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My thing is that women's jobs are easier now than they have ever been. In the

household as a mother, as a caretaker, we have washing machines. We don't have to go to the quarry and rub our clothes on rocks anymore. So that's why women got bored and wanted to move into the

workforce. So that's a technological

workforce. So that's a technological issue. And then second of all,

issue. And then second of all, >> okay, >> um just like men have spreadsheets that they work on instead.

>> Yeah, sure. Or or life's easier for everyone. Exactly. Isn't it great?

everyone. Exactly. Isn't it great?

Technology and capitalism.

>> Here, put the mic down. Andrew is going to take a smoke. So, if you want to take this seat uh and finish your thought, >> okay, with Andrew.

>> And then my second thing is I only understand Andrew's point in the fact that if you're going to marry someone, you should trust them. And

>> uh prenup, yeah, again, probably more for if you have money, you know, or and if you're going to come into money, good for you. then get a you can I think you

for you. then get a you can I think you could still get a prenup eventually even after you get married.

>> You can.

>> Okay, cool. So, that's good. And then um >> yeah, I just that's like all I'm going to say. That's all I [laughter] wanted

to say. That's all I [laughter] wanted to say.

>> Uh you guys seems like you wanted to weigh in here a bit.

>> Even I'm sorry. Even if you're not legally married with a certificate, by law you are legally married after a certain amount of time.

>> Seven years.

>> Yeah. I think this I don't know. It I

think it varies. Wait, are you responding to her or is this your original thing?

>> This is just something that I wanted to weigh in on.

>> Okay. So, what you're talking about civil what is it?

>> No. Um, by law, >> yeah, I don't know the exact terminology, but I know by law it varies per state that you are legally married to someone after spending a certain amount of time with them, especially

living in a household with them.

>> That that's not in every state. That's

uh I think it's common law marriage, I believe, is the term. In some states, yes, that's that's the case. If you've

been holding yourself out to be as if you were married, you're living together, you're cohabitating, then the state could deem you uh you you weren't legally officially married, but you were

acting in in such a way that was commensurate to as if you were be married. So, they're going to consider

married. So, they're going to consider you they're going to consider you you legally married common law marriage.

>> Also, >> did you have did you have more on that though?

>> No, but thank you.

>> Okay, go ahead.

>> I wanted to respond to you and saying like, "Oh, trust them." and you said, "Oh, trust them." So, like, how many people that are have that share blood with us that we're supposed to trust,

maybe our mother or father or you know, even someone that we trusted, a partner that we trusted for many years, we feel so secure in that scenario. How many

times does that trust fleet away because of some sort of outside factor? So,

[ __ ] much. So even though you're smart and you had the best intuition and you had all you tried to do everything by your book, it still happens. So

trust, you know, [ __ ] changes. [ __ ] changes in time. People change, people's motives change, people's desires change.

So trust is [ __ ] >> It only goes so far.

>> I just don't think you should as a man.

>> Trust yourself. Number one,

>> absent Christian, absent Christianity, uh there's actually no reason for get for men to get married. Or perhaps I can reframe it. Uh there's no reason for the

reframe it. Uh there's no reason for the bread winner to get married.

>> There's breadwinners total total uh L to get married.

>> Yeah. And here's my question that I kept trying to ask um >> Andrew.

>> Andrew, he's like, "Oh, what if you got a waitress and a mechanic?" Okay. Well,

um, great jobs there, >> but you don't know what those people's lives are, what those people's assets are, what money they're going to be getting from family or god, father,

mother in the future.

>> So, he's talking about his own daughter.

So, okay, let's say your daughter has a few million coming to her in the future.

And this man is, you trust him. He's

just a [ __ ] man, though. So would it change if his daughter had let's say 10 million coming to her?

>> Well, I think two >> he's speaking he's saying oh like cuz she just it's to protect the man. He's

doing it to protect the man. What about

your daughter that might have a lot of money in her name >> that he might want to leave her one day.

>> Exactly. Does she want that money going to him?

