AI-First Playbook: Do a Team's Work With AI (2026) | Peter Yang

It almost feels like cheating.

I fear that I'm getting dumber and and lazier. Like if I'm on a flight and

lazier. Like if I'm on a flight and there's no like internet connection like that, I just don't feel like working anymore.

That's Peter Yang. He spent a decade building products at Reddit, Meta, and Roblox. Now he runs a newsletter for

Roblox. Now he runs a newsletter for 140,000 people with no team. Almost all

of it through AI.

Unlike like a employee is never going to leave you.

And it's only getting exponentially better.

Last 10% you got to add your human touch to it. You don't have to be a creator to

to it. You don't have to be a creator to make this. I see a lot of creators they

make this. I see a lot of creators they they like to get AI to generate like 10 posts per hour and like the slop goes viral. This dish is heartening

viral. This dish is heartening for someone who's trying to stay ahead in this AI era. What should they be doing?

So step number one is use codeex or clock code. And step two is to

clock code. And step two is to So I really wanted to make this podcast practical for everyone who's watching.

There is something that's going on in AI right now that everyone is talking about is self-improving. And you recently

is self-improving. And you recently built cause self-improving skills and the whole narrative is like stop prompting your AI make it figure out

what to do next. Can you talk about that and is self-improving a reality for people who are just using AI versus researchers?

Yeah, there's like different ways to do it. I think uh first of all like you

it. I think uh first of all like you know I think all your audience knows the skill is just like a text file with a bunch of instructions, right? And yeah,

I have skills for making my podcast for editing my newsletter post and so on.

most basic way to do a self-improvement is after you use the scale and you have a back and forth conversation with the AI because it never gets it right in one one shot then you just say like hey based on our conversation can you please

update the scale to account for you know to try to get to it in one shot faster right and then it'll make a bunch of changes and you should review it and then hopefully you'll do it better the next next time

when I integrated AI into every part of my work it almost feels like cheating and a year before that you said you were drowning in meetings and projects What are the top three things that you

deployed in this year that dramatically changed how productive you are?

So I I can talk about my creative work since we're both creators and uh you know being a creator is like a lot of repetitive work, right? Like a lot of repetitive copy and pasting back and forth and like changing things from like

a newsletter post to like uh like YouTube description to like social post.

There's like a lot of kind of like different formats and I I I just decided to spend one day like just like you know no meetings and just sat down with codeex and be like hey I I basically just brain dumped all my workflows to

codeex and here's how I do it manually and I use this thing called whisper flow just like bringing up right through my voice. So there's like a couple major

voice. So there's like a couple major ones like uh you know prepping the podcast post-production. There's editing

podcast post-production. There's editing my newsletter posts. There's posting to the various social media platforms. And then another one is just like setting up a advisor to kind of give me like business advice like checking ideas.

Is it like an agent that's running or is it's just like a scale that's linked to a Google doc file that has like a bunch of personal information about my business and then kind of gives me advice.

Uh talk to me about uh posting on different platforms. How does it work?

Do you dictate something with your voice or does it see what kind of videos you produce and repurposes them?

Uh I have some like uh crown jobs which is basically like you know like this morning briefings weekly reports that send me how like other channels are doing what kind of videos are popular.

Now I post to social media platforms through codeex directly. Before I was using this tool called Typefully, these like social media tools, but like some of the platforms I post to like Substack Notes, they don't have any

kind of like API in integrations, right?

So I I just told Codz, hey, I I I I want to schedule post Substack notes. Can you

help me figure it out? And then it went to the browser and it sniffed out some internal APIs that they're using to post.

So it sniffed out internal APIs and then but it could also do computer use, right?

It it can also do computers. Yeah. So it

can do both. But now but now I can post to like four platforms. composed to X LinkedIn threads and uh subsc in in in the skill it has like some nuances like for example on X you want

to tag the person that you interviewed right you want to find the handle but on LinkedIn you cannot really tag it's kind of hard to tag so like I I kind of just bring dump it all the codeex and now you can actually do the tweaks for for me

so it kind of saves me a lot of time do you get the final approval before it posts or it just goes ahead and post by itself I still draft it I don't just get it to generate copy to post So I I still I I

just like you know use whisper flow and bring bring dump some random thing into codeex.

