CELEBRITY ATHLETE Reveals The MINDSET You Need To WIN IN LIFE | Novak Djokovic & Jay Shetty
By Jay Shetty Podcast
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Childhood resilience forged in war**: Novak Djokovic's childhood was marked by the Yugoslav Wars, including bombings in 1999. Despite the trauma, his parents taught him not to judge an entire nation for the actions of a few, fostering forgiveness and resilience that shaped his character and career. [12:50], [15:12] - **Ego as a partner, not an enemy**: Initially viewing ego as an adversary, Djokovic now believes it should be befriended. By working with his ego rather than against it, he disarms its negative potential and fosters a more collaborative internal process. [01:51], [02:14] - **The power of preparation in success**: Djokovic emphasizes that 80-90% of a tennis match or success is won before stepping onto the court. Thorough preparation, encompassing physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects, is crucial for achieving goals. [50:54], [51:18] - **Inner work is the ultimate goal**: While achieving professional goals like being world number one is important, Djokovic now understands that the most significant work is internal. This inner growth, focusing on self-awareness and emotional management, is key to a fulfilled life, not just a successful career. [46:35], [47:03] - **Open-mindedness unlocks potential**: Djokovic considers an open mind his greatest achievement. It allows for natural growth, embracing life's flow, and learning from the world, leading to greater fulfillment, joy, inner peace, and emotional balance. [26:45], [29:40]
Topics Covered
- From War-Torn Revenge to World-Class Resilience
- Why an Open Mind is Your Greatest Achievement
- Inner Work: For Self-Growth, Not Just Achievement
- Hack Your Subconscious: Repetition for Desired Life
- Befriend Your Ego for Inner Harmony and Control
Full Transcript
i can show to the world that uh you know
kid from
you know war torn country can actually
be the best
in in a sport that is very global that's
what happened but all of these
experiences
have been there for a reason and i i
don't regret anything i don't pity
anything i just feel like that's
something that i had to go through
and i think it's so beautiful that you
are mentoring other
serbian talents and tennis players
because i think that's what everyone
needs they need a
a guiding hand they need someone who's
been there we need to share
absolutely yeah and i think so much of
the time we live in this scarcity
mindset even with the deals
people say things like oh it's good for
you right now but it might not be later
so make the most of it and and then that
intention is fueling people's
true you know greedy mentality like oh
now is the time you've got to use it
otherwise you know
i know i know because i i i've been
and and still trying to learn how to
manage this myself
because i have also lots of
opportunities and being number one of
the world and
tennis is a global sport and everything
but you know
i i'm kind of going through the this
this
um kind of centering
process of understanding what i need to
you know
do in order to organize my life better
in order to focus on
what is the most important you know
aspect of my existence
here you know the the the inner peace
you know the spiritual growth the
understanding of of
self and and of course the family the
close ones
but you know for for most of my career
it was about tennis all the time you
know
so tennis dennis dennis and then my ego
plays with me so much i mean he plays
with all of us you know absolutely
but you know it's i i've been i've been
thinking firstly that ego is the enemy
but
actually now i'm i'm kind of more
leaning towards the theory that
that ego is is it should
be befriended you know it should be
you know part of your process
of thinking of feeling and
and and in this way you are also
disarming your ego in a way right
rather than kind of trying to reject it
and then you creating this and this is
it's so much
you know what we are actually going
through out in an outside world as well
right yeah
absolutely yeah so let me introduce you
and then i'll explain why i did it
because i think it makes sense
hey everyone thank you so much for
coming back for this very
very special episode i'm genuinely so
honored and grateful to introduce our
next guest
not only is he the number one tennis
player in the world he has 14 grand slam
titles
including four wimbledon's but on top of
all of that he's extremely spiritual an
incredible healer transformer
and someone who's doing so much great
work in the world
i've had the pleasure of getting to know
him over instagram and whatsapp and
today i get to sit down with him
for the first time but he's definitely
someone who's attracted me
here to monaco through his energy and
through his incredibly
humble and graceful spirit so novak
it is an absolute pleasure with you my
friend my friend
and i and i feel your energy over what's
happening instagram i feel it in front
of you right now
and i really believe that we've just
been pulled together
so so good i mean thank you so much for
for coming
to to see me here i i'm really honored
um and it's as you said you know
social media was the platform through
which we established the
the first uh connection but
i feel like you know watching you uh
and and what you do and and sharing your
message i felt connected you with you
instantly and
your message deeply resonates with me
with
people that are close to me and uh it's
it's a dream come true to be with you
here today
no you're the sweetest man and and i
genuinely feel that when you have a good
and anyone who's listening
i highly recommend this if you have a
good online connection with someone
take it offline as quick as you can yes
like turn it into face to face and
that's what i saw that we were
connecting
so beautifully i remember one of the
first things you said to me was
higher forces are connecting us like
higher forces are between us getting
connected
and when you said that to me i just felt
i have to meet you there's no need
to keep this relationship online there's
no need to just
have it here if this is someone who
truly believes there's a deeper
connection here
let's let's get together let's see each
other so i'm so grateful that you opened
up
this opportunity for me to visit you
thank you very much and i'm really
grateful that
and and generally you know honored that
you
you guys came all the way from la you
know it's it's a long trip