>> In a prenup when you know the paperwork's in action and you're about to get a trust sent to you. you're going

to go to a lawyer and get that all taken care of. So, yeah, but you don't need to

care of. So, yeah, but you don't need to do it at the beginning of the marriage.

You can do it when the money comes, >> whatever. It's a prenup, but it's when

>> whatever. It's a prenup, but it's when it comes and we're all the the whole argument here is that we're pro prenup and he's saying, >> well, I don't necessarily think that

that's his position. You haven't stated your position exactly on whether you're pro or >> so >> pro for the man at least.

>> Here's why. Here's why I consider this a fem position.

Everything here that she's talking about is materialistbased.

She's talking from specifically materialist lens, >> logic based lens. But okay,

materialistbased lens. Let me finish the argument.

>> I'll explain and express how that's the case.

>> So from my view, right, marriage is a religious institution and it's designed specifically to be a religious institution. If you want to see the

institution. If you want to see the lowest divorce rates, look at the people who are the most religious. Those that's

when you'll find the least divorce is there.

>> Is that statistically true?

>> Not only statistically true, very statistically true.

>> John Gman, you know, >> the more often the the more rigorous they practice, the least likely they are to divorce.

>> Okay.

>> From your view, the materialist view, >> logical view, >> well, it's not Hang on.

>> If it's the logic, if it's the logical view, then I need this one question answered. Sure.

answered. Sure.

>> If we're only protecting our stuff, our things, stuff we want, and protecting from the future, >> you got to stop.

>> Yeah.

>> It's not stuff. It's not material.

>> Hold on. You got to You've been interrupting a [ __ ] ton.

Your contributions with your little quips and your little add-ins are not really, [sighs] they're not adding substance to the conversation and it's interrupting

>> what it's not. But just even if you disagree, let him finish. Just let him finish. You don't need to add in.

finish. You don't need to add in.

>> Go ahead. Continue.

>> And then I'll gauge I'll gauge with your view. I promise.

view. I promise.

>> If that's the case and it's just material and you say it's logical, it's it's logical for you to want to keep material separation in case bad things happen. What the [ __ ] is the point of

happen. What the [ __ ] is the point of getting married at all? If you're going to sign a contract with the state, if you're preventing the state from coming in and dividing assets by having other

contracts, why not just use the secular method and just have all of those things absent the state contract? I actually

that would be the most logical thing. So

unless you can explain to me what it is you're going to get out of a marriage that two people can't just agree to, right, absent the religious qualia, then I want to hear it. What?

>> Yeah. Um, so you're arguing then that there's that you're you're you're arguing against reality. So you're

denying reality. And the reality that we live in is that marriage is not just a religious institution now. It is also a financial agreement and a long-term life contract.

>> Then why do it, >> right?

Asking me why I would do it. I'm asking

you what would be the point >> if it's the case that you see marriage as being a long- form financial partnership with another person. Yes.

>> Right. That you want to protect yourself from the state dividing your assets with that person potentially leaving you with nothing. No.

nothing. No.

>> Why get married at all? You can still do you can live in the same house with them. You can raise the kids the same

them. You can raise the kids the same exact way.

>> You need a prenup. It'd be

>> Why can't Why Why do you need to have a prenup if you just don't get married?

>> Prenup, you could write down, you know, a cheating clause, which I would have, right? I want a prenup to make my

right? I want a prenup to make my marriage stronger in the future.

>> Why are you getting married, though?

>> So, you cheat, I cheat. That is going to be bad for the both of us, right?

>> Why are you getting married in the first place?

>> Because you want somebody to spend your life with.

>> You can do that without the marriage.

You cannot because that is not the Is it logically possible? Is it

logically? Yeah. Then what are you talking about? What's a logical answer?

talking about? What's a logical answer?

>> Why did you get married then?

>> Huh? Well, I'm religious. I just told you it's a religious institution.

>> But it's also a financial in commitment, right?

>> Yeah. But if you're if you're not looking at it.

