6 Words to Tell Yourself Every Morning

This is going to be one of the most eyeopening and transformative conversations [music] you've ever heard on this podcast. Erin, what's the one

question you want [music] people to ask themselves before they even open the door to the closet in the morning?

How do I want to feel? How do I want to feel?

Six [music] words. We all have to get dressed in the morning the same way we have to brush our teeth. So, aren't you going to want to walk as [music] your most supernova self and not, you know, be afraid to be that person? Like, what

are you waiting for?

Aaron Walsh is one of the most soughtafter celebrity stylists on the planet. She has styled some of the

planet. She has styled some of the biggest names in Hollywood for red carpets, magazine covers, press tours, and defining career moments. She

believes getting dressed, it's not about trends, it's about who you are. It's

about your identity and who you want to become. She is the best-selling author

become. She is the best-selling author of the new book, The Art of Intentional Dressing. And you're going to hear three

Dressing. And you're going to hear three women on our team who are part of this episode admit deeply personal things about how they feel and how they felt [music]

and how much they've changed since just trying this different way of getting dressed. This is about using what you

dressed. This is about using what you have in your closet to help you feel confident, energized, more powerful,

protected. It's a mindset shift. It is

protected. It's a mindset shift. It is

simple. You can do it immediately and you will feel the impact every [music] single day for the rest of your life. My

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This conversation with Aaron Walsh, it's going to blow your mind. Let's get into it. Aaron Walsh, welcome to the Mel

it. Aaron Walsh, welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast.

I have no words. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you. Well, I'm thrilled that

here. Thank you. Well, I'm thrilled that you came to Snowy Vermont and this is the first episode that we have taped here in the barn.

Fireside chat.

Fireside chat is right.

Sexy unplugged.

And well, you're going to help us be sexy if that's what we want to feel. I

want to start by asking you, how is my life going to be different if I take everything to heart that you're about to teach us today

about using clothing as a way to embody the feeling that we want, the person we want to become? How's my life going to change? Um, number one, I think, um,

change? Um, number one, I think, um, your life will change when you start to see what you wear as a means to embody your best self every single day. When

you start to believe and embody the idea that you matter and that how you enter a room and how you live energetically all day long will not only serve the story of who you are and why you're here, but

it will it will impact everybody. It's

it's um the possibility itself is is limitless. Do you think that's possible

limitless. Do you think that's possible based on changing how we get dressed in the morning?

I think you become the change that you see as possible in yourself. You learn

to wear the change you want to see in the world. And the whole thing with

the world. And the whole thing with embodiment like people, they look at clothes as a luxury and it's not.

Fashion is not something that's frivolous. So why would you not get

frivolous. So why would you not get intentional about it? Because it's a means to arm yourself to tell the story that you want to tell to the world of who you are every day. And how you spend your days is how you're remembered. And

it's like the legacy you leave behind.

When you say fashion, what do you mean?

Because when I look at my my closet, I see clothing.

I think I don't think fashion because I'm like, "Oh, well that's red carpet. That's like

fancy stuff. That's like not something I'd wear to work." What do you mean when you say fashion?

I mean I mean fashion like tools. I may

be a celebrity stylist or a fashion stylist, but I've never seen it that way. I I see myself as a fashion

way. I I see myself as a fashion therapist. I love clothes. I always have

therapist. I love clothes. I always have since I was a little kid. But fashion is the incidental part. The clothes are the choices. The clothes are the tools. and

choices. The clothes are the tools. and

how you put them together and the texture and the color and the silhouette and the proportion and ultimately how each piece makes you feel is the story.

What you wear is the story. Fashion is

like the icing on the cake. That's like

the next level part, the style. But I

don't think the point is style. I think

it's about learning to use fashion or what you wear as a tool to embody your best self that's possible to you. So,

when you say fashion therapist, what are you teaching women to learn about themselves based on the decisions they're making when they open their closet in the morning and they decide

what they're going to wear?

I number one, I want women to like stop.

I want them to take a pause and get clear on who they want to be and what their potential is. And I think like the therapy is you can't do that without having compassion for yourself because you don't get to decide how you feel

when you wake up in the morning. And

most days some of we we may feel anxious or tired or bloated or you know jetlagged or confused or not our best self. So how can you have compassion for

self. So how can you have compassion for yourself and take a pause to get clarity to return back to who's that person I want to be and how do I want to feel?

Like that's where the compassion comes in. And that's like self therapy. That's

in. And that's like self therapy. That's

self-care ultimately. It's it's a pause that like those moments and those rituals if you choose to bring them into your life every single day they will change your life. Even just taking a

pause is a radical idea because I'll just say before meeting you. I would

throw open the door to my closet and I don't pause. I throw open the door and I

don't pause. I throw open the door and I think the first thing I think is okay, what am I going to wear, right?

Maybe I think about my day and then I go through the process that I think a lot of us do of looking through a lot of things that probably don't fit me. Y

and I feel discouraged and overwhelmed because unlike you, I was not into style and fashion. I was like animals kid, you

and fashion. I was like animals kid, you know, match the clothes, just buy them.

Totally.

And so it feels overwhelming. So I think even just that first piece, as you're listening or watching on YouTube, I want to make sure you know there's a pause that you need to take

because I don't think most of us do.

I think like the reason why most women they go to the closet and they're like, "What the f do do I wear?" And it's the starts the spiral of you feel bad about yourself. You start to feel like you're

yourself. You start to feel like you're not enough either for the outside world or even for your own closet and you don't feel connected to your body. So

all of that is is going into action before taking a pause, getting clear, taking a moment. How do I want to feel?

Who do I want to be? How do I embody that person? What tools do I need at my

that person? What tools do I need at my disposal? I believe so much in this

disposal? I believe so much in this intersection of style and spirituality and style and wellness. And people think they're mutually exclusive. I'm not

trying to prescribe any kind of spirituality or like something too woowoo for people, but the idea that like your insides connect to your outside is so fundamental and so foundational and that is like so wildly

transformative and empowering. What are

the layers of why this is so emotional?

Oh, there's so many. Um, I think let's have them all because I think we all feel it. Like I I look at all the money

feel it. Like I I look at all the money I've wasted on things I've never I look at all the things I just can't get rid of. I I look at the the things

that I you know bought for the person I wanted to be that never h like I there's so much wreckage in my closet.

Totally. Well, the thing is it's such a vulnerable place. It's such a minefield

vulnerable place. It's such a minefield and there's so many metaphors to it.

Like I always think of someone's closet like their insides like their soul. And

most people's closet it's not who they are who they want to be. It's all these people that they used to be. And that's

why it's such a minefield for feeling not like your best self because you see these jeans that used to fit when you when you were hot in your 20s or you had a baby and your body is sort of you

don't relate to it anymore. Um and as most women I know it's not just like the postpartum or the permenopausal or even aging in general. Our bodies change all

the time. So it's not like there's ever

the time. So it's not like there's ever you know a rel like you need options.

There's not something that's always going to work for you. And that's where the compassion piece comes in. Like it

or not, we tell the story of who we are every day. By how you are, by every

every day. By how you are, by every single choice you make, by how you talk to people, by how you enter a room, by your energy, by how you choose whether or not to embody your best self. It's

about knowing every single piece that is a part of your life, getting intentional with it, and understanding why it resonates with you and how it can help be transformative and console you. So,

if you start by being intentional, you live more intentionally and you feel better. And that's the game changer.

better. And that's the game changer.

I'm thinking about getting dressed in the exact opposite way.

Tomorrow you're not.

No, [laughter] but but I I I feel like there's an opportunity to lean in because there is so much about life that we do on autopilot 100%.

And that we just kind of phone it in on.

And common sense tells you, and as you're listening or watching, you've had this experience where you intentionally choose to wear something different, and

you feel different.

You feel different, you're received differently, you move differently, you remember the day differently, and that changes what's possible for the next day. Um, what I have found in doing

day. Um, what I have found in doing this, like the whole idea of like dressing intentionally or thinking intentionally about your clothes, you start there, it starts to affect every single area of your life and how you

think about everything from a conversation you're having with a friend to like how you approach a meeting to how you talk to your kids.

So, you've styled all these mega celebrities and you also though talk about your aunts in the Midwest.

Oh my god, I love that. What is the through line in the truth about getting intentional that connects the dots from these mega celebrities all the way to your aunts in the Midwest to each and every one of us that is

listening to you right now?

So when I wanted to make a book, it wasn't because I worked with famous people. It was because most women I ever

people. It was because most women I ever met had this relationship with getting dressed that it made them feel bad about themselves. And I kept thinking, I'm

themselves. And I kept thinking, I'm like, well, this that doesn't make sense. I know I know like what you wear

sense. I know I know like what you wear can be transforming and empowering and and lifechanging. It changes how you're

and lifechanging. It changes how you're seen, how you're remembered, like but what can I do? Like how do I shift that so that I can offer that to everybody?

Because the bigger purpose to me isn't like you know that the superstars we look up to exist. No, they they're there but they remind us of the possibility that we can see within ourselves. Well,

what I got from what you just said is, and if I think about the context of you quote styling a celebrity and the high fashion involved, a lot of us that have,

you know, been looking at these images in magazines or looking at it in TV or online, we we don't think about the fact that that is an example of somebody

getting dressed intentionally for a very specific job.

Yes. versus kind of how we all throw on sweats and go through our daytoday life and the same stuff that we wear all the time and the idea of thinking intentionally

about what you want to wear and you said this earlier and how that presents a certain version of you.

It does. People don't know what to buy.

They think that buying is the solution and the solution again it starts with yourself. I think it's like um well I

yourself. I think it's like um well I don't know anything about fashion.

