華人男子僅因帶槍去教堂，被判25年監禁！

Are you armed today?

>> I am a legal carrier.

>> I'm carrying with you right now.

>> I always carry you. If

>> I secure your weapon for a minute.

>> Yeah. Go ahead.

>> Okay.

>> Do what I have. Just for my safety, I

have a knife right there,

>> sir. Okay. Just don't

>> I'm going to detain you until I figure

out what we have here. Okay.

>> All right. Just sit tight.

>> Safer for you and safer for us.

>> What do you have in your car? Do you

have anything in your car?

>> Well, now that you mention that, there

is one round of magazine. I always keep

one in my car. Maybe a pepper spray.

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Hey, how are you? Can I talk to you

outside a minute?

>> Yeah, sure. Sure.

>> All right, cool. How are you today?

>> Uh, I'm doing good. I'm doing

>> Sure.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> What's happening?

>> Uh, he uh

>> Let's come over here if you don't mind.

Well, he uh he wants me to leave. So, I

am I showed him my ID. Okay. And I I am

actually leaving now.

>> Okay.

No complaints. Can I talk to you over

here? Yeah.

>> What's going on? Are you armed today?

>> Um I am.

>> Are you armed today?

>> I am a legal carrier.

>> Come on over here.

>> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Whatever you want to know, you know.

>> Are you armed though today? Are you

carrying with you right now? I always

carry.

>> Okay. You carry?

>> Yes.

>> Okay.

>> So, if you want me I I I can leave the

premises. I don't have to, you know,

come back or or, you know, wear

anything. But

>> you have a concealer.

>> Yes, I do. I I can show you. I'm going

to reach into my wallet and

>> Okay. Where's your weapon?

>> Uh, it's on my right side. Can I put

this on the ground?

>> Say again. Yeah, you can put the Yeah,

put the coffee down over here.

>> Shuffling around.

>> Yeah, that's fine. Well, the reason why

I got called is I got a I got a call

about you coming to the church

>> that there was some type of possible

threat or something.

>> No, no. Here's my ID. And then you

wanted to see that. So, maybe I should

take this off, too.

>> Yeah, sure.

>> Yeah.

>> So,

>> would you mind just pulling your jacket

up so I can see where you're Can I just

>> Yeah. You don't want to have a check?

Okay.

>> That's okay. You You can feel it if you

want.

>> Technically, you can't have a weapon on

church property. It's not allowed unless

you're authorized by the church. Yeah,

you can't carry on church property or

school property concealed. Not not when

it's shown.

>> Correct.

>> Anytime.

>> I'm sorry about that. I did not.

>> You don't know?

>> I did not know. I thought

>> you had to take the test to get this.

>> I thought you can't enter

government buildings in you can't have a

weapon on church property or school

property at any time whether it's a

weapon or not.

>> I didn't know that. Okay.

Just don't reach for your weapon at all.

No.

>> If you will, I will take action. You

understand that?

>> I understand that.

>> So, how did I get contact with you

today?

>> Um, I think

>> why am I contacting you today?

>> I think I I don't know. Um, I think it

was because we were talking. Right. He's

stacked.

>> No.

>> I got an alert from Fairfax County about

you coming to the church. Did you make a

threat to the church?

>> No.

>> That you're going to

>> I did not make a threat.

>> You didn't make any type of

>> I did not make sent an email uh to I

think asking donation refund.

>> Who?

>> I don't know his last name.

>> Okay.

>> Somebody as part of the church.

>> Yes. I asked for a donation refund and

they returned it to me. So

Okay.

>> They returned it last.

>> So, why are you here today then?

>> Because I want to see what it's like

again to be here.

>> Okay. So, you made a donation. You

requested a refund back.

>> Because Yeah. I feel like the

relationship was kind of ruined.

>> We're here at the church.

>> Yeah. Because I got very angry. Not not

that kind of angry, but I got, you know,

in my email I said, you know, I

>> I'm out with the subject. If you could

keep one more unit coming, I'm at the

front entrance.

>> Subject is armed.

>> So, I made no threat to anyone.

>> Okay.

>> I am no threat to anybody.