>> So why didn't you just get married in the church?

>> Because I did. I did. I did get married in the church. Part of getting married in the church is that you get legally married. Yes. So why did you get a

married. Yes. So why did you get a marriage license for me? Why did you got legally married for the church?

>> Chill. I'll I'll explain, but I just want to let you know you still haven't answered my qu. But I'll I'll explain, but I want the promise you answer mine afterwards. A lot of churches cannot

afterwards. A lot of churches cannot actually marry you legally without utilizing the state. Okay? And also, I was not I was not when I got married,

which was so many years ago, as rigorous as I am now, I didn't even understand half of these things. That's first.

>> Okay. The second thing is if I was only looking from the materialist view though it's a financial it's financial it's financial okayistic view >> sure the realistic view realistically

explain to me what you're going to get out of the marriage that you're not going to get not marriage what >> okay if I am not married and I'm living

with a person long term and we have shared financial assets right and one of us decides to hurt the other betray the other or anything and now we want to

split, right? As a result of that, now

split, right? As a result of that, now we both have to go to court. Now I have to hire a lawyer. Now I have to create a mess out of my life just to leave that relationship. If we have kids, it's

relationship. If we have kids, it's extremely complicated as well.

>> Wait, if if let me finish my answer. If

you do have a legal contract in place that >> talks about if those things were to happen and God hoping that it doesn't, >> right? Then we have a I have a plan of

>> right? Then we have a I have a plan of action. This is what happens, right? And

action. This is what happens, right? And

I have >> Why is marriage necessary to any of that?

>> Can I give you an examp?

>> Why is mar >> Why is marriage necessary for you to have a contract with somebody that they can't take your stuff? Why can't you have a contract with a person on what you're going to do absent marriage?

>> So you want people to >> I'm not it's not what I want. I'm asking

you a question. Why? Because again

marriage is a legal contract and it is a it is a institution that basically is ingrained in our society and children.

That's not giving me the reason why you need to get married come from marriage married households do better period.

>> Is that because of the marriage or is that because it's a mom and dad in the same household?

>> Do you think a mom and dad in >> Don't ask me a question. Answer my

question.

>> Wait. Do you think mom >> answer the question first?

>> You have to let me answer how I want.

You don't have to answer. asking me a question is not answering it.

>> You don't get to tell me how I answer them.

>> Okay. So, we're just going to I'm just going to answer all your questions with questions.

>> I think it's fair. I think it's fair for you to answer the question, please, and then answer it.

>> So, you're trying to compare you're trying to say that uh kids that are raised in a household where the parents are legally married, >> Yeah.

>> do the same or have the same advantage as kids that are raised in a household where the parents are together but not legally married.

>> Can you tell me what the difference would be? The the difference is

would be? The the difference is statistically speaking the ones that are married.

>> Why what would that have to do with a certificate with the state?

>> You tell me the correlation.

>> I'm asking you.

>> I'm just telling you the facts.

>> Yeah. But why though? Why? Why couldn't

you have the from a secular view? Why

couldn't you have the exact Here's why.

I'll tell you why.

>> You tell me why.

>> So, the reason that you generally see inside of married households, the outcomes being better for the kids because it's tied to religion.

>> Almost every single time, the outcomes are way better for the kids because it's tied to religion. If you're talking about a purely secular household >> like mom, mother and father or boyfriend, girlfriend for 20 years, why

do the kids from that union >> do a lot less better than the people that are married >> because if they want if they're religious, they don't live like that.

They get married. If they're not religious, they live like that, right?

And they don't institute the religion.

>> Most are are religious. And that's

>> no most marriages are not, which is why so many of them fail.

at high high high rates. And so the thing is is like this doesn't even answer my question.

>> Trying to prevent marriages.

>> Yeah. But I need I still need to know why it would be that you need to get married at all under your worldview here. If the world view is

here. If the world view is >> Okay.

>> Can you stop?

>> No, no, I wasn't. I just actually was thinking of a point to make, but >> Yeah. But

>> Yeah. But >> I didn't do that.

