Alex Cooper Presents: A Grammy Special (ft. Rosé)

Hi, my name's Rosa.

>> Hi everyone.

Yeah, Blackpink is being called the biggest pop band in the world. Billions

will be of you.

>> Black Pink arrive with such a force.

>> Black Roses solo project. Can we do that one more time? That was fun.

>> We'll say huge success as a solo act.

game.

>> First Korean female act.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Ros and Bruno. Thank you.

>> Thank you so much. This means so much to me. The final list of nominees for these

me. The final list of nominees for these annual Grammy Awards >> for Song of the Year, Apartate.

Welcome to a special edition of Call Her Daddy. We are going to do things just a

Daddy. We are going to do things just a little bit differently today. I came to Seoul to interview someone very special, immerse myself in her culture, and maybe

have a little fun along the way. So, if

you're ready, let's get into it.

>> What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.

>> Alex Cooper, welcome to Korea. Rosé,

welcome to Call Her Daddy.

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>> Oh my gosh, she's moving.

>> Oh my god.

>> Hi.

>> Oh my god. Welcome to Caller Daddy.

>> Thank you. Oh my gosh. I look It feels like I'm watching a screen.

>> I know. I feel like I've been watching you for hours prepping for this and to see you in person, I'm like, "Oh my god, it's you. We're here."

it's you. We're here."

>> Yeah. This is crazy.

>> Okay. This is my first time ever in Korea.

>> Yay. I feel so honored that I get to spend this time with you. So, should we get going?

>> Oh, please. Wait, when did you arrive?

>> Like 10 hours ago.

>> Oh my gosh. We need you coffee.

>> Let's go get coffee. Let's go. Let's go.

>> Roll camera.

Can you even go to a coffee shop?

Because we have this entire place shut down.

>> Shut down.

>> Shut down for you like can you go normal places?

>> Um, if I like cover up properly, it's usually like the hair. I have like a cap on and then I look like a murderer basically and everyone's like and I'm just like this dark thing walking

around. But if I can just like cover it

around. But if I can just like cover it up then I can. I mean, you are sitting in front of me. You're a global superstar, but I do kind of want to go

back before all of this. YG

Entertainment was holding auditions and your dad encouraged you to try out. Can

you talk to me about what that process was like a little bit?

>> I think me growing up, like even culturally, my parents, it wasn't like it wasn't a normal thing to like send me off to like something like that or like

classes or any like that. And so I would always just sing at home just like on the piano and it was like never taken lessons before. So it was very like

lessons before. So it was very like organic and stuff but um for him to be like do you want to take an audition? I was like like what me like what do you mean? I'm like I

don't have any like I don't I'm not a great singer. Am I? I was like am I Dad?

great singer. Am I? I was like am I Dad?

No.

>> You're like wait tell me again Dad.

Should I do this?

>> Like what? Yeah, but then Rosie, you go and you audition and you come in first out of thousands of people. Were you

nervous going into the audition or were you like, I've got this?

>> No, I was like laughing cuz I when I was like in the line, all these girls were like playing me. They were like, hi, I wrote this song. And they I'm like, wow.

And they'd play incredible just oh, they were really good in my opinion. And I was like, oh my god, this

opinion. And I was like, oh my god, this is terrible. and I walk in being like,

is terrible. and I walk in being like, "Well, I'm just going to have to consider it a good experience and just have fun."

have fun." >> What do you think WG saw in you?

>> No, I have no idea.

Maybe they could imag cuz I remember they were planning on making this group that eventually turned into Blackpink and maybe I fit that category or Oh, I

maybe I think like since I was from Australia I feel like that was probably something different and like I was from like a different area. I wasn't even from the

different area. I wasn't even from the US and back then there weren't many foreign um people in these Korean groups. And then you get the call and

groups. And then you get the call and you obviously get accepted. You grew up in Australia, but trainees have to live full-time in Korea to do this program.

>> How did you feel when you found out that at 15 years old you were going to have to move to a new country alone? Like,

were you scared?

>> Um, no.

I was just excited. I was like, "Oh my god, this is so exciting. This is like so dramatic. I'm like leaving." I'm

so dramatic. I'm like leaving." I'm

like, "Bye everyone." Like, "Where are you going?" I'm like, "I don't know how

you going?" I'm like, "I don't know how to explain it."

>> You're like, "I'll see you guys later."

>> Yeah. Felt so special.

And then and then it all just kind of was like, and then reality kicked in.

>> Was there a moment you can remember where it really sunk in like, "Oh my god, this is happening and I'm completely alone. Like, my family is

completely alone. Like, my family is gone. I'm 15 years old. Here we go."

gone. I'm 15 years old. Here we go."

I think it was like as soon as they dropped me off. So, we got to the building and um they were really nice and accommodating to like my whole family and they showed us around like this is a recording studio. this will be

like D. And then we go to the basement

like D. And then we go to the basement where the um rehearsal space was and then they introduced me to the girls and I was like so shy and I'm like oh my god this is so fun but like exciting and

scary and yeah and then they and then I said hi and then I remember I looked turned to my parents and they were outside the room. They're like all right we're leaving now. And I remember being

like wait where are you going? And

they're like, "Well, you have to stay here and now like practice with the girls." And I remember being like like,

girls." And I remember being like like, "Oh." And I and they were all watching

"Oh." And I and they were all watching me, so I didn't have time to process it.

And I remember they like, "Okay." And

then they just gave me like a rough hug.

And then the door closes. And I remember so they were all looking at me. And then

I rush to the corn. So the door is at the corner. So the the door closed and

the corner. So the the door closed and then I like put my nose like on the corner and I just start sobbing and then the girls all came around and like

hugged me. But I was so scared. Like of

hugged me. But I was so scared. Like of

course at 15 years old like I think the the most I could equate it for people in America would be if you went to boarding school as a kid, right? And you get sent away for high school

>> and you go on this excursion for a couple years. What do you think was one

couple years. What do you think was one of the scariest things back then that you had to like do alone for the first time without your parents once you got into the program?

>> I think just just honestly like understanding the culture and then realizing hierarchy and like and having to like put yourself somewhere amongst

all these people when I don't have any social skills yet. I think that's quite scary. it is uh I had to I guess had to

scary. it is uh I had to I guess had to do that quite early on and to start navigating okay who are who's who are the people here that are going to

protect me and are they going to pro protect me or is that just going to be me and I think that's just a question that obviously potentially doesn't

naturally come to a 15year-old and just the contrast of having like full family growing up to like none in a day >> you're on on your own.

>> Yeah.

>> Do you remember a moment that you were like, "Oh, I thought I could trust this person and that didn't work out so well." I think like I had trust for like

well." I think like I had trust for like everyone growing up because I mean I grew up in Australia and like everyone's just you have your parents as well and you're just in like school and it's

protected environments and parents would take me to church and again protected environments and my parents know everyone that's going to take care of me whenever whenever they drop you off

anywhere but I think slowly realized with that when when you're when you're taken away from your parents I think as a child you just instantly ly realize

that oh like I can't trust anyone until like you grow up as an adult yourself and then you you know how to protect yourself that's when you can start you know choosing who you can trust but I

think at that time I I feel like I probably realized like for now can't trust anyone the training process was so intense and I think there's a lot of people that maybe aren't familiar with

it and it's essentially this 247 boot camp where you are training you are doing singing dancing, language skills, PR, stage presence. Once you got fully

immersed in it and you started taking these classes, like what do you think was the biggest shock to you of all of the training that you were going through?

>> Well, I guess but I went at such a young age that I didn't understand the concept of rest.

And now that I'm an adult, now I realize and then what freedom might mean because in the past like I was just a child and so like they told me to I'm like okay.

And then now I think about it um to kind of do something like every single day like with no time off. Like I don't

remember from 16 to 20 I don't remember what like hanging out or just relaxing was. I mean, I didn't have any other

was. I mean, I didn't have any other friends other than the girls that I trained with as well. 11:00 a.m. to 2:00

a.m. was our our training hours. And

then I think it was a bit shocking that we all had to just stay in this big dance studio and this extra small studio and just share it all together. So, we'd

all have earphones and like iPads and just sit around and find places to like have privacy.

>> Right. So, you kind of you or you didn't have privacy.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and so like the only time I noticed that I was alone was when I was in the shower. So I would wake up earlier than anyone just so that I can have 34 minutes in the shower. I

remember I'd just cry in the cuz I never want to show anyone my tears. I don't

want to look weak. And so like I' I remember I'd like cry in the shower and then I'd be like and I walk out and be like I'm back. What were you crying

about? I mean being away from home and

about? I mean being away from home and just I guess yeah and I was just like also um going through being a teenager

and everything and so I think I remember doing that and just realizing there's no privacy whatsoever. We even shared a big

privacy whatsoever. We even shared a big like the living room was a wardrobe cuz we didn't have enough space for everybody's clothes cuz it was the

tiniest apartment back then. Um, and so we would, the whole living room was just um clothes.

>> After your debut, you guys all shot to insane levels of global fame overnight.

You said in an interview that freedom for you is being anonymous. What did you mean by that?

>> Yeah, I think I still feel that way.

Freedom is like I mean the feeling of the opposite of the word kind of feels like because I'm not anonymous. I guess a lot

more people than before recognize me. Um

and so it does kind of stop me from having some experiences and so I feel like if I were to be anonymous for a day

then I would feel free to do so many fun things. What do you think you would do

things. What do you think you would do if you could all the attention, the noise is turned off, no one knows who you are, you're allowed to go anywhere in the world. What would you do?

>> I would go to like the busiest place on earth and just like walk down just >> like where? New York, Soul.

>> Yeah, New York. So, or like any like theme park and just walk on the streets and then like I don't know just like

just that's what I Yeah. So, like I still go, but like I like, you know, kind of have to like hide. But I'd be I'd look cute. First of all, I'd dress cute.

