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Bill Gates on India, Billion-Dollar Business Opportunities, PM Modi & Children | FO335 Raj Shamani

By Raj Shamani

Summary

## Key takeaways - **India's innovation ecosystem has exploded**: Bill Gates observes that India's innovation ecosystem has exploded, moving beyond just health challenges to encompass areas like better seeds, diagnostics, and AI applications for health and education. [04:21] - **Tech founders are less dynastic with wealth**: Bill Gates notes that founders from the technology sector tend to be less dynastic, often giving away a significant portion of their capital rather than solely their earnings. [09:25], [09:47] - **AI is today's equivalent of early computing**: If starting a company today, Bill Gates would focus on areas like AI, which he likens to the early days of computing, offering unlimited possibilities and the potential to significantly improve the world. [14:14], [14:20] - **Misconception: powerful people have hidden agendas**: Bill Gates believes a common misunderstanding is that powerful or wealthy individuals have hidden agendas and different values, when in reality, their motivations might be closer to what people expect. [16:49], [17:05] - **Behavior change is hard, but crucial**: While scientific solutions are promising, Bill Gates highlights that achieving behavior change, such as addressing obesity, remains a significant challenge that money alone cannot fix. [22:19], [22:55] - **Be a student and learn constantly**: Bill Gates advises adopting the behavior of being a perpetual student, continuously learning and questioning one's understanding, which he credits as a significant factor in his success. [23:08], [23:13]

Topics Covered

  • India's innovation ecosystem is a global talent capital.
  • Why Bill Gates won't leave his kids a dynasty.
  • What's the biggest misunderstanding about powerful, rich people?
  • Lifelong learning is Bill Gates' secret to success.
  • Being a 'maniac' in your 20s drives success.

Full Transcript

what's the biggest misunderstanding

about you whenever you hear about

somebody who's got you know ridiculous

amounts of money their values are

different than your values you should be

concerned about their agenda what's your

biggest Fe I'll be sad as my brain gets

less capable that disappoints me tell me

one Behavior we all should adopt reading

a lot being a student that's a big part

of My Success richest and most powerful

men in the world Bill Gates has

Unleashed a technological Revolution

that has changed our lives Bill Gates of

25 and Bill Gates of 17 any change that

you feel personally in my 20s being a

maniac was the right thing my

competitors would say oh no you work too

hard and I'd say yes I do if you're in a

race your 20s when you have no wife and

no children that's the time to do

it if you get an opportunity to invite

three Indians for dinner who would that

be there was a mathematician ramanujan I

would have loved to have met him why do

you think India is becoming a Global

Talent capital for the world would hire

people from India and bring them to the

United States you know both the United

States and India were kind of mad at us

cuz we were taking you know the smart

people and moving them in India lot of

kids also fight with their parents on

inheritance have your kids ever spoken

to

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you before we start today's episode all

I want to say is thank you to each and

every one of you I'm really grateful

that we were able to sit down with one

of the most influential men in the world

the Bill

Gates I have being this young boy who

always used to hear stories about this

man about the kind of money he has made

the kind of lives he's impacting the

kind of things he's building through

Microsoft from there to be sitting in

front of him

it was surreal when I started the

conversation you could see it on my face

that I was really nervous really scared

I didn't know what to talk about but as

we went in the conversation the

podcaster in me took over and we spoke

about his fears his Mis understandings

the mission and what is he doing today

today I want you to see this episode

from a lens of a 20-year-old sitting

with Bill Gates and figuring out what

goes on in his brain this episode is

truly special because I could have never

thought that Bill Gates will be on our

podcast this soon in our journey I

always had a belief that we will be able

to sit down with the smartest people

around the world but it happen this

soon I can't believe this right now I

just want you to enjoy this episode the

way I did I want you to sink in that

this is happening because it's not

singing in with me and I just want to

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now welcome on figuring out sir I'll