That's the luxury part. like it's not for me. Like and they remove themselves

for me. Like and they remove themselves from the game. But like no, like whether or not you like it, you're in the game.

So you have to What do you mean you're in the game?

Like you're in the game of being alive and being in the world. So aren't you going to want to walk as your most supernova self and not, you know, be afraid to be that person? Like what are you waiting for? This is something you

talk about all the time. Like this is it. It's not a dress rehearsal. You got

it. It's not a dress rehearsal. You got

to learn how to play the part. Not just

play it, but embody the part so you feel it of the person you want to be. Erin,

what's the one question you want people to ask themselves before they even open the door to the closet in the morning?

How do I want to feel?

How do I want to feel?

Six words.

Six words that we're going to ask ourselves every morning. You're about to open the closet. You're going to stop for a second and go, "Okay, how do I want to feel?

How do I want to feel?" That's your compass. That's where you start. I I I'm

compass. That's where you start. I I I'm pausing because I don't think anybody ever does that. I

think we go, "What should I wear?"

They jump.

What fits, right? And then that starts the spiral

right? And then that starts the spiral of dysfunction.

Why do these six words, how do I want to feel? Why does this fundamentally

feel? Why does this fundamentally transform the way you look at clothing and how clothing is a tool to help you

create the life that you want? When you

start from that point of view, number one, that first honors who you are. A

lot of people jump to the doing or to the honoring how everybody else needs me to feel or how how do I want to be seen, which is a different thing. If you start

from a place of how I want to feel, that honors you. And it it's it's like a

honors you. And it it's it's like a message of you like not just offering compassion to yourself or a lens of love, but it's deciding that you matter first. And by you embodying your best

first. And by you embodying your best self, you can better like walk in the world.

Well, what's interesting, and I'm just kind of getting this right now, is that when I ask myself, "What the heck am I going to wear?"

and half the things in my closet don't fit or I don't like them or they feel like an old version of me. I'm already

making a decision to dress based on what I think is going to look okay to the world versus stopping to ask myself this intentional question, how do I want to feel?

And when you dress from a place of wondering if it's good enough for the world, you've already decided that you're not good enough for the world. By

you asking yourself how do I want to feel? You're deciding that what you

feel? You're deciding that what you think and what you feel matters. And

that's the lens to operate with the rest of the world. It's it's comes it's shifting it from a place of not good enough to ownership that how you feel and your energy matters.

Yeah. Like

I don't even consider it. Well, I

consider how negative I feel.

Totally. And that matters because like you need to see that person to embody that person. They go together. It's not

that person. They go together. It's not

like you leave her on the bed and then you like go be your best self all day.

They go together. You need to honor that person. And what I want to do is shift

person. And what I want to do is shift how women see their possibilities and their potential and what's what they see for themselves. And that's why like I

for themselves. And that's why like I see the closet as a portal the possibility. There's a couple things

possibility. There's a couple things that Aaron has already said that I'm just going to highlight cuz I do not want to have you step over it.

Yeah. And the first step to the art of intentional dressing is unlike how we currently open the closet and then just move right in and do like just like,

okay, what am I going to wear today? And

you're already going in the wrong direction. We're just going to take a

direction. We're just going to take a pause and then you're going to second step ask yourself those six words. How do I

want to feel? And that right there shifts everything because now what you're looking at in terms of the clothes

is you're looking, you said your closet can become a portal of possibility.

You are looking at your clothes as a tool to help you achieve that goal of how you want to feel. And

what's really cool about this method and these six words is every single day is different. give us some examples of the

different. give us some examples of the breadth of how you might answer that question. How do I want to feel?

question. How do I want to feel?

So, yeah, absolutely. I I think in general, three words are helpful.

Okay. So, three words.

I like to operate from that POV. And I

think the more and more you ask yourself this, you'll start seeing patterns that like for me, I always want to feel effortless, easy, and elegant. I like

you use the same three words every day.

I not every day.

Okay. because I think I would change it every day because there are some days like especially in New York City where I need to feel like a boss and like I need some, you know, big, you know, empowered energy and bold energy.

Well, just let's just stop right there and hover on those words because if you put into your mind, imagine walking into your closet and saying, "I want to feel bold, empowered, and like a boss." Yeah.

What you would grab to put on your body is very different.

Totally.

Than a day where you say, "I want to feel serene and peaceful and at ease."

Yeah. Totally. So, like I think what what the the cool thing about unpacking all this and like everything is a feeling. I want women to get super

feeling. I want women to get super intuitive with themselves and and how the fabric, how the shape, how the everything of each piece in their closet resonates with them. So, if I want to feel empowered and bold like it's not

just about say a bright color. I I might want like a bold silhouette or like a really bold shoulder jacket or like suiting etc. Structured pieces. Can you

just put us at a typical Tuesday? It's

6:30.

Yeah.

My energy is at the floor.

Mhm.

And I say, "How do I want to feel?" But

I feel like I don't like anything in my closet.

Yeah.

And how does it work in real life?

Yeah.

In that moment. So I first of all I I still am there all the time. So it's not like, you know, I make this method and I'm the one who's fixed. I I have children like crawling all over my head

at night. Like I'm not getting a decent

at night. Like I'm not getting a decent night's sleep. There's a lot of balls in

night's sleep. There's a lot of balls in there. They're trying to under the age

there. They're trying to under the age of 10.

Yeah. Three of them.

They're delicious angels, but they don't let me sleep. And that's okay. That's

part of this process.

So Aeron's waking up exhausted just like you and me.

I'm waking up exhausted. My body's not perfect. I like, you know, have had

perfect. I like, you know, have had three kids. There's a lot going on that

three kids. There's a lot going on that I don't necessarily need to unpack right now.

Well, you [laughter] hide it well in the clothing that you're wearing.

Well, thanks. Well, um, what I love as an extra size is, you know, you need to know at least three pieces in your closet that you feel great about. Like

for me, I I need to have an excellent pair of jeans because whether if if I'm into feeling effortless, easy, and elegant, they need to fit well. I I love to have and I'm, you know, I'm wearing

these things today. I love a great white shirt, not because it has to be white, but because like the crispness of it, the structure, like it makes me feel like a little bit strong, but also a

little bit elegant. And I like those dichotoies, I think. And then you hear a lot of talk about like the perfect black blazer. And it's not because everybody

blazer. And it's not because everybody needs a black blazer. It's because of what it does for you. Like a little structure, little bit of protection.

Black is a protective color. Again, I

would I don't I'm not going to tell each woman you need these three pieces in your closet. You need to go through this

your closet. You need to go through this journey in your closet and and pick out the things that make you feel great. And

then like look at your life. Like is it that you tend to need to feel easy, empowered, and elegant, or are you in a chapter of your life where you need to feel more supported, held, and strong?

Maybe you're not in a chapter where you're wanting all eyes on you, but you just want to feel put together. And

that's that's okay. But I would find the other pieces of armor that bring you back to yourself. Um, and that's where the compassion piece comes in because with our bodies changing and our lives changing, we're not meant to be the same

people all the time. That's why it's important to get clear how each piece makes you feel. The second that you said just start with three pieces and you went jeans, white shirt, blazer. And

when you explained it though metaphorically, like you feel comfortable in your own skin in the right pair of jeans, crisp white shirt or t-shirt or borrow one from your

partner that makes you feel classic and makes you feel refined but also something beautiful. But then when you

something beautiful. But then when you said the black blazer is protection, I felt that.

Yeah, I know that deeply. I knew I wanted to talk to you on the podcast because the second I learned this art of intentional dressing from

you and beginning the day by asking myself, "How do I want to feel?"

I see my closet completely differently.

I saw things inside my closet that I never reach for that helped me feel the moment I got dressed the way I wanted to feel. And I'll give you a simple

feel. And I'll give you a simple example. So, um, last week we were in

example. So, um, last week we were in Boston and we were doing a big production week. We were taping nine

production week. We were taping nine episodes in 4 days.

Wow.

And I also happened to get this kind of seasonal sinus thing. You can kind of hear it in my voice right now. I was so tired. I felt so ugly and puffy and

tired. I felt so ugly and puffy and yucky. And I knew your method.

yucky. And I knew your method.

And I said, "All right, Mel. You feel

like [ __ ] but how do you want to feel?

How do you want to feel?" And how do you need to feel because like you're you're Mel Robbins like you need to lead this team through nine episodes in 4 days.

Like how are you going to be that person?

I can't afford to get sick right now.

Yeah. You're not going to do it.

I'm not going to do it. And so I said I need to feel invincible.

Mhm.

I need to feel unstoppable.

Yeah.

And I need to feel confident.

I love these words. That is like a fire trio.

Correct. Very strong.

I could energy.

Yeah. I could put on my same uniform like I I I you know have worn the same black shirt for 10 years. I've worn the same black pants style for almost 10

years. But then I pulled out these boots

years. But then I pulled out these boots that you had me wear for one of the events at the Golden Globe. And I always joke I'm trying to wear them as much as possible to get the per price per wear down. [laughter]

down. [laughter] But when I pulled on the boots and I'm wearing them right now, they go up to the knee. They're crazy amazing.

the knee. They're crazy amazing.

I was like, "All right, now I am invincible in these boots." It's like Wonder Twins power activate. And I

powered through those days. And I kid you not, it was the intentional nature of I have something I need to do now.

When I got home Friday, that next morning, I woke up and I felt horrible. And I said, "How do I want to

horrible. And I said, "How do I want to feel today?" And I said, "Safe.

feel today?" And I said, "Safe.

I want to feel protected and I just want to feel soft.

Yeah, that's the shift.

And I grabbed the coziest pair of sweatpants.

They're hideous. They're old. They're

amazing.