>> No like scarf around your face.

>> None of that. I dress really cute and I would go with friends or this is like the funniest thing. It's been my um I don't know if I should say it, but

like my my dream for a long time is like I'd always like I've always like from like when I was like I think a teenager dreamed of going to a theme park with a

boyfriend >> Rosie.

>> No, but you know how like we kind of shade the people who are like in love in line. You know how we kind of like gh

line. You know how we kind of like gh but I've always wanted to try that.

You're like, I want to do those cute cringe things like hold hands on like >> and be annoying and have people be like, oh my god. And be like, >> well, >> and like take cute pictures and like

have no one watching you, but like have a moment where you could just be cute and corny and cheesy >> and not have to think about >> anyone taking pictures. If anything,

you're the only two taking pictures for >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm like,

>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm like,

>> wow.

>> I know. know and how crazy it's like the world would do >> anything to see you actually do that cuz they're like who is it who is she with oh wow

>> oh my god maybe we you know what someone needs to get that for you for like a holiday like shut down the theme park >> let you go with a boy

>> and go and enjoy yourself kiss on the ferris wheel >> I'd go home and I like write in my journal today I finally >> dear tired your diary.

>> Today I went on the tilt twirl and we held hands >> and kissed >> and kissed.

>> I'm happy. I'm free.

>> I'm free.

>> Oh my god, that's adorable.

>> I know it's really dumb, but yeah, >> it's not dumb. I think you can dream about those little things because you're also still a girl at heart and you're still normal to yourself, right? Mhm.

Mhm.

>> There's so much you just said that I want to unpack, but I think we should do it over some food. What do you think?

>> Oh, please. I've actually been really hungry this whole time.

>> Right. I feel like I have the best tour guide today. I'm like,

guide today. I'm like, >> "Oh, yes.

>> Take me to get some food, Rosie."

>> Oh my god, there's so many things I can think of right now and I'm really excited.

We made it. We're here. Tell me how you picked this place.

>> Well, I was like thinking where could I take Alex? Um, so traditionally there

take Alex? Um, so traditionally there are like way more, but I think a lot has kind of disappeared, but usually outside there's like a tent and they're called pujang matcha. And this is the kitchen

pujang matcha. And this is the kitchen of it obviously, so we're not in the tent. But then people used to that like

tent. But then people used to that like on the streets there'd be tents and if you go inside it's like really warm inside and like plastic tables just very

like cheap like furniture and stuff and a lot of people just um you know on their way to back from work or they would you know stop by for like a drink

and some really good Korean food. And I

think it's like a really traditional thing and I haven't actually been to one in a while and I thought it'd be like a fun experience to kind of come with you.

So I am honored. I also was thinking I'm so happy that I'm able to bring you somewhere that obviously you couldn't go normally every day. And yes, we shut this place down, but I also wouldn't

have found this myself. So we're both here and we usually wouldn't be able to come here cuz I wouldn't have found it and you can't because you're too famous.

>> So let's cheers to that. Cheers to that.

>> Okay. What are we drinking?

>> I think at a place like this, you have to do the smeck.

>> Okay.

>> And it's just beer with a shot of soju.

Here, I'm going to show off my skills. I

just learned this skill. So, I hope this is going to be great. I literally

learned it like last week from my friends. Um, so this is what they did.

friends. Um, so this is what they did.

Let me >> What is this? What is this?

>> This is like they just get two surgery glasses and measure it like that. And

then usually it's like best if you kind of >> Oh my god.

>> I am your bartender basically.

>> And you mix this with the beer.

>> Mhm.

>> Is this kind of traditional like everyone drinks this?

>> Yes.

I'm asking the cameraman here.

>> Wait, what are what are you asking him?

>> I'm asking him if he thinks this is a good um ratio.

Okay.

I'll have this one. This one looks good.

>> Okay.

>> What makes one look good and one not look good?

>> I think I did a bit more here.

>> And then I think that's just what they do. I didn't

do. I didn't >> put my mouth on that. So there you go.

>> So you don't stir it. You just hit it.

>> I mean, apparently I think that works.

>> Okay. There we go.

>> And then Cheers.

>> Cheers.

After you start drinking this, I've tried just beer on it own and it's a bit like boring.

>> So, do you drink this usually if you're going out for a night out >> in Korea? Yes.

>> Okay. And what else are you drinking if you're not in Korea? Are you a tequila girl?

>> Oh, I'm a vodka girl. Tequila tastes

like vomit from the worst nights of my life. So, I just I cannot

life. So, I just I cannot >> Okay, but you've drank it on the worst nights of your life. As in the best and then worst endings of my life.

>> So fair. You have to keep it for like special occasions. Okay, we're about to

special occasions. Okay, we're about to eat a lot of food.

>> A lot. A lot.

>> Oh my god. Thank you so much.

>> This is get money, which is like an omelette basically with >> That looks delicious.

>> With vegetables in >> This is kimchi stew.

>> This is going to keep us warm.

>> Guys, it's freezing in Korea right now.

We're not just being like bougie with our jackets on. We're actually cold.

Wow.

>> Oh my god. Wait, wait, wait. This is

like one of my favorites. What is this?

It's just dried squid. And then this is a really good sauce.

>> We'll we'll let this cool off. Um, let's

just start with culture.

>> You left Australia, you moved to Korea, you've talked about how it was a culture shock. Like you were one of the only

shock. Like you were one of the only Koreans when you were at school in Australia, then you come to Korea and it's like, are you Korean enough?

>> Yeah. No, that's uh a really good question. Like I think I always grew up

question. Like I think I always grew up feeling like I definitely look different from everyone in my class and that was fine but just somewhat felt like a bit different and my culture at home was

different cuz my parents were both from Korea and um I think moving to Korea I was very excited and I instantly thought

that you know everyone there would be like me and um obviously I haven't grown up here there was so much to learn from

and I think just Like in terms of how people uh you know like when certain people meet for the first time like

manners are different and in an elevator like how your manners would be in an elevator to like buying things over just a counter and like and all of that. It's

like everyone has such different mannerisms and just like learning from like about all of that was much more difficult than I thought and yes they

came the thing the question of am I Korean enough and I definitely have felt a little bit like

cuz I'm just purely half like when I went to school half very like Australian cultured and then I'm also like not. And

then coming here, it was just like my whole life has been a bit and I'm sure a lot of people share the same feeling of just trying to figure out where I belong.

>> But lately, because I've been traveling like a lot. I've been traveling to like London, to like New York, to LA, back to Korea, and then like for tour we go to

like Asia, like Thailand, and all the in Japan. And and because I'm traveling a

Japan. And and because I'm traveling a lot, I think more and more I do that, I feel like I just belong to myself and whatever culture

I am, it's just a mixture of a bunch of things. And I think late 20s now, I feel

things. And I think late 20s now, I feel much more comfortable and that's why I love traveling and I feel like I relate to a lot of people. And yes, I do feel a

bit alienated from certain crowds, but I think there's a beauty in that. And

there was a time where it hurt a bit >> like when you're much younger but like you know that's why I'm really grateful for my job as well because it you know it gives me to all these different cultures and I think what's so beautiful

which is a good message for anyone listening is like you at first are just trying to fit in and you're trying to be like I'm like this person or this person. What makes you so beautiful is

person. What makes you so beautiful is that you are unique and you have these different backgrounds that make you who you are that make that made you stand out when you did that audition and YG

saw you and thought, "Oh, this girl should come, right?" Like there's something about it that's also so beautiful that you bring these different elements into your life that you have to look at it as a positive.

>> Okay, let's eat, >> shall we?

>> What is this called?

>> This is just uh which is squid.

>> Okay. And then this is which is like basically the same thing like chili pepper and mayonnaise. So we

just break it off.

>> I would usually grab it and then rip it.

>> I didn't wash my hands, so I just asked her to rip it for us for us.

>> Okay. And then that's just omelette. So

you can try that. It's with ketchup. So

good old ketchup.

>> I'm going for the omelette, guys.

I don't know.

>> This is my heaven.

>> How is the omelette?

>> It's so yummy. What is this?

>> Okay, this is um pork that with the Okay, this Oh my I'm going to teach you.

So, get a piece of lettuce. Just like a big one is fine, too. Yes. You grab a piece.

>> You grab a bit of sauce like that.

>> Whoa.

>> What? I'm just really excited. I need to come back here again. It's so funny. I

eat the same things every day and I still get excited.

>> Whenever you come to LA, I'm going to take you to my favorite spot.

>> Please.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> I love that.

>> I realized that I haven't acknowledged.

>> I started this episode and I referred to you as Rosé.

>> Oh, yes.

>> And then now I'm calling you Rosie.

>> Something happened. something happens

cuz I think a lot of people are familiar with, >> you know, pop stars have these alter egos on stage >> and then they're also a little bit potentially different behind the scenes.

Can you talk about what the difference is between those two personas? I think

um you know like I started off as uh my whole career started as Blackpink and I feel like uh it was so much fun creating

this character on stage cuz I'm just from like Australia like in my bedroom but like it was so much fun creating this like pop star like >> character. It was so much fun. And um

>> character. It was so much fun. And um

and then I think creating my first solo album, it was my discovery of like, you know, who am I? And like when I was naming the album, I really thought a lot

about it. There was like options like,

about it. There was like options like, you know, number one girl. And then a lot of people did like was like what about Rosie? And at first I was like h

about Rosie? And at first I was like h seems a bit like narcissistic. I was

worried that I'm like I'm not sure. And

then it slowly grew on me and then you know just the idea of it being rosy cuz rosé is has been such a big part of my

life and that's what we present ourselves as black pink black pink rosé >> and I felt like this was very opposite

and so I noticed that it was closer to kind of introducing a different version of me uh like cuz it combined all the stories I would talk

about with my friends and family and they call me Rosie at home and of course the online name that the company had made for me from at the beginning of

Blackpink. I remember when it happened.