tell you a little story so during the

pandemic me and my sister we were

watching the Netflix documentry inside

Bill's brain and halfway through it I

told my sister that hey you know what

like one day I'll sit with Bill Gates

and I'll directly speak to him and get

inside his brain and just randomly and

she was laughing so this one's for

you you did it so it's it's an

opportunity I don't know how it just

came out of my mouth and it's happening

today so thank you so much for doing

this well you've come to India quite

often tell me something that You' have

observed about India which a lot of

people don't know about well people

probably uh you know because they're

here all the time you know they probably

don't recognize how much things have

changed you know if you go away and come

back then you see wow you know the level

of Entrepreneurship and the uh you know

the amount of innovation that's actually

taking place here uh it's pretty

fantastic and you know for the

foundation we've been here originally

uh because a lot of the health

challenges were here and we still care a

lot about that but uh now a lot of our

invention is being done here whether

it's uh well vaccines obviously uh we

have some incredible Partnerships but

it's broadening to you know better seeds

better

Diagnostics uh you know the ways that we

can use AI uh for health or education uh

so the

uh Innovation ecosystem has really

exploded and that's going to be great

for India it's going to be great for the

world so when you meet other leaders

around the world or when you meet your

your billionaire friends what's the

first thing you tell them about India is

it the same thing what you just told me

um yeah it's

uh you know we've had such a great

experience uh in our work in India um

you know I encourage people to come and

tap into uh the great things uh going

on is there anything specific you tell

them well you know my connection with

India goes all the way back to the

Microsoft days when you know we at first

would hire people from India and bring

them to the United States and you know

both the United States and India were

kind of mad at us because we were taking

you know the smart people and moving

them and uh you know then they came back

here to India and created the Microsoft

India uh work which has you know been

absolutely fantastic so you know up

until the year 2000 I mainly knew the

tech uh scene so you know a lot of

Bangalore

hydrabad uh seeing the country more

broadly you know that's in my foundation

work so you know bear up um you know

seeing you know where we could partner

and and help with things uh you know I

still want to take more vacation here

I've done it a little bit but uh you

know there's a lot of great places in

India that I haven't been to talking

about Microsoft and taking people from

here to us uh people like

satella Sunder paii there have been

incredible CEOs around the world why do

you think India is becoming a Global

Talent capital for the world do you

think anything special here which is how

day well you know 20% of the world's

people live here in India and India's

had a particular emphasis on you know

engineering software you know and turned

out a lot of taught people and so when

you get people like suar SATA who are

both great at engineering and at

management you know that's a a magic uh

combination and you know so they you

know these companies you know are

looking anywhere in the world to find uh

uh that mix and you know so India's

getting about its fair share of those

top leadership positions and you know it

partly comes from having great

universities uh you know not just the

iits but starting with them um you know

that's using the incredible Talent

that's here

so talking about Indian

Talent you do a lot of philanthropy work

here and you've met a lot of talented

people here lot of rich people here as

well do you and you believe that all the

money that rich people have or like

people who have made wealth for

themselves they should use it for

charity work they should pledge it in

India there's a usually a lot of people

believe that as parents is their duty to

save everything for their kids for The

Inheritance right like the kids will get

everything what do you think is the

right mindset using all the money for

pledging and giving it back to the

society or giving it to the

children well I think you know everybody

gets to decide on that you know in my

case you know my kids got uh a great

upbringing in education but you know

less than 1% of the uh the total wealth

um because I decided it wouldn't be a

favor to them you know it's not a

dynasty you know I'm not asking them to

run Microsoft I want to give them a

chance to have their own earnings and

success you know be significant and not

overshadowed by the incredible luck and

good fortune I had and different

families see that differently I think

the people who've made uh fortunes from

technology are less

dynastic uh and you know so they they'll

even you know take their capital and

give a lot of that away you can have a

view of giving away your capital or just

giving away your earnings um and you of

