, you get $20 leads, $200 to $300
apps, and then still 25% of CA. So, if I
spend $100,000 in a month, the goal
should be I make about $400,000, right?
You want usually a 4x ROI. Now, you
could do a little bit less, but at
scale, it gets real tough to run your
company that way. for most of you if
you're just starting out. Not a big deal
right now, but it's just good to know.
Okay, so now that we have leads, we need
to make sure that we close them over the
phone. So, here's how. So, I'm going to
take you guys through my closer
framework. And it's really, really
straightforward. It's very logical. So,
when you start a call, you want to start
with the intro or preframe. So, it could
sound like, "Hey, so Tanner, the point
of the call today is to understand what
your goal is, what you're showing with,
what you've tried before. If at the end
of the call, you feel what we do is
great fit, let's do it. If not, that's
fine, too. My goal is honestly to just
help you make a good decision. So that's
what I'm trying to do. Okay. The next
thing is then the discovery or overview,
okay, or questions. All right. So what's
the goal? How much do you want to make?
This is for a business offer, right? So
I do business consulting, right? So
these are the questions I would ask.
There's not specific questions to ask.
The the thing you need to do is ask the
questions you need to know to give them
goodbye. So let's just say a friend came
to me and said, "Hey, I I have cancer."
Well, what do you think I should do?
Well, I got to know stuff like, have you
gone to a doctor? How far along is it?
What stage is it? What kind of cancer is
it? Have you gotten professional
opinions? How much money do you have? Do
you have insurance? Like, I need to ask
these questions so I can give good
advice. So, same thing here. So, when
I'm asking someone about their business,
I'll say, "What's your goal? What are
you struggling with? What have you
tried? You ever had a coach? Have you
ran ads? Do you have experience in
sales?" Right? That matters. Uh, is your
spouse supportive? Okay. Why now? Why
today? Like, why do you even care? Like,
do you have any urgency to even move
forward, right? to create urgency. How
much money have you lost out on by not
taking action? I also make an emotional
pain. So, it's like they'll move forward
at the end of the call. Okay. If they're
more experienced, I'll say, you know,
what's your sales process like? How do
you currently get clients? Uh how does
your fulfillment work? You know, if I
paid you, what money would it look like?
Why are you so busy and still broke?
Right? So, I'm asked these types of
questions to either create emotional
pain and create urgency and scarcity or
to understand their situation. Once I
understand their situation, I just point
it out and I say, "Look, so it sounds
like the biggest thing for you is this
and this." So, if we can figure out a
way where you're 100% confident we can
deliver on that, are you in? Yes. Okay.
Then we move into what are called the
three pillars. Okay. Now, I've done
other trainings on this on my YouTube.
In short, what the three pillars are is
the top three things you do. So, usually
when a business owner comes to me to
make this simple, they have offer
issues. They don't know what to sell or
they're selling it incorrectly. They
have a lead issue. Okay? and then they
don't know who to hire. So what I do is
I say okay based on that the biggest
three things I can help you with is your
offer lead generation and then who to
hire. Right? So I'll say pillar number
one is what I call offer creation. Most
people do this and this is why it
doesn't work. What I do is this and this
is why it does work. You need to create
polarity. This is what most people do.
Stupid. This is what I do. It's amazing.
And then it makes it very easy for
people to go oh that's why I should hire
you. If you just say, "Here's what we do
and it's the best." Every other
salesperson they've talked to says the
exact same. It's not going to work. So,
you need to create here's what they do.
They is your competitors, everyone else.
And here's what I do. Now, if I go down
to pillar number two, it's the same
thing. Most companies, I'll walk you
through it. So, pillar number two, I'll
say I call it the faucet system. Okay?
So, what most companies do is they tell
you to do one thing to run an automated
webinar. nails can work, but sometimes
you're crossing your fingers and if it
doesn't work, you're pretty much screwed
because you have to keep redoing it over
and over again. You'll be 20 $30,000
deep in ad spend and you know uh cost of
coaches and you know even if they do opt
in, you only get 30% open rates on
emails. So what we do is something
called conversion conversations which
increases application rates by over 57%
compared to other systems. What's unique
about this is it's a follow-up system of
text, emails, voice messages,
retargeting ads, DMs, voicemail drops,
you name it. And so we set it up so that
you're hitting potential customers from
all sides and squeezing out every last
drop of juice. So even just hearing that
you guys are like, "Oh, that sounds
better. You're definitely thinking
that." That's what you have to come up
with. Okay. And then the final one is
who you should hire. So what I tell
people is look, you want to hire off
three things. Experience, specificity,
and attention. I have done 100 million
in sales. I've built multiple different
companies, B TOC, B2B. Like so no matter
what you're doing, I can help you do it.