Blackpink. I remember when it happened.

It was like the day before they released my picture profile picture they were like Ros and like the name got announced.

>> And did you get to pick that or did they come up with it?

>> They actually came up with it and I freaked out. It was like I think it was

freaked out. It was like I think it was like eight hours before it came out and I was like I was like what >> I mean it's a great name but like

>> I love it now but at the time I was like what is Rosé? I'm like at first I was like I sound like a grandma >> at the beginning until it like has settled.

>> Did you know that you were going to have a different name presented or did you think you were going to be presented as Rosie?

>> I don't know. I don't think I really thought about that.

>> And everyone called me Rosie. And I

guess back then I I had no like no clue about like I'd never questioned what's my name going to be even. I never even questioned that. And then they were

questioned that. And then they were like, "Hear me out, Rosie." And then they like typed it on the computer and they're like, "Look, it's going to look so cool." And then I saw it on screen

so cool." And then I saw it on screen and that's when I was like, "Okay, it looks nice." You know? Yeah. And so

looks nice." You know? Yeah. And so

>> come find me.

>> Perfect timing.

>> Okay.

>> Oh, wait. We still haven't tried your favorite thing.

>> That one might be a bit interesting.

We'll see if you like.

>> What do you mean by that, Rosie?

>> It's dry.

>> What are you trying to say? Should I go for it?

>> So, it's dry squid.

>> Okay.

>> And then I usually just >> dip it in the green one. Green one. It's

a bit spicy, so you have >> I don't know how good you are with spicy. I'm not sure. I think I'm pretty

spicy. I'm not sure. I think I'm pretty good.

>> Okay, >> I said that.

>> Wait, take take that big chunk off yet?

That might be better.

>> Feel like I'm not trying to kill you on our first hangout. Okay,

>> it's really hard.

>> Okay, >> you have to chew on it. Chew on it.

>> Chew it or rip it.

>> Chew on it. Just take your time.

>> Okay.

Okay.

>> You're like, what?

>> I didn't I wasn't ready for that.

It's just it's not that crazy, but it goes really well with beer.

You're like, >> "What?" This is why I was so excited for

>> "What?" This is why I was so excited for this, though, because I would never have ordered this myself cuz I would have been like, "What is that? I don't even know what to do with that." And the fact that I now have enough information that

I can go to my friends and be like, "This with beer >> is amazing."

>> Oh, that's really interesting.

I've never tasted anything like it.

>> I think if somebody introduced that to me like after I grew up, I'd be like, "What?" But my parents would like every

"What?" But my parents would like every time we watch TV together, my mom would like get one and then like, you know, kind of grill it over the stove and bring it. It's like nice and warm and

bring it. It's like nice and warm and then it just be like so good.

>> I want to talk to you about how we don't obviously have this in America, but you are literally referred to as an idol, right? Mhm.

right? Mhm.

>> And the pressures that initially come with that culturally when you come to Korea and you become a K-pop star, like how has that impacted your self-esteem?

I think from a young age, it's just kind of like trained my brain to dream like big. And

I think which is crazy that this is kind of almost happening now is that like I always kind of thought like I really want to like be as big as like I don't like like

Beyonce and I I loved her and like Michael Jackson and I thought like I'm going to be big and then I guess over the years I think reality kind of

hit. Now looking back, I think it it

hit. Now looking back, I think it it means way more to me than I thought it does. And myself and many other girls

does. And myself and many other girls and kids around the world who are now seeing a bit of a difference in

culture and I think it does excite me and it scares me a little bit to be honest. Um, but ultimately I think it'll

honest. Um, but ultimately I think it'll just make me really happy if any girl in like high school now just feels like they can go to school and talk about

Korean food that they like or anything different or type of music they like. So

whatever that music is, even if it's not like the cool thing at school where everybody likes it, even if it's a bit different, then everyone accepts, oh, there are people who like different

things and we're all we're all from the same world and we're all now connected, you know, with this era of media and >> technology. I'm I'm grateful to be a

>> technology. I'm I'm grateful to be a part of it, but I think now I'm I'm just like, you know, it's a bit like I'm so flabbergasted. Well, it's cool, too,

flabbergasted. Well, it's cool, too, because what you're essentially saying is you didn't have fully someone of representation that you could look up to

as a kid that was diverse in the way of where they came from and what they did and what they were doing and what they wanted and they weren't vocal about it and because maybe that there wasn't a platform or there

did wasn't someone who existed. You're

now the girl that you wished you could have looked up to as a young >> child. I think so. I

>> child. I think so. I

>> So, how cool that you're providing that for young women now, even if you're different, even if you don't have the same story of the people that you see online, then create your own story and share your own story. And how beautiful

is that?

>> Yeah. And I was just thinking as you were speaking like uh even vice versa like even coming to Korea I think there was a moment where I was like oh I wish I was just I wish I went to school here

and I wish I like knew the same jokes as all the other girls and I I wish I was as cool as like the girls who went to school here in Korea cuz I was just like I'm like a foreign I kind of seem like a foreigner like my accent is a little

different and the way I say things isn't as cool as the other girls here. So vice

versa. I think there was even a period that while I was here too, like I wished like I was part of like the majority.

Um, and so I think it's it's it just obviously proves to show that like anyone around the world can feel a bit isolated and a bit alienated. Um, but

it's amazing to see so many people like just being given the same platform and the given the same flowers that as anyone else has who has achieved something or has done something amazing

or um has worked really hard on something and I get nervous thinking about it and I don't know why. I feel

like I just everything's happening so quick.

>> Yeah.

>> But >> why like you feel like you don't have time to digest it and like kind of sit back >> just understand the meaning like what that means to me. I think I always kind of thought it was very simple, like if I

get up on stage and even the VMAs, you know, >> um, and just I thought it'd be very simple and like straightforward, but I feel like maybe cuz I, you know, a lot of different things like

>> it's complicated.

>> Yeah. Who do I want to be for the people that I want to inspire and what does that mean to me? First of all, like navigating all of that, but just this whole thing has just been really, really incredible to watch.

>> I also think that, and that's so relatable for a lot of young women and older women is like feel like we're always lost in

and torn between feeling comfortable in our own skin, feeling like an other in a room, like you said, feeling like you wished you could relate to those girls, but now that's actually your superpower

that you had this advantage of. But at

the time when you feel like the other, there's nothing worse than that. But

then you have the perspective of what that made you special and >> you wish someone would tell you that anyone watching and listening of like why do I feel alienated and why do I

feel alone and how do I make sense of this and it's like sometimes you really just have to live through it and not try to over complicate it >> and just let yourself be in your emotions

>> and a lot of times it just has to be perspective lived experience right >> but we all are so understandably insecure and we want to fit in because that's human.

>> Yeah, we're human.

>> We just want to feel normal.

>> And here we are from such different cultures and such different backgrounds.

And I feel like already being in Korea, I was so excited to immerse myself in this culture and learn about you. And I

feel like there's so many similarities that I find between us as human beings >> and to feel like home wherever you are.

Just as long as people connect like that. I think it's it's like it's really

that. I think it's it's like it's really magical and I feel really grateful. I

wanted to thank you for inviting me to your show this weekend.

>> Oh, yes.

>> Yes. To anyone who doesn't know, um, Rosie has a Blackpink concert this weekend, which I'm going to be going to.

And so, I thought it would be fun for us to maybe >> head to your recording studio >> and talk a little bit more about the magic behind how this album came to be.

So, I think we finish eating >> and then we and then we get into it.

>> Sounds good. Okay.

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Oh my gosh, it looks exactly like your studio. This is so good.

studio. This is so good.

>> I feel like I've like I'm >> We're in Los Angeles. We have your gorgeous famous dog with us today. Your

mom's just going to talk about a couple things about her album and then you'll be done. Tell me about what headsp space

be done. Tell me about what headsp space you need to be in to be your best in the studio. I just need to

studio. I just need to not think. Personally,

not think. Personally, personally, the last album I realized that it was so much more free flowing in

the studio when I was just myself fully.

I feel like everybody has stories to tell on like a dayto-day basis and like usually you would maybe talk to your therapist about it or you talk to your boyfriend about it or you talk to your best friend about it but I'd kind of

save that and anytime I felt something um felt like speaking my mind I would quickly find a studio and the people

that I love to work with and just pop in and I would just you know kind of let it out there just so that well for the last album so that it feels very intimate and

so it feels like a journal.

>> A lot of times when you write something down in the exact moment, you may not feel that way tomorrow, right? So to be able to capture exactly how you were feeling in that moment, it's important.

>> No, I agree. I actually like have thought about that recently as in like um listening back to some of these songs. I'm kind of shocked because there

songs. I'm kind of shocked because there was obviously like a time in my life where I was but this was a really big subject but like now I think about it

like I'm like wait oh yeah yeah no I think I remember but if I listen to the songs it was such a thing >> and you were so affected by it and now you're kind of like oh that thing

>> but to imagine that these things just get lost in time there's an unreleased song that I heard randomly I was getting my makeup done for like something and I was like, "What happened to that one

song?" And then like I searched it on my

song?" And then like I searched it on my phone and I found it and I played it and I I remember I almost cried because I was like, "Oh my god, I was really

serious about that and I almost forgot."

I was like, "Oh yeah, that happened.

Next."

>> Why didn't you release the song?

>> I wrote it after the album. It's more

like a recent thing.

>> Oh my god. Would you ever release it?