>> If the Yeah. If the worldview here is just >> that you want to have a contract with somebody and and live with them and that's going to create better outcomes for the kid. [laughter] Mhm. Somehow it

does.

>> You don't actually You're not telling me why it would be that you would need to get married through the state at all.

>> Well, we're both trying to write get more people married and to stay together. But what would be the point?

together. But what would be the point?

>> Your argument is that they need to be religious and my argument is they should sign a freaking paper and talk about the hard stuff together. No, my argument which is easier to my argument is that

my argument here is that under your worldview there would be no reason to actually get married through the state and you have not provided me a single one.

>> I have provided so many.

>> Give me one >> that you can't have without the without the state involved. Give me one one thing that you're getting from the state you can't just do. If you go to a hospital, right, and your partner in

life gets sick or hurt, you have nothing to prove that you are their partner. So,

they can just do an advanced medical directive.

>> Wait, you you asked for an advanced medical directive. I just gave you one,

medical directive. I just gave you one, right?

>> That's advanced medical directive. You

don't need marriage for that.

>> Here, here's what I have to do just because we have a lot of people asked for an example. I gave it to you. I want

to make sure that we can get other people Hold on. I want to make sure we can get other people pulled in. Here's

what I'll do. I'll give you each one minute.

>> Okay.

>> To make finalize your point on this and then I do have to move on.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah.

>> And then time permitting if we want to later. I just want to make sure.

later. I just want to make sure.

>> So I'll I'll finalize it super quick.

Right. This is a very common feminist trope. It's a very commonist fem trope.

trope. It's a very commonist fem trope.

The idea is actually it's going to elevate women. That's the whole point.

elevate women. That's the whole point.

They're trying to secure the fact that there's going to be failure.

[clears throat] They can take the man for everything. That's what the whole

for everything. That's what the whole point is. And by the way, let me point

point is. And by the way, let me point this out very quickly. Uh the she never made a single argument ever for what you would be getting in this relationship,

married versus unmarried. She just keeps saying that they should get married for reasons that she can't even explain. She

says advanced medical directives. You

can have that without marriage. Like you

don't need marriage for any of these things. So if you're not religious, what

things. So if you're not religious, what is even the point?

>> What are you Whoa. What are you doing?

>> I just can I can Yeah, sure. But hang on.

>> Can I give a reason? and I've asked like three times.

>> We'll let her close up though real quick. We'll let her close close up. Can

quick. We'll let her close close up. Can

you stop interrupting please?

>> Okay. Thought it was polite. Sorry.

>> Huh?

>> Thought it was polite. Sorry.

>> Just maybe a hand raise might might be better. Sure.

better. Sure.

>> Go ahead.

>> Me on the last.

>> Are you done?

>> I'm done. I'm done.

>> Okay. So again, I think that the benefit of marriage is somebody to witness your life with, to do life with, to make life easier with, and love is the number one

component that should bring in people together. But I live in reality, right?

together. But I live in reality, right?

And reality means that I want to be protected. I want my partner to be

protected. I want my partner to be protected. I want us to go into a

protected. I want us to go into a marriage for the right reasons. And I

want to set a good example for my kids and make sure that they are taken care of. God forbid something happens. That's

of. God forbid something happens. That's

it.

>> Okay.

>> Super feminist.

>> Okay. You're Wait, actually, really quick. I have a chat coming in.

quick. I have a chat coming in.

>> Hide the super.

>> Charles Sterling donated $200.

>> Thank you, Charles.

>> Good to see you again, Mr. Wilson.

Prenup is to only protect your wealth, not to protect community property. Yeah.

>> Share two common laws after you've been living together for 7 years.

>> I think Thank you, Charles.

>> I think some states it it could be lower than that or they lowered it, but I'm not sure.

>> It can vary.

>> Yeah, it varies.

>> Uh, okay. you want to go.