And just this flannel kind of dad shirt and I slept for 3 days straight. But laying on the

couch in those clothes, I gave myself intentional permission to just ease in. And I know it sounds kind of weird, but I kid you not, when

you go tomorrow morning and you use this and you pause and you say, "How do I want to feel?"

Something crazy shifts inside you.

It's like Jedi [ __ ] Yes.

It's It's wild how this works. I'm now

gonna go a layer deeper.

When I see somebody that looks really pulled together, I see a woman that really takes care of herself. And if I want to feel more

herself. And if I want to feel more pulled together, if I want to feel like I respect myself, if I want to feel worthy, I should put on clothing that makes me feel like I've done that for myself.

Totally. And that's the action part of it. You talk about actions and the small

it. You talk about actions and the small steps you can take and the habits you make in your life all the time. That's a

habit. You choose to honor yourself. You

choose to get intentional. That's

changing your life bit by bit. You got

to get intentional about every single thing like whether it's your underwear.

the first thing you put on your body.

Not to say that you have to, you know, buy super expensive underwear, but what if you like invested in the first thing on your body being intentional to you and and you only put in your drawer things that made you not necessarily

sexy, but made you feel held and supported. Whatever the words are that

supported. Whatever the words are that you want that to do for you.

Well, I think it would be an improvement for most of us if we opened up the drawer and it wasn't just stained and stretched out underwear that you're like putting on as the first thing.

Totally.

Well, I I I will tell I'm 57 years old.

it.

Okay, I'm just about to confess some things here. Um,

things here. Um, I've only worn matching [laughter] bras and underwear for about a year. I Okay, first of all,

thank you for being honest. And I

thought, what is my hangup about buying myself matching bras and underwear? And

why am I holding on to this like awful stained stretched out thing that turns into dental floss or rides the wrong way? Why am I holding on to this? Why

way? Why am I holding on to this? Why

can't I spend $10 on myself and get a new pair of underwear?

That's a part of it. It's these small small actions. So like you start with a

small actions. So like you start with a baseline that should like start there.

Start with your under buy anything new.

Also have the supportive pieces because you can't the supportive pieces. You

can't be wearing a dress if you don't like how your body looks underneath the fabric. Um, I think that's that's

fabric. Um, I think that's that's relevant and people forget about that.

That's where they also the spiral happens when you don't have the tools in your arsenal. So, the first tools and I love

arsenal. So, the first tools and I love that we're thinking about fashion not as you got to be the most stylish person, but it's a tool to embody how you want to feel today.

Yeah. And the most stylish people, I don't think you're remembering what they wore. you're remembering who they

they wore. you're remembering who they like cuz we all follow people that we think have great style and then we're like it's what they're embodying that's what we're responding to

like there of course there's going to be the element of like that's a beautiful dress but the people you remember because of what they wear it's about how they are and how they are is informed by

how they feel so drawn to people that look effortlessly confident and I think happy that's where the joy is because The joy comes when you are in alignment, when

your insides align with your outsides.

That's like the key to happiness and possibility. Um I I it's it's what it's

possibility. Um I I it's it's what it's another reason why this is so important and so like the key to becoming the person you want to be because you can put on that suit, but until you connect

it with an element of yourself and how you want to feel and who you inherently are, it's not going to make sense. It's

certainly not going to tell the story of you to the world. Well, I I just realized in this method of dressing intentionally, I've been doing this

completely the opposite. So, either I only anchor down on how I actually feel right now.

Yeah. And that's

and then dressing like aligned with tired, exhausted, I got to get through the day. Oh my god. Um, or you're

the day. Oh my god. Um, or you're dressing to impress somebody else, but I haven't actually asked myself how

I want to feel. Like, if you're going to a networking meeting or you're going to a parent teacher conference.

Sure. And like imagine how you would change how you dressed if before this parent teacher conference where you're really nervous, you got a kid with an IEP, you want them to get services at

the school or you, you know, want to like have a good relationship with the teacher. How do you want to feel in that

teacher. How do you want to feel in that meeting?

Well, here's what people do. They jump

to the thing that that they should wear and how they want to be seen. And when

they do that, then they don't feel like themselves. They don't act like

themselves. They don't act like themselves. they they step on their

themselves. they they step on their their words and they don't feel comfortable. They don't feel their best.

comfortable. They don't feel their best.

When you start from a place of how you want to feel, then your choices allow you to feel like that person. That's the

game changer.

So, we shouldn't dress for the part we want.

You should dress to embody the person you want to be first for yourself because by honoring who you want to be for yourself, then you offer that to the world. When you jump to how you want to

world. When you jump to how you want to be seen by others, that's missing the connection of yourself and you always feel uncomfortable. You know what I love

feel uncomfortable. You know what I love about this is that we have had so many experts come on and talk about how you change your mindset or how you change your habits or

how you change your health.

And all of the research comes back to a very simple recommendation, not an easy one, but a simple one that how you act today

is a determination of who you're going to be six months from now.

Absolutely. And your habits today predict the future. And if you want the future you to be in better shape or to be calmer or to be more confident, you

have to act today.

Yeah.

Like a person who does those things.

So now you're layering clothes as a tool in the toolbox that we have.

Yeah.

To be able to act today like the person you want to be 6 months from now. But I

want to unpack dressing for yourself and how you want to feel and embodying in how you want to feel the person you'd like to become and you'd like to project in the world today

and how clothing is a tool just like a morning routine is just like mindsets are a tool that you can use.

I I'm just thinking about the number of days that I get dressed in my exercise clothes.

Yeah. Do you like them? Do they match?

No.

We got to we got to work. My exercise

clothes are old and they don't match.

That's not good.

And um I probably shouldn't go to the grocery store in them. Camel toe like saggy butt. Like I'm just saying this is

saggy butt. Like I'm just saying this is not poor Christopher Robins like the way. But what I'll say is that there's

way. But what I'll say is that there's so many days that because I had not learned the art of intentional dressing where I will sit in a pair of leggings

all day at my desk and just be doing my thing and the days that I bother [laughter] and then you wonder why you don't feel

worthy. The days that I bother to take a

worthy. The days that I bother to take a shower and pull myself together.

Yeah. How'd you feel? Well, I feel different even even without asking myself how do I want to feel.

This step of these six words is so transformational.

It makes it matter.

Yes. Like we're here and then you feel like you matter and and you're not letting other people decide for you. That's a part of telling your story. You could either enter a

your story. You could either enter a room and dress for how you want to be seen or you decide who you are and why you matter and then you decide for them and that's the story you tell to the world.

Oh, I love that.

Yeah. It's it's like maybe this is why so many of us feel alone in the rooms we're walking into because we haven't even dressed in a way that makes us feel truly how we want to feel.

You can't connect with somebody unless you feel like yourself. You're not going to. So like of course you feel alone.

to. So like of course you feel alone.

All right. So we've talked some tactics.

You've said we know the six words. How do I want to?

We know we pause.

We know we ask ourselves how do I want to feel? Six words. Pick three words.

to feel? Six words. Pick three words.

You also said a great place to start is are there three things in your closet right now?

Start there that just embody like you can wear this sucker like a uniform all week and just see how differently you feel embodied in these clothes that make you feel these three things.

Now let's talk though about the next layer.

The next layer. The next layer being that most of our closets are like a graveyard of the old versions of ourselves.

Um, so everybody does this. There's so

many reasons. You might buy something that's very expensive and you have like guilt about it. A lot of people have clothes with price tags in their closet.

A lot of people do this.

Yes, I have that.

And then they won't even give it away or sell it just because they're like, "Well, maybe." And the thing with

"Well, maybe." And the thing with holding on to something because you might be that person, it still doesn't relate to who you want to be. It's like

you're trying on that thing for size.

You already know it doesn't resonate with you. Um I recommend trying

with you. Um I recommend trying everything in your closet on for this reason. Like in the exercise of knowing

reason. Like in the exercise of knowing how everything every single piece makes you feel, you have to know how it feels on your body.

So walk me through crucial. So you walk in to the closet. The art of intentional dressing. You pause.

dressing. You pause.

You say, "How do I want to feel today?"

And you're looking for three words. If

you're staring at things that represent who you no longer are or who make you feel or that make you feel bad about yourself cuz you can't fit in it.

Yeah.

Or are you that dude that dumped you, bought it for you?

Totally. People hold on to the nostalgic items. I think like with nostalgic pieces, if there are some of course like if there's a sweater of your mom's or like you know your grandma's or someone you loved, I'm not saying get rid of

that. That's fine. Like you can even

that. That's fine. Like you can even have a separate place for that if if you want if if you have the luxury to do so.

But I I think like you have to the clarity. It all starts now. And having

clarity. It all starts now. And having

clarity on how you want to feel, who you want to be, how you're going to operate in every single room. Every single thing that you own starting in your closet, but then later in your whole life should even including the people you let into

your life should reflect that. Um and

so we try and everything look at it. We

say, "How does this make you feel? every

single piece. And that's that's the great part about it. You you start getting intentional, you can feel when you're not. And then you start feeling

you're not. And then you start feeling like, "Oh, I'm I'm not being true to myself." And even on the day when you're

myself." And even on the day when you're feeling so lazy and so fat and like so not good, on that day, you get a chance to do that again. And you can find her again. And then at the end of the day

again. And then at the end of the day when you're really tired and being your best self was really exhausting cuz you're sick and like it's just been a little bit overwhelming, you can you can like have a little compassion for yourself and put on the thing that makes

you feel soft and cozy. Like it's all these chapters of the day. Like I have But I love that you're not you're telling us other than getting rid of the stained underwear and like putting up some money so that you got some new ones. You're not saying you have to buy

ones. You're not saying you have to buy anything.