course I love all

philanthropy uh but the tech sector is

the probably the most aggressive

about um you know giving most of it away

not the other sectors you've not seen

that in any other kind of industry where

people try to give not to the same

degree it tends to be uh giving more you

know of the giving some portion of the

profit as opposed to uh the the actual

base Capital you know in India a lot of

kids also fight their with their parents

on inheritance have your kids ever

spoken to you and be like hey why are

you not giving us everything or anything

has it ever happened um you know you

don't want your kids to ever be confused

used about your support for them and

your love for them and so I do think

explaining early on your

philosophy uh you know that you're going

to treat them all equally uh and that

you're going to give them incredible

opportunities uh but that you know the

highest calling uh for these resources

is uh to go back um to the neediest

through the foundation and you know

they've seen the success of the

foundation I hope they're very proud of

of the foundation and

um uh so you know I I've seen cases

where kids actually tell their parents

to be more philanthropic you know I

think the younger generation sometimes

actually uh is pushing against this idea

of uh uh you know the wealth just being

passed down uh

mostly um

yeah so that's so you know every

family's a a bit different I have last

question on India and then we'll get to

the foundation work and try to

understand you as

well if you get an opportunity to invite

three Indians for dinner Dead or Alive

who would there

be well I get to spend time with you

know some incredible uh people in Indian

you know I get time with the prime

minister and understand his

vision uh and how we fit into that this

you know

2047 uh uh thing that you know

everything is lining up to try to

achieve that you know I get to meet uh

there was a a great scientist Raj Bond

who created the uh Department of

biotechnology uh there was a

mathematician ramanan uh who I I would

have loved to have met him because he

was a uh you know almost mysterious how

he was so genius at what he was able to

do um you know the I got to work with

rotten Tata I'm getting to work with all

of the uh amazing philanthropists and uh

a lot of the innovators here you know I

get to see small companies early on I

just went through uh some of these uh

companies using Ai and health uh some

Pro for profit a few

uh

nonprofit um you know we had a great

25th

uh uh 25 year celebration and this great

sitar artist you know came and uh that

was a pretty special thing uh so it' be

hard for me to pick there's there's uh

so many incredible talents you can't

pick

three I I I think I defend uh some

people by not including them uh fair

fair okay you were talking about small

companies if you were to start something

from zero in India

today where would you put most of your

time and what the first step you'll take

well you'd mostly start a company

because you think you enjoy working on

something and you think you have a

worldclass understanding of you know a

unique contribution you know for me that

was software for this day and age you

know if you think you understand you

know Fusion uh you know that's great if

you're successful which uh that's risky

um you know you could really improve the

world you know AI is sort of the today's

equivalent of what I did when I was

young to see you know wow the

possibilities are

unlimited and so you know I'd probably

be doing uh one of these new companies

if I was starting out today is it do you

still feel there's opportunity a lot of

opportunities in AI to build something

as significant as what you have built or

it's pretty late well you know the big

companies are uh putting a lot of money

into it um and the number of companies

globally is is a you know huge I mean

you know many people didn't even know

these Chinese companies were doing all

this work and yet you know some of the

best results over the last 6 months have

come from three or four of the models

there so it's not when I got going in

Computing it was a very small set of

people and you know people thought we

were crazy that there we set a computer

on every desk and a computer in every

home and that just seemed strange to

people because they couldn't see the

they didn't get softw and they didn't

get the uh exponential Improvement of

the chips was making Computing you know

basically free so it's I'd say it's

tougher

um to get out in

front uh there will be new companies I

mean Nvidia you know is almost as

valuable as uh apple and

Microsoft and

yet uh you know they they you know came

into prominence only really in the last

five or six years although they're about

15 years old so there are opportunities

and there will be some new companies

that use

AI uh to achieve unbelievable success

but it'll be you know two or three out

of

10,000 and you know would I be able to

do that again hard to say you you talked

about like when you started a lot of

people thought that what are you doing

this is some random thing these guys are

