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Hello everybody.

How are you? How are you?

So, we had a great stay. It was an amazing period of time. Uh, President

Xi's an incredible guy. Got along, made a lot of great trade deals, including over 200 planes for Boeing with a promise of 750 planes, which will be by

far the largest order ever if they do a good job with the 200, which I'm sure they will. And that's General Electric,

they will. And that's General Electric, also the engines. So they're buying General Electric. So it's approximately

General Electric. So it's approximately 400 450 engines and 200 planes and a promise of up to 750 if they do a good

job. Uh we had an amazing time. It was a

job. Uh we had an amazing time. It was a very historic Oh, look who we have.

Hello David. That was a very historic couple of days I think.

Sir, I know there will be a lot of questions around the China trip which is first on Iran. Have you rejected the latest proposal from Iran or where does that stand?

Well, I look at it and if I don't like the first sentence, I just throw it away. Uh what was the first sentence? An

away. Uh what was the first sentence? An

unacceptable sentence.

They fully agreed no nuclear and if they have any nuclear of any form, I don't read the rest of the 20 years is not enough for you. It's got to be a

No, 20 years is enough. But the level of guarantee from them is in other words, it's got to be a real 20 years, not a big get all the fuel out and no more

production.

We have to get everything, but uh we're not even talking about call the nuclear dust came up with a term which seems to have got on. I'm talking about cuz they would not remove the uh they said that they can't remove it because they don't

have the technology to remove it.

They don't have the type of tractors.

They say the only one, they told me directly. They said the only one that

directly. They said the only one that can remove it is China or the US. We're

the only ones with the equipment. They

said, "You were right. It is a complete obliteration." With that being said, I

obliteration." With that being said, I want to get it. Uh, and they agreed to it, but then they took it back, but they'll agree to it eventually.

Can I ask you about Taiwan? What did

President Xi say to you about Taiwan?

And what did President Xi say to you about Taiwan? And are you still going to

about Taiwan? And are you still going to approve the the arm sales?

So, President Xai talks a lot about Taiwan.

Uh he thinks they cannot have anything to do with uh what they're doing. I

mean, he's, you know, against very much what they're doing. Talking about

Taiwan, we're talking about and I think we have a very good understanding with both. uh on Taiwan.

He does not want to see a fight for independence because that would be a very strong confrontation and I I heard him out.

No, I didn't make I didn't make a comment on it. I heard him out. I have a lot of respect for him on Iran. It's

very interesting. He feels strongly they can't have a nuclear weapon. He said

that very strongly they cannot have a nuclear weapon and he wants them to open up the trade. But as he said, they closed it and then you closed them with

a smile. That's true. We we control the

a smile. That's true. We we control the straight and they've done no business.

Literally, they've done no business in the last 2 and 1/2 weeks, which is approximately $500 million a day. So, we

have uh we're doing very well on all fronts.

Before we leave, Mr. Um, President Xi said that there was a risk of conflict with the US over Taiwan. What's your response to that?

Taiwan. What's your response to that?

I don't think there's a conflict other than we don't need their their straight.

We don't need Taiwan. Mr. Mr. President Xed said there

Taiwan. Mr. Mr. President Xed said there was a risk of conflict with the US over Taiwan.

No, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think we're going to be I think

so. I think we're going to be I think we'll be fine. He doesn't want to see He doesn't want to see a war. uh and you have two things and you have the Iranian

situation with that I think we agree almost entirely other than he's a buyer and we're not we don't need it and on Taiwan he doesn't want to see a movement for independence he says look you know

we've had it for thousands of years and then at a certain period of time it left that we were going to get it back they had the Korean war a lot of things

happened and all this but uh no Taiwan he feels very strongly I made no commitment either way. See what happens.

What about the arm sales to Taiwan?

Uh I'll make a determination over the next fairly short period.

Well, you're not necessarily going to go ahead. It was your proposal.

ahead. It was your proposal.

Make a determination. I'm going to say I have to speak to the person that right now, as you know, you know who he is that's running Taiwan. Mr. President,

did President Xi make any firm commitment to put pressure on the Iranians to reopen the straightfor? Uh,

I'm not asking for any favors cuz when you ask for favors, you have to do favors in return. We don't need favors.

We wiped out their armed forces essentially. Uh, we may have to do a

essentially. Uh, we may have to do a little cleanup work because we had a little monthong uh ceasefire, I guess you'd call it, but we have a blockade

that's so effective. That's why we did the ceasefire. We really did the

the ceasefire. We really did the ceasefire at the request of other nations. I wouldn't have really been in

nations. I wouldn't have really been in favor of it, but we did it as a favor to Pakistan who are terrific people, the field marshall and the uh prime

minister, but uh no, I mean, President Xi and I agree on many things and we agree very much on trade. We're going to be doing a lot of trading. Our farmers

are going to be taking it. I mean, our farmers are going to be very happy with the deal we made. Does he really think that he will put pressure that he will try and get him to?