So you talk to it, it takes your voice and just like creates different social media posts.

It creates different social media posts.

It also has my you know uh examples of posts that I've done that have gone really viral.

So it can help me like uh clean out my brain dump into like a more polished post. Yeah.

post. Yeah.

And then I'll take a look and be like okay go post it to all four platforms. Does it have access to your analytics to assess what's going on right now?

Uh it does. Yes, it has access to analytics from various platforms and also Typefully the the thing I use also has analytics. So, it did some analysis.

has analytics. So, it did some analysis.

Like for example, it found that uh on LinkedIn, I don't know if it's G or not, but like if you just do a post with a bunch of links to all your tutorials and stuff, it tends to do better than if you do a single one.

So, I I I had no idea about that. So,

I'm going to do more of that now.

What about newsletter? Is it the same process where you talk about what you want to have in your newsletter and it creates it?

Newsletter depends on what kind of post I'm making. So, for example, like um I

I'm making. So, for example, like um I think by the time this goes out, I have published a post about why I'm leaving my job. So, that one I just kind of like

my job. So, that one I just kind of like went on a walk and kind of dictated to Whisper Flor's voice tools and and kind of just like brain dumped my real thoughts and Codex direct into Codex.

No, no. Um I could do it to Codex, but I I use this tool called uh like Super Whisper that records like 10 minutes of my brain dump and then I copy and paste the whole thing into Codex cuz Codex I'm just worried like if I dictate for 10

minutes, Codex will get confused. that

that's my worry, too. Or something stops working and it just keeps processing and nothing happens.

That happened to me a couple times. And

it's not just Godex. I think it's the context field that is not designed for a 10-minute prompt. And how many how many edits do

prompt. And how many how many edits do you typically do with uh in this process?

Um it's interesting cuz like with AI, I'm kind of giving a feedback for it to edit. It's actually harder to just edit

edit. It's actually harder to just edit yourself and just give it feedback, right? So like I I I bring up it, I give

right? So like I I I bring up it, I give it the codeex, it does a bunch of editing and it uses my best examples to edit and then inevitably there's something wrong. So I have to read

something wrong. So I have to read through and I get kind of voice takes a bunch of feedback and it doesn't pass.

Mhm.

And then maybe the last 10% I have to manually change change stuff.

Yeah.

Like is actually important like I always emphasize like the last 10% you got to add your human touch to it. You can't

can just like AI slopify everything.

Basically all your written content is Yeah. created with the help of AI. Talk

Yeah. created with the help of AI. Talk

to me about the strategic uh thing that you're doing. Is that like in the

you're doing. Is that like in the morning it briefs you on what's performing, what's not, or Every week it sends me a brief about how much money I made this week and and and

also like um how did my past 30 days content perform and also like all the other channels that make similar content. Is there any kind of outliers?

Mhm.

You know, so uh and it does does that for YouTube and also for Substack.

Mhm. And and for Substack, it doesn't have API, so it has to use browser use to look up everything.

Yeah.

So that would take me like an hour to do manually, but like it it does it.

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minutes. You mentioned some of your editing is done with AI.

Yeah. Is that where you do you dump a transcript and it edits it out or what's the process?

Yeah, for video editing, I feel like maybe I haven't gone deep into it yet, but I still use like a human like a video editor.

Uh, but the transcript is very useful because I dump the transcript into codeex and it tells me here's the moments where like you had like awkward pauses or like stuff you should cut. Here's the timestamps and

should cut. Here's the timestamps and also for like the intro, here's kind of like what you should pick. Like here's

like the the spicy quotes from the interview that you should pick. Yeah,

it's it's fascinating how this has become so much faster versus a year ago.

It's just Yeah, it's a different reality these days. So, you've described all of

these days. So, you've described all of these things that you've built. How

often do you build something new?

Pretty much every single time I talk to AI something something changes, right?

