Alysa Liu: The 60 Minutes Interview

Very few people retire at the age of 16.

Then again, few people have careers with as many twists as American figure skater Alysa Leu. After becoming the youngest

Alysa Leu. After becoming the youngest US women's champion in history at age 13, the Phenom shocked the skating world when she abruptly quit a few years

later. Now 20 years old, Alyssa is back

later. Now 20 years old, Alyssa is back and a favorite to win gold at the Winter Olympics next month. Her return to the sport was almost as surprising as her

departure from it. No one knew what to expect when she started training again, but somehow on a Friday night this past March in Boston, Alyssa Leu was leading

at the World Championships with one performance to go.

She was the final skater of the night. A

world title hung in the balance.

Within seconds, it was clear she was up to the moment as Donna Summer's disco beat pulsated.

Alyssa Leu blissfully dashed around the ice, weaving intricate jump combinations with artistic flare. The soldout crowd

in Boston roared its approval.

>> In my spin, right before I hit my ending pose, I saw everybody already standing up. Oh my god. I was like, this is wild.

up. Oh my god. I was like, this is wild.

That was the most hype I've ever felt in my entire life. It's a crazy sensation.

Alyssa Leu had seized the night. She was

the world champion.

>> YOU DID IT. HER COACHES, Philip Degomo and Masimo Scoly, were overjoyed.

>> Wow.

>> Did you guys see this coming?

>> No.

>> No.

>> No.

>> A year after she stepped back on the ice, she was at the top.

>> It's unheard >> in our sport. It is.

>> It is >> unheard of in women's figure skating because Leu has come back now as a grown woman.

>> You know what? That wasn't bad for how I feel.

>> A little edgier, bleached hair, and more piercings, but also a full 7 in taller than when she first broke through [Applause]

by winning the 2019 US Championship at 13. She was still a child.

13. She was still a child.

The 4'7 Dynamo needed a lift to ascend to the top of the podium.

Leu won another national title at age 14 and was hailed as the great American hope in figure skating. And I skated every day when I was like 13, 14. So it

was a very abnormal childhood.

>> She says coaches told her when to practice, what to wear, which music to skate to, even how much to eat.

>> Was it a job?

>> Yes. Yeah. Especially as a kid, you know, you don't really know what you want. Skinning feels more like a

want. Skinning feels more like a responsibility or a burden even >> like this is what I have to do.

>> Yeah.

>> It was Alyssa's father who was the engine of ambition.

>> He was really in your business when you were younger.

>> Oh yeah. I mean it was basically his business. It wasn't even really mine.

business. It wasn't even really mine.

>> Arthur Leu had no skating background.

>> In his native China, he had organized demonstrations during the time of the Tianaman Square protests and was forced to flee. He came to America with

to flee. He came to America with nothing.

Arthur built a law practice and a family in the Bay Area. A single dad, he had five kids with the help of surrogates.

Alyssa was his oldest child, and her figure skating career became his second full-time job.

>> I took her everywhere. I took her to Japan to learn from the top coaches there. I took her to Canada. How much do

there. I took her to Canada. How much do you think you spent to help her become the figure skater that she is?

>> I would say half a million to a million dollars.

>> Arthur, >> I I spared I spared no money, no time.

Just >> why?

>> I I just saw the talent.

>> With so much at stake, Arthur began cycling and recycling through coaches.

>> How many times did he fire you? Uh um me once, >> I think. Three times.

>> Three times.

>> Once in person, two via text, I think.

Yeah. Your services are no longer needed.

>> Some coaches tried to keep Arthur away from the rink, but one afternoon, he just couldn't help himself.

>> Just one time, I sneaked into the ice rink.

>> Why?

>> Big jacket, >> sunglasses, head covered. Entered the

ice rink from the back, not from the front. So I was sitting there up in the

front. So I was sitting there up in the bleachers watching and I didn't like what I saw. Standing around for 20 minutes, skated around the rank a few

times. That's where my money was going.

times. That's where my money was going.

>> And how did that go down?

>> We stopped uh working with that coach.

>> These stories, >> yes, >> make it sound like you were like this tiger dad who was all over her career and pushing her. Is that fair?

Not quite.

>> Not quite. I was a lazy affair. Yes.

>> A lazy affair does Dad doesn't bring a radar gun to the skating rink.

>> Well, I mean, you know, the radar gun is to measure her speed.

>> Alyssa says everything changed when the pandemic hit in 2020. Her rink in Oakland closed, allowing her to catch her breath.

>> I was like, "Wow, this is what a break feels like." And then I was like, I

feels like." And then I was like, I really like not skating.

>> The pandemic hits, most people are like, "Oh, this is such a bummer." Honestly, I was hoping like the rinks wouldn't open.

>> When rinks did open, Alyssa reluctantly returned to the ice. She made the 2022 US Olympic team, finishing sixth in Beijing. But she'd had it with figure

Beijing. But she'd had it with figure skating.

>> And then I was like, "Yeah, I'm I'm calling quits right now." She did it on Instagram, catching the sport by surprise.

>> So tell me about the decision to retire.

>> It was a crucial time in my life. I was

16 and college was coming up. Like I

wanted to do so much. I went to Nepal and I tked to Everest Space Camp. Me and

my friends would do tons of road trips.