It's not about buying. I encourage

people to make a laboratory in their closets. So like so you want to make it

closets. So like so you want to make it fun. I I think quarterly you got to do

fun. I I think quarterly you got to do this exercise of going through every piece in your closet. How does it make me feel? Try it on. Take pictures of

me feel? Try it on. Take pictures of yourself in the pieces so you can create a photo album on your phone. So you and then even if if you're like next level, you put together the pieces that make you feel great and you experiment with outfits and you learn how they work and

why. So that if you're feeling lost in

why. So that if you're feeling lost in the morning and what the f do I wear, you have like a go-to like greatest hits section that's quite helpful. You have

to take some time to experiment. And

most people like we did this yesterday.

I love like with with like even your basic white shirt, you put it on backwards and that's telling a different story of you. And that might sound very weird to some of you so don't get scared. But I'm telling you, when you

scared. But I'm telling you, when you just try on things differently or you pin it up differently and and you decide, you know what, those jeans I've been wearing for two years, I think they look cuter when they show my ankle because that's really feminine and that

makes me move a different way. And all

of us have something that we feel great about or at least okay with. And you can start there. That's your baseline. And

start there. That's your baseline. And

then you go up from there. So what do I do if nothing feels like me anymore?

Oh, I don't know. I don't know why I feel this way, but I just feel like part of the uniform and the sneakers and just like no fuss in terms of how I dress cuz

I'm either up here in Vermont in Birkenstocks and a pair of like dovetail women's work wear jeans and a jean shirt or a t-shirt

or I'm in my uniform. But do you know what I see like a lot of women who feel disconnected from fashion or even their own beauty. It's because as women and as

own beauty. It's because as women and as working women and as women with lots of balls in the air, we get in the business of doing and we lose our understanding

of being and in the being energy and like like letting ourselves relax.

That's when you can feel beautiful and like your feminine energy. And when

you're not used to that or you're not in the habit of it, you forget about it and it feels uncomfortable and it feels foreign. We're not meant to just be

foreign. We're not meant to just be putting on our clothes and doing all the things. We're also meant to like use the

things. We're also meant to like use the energy of what we wear to feel into our possibility and that includes the softness. I think there's so much

softness. I think there's so much depth to what you're inviting us to do.

Mhm. a lot of layers because when you said the piece about like I you know I think men feel this too but women in particular like taking care of everybody else and no time to

slow down and I'm always last on my list and this is really when you lean into this a way to put yourself first first thing in the morning.

Yeah. and to name the emotions and the energy of how you want to move through the day.

It's like instead of just making writing down a list of like these are the all the things I want to feel easy, empowered elegant fabulous wonderful um those are all great but don't limit yourself. The idea is to become

yourself. The idea is to become limitless. So when you with every piece

limitless. So when you with every piece ask how does this make you feel? It

might surprise you your answer. M is it true that most of us wear the same eight things over and over again?

Yes. Um I think people tend to wear what they know works. So that's also how you get like stuck and you stop expanding and you stop um learning how like it's

the same way people stop expanding who they hang out with or who they talk to.

Like you stick with what feels safe. And

safe isn't bad. I'm guilty of that. I've

been doing that forever.

We all are. And you should have the pieces that make you feel safe, but they should also do other things for you. And

when they don't anymore, you should keep just like evolving.

So, what's the best way to look better and dare I say a little thinner without having to lose weight? Like, how do we look like our best when we're not at our best place?

So, number one, tailoring. Like, most

people wear clothes that don't fit their proportions correctly. So even with like

proportions correctly. So even with like a bold shoulder, you still want it to honor the like the lines of your body.

Tailoring number one, I I think like that that does it and and and understanding proportionally what feels good and structured on your body.

Structure will always offer you what is structure? I mean

structure from your undergarments and that's not about like undergarments hiding like cellulite or whatever.

That's about supporting the shape and the structure of your body.

Okay. Okay. So, I tell everyone, you don't need to have, you know, the Hollywood tailored to the stars. Your

dry cleaner is an excellent tool for this. And make sure your pant hems matt

this. And make sure your pant hems matt like that you take care of that. Make

sure with your jackets they're not swallowing you. Or if you want like an

swallowing you. Or if you want like an oversized blazer, make sure proportionally you're you're matching.

So, what parts of my body am I looking at? Am I looking at my shoulders to my

at? Am I looking at my shoulders to my waist to my hips?

I would look at um I I think most women need a pant that they can wear with a heel. And as you were telling me, like

heel. And as you were telling me, like your pant that you can wear with with sneakers or whatever, they have my favorite pair of jeans, although they're not my favorite anymore, but there's they were they were acceptable. They

look good. I bought them. I bought two pairs.

One that I wear with a heel and one I can wear with a flat. Yeah, I think um uh women need to invest in like layering pieces to like So like if you have your

shape outfit that you like like that's my favorite turtleneck and that's my jacket that like just like I feel a little bit polished in that and those are my jeans that cinch my waist and I can wear my cool boots and I feel like I got You need to have like I I love I

love like tossing a a sweater over the shoulders. Um or even just like just

shoulders. Um or even just like just because that offers more proportion to like you're a big shoulder pad person.

I I am. And it's like about being unafraid to take up space.

Well, what I also like about even just thinking about throwing a sweater on to your jeans, your white t-shirt, and your blazer is you're adding texture and softness and layers and protection in

some way.

Exactly. Exactly. And everything that you put on your body is telling a story.

So even like down to your jewelry, all of it. I think that there's like people

of it. I think that there's like people should have the fun pieces that even like by your by your door have like that great pair of sunglasses, that funny, you know, chunky shoe or clog or

whatever. Like just so like if if you

whatever. Like just so like if if you have errands even or you're going to drop off the kids, there should be one element of your outfit, even if you're in your workout clothes with like a

white man shirt that makes you feel cool and great and like just a little bit turn up the volume. It's like even when you don't have that much time, like there's always something you can do.

So, let's talk about clothes that don't fit. Yeah.

fit. Yeah.

Should I keep them?

No.

But what? Okay. [laughter]

Like, why do you not keep clothes that don't fit?

I'm guilty of this. I like You can give them away.

Why don't I want to walk into my closet and feel like crap about myself because I'm surrounded by things that I can't squeeze into the moselium.

[laughter] I had a pair of pants on that I tried on for you last night. I have

held on to these suckers for six years.

No, my menopause body does not work. I was

able to zip them up and you're just like, "Those do not fit you."

No, it's time to say goodbye, Mel.

It's time. And how exciting is that?

You're becoming I feel like I spent a lot of money on them and I didn't get the wear out of it.

You did. And there's things you can do so that you don't have to feel bad about that. You can sell your clothes. I love

that. You can sell your clothes. I love

to donate clothes to charities like a a charity like Dress for Success. Those

women are actively trying to feel like their bestelves. If you want to donate,

their bestelves. If you want to donate, like if you want to shed some selves that aren't working for you, give it to someone looking for their new self that deserves that, you know, portal to

possibility. Give them that chance. I

possibility. Give them that chance. I

also love the idea of sharing like like share circles with friends and family that you love. Like, oh, this isn't working for me. You could have a party with it. Like bring what I That's really

with it. Like bring what I That's really fun to do. That's really fun because then you like you're not telling everybody just to buy new clothes.

you're sort of mixing it around like how many clothes do you actually need? You know what I mean? Like

need? You know what I mean? Like

you don't need a lot. You need to have your greatest hits. I think in this uh album like look look at look at the math of a week and a month, right? You have

to know like what you're doing. So how

many work outfits do you need? Are you a working woman? Like who what what's the

working woman? Like who what what's the story of you telling like number one are you working? Like do you do you need

you working? Like do you do you need different outfits like in your weekend time? Like do you have other do you do a

time? Like do you have other do you do a lot of travel? Like do you need traveling? Like you need to look at the

traveling? Like you need to look at the road map of your life and that's going to identify what you need. Are these

pants that serve me like when I'm in my work mode and then in my travel mode or like in my dinner mode or in a meeting mode. Um, one of the things I love about

mode. Um, one of the things I love about the possibility of clothes and getting intentional about it is that all your clothes honor all the roles you wear.

All the women I know, they're not just one person. They're probably eight to

one person. They're probably eight to nine in the course of a day. And

energetically, having your clothes be able to shift with you and honor you and support you in all these roles is essential. And it's something that we

essential. And it's something that we forget. And it also makes it another

forget. And it also makes it another reason why it's so important besides the idea of embodying the person you want to be. It's honoring all the people that

be. It's honoring all the people that you have to serve all day long with like being able to be your best self. This is

brilliant because you're also tapping into intention and the energy of intention. And forever

I've looked at my closet like, "Oh my god, what's going to look okay?" I've

never put myself first in terms of intentionally saying, "How do I actually want to move through the day and feel?

And how am I going to use the stuff that's hanging here to make me do that?"

I am loving this. And so here's what I wanted to do. I mean, Erin, you're extraordinary, but I really wanted to put this to the test.

I love it.

Well, because you know, you hear that you work with, you know, people like Selena Gomez and an Oh, okay. and all of these red carpet moments and these editorial photo shoots, but what about the rest of us?

What about the rest of us?

So, I asked three women that I love who are in all different stages of life. One

is postpartum, another one is post-menopausal, and another one is a grandmother who is post cancer and post

knee replacement. All three of them know

knee replacement. All three of them know your method. They were instructed to ask

your method. They were instructed to ask themselves this morning those six words.