Like update some skills or something changes. But you some like

something changes. But you some like from zero to one or Well, my hope is that I can uh streamline a lot of my content production and you know for audience I'm not going to slify everything. I'm I'm

still applying taste, but I want to streamline all of it so I can save more time because I actually want to be a builder cuz you know I I spent a decade of my career just building products inside big companies and I want to now

that we have all these a agents and tokens we can use. I want to like build different tools like open source tools or things that you know solve my own problems. Mhm.

Yeah. So I want to do both. I don't want to just be a creator. I want to be a creator and a builder.

Nice.

So I'm going to spend more time doing that.

Mhm. Yeah.

How do you make decision when to build something and when it's okay the way it is?

Um is usually I I I feel like you know it's best to kind of build stuff to solve your own problems. So like uh for example I I built like a fitness app. I

mean everyone is building fitness apps but I I I built a fitness app that helps me track my workouts and then uh it has an MCP to kind of like send me emails on my health.

You know that's one thing I built. I'm

doing something else right now. you

know, in Gmail, like you get a lot of scam scammers and and like u my my parents have no idea like they like, you know, their bank sends them an email, but it's actually like xyz@hotmail.com,

right? So, I'm trying to build like some

right? So, I'm trying to build like some sort of extension to just highlight that this is a scam, how long does it take you to build something like that?

I think to get to 80% there, it probably just takes a couple hour hours because you just make a plan and you get to do it. But to actually make it good and to test it and polish it, that that takes more time. that takes like a couple days or like you know depending

on where your quality bar is where you want to go.

Before we start building something, you have this system with five layers of AI adoption. Can you walk me through them

adoption. Can you walk me through them and let's decide which layer do we want to land on today?

I made this five layer thing actually like 6 months ago. So most people are in layer one which is just using AI for everyday answers. They're using chatbt

everyday answers. They're using chatbt and cloud and asking questions. I think

the second layer is like using AI for daily work. So you're still in chatbt

daily work. So you're still in chatbt and cloud but you're using projects and other things to like um to not do so much copy and pasting to like set up projects for different things like I don't know giving you a life advice

automating your content stuff but um because it's in chat and cloud you still have to copy and paste the output to somewhere else right so it's still like a lot of going back and forth um and then and then I think this is

more from like a product perspective but then a lot of people uh in my you know as a product manager you want to use AI for prototyping cuz like product managers, we all used to just write a bunch of dot documents that none of our

engineers wanted to actually read read.

So, so now with all these tools like lovable and like um replet and you know codeex and everything else, you can actually build prototypes of your uh products. So like I usually take a

products. So like I usually take a screenshot of my product and I'm like hey can you make a prototype of this and make some changes and show it to my engineer and the designer.

Uh so that's then and then you can use AI level four to build different apps.

So like there's between building a personal app for yourself and trying to like build an app that like millions of people use, right? So when I say building apps is is a lot of is just like personal apps for yourself.

Does a where do the agents uh go in these layers?

Well, if if you're just building an app like you know you can just put it on Versell or something and then have a link that people can you use. So it's

not it's not really looping or anything.

Okay. Yeah. So and that's layer four.

Layer four. Yeah.

And layer five.

Layer five. Layer five is what we've been talking about, which is like you actually use AI kind of for like as a personal agent to try to like streamline and automate as much as you can,

right? And and like and it it sounds

right? And and like and it it sounds like very complicated, but really it's just about like sitting down like like canceling all your meetings for a day and sitting down and like thinking through your past week, all the time you

spent time manually doing stuff and and just like sharing it with your AI friend. Can you walk me through a

friend. Can you walk me through a process that we just talked about uh in a very practical way so that people who've been using AI on like level one maybe some level two

can move to maybe ideally level five uh where it's more I I I feel like the most practical step that most people should take is just to like stop using chatbot and just start

using codeex or claw code that's like step one and like people get intimidated by this stuff like codex and claw code like this is like a programming sounds very nerdy. Yeah.

Yeah. But in reality, it's just like you're still just chatting with the AI, right? And like when I use Codex, like

right? And like when I use Codex, like 80% of the time I'm I'm not building I'm I'm not coding or or any of that.