>> That one I would love to. It is one of my favorite ones. But and then I only realized that it was such a special song months after. I remember when I wrote

months after. I remember when I wrote it, I was like, "Oh, it's a bit cringe."

That's what I thought in the moment. So,

it was obviously too vulnerable at the time. I was like, "H I don't know. It's

time. I was like, "H I don't know. It's

just too too sweet and I don't know. I

don't like it." Um, but then I heard it again months later when I was completely over that and I was like, "Oh my god."

>> Right? Like it's so sweet and honest to what you were going through. And I was just like, I almost forgot about that.

>> Wow. Okay, we're going to get into all of this. Late 2023, Blackpink took a

of this. Late 2023, Blackpink took a break so that you and all the other women could pursue their own careers.

What were those behindthe-scenes conversations like?

>> Um, well, we kind of had like a time frame to kind of decide what we're going to do. And you know, we had fans waiting to

do. And you know, we had fans waiting to hear about how things are going to be um after that long contract ended. Um and

so I remember we were on tour then the last tour. So there were a lot of times

last tour. So there were a lot of times we were like, you know, together, we were like on flights together and it didn't happen over like one conversation. And it happened over a few

conversation. And it happened over a few and um and it evolved and I think we allowed each other enough time to you

know kind of really think through what we as a group and individually want. you

know, we still still have a few things we need to do as the as Blackpink and you know, we have to have more time to celebrate the things we've achieved, but

we are also growing up right now and we haven't had enough time to be fully ourselves or explore that ever. We

weren't really allowed that. Um, and so we allowed ourselves that one year and to see all the things that all the members have accomplished. Um, it's

really fun to watch and I think it's Yeah.

>> Were you guys nervous to tell the fans?

>> Um, I don't think so because we had the plan to be back and we're on that tour right now, the promise that we had made. I

think it was such a healthy decision that we were more excited um to announce that. Obviously, there's so much

that. Obviously, there's so much speculation because I agree like everyone kind of knew that that was a long contract and then to resign a contract. I think obviously so many of

contract. I think obviously so many of your fans were so excited understandably. I don't know how much

understandably. I don't know how much you can share but like is it longer? Is

it shorter than the first one? Can you

give us any details?

>> Um I don't know about length but for sure we learned much more.

>> Yes. about um the things we should really like focus on for the benefit of the whole business. Um and so yes, it took much longer than the first

contract. I don't even remember doing

contract. I don't even remember doing the first one. Like when did we even do that? We just like sat down and

that? We just like sat down and >> signed your name.

>> Yeah. Did we even read? No, I'm sure we did not read through anything. But I do know that there are a lot of other people who do sign things early on in their career without that. So um you

know now even more we're more aware and we understand the weight of signing these things as musicians and again about protecting yourself of course cuz

it also comes with experience right like I have signed contracts myself and I remember when I was so young like you don't know what you want with your career you don't know where you're going and I think what's so beautiful is you

guys having this time to have your independence you've also grown as individuals And so you're now able to advocate for yourselves in a way that you didn't you maybe weren't capable before.

>> I agree.

>> Have you guys ever talked about what would happen if one of you didn't want to continue in Blackpink?

I think we've don't remember like specific conversations but no I think I think yeah if one of us feels like at that

time that's not the right thing then we're all in we we will we will we will understand and black like any relationship if one person is not ready

for something then it should just be respected and I think we will all always be ready to do that because Blackpink is only

four members first of all. So we will not be able to neglect anyone's you know decision at any time in their life and we trust that every decision made is you

know the right decision for each person.

So yeah.

>> Okay. Fans are constantly I feel like they do this to every group but like they're always speculating obviously of like what is the group's dynamic and are you guys sisters? Are you best friends?

Are you just co-workers? like what's the vibe like? I want to hear from you. How

vibe like? I want to hear from you. How

would you describe your relationship with the women in Blackpink today?

>> I think it's all of that. I feel like um we're best friends, we are sisters, we're like family, we are colleagues.

>> What else did you say? What what else was on the table? It's really all of that combined. It's I do agree that it

that combined. It's I do agree that it is a very unique um relationship that we have but over time

more layers have added been added on to the type of relationship we have but even more so I think it feels more solid

and as I've actually had that one year apart from the girls which we were very much apart everyone was so busy flying around

the world like we couldn't tell who was where. Um,

where. Um, we've also created unique experiences outside of Blackpink after coming after, you know, sharing all of that together

and growing together. We all went out and um, experienced the world um, individually past that.

But to come back with those experiences, there's nothing better to feel like there's somebody that understands exactly how you might have felt or what

you feel. Um,

you feel. Um, and it is a unique unique experience.

Um, as everyone has their own, but just knowing that even my like actual family doesn't understand what I feel sometimes or even my best friend doesn't see the

world exactly how I've seen it.

But, you know, there are so much in my life that Blackpink understands. And so,

it's so nice to meet like the girls along the way of this whole journey and being able to talk about things and feel like I'm being heard and understood and

I don't have to make it up. I don't have to explain over like hours about why I'm feeling this type of way. Um, and I feel like that's just going to keep growing

over the years.

>> Did you have the girls listen to the album before it came out?

>> Um, we were so apart when that happened.

I let Lisa listen to a few when I was in Korea and she was in Korea. I'm like,

"Thank God you're here."

>> What was her reaction?

>> She loved 3:00 a.m. It was named something different back then. Um, we

were traveling so much that I and then I met Jenny once in New York.

>> Wait, what was 3:00 a.m. called before

3:00 a.m.?

>> Um, Want It to Be You.

>> Okay, let's talk about the album.

Obviously, the Grammys are coming up.

You are Grammy nominated. How are you feeling?

>> Oh, wait. That's a big question.

>> I know.

>> I was like, wait, >> you're like talking about Lisa and like 3:00 a.m. Then I'm like, yeah, hi. We're

3:00 a.m. Then I'm like, yeah, hi. We're

Grammy nominated. How are you feeling?

>> It feels like I I thought of this when you asked me about um getting selected uh to from YG at that open audition to

fly to Korea and I was trying to like and then it it made me think I think it's the same feeling as this nomination. I remember when that

happened. It was like I thought that

happened. It was like I thought that would never happen. Like I never thought I would ever fly to Korea and live in that city ever. Like I always kind of

dreamed of like it'd be so fun to live in Korea. Like I grew up in New Zealand

in Korea. Like I grew up in New Zealand and Australia. So I'm like just living

and Australia. So I'm like just living in Asia and that city is just like so fun and different.

Thought it would never happen and and going there to like you know chase after my dreams like how fun. And then again, this Grammy nomination, it feels like,

oh my gosh, I I never thought that would be possible.

And like, yes, Blackpink and we're getting so much love and I'm I'm so grateful for that and it's so exciting, but but that I didn't think my I didn't

think it would be a possibility, but I feel like they're quite similar.

So, it's like the second chapter of my life being like, "Oh my gosh, >> it's really exciting and it's incredible what you've done and to come out with the solo album, be Grammy nominated for

these songs. Like, it's it's incredible

these songs. Like, it's it's incredible and you should be so proud of yourself."

>> Hey, thank you.

>> I want to ask about your song number one girl. In a lot of interviews, you've

girl. In a lot of interviews, you've obviously referred to the song as disgustingly vulnerable. Talk to me a

disgustingly vulnerable. Talk to me a little bit more about what you meant by this.

Well, this one was about like I'm sure you go to a lot of events when you're in LA. There are like so many fun exciting

LA. There are like so many fun exciting events that you feel so lucky to be invited to and it's like so glamorous and fun. But I was like invited to an

and fun. But I was like invited to an event and it was at the very beginning of this one year before this one year like started. And I went to the event um

like started. And I went to the event um and I felt like just really like I was in a place that was supposed to feel so glamorous and

exciting. I felt really like like I was

exciting. I felt really like like I was comparing myself to everyone. I didn't

know how to act. And I remember coming back home feeling really depressed and like gh I don't feel very special or good. And then the next day I remember I

good. And then the next day I remember I just like cried in the hotel and then I was like on Instagram.

>> Oh, that's literally the worst combo.

You're crying and then you're like let me open Instagram. Then you're like >> Yeah.

>> That just made it worse.

>> Yeah. And there were like comments it like there were comments about like where is she going with her career? she

hasn't announced this this or that. Like

she has no idea what she's doing. And I

had just started the year to like I'd gifted, you know, you know, with the group, we've gifted ourselves this time

to be free and explore and and really kind of just for myself, I think I don't know. I I feel like I can't speak for the other girls, but for

me, I think I was looking for what my passion was. again and what made me

passion was. again and what made me really happy and driven and excited and it hadn't even started

but that's what I saw and I was just like oh my gosh I feel terrible. Um and

I was I remember in the morning I had a session that day and I was getting ready and like I couldn't put my like makeup on cuz I was like it was bad day you

know we go through it once in a while.

>> Of course. Of course. Yeah. And then um I got to the studio and they were like, "What should we write about?" I'm like, "I don't know. I've just been feeling

really really bad." Like I feel really really just I feel [ __ ] basically. And

it sparked. I was like, I can we write a song that's cuz I know a lot of songs can kind of have hope in it and have these hopeful feelings in it, but that's

not how I felt. And I needed a song that I could relate to cuz a lot of the times on the like I I want to be presented to my fans as like I'm independent. I don't

need people's approval. I don't I'm my own thing. We love to be that way but

own thing. We love to be that way but it's not really realistic >> realistic.

That is why your fans were so receptive of this because yes it could be considered as a human being you're like is this embarrassing? I'm wanting this validation and I'm wanting this

attention. And I think it's such a

attention. And I think it's such a relatable feeling, but it's something that we keep really close to our chest and we're embarrassed sometimes to admit.