Ask him to put pressure because I don't I don't need favors. I think he will. I

think automatically he'd like to see it opened up. He gets about 40% of his

opened up. He gets about 40% of his energy or his oil from that, you know, from the straight. We get none. We get

none. We don't need it. Mr. President,

on social, you said that uh President made a reference to the decline of the LS. We didn't hear him say that. Maybe

LS. We didn't hear him say that. Maybe

it was something he said in Christ. So

what was it first of all that he said that prompted him? He made a statement.

It might not have been from him. It was

somebody but they talked about the decline. But he said today and he said

decline. But he said today and he said it very publicly. He said the US was declining for the last four years. And

he said what President Trump has done in the last 15 16 months has been virtually a miracle. He said we have the hottest

a miracle. He said we have the hottest he said we have the hottest country anywhere in the world. But he said it was a declining country under Joe Biden.

He said we had a declining a seriously declining country which we did with people pouring in from all over the world from prisons and everything else.

He said, "What President Trump has done has been a virtual miracle. It's the

hottest country anywhere in the world."

And it is. Yeah.

On a different subject on Cuba, there's reporting that um Raul Castro could be indicted by the DOJ, I believe. What

does that mean?

I don't want to comment on that. I'll

let DOJ comment on it. But they need help as you know. And uh you talk about a declining country. They are really a nation or a country in decline. So,

we're going to see. We have a lot to talk about on Cuba, but not maybe for today.

Tariffs.

Mr. President, did you agree with President Xi to um extend that year-long truce on tariffs?

We didn't discuss tariffs. I mean,

they're paying tariffs. They're paying

substantial tariffs, but we didn't discuss, you know, before I came along, it was the opposite. We didn't discuss tariffs.

Okay.

Wasn't brought up. Mr. President, you said in January to us that um you were going to bring up the expansion of their nuclear program. Uh obviously they've

nuclear program. Uh obviously they've got 600 weapons now by the Pentagon's estimate going to 1,500. Did that come up? Did you succeed in getting them into

up? Did you succeed in getting them into any form of arms control or the Remember we discussed? We're

we discussed? We're talking about China. China we we brought it the denuclearization. and I talk about it all the time with Russia and with China and it did come up. We did

discuss and what did you conclude?

I got a very positive response since the beginning. You know, we're going to be

beginning. You know, we're going to be together four times potentially this year. We have the G20 which he wants to

year. We have the G20 which he wants to come to which I'd like him to come to.

He's going to be in Miami. It's going to be in Dural. That is going to be I think very good much more important if he's there. And so you have the G20. We have

there. And so you have the G20. We have

one that he has, as you know, in November, right, in China. He's asked me to be there. I'm going to try and be there. And then we have another one on

there. And then we have another one on September, I guess, 26th or 24th where he's coming into the White House.

I'm trying to understand what it is that he committed to, if he committed anything.

Well, I don't want to say anybody committed, but we have a very good understanding.

Are you the concept of denuclearization?

Denuclearization or just a an extension?

A denuclearization. others building down and you bring Russia into it also but the concept of that is something would be very good about the um the political

prisoners in China did you bring up with President Xi the political prisoners in China are going to be released any progress uh I think he's giving very serious consideration to the pastor the pastor

is uh said he's giving very serious consideration what I discussed what about Jimmy It's a tougher one.

That's I did bring it up. It's a tougher one. For him, it's a tough one.

one. For him, it's a tough one.

What did he say about he said for him it's a very He told me I don't want to mislead anybody. He said Jimmy Li is a

mislead anybody. He said Jimmy Li is a tough one for him to do. You know, went through a lot and right or wrong, I went through a lot. So, uh he told me that

would be a tough one. He said he's going to strongly consider the best. Sir, can

I ask you two on technology? first um uh computer chips, advanced computer chips like the H200s that Jensen used. Did

that come up at all with it? Didn't come up, but uh as you know,

it? Didn't come up, but uh as you know, Jensen was there. He's an amazing guy and uh he would be inclined. You know,

they have much higher level than the H200, but the H200 is good. Uh China

needs it and so yeah, it came up. They

haven't bought it.

They haven't No, because they chose not to. They want to try and develop their

to. They want to try and develop their own. But it did come up and I think

own. But it did come up and I think something could happen on that.