And then the last thing is attention,
right? So if you have Bill Gates for
five minutes or Bill Gates team for five
hours, who would you rather hire? Bill
Gates team, right? Because I'll tell
like, you know, hypothetically, it's
like, do I get to work with Tanner? No.
But my team has been trained on
everything I've done. Then you do a
brief overview of the program. So people
don't care what they're getting in the
program. They just need like a
fiveminute explanation so they feel
comfortable. So I'll say, "Hey, you come
in, you get one-on-one support, daily
office hours, daily business reviews,
Facebook group, a portal, scripts,
content, etc." Right? Makes sense. Like
I'm helping you build your business.
Like no. and they're like, "Oh, it makes
sense." And they feel comfortable. Then
I will create certainty. You want to do
this before you price drop. So I'll say,
"Cool. Now that you've heard everything,
do you, you know, how do you think this
is? Do you think it's a fit?" They'll do
one of two things. They'll say, "Oh my
gosh, this is amazing. I can't wait to
sign up." That's high certainty. The
other way they'll say is, "Yeah, it
sounds pretty good." Low certainty. So
you got to go, "Oh, you don't really
sound so sure." Like, why is that? The
reason is you want certainty as high as
humanly possible because as soon as you
drop the price, you lose control of the
frame. Like they are now in control. And
if it's a high price, they're like, "Oh,
like I don't know. It's not really worth
it, and I don't even really like it."
So, you want to get them to really say
they like it. So, when you drop the
price, they'll still commit. Okay? Now,
once you drop the price, I usually just
say, "Hey, it's $10,000 or $16,000 or
$100,000, whatever I'm selling for 4
months." And I shut up. Now, you're
going to get four objections. Okay? You
get price, spouse, I need to think about
it, and belief. I'm going to walk you
guys through those. Okay? If you learn
these four objections, you will be super
rich. It's always the same. four
objections. You're not going to get
anything different because if you've
done it correctly, these people have
been pre-qualified. We're going to go
into price. This is the most common. So,
here's how it's going to sound. You guys
can follow me on the screen. Hey, so the
price of the program is 10,000. They're
going to object. Oh, it's too much,
Tanner. I say, totally get it. No
problem. Agree. You never like want to
argue with them. Agree. Is there
anything else besides the price that
would stop you from moving forward today
or is it just the price? Just the price.
Got it. Okay. So, that's a tie down. And
they say just the price. So, we're going
to go for a double time. Got it. So, if
we're able to figure out the price
you're in, yes, perfect. So, the best
way for me to help is to figure out
what's your cash on hand. Checking,
savings, credit cards. What do you have
today that you could spend? I'm not
saying you have to spend all it, but I
need to kind of know your financial
situation.
They have to tell you. If someone says,
"Well, I don't know." It's like, "Yes,
you do." Like, they know. Everybody
knows. So, so you just got to be like,
"Yeah, dude. Like, I mean, what do you
make in a month on average? What do you
spend?" That's what I'm asking. Get them
to tell you. If they don't tell you, you
can't help someone. Think about this
way. If someone says they can't afford
it and you know how much money is in
their bank account, then you know if
they can afford it. There's a difference
between they can afford it and they
don't want to pay for it. It's two
different things. So, we got to figure
out if they can afford it. Now, once I
know their cash on hand, let's say I'm
selling the program for 10,000. Uh let's
say they're, you know, a great person,
they want help, but they're in a really
bad situation. You should have a lowest
number that you're willing to sell it
for. Why? This is a service. You're
selling information. There is no cost of
goods. So, you can move the price if you
need to. So, for example, if someone uh
only has, let's say they go, Ten, I only
have 2500 bucks. At that point, I can
either sell them for 2500 or I can just
lose the deal. So, that's why I think
you should have a lowest number you're
willing to sell for, right? You can
still pay your team, still make a little
profit, etc., but it then lets you make
more money and because you're spending
money on ads, you can use that money
that you get from these quote unquote
deals, put it back into ads, and then
get the better deals. Okay? So, if they
have the full price, take it. But let's
say hypothetically they go, I only have
2500. Let's say that's the lowest I'm
willing to go. If they have less than
2500, I just wrap the call up. But if
they're like, "Yeah, I only have 2500.
I'm do I wouldn't do anything. I just
don't have 10 grand." So here's what it
sound like. I go, "Well, look, so
typically the price of the program is 10
grand and I don't have I don't think
that's a realistic option for you to do
cuz you don't have it. So I'm down to
work something out for you that's
customized, but before I do, I just want
to make sure that you can move forward
today." And they're like, "Well, well,
like what's it going to be?" It's like,
"Don't worry about that. Like I'll make
it work. I just want to make sure you
can move forward." Get the commitment
before you drop the price. Do never drop
the price before you get a commitment.