trying to do they may be stupid they may

be thinking too big whatever right and

over the time every time you do

something big usually people do not

understand you or anyone like not just

you like whoever wants to start

something new and big in today's world

or as of today what's the biggest

misunderstanding about

you what do you think what do people

misunderstand about Bill Gates well

whenever you hear about somebody who's

got you know some degree of power or you

know ridiculous amounts of

money you know might you might think

they have grand schemes uh you know and

they're uh you know there's almost a

sense that you know their their values

are different than your values and you

know that you should be concerned about

their

agenda um you know hopefully for the

people who actually do know me um you

know and how much I love uh the

foundation work and you know how I work

with my friends or my kids uh you know

it's very different from the people who

just think oh wow you know he's one of

these guys who's you know pushing levers

and uh has has too much money and and

too much uh Authority so that people

misunderstand about you

and talking about misunderstanding do

you have you made any major mistake that

people do in

about well some of my mistakes are very

public I mean Microsoft uh you know we

had lots of products that didn't work

you know we did a a phone operating

system and now uh you know Android you

know took that position so I certainly

you know messed that up uh uh in a in a

huge way uh for the foundation you know

we often have multiple plans you know we

we wanted to have an HIV vaccine uh we

don't have that yet you know we're

working on a very cheap toilet but it's

still too expensive uh so that's taking

a lot longer we don't have polio

eradication done I'm still uh very

committed to that but it's it's taking a

lot longer uh than than we thought it

would so do talking about foundation

work you've impacted millions of life

and you spent a lot in making people's

life better what's your biggest

challenge today because some somebody on

somebody who's watching this might think

that at your level with so much power

influence money you can actually fix a

lot of problems what do you think is

your problem like what challenges do you

see

here well I love the scientific

challenges I mean we still don't fully

understand

malnutrition uh we have some tools to

reduce it that it's super exciting uh

but you know I'm really pushing our

research workers uh hard that okay you

know we need we need to know more about

that you know I do think getting money

to help the very poorest countries a lot

of which are in Africa you know Asia you

know uh many of the countries are having

good economic growth and in

Africa has a lot of

unique uh governments or instability

or disease challenges and

so telling people they should you know

help out uh other humans even though

they're they're far away and speak a

different

language that's not as easy as I thought

it would be uh you know right now some

of the rich countries including my

country are cutting their aid budgets

and I'm I'm very disappointed uh you

know to me that's not you know the

golden rule of treating people like

you'd like to be treated so what do you

think all the people who are watching

this including me uh young people should

do so that we could convince more people

to help other people well when you're

young uh if you're here in India you

know you can probably travel you know

some modest distance an hour or to and

see people you know who don't have the

same opportunities you do that you know

they're smart but their school's not

good or you know they get uh some health

problem and they're not able to access

things I would say in India you know

programs like the aspirational district

program India does uh talk openly about

the places that are the worst off and

that's you know that's pretty impressive

uh you know even issues like sanitation

that governments most governments you

know you wouldn't catch them talking

about

toilets uh you know this country you

know took on pretty aggressive plan and

made a lot of progress on that so you

can go out and

see uh people and develop empathy uh

without going too

far and you

spent hours and hours and days in this

country you spent Millions on vaccines

and trying to take care of healthare

challenges what's one problem you feel

that money not

fix

H you know there's a lot of talk about

uh

obesity and uh you know when I saw the

Prime Minister he was talking about

various yoga type things that you know

if people would adopt those but it's

been hard you know not many countries

have gotten the behavior change you know

maybe India can Pioneer some approaches

there but you know frankly and I'll

sound like a technologist the most

promising thing is actually uh a you

know a drug a class of drugs called

these glp1 drugs that you know are going

to go off patent and become cheap and

you know so I always like a you know I'm

a little overfocused on a a scientific

solution so maybe a combination of that

behavior change and and the new tools