>> I was so embarrassed of myself. That was

the day I think I woke up and I was like, "Oh my god, I feel so embarrassed." Like I I don't feel

embarrassed." Like I I don't feel confident at all, but like how embarrassing. I was on Instagram all

embarrassing. I was on Instagram all night looking at these comments and I felt embarrassed that I had let those emotions really affect me. How do you

think for you personally your desire for validation and acceptance has impacted the way that you let people treat you?

>> I have let people get away with I think a lot of things that has made me sad and like has made me cry. I think I let a lot of things make me really really sad.

But I I've noticed this thing where I sometimes protect people and I don't know why. I think I I'd like to think I have a lot of love for um

certain people in my life. Uh but

uh to a to to a certain extent that I want to be validated by them and then their actions of making me actually sad

or feel sad is forgiven and I turn that around and I understand them and that and then I and

then I would probably blame myself. Um,

I'm still living through that. I'd like

to think that's because I'm still in my 20ies and hopefully people say when you're like when you turn 30 then like things start to make sense. So, I'm just hoping that kicks in soon. You're like I feel like in a couple years it's really

going to turn around for me. No, that's

relatable. It's like you can't please please if you're up there please. Um,

let's talk about a major theme that I do think relates to this, which is in your album is toxic relationships, right? Um,

you open up about some of the toughest moments that >> you've been through in your life essentially.

>> How was writing about these feelings healing for you?

I think first of all even in therapy I feel like the main thing the therapist kind of makes you do is acknowledge your

emotions. Um but a lot of emotions I

emotions. Um but a lot of emotions I feel like is kind of looked down on. Um,

and that's a good thing because online and on media like we're we're encouraging each other to love yourself more and accept yourself

more and be confident in yourself. Like

don't be sad, be confident, be a boss girl. Right.

girl. Right.

>> Right. Sounds so easy.

>> Yeah. Sounds very easy. No, it's

obviously not. Um, and so I feel like first of all being just true to how I really felt and I don't know if it was easy because it was my first time in LA

and I didn't really know anyone. Kind of

just like talked about anything and everything. I might be more conscious

everything. I might be more conscious about it now, but at that time I just like talked about everything. Like I

would be like, "Oh my gosh, I did this and I did that and honestly I feel this and that." And it just be funny. and

and that." And it just be funny. and

make fun of myself, but it was just true. And so as I did that, I was

true. And so as I did that, I was accepting my flaws.

And it's so funny because over time now when I do that, I realize

I do become more conscious because I I want I want valid. I'm you

know, I have that in me too. when I talk about some like certain themes or like some certain subjects, I do kind of go like like maybe I shouldn't feel that.

Maybe I should act more sophisticated.

Maybe I should act a bit more like I have more self-respect because sometimes I don't. But I think

I don't. But I think >> relatable.

>> So real.

>> Yeah. And of course a lot of the times I do I do love and respect myself, but then like you know sometimes like I'm still growing up and kind of navigating the world of like you know wanting to be loved. Of course,

loved. Of course, >> I have sometimes, you know, abandoned some of these things. And um yes, later on I I could

things. And um yes, later on I I could regret it. Like a more mature version of

regret it. Like a more mature version of myself, a more experienced version of myself could be like, "Rose, you don't need to be like that." But I feel like in the moment, like I'm still learning

and growing. But then I so like in these

and growing. But then I so like in these songs is that's me just being um accepting that emotion for what it is and laughing about it at the same time

but not being conscious about of about of like what other people would be thinking about me.

>> But I think that's why people were so receptive of this album because I feel like you've spent the majority of your career. We saw you trying to be this

career. We saw you trying to be this perfect girl, right? And there was an image that was upheld with that. But I

think then your fans would assume like there's no way this girl has experienced heartbreak or there's no way that Rosie would get herself into a toxic relationship. Like she's better that and

relationship. Like she's better that and it's like no, we've all been there. So I

think it was a breath of fresh air probably for your fans to be like oh my god you too. I think it felt really liberating just talking about it and being reckless cuz anyone who really like cares for

love loves me might be like Rosie just don't say that. People might think you're a bit like a bit of a wreck. But

I kind of didn't care and I I felt so liberated. But the funny thing is even

liberated. But the funny thing is even after feeling that feeling so free. I

think I have come out of it and I still experience the shame of like I do feel this but then I like say it and then I go is that person going to think I'm

like I don't have enough selfrespect. I

really want to like stop doing that but it's a habitual thing where I try to keep filtering the things I say. I feel

like society also kind of makes you feel that shame.

>> Yes. Feel bad. Like why aren't you better? Why didn't you leave? Why did

better? Why didn't you leave? Why did

you stay for so long? I wrote down that in one of your songs, you know, you talk about knowing the relationship was unhealthy from the beginning. That is so relatable, but you're like, wait, but

like it also feels good sometimes. For

you, what were the signs that it was toxic?

>> I mean, I was young, too. It was just not a good match, but we liked each other. We just kept it going for a bit.

other. We just kept it going for a bit.

Um, and yeah, I I think it's just like now I know a bit better than that to identify

>> we might not be very happy together maybe. But

maybe. But >> but I also think again having grace is like so many young women will be listening to this and it's like >> the feelings of love and happiness

>> they bring you back even if there is something toxic or there is a red flag, right? It's like

right? It's like >> because then you move forward and you forget the red flag because then you go to dinner and then you're happy.

>> Experienced that yet.

>> Yeah. You're like, "Girl, this is happening to me right now. Thank you."

Um full therapy session. Um, what is something you know you will never put up with again?

>> First of all, if they're kind of like not being like super nice to your friends or family, as in I think they should make an extra effort.

>> People that are not good to your friends and family, I agree. Ladies, if you're watching this, like, please note that you're not being crazy and your friends and family aren't being crazy cuz

sometimes they can convince you like, >> oh, you know, so it's like, no, no, no.

>> Yeah. Like, if I've introduced this girl as my best friend, she's my best friend.

You can't be like, I was busy talking to other people and she's my best friend.

>> Put in the work.

>> Yeah. because I would if I meet anyone that's, you know, my boyfriend's best friend, I'd be like, "Oh my god, I I want to be extra nice to that person cuz

I care." So, it's very weird if

I care." So, it's very weird if somebody's like It just means he's either thinks he's really amazing or he doesn't really respect you.

>> Yeah.

>> Or hasn't learned how to respect a partner.

>> I agree. One of your favorite lyrics you wrote was that I wrote down from your album was, "Did letting me down get tiring?"

tiring?" >> How in your life, in past relationships, have you felt let down?

>> Uh, all the ex.

Yeah. I don't think all of the exes maybe.

>> No, Rosie.

>> I mean, let down.

Let me think. All of them except one.

You're like, "Girl, we're a work in progress." Okay. Yes, we've talked a

progress." Okay. Yes, we've talked a little bit about the themes from your album and they did give a little insight into your dating life, but I recognize

that you have never been in a public relationship. Why do you think for you

relationship. Why do you think for you keeping partners completely private is the right approach for you right now?

>> Um, I think a lot of it has to do to protect the person that I love. Um, I've

noticed that it hurts more uh if like any of my friends are attacked or the closer the person is, if they're

ever attacked, it really really is is like hurtful. Um, and also I am okay cuz

like hurtful. Um, and also I am okay cuz I'm in the public eye and it's my job and it comes with the territories and I'm like, okay, whatever. Uh, but you

know, I think it's a bit unfair. But I

not saying like I'm against it. But like

for now with the like fan base that I've experienced, um, which I would love to in the future maybe really fully trust the media to

protect me and be there for me, then I might feel comfortable. But for now, I don't know if I felt um completely safe.

Um, I'm sure a lot of other people understand what that feels like and and experiences that.

>> I think that's really understandable.

I'm curious had someone feel like you're hiding them cuz I could see that if like then the partner's like, "Wait, are you just keeping me private cuz you don't want to share me with the world or have they been

understanding?"

understanding?" >> Uh, I think it's been like a two-way thing like both ways.

Um I think one of the toxic ones.

>> Yeah, that's like I feel like how every conversation starts. So one of the toxic

conversation starts. So one of the toxic ones actually I'm like >> yeah cuz there are some toxic ones not not toxic ones. There are some where like you feel where that's coming from

like the protecting, you know, element of it and and I believe it. But there was one if I think

believe it. But there was one if I think about it now. I look back on it and I'm like, >> why were you so paranoid?

>> Like what?

>> Like wait, you're not the superstar over here. I can like say it like that now,

here. I can like say it like that now, but I'm like I do kind of look back be like wait

cuz I was I think I was younger then. Um

I was more younger and like more I guess more insecure and I was just very like I'm like in love and whatever. But then

anytime he'd be like, "Oh, like even like to his friends, he would kind of he'd be like, "Oh, I just I'm just going to go with like hang out with my friends." And like it's just I don't

friends." And like it's just I don't want to have you there cuz it's like and he'd make it seem like he's trying to like limit like talk or whatever. But

I'm like, why did you need that?

>> You're like, but again, that's what we're talking about, right? You're like

in hindsight, you're like, >> that doesn't make sense. At that time I thought he was really serious about his job and I was like that's hard >> Rosie.

>> I was like like you're so serious about it that No. And then some people are and I really respect it because you know for the things that you want to do we want to we don't have to have I just I don't feel that way either. We don't have to

have our like love life involved in it and I respect that because I feel that a lot of the times too. But then with that guy, he was like overly like like no, we

can't do like anything. Like we can't go anywhere. Now I think about it, I'm like

anywhere. Now I think about it, I'm like sure we could have done I've met people after you who are bit way more like higher profile than you that was just

like that would do crazier like you know more things with me and I'd be like you're not and I remember the first time they would want to do things I'd be like you're okay with that and I was so

gaslighted being like you're okay doing that and they're like why not? And I'd

be like, "Oh, >> oh, cuz I learned from this other ex that like we couldn't do any of that.