Yeah. I mean, I was really just living it up. I would say it was my best life.

it up. I would say it was my best life.

>> At any point are you like, gosh, I kind of miss skating?

>> No, >> not at all. You're not thinking about it at all? Oh, not a thought. I deleted my

at all? Oh, not a thought. I deleted my Instagram so I wouldn't see any skating.

No one ever brought it up so I never even had the chance to think about it.

>> But nearly 2 years into her self-imposed exile, she secretly laced up her skates.

>> And did you tell your family you were putting your skates back on?

>> I mean, I wasn't planning to return to competition at this point. I just wanted quick hits of dopamine, basically.

>> Soon she wanted more. She pestered one of her many former coaches, Philip Delemo.

>> And so I call up Philip and I tell him like "Hey I think I want to go back to skating."

>> And I said, "Oh, that's fun."

>> Oh, she >> And I thought I thought like, "Oh, you want to do collegiate competitions?" And

she goes, "No, I want to I want to compete again."

compete again." And I said, "Let me call you back."

I go and I grab a bottle of red wine and I open that bottle and I pour myself a really big glass.

>> And are you thinking this is a terrible idea?

>> This is a terrible idea. Terrible idea.

Two and a half hours later of conversation with me trying to talk her out of it and everything I said like oh I said you're you know other people have tried this and they're it was hard

because they're older. She goes I'm only 18.

Alyssa made it clear on the FaceTime call if she came back, she would be in charge going forward.

>> I get to pick my own program music. I

get to help with the creative process of the program. If I feel like I'm skating

the program. If I feel like I'm skating too much, I'll back down. If I feel like I'm not skating enough, I'll ramp it up.

No one's going to starve me. Tell me

what I can and can't eat.

>> I love the arm model.

>> Philip Degomo agreed with Alyssa's conditions. It's really the stretch

conditions. It's really the stretch >> and brought back choreographer Masimo Scoly >> more. It's like bam.

>> more. It's like bam.

>> I got my team. I told you his figure skating and then I told my dad.

>> And how did dad react when you told him that?

>> I mean, he was really happy. He's a

great father, you know. I just didn't want him to be as invested in it as he was before. When she said she didn't

was before. When she said she didn't want you on the team anymore, were you hurt?

>> A little bit. A little bit. It's like I I brought you up to US two US national titles.

>> Do you think Alyssa's a little bit of a rebel?

>> Yes.

>> Like her father?

>> I think so. I really think so. She is a very free spirit >> like me in many ways.

>> God has a sense of humor, right?

>> Yes, absolutely.

>> In June 2024, Alyssa started training again full-time at her home rink, the Oakland Ice Center. The idea was to

take it slowly to see where her comeback might lead, if anywhere. At first, she was out of shape.

>> When you got back on the ice, how long did you think it would take you to be a contender for a world championship?

>> Oh, never. I never said that. No. Got a

high five.

>> But her coaches saw the old magic reappear.

>> Oh, beautiful. That was really pretty. I

don't even know what to say.

>> The jumps came back >> like that.

>> How amazing is that?

>> Oh, >> and >> incredible.

>> And there was something different about the way she moved her body that was no longer a child.

>> Yeah.

>> I kind of don't like that the leg and arm both move together. With her in charge, is she a better skater?

>> 100%.

>> What do you see?

>> For many years, she was dropped off at the rink. She was told what to do. Now

the rink. She was told what to do. Now

she comes in and it is all collaborative.

>> Mhm.

>> I could like hold.

>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I like that.

>> Her attachment to her coaches can be literal. This harness and what looks

literal. This harness and what looks like a fishing pole help reel her in before she falls.

But eventually they have to let her go.

>> No.

No.

This is what it takes to become a champion.

Constant pounding.

>> I'm so tired in pursuit of perfection.

>> One more.

>> I saw that when you were training and they're like, "Okay, that's good." And

you're like, "One more. One more."

>> You don't need somebody pushing you.

>> You know, I have my own like determination. My determination's like

determination. My determination's like up there.

>> You're pretty scrappy.

>> I love struggling actually. You do.

>> It makes me feel alive.

Skating isn't Alyssa Leu's entire life anymore.

She's traded her ice princess tiara for a little freedom.

>> When you like pulled your skirt out like that, that was cute.

>> And room for expression.

>> Oh yeah, this is it.

>> Wait. Okay.

>> What's unique about Alyssa skating is her blend of jumping ability >> and alluring movement.

>> Do you view yourself as an athlete or an artist?

>> An artist, actually. But I I love being an athlete, too. I think it's really cool. Um, I view competitions more as

cool. Um, I view competitions more as like a a stage for performing.

>> There will be no bigger stage than next month's Winter Olympics in Italy, where Alyssa will be a gold medal favorite. No

American woman has won an Olympic figure skating singles title in 24 years.

>> Do you feel any kind of pressure that now I've got to do the Olympics and I need to win gold? No, actually I'm really excited because my goal honestly is just to hype people up, give them an

experience whether it's negative or positive. As long as people are feeling

positive. As long as people are feeling some strong emotions and anticipation, I'm fine with that.

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