but Behavior change is hard um we we

haven't uh succeeded in that as as much

as we'd like to that me one Behavior we

all should

adopt well you know the behavior that's

helped me is is basically being a

student all the time wanting to learn

things and being pretty brutal with

myself of do I really understand you

know what's going on you know do I

understand some AI thing or uh some

disease thing and you know

fortunately uh I can meet with people

people who in many cases can help me

understand and then you know knowledge

if you're careful about building your

your knowledge it all kind of connects

together but uh you know reading a lot

being a student you know having people

who can teach me uh uh that's you know

been not only fun for me but also a big

part of My

Success so all of people who are

watching this actually feels pretty

validated dated at this point good

because this whole podcast is about

learning from really really incredible

people like you and we have so many

questions that we just keep asking to

learn more to learn more to get inside

brains so thanks for

validation

perfect what's fascinating for me this

time in your journey like this time your

visit to India the full Gates Foundation

board is your right and that's pretty

unique and they get to experience

India what what do you think what are

your

priorities with regards to this nation

why the whole board is here what do you

guys are trying to figure out what are

the things that you're doing well as

much progress as we've been part of

achieving here in India there's still a

lot to do uh you know the the child to

death rate is about a third of what it

was um but it's still

almost three times higher than in a rich

country uh so we you know we should all

want to close that Gap uh that's uh

Equity uh I mentioned

malnutrition uh you know the country is

very serious about that and yet um you

know it means that your brain never

develops and sadly if whatever dietary

or disease things affect you uh during

pregn pregnancy in your first year even

if later you get a fantastic diet your

brain and your physical uh capabilities

they don't adjust you're you know sort

of permanently affected and so um you

know we're working with some great

scientists here we have a lot of the

tools of biology have gotten a lot

better so I do think um you know in the

next decade we'll totally get to the

bottom of that uh and you know I'm I'm

thrilled to do that and a lot of

the scientists we partner with you know

including some at icmr but you know lots

of Institutions around the country uh

they're also uh committed to that so you

work here a lot and with the foundation

you work around the world a lot of

things and because of all of this

passion and data and this intention to

try to help people you've been pretty

accurate in trying to understand Trends

way before people like a normal people

let's say you were pretty accurate in so

many things in

predicting so many epidemics as well is

there something that you know which we

don't like how do you spot these things

way faster well the biggest change agent

in my lifetime has been the the miracle

of digital you know now uh moving into

the AI phase of of that digital

Revolution so the fact that as a young

person you know I was programming at age

13 and by you know 18 I had my you know

thousands of hours of uh really strong

feedback about you know getting better

and uh being pushed uh and so to it's a

really lucky thing to have such a

familiarity with the thing that's going

to change the world and so you know I

wrote a book called the road ahead a

long time ago you know that talked about

uh you know the internet and digital

money and uh video

conferencing and then when I moved into

the foundation work the health work you

know people in that Community understand

pandemics and you know so my saying hey

you know there's a big risk and the

thing that's going to K you know 10

million additional people is likely to

be a

pandemic uh you know that's commonplace

knowledge if you're in the global Health

Community it's a very small community uh

but I was just somebody who was listened

to uh uh

stating uh this and sadly you know most

the people who listen to that prediction

uh listen to it after it came true then

you know what my goal was was people to

hear the that and actually uh stop it

from happening that's usually the case

right like people listen

to Pieces golden edwise pieces and

pieces of nuggets way after the time has

been passed right because of this do you

fear anything today I definitely hope

that we shape

AI in a positive way it's such a big uh

impact on you know

being smarter than humans uh that it

will change our world a lot um and it's

you know it's it's definitely new

territory so I have a list of about five

things you know AI shaping AI properly

is at the top of that list but you know

avoiding the next pandemic avoiding

nuclear war uh biot terrorism climate

change it's only about five or six

things that we need

to um minimize

the chance of um you know and use our

additional wealth and insights you know

against those things do you have any