>> Anything."

>> Dude, that's so real though when you have exes to compare to where all of a sudden you're like, "Wait a second."

>> Yeah. Why are you okay with this?

>> That wasn't normal.

>> But in the moment, you convince yourself. Here you are, Rosie. You're

yourself. Here you are, Rosie. You're

convincing yourself he cares about his job so much that >> I was like, "Oh my god, he cares about he's such a That's so hard."

>> I was like, "No."

And now you're like, "Wait, I was fully getting gaslit and he was fully acting like I know that is." But again, it's so real. It's so relatable. Like, you don't

real. It's so relatable. Like, you don't even have to be famous to be in this situation where a girl is like, "Dude, I'm in high school. I'm in college and this kid like won't bring me to the party and I'm thinking it's because like he's protecting me." Meanwhile, it's

like, "Babe, he he may have a side he may have a side girl that he doesn't want you knowing about or whatever it is." And then you put two and two

is." And then you put two and two together and you're like, >> "Yeah, >> okay. Okay. I'm not gonna let that

>> okay. Okay. I'm not gonna let that happen to me again.

>> Yeah, I I still can't tell why he >> I don't know. It's weird. Okay. Well,

>> like I'm gonna write that in my journal tonight and try to do that math equation and figure that one out soon. Um, okay.

How have you avoided getting your picture taken with a man and paparazzi and all that?

>> Oh my gosh.

>> You're good. You You're good.

>> I've had some crazy ones.

I once was so paranoid. Wait, I Oh my god.

No. What? I was so paranoid. I'm like, I can never be like, you know, seen ever.

And like I ordered online from like it's basically like Amazon but in Korea.

>> Are you going to tell me you got a wig?

>> I got a wig. I got a black curly wig, like a short one, and then I ordered like I studied how like older people,

like elderly women would dress on the street. Like I'd be like, "Okay, they

street. Like I'd be like, "Okay, they wear that kind of a skirt and then those shoes and that kind of a bag and I would like study it and I would order it and I dressed up."

dressed up." >> And then you would go on a date looking like an older woman. I would go like like to his house like because we can't go anywhere like

>> I would like travel that way just in case somebody I did that once and >> wait. said, "Then would you show up to

>> wait. said, "Then would you show up to his house and like rip the wig off and the granny like I'm here?"

I be like, "I've arrived." And he's like, "Can you

"I've arrived." And he's like, "Can you take off your prosthetic nose and your wig and your granny panties like can you get back to Rosie for a second? You

fully are walking in like an 80-year-old woman." Like and so like for a while in

woman." Like and so like for a while in my house, you know, we got rid of it now, but like I had like a whole section of just grandma clothes cuz I I went

wild. I just ordered like all like light

wild. I just ordered like all like light blue like flowery skirt but like all like long skirts so that I could cover all my elements.

>> How long did this phase of dressing up like a granny last?

>> I think at least 6 months.

>> Rosie, you were committed.

>> I was so committed to keep the secret.

Did he ever dress up like a grandpa to go to your house?

>> I think he kind of did. Yeah. Like a

little more grandpaish, but not as crazy as like a wig cuz I needed a wig. And then I think at one point like I even imitated how she would how they would walk.

>> When we saw this, I need you to show me how you >> Oh, and the funniest thing, I don't even know if I should say this. This is so funny. I met my grandma the other day

funny. I met my grandma the other day and I was looking at what she was wearing and I'm like and then I go to my mom. I'm like, "Mom,

mom. I'm like, "Mom, is that the" And she's like, "Oh my god, it is." And she's like, "That's her

it is." And she's like, "That's her favorite coat.

She was wearing one of the ones that I would wear, Rosie."

Rosie." >> And mom's like, "I go I go, is that the She's like, it is. That's her favorite coat." And I was like, "I'm dying." Once

coat." And I was like, "I'm dying." Once

you were over your granny phase, your mom was like, "Okay, Rosie, can I at least now give this to your actual grandmother so she can put this to good use?"

use?" >> After I broke up with that ex, I moved on to my moved on to it. I'm like, I had a new one. And then she said, "You're not going to wear this anymore, are you?" And then I'm like, "Nope,

you?" And then I'm like, "Nope, >> we're turning over a new leaf. I'm going

to actually show up to his house looking like my damn self." That is iconic.

>> Oh, okay. Do you prefer to date someone in the industry or not in the industry?

>> Um, in Wait, how? What? I'm so Okay. In only

Wait, how? What? I'm so Okay. In only

because >> they get it.

>> Yeah. There was like a phase where cuz from 16 I'm just like not even fully formed human being yet. going to this

dorm like full time in that space and everyone I meet is just related to that to whatever I'm doing. Um, you know, I

only met teachers. I only met other girls that were training with me. I only

met like the producers there like every day from that to like coming out as like pink when I would meet like um even like

cousins I would kind of feel like I don't know how to act. Um, and most more than that I think I cuz I don't know

what the experiences cuz everyone just usually goes to school, goes to college and whatnot has like a sim like somewhat of a similar

you know experience growing up but I would like meet people and be like I don't know what you're thinking and and their expressions and I was just really just you didn't trust them.

>> Yeah. And I was just like inexperienced even like talk meeting new people and talking about things and I'd always feel like such an alien. They would talk about like all these things and I'd be

like I don't know how to relate to it.

All I know is, you know, what I've done, right?

>> Like three years ago, I was like in a dorm and that's the only thing I know how to um share. And and also like being private and stuff like going out and like how I always feel really conscious

like I'd be out at a restaurant and I'd always be like, "Oh, I think somebody's taking a picture." And then somebody being like, "I don't think they're taking a picture." But then me feeling like sensitive about that. I didn't

blame them. I would blame myself. be

like I am so paranoid that I don't want to make people feel uncomfortable. So

even with that um I'd felt um kind of like a bit of a distance growing up and so partners too I think for me to feel

fully just natural and like so if anything that guy being like we can't be I'd rather relate to that being like rather than like why aren't we going out like why aren't we >> post me on your Instagram.

>> Yeah that would freak me out even more.

>> So true. So, I think I felt more, if anything, more safe in that one. I'd

rather be more controlled that way because, you know, I relate to that feeling.

>> So, now we just need to find a non-toxic guy in the industry.

>> Yes, >> that's the goal.

>> So easy.

>> So easy. Like, there's so many of those.

>> Perfect.

>> I'm free like next week. So,

>> perfect. I'll let you know if I have anyone in mind. Um, thanks, babe. Are

you seeing anyone right now?

>> Oh my god, >> you almost just clung off the chair.

cuz I just feel like if I'm like no like it's such a lie. You can tell I am I am looking for love.

>> Okay, so maybe you're talking to someone.

>> Do you think it's really funny how I react to these questions?

>> Rosie physically clung on to the side of the chair. You moved your body away from the

chair. You moved your body away from the microphone. You looked at your best

microphone. You looked at your best friend for dear life and you were like, "Tell me what to say." And I'm like, "You know what?" But I respect it because you can tell like you've come

into this industry, you were trained to, you know, be a specific way. You've

worked so hard. You've been private. And

so I get it. Like to answer a question of like, are you seeing someone right now? You're like,

now? You're like, >> wait, am I allowed to answer that?

>> Like, oh my god, this is the first thing when you ask something like that, it's like >> like all the articles, all the comments, I just see it like rolled down. and who

has like been plotting my downfall being like this is the comment we take to for so if anything happens this is the

interview we go back to to tie this crazy story about how addicted to for example like that's all I think about so

I would love to just be like yes or no like but being like is this going to define who I am how sad How sad of a reality is that? That makes

me sad.

It makes me sad for like a lot of the industry and and how Oh my god, stop.

This is gross. No,

I'm only sad because it's like uh Oh my gosh, no.

I feel like it's just like a normal thing. Um, just because I was from a

thing. Um, just because I was from a K-pop group doesn't mean I am a different type of human being. I think

we're all born with legs and arms and you know, everyone's human and um I feel like just how

certain things like I have to not because it's me, but a lot of other people too h have to like think about that and me being a girl and what that

means to me. How will people try to use my comments to create something? And

it's not like I'm saying the craziest thing right now. No.

>> Am I saying like I killed someone? No.

>> No. I'm just asking if you're seeing someone. Not even if you have a

someone. Not even if you have a boyfriend. Like do you have someone that

boyfriend. Like do you have someone that you're currently texting that you whether you have a crush on or whatever it be? I guess my question back to you

it be? I guess my question back to you though when you just got emotional there which makes me sad for you too is like >> at what point do you think that you can

find a way to almost just live for yourself and be like you know what yes I'm seeing someone right now and

if the comments come the comments come but >> you also have to live your own life and you like >> I think it it puts in perspective when I sit with my grandmother, right, or my

husband's great-g grandandmother. And

she and you hear these older women especially say like, "I lived so much to please people and to be humble so I didn't come off as too much or whatever." And I just wish like why did

whatever." And I just wish like why did I do that? We are alive once, we're here once. Like yes, it's so incredible what

once. Like yes, it's so incredible what your career is, but like how is how are you are you fulfilled in >> hiding so much, right? Like will there be a point where maybe you're like you

know what [ __ ] it >> that's why I feel like writing that album made me feel closer to that and oh

my god like a lot has actually changed um after number one girl I'm not joking but there were so many people online who would tell me what to do with the way I

put my makeup on the way I was dressed on stage they would like harass my hair and makeup team online. See, again,

those people are people I love and that work with me and you know that's part of my team and those are my best friends too. Um, but I've felt like the ache

too. Um, but I've felt like the ache where when you know people on online they know I feel like they know what they're doing like they they're really

mean to them and that like affects me.