It's it's just more powerful because uh you know these two apps, they have um you can build skills for them. They have

access to APIs and integrations, so they can actually get work done across your other apps. And they're just like way

other apps. And they're just like way more powerful than just default chatbot.

So, so basically like what I recommend you do is use C codeex or cloud code and set up a new folder. Call it like personal OS or whatever you want to call it. Just call it a folder, right?

it. Just call it a folder, right?

And then I asked it like what are the main workflows that it can do here and you can kind of see here that um oh you asked codeex to come up with well this is all the stuff that I've set up over time,

right? So basically like you know as we

right? So basically like you know as we talked about it uses like various different skills and skills are just text files to do work for me. So like

for example to to edit my newsletter it it has this skill to shape a rough note into transcript and then it also uses this other skill called last 30 days to add fresh research and then uses another

skill called no AI slop to make the writing clear.

I like that. What what if you don't ask it for last 30 days it's just going to emit.

I think somewhere in the skill I have some instructions like hey do some online searches to you know make sure I'm like you know saying stuff that's actually true. Another thing like people

actually true. Another thing like people should recognize is that there's a lot of like open source skills that are really good, you know. So last 30 days is like some open source skill that I found on GitHub and it does like searches across like Reddit X and all

these other platforms. Genius. I need this.

Genius. I need this.

And then it uses no slop to and and and then eventually the newsletter post gets to a point and I use social writer skill to make uh to turn a newsletter into like a bunch of threads.

Mhm.

Right. So that's for newsletter and then for podcast is a very similar format like I I use this podcast prep skill to research guests that I have and then and then you know as part of making stuff on YouTube you know this is better than

anyone you got to have a really good thumbnail title and copy.

Mhm.

So I have a whole skill to just like test different thumbnails and titles and then and then based on that I decided the podcast is even worth doing and then I I do like a post-production scale like turning into all kinds of stuff.

Yeah. Sponsors we both have sponsors is like a lot of work. Yeah.

So I I I asked it to keep track of my sponsors through different skills and also help me draft and brainstorm sponsor copy, help me, you know, schedule stuff on the inventory and all

that kind of stuff. Yeah. So so I guess the TRD is like uh these workflows are done by connecting different skills together that that you build and like for all these skills I I don't actually

can you show one of them like just go into like strategy for example where it's built and like walk me through how you built it.

Yeah, sure. Let's just say open personal the sound.

I think one of the most useful skills that I built is just like a personal advisor skill because uh I guess um my wife is tired of me asking for advice all all the time. It literally is just a

text file, right? So it's a text file.

Give me an honest advice and you know you're my trusted life and business advice and then keep your tone warm, right? And then uh this this stuff is

right? And then uh this this stuff is like a little bit more f fancy. There's

like evals and stuff but we can talk about that later.

Learnings is that your file? Yeah, Codex

itself has memory, but I asked it to save an error text file called learnings.m MD to save memory from our

learnings.m MD to save memory from our past conversations. So, it kind of

past conversations. So, it kind of learns about me. This is kind of the self-improving stuff that we talked about with something they've released yesterday cuz they released something when it now remembers all of your conversations like has this expanded memory. Do people still need learnings

memory. Do people still need learnings MD?

Well, I don't actually know how their like systemwide memory works. So maybe

you don't need it, but like it's also useful for me to read learnings.m MD and see what kind of like uh conversations I' I've had with it in in the past.

For learnings MD file, do you ask it how do you prompt so that every conversation contributes to that file?

Yeah. So um you also have to think about managing the context window because you don't want it to be like super long.

Yeah.

Right. So I I have some instructions saying like hey like after every conversation you should ask me like you should recognize kind of like patterns and like learnings that you have and ask me if if if I want to save on learnings

MD. So so ask me

MD. So so ask me and there are more strategic learnings right because this is your personal adviser. So after every single

adviser. So after every single conversation uh it uses his best judgment whether it wants to ask me or not. And then uh I I also ask it like if you're going to save it there just like have a few lines just like have one or two sentences like

don't don't don't write like huge paragraphs.

So that's the way it's so interesting with these like how what what AI actually remembers about you cuz sometimes you think maybe it remembers everything and you hope that it does but

in reality it doesn't or remembers stuff that you don't really care about. Yeah.