How do I want to feel? And now we're going to talk to each one. And the first is Jesse. And I just have to say to you

is Jesse. And I just have to say to you listening or watching, Jesse is one of our extraordinary video editors. She has

edited almost every episode of this podcast. So Jesse, you had a baby less

podcast. So Jesse, you had a baby less than a year ago. And how has getting dressed every morning changed since

having your beautiful daughter Ava?

It has been the hardest mental hurdle I think that I was not prepared for to dress postpartum with a completely new

body, new sizes that you've never had to shop for, look for, wear. You're getting

handme-downs because you're like, "This is going to be a phase. It's going to fall off totally." [snorts] as soon as I'm done

totally." [snorts] as soon as I'm done breastfeeding or as soon as or if I stay breastfeeding, something's going to happen.

It doesn't. And it's just been a just a postpartum itself is hard, let alone how to dress yourself cuz you can easily fall into the the slump of the Adam

Sandler vibe of just baggy everything, which has been a lot of my wardrobe the last year.

You guys call for that.

Yeah. It's all comfort and there has to be an elevated person who shows up because the baby's one thing, but I actually told my husband this. We did it. We did the

husband this. We did it. We did the first year. We're about to hit the one

first year. We're about to hit the one year mark. This is huge. What an amazing

year mark. This is huge. What an amazing year it's been. But this next year, we need to pivot it back.

And that's what I'm trying to figure out of how to navigate. It just starts with your clothes and how you feel and your confidence back because it's not like the weight's going

to fall off tomorrow.

So, yeah, it's been a very pack with what you just said.

Congratulations.

Thank you. Thank you.

Beautiful. Becoming a mom.

So, Jesse, until you learned the six words, let's go back like a couple days.

Yeah.

When you would walk into your closet in the morning, how did you feel?

Um, everything is right now oversized, which to me I'm like, it fits. It's

comfortable. It has to be easy to maneuver with a little one with just the ups and downs of her standing and walking and now she's crawling and um,

so I never have felt good that Jesse that was like, I love this outfit. It's

it looks beautiful on me that I don't know that person right now cuz it is a new year and it is a whole new wardrobe and but I it takes a toll that I was not expecting.

Yeah.

How did it impact you?

Um it's hard cuz I I think it was maybe like month four postpartum I actually went through all my clothes even though I was like ah I'm going to lose the weight and I didn't cuz I love all these

jeans. I spent a lot of money on these

jeans. I spent a lot of money on these clothes and it was like just be honest.

If it doesn't fit, get rid of it. You

can always go buy something new when you do get to a size you want to be.

And that felt really good to go through and weed it out.

And you got rid of them.

Oh, yeah. I got rid of them. But the bad side of that is I went the opposite to sizes. I went stuff that was too big.

sizes. I went stuff that was too big.

Right.

Because I want everything hidden.

Right.

Right.

I got rid of the stuff that was a pre-baby. Yeah,

pre-baby. Yeah, Chessy. Um, and then I just went the

Chessy. Um, and then I just went the other extreme, which is not right, I don't think, to go from like two sizes above what I should be wearing actually, you know.

Well, what's interesting is you just like you said, it's not right. But I

think like what we'll have to uncover today is that it's not about right or wrong or what it should be or what it was. Mhm.

was. Mhm.

It's about where you are now and what serves you and how you want to feel. So,

as a mother like like and this new you like I'm curious like how did you answer that for yourself this morning? Like how

do you how do you want to feel?

Yeah, this morning I chose the words practical because being a mom you need to be able to bend and grab and pick her up and walk with her and nothing fall

out. And then second was calm because

out. And then second was calm because with all the to-do lists, the the the job, the personal, the baby, like all of

it, I still want to show up calm and put together and confident confident in this new role as mom, as Jesse the mom, not

just Jesse. And how can she be

just Jesse. And how can she be confident?

When you had your three words, how did you feel this morning before you chose those three words?

Um, not calm.

not practical. Anxious. I was very anxious. Um

anxious. Um just trying to get out the door and figure out what to pack and then it's like you frazzled. Very frazzled. Yeah.

And then confident. I did not feel confident this morning cuz again it's my husband's out of town so you're trying to

navigate the household by yourself and that is difficult to do with a baby as well. and um lots to juggle. So, I

well. and um lots to juggle. So, I

remember listening to your mo your memo, taking several deep breaths, and I have everything in my closet color coordinated, which kind of helps clear my mind a bit, but I could just stand there with those three words like,

"Okay, these are the three that really pop to me that I want to feel." So, for practical, I went for my boot cut black high-waisted jeans, uh that are also

very stretchy, which is great. And I

have black boots on that I never really wear, but those tie into the confident word.

Um, normally I would just go my mud boots because we live in Vermont, but it's time to step it up a little bit.

And also, I have on a denim button-down shirt with a little white undershirt and some jewelry. I don't really wear

some jewelry. I don't really wear jewelry that often cuz the baby pulls at the jewelry, so trying to also get the details in there. Um, with necklaces.

Um, you have a cool belt on.

And I have a belt. Yeah, I tucked everything into my belt. Um, trying to show off a waist and hopefully it's it hits those words

practical, calm, and confident.

I'm curious if I asked you now like how how do you want to feel and you were thinking about yourself and not other people, would the words still be the

same? What would those words be?

same? What would those words be?

Okay.

got to think about that. Um,

probably powerful.

I feel beautiful. Yeah.

beautiful. Yeah.

in confident. So that is one of them.

Yeah. Great.

More of that. Sorry. [snorts]

No, but think about that. So powerful

like especially when you become a mom, a feeling of overwhelmed is feeling powerless.

Yes.

And like you don't know which step is next.

Um so I think with that feeling remembering how do I want to feel and not for other people but how do I want to feel? what serves me first before the

to feel? what serves me first before the mom of me, before the partner of me, before the badass boss Mel Robbins, [laughter] before that person, what serves you?

Because like that will turn up the volume on you being connected with yourself and you having choosing the right tools for you to do that.

Um, and the fact that you want to be powerful, you just had a baby less than a year ago. You're sitting here being super honest with us about extremely vulnerable emotional subjects that

essentially make us feel naked because to feel uh you know not enough is is is dehabilitating.

So when faced with that feeling that overwhelm that's already step one of owning your power and look you made great choices so you got you already got like a good

instinct going for you. Um, so you said um powerful, you said calm. Was that the confident?

Confident and beautiful.

And beautiful. I think beautiful is a good one because like look at this this woman sitting here. What's more

beautiful than seeing a version of you that is completely of service and offering like your raw whole self to your family in the world, which is what you're doing right now.

And that doesn't mean the size that you used to be or the size that you want to be tomorrow. That means like how can you

be tomorrow. That means like how can you have some movement in your body that makes you feel connected to your body?

Jesse, I just, you know, having been your friend for a long time, um, when you said the words practical, I was

like, I don't like that word at all. And

I felt this visceral thing as your friend because I have known you both before you had a baby.

Yeah. and now that you're a new mom and beauty and being beautiful was something that just oozed from you.

It's true.

And I can only imagine how the fact that you chose words practical, calm, and confident, which you absolutely look it,

but this outfit also fits for beautiful, powerful confident.

Yeah. And what broke my heart was knowing that you stand in front of the closet and you see clothing that you don't want to be wearing because it's

two sizes more than what you want to be.

Mhm.

And that makes you feel like you're not beautiful.

Yeah.

And I do think there's this extraordinarily powerful shift in you owning those words. And I I I

knowing you, those are your words.

Powerful beautiful confident.

That even just asking yourself, how do I want to feel? I want to feel powerful, beautiful, and confident. and then

looking and deciding. I personally feel that this is something you can do every day that almost becomes the image as I was as I was listening to you two talk

is it's like giving yourself permission to let this next year be about you.

Yes.

And putting you first for you. You're

already an amazing mom.

Yeah.

You are. and you're already an amazing wife and you're already a extraordinarily talented video editor and producer. You have those handled. If

and producer. You have those handled. If

you put yourself first and you ask yourself every morning, "How do I want to feel?" And the answer is, "I want to feel powerful. I want to feel confident. I want to feel

feel confident. I want to feel beautiful."

beautiful." It's almost as if the future you is giving you like a lifeline from the future to this moment.

It's that invisible thread you're like connecting to.

Yes. Because what I started to hear from you when I heard practical and calm is this sense of discouragement that you're not going to actually get back to

Yeah.

feeling beautiful again.

It's safe.

Yes.

It's very safe. comfortable. Same with

those clothes that are two sizes too big. They're safe.

big. They're safe.

Yeah.

But maybe there's elements of comfort that serve you, but to feel your most beautiful self, it's not those.

It's not those.

Yeah.

How did doing this method of intentional dressing and asking yourself that question, how did it change the way you got dressed today?

Um, it made me look at my clothes completely different because I know what I've been wearing thinking, "Oh, that's fine. It's just an

oversized sweater. It's an oversized

oversized sweater. It's an oversized cardigan."

cardigan." No, actually, it's not doing anything.

Not just for me physically, but it's not helping me mentally at all.

I'm just still hiding. So, today was like, show up in something like, "No, wear the boot cut jeans. Don't wear

Don't wear the loose ones." even though that's probably what I gravitate towards because it hides like stop hiding. It's

okay to be a new mom. It's okay to have a new body. It's okay to have a different size that I never thought I would wear in my life. And like no one's looking at my tags, you know?

Nobody.

And if I tags don't even make sense to anybody, by the way. They're all

different. Why is that?

Every every every brand is different.

