7 Levels of Finance Jobs From a Fintech CEO | Tom Sosnoff
By Tom Sosnoff
Summary
Topics Covered
- Escape Pawn Grind Early
- Prove Analytics Beyond Client Work
- Revenue Beats Technical Expertise
- Leadership Trumps Individual Production
- Ownership Builds True Wealth
Full Transcript
I'm going to show you how to go from a $50,000 a year job to a $500,000 a year job. My team of engineers and quants
job. My team of engineers and quants have spent the last year programming a model to research exactly what skills you need to be paid as much as possible.
I'm Tom Sausnoff. I started my career in the early 80s at Drexel Burnham in New York City at a $30,000 a year entry-level job before moving on to trading options and worked my way to
founding two fintech companies each worth over a billion dollars. These are
the seven compensation levels of jobs that I've personally seen as a finance veteran. Level one, the pawn. Welcome to
veteran. Level one, the pawn. Welcome to
the grind. Salary range $40,000 to $65,000 a year. These are your finance clerks, bank clerks, loan servicing specialists. These roles have one thing
specialists. These roles have one thing in common: high volume, low leverage, and little to no long-term upside. Most
of the people in these roles are fresh out of college and just looking to get a foot in the door. They have little expertise other than showing up and following orders. The hours are
following orders. The hours are reasonable, 40 to 45 hours a week. None
of this sounds too bad. That is until you find out that there's a ceiling on how much value you can create in this role. You're processing 200 loan
role. You're processing 200 loan payments a day or handling customer complaints. The work is necessary.
complaints. The work is necessary.
Finance can't function without it, but it's replaceable and it's reflected in your salary. But if you're in this role,
your salary. But if you're in this role, do not lose hope as moving from level one to level two is actually one of the easiest jumps in finance. You need two to three years of experience, maybe a
certification and the ability to interact with clients or demonstrate some analytical thinking. The hard part isn't the jump itself. It's that many people stay here for a decade because they don't realize they're on a track
that goes to nowhere. In your first couple of years when you're networking or whatever you're doing, if you have any opportunity at all, jump all over it. Everybody has these chances and most
it. Everybody has these chances and most people don't take them. With me
personally, I only lasted six or seven months on an entry level before somebody said to me, "Hey, you want to move to Chicago?" And I'm like, "Done." Level
Chicago?" And I'm like, "Done." Level
two, the night. Now you're a personal banker at the 70 to $95,000 range. A
loan officer, a financial adviser, associate, a banking analyst. You're the
first person who gets to touch client money and make recommendations. This is
where finance actually begins. You need
sales ability, relationship management, basic financial analysis. You're having
conversations about people's mortgages, their retirement accounts, their business loans. The stakes are much
business loans. The stakes are much higher now, and the hours somewhat reflect that. 45, 50 hours, maybe still
reflect that. 45, 50 hours, maybe still relatively balanced, but you've got clients calls at night, weekend events for networking. But this increased work
for networking. But this increased work is incentivized. You start receiving
is incentivized. You start receiving incentive pay. Base plus commissions,
incentive pay. Base plus commissions, base plus bonus. Your income isn't just your salary anymore. It's tied to your performance. This is great, but you now
performance. This is great, but you now have made it to the real filter. To move
from level two to level three, you need to prove you can do more than client-f facing work. You need analytical chops.
facing work. You need analytical chops.
You need to understand financial modeling. Many people plateau here. They
modeling. Many people plateau here. They
become career professional bankers or loan officers, and that's fine, but they're capped around that $100,000 level unless they move up. One of the nice things about interacting with people that either have a lot of money
or decent positions is that you have an opportunity to impress them. Level
three, the bishop. You're a corporate financial analyst, a risk analyst, a compliance analyst, or a business banking officer with a salary of, let's say, 85,000 to 120,000. You move from client interaction to technical
expertise. You're the person building
expertise. You're the person building the models, evaluating the risk, ensuring regulatory compliance, pitching the insurance policies. You become
advanced in Excel and financial modeling. If you're in risk management,
modeling. If you're in risk management, you're modeling value at risk and stress scenarios. You're expected to work 50 to
scenarios. You're expected to work 50 to 55 hours, sometimes more during those closed periods of an audit season.
You're expected to produce highquality work consistently. Mistakes at this
work consistently. Mistakes at this level cost money, and your budget could miscalculate millions. But a corporate
miscalculate millions. But a corporate financial analyst making 115 grand in Chicago is a good life. And that is why many people get stuck at this level. The
work is standardized. You're really good at it, but so are thousands of other people. to break through to the next
people. to break through to the next level, you need to specialize even further or you need to start generating revenue. And that requires a jump deep
revenue. And that requires a jump deep into specialization. I think at this
into specialization. I think at this level, sometimes you run into research specialists, certain kinds of quants, data scientists, people that have a fairly unique skill set that are
incredibly bright, but they get a little awkward about the next step. They're
more than capable, but they get a little uncomfortable. Level four, the rook. Now
uncomfortable. Level four, the rook. Now
you're a power player. You're an equity research analyst covering specific sectors. Salaries could range between
sectors. Salaries could range between 110,000 to 150,000. An investment
analyst evaluating funds. A financial
engineer building quantitative pricing tools. A treasury analyst managing
tools. A treasury analyst managing corporate liquidity. You're not just
corporate liquidity. You're not just competent. You're one of the best in
competent. You're one of the best in your specific domain. Equity research
analysts need to understand industries better than the companies themselves.