Um, and they be like do this to your hair, do that to your hair, why are you not doing this and that. I got closer to it because after number one girl came out um you know that happened. Uh but

after I explained the song, my team has not been getting comments like that anymore. And I remember it was such a big chunk of all of the girls

relate to it cuz we would talk about the stress of that like weird controlling of like kind of like m like a mom like one of those cheerleading what do you call it?

>> Like like a cheer mom.

>> Cheer mom. What do you call that?

>> Yeah, like a um a stage mom.

>> Stage mom >> who's like do this and look like this.

>> But you have like thousands online.

>> Millions.

>> Millions being like, >> "Girl, I love what you do, but please change your D." And you're like, >> "Wait, I like that little accent you just did. You went full valley girl on

just did. You went full valley girl on me."

me." >> You're like, "Girl, you better get your [ __ ] together."

>> Girl, I love you, but come on. Those are

not the shoes you want. Like that. and

and they would like do that. But my team hasn't been getting any of those comments and I haven't had any pop up.

And so after the after the album, one thing I love is that I don't I'm not I I'm not conscious about if my fans will

like or dislike my look today. And for

such a long time of my Korean Blackpink, I was so like, you know, insecure and conscious about what my fans would say. They'd always be

like, "Put a full red lip on. Why can't

you do your makeup?" And I'm like, "Maybe I don't feel comfortable in that.

Maybe that's not fully me. Maybe that's

somebody else. Maybe some amaz like big celebrity online does that and is looks amazing and feels amazing that way but maybe when I do it I don't feel amazing.

So it's just like you're living a really heightened experience as a human being right now. You are figuring this out.

right now. You are figuring this out.

There is no book that anyone handed you to be like this is exactly how you get through this Rosie. When I go back to your comment about freedom is being anonymous, what you're really just

saying is freedom is people not being able to dictate if you feel comfortable to acknowledge that you're in a relationship or not or if you are having

a bad day or not. But I love though that one thing that you learned through this album is that actually being vulnerable and honest gave insight to people and allowed them to be like, "Oh, I'm not

going to make that comment again." And

maybe that next step for you could be allowing yourself to enjoy your romantic life and not being afraid that maybe people will come for you and that person and that who knows when that you'll be

ready for that, >> but maybe one day you'll be ready.

>> I don't think I'm fully that we're fully there yet because I can tell we come back to the, you know, toxic ways. The

media always finds its way back. But it

gives me hope. It gives me hope. I

really thought that me coming out of this, you know, um, industry, um, where I've come from, I didn't think I'd have hope. I thought, okay, I'm forever going

hope. I thought, okay, I'm forever going to live in this system where I can't fully accept the way I am because there they will twist and turn it, but I see a

bit of hope and I'm really, really happy about that.

>> I'm really happy for you.

>> Thank you.

>> Okay, should we go get a drink?

>> Please, >> let's go.

>> Let's go.

My name's >> Cheers again. We're back.

>> First of all, we need to talk about your song, Apat. Mhm.

song, Apat. Mhm.

>> Did I say that right?

>> Yes.

>> What was the moment you personally knew that this song was going to be a phenomenon?

>> Um I think I kind of it kind of slowly like I slowly warmed up to it because when we first created

it, I went home and I listened to it like all night till like like I had it on repeat. And it's quite a crazy song

on repeat. And it's quite a crazy song to have on repeat, but I slept to, you know, >> you slept to it. It just kept playing.

Oh my god, you're as psychopath. You're

like again again >> right? And then in the morning, I had my

>> right? And then in the morning, I had my producers and songwriters delete it off of their phones.

>> Oh, I read this somewhere. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah.

>> And I don't I still to this day don't quite know what it was that made me do that. I don't know if it was like

that. I don't know if it was like fear or of something or like >> did I feel like it was big or did I feel

a bit like scared of it? I'm not sure.

But I I feel like I'm just guessing, but I feel like it might have had something to do with the fact that it's so close to my culture. And I felt like it

sounded big, but I wanted it to be like right before people just had it on their phones and, you know, >> so nothing got misinterpreted or if you needed to fine-tune anything, you had the ability and it didn't just get sent out.

>> Yes. Cuz it had a big part of my culture in it. But I don't I'm not sure if I

in it. But I don't I'm not sure if I fully believed in it yet because it was like as it is, it's kind of like when everyone listens to it, especially from the beginning, it's like a Korean chant

and you're like, "What's happening?" And

then like the song starts and and then the chorus like we're just saying some random words. And so I wasn't sure so I

random words. And so I wasn't sure so I I got rid of it. And then slowly I started bringing it out and playing it to people that I trusted and that I loved. and um they would they really

loved. and um they would they really reacted to it. It's so funny because there are so many songs that has become like

like the main songs, you know, but every time I feel like it's something like that, I seem to hide it. And then I like I would play like 10 songs and then at

the end I'll be like, "Oh, this is just rough. This is like, you know, it's we

rough. This is like, you know, it's we were just like messing around. You might

not like it." and I'd play it and that's usually like the songs that like people seem to love which is weird.

>> Okay. But do you think it's because in your heart you know it's so good and then you're almost downplaying it to see if like do I think it's just this good?

>> Okay maybe.

>> And you're like testing to see like oh this is just a little thing and you're like am I the only one that thinks this?

And then you see the reaction you're like I was right. Oh my god I have something on my hands here.

>> I need to be convinced by people instead of me hyping it up first. I think I get scared of how I feel about it. So, I

don't want to hype it up and I just want to see people's like raw emote. Maybe

you're right. You're literally my therapist.

>> Honestly, we've been trying. We've been

trying today. We And can you clarify for anyone who maybe is not familiar with the Korean culture and appeta like what what is this chant and what does it mean

and what is the significance? So, it's

just like so when I turn 20, it's like a cultural thing where your friends who are already 20 um or over 20 would like get you in a

room and be like, "Today's the day you like you die from a hangover." And they will literally make you the craziest drink because, you know, you've just

waited your whole life. I even remember the day I turned 20. Um, Blackpink got me and Lisa and I turned 20 the same year. As soon as the year turns, you

year. As soon as the year turns, you know, like January 1st, you're allowed to drink. So, everybody like gets

to drink. So, everybody like gets together and um we did that too. Us four

were in the dorm and they were like, "Get ready, girls." It was the wildest night. And then like that's when we like

night. And then like that's when we like played the drinking games and it literally has been a part of my like 20ies living in Korea.

>> Who else is on your list of dream people you could collaborate with? Anyone?

>> Oh my gosh.

>> Give me like three.

>> That's way too hard.

>> Okay, two.

>> You know what? Now I see Miley on the screen. I would die to have a

screen. I would die to have a collaboration with her. She is

>> iconic.

>> Literally a legend. I love her so much.

You said that you met Taylor Swift and when you met her you wanted to ask her some questions. What advice did she give

some questions. What advice did she give you?

>> I was like so that was when I was like trying to look for a label and everything and and but before that I was learning about you know how to protect myself. What does everything mean? What

myself. What does everything mean? What

is it that I need? What is Yeah, even catered to myself. What is it that I want and therefore what do I need?

um I was navigating all that and you know I was really great I'm grateful enough to have like met her along the way at a party um that I was invited to

and and she was so nice like you know as she is and I we were chatting and and I explained why I was you know out in the

US and um then I was like oh I was kind of struggling with this and she's like ask me anything and she like you know pulled me aside and she's like ask me anything she was like you know whenever you need anything like ask me and she

was really really really helpful.

>> When did you find out that you were Grammy nominated and what was your reaction?

>> Um I remember I was in Korea. I had just gotten home um and then like I brushed my teeth was in my like PJs like fully and then I look at the time and then I

remember somebody from my team being like, "Oh, the nominations are coming out at 1:00 a.m. your time." And I I don't think cuz I've never really experienced this before. Now I know like to mark it in my calendar. It was kind

of funny. I'm like, "Oh, okay." So I go

of funny. I'm like, "Oh, okay." So I go back into like the text and there was a link and so like it was uh 12:50 a.m. 10

minutes away and I was like, "Oh." And

then I just like turn the TV on and put in the link and then I was like and it then it started and I'm like, "Okay."

And then I get a FaceTime from like my team and my sister and so and then I'm like, "Okay." And then like a category

like, "Okay." And then like a category comes out and I'm like should we just group call? And we did like a group

group call? And we did like a group FaceTime and then it just happened in like five minutes and it was just like oh my gosh wait I almost missed that but that did that just happen and then it

was done within like it was done so quick and I'm like okay I was going to go to sleep so I slept I I went to my bed I slept and then I woke up to like you know tons of messages from people

that you know were so excited and that's when it hit me. I was like, "Oh, wait.

This is crazy.

>> So exciting. I'm so excited for you." I

think that we sing karaoke to close out this incredible day and then after we sing karaoke.

>> I think we go to Tokyo and I watch you do the real thing on stage.

>> What a crazy life. Really like Let's go to Japan.

>> Let's just go to Japan.

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>> We're going to Tokyo baby like a bad little chick with a body on me like ring ring ring. Never met a girl like me in his dream.

No ring ring, but they got to look like me. They don't do it in the mornings.

me. They don't do it in the mornings.

I won't pick up at the moment.

>> We are having a pre-con drink in the lobby. This has been the most incredible

lobby. This has been the most incredible day. I'm so happy that we got to

day. I'm so happy that we got to experience Korea and Japan. And now

we're just getting ready to go see our girl do her thing.

Okay. Okay. Three, two, one, action.

>> Cheers. We're back. We're in Tokyo. We

made it.

>> Yay.

>> Cheers.

>> Cheers.

>> Okay, I have a gift for you. Bring them

in.

>> What?

>> Bring them in.

>> What?

>> These are so extra.