Yeah. So, it's it it was a very kind of emotional shocking a morning for me to go into my closet and view it with feeling, not with I want to wear the blue shirt

today. Does that make sense? Like,

today. Does that make sense? Like,

it makes perfect sense cuz I had the same thing happen. And then you stand there like, whoa, I got to get rid of a lot of this cuz it's just it's not the vibe. It's not the energy. It's not who

vibe. It's not the energy. It's not who I want to be with those words, even the next three words that I just gave you. I

can't doesn't Well, you better see your possibility. I

love how beautiful ties in so well to confident and empowered because to feel beautiful, you need to feel confident and you need to feel all of yourself and all the things you're feeling right now are also

beautiful.

This discombobulated disconnection is a beautiful part of becoming a mother.

Yes.

So that will become a part of this beautiful you.

You look fantastic.

The boots are fantastic. The black jeans are fantastic. You always look insane in

are fantastic. You always look insane in denim because you have these jewel tone sapphire insane bang eyes. Do you have

any tips for anyone in Jesse's position?

Whether you're a new mom or you are coming out of a health diagnosis and your body's changed or you've just let yourself go and you're looking at a closet that has clothes that you now are

like, "Holy cow, I'm hiding."

Yeah.

Is there a way that you can without having to buy a whole wardrobe?

Yeah. use this method or a couple tricks that can help you lift up what you have.

I think especially in these untethered, you know, malle malleable body situations or even in times when you're in transition, um structure helps like so I I would

What does that mean structure?

Like you're not feeling in your body. So

you need pieces that hold you up. like

even these shoes that you chose that little bit of heel. You don't need to wear shoes with a baby that you can't walk in, but you can have a little thing that like helps you stand a little straighter. And I think like tailored

straighter. And I think like tailored elements like like um a lot of moms, they only, you know, wear the soft loose pieces and that doesn't help you feel put together.

That makes you feel more lost. So, um,

when you're ready to refine your waist, you can have things like waist centered pieces, but if you're not ready for that, find the collar, find the shoulder, you know, find remember like

even your jewelry, like this stuff matters. Like people don't don't wear

matters. Like people don't don't wear it. Um, and I I Yeah, I think those

it. Um, and I I Yeah, I think those crisp elements will ground you. Um, same

same way as your shoes. People always

feel great in good shoes. I think it's it's a good point.

And you have good shoes. always wear

boots.

Jesse, what did you get out of this six-word sentence and the just doing one morning of intentional dressing?

Oh my gosh, so much. Cuz I've, like I said, I've never looked at my clothes that way. I've never had emotion with my

that way. I've never had emotion with my clothes other than you come home and you feel like, oh, my pants were too tight today. But this was just the mental part

today. But this was just the mental part of it, the emotional part of it, the the confident side that I just I don't even look at with my clothes. But then you

can go through and start to fine tooth comb like actually that shirt does bring a little bit more than the other piece.

The other thing too, what you put on when you get home, don't put on that that like sloppy stuff that doesn't make you feel great. Get get an intentional change and then when you go to pick up your baby, you feel like soft and

beautiful still. It's not like all of a

beautiful still. It's not like all of a sudden because you get home you have to be scrappy mom. There's like great matching

scrappy mom. There's like great matching sets that are comfortable. Doesn't have

to be cashmere. It can be velour. It can

be cotton.

You want that part to feel great, too.

And you deserve to feel beautiful in that role, too.

That's beautiful. Thank you for that.

That's great advice.

It is.

Sets that stretch that aren't PJs or yoga pants.

Yep. And given that you have a [clears throat] daughter, and I have realized the hard way that my daughters have spent their life watching me look in the mirror and say, "I hate how

I look. I this looks like crap. Should I

I look. I this looks like crap. Should I

wear this? Should I wear that?" Cuz I'm thinking about dressing for the world or I'm thinking about, "Okay, what's going to look good?" I've never until meeting Aaron ever asked myself how I feel.

Yeah. I am directly responsible for their negative selft talk about their own bodies because as Sawyer said to me two years ago, I think you're the most beautiful

person in the world and if you think you look horrible, why would I ever believe you when you tell me I look good?

And so for you as a new mom to be able to shift your relationship with yourself and with how you get dressed and using

intention with how you feel, you have the chance to demonstrate to your daughter what it looks like to use clothing not as something you hide

behind or something that you're pretending to be someone else, but as an intentional tool. Mhm.

intentional tool. Mhm.

to bring out more of who you want to become. And that is

become. And that is amazingly cool. On those where you can't

amazingly cool. On those where you can't say the word beautiful, just remind yourself, well, if I can't do it for me, I need to lean into this for her because I'm committed as a mom.

Mhm.

To demonstrating something different.

Yep. I want to show up for her.

Amazing. And I hope you also show up for you.

Thank you.

I will, Jesse. I love you.

Jesse. I love you.

I love you.

Congratulations. Congratulations

everything. And I am so excited to see beautiful, confident, powerful Jesse walking into the studio here in Vermont.

[laughter] Yeah. In my boots. In your boots.

Yeah. In my boots. In your boots.

Thank you so much.

All right. We're going to bring on Amy next. So, we're going to have you switch

next. So, we're going to have you switch spots with Amy.

So, we have Amy, who is a senior producer on this podcast. You have been producing the show with me since episode one. We're on the floor of my closet

one. We're on the floor of my closet together.

Yes. And look where we are now.

Talking about clothes.

And it's perfect cuz you're also producing this episode.

Yes.

So, AM, I would love since you and I are in the same category, postmenopausal.

Postmenopausal.

Three kids. You still have one at home, but otherwise, you know, emptiness.

Yes. And I'll also say I have 17 extra pounds that I am not too excited about.

So, you know, menopause represent the women. Yes.

women. Yes.

are in the same boat. Yep.

Before you started producing this episode and learning about Aaron's intentional dressing method, how would you get dressed in the morning?

Literally, I'd probably dress like an 11-year-old boy. Like, whatever's clean,

11-year-old boy. Like, whatever's clean, whatever looks good, whatever, you know, my mom says is okay. Like, that's what I would do. It was like a low bar. It was

would do. It was like a low bar. It was

a really low bar.

What has happened for you as you've been producing this episode and you learned about these six words? How do I want to feel?

Yeah.

Like what happened this morning when you used this method? You paused, you asked yourself that question. What were the words that came up and how did it change things?

Right. Well, I will turn the clock back even further. When I was told I was

even further. When I was told I was going to produce this episode, I did not want to do it. I did not want to do it.

I am not a closed person. I am not a style person. Leave me alone, please.

style person. Leave me alone, please.

I'm just fine. I like my big ass underwear. Like, just don't I don't want

underwear. Like, just don't I don't want to hear about it.

There are some very good big ass underwear options for the record.

Some underwear that is 11 years old.

[laughter] Like, we need to go in there.

Not getting rid of it. But anyway, so I did not want to do this episode cuz I just felt like this wasn't me at all. I

just like, please don't bother me with this. I I

this. I I Oh, did Mel know you didn't want to do it?

No. Bill didn't ask me. [laughter]

No. So, but you know what? I think it's like it's a great challenge. So, I I took it on.

You said yes to the dress.

I said yes to [laughter] the dress. And

then I heard the question, how do I want to feel today? And I thought that is the dumbest question. I do not want to ask

dumbest question. I do not want to ask myself that because immediately your mind goes to how you don't want to feel.

I don't want to feel fat today. I don't

want to feel my boobs against my abdomen. Why is that even happening? I

abdomen. Why is that even happening? I

don't want to feel my arms not being able to get into my like jackets that I absolutely love. Like I went immediately

absolutely love. Like I went immediately to all the don'ts and I just was not a really crazy. This

is how so many women feel. Everything

that you're describing viscerally is why women in their closet when they go to get dressed start feeling bad about themselves and they're reminded of all the things on their body that they don't like or they make them feel ashamed or

that have changed and shifted and evolved. Mhm. I like I like the word

evolved. Mhm. I like I like the word evolved. I'll start using that now.

evolved. I'll start using that now.

That is the word.

I got to start using that. So, um Okay.

And then to fast forward to this morning when I had to seriously seriously do this assignment.

Yes. You were producing this [ __ ] I was producing this. I had to show up and I

producing this. I had to show up and I asked myself that question and I purposely didn't give it a lot of thought cuz I don't give my clothes a lot of thought. I did not not want to

think about this. So I came up with the three words. Uh I came up with uh I want

three words. Uh I came up with uh I want to be uh creative, empowered, and fun.

Okay, those were my three words. And

then I thought, well, now I'm screwed.

How do I make an outfit out of that? you

know. Um, and then I just started trying clothes on in my closet. And I had not tried clothes on in my closet for a long time.

Step one.

Yeah.

Try it on. Right. I went through five of my most beloved blazers. Oh, I love a good blazer. None of them fit me. I

good blazer. None of them fit me. I

couldn't even get my arms through. Like,

it was a really sad moment.

But somehow the power of the question was just like, well, let's move on because what are you gonna do, you know?

So, I did move on and I found a blazer that fit me and um I put my fun shoes on and I don't know, here I am. Will you

describe what you're wearing? Okay, so

I'm wearing a a blazer that has this kind of electric blue color and also some pops of red. It's double breasted.

I like it because I feel like it covers up the midsection area without looking like I'm really covering up that midsection area. Um, I'm wearing a white

midsection area. Um, I'm wearing a white ribbed long sleeve shirt underneath. I

love the texture on this shirt. I'm

wearing uh jeans like what are these?

Like straight leg kind of kind of boot cut trouser, high-waisted uh frontal pocket. That's what I'm wearing.

pocket. That's what I'm wearing.

[laughter] Yes. And I'm wearing a little Adidas like yellow and white sneakers.

I put with your little red belt, too.

And I put on a red belt, too. A very

slim red belt. I literally have two belts. One of them's red and slim. And I

belts. One of them's red and slim. And I

put it on.

Yeah.