and and i think we you know we all
uh share a common kind of vision
and and and compassion for for you know
for the world and we
i think we all interact you know with
the world in
very similar ways even though we you
know i'm an athlete
uh but i i don't like to categorize or
label myself as an athlete you know as
society likes
um i think we we expand much more than
that
and uh social media and and uh
internet is is great if you use it in
the right way
so i i feel like it's it's a great
platform
it got us connected and we're here today
uh and and not a while ago i've sent you
a message on instagram because i'm
i'm your fan i follow of course i follow
your message and i follow your energy
and everything that you've been
spreading and and sharing with people so
uh
i'm just happy to to get deep and talk
about
uh you know things that i usually don't
get asked
on the tennis tournaments so it's it's
really exciting
absolutely absolutely and that's what i
love about you and that's what i'm
excited for everyone who's listening and
watching
is that you are an athlete but what i
was saying to you earlier is
you are so much more and you have so
much more to give you've worked so
hard on the court but what i love about
you is that you're also an inner athlete
like you're doing this inner work and
and you've really focused on growing
yourself healing yourself working on
yourself so let's dive into all of that
today
make this the interview when you make
this the interview where you get to talk
about everything that's important to you
and that's why this podcast actually
started i was speaking at an event last
year
and tom brady was speaking before me and
he was interviewed by a sports
journalist
and the conference was actually about
building meaningful lives
so i was asked to speak about that topic
tom was speaking before
and the interviewer asked him a question
and tom started speaking about his
family
he started talking about being a father
he started talking about all these
beautiful values and responsibilities
and and how he's growing now that his
sports career is
is coming to a you know a natural end
etc
and the sports journalists just said to
him they said tom
leave all this soft stuff let's talk
about the sports
and and i felt so bad for him because i
just felt like he was really trying to
open up his heart
and the sports journalist was almost
just squashing all of that and saying
let's just talk about your rings like
let's talk about the medals
and so i wanted to build a platform
where people like yourself
and people from music media movies film
everyone
can actually come and talk about your
deeper sides
and and your real heart so i want you to
feel really comfortable to be able to do
that today
i am very much are definitely one of the
very few people that
uh in my life and that i've
known you know thus far and and of
course
uh that i'm following that i can share
this message with and i i i truly mean
that because
and i i don't mean that in a bad way for
the society i'm not judging i don't like
the judgment i don't like that you know
the word hatred or anything like that i
you know
i i respect everyone and and we i
respect also this kind of uh
moment in time that we as people are
yes you know and our society is where it
is
uh with a reason and we just have to go
through that stage of development i
think and
an evolution and uh it took me time to
really
i feel like come to that understanding
in a way
because i was also for many years
through my character building process
and spiritual development and kind of
opening my mind
to different dimensions and horizons of
of you know self-awareness and self-care
i i was just feeling um
a lot of times uh lonely you know and
and uh i just
felt like the what i was doing was not
understood especially in my world
and not just understood but it was not
accepted which was uh
even worse because then you know you're
labeled as a
kind of like a black sheep you know in
the herd
and and but i still wanted to play
tennis and still stay in that in that
in that sport in that uh you know field
of life and which i have and i'm not
you know regretting contrary i'm so
blessed
to do what i love i've started playing
tennis when i was four years old
um and my family did not have any tennis
tradition so it was
literally a sign of a destiny
three tennis courts in front of my
parents restaurant in a small
mountain place in serbia called coponic
my father was sorry but giving you a
little background yeah my family
um was a professional skier he was a
skiing instructor that's how he met my
mom
on the skiing slope and you know it's a
funny story you know she kind of like
tell us that she you know she she was
skiing and then she fell and then he was
there and he's like i
need to help he didn't trip i think i
can help you
he probably organized the whole thing
you know but uh
but you know that's how they met and you
know they they you know six months later
they got they got married and i was
already my mom was pregnant with me and
and then
a year later they opened a restaurant in
the very mountain where they met
and that's the the restaurant was the
business
that generated the you know the budget
for our family so we spent a lot of time
there
because we lived uh three hours by car
away in the capital city of serbia
belgrade where
i i went to school and my two younger
brothers have two younger brothers
um their names are marco and georgia
their
one is four years old younger than me
and the other one is eight years younger
than me
and this is like we talked about you
know my children and the indigo children
that kind of like a new wave of
you know of energy and consciousness and
awareness that we're receiving from
above
through children that already have you
know what we don't have
you know and that's what i see in my
brother you know
and and he's been born with this
capacity and ability to just
multitask and deal with things so
successfully and still be happy and it's
it's quite amazing
so you know going back to to to my story
is
you know i've i felt that in my world of
tennis i just uh
when you're a professional athlete um
you know it's all about winning or
losing right i
i just i don't see losing or failure
as as such i i see it as
another great lesson um that
awaits for me to learn from did you
always have that even when you were
young yeah no i just as i said i i went
through my evolution
and and uh i was fortunate really
that when i started playing tennis i
ran into and came across some really
