7 Interview Martin Raubal
By Spatial Computing
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Cognitive Engineering for Geospatial Tools**: My group focuses on bringing cognitive aspects into the design of geospatial services and tools. We use a mobile eye tracking lab to study gaze patterns in the field during wayfinding with mobile devices. [00:28], [00:50] - **GIS for Renewable Energy Planning**: We use geographic information systems for energy types like planning wind parks connected to the energy network via transmission line planning with multicriteria decision analysis. We also tackle spatial-temporal optimization for locating biomass power plants. [01:14], [01:36] - **Accidental Path to GIS from Surveying**: After high school, I wanted to study law but took a vacation job at a local surveying office and switched to surveying engineering one week before semester. Later, as a teaching assistant, Professor Andrew Frank started the GIS program in Vienna, leading me into GIS, a master's in the US, and a PhD. [01:58], [02:30] - **Navigation is the Killer App**: Location-based services always talked about a killer application, but it's already there: navigation systems. They have gone mainstream and brought new ideas into spatial computing. [03:25], [03:44] - **Location-Aware Mobile Eye Tracking**: We built a mobile eye tracking lab to uncover why people make wayfinding errors by combining gaze patterns with location data. This reveals when people look at landmarks, devices, or struggle at complex decision points, automatically detecting if they're lost or disoriented. [05:09], [05:40]
Topics Covered
- GIS optimizes renewable energy infrastructure
- Navigation is spatial computing's killer app
- Mobile eye-tracking reveals wayfinding cognition
Full Transcript
okay folks uh continuing our series of interviews here I'm here with uh Martin rbau who is a professor of geoinformation engineering at eth zor in
Switzerland one of the best universities in all of Europe hi Martin how you doing doing great Hi Brent so I have a a list of questions for you here as uh you know
and the first question I'm going to ask you is uh just to uh explain do everyone your research interests okay so basically uh in my
group we focus on on uh you know two research issues the one has deals with cognitive engineering for geographic information science so basically uh
bringing cognitive aspects uh into the design of of geospatial services and tools and uh we also have a mobile eye tracking lab uh that is uh you know most
people know static eye trackers that uh basically where you can um you know get sequences of gase patterns and uh we're doing this research with a mobile ey tracker so that means that we can go out
into into the field and really find out you know what is going on when people are trying to solve their wave finding problems when they interact with moob with mobile devices and that provides
feedback to the design of these tools the second area is actually how to use geographic information systems for um energy for typ types of energy meaning
that you know if you do renewable energy planning you create the new wind Park that has to be connected to the energy Network so we do transmission line planning there uh in terms of a
multicriteria decision analysis and we also focus on spatial temporal optimization problems how to locate biomass power plants Etc okay so the
second question I had was um can you tell me a bit about how you began working in um the spatial Computing or the geographic information area well I have to start a little bit
earlier there because when I I graduated from high school I actually wanted to study law and uh in the vacation before
starting the study I was trying to find a job um to pay for my travels and uh so I got a job at the survey the local surveying office and this is how I you
know became familiar with surveying engineering and uh I think one week before the semester started I decided to study surveying engineering
and uh then when I did that actually I became a teaching assistant and there was the time when my professor Andrew Frank came to Vienna and started the gis program and this is how I ended up uh in
GIS you know went to the US for a master's degree did a PhD in information and that's how I got into the area of spatial things spatial engineering
spatial Computing you have one of my favorite um stories about finding uh finding spatial computing
um okay so what do you think has been the most important new technology or research paper in the spatial Computing area in the past few
years um that's a difficult question I I wouldn't want to limit myself to naming one particular thing uh because you know when they came up with location based Services they were always talking about
the killer application and I was always wondering why are you looking for the killer application it's already there it's navigation systems so um last couple of years I would still say that
location based Services is really something that um has you know brought some new ideas into the spatial
Computing area and uh it it actually already went mainstream but uh in terms of uh of the the progress and development there in the area I think
it's some of the new interaction modes that fascinate me so it's You Know audio instructions it's just interacting with various tools with this system and this
whole area that you are quite familiar with the geci you know this integration of geospatial stuff as we name it and human computer interaction well Martin
you've given a great um preview of uh module seven of the course we'll be dedicating a whole module to Geographic human computer interaction so thank you
I'll pay you later um okay next up um I was wondering if you could talk a bit about the project you're working on right now that has you
um particularly excited yeah um I started my job here about three and a half years ago and uh you know I always worked in the area of
spatial cognition and wave finding and one particular problem there was um if we wanted to find out where people make wave finding errors there were certain methods that you could apply like you
know watching people measuring some kind of stuff but we never so it was always the question where did people have problems but we never could get to the
question of why people had these problems so my idea was to come up with that mobile eye tracking lab here at eth surich and I think that uh actually is
very exciting for me and for my group because that gives us some ideas about why do have PE why do people have problems during interaction with mobile systems or during wave finding so uh and
we combined that with location functionality so we actually call it location aware mobile ey tracking because at the same time when we know where people are looking at we know
where they are and uh we know when they look at like landmarks during wave finding when they look at their mobile device when they need help when a decision point is very complex and we
can get a lot of this information just from the gase patterns alone so by looking at the gase patterns we can automatically find out whether people are lost whether they have problems with
orientation with finding landmarks and so on so this whole map matching process and I think uh mobile it tracking brought really A New Perspective into my research which I am quite excited about
yeah some of that work coming out of your group is is really quite impressive um the the paper at the workshop last year I I very much enjoyed well thank you Martin for your time you're welcome
brand it's nice talking to you
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