So these learnings and so so you basically prompted it saying where does this prompt go? Does it go uh it's it's just in the skill file like the the the main skill file of like hey

before you before you answer any questions I have like just quickly skim through learnings.md

through learnings.md and uh once we finish conversation or like in the middle of a conversation when you see something ask me if this should be added to this learnings MD file and the skill runs across everything that you do

because skill is triggered based on like uh your description your skill description in the top which is like so here here I say like use whenever the user is stuck on a decision or working through a hard problem or asking for a gut But sometimes it doesn't trigger sometimes I have to like actually do

like slash give me a slash personal advisor and then ask a question.

How do you come up with all the like for me when I'm building this? There is so much brain work going into this like when to trigger this skill all the nuances. Do you use codecs for that as

nuances. Do you use codecs for that as well?

Yeah. I I I never write any of these files man manually but you still no it's even not writing it's just thinking about all the nuances. Yes, I can think about a lot of

nuances. Yes, I can think about a lot of things for you. But then there is so many different things that you want to remember like when to trigger this skill. What types of information you

skill. What types of information you want to go there? Oh, maybe and then you wake up in the middle of the night. Oh,

I forgot to add this.

That's right. Yeah, I have a skill to build skills, right? And anthropic

actually has a skill to build skills, too. Personally, I'm like very worried

too. Personally, I'm like very worried about just like it becoming sloppy. Like

it just like starts adding stuff. I

don't read it and it becomes like super slop like if it's like super long.

because you also want to make sure you're in control of whatever is in the skill. And if AI just built a huge skill

skill. And if AI just built a huge skill for you, then you don't have time to read it.

So, so my so my I have like a skill editor skill is very basic. It just like looks for like duplicate instructions or like slop content and try to remove it like like I I I tell you try to keep my all my skills to like one page max

so I can actually read through it and see if it makes sense or not.

Let's take a deeper look at what's what's next. So,

what's next. So, uh yeah. So, so yeah. So like update the

uh yeah. So, so yeah. So like update the plan and and and then and then and then like so for for this personal advisor thing I have my you know what why don't

I just ask it to um can you read my plan Google doc and share its overall structure without sharing confidential info.

So, so basically like and this is just the way I I I do it like I have my actual plan or like you know my business plan or whatever in a in a Google doc and and like I I find it's very useful

to as creator to like have some principles to help you make the decisions. So basically it's like a one

decisions. So basically it's like a one pager with my goal, my principles like background of my business positioning and uh some other stuff like energy and other stuff, right? Like I don't know about your goal but my goal is just to

like make x amount of money and just like actually be in control of my time and who I want to meet with. And then my principles are like like I have a problem where I tend to take on too much stuff. So I asked to like just keep the

stuff. So I asked to like just keep the main thing the main main thing like that's one of my principles like which is like you know people invite you to conferences and like you know do all kind of like try to write write write a book or do all kind of stuff and just

and just you have to say no because you want to you should focus on making a newsletter and a podcast. Great.

Yeah.

And it's so hard to stay focused right but but because I have that principle so when it gives me advice it has that principle in mind so it can kind of check me. Mhm.

check me. Mhm.

Um and then the business stuff is more just like um you know like all the financial information and I I think it's very one important section is like what gives me energy and what takes energy away and just like a couple bullet points

but like you know what gives me energy is like you know vibe coding with codeex.

What takes energy away is like I I don't know like doing too many zoom calls or something.

Totally. Yeah. So, so like, so I I think I think it's very important like you don't have to be a creator to make this document, right? For any kind of career

document, right? For any kind of career you have. Just make this document uh and

you have. Just make this document uh and putting a Google Doc somewhere and then set up a skill to reference this document when it gives you advice.

I think that like it's literally one of my most useful skills. It's like not super complicated, but like it helps me make a lot of decisions for better or for worse.