personal fear what's your biggest fear

you know it's not like I'm afraid of

heights or planes or fire or anything

like that you know I hope I'm I'll be

sad as my

brain uh gets less capable you know

which you know I'm as I turned 70 this

year you know I'd be lucky to have 20

years of you know being able to learn uh

you know maybe I'll get lucky and get a

little bit more but you know that

disappoints me because I've had such a

amazing time learning uh things and I I

used to think of old people as not you

know contributing all that much and now

I've had to change my mind about how how

important old people are uh do you do

you feel difference I don't I don't all

uh you know probably if I I took an IQ

test I I would do a little bit worse

than when I was

25 uh but you know I've accumulated

enough knowledge you know so

wisdom uh you know can compensate a

little bit for a slight uh reduction

intelligence and I do think it's like a

muscle that if you're pushing yourself

to think and learn that you know you

stay uh it really helps your capability

a lot um but yeah I have a fear that you

know I eventually I'll lose you know I

won't want to pick up a 500 page book

I'll look at it and go are you kidding

uh I'm done with

that so with age you have not felt any

changes in your brain not really in

terms of

um wow no I don't think so um you know

whenever you can't remember something

you're like oh no now but uh

uh you know so maybe a tiny bit of that

but then you know it's just a little bit

because you're you're looking for it you

know when I was in my 20s if I could

remember something I I was like so what

uh uh so is there any change you feel

because so Bill Gates of 25 and Bill

Gates of 70 is there any change that you

feel personally well in my 20s I was I

chose to focus on one topic from you

know 20 to about

31 or two

um I told myself hey I love biology and

math and all these things but I want to

be the person who's advancing software

faster than anyone else and so I really

did narrow my focus and I I didn't you

know take much time off and I could stay

in the office you know 72 hours and then

crash um and so my

adrenaline and was really unique now my

understanding of how to manage people uh

other than myself wasn't that that could

you know i' I I look back

and you know I've learned a lot since

then but just my

stamina uh and focus for that period of

my life you know being kind of kind of a

a

maniac uh was was the right thing and

you know I I you know my competitors

would say oh no you work too hard and

I'd say yes I do uh do you think that's

a great advice for every young person

who's watching maniac in your 20s it's

not it's not for everyone um but if

you're if you're in a

race uh

and you know the a little bit moving a

little bit faster can make a a

difference uh then yes your your 20s

when you have no wife and no children uh

that's the time to do it uh that's the

time to be little maniac about certain

things right you also just mentioned

that you love learning which obviously

the world knows but during this

conversation also you just talked about

it like a little bit again again what

are you currently learning or what do

you want to learn now well there's a lot

going

on uh you know AI just staying on top of

that is you know I I very much enjoy

that and I get to sit and talk with the

top people at open Ai and I get to play

around with things but then when you

think okay now about what about AI

applied to Mental Health Care uh you

know isn't that one of the most exciting

things because you know we can never

have enough

therapists uh and even people who

aren't uh you know suffering massively

you know maybe we could help uh

even people with mild uh symptoms so you

know what does this AI companion look

like and you know how can

that help us uh my friend Reed Hoffman

uh just wrote a book called Super agency

that he's got a really good about this

so I'm pushing myself to try and

understand uh you know what can we do

there and meet the people who are you

know pushing the the boundaries uh

because I see such potential so what

would you advise young people to start

learning today and from where AI itself

well if you have a mathematical mind you

know not everyone should learn AI uh you

know these tools are going to be

available uh to everyone and so you

ought to be a user of AI but the

underlying stuff you know that's a

pretty narrow set of people who will

have an opportunity to uh you know push

on a new Training Method um and even

people who grew up with software some of

them don't really get this because it's

it's a bit more mathematical than it is

just a a Programming type thing

so it's as a user that okay if you you

like doing creative work

yes AI is going to change your world and

AI hopefully can help you uh do things

faster and better so my prescription

would be yes to use it for the areas

that you're excited about any area that

you're excited about learn from learn

about that and try to make a bridge

between Ai and that industry right I

mean the internet has so much

educational material on it so between

all that material uh and then an AI that