Okay. And then on artificial inteller level, but the H200, it's a good it's a great chip.

And then on artificial intelligence, what is it that you want to get done?

Did you bring up?

We talked, you know, we're leading by a lot, but they're second and they're very strong. And we talked about possibly

strong. And we talked about possibly working together for guard rails.

We're not guard standard guardrails that we talk about all the time. uh AI is fantastic. So many things can happen in

fantastic. So many things can happen in terms of health and medicine and operations everything military and so many things can happen but uh it's also

got some drawbacks and we're talking about we probably will conversation about a lot of so biological nuclear

did you specifically discuss those risks you discussed I would say almost everything you could discuss except for a reduction of tariffs, right? On on Iran, Mr. President, just

right? On on Iran, Mr. President, just to be clear, I mean, what what's next?

Are you is is the threat of um the bombing starting again? How realistic is that?

I don't want to say that. I mean, I'd like to tell you I'd like to see uh on a certain hour, a certain day, the bombing is going to I don't want to say that. I

can only say that Iran I can say this with very very strong conviction. Iran will

never have a nuclear weapon. Not going

to happen.

I voted the used No chance. I voted the used of repeating

No chance. I voted the used of repeating the bombing. You You did it for 38 days.

the bombing. You You did it for 38 days.

No, we did. And you did not get the political changes in Iran.

No, I got I had a total military victory. But the fake news, guys like

victory. But the fake news, guys like you right incorrectly. You're a fake guy. Guys like you write about

guy. Guys like you write about incorrectly. We had a total military

incorrectly. We had a total military victory. We knocked out in their entire

victory. We knocked out in their entire navy. We knocked out their entire air

navy. We knocked out their entire air force. We knocked out all of their

force. We knocked out all of their anti-aircraft weaponry. We knocked out

anti-aircraft weaponry. We knocked out all of their radar. We knocked out all of their leaders, number one, and then we knocked out all of their leaders in the second division. And we knocked out

numerous of their leaders in the third division. And they're very confused. Uh

division. And they're very confused. Uh

we've had a total victory except by people like you that don't write the truth. You know, you should write. I

truth. You know, you should write. I

actually think it's sort of treasonous what you write, but you and the New York Times and CNN, I would say, are the worst.

On another another editor that you want to write, and you're right, and you should be ashamed of another war.

I actually think it's treason when you write like they're doing well militarily and they have no navy, no air force, no anti- anything. By the way, we knocked

anti- anything. By the way, we knocked out 85% of their manufacturing for the missiles. We knocked out everything. Uh

missiles. We knocked out everything. Uh

we haven't knocked out other than one bridge and we did because they misbehaved, but we have bridges we could knock out. We could knock out their

knock out. We could knock out their bridges and their electrical capacity within two days we could knock out the whole thing. And then I read the New

whole thing. And then I read the New York Times and they they act like they're doing well. Everybody knows and that's why your subscribers are way down. You know, the Times subscribers

down. You know, the Times subscribers are way down because it's fake news.

discuss Ukraine way down way down.

Did you discuss Ukraine at all with President Xi and is there any movement on that?

I did.

We had we discussed well it's one that we'd like to see settled until last night. It was looking good but they took

night. It was looking good but they took a big hit last night.

Yeah.

So it's going to happen but it's a shame it's not 25,000 people died last month.

Yeah.

Admiral Cooper of SENCOM was asked yesterday about the strike on the girls school on the first day of the war.

Well, it's under investigation. You're

talking about the original is the only case of uh investigation at the moment.

It's a civilian casualty.

I think we have a couple of things under investigation, but that is that is under investigation.

Are you able to confirm yet that it was a US missile?

Who you with?

BBC for the radio.

Fake BBC. You mean the ones that put AI in my mouth? The ones that gave me that had me saying a statement that they now admit was not true? The ones that put

terrible words in my mouth and then had to admit that it was fake. The ones that are being sued now for $5 billion that don't know what to do. You're with BBC.

They're another fake outfit. Yeah.

About the deals in China. Did you get a deal on soybeans? You know, the farmers did. The farmers are going to be very

did. The farmers are going to be very happy and they're going to be buying billions of dollars of soybeans.

Well, we were you were talking about Britain, but um Kier Stalmer, the prime minister there, is in a lot of trouble.

I know you asked about this in trouble.

Well, he's in trouble for two reasons.

Energy and immigration. He's very bad on energy. He should open up the North Sea.

energy. He should open up the North Sea.

He's got a coal mine and he should open up oil in the North Sea. And he doesn't.