Most people use Claude like a search engine. They type in a question, they

engine. They type in a question, they get an answer. Most times they're not really satisfied with it and they close the tab. I did the same thing for months

the tab. I did the same thing for months and I was looking at people who were saying AI is changing their life and I'm like then I spent one afternoon setting it up properly. Uploaded a few files about how I think and how I work and it

completely changed. I wrote the whole

completely changed. I wrote the whole process up step by step. You get it when you subscribe to my newsletter, Future Proof. It's free. The link is in the

Proof. It's free. The link is in the description.

Yeah. Well, this is very powerful cuz it then you can use it for anything that you do. So it aderes to your principles.

you do. So it aderes to your principles.

Do do you have a team?

Uh I have like a video editor and a few contractors, but no, I don't have a full-time team. Yeah.

full-time team. Yeah.

Do have you ever tried building like a a AI chief of staff?

Uh yeah, I have one in uh uh this right now I'm using this thing called Hermis.

Uhhuh.

Yeah.

What can you talk about this?

It's it's like open call but it's like a little bit more reliable. And there's

like a team that built it. Uh, but you can also just set up in codeex too. But

like I I I'm using Hermes right now because I I like having it in my messaging apps like in Telegram and like wherever I want to use it.

How do you use it? Talk to me about that cuz I'm trying to build something.

Uh I'm trying to build uh I'm trying to build an AI chief of staff. Yeah.

Uh where first of all like my strategic decision making happens on Zoom calls and in Telegram where I give feedback to my team and I say yes or no. Yeah. Uh so

I want AI to learn my strategic decision- making style.

Got it.

And then I just talked to you know how I interviewed um the founder of Kalshi and she has a team of developers but they build this thing where it goes across all the Slack chats they have every

Sunday and tells her where the team is stuck, what was promised to be delivered, what hasn't been delivered.

So somebody who just watches the whole operation and keeps everyone accountable.

I see.

Is that where you're trying to build with Hermes? So you just have to think

with Hermes? So you just have to think about what are the inputs, what are the what are you trying to do and what what are the outputs, right? So the inputs for like any kind of business is probably like like Slack. Yeah.

And if you use granola to record your media meetings, there's transcripts there.

Just set up all the just ask like Codex or Hermis or whatever just set up all the integrations be like, "Hey, can you hook up to my granola? Can you hook up to my Slack?"

So for anyone who's at level two, let's say, and wants to get to level five, what are the steps they should be taking? I think this is the step number

taking? I think this is the step number one really build something like a strategic mindset. Yeah. behind all of

strategic mindset. Yeah. behind all of your AIS and projects and agents. What

are the next steps?

So step number one is as I said like to just actually use codeex or clock code just just start using that instead of like the the regular stuff, right?

And even projects like you Yeah. I I I switched away from projects

Yeah. I I I switched away from projects cuz like I I set up all my projects here instead cuz like um like with a project if I want to edit a newsletter post it spits out an output and I have to copy and paste the output

to Google Doc or like manually update stuff. Yeah,

but this stuff can just update Google Doc for me. So it saves a step makes sense.

So step one is to use the right apps.

And step two is to um just ask the right questions like brain dump your workflows and ask the right questions cuz I I feel like a lot of people don't realize what this stuff is capable of doing. You

know, like this stuff is basically capable of doing in my opinion any kind of knowledge work that you have as long as you're patient with it and give it the right context.

Yeah. So just ask the right questions and then set up the workflows like we just talked about and then build the skills and integrations and and then you're off to the races.

What do you think your life is going to look like in a year?

A year. I've always worked in big companies where there's always being a lot of cross functional alignment, right? You got to align different teams

right? You got to align different teams and different orgs. I really actually do really miss my engineering team and people like that I enjoy working with at work. But I feel like these days like uh

work. But I feel like these days like uh this is like the era of solarreneurs and I feel like you can get so much done as a agents stuff that you don't want to do um that you can if it really frees up

your time to do stuff that gives you more energy you know and even the stuff that's like strategic or gives me energy I I feel like now I have this partner that knows me.

Yeah.

And can like just like kind of be my pair pair programmer or like partner to kind of figure stuff out.

Do you think you're going to be working less or more in a year? Uh, well, I I think I'm pretty taipe, so I don't know if I'm going to completely check out, but um I hope I'll be doing more work that I enjoy. At the end of the day, I

feel like if you and I retire, we'll be borrowing play go play golf or something, but it it would be very bor boring.