can help you know take long documents

and you can have a dialogue with it uh

you know you can do it in text or you

can you know now do these generate

podcasts about things it's uh it's a

great time to be a learner right you

know when I was young I had to go to the

library and you know read the

encyclopedia alphabetically uh no

multimedia uh this is a a paradise yeah

thanks to you guys because you digal

world Digital World you made it easy for

us we don't know the world what it look

like to go to library and read about

something we get fidgety if we don't get

an answer in 3

seconds okay I have last two questions

for you okay one is in your philanthropy

work with the foundation how is in India

contributing to your Global strategies

well more and more of the

Innovation um is been done in India uh

India's you know got a depth of talent

and a desire for Frugal Solutions and so

even though the rich World us Europe you

know we have a lot of talent and for

some basic science thing like Immunology

a lot of the new insights will keep

coming uh from those in institutions but

when it comes to actually putting the

pieces together including something like

AI for healthcare you know I was just

meeting with a number of companies

working on on very piece various pieces

of that in India uh and so the you know

we need better seeds and we need better

weather advice for farmers and so

although we're going to continue to do a

lot of implementation here in India help

you know get things rolled out uh more

and more of our sort of product research

uh work will be done here okay uh both

because um it benefits India but you

know we're also very good if if it's

saving Indian children really working

well you know our foundation has a lot

of presence in Africa so even take you

know the classic example where India was

totally the leader on this digital

public infrastructure the the digital

money an identity adhar thing uh you

know funding the Africans to come here

and learn and uh for their budgets and

create helping to create the open source

software that makes it easy for them you

know that's now a huge agenda item which

is kind of a South South thing with a

little bit of facilitation from us got

it and here's the last question

uh if you had if the world had to write

one sentence

next to the name Bill Gates what would

you want them to write you know I don't

do my work you know based on some epith

uh you know ideally you know they'd say

that wow there were these diseases

around you know polio and malaria and uh

malnutrition and you know now we don't

have to think about that you know partly

because uh he championed you know

putting more

uh great thinking and resources into

ending those problems and so you know I

hope people look at the word polio and

go what was that uh you know when you

read dickens's novels and they talk

about somebody had consumption it's like

what is that well that's actually TB so

we still not in the UK we don't have

much but we we we still do they just uh

change the word so you know hopefully uh

some problems that that we can actually

finish uh and and then move on which

problem do you think we'll be finishing

well polio uh you know I I expect even

in five years uh and that'll give us uh

The credibility to go after things like

malarian measles that's amazing oh it is

it's going to be fun uh it's it's

amazing in five years we can make that a

reality it's going to be incredible for

the humankind it's wow yeah it's only

happened only once small poox was

eliminated back in 1980 so you know

polio of serious disease it's going to

be the

second wow I really truly wish that it

happens faster than what we just talked

about and I hope like more than by the

time the foundation gets in full-fledged

in the work I I believe instead of not

two three there could be multiple of

them so that you you lost counting that

should be the goal and I'm expecting for

it well thank you so much for doing this

sir it was pleasure having you when I

was a kid I was growing up in school

just you were the richest uh person in

the world and before I gave it away yeah

so your name would pop up so just to

talk about you and how you made your

money was a proud feeling in school and

in friend Circle everybody would respect

you that oh you know so much about this

person and that from there that kid

sitting right in front of you and trying

to you know being in a situation where

I'm sitting with you and figuring out

what's going on in your brain it's an

incredible opportunity I'm so grateful

thank you so much for doing this it's a

dream come true great we'll have to do

it again yes we need to I've got you on

camera now thank you thank you pleasure

I'm definitely nervous it's a big big

big

time it's time let's go I'm

excited hi hi Raj how are you very good

how are you pleasure meeting you so yes

that's fun it's it's a pleasure seeing

you Beau I'm pretty nervous at this

point so uh just bear with me it be good

good I had 500,000 things to talk to you

and now I'm speechless and like there's

nothing in

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