They have a tremendous value. It's, you

know, they buy their oil, a lot of it, from Norway. Norway gets it from the

from Norway. Norway gets it from the North Sea. Not as good an area as

North Sea. Not as good an area as Scotland that the UK has. So they're

paying Norway a fortune for oil that they take out of the North Sea.

Do you think Storm is going to survive as prime minister? A tough thing. Unless

he can straighten out immigration where he's weak. And uh if he doesn't start

he's weak. And uh if he doesn't start drilling, then stop with the windmills all over the place and are causing havoc. They're causing havoc. Most

havoc. They're causing havoc. Most

expensive form of energy. They kill the birds. They're unsightly. They're

birds. They're unsightly. They're

ruining the landscape. If he doesn't stop with the windmills, he's got to do energy. got he's got to open up the

energy. got he's got to open up the North Sea. You know, he's got one of the

North Sea. You know, he's got one of the greatest oil fines anywhere in the world and he's not using and I tell him that he's not using it.

Should he quit?

The oil companies call me every day.

Please, please, we want to go to New Orleans. He doesn't allow it to happen.

Orleans. He doesn't allow it to happen.

Should he quit? I I don't say that. He's

I think he's a nice man actually, but uh I mean I didn't like when he said we're going to send ships as soon as you're finished with the war. Soon. Well, we

sort of finished militarily pretty much, but we, you know, David, we are, we finished probably 70 75%.

We didn't finish every one of the things. We'll go back and finish them

things. We'll go back and finish them off.

And and and by the way, and more than that, you saw the reporting on the uh missile capability missile launchers that have remained accurate. No, it's it's New

remained accurate. No, it's it's New York Times fake news. Uh the missile launchers are probably 80% gone. The New

York Times said it's like we haven't we were hitting them like like uh piñatas.

Uh the missile launches are largely gone. The manufacturing of missiles is

gone. The manufacturing of missiles is about 80% 80 to 85% gone. And we know where the rest of it. So if we go in, we'll take that out very early.

Intelligence reports seem to indicate though that there are no intelligence reports. Not not for they weren't

reports. Not not for they weren't intelligence reports. They were New York

intelligence reports. They were New York Times fake news. Sir, would you consider lifting the sanctions on Chinese oil companies that buy Iranian oil?

Well, we talked about that and I'm going to make a decision over the next few days. We did talk about that. Do

days. We did talk about that. Do

do you think she feels felt stronger um in his dealings with you than he did the last time that you had a relationship last time until co came along? You know,

I blamed them for that. I said it was Wuhan and it was I was right. And you

know, look, that was a strain on everybody co and uh so I you know it affected our relationship at the time but we always had a great relationship

uh before that and after that and now it's as strong as ever. I mean I went over to where he lives which is something that rarely happens to be there. I don't know.

there. I don't know.

Yeah, it was beautiful.

Amazing. I mean people have never seen it before. It's amazing actually. We had

it before. It's amazing actually. We had

lunch. We have a great understanding.

It's a very positive thing to have these two nations getting along.

Mr. President, on Taiwan, you said you were going to check with the president of Taiwan. Uh, but the 1982 uh asurances

of Taiwan. Uh, but the 1982 uh asurances that President Reagan gave said you would not the United States would not consult with China on arm sales to

Taiwan. So, sounds to me like you have

Taiwan. So, sounds to me like you have consult 1980s is a long way. It was has a big decision. You dispenseed with them. No, I didn't say anything about

them. No, I didn't say anything about it, but certainly, you know, he brought that up. He talked about that being

that up. He talked about that being obviously. So, what am I going to do?

obviously. So, what am I going to do?

Say, I don't want to talk to you about it because I have an agreement that was signed in 1982. Uh, no, we discussed arm sales uh too.

What's his request? Taiwan, you know, the whole thing with the arm sales was in great detail, actually. And I'll be making decisions. what will but you know

making decisions. what will but you know I think the last thing we need right now is a war that's 9,500 miles away. I

think that's the last thing we need.

We're doing very well.

Would the US defend Taiwan if it came to it?

I don't want to say that. I'm not going to say that. Uh there's only one person that knows that. You know who it is? Me.

I'm the only person. That question was asked to me today by President Xi. I

said I don't talk about those today.

He asked you if you would send troops that you would do.

He asked me if I defend them. I said, "I don't talk about that."

She said, "It was you talked to him about the cyber attacks that he's done in the United States or the MS." I did.

And uh he talked about attacks that we did in China.

You know what they do? We do too. It's

like the spying. They're talking about Oh, the spying. I said, "Well, we do infrastructure."

Look, no, I'm talking about spying.