Of course. Yeah, I think we're going to keep working.

Yeah, we'll keep working, but we want to do work that we actually enjoy, not like the monus copy and paste or like, you know, that that kind of work.

Do you have any fear around AI? Uh, I

feel like I I I fear that I'm getting dumber and and lazier. Like if I'm on a flight and there's no like internet connection like that, I I just don't feel like working anymore cuz I don't I don't have this partner.

You know, that's Yeah. Evolution. If you

take our grandparents, even my grandparents, like they would never understand my lifestyle cuz they were constantly working. It's either at home

constantly working. It's either at home like my mom raised me while working, while cooking, while cleaning and I'm like, "Oh, I can't clean. I have I need a cleaner.

going, "Oh, I just bought a robot vacuum cleaner. I don't know how I lived

cleaner. I don't know how I lived without it." We're becoming laser and

without it." We're becoming laser and laser. That's true. Uh, but I think it's

laser. That's true. Uh, but I think it's it's actually then we have more time for kids and meaningful time with uh with our loved ones.

I I I do worry about our our kids cuz like at least you and I grew up without AI, so we have like 20 years of like doing the basic stuff like basic critical thinking skills and like you know learning how to do math and stuff.

Mhm.

But I feel like our kids these days they can they can start using Codex right right now talk to you know computer.

So like uh you kind kind of have to make sure they actually still learn the fundamentals.

What what's your solution to that? What

are you trying to do with your kids that's different from how you were raised?

Yeah. I I have kind of like a rat radical thing. I I I feel like they need

radical thing. I I I feel like they need to um and maybe this is my bias but I feel like they need to just like maybe start a business or some something and learn the real things because I I I feel like reflecting on my journey my

education I didn't learn a ton from the classroom. I I learn by like failing and

classroom. I I learn by like failing and like making mistakes.

Yeah.

So, I feel like they need to have the right mentality to do that kind of stuff and like learn how to fail and just go out there and like try to do something.

Do Do you ever have fear for your career?

Yeah. My career.

Yeah. I I'm I'm talking to a lot of creators these days and I see them at events and a lot of people think that creator economy is getting oversaturated because everyone is suddenly a creator because it's so much easier to create

content.

Um do you think that might be a problem?

I I do think it's a problem because I I see a lot of creators like just making slop like they they like they get AI to generate like 10 posts per hour and like the slop goes v viral and it's kind of like um disheartening to see that

but I feel like that I think that's why it's so important to find your principles and values cuz like I I never want to be someone who just makes tons of slop even if it goes viral and makes me a lot of money.

Yeah.

You know but but I do think um but maybe people get tired of the slop and people will be like hey I actually want human craft and human touch on this stuff.

Let's finish with an action plan.

Yeah.

For um someone who's trying to stay ahead in this AI era for the next week, what should they be doing?

Okay. I think um to stay ahead uh get the $20 chat GPD plan, download Codeex and just start saving time and uh you building workflows and building skills

to save time and asking to do it because I feel like that's more productive for you because you will immediately recognize that you can start saving time versus what a lot of people do which is like they um go on Twitter and try to like read all the news and like try to

you know take some courses or or something like uh switch from consumption mode to actual build mode.

Output. Yeah.

What if they come back and say, "Oh, I tried but it didn't work. I don't know what you're talking about. It's so bad.

It's so much easier to just do everything by yourself."

Well, it does take longer. So, it's

interesting because like with AI, you have to set up the system first before you can see the fruits of the output.

And it does take time to set up the system, but it probably only takes like one day to do it, right? And you have to have some patience cuz uh even now with all this stuff I built, it still cannot oneshot exactly what I want.

So, there's always kind of a back and forth. And as long as you're patient and

forth. And as long as you're patient and you give it like feedback and tell to save it in your skills and memory, it will get better over over time.

Yeah.

You know, and unlike like a employee is never going to leave you. It's going to be there.

It's never going to leave you and it's only getting exponentially better. The

model will get better every single month.

Peter, thank you so much. It was a very, very productive conversation.

Thanks for having for coming.