Quants need advanced mathematics and programming skills. Financial engineers
programming skills. Financial engineers need to build tools that can price complex derivatives accurately. And this
skill doesn't happen by accident. You're
working 50 to 65 hours. If you're in equity research, you're working weekends and before earning season. If you're a quant, you're debugging models at midnight. The intensity is real and it's
midnight. The intensity is real and it's reflected in the salary. A financial
engineer tops out at 150 plus because the technical skills command a premium.
You've carved out a valuable niche.
You're hard to replace, but there's a ceiling. you're still supporting revenue
ceiling. you're still supporting revenue generators, the traders, the bankers, the portfolio managers. They're using
your research, your models, your analysis to make money. What I've
experienced in the past is that people that come from that technical mode don't realize how hard it is to sell and they don't realize how hard it is to create revenue. I found over the years that
revenue. I found over the years that creating revenue is the biggest challenge. These are the hardest people
challenge. These are the hardest people to find. And not because they're the
to find. And not because they're the smartest, not because they're the most analytical, just because they have an a certain skill set, a certain knack for closing. Level five, the queen. This is
closing. Level five, the queen. This is
where everything changes. You're an
option trader tied to P&L. You're an
investment banker doing M&A deals.
You're a portfolio manager managing assets. Average salary could range from
assets. Average salary could range from 130,000 to 230,000. Every single role at this level is judged by one metric. How
much money did you make or manage?
Investment bankers need technical skills, sure, but they also need the ability with clients to close deals.
Portfolio managers need to generate alpha. You work all the time, 60, 70
alpha. You work all the time, 60, 70 hours a week, possibly, sometimes 100 hour weeks during live deals. Trading
might be 50 hours of market time, but require constant monitoring. The
compensation structure changes completely at this level. An investment
banker might have a $140,000 base, but make 210,000 with bonuses in a good year. A portfolio manager is the same.
year. A portfolio manager is the same.
When you're managing half a billion dollars and making 220 plus options, but the pressure is immense. One bad quarter and your bonus disappears. One lost
client and your book shrinks. The jump
from level five to level six isn't about working harder. It's about leading teams
working harder. It's about leading teams and managing other producers. Many
people at level five never want to move up because they'd rather stay close to the action than manage people. Level
six, the king's guard. You're a finance director leading an entire finance function. A riskmanagement director
function. A riskmanagement director overseeing enterprise risk. Salary range
180 to 280,000. You've made it to leadership. You're no longer doing the
leadership. You're no longer doing the work. You're directing it. You need to
work. You're directing it. You need to manage teams of analysts, underwriters, and producers. You need to set strategy,
and producers. You need to set strategy, allocate resources, and take responsibility for outcomes. You work
maybe less than 55 to 65 hours, but the cognitive load is heavier. You're in
back-to-back meetings making high stakes decisions, managing up to executives and down to your teams. A corporate controller at 260,000 has a major responsibility. But notice, even at the
responsibility. But notice, even at the high end, you're not breaking 300K unless you're at a massive institution.
You've made it to senior leadership. You
have influence, respect, a team, and a real strategic responsibility, but you're still an employee. You don't own equity. You don't have carried interest.
equity. You don't have carried interest.
You're well compensated for your labor, but you're not building wealth. And this
is where the final jump to level seven happens. You have to stop being an
happens. You have to stop being an employee and become an owner. When we
think about people at level seven, you need smarts and you need the ability to lead. It's not a role for people that
lead. It's not a role for people that are necessarily operational in nature.
It's more a role for people that have leadership skills. The assumption here
leadership skills. The assumption here is everybody's smart, but I like smart with leadership skills for that role more than smart with operational skills.
Level seven, the king. You're a VC or a hedge fund manager earning carried interest on billions. Or like me, you're a fintech CEO. Salary range could be 250 to 500 plus. You're not just managing
money. You're deploying capital in ways
money. You're deploying capital in ways that generate outsized returns. You need
vision. You need risk tolerance. You
need the ability to see opportunities others miss. This job has become your
others miss. This job has become your life. You work when you need to work.
life. You work when you need to work.
Some weeks it's 40 hours. Some weeks
it's 100 hours. Hedge fund managers earn two and 20. 2% management fees and 20% of profits. Private equity has carried
of profits. Private equity has carried interest. Prop traders keep a percentage
interest. Prop traders keep a percentage of their P&L. When you're managing a billion, 2% is 20 million in fees alone.
You're no longer an employee. You're not
paid for your time or even your performance. You're paid for your
performance. You're paid for your capital leverage. This is where your
capital leverage. This is where your wealth is actually built in finance.
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