>> I when I as I was actually very grateful

um at first um early on and that's why I

started making donations. It was 10% of

every paycheck. Um, and it was an

automatic donation, but on the bottom of

the paper, you know, 90-day tithing

challenge, tithing challenge,

>> it said if you know, if your life

doesn't improve after 90 days, ask for

your refund. So, what happened was

nearly the next day after my first

donation,

>> you know, life started going downhill

really fast and I I don't know, the next

a couple of weeks about a couple weeks

later, I got a very bad infection that

almost went to my eye. I got laid off

from my job. This and that. And

>> how does that deal with the church,

though?

>> It's it's a spiritual thing. Like it's

it's kind of like, you know, it's not a

direct connection, but I felt like, you

know, even people that I've met, they

said, "Oh, I I was sent by God or or

people would say these, you know,

spiritual things to me." And then I kind

of make an indirect connection. So, I

think, okay, well, now I want my refund

back.

>> There's a weapon on his right side.

>> Yeah. I showed him everything.

>> Okay.

>> So, that's the story. You have your

license on you handy?

>> Yeah. Well, I gave it You have it right

there.

>> Oh, I'm sorry. That's right. Okay. I

just was looking at that.

>> Do you still live on?

>> Yes.

>> Okay. So, what's your intentions today?

>> Who did you send a message to on

Instagram?

>> Instagram? Yeah.

>> I didn't send anybody a message on I

didn't send a direct message to anyone

on Instagram. Okay.

>> So,

>> did you make any statements online or

otherwise that you're going to burn the

church or burn the Bible?

Okay, the I did burn a Bible and that

was my Bible

>> where

>> in my house in the in the kitchen sink.

>> But I made no threats as in I'm going to

burn, you know, somebody's Bible or I'm

going to say I'm going to do such and

such action to No. What

>> if I secure your weapon for a minute?

>> Yeah, go ahead.

>> Okay. Do what I have for my safety. I

have a knife right there, too.

>> Okay. Just don't reach anything.

>> I'm not going to I was trying to

>> keep your hand up where I can see.

>> I was just trying to

>> just hold yourself still. I'm just going

to secure this until we're done. Okay.

>> Do what you got to do.

>> Okay.

>> Do what you got to do.

>> All right. Just sit tight.

>> Do what you got.

>> You have anything else on you? I'm going

to bet you down for my safety.

>> Did you get my knife?

>> I got I got it. I got it.

>> You got my knife?

>> Yes, I have your knife.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah. Go ahead and get your knife.

>> Actually, just leave him the way he is.

I got his weapon. He's good enough right

now. There's enough of us here.

>> There might be something sharp in the

wallet if you want to pass other.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Here, let me take his wallet, too. Here,

I'll take it.

>> Yep.

>> You have anything else on you, sir?

>> Um, I don't. No, I don't. I'm going to

take the rest of them real quick. You

can check.

>> Actually, do me a favor, sir. I'm going

to detain you until I figure out what we

have here. Okay.

>> Okay.

>> All right. Just sit tight. Safer for you

and safer for us. Okay. Yeah, that's

fine. Whatever you need to do. I

>> You're not under arrest. You're just

being detained right now.

>> I understand. I

>> You don't have anything else on you? No,

>> I'm just patting you down. What do you

have in here?

>> What's that?

>> That's probably a first aid kit. You can

reach into my pocket.

>> You mind?

>> Yeah. Go ahead.

>> I just don't want to get

>> sharp or anything.

>> I don't think so.

>> Huh?

>> I don't think so. No, there's not.

There's nothing else in there. Might be

a portable battery for my cell phone.

>> That's my cell phone. That's my cell.

>> Yes,

>> that's my smartphone.

>> You want to put them in yours? combo to

mess.

>> No problem. You got an extra round.

>> That's not going to do any damage anyway

cuz you have my weapon.

>> What do you have in your car? Do you

have anything in your car?

>> Well, now that you mentioned that, there

is one round of uh magazine. I always

keep one in my car. Maybe a pepper

spray.

>> Um

>> I'm going to just sit you in here a

minute.

>> Okay.

>> Am I under arrest?

>> I said you're detained. You're not under

arrest.

>> Okay.

>> But I want to sort what we have here.

>> Okay. You don't have anything else on

you. I'm going to take these off. You

>> take that.

>> And sometimes if I'm anxiety now, I just

>> You ever thought about hurting yourself

or anything?