Because as soon as you drop the price,
if you haven't gotten a commitment, they
go, "Oh, cool. Sounds great. Let me
think about it." It's like, "No, no, no.
The price is 10K. If you're going to get
it for cheaper, you got to move forward
right now." Right? If they're not going
to do that, don't give them a discount.
And you'll be surprised at how often
they'll come in and they'll go, "Well,
what is it?" I go, "Well, look, I don't
think you should spend all of it, but I
do think you should do something." So,
you say you had 2500. Let's go ahead and
put a,000 down today and we'll do the
rest of the 1,500 over two months. How's
that sound? Right? Does that sound sound
fair enough? And they will come in.
That's how you handle price. Okay. So
people a lot of times are like how do I
handle this objection? The they will say
that it's a value issue. Yeah.
Sometimes. So if it's a value issue, you
need to go back to the three pillars and
figure out like why don't they think
this is valuable? But as long as they
think it's valuable and it's actually a
cash flow issue, which it usually is if
people are being honest, this is the
problem. It's like they don't have the
cash. And so then you need to work
through this formula. Okay. Next one is
spouse. So there's three parts to this.
So if I say, "Hey, the price of the
program is 10,000." They say, "Oh, I got
to ask my wife." I first say, "What are
you going to do?" If they say, "No." 20%
of the time they'll say, "I'll do it
anyway." So I'm like, "Carol, let's
start." That that's very rare. Usually
they'll say, "Well, then I couldn't move
forward. So let me go to B." So I say,
"Price of 10K. I got to ask my wife,
what are you going to do if they what if
they say no, I can't do it." Okay. What
were the biggest objection to me? And
they'll usually say, "It's price." I'm
like, "Oh, got it." So then I go back up
here to price for number four and I say,
"Got it. So, if we're able to figure out
the price you're in, it's not that it's
your wife has an issue. You just know
that she'll have an issue with the
price, right? Yeah. Boom. You could
close it. Every once in a while, they'll
still say, "Yeah, I appreciate you doing
that, but I still can't do it. I got to
talk to my wife." So, then you go to C,
which is past agreements. Past
agreements means stuff they already
know. So, I said, "Cool. So, does your
spouse or your wife know like that this
is important to you, that you're
struggling, you know, and if the roles
are reversed, would they you support
them?" Okay, cool. Cuz the thing is
here, you're not asking for permission,
only support. Because if you ask and
they say no, you don't do it and two
years later you're still poor, you're
going to resent them, right? So that's
when things start to go downhill because
you didn't own your goals. So you tell
them that I don't I'm not going to do
this. So you tell them that if I don't
do this for me, I'm going to resent you.
So I'm not going to complain about what
I commit to. I'm going to go all in. I'm
not asking for permission. I'm just
asking for support. Sound fair enough?
And what will happen is sometimes it'll
close. Usually most of the calls it goes
to B and it stops, right? What are you
going to do? What if they say no? I
can't do it. What their biggest
objection be? Price. Boom. Go to price.
Close. If they still after C say no,
then I go to a delayed payment. So I go,
well look, right, I definitely want you
to talk to your wife cuz you're going to
start losing rapport after you push
three times. Stop. Cuz you'll start
breaking rapport and there's really no
benefit. You're not going to get the
deal. And then they hate you and they'll
talk about you. Don't do it. So at that
point, I'll say, "Cool. So let me ask
you this. Are you 51% yes or 51% no?"
They're like, "Well, I'm 51% yes." I'm
like, "Cool. So let's do this. I'm going
to go ahead and have you put down a a
small deposit. You go back to your wife
and if she says she doesn't want you to
be richer and more successful and all
these things. She says that you just
come back to me and I'll rip it up. I'll
rip up the agreement and give you a
refund. Sound fair enough? Like that's
what I'll say. And one of two things
will happen. Either A, they'll come
through or B they'll say I'm still not
going to do it. Okay, cool. How much
time you need to talk to your wife? Like
what time could you be done by tomorrow?
10. Okay, so by 10 tomorrow if you don't
text me and you come in then the deal's
off. Sound good? Cool. And what happens
then is you've worked all the way
through the deal. You've worked through
all the objections and then they're
either going to come in tomorrow or you
don't have to waste your time following
up, right? You don't have to be texting
them and all this stuff. A lot of sales
reps following up is good, but they
follow up for people are never going to
close. Okay? So, I give them a deadline
because once I've pushed three times, if
you keep pushing, you're just going to
piss people off. Three times is the
limit. Okay? That's probably the second
most common. Then we have uh time or
stall, like I need to think about it.