>> I was just simply going to say cuz he keeps asking why I get married. Why get

married? So simply just to uplevel your commitment. It's a spiritual thing as

commitment. It's a spiritual thing as well.

>> I agree. I in fact I would say it's only a spiritual thing. So the thing is is like if you're going to uple if you're going to uplevel your commitment, why do you want a prenup again?

>> Because if I'm going to be making that commitment, I want a prenup for protection. and what that prenup

protection. and what that prenup resembles. It's a reflection on those

resembles. It's a reflection on those difficult conversations that you can have and that relationship that you have with your partner and yourself.

>> Then why are you getting why get married at all? Why?

at all? Why?

>> Because I love someone.

>> Yeah. But you what what's preventing you from loving them?

>> Because I want to uplevel that commitment. I want to solidify that

commitment. I want to solidify that commitment [clears throat] in a way that involves more than just me and them.

>> So you want the state to now get involved?

>> Sure. It is involved whether you like it or not.

>> Wait, do you think do you think so people do make that commitment, they go to the state, they get the marriage license. Do you think that this

license. Do you think that this precludes people from splitting up?

>> Because what I see >> it doesn't have to do with splitting up.

It's >> it seems to me like it's protection for you.

>> It's with the intention that you're not splitting up.

>> Actually, I think so. for example, I think it creates say in a in a obviously people can have two incomes in a relationship and perhaps in a scenario you guys both have perfectly equal

equivalent income and resources and finances but typically there you're going to see one person having more resources, more money, higher income than the other. It seems like it

actually creates an incentive for the person who uh who makes less money. It

actually starts giving them a financial incentive to leave the relationship because there's a financial incentive when you get married.

>> But you're getting a prenup.

>> Yeah. Right. But

>> you're getting the prenup.

>> So, do we agree though that prenups aren't going to cover kids, right?

>> Why?

>> Well, prenups >> because the the state the state will come in on a prenup for kids in order to divide up kids.

>> Well, I'm talking to have that included as well. My understanding, and Brian,

as well. My understanding, and Brian, pull this up, but a prenup does not uh does not facilitate custodial rights even at divorce. I don't believe that that's the case.

>> Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I think

you can maybe arrange something. You can

have something arranged there. But

correct.

>> Uh my understanding with prenups, it can it can address that which the assets prior to marriage, but I don't think prenups can address the community property. Those are posts or or uh it

property. Those are posts or or uh it can't address that which was acred during the course of the marriage. I

think I could be I could be a bit wrong.

I do want to move the topic on a little bit. Time permitting. Of course, we can

bit. Time permitting. Of course, we can return to it. Uh, I think this all kind of kicked off when we were talking about raw meat over here. [laughter]

>> Um, >> I just have one cool question.

>> Okay. What's up?

>> Um, the as somebody that kind of has your position on this on prenups. The

only argument that I've heard, um, the strongest one is like, okay, well, why do you get car insurance and then you still drive? Why do you get health

still drive? Why do you get health insurance and you still go outside?

>> My position is not don't get a prenup, >> right?

>> The position Yeah. The the position the position is simply >> what were we talking about?

>> What in the [ __ ] is the point of the marriage?

>> If the idea here is we need prenups to protect assets, that's what our primary goal is. What the [ __ ] Do you even want

goal is. What the [ __ ] Do you even want to get married for >> custody? No, but I'm saying like um the

>> custody? No, but I'm saying like um the >> you'll still get custody like >> No, I'm talking about second marriage when you have a second marriage with a new person and they are actively

fighting to get custody for their children is a reason and it happens way more often than you think because some states some states some chanc

>> Yeah. require

>> Yeah. require if you're going to have custody with a new person in the home living with the child and you want to show stability and you want to prove to the court that you

are a stable parent, you have to legally get married to benefit that because I agree with you and I agree with you because I was with you even as a religious person because what is the

point? However, when you're in put in

point? However, when you're in put in positions with an outside parent with children, it gets convoluted and the court wants the wants

>> I'm sorry, I have to move this on off of the prenups.