I'm curious like now that you've done this exercise and you chose those three words and you tried on things and got really real with yourself.

Yes.

What do you like knowing what your days typically look like and and who [clears throat] you have to be and the roles you have to play every day.

If you had to guess tomorrow, and it might not be the case, but if you had to guess tomorrow, do you think you would be those three words or like what do you think?

Well, I think I would love to put this outfit on repeat like just like Jesse, like if it's work, you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it kind of thing. But

yes, I think I would like to use those words maybe again tomorrow, but more in a different way. Like I'm not coming to show to produce an episode tomorrow, but maybe with my family. I want to feel more empowered,

you know, like maybe show up in a different way that's more homebased.

And I would really love to explore what that looks like in my life.

Yeah. I think so. After you doing this exercise, you need to go back to your closet and try on every single thing in there. And then then you get rid of the

there. And then then you get rid of the [ __ ] that doesn't fit.

Yes.

Sorry. That's that's that's not it's making you feel bad about yourself.

I agree. And then I think you write the the um write like the script of your day with that pen of that doesn't work. It

doesn't fit. It doesn't look good.

And I need to like get another pen to write the script.

Get another notebook.

Another notebook. [laughter]

Yeah. Yeah. It feels really I mean this whole process feels very empowering. You

know, one of the things about you AIM is that I always look forward to seeing you because you always have on something really cool. like you wear a super cool

really cool. like you wear a super cool color or you have really amazing glasses on that are a unique color or you have really creative European like it's like

that European friend that's come back from some trip and she's wearing like what's your mercy your your your oh we my we sweatshirt

your we sweatshirt like she always has this creative flare so Amy You are

coming through a period of your life just like Jesse where the primary thing that you have been doing is caring for

your mom who died last year.

Mhm. And you have also been steering your family and your three adult daughters and navigating a lot of stuff

and your husband's an entrepreneur and you're the captain of the ship and you are also the senior producer of

this podcast in a massive role. And I'm wondering

given what chapter you've just been in, are there three words that represent how you want to feel in

this next chapter?

That is so juicy, Mel. I And I think it's very true. I I think it's great to ask how do you want to feel today? But

like how do you want to feel in this next chapter is a really exciting thing to think about.

Um right now I feel like they would be the same words. I love feeling creative and fun and I love feeling empowered and and you know that I can

energy.

Um so I love all of those words, but I also am excited to make space for new words. So thank you for saying that.

words. So thank you for saying that.

It's really true.

No, it is true. like you've gone you've you've navigated a lot of stuff.

Can I ask you a question?

Yeah.

If you dropped the word fun cuz you already are fun.

Okay.

Is there a word that you would be willing to experiment with that is more aligned with your gift of being a

channeler spiritually.

Oh, you are the most talented card puller I have ever met in my entire life. I swear

to God, if I ever launch another show, it will be a daily show where you pull a card and give the world guidance and you are absolutely magical and you're

already a fun person.

So, if we swap that out, is there a word that honors that gift in you? You know,

it's so funny, Mel. You actually said it. Magic is one of my most favorite

it. Magic is one of my most favorite words ever. I just love that word. I

words ever. I just love that word. I

would never think to say that in the morning, but yeah. Like what if I said I'm I want to feel empowered.

I want to feel creative and I want to feel magical.

Yeah.

Wow. That would be a great outfit.

Amazing.

That's the supernova. That's That's very cool.

Oh, I love that.

I love that.

And that's [clears throat] a new chapter word. That's that's a chapter a new

word. That's that's a chapter a new chapter word. Cuz now you're

chapter word. Cuz now you're intentionally not only saying that's how you want to feel, but you are also simultaneously inviting it in and using your clothes.

Yes.

As a tool.

Yeah. To make that happen.

Yes.

I love that that word though because that's what I want everybody watching and listening to take away from this.

It's that remembering and refinding and rediscovering of your magic because it's in all of us. And so that is definitely in your next chapter and I'm very excited.

Awesome. So good. So great.

Thank you.

We got to get that show launched, too.

All right, let's bring in Cindy.

Cindy, Mel, [laughter] I love you. Um,

love you back.

You are an incredible member of this team. You are a grandmother. You are

team. You are a grandmother. You are

also a breast cancer survivor.

Yeah.

And you just had your knee replaced.

I did. And I am so excited to hear how learning and trying this intentional dressing method from Aaron Walsh worked

for you. But let's start with how would

for you. But let's start with how would you normally get dressed?

Well, let's see. I wear my pajamas until 9:00 now because I'm retired. I get up.

I have my cup of coffee.

You retired. You You work for me. What

are you talking about? [laughter] I'm

sorry. I retired after Vermont and then I worked again. My job is very flexible.

When I came up here and I did retire for about a year, all my city clothes were were gone. I wasn't going to ever use

were gone. I wasn't going to ever use them again. So, I needed a new wardrobe

them again. So, I needed a new wardrobe that was going to work for my daily routine and my needs. So, I get up, I have fun when I look at my closet and what I'm going to wear, but it's

limited. I basically live in leggings

limited. I basically live in leggings and jeans and I have one pair of corduroy pants for the winter. And I

like bright colors for the most part. I

like sweaters in the winter. Um, so it's just like what's today going to be?

So, especially coming out of surgery and that recent diagnosis last year of breast cancer, how did going through two

big physical things with your body change the way that you relate to your body and to dressing?

Well, I mean, it wasn't easy. You know,

I went through nine months of treatment.

You know, I had a lumpctomy, then I had chemotherapy. I lost all my hair. But

chemotherapy. I lost all my hair. But

the one thing I did was every time I went to chemo, I'm a pink person as you can see. I wear pink. Tell us about your

can see. I wear pink. Tell us about your outfit.

So I am wearing a pink vest that before Aaron I would only wear in the fall or the you know the late spring. I would

never wear it in the winter. And then I thought today after thinking about what you were suggesting to us, well I can wear it in the winter under my heavy coat and it will look cute in the winter. So I went for my leggings. I

winter. So I went for my leggings. I

went for the love the t-shirt. I wear J Crew t-shirts all the time. and the pink vest under my winter coat and I can wear it 12 months a year now rather than just two seasons.

I just want to add that it's not just any pink color. It's like the most vibrant shocking electric delicious pink fuchsia ever and it matches your gorgeous lipstick and the canvas you

have underneath is entirely black. Black

leggings, black t-shirt, and your socks.

Can you tell us what they say, please?

Cuz I'm very much like the I'm too old for this [ __ ] [laughter] not for this, but anyway, they were given to me by someone very special and so they're they mean a lot to me. So, I

wore them today and sometimes I feel that way. I'm obviously older than, you

that way. I'm obviously older than, you know, the other team members here and sometimes I feel that. But now getting up and getting my clothes will not be an ordeal. It will be fun and um fun is

ordeal. It will be fun and um fun is important part of life and you you need it.

What were your three words when you asked yourself how do I want to feel?

Bold and empowered and confident. And

bold is I dress bold. I got black and pink. Love it.

pink. Love it.

And empowered is just to make me feel that I'm accomplishing something. I'm

going to have a good day. And confident.

I'm confident in the way I look and I want to feel that way. You getting back to the cancer when I had that and I lost all my hair. It was tough. Dressing

really didn't make me happy because I was looking in the mirror for seven months with a bald head. It was it was difficult. But on other days, I got up

difficult. But on other days, I got up and I said, "Well, let's put on something fun and put a cute hat." It

was the winter, so I got to wear skitter hats and that made it easier for me. And

then it took 5 months for my hair to grow back. And finally when it did, I

grow back. And finally when it did, I got over the hump. But dressing just it.

It's an important part of life. And now

with this advice from Aaron, going through health issues, if I ever had to going forward, hopefully I don't, I will look at my clothes in a different way.

and it will bring happiness to me um in a time it's tough. I think it's a really good lesson.

Can I ask you a question because I love your lipstick?

I'm wearing two colors.

Oh, fabulous. [laughter]

Um did when you didn't have your hair, would you still Yes, I wore it to chemo.

I love it.

I wore I did my nails and my lipstick and my pink skitter hat.

It sounds like you already have an intentional relationship with the things that might be uplifting. You

do. I do, but I always I always wore lipstick and and I wasn't going to go into chemo, sorry, looking drawn and like [ __ ] I mean, it's bad enough to sit there and feel like [ __ ] I want to

at least have lipstick on and color.

I feel like you're already like embodying this method. She [laughter]

already knew knew all the hacks.

No, but I didn't know how to look at my closet in a way that um made it not boring. As I said, I don't have a lot of

boring. As I said, I don't have a lot of clothes and I wear the same things, but I mix and match. Now with your advice, I can do this with that and it's just going to go a lot further what I have.

Yeah.

Don't you love it? Cuz you were concerned when I asked you to be part of this episode. You're like, I got a

this episode. You're like, I got a closet full of L's end like do I have to buy something? What's happening?

buy something? What's happening?

I know. It's

And isn't it nice J Crew? And it is because it just look you look at things a different way now and it sets you up for a great day.

I noticed you have something next to you. What do you What What do you got?

you. What do you What What do you got?

Well, after that cute Spencer left, I was thinking about what we did. That's

one of our team members that filmed you in your closet. She was wonderful. It took 20

closet. She was wonderful. It took 20 takes, but we got it done.

I thought, well, this is in my closet, too. So, and this isn't clothing, but

too. So, and this isn't clothing, but maybe I should wear my pearls more than just at night.

I'm so [ __ ] I mean, why can't I just say that to go out at night? These are pearls that mean a lot to me. My kids gave them for me my 65th birthday. So, thank you.

65th birthday. So, thank you.

I'm going to be wearing them when I come over here to get the dogs. How about

that? I love it. That's so great.