Okay? So, I'd say the price of the
program is 10,000. Like, I need to think
about it. Most people will say, "What do
you need to think about?" I do it a
little different. Okay. So, what I say
is, "Well, do you know what decay
means?" It comes from the Latin word
uh cadair, which means to cut off. So,
are we cutting off the future of your
dreams or your passive in action? Cuz
indecision is still a decision. If
you're cool, I can walk you through
three things, and based on those three
things, you'll actually know what to do.
Sound fair? Yeah. Cool. Do you think
you're more or less likely to hit your
goal working with us? More likely. Okay.
Do you believe we're going to deliver
what is promised? Yeah. Okay. Do you
have access to funds? Yeah, they usually
will say yes to all these. So, it's
like, okay, so based off that, you
actually have all the information you
need to make a decision. Okay, those are
the only three thing three things you
need to know. You're not going to find
any more information that's going to
make you feel more comfortable cuz this
is a quote unquote risk. Like, you have
to go to get to second base. You have to
take your foot off first. So, I'd
encourage you to go ahead and make the
decision because you said yes to those
answers. Sound fair enough? If they
still say no, you go delayed payment.
You don't get this that often because if
they're sure, they're not going to say
they need to think about it. Like if
they're super sure and you raise
certainty really high, they don't need
to think about it. Okay, last one's
belief. Belief is they're scared. So
it's like, Tanner, this sounds good. I
have the money. I can do it. I'm just I
just got to I don't know. I don't know.
So I'll just say, well, what is the
worst thing that you could possibly
imagine happening? They're like, well,
it doesn't work. I'm like, cool. So
let's walk through that. Okay. So you
can either sign up, get results, and
life's great. You can do it and it
doesn't work and you get your money back
if you have a performance guarantee.
Performance guarantee means they have to
do XYZ stipulations to get the refund.
You cannot give a money back guarantee
unless it's a product. Services are
different because they have to do work
to get the result. So if you have a
performance guarantee, just pick stuff
that you know if they do they'll get the
result. So there is no way you'll ever
give a refund because if they do these
things they're going to get the result.
The only time people don't get results
is when they don't do it. Okay. And then
the last one is you do nothing and stay
stuck. Okay. So then I'll say so all
these options are risk-f free. the So,
are you gonna pick the option that's
going to give you the potential to go
where you want to go or are you just
going to pick the option that guarantees
you stay stuck, right? Because if you
sign and get results and you're happy,
who cares? If you do it and it doesn't
work, you get the refund, right? You do
nothing, stay stuck. So, it's like
they're all risk- free. There is no
risk. So, all you do is you take away
their risk. Once you've done that, you
will close everybody that those are the
only four things you need to actually
close. It's that simple. Okay. So once
we've actually closed, last but not
least, what we have to do is we need to
actually fulfill. Okay, so when someone
closes for my company, here's what we
actually do. So the first thing we do is
we want to make this process as simple
as possible. So the sales rep closes and
we send them this link. So it's like,
make sure you sign the agreements, make
sure to join the groups. We also have a
private WhatsApp group in case we need
to send massive messages to hundreds of
our clients, right? They also fill out
an intake form which is really helpful
because when they come on board we know
their full situation so the coach
actually knows exactly how to help them
and we don't have to waste time on
calls. Okay. And then they give us their
information so we can send them you know
gifts or whatever. You want to have a
client check-in form. So this is how one
looks. So we have these automated and
every single week these go out. And the
reason they go out is because it lets us
know where the clients are at, right?
And so the clients who are filling this
out, they're the clients we want to
spend most of the time on. It's the 8020
rule. The clients who are filling this
out care the most. They're putting in
the work. They put in the effort. And so
we send this out automated. Not every
client fills it out. We're not going to
be on there asked to do it, but this
helps us know where to spend our time
and which clients are struggling.
They're in the yellow and then they're
in red, etc., etc. The next thing is you
also want to have somewhere where all
your coms are. So this is base camp is
what we use. This is really cool. So
this is our client. And then all their
docs and files one place, sales scripts,
you know, ads, ads tracker, metric
sheet, etc. This is their coaching
channel, right? This is their technical
support channel. This is their setter
and closure channel. And then this is
their ad support. So everything's in one
place, but if anyone needs to go find
something out, they can just go in the
different channels, grab any documents.
It's all in one spot. And that just
makes it so easy when you're scaling a
business. I used to do stuff in Facebook
Messenger. They DM us there and then
we'd have a Facebook group and we'd post
documents in there and then we'd have
separate calls and like it was just a
nightmare, right? And it's like
something I really regret. Having your
stuff in one place is super super
important. And then finally, you want to
have your automations in one place for
these clients. When we onboard a client,
we'll add these tags and these tags will
send out automated emails, automated
texts. It'll put them in certain
workflows. It'll also make sure they
don't get certain emails and texts for
our leads because they're now a client.
So, this is how I did $115 million in
sales and built a massive business. If
you want to see me working onetoone with
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