>> Oh my gosh. So extra. Oh my god. Thank

you so much.

>> You don't need to keep them the whole time, but I got these for you because I was like, they smell so good.

>> You just put on a threehour performance and I just sat there screaming and cheering. I was like, I need to bring

cheering. I was like, I need to bring you something. You were amazing tonight.

you something. You were amazing tonight.

I'm going to put these in your room in her room.

>> But can May I have this? Like I'll just keep it here.

>> Yeah, you'll put it there.

>> Um Okay. Of course. Of course. I

>> I had so much fun. I

>> showed up as a fan. I was with all the people. I was looking around. I was I I

people. I was looking around. I was I I was like nervous for you because now I'm like so invested in your journey. I'm

like, "Oh my god, I hope she does perfect." I like And then you got out

perfect." I like And then you got out there and I was like, "Oh, she's a full professional."

professional." >> Did you feel like a like a stage mom?

>> I don't. me being like, "Rosie, hit your queue." And then also you being like

queue." And then also you being like your dance moves and watching you and like she hit it. Yes. Boom. Boom. So

funny.

>> It was so fun seeing you up there. How

did you feel?

>> I felt really good. It's been like 2 months since we like we've been on a break, >> right?

>> So I completely forgot forgot that like version of me like completely.

>> So yesterday was the first show. So

today was a bit better. It was wild to watch Blackpink and then it's so cool that you each have your solo moments and when you went out for your solo moment, I was having another stage mom moment

where I was like, "Oh my god, like toxic toxic till the end." I was like literally getting emo. I like almost started crying. I'm like, "Why am I

started crying. I'm like, "Why am I getting emotional right now?" Blackpink

just announced a new album.

>> Oh yes.

>> Casual. What What can you tell us about it? Well, so it's an album that we've

it? Well, so it's an album that we've all kind of obviously come back from after that like year of exploring and all being our individual selves. Um, and

so I think it was like really interesting to kind of come back and and see what was created after that. And so

I really like all the songs there and I love him. Um, including Jump and which

love him. Um, including Jump and which was is already released and and we have like a fun collaboration that's coming up.

And >> I feel like it >> it's like so I played it for like a bunch of my team and my friends and they all were like like it feels like jump but it's like so different.

>> It just and they just say it's it sounds so different from anything else we've done and I feel the same. And I feel like like a lot of the collaboration is the reason like why that probably sounds

that way. And I feel like um it's it's

that way. And I feel like um it's it's very new. And visually too, I don't

very new. And visually too, I don't think we've actually used as that much like CGI before.

>> Wow.

>> Um and >> I'm so excited.

>> Yeah, it's like a big like funky mixture of like all these things, but for some reason like it works and I'm really excited for the fans to see that. And

yeah.

>> Oh my god, I'm so excited. Now I feel like I've been on this journey with you and again to see Blackpink and then you have your solo moment. Do you think you

would ever tour solo?

>> Oh, that's been a big subject amongst >> obviously like my fans like they they are obvious I mean definitely dying for

me to be on tour and I am too. But um I I've always just thought like I want to be able to create a like a real like solid world to present

>> to everyone. I didn't want to feel rushed because that first solo album like I mentioned to you like the whole thing was just like a learning curve and I needed that time to really learn about

the album and so I feel like to create like a whole world on stage I need more time to build on that um with extra song songs as well cuz right now I only have

like what 12 and I feel like I I don't feel ready to like create a whole you know body of work for everyone yet. Uh,

but I feel like it's slowly gonna kind of come closer once I feel like my second album or like more music comes out. Um, but yeah, I just want everyone

out. Um, but yeah, I just want everyone to be patient and just wanted to um cuz I feel like once I do start, I feel like I'd love it so much that I would want to do it for so long. So, I don't want to

ruin that experience.

>> Do you love being on stage?

>> I think I do. Uh, but I also don't love being on stage when I feel like I'm not fully like it's not fully me.

>> I see.

>> So, I understand that when it is fully me, I love it. Like, I want to repeat it. Even like yesterday when I got when

it. Even like yesterday when I got when it when we came back from the break, I was like, I love this. Like, I can't believe this is coming to an end. This

is so much fun. And I feel like for Blackpink, this is like the most defined like show we've um put together. So that

excites me. And so like even for my solo thing, like I can't wait for the day that like >> I kind of create this world that I'm obsessed with also that I just like want to be on stage all the time because that

that's euphoric for everyone.

>> When you look at your future >> a decade from now, two decades from now, what do you want for yourself in the future?

>> What are your dreams?

>> That's a big question. Um h

I've now noticed that like I feel like when I was younger like it seemed really simple just like one dream and then once I'm there everything will be like I'll

be like so happy. I'll feel like I'm on top of the world all of that. But I've

noticed that there's just so much that goes um to get to anywhere. Um, and I've also noticed that like what I love

changes. Like my interests change and

changes. Like my interests change and what makes me happy is always kind of ever evolving. And so I feel like

ever evolving. And so I feel like it'll be hard to be like I'd like it to be like this. Um, but now after

everything that we've all lived through, I feel like I hope at the end of like 10, you know, in 10 years or 20 years time, I'm just at the place I want to be

and I've found what makes me happy in that moment and that I'm peaceful. Um,

whatever that means. whether that means like I'd like to be I would love to live like Beyonce or or I'd like to like you know become an

expert expert at um embroidery or I don't know whatever it is or I'd like to work at a hotel and like whatever it is I hope I'm like at a place that makes me feel inspired creative and just peaceful

>> amazing >> yeah to wrap us up this incredible trip I know I know I'm like sad to say that um but we'll keep drinking after this

Um, I think throughout this entire trip, I've felt so lucky to get to know you. I

feel so inspired by you as a woman and an entertainer and as a person. But, um,

I'm curious. I know you don't do a lot of interviews. So, one, how are you

of interviews. So, one, how are you feeling about this whole experience with me and this conversation? Because you've

opened up a lot. Like, how are you feeling as I'm going to leave soon? I'm

first of all very sad. I'm almost like, is there a season two of this of our K drama that we've created?

>> We'll do we'll do a part two at some point.

>> Yeah, I'd love that. Um, but I feel like um, so after like the interviews we did in Korea, there were like these moments where I even went to my team and I was like, "Do you think everything I said

was I had like in the moment I felt so comfortable and I feel like you helped me really like open up and feel like human and like safe enough to share um,

my thoughts. But even still, I noticed

my thoughts. But even still, I noticed that like once I went home, I was already I was already asking my team like, "Do you think anything like I said will kind of turn back on me again? Do

you think any of like the people online will use these like information as bait to like, you know, twist stories or whatnot?" And I was already back in

whatnot?" And I was already back in fear. And that's when I noticed like I

fear. And that's when I noticed like I remember the conversations we had >> and and also my team listening to these conversations were like, "No, remember like the conversations that you have

with her, I think it should be okay and it's um it's a good thing what you're doing. And so like this whole experience

doing. And so like this whole experience I've had with you is like another learning experience and and yes, we'll go off and this will be online and we'll see what people say about it. But I I I

think it's just a it's like, you know, even still, I feel like I haven't opened up much and I'm hoping that the next time we meet, I'll be even more comfortable. I'll feel even more safe

comfortable. I'll feel even more safe out in the open. And yeah, so I feel like it's just like a lot of emotions have been coming through doing this with you and it was so much fun and

>> it was an honor.

>> You've given me so much confidence.

>> You have given me confidence again. I

feel like we have so much in common and maybe we came together being like I wonder if what what will we bond over and what and I feel like I'm leaving being like wow I feel like I have so much to think about also even just

moving forward for me as an interviewer.

You've really been so it's been an enlightening couple days. So, I

appreciate your time cuz I know how busy you are. I know you just got off stage

you are. I know you just got off stage after a three-hour show. You've been at that stadium all day. Like, thank you for your time and >> this is a treat to speak with you.

>> Thank you. And I hope everyone watching this, you shouldn't have anxiety because you have said nothing other than your own feelings and your thoughts about your own life. And so anyone watching,

maybe just keep in mind that this is Rosy's life. And so to comment

Rosy's life. And so to comment negatively or whatever it be, like maybe think before you write anything negative because I think you've really opened up in a beautiful way. And the way to

continue to get more of you and you to share is for people to be receptive of your vulnerability. So, thank you.

your vulnerability. So, thank you.

>> I hope the next time we can just have fun talking about funny things because >> you know the fact that we have to like go back down to like it's so it sounds very depressing like

>> are we really crying part two is us >> just having fun saying whatever the [ __ ] we want.

>> I'm actually still not over me being like so Rosie are you seeing anyone? You

went like this.

>> You flung off your chair. Your best

friend's in the room being like Rosie get back out of the chair.

>> I know. She was like, "Kind of."

>> But you know what? I think that's what's so fun is >> I've only interviewed a couple people in my career multiple times and I know you're going to be one of them.

>> Oh, really?

>> I really do. Cuz I feel like I feel such I feel like we're right, >> if anything, at the beginning of this chapter for you. Like this isn't the middle or the end. Like I really feel like this is such a beginning of you and

what we're going to continue to learn about you and you're going to grow. And

so I'm just honored that I got to meet you and I will be here whenever that next album comes out, girl. And we will sit down and we will talk about the dissect.

>> We will dissect >> every Oh my god. Wait, I already have like what, five songs that like my friends when they listen, they go like Rosie and I'm like about it later.

>> Stop. Stop. You can't tease me that.

Okay, you'll tell me off camera.

>> Be perfect for Call Daddy.

>> Next episode, part two.

>> Rosie, >> I'm so excited.

>> Cheers.

>> Cheers to that. Thank you for coming on Color Daddy. Yay.

Color Daddy. Yay.

>> It was an honor.

>> Thank you.