But I wouldn't have thought about it if pull over your now. Now, let's talk. You

look very bold. Very confident. Erin can

probably put them on for you. I can.

Could you? I love them. But I don't wear them enough. But now every day,

them enough. But now every day, I'm not going to hesitate. I'm going to wear them during the day. Why not?

This is like it it's a it's an endorphin boost. It just offers a little bit of It

boost. It just offers a little bit of It does. But I pass I don't think twice

does. But I pass I don't think twice about it until today.

Pearls. You know what, too? So pink is divine feminine color like like owning that pearls are divine feminine jewelry.

Got that energy throwing that out there.

So is there anything else about this method that you want to say?

Yes. It's so simple and it's something that all of us can do but we don't have the knowledge to think that way. You

gave us that intuition now to think okay this is what I'm going to do in the morning. It's going to be fun and it's

morning. It's going to be fun and it's not just another blah day of getting dressed. And I don't care if you're

dressed. And I don't care if you're going out to lunch, if you're going to work, if you're going to a funeral, you have to put pride in what you're wearing and get some joy out of it. And but

people, we don't think that because we get up and do the same thing every day.

We get dressed. Now, the underwear, I don't know.

I don't know the underwear. I'm not

going to get me for Christmas.

[laughter] You know, my underwear But anyway, what about your underwear?

My underwear, [laughter] I got some of those big ones that Amy mentioned, too. [laughter]

mentioned, too. [laughter] My god.

Anyway, I don't spend a lot of money on underwear. Let's put it that way.

underwear. Let's put it that way.

It's okay. It's not about the money.

It's about the intentions.

You know, the intentions, but I I thought I'd have my if look on the outside and see what I what I've invested in. [laughter]

invested in. [laughter] I love it.

But anyway, I think this is just it's a wonderful idea and it it it just can resonate with all of us. And so many people that are going to listen to this episode are going to come away and just

feel good and feel fun and wait to go to sleep and wake up the next morning and go to their closets. It's just it's great. It's just super

great. It's just super super. You're super.

super. You're super.

Thank you.

And you're bold.

This is fun.

And you're confident. And you're

empowered. [laughter]

You're amazing.

Oh, thank you. Well, you are. This is

great.

Would it be weird if I bought you new underwear?

[laughter] Do I have to tell you my size?

I think I might get written up by HR if I bought [laughter] everybody new underwear on the team.

So, we do have a lot of listeners around the world because this podcast, one of the magical things about it is it's intergenerational and the power of it is that people share

it with people in their lives. And someone

will hear this who may be in their 20s who will share this with their grandmother or great-g grandandmother or their favorite aunt.

And so could you speak to the woman Aaron or Cindy sitting next to you who is

60, 70, 80 about how to think about underwear? I know it's a weird question,

underwear? I know it's a weird question, but I just feel like I don't want to step over that because it is the first thing you put

on. And I know so many people are going

on. And I know so many people are going to be sharing this both to their adult kids up to the grandmas. And there's

something really important about this.

Yeah. And it's foundational like actionably and actively. Um I would say like she's not looking so bold right now. [laughter] Like, are we really

now. [laughter] Like, are we really talking about my underwear?

I think like we have such a hesitation to like get real with our bodies. And

maybe because when you get intentional about that, you're getting intentional with your parts that maybe you don't feel connected to anymore. Especially as

we get older, our bodies change and we just don't look at those things anymore.

So, when you get intentional about your underwear at whatever age, it's it's just a motion of honoring yourself and your potential. Again, it's a ritual to

your potential. Again, it's a ritual to decide that you matter, even in a small way. And as we know, as you do one thing

way. And as we know, as you do one thing is the way you do all things. So, like,

get intentional about that, too. It's

not that hard, guys. It's

I'm seeing high-waisted hot pink lace underneath those black tights, Cindy.

That's what I'm seeing.

You got them from coming from Mel, right? That's what I'm seeing.

right? That's what I'm seeing.

Pretty pretty.

You can find that on Amazon.

Pink underwear. That would be so pretty.

I never thought of that, but now that's more advice. It would be I get excited

more advice. It would be I get excited before I go into my closet. I'll go into my drawer to get my pink underwear out, maybe my pink bra, and then put on a nice outfit. It's a whole new day.

nice outfit. It's a whole new day.

All bets are off. [laughter] That's

amazing.

Oh, we learned. So, this is just great.

I mean really, I know I'm just kind of giggling here, but it's really it's interesting and it resonates and it's going to resonate with so many else people that listen to this because you're right when you said it's it's

underneath and we all start with getting dressed with nothing on and our underneath should be as you know to us mean as much to us as what we wear going on the outside.

Totally.

Yes, it's a good point. But no one's told me that before.

I think it's like we skip over the things we're uncomfortable with always.

So, if you kind of refuse to do that, it sets you up for a deeper understanding of yourself and right all the ways.

I can't wait to see your pink underwear.

Oh, [laughter] me too. Going to be amazing, Cindy. You're amazing.

amazing, Cindy. You're amazing.

Thank you. Thank you. This team is amazing. Everybody's amazing. This is

amazing. Everybody's amazing. This is

amazing.

Erin, what I find so incredible about this way of getting dressed and asking yourself, "How do I want to feel?" is

how deep it cuts, how simple it is, how it flips something that you've done your entire life on its head. You do it a completely

different way. And you just heard from

different way. And you just heard from three women in very different stages of their life who used your method and had shocking revelations.

Yeah.

About themselves, their body, the way that clothing can be a tool. I think

we're all so much smarter and so much more intuitive than we give ourselves credit for. So, it's asking yourself the

credit for. So, it's asking yourself the question, how do I want to feel? It just

makes everything possible because it opens you up to yourself. The the good, the bad, the there's not a bad, but like the uncomfortable, the challenging, the

raw, because all of those inform your possibility, too. And it's only in

possibility, too. And it's only in getting familiar with those that you can see what what your potential is. And

like whether that's wanting to feel more beautiful or more empowered or more more period, you know, like we all deserve

that. What I was very struck by during

that. What I was very struck by during our conversation today was how when you ask yourself that question, how do I want to feel? and you come up with your

three words that as you do this more and more, you're probably going to recognize that

you've put a lid on what's possible.

Yeah. and that there's some other part of you, whether it's magic or it's feeling beautiful or it's being more

bold or it's feeling confident in your own skin or feeling powerful at work.

Yeah.

That you're going to learn to allow yourself to open the door to that as a possibility. I you know my friend I I

possibility. I you know my friend I I told you this my friend Laura Brown and Christine O'Neal they they wrote a book because they both got fired from their fancy jobs and it's called All the Cool

Girls Get Fired and Laura told me this metaphor about um she said you know like we we all had like we are sitting in the sandbox with our friends. We're all

playing with our tools that feel comfortable and you know it's it's all pretty great and that's our box and we love it and then all of a sudden you look up and you realize your sandbox is on the beach. like we make our own boxes

of what's possible without thinking of everything else that is possible. And

that can be very comfortable and certainly feel safe, but I I know and I I believe we're here for more. Well,

here's what I want you to do. In

addition to you sharing this with every woman in your life, and I think you can share this with the men in your life, too. I want if you try this for you to

too. I want if you try this for you to take a photo of what you put on your body after you asked yourself these six incredible words. How do I want to feel?

incredible words. How do I want to feel?

And post it and tell us what your three words are and tag the Mel Robbins podcast and tag Aaron Walsh and we will find you and cheer for you and celebrate you. I want to hear how

this worked for you. And if you do this with your sisters or your roommates or your mom or your grandma, I want to see a photo of both of you. Aaron Walsh,

what are your parting words? What I

think people will find, and I know we have found together, and I have certainly found this in all the years I've been doing this, um, it's not about the close, it's about your possibility.

Say yes to your potential. Say yes to being magical. say yes to

being magical. say yes to being the person that you've always dreamed of becoming.

Well, Aaron Walsh, thank you for giving us the key to unlocking this door of possibility and forever changing the drama and the headache and the trauma

that we all experience in our closets and when we get dressed. It is simple, but I will go on the record and say you will be startled by how deep and

profound this hits you, how it changes you, how getting rid of things suddenly don't feel difficult or hard, because it's no longer aligned with the

possibility that you see for yourself.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

You're incredible. So are you.

You're so incredible. And I also want to thank you. Thank you for spending time

thank you. Thank you for spending time and making time listening to something that will fundamentally change your life. I truly believe when you try this

life. I truly believe when you try this and you ask yourself these six words and you pick your three words for the day.

How do I want to feel? I want to feel bold. I want to feel beautiful. I want

bold. I want to feel beautiful. I want

to feel confident. I want to feel empowered. I want to feel magical.

empowered. I want to feel magical.

Whatever your words are, your clothes suddenly become a tool to help you embody that and feel it. And so, thank you for investing this time in yourself.

Thank you for sharing this with everybody that you love and that you care about. I can't wait to see what you

care about. I can't wait to see what you pick out of your closet and put on your body that help you feel the way that you deserve. And in case no one else tells

deserve. And in case no one else tells you today, I wanted to be sure to tell you as your friend that I love you and I believe in you and I believe in your ability to create a better life. And

part of that is reaching for and trying the tools that people like Aaron are teaching to you. There is no doubt in my mind that when you start to embody the way that you want to feel, you start to

dress the way that you want to feel, you will feel like that person and you will watch yourself become that person. All

righty. I'll see you in the very next episode. I'm going to welcome you in the

episode. I'm going to welcome you in the moment you hit play. Thank you for watching all the way to the end. I am so excited to see what happens in your life and what happens in the lives of

everybody that you share this with. I I

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