>> I am on

>> no hurting myself not as not as much in

the past more so. But

>> thought about hurting others?

>> No. A couple maybe a two months ago I

was on anti-depressants.

>> Okay. Have you thought about hurting

yourself?

>> There were times where for example when

I had an infection where I thought you

know damn I I this is a pretty bad life.

How how long ago was that?

>> Uh maybe a month ago.

>> Okay.

>> Um

>> did you talk to anybody about this?

>> Yeah, I not really. No therapist. I

didn't want to really bother my family

or anyone else with this stuff.

>> So, have you come here today to

>> for any reasons to hurt anybody or

yourself?

>> No.

>> You come to a church armed

>> and you're not on the security team and

you're not working with me?

>> I go to a lot of places armed so I can't

>> Okay. Well, you have to know where you

can and can't carry armed.

>> That I should.

>> Correct. You should know that. Correct.

Yes.

>> If you're concealed weapon.

>> All right. Just sit tight for me. Okay.

You're not. Like I said, you're not

under arrest. You're being detained

right now for your safety mind. And um

then we'll go from there with the car.

Okay.

What kind of car is that? It's a twodoor

Mercedes coupe.

What's this? What is this?

>> Oh, that's a tracker for my wallet.

>> Okay. Like an air tag?

>> Yes. You want to know some of some some

things that I've said and some

>> You work for the government?

>> I did, but

>> so how long ago?

>> I was laid off on August 17th.

>> Why do you still have an ID?

>> That because I am waiting for them to

collect it.

>> Huh?

>> I'm waiting for them to collect it. That

was actually from a previous employer. I

sent them an email, my security officer,

a while back. This is expired in a week.

>> I'm not using that.

>> I understand.

>> Some of the things I've probably said or

>> to friends or family, I'm really just

asking for help. I It's kind of a call

for help.

>> Okay. It looks like you want some help.

>> Yeah.

>> You want to go see a therapist today?

>> Uh, see, that's the problem. I don't

think I can afford that.

>> Okay. Well, we can get we can get you,

>> you know, maybe tomorrow. Maybe I have.

>> Would you want us to Would you want us

to have you talk to one? It appears to

me that you're asking you want to talk

to somebody today. I can get you there.

>> I I don't Maybe I should just contact my

family. I've never hurt anybody. You can

look at my background. I've never hurt

myself.

>> I have had,

>> you know, depressive episodes in the

past and they were pretty bad, but even

then I never hurt anybody. So check my

background.

Anything about this? I don't think so.

The sheep. No hairspray. You think we

should take it or no?

>> No. Spray.

>> Yeah.

>> Or we can spray it out.

>> We'll take it.

>> What do we got? So, it had a backpack.

Well, what stuff in here?

>> So, in this backpack was the uh

>> Do you want to take this and put the gun

in it or we can't put that in there?

>> No, there's no sense of us taking that.

>> I'm not going to take that. I have the

package.

>> Does it say what range he was going to

to shoot? Cuz he's got a target there.

>> He's got ammo here.

>> Let's take all of his ammo, too.

>> Take that, too.

>> Okay. Yeah.

>> So, this backpack just has a gun case in

it and nothing else.

>> Yeah, it looks to me like probably like

a range bag. That's where he had his

headphones in. And what did he act like

when you approached him? Is he acting

scared or

>> um He was just a little uh subdued.

>> Okay. I expected to find more concerning

things.

>> Nothing in here.

>> Did you rumage through it a little bit?

>> Okay, good.

>> All right, sir. Yes. Um based on

everything that's transpired here this

morning, it is our um determination that

you are suffering from um some type of

undiagnosed um mental illness at this

point and we are going to take you into

custody and an emergency custody order

to get you um evaluated by the community

services board. It is up to them to

determine whether or not you

>> you will remain in custody or not. But

for all intents and purposes right now,

you are on an ECO.

>> Oh, what is that? emergency custody

order to take you to go get mentally

evaluated.

>> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Because we've determined that you're a

danger to yourself and others at this

point.

>> Okay. What will happen?

>> So, we're going to go down to the

hospital and I'm going to have someone

from the community services board come

over and we're going to move over here

and I'm going to check your person again

before we go down there.

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