The question was asked of me yesterday, I guess. What about the fact that China

I guess. What about the fact that China is spying yet? And the United States has said, "Well, it's one of those things cuz we spy like hell on them, too." So,

what about the fact that China is putting in the US infrastructure code that they could use if we if you ever decided to come to the Well, you don't know that. I mean, I'd like to see it, but it's very possible

that they do. And we're doing things to them. I don't we do a lot of stuff to

them. I don't we do a lot of stuff to you that you don't know about and you're doing things to us that we probably do know about but we do plenty. It's a

double it's a double-edged sword on President Xi and in a couple of years ago when President Biden met him in San Francisco he was asked if he thought uh President Xi was a dictator. Do you

think President Xi is a dictator? I

think that uh President Biden was an incompetent president. He gave us the

incompetent president. He gave us the Iran nuclear deal which allowed Iran to have a nuclear weapon within a matter of years from the time they said I terminated it. If I didn't terminate

terminated it. If I didn't terminate that, Iran would have a nuclear weapon.

Then they would have used it within probably 2 years ago, 3 years ago. If I

didn't go in with the B2 bombers 9 months ago, uh Iran would have a nuclear weapon and nobody would be able to talk to him. By the way, they would have used

to him. By the way, they would have used it already.

But do you think President Xi is a dictator or not?

I I don't think about it. He's the

ruler. He's the He's the president of China. I don't think about it. You deal

China. I don't think about it. You deal

with what you have. I respect him. He's

very smart. He loves his country. I

respect him. Whether he's a dictator, that's for you to figure out.

President, you said you didn't talk about tariffs, but did you talk about fentanyl at all?

I did. I talked about fentanyl. As you

know, I put a tariff on because of fentanyl and uh they discussed that, but I I put a penalty. It's a penalty. very

a lot of money we take in because of that. I'd prefer not taking it and I'd

that. I'd prefer not taking it and I'd prefer that we don't have but we did talk about ventilators.

Well, you know the fentanyl is down way down from where it was and it could be because of the tariff penalty. So, back

to what you were saying before about the uh enriched uranium and that is behind.

So, what would your logic be in having just a 20 year deal? I mean they the deal that you pulled back was 15 years.

Whether they would have gotten that faster or not is up to you. But what

would the difference be here?

Well, Obama had virtually no deal. Obama

had a road to a nuclear weapon and I terminated that deal. And if I didn't terminate Barack Hussein and Obama, if I didn't terminate that deal, Iran would have had a nuclear weapon two years ago.

As you know, that deal long expired.

We're taking the most years doing it.

Then after your bombing then I'll tell you what. I know you backed Obama, which

you what. I know you backed Obama, which shows what a fraud you are because that was the worst deal. They would have had a nuclear weapon within a period of a year and a half after I terminated it.

If I didn't terminate that and if I didn't send the B2 bombers in 9 months ago to obliterate, you know, one thing that did happen, which was very nice,

the top person in Iran representing them is the top person. He said, "I'm the only one, meaning the United States is the only one along with possibly China

that would be able to get the nuclear dust out of that disaster that we created with the B2 bomb."

Are you willing to do that? Why do you want?

Yeah. No. At the right time, at the right time. Uh, we'll either go in or

right time. Uh, we'll either go in or we'll get it. I think we'll probably get it, but if we don't get it, we'll go in.

You're willing to mount the operation?

No. I think they'll be totally defeated and we won't have any risk. Okay, we

have the equipment to take it out. Uh,

nobody else does. China might have the equipment. They said you're the only

equipment. They said you're the only one. They said you and China, but they

one. They said you and China, but they weren't sure. We have We have the

weren't sure. We have We have the equipment to take it.

Sir, did you discuss North Korea with she?

I did.

What came out of that?

You know, I have a very good relationship with Kim Jong-un. Uh,

pretty quiet. Have you had any communications with him? I guess what kind? Doesn't matter. I mean, I don't

kind? Doesn't matter. I mean, I don't tell you about that, but I have a good relationship with him. He's been

respectful of our country. I want him to be respectful. He's been respectful of

be respectful. He's been respectful of our country. Hey, thank you very much.

our country. Hey, thank you very much.

Enjoy the flight, everybody. Thank you.

I heard you didn't have cameras back here. In fact, I loved it. I heard that

here. In fact, I loved it. I heard that they got a camera. I heard that you were shut out for 2 hours until we leave the airspace. But he's got a camera. Never

airspace. But he's got a camera. Never

misses a trip. You better make me look good with that camera.

All right. Thank you very much, everyone. Thank you.

everyone. Thank you.