really knowledgeable people
about tennis and about life in
particular
one woman and her name is yelena gentich
she's not with us anymore she passed
away in 2012 but she was my tennis
mother
so my parents uh you know invested a lot
of energy and efforts and
in those times during 90s when i was
growing up
we had two wars we had
unfortunately war that broke down the
whole yugoslavian region because it was
big yugoslavian country very strong
made of you know six different states i
mean countries that are
right now independent i'm coming from
one of them which is serbia
and uh and then during 90s from like 91
92
all the way till 2000 we had embargo
so people waiting in line for bread and
milk and like
absolutely most you know necessary
things and
then 99 we had in serbia we had bombings
for two and a half months every single
day and night
i was there my family was there every
single day we woke up every night for
two and a half months
because of the alarm and because of the
planes flying over us and
it was it was devastating it was
frightening it was uh
worst thing that that definitely we you
know we ever experienced
uh you know seeing planes over your head
and just dropping bombs and all you know
hospitals and
and everything it was just uh terrible
many innocent people died
thankfully i i didn't lose personally
anyone that is
very close to me uh but i know people
that lost
you know their loved ones and uh that's
a scar that stays with you forever
so this memory stays and will stay with
me forever but
um at the beginning i
felt like probably most of the people in
my country um
i felt i want revenge
you know i felt like you know who are
these guys to bomb innocent people what
the hell is going on i was 12 years old
and i remember
uh i was there day and night and i
celebrated my 12th birthday
during the day because we didn't go to
schools obviously it was just uh
hiding in shelters and everything and
then we just after a week or two hiding
in shelters
we just said okay we're just gonna you
know go about our life
and that's it you know we don't we're
not gonna care what happens
if you know if we're hit we're hit you
know what we can do
i mean and so i remember on my 12th
birthday
uh kids were singing my friends at the
tennis club because we spent a lot of
pla
a lot of times playing tennis because we
we didn't go to school so for us it was
great
and uh and then we we they were singing
the happy birthday song and there was a
plane flying and i have this image and i
was playing
and just kind of dropping bombs
everywhere and it was
it's terrible but at the same time i
i've i felt like as as i was
kind of growing you know inside out as
well
i felt and i think my parents helped me
a lot with that
is that they you know we can't
judge the whole nation or everyone
for the actions of certain individuals
or certain
groups or institutions or whatever that
decided to
bomb our country and just kill innocent
people we can't
you know judge everyone for that you
know
and and that's that's when i kind of
like shifted and i just i
right you know this moment absolutely
forgiven
everyone and everything that has done
that but
you cannot forget that you know you
cannot forget that it stays as i said as
a scar
but it has on a brighter side brought a
lot of
value to my life and a lot of
appreciation for the value
i felt like this experience i'm so
grateful for this experience i truly am
because
it has helped me to shape me into the
person that i am today
the player tennis player that i am it
has made me hungrier for
the success in tennis made me hungrier
to
work train build myself so i can show to
the world that
you know kid from you know war torn
country
can actually be the best in in a sport
that is very global
and uh and and so that's that's what
happened but all of these experiences
have definitely uh
been there for a reason and i i i don't
regret
anything i don't pity anything i just
feel like
okay you know that's that's my karma you
know that's something that i had to go
through and i had to
live uh that and and and and
if we manage to get through that as not
just as a family but as
people as a nation you know there's
there's not much that can break you down
so
you know historically you know serbian
people and people in the region have
have had a lot of
you know hard wars and hardships and
and and they've been through that so
it's it's really was really nice to see
the
the unity with people and i remember one
of the i was actually talking the other
day with with my brother and my wife
about
still reflecting on that stay on that
period and what was the strongest
image that stayed with us from this
bombings of two and a half months in 99
and one of them for me was obviously the
one that i explained
to you with that with a birthday and
shelters but there was one
where i remember uh
thousands of people gathering on the
bridge one of the most important bridges
in
in our city uh with uh shirts
uh that that have targets there and
everyone painted their heads with tar
like like in a in a shape of a target
and
singing songs and you know kind of just
enjoying having fun and in a way showing
to the world
and to whoever is you know uh
you know kind of kind of dropping bombs
that we are the target so
we are protecting this bridge we are
protecting this this city
you know if you want to crash it you
have to go through us and and it was
i think more than that it was just that
that that power of unity you know that
that energy and that strength that they
just showed their resilience
and that was beautiful you know in in
those moments of hardship
that's incredible man that's that's such
a
i've heard you tell that story i'm
sidetracked from your quest
no and i've no no i'm glad you did
because i've heard that story before i'm
glad that everyone who hasn't heard that
story before has an opportunity now
and and the reason why it's so beautiful
is because
that's probably like most of the planet
does not experience that
that's that's pretty extreme yes right
and so for someone like you to come from
that
extreme and especially what you said
your initial response was revenge
for you to be able to transform that
revenge into resilience
that's incredible because it would have
been so much easier to just have that
pain and have that
unforgiveness and so it was a great
story that
that um i've read and i'm sure it's
quite popular on the social media
everyone is sharing it
it was about the snake and the in the
soul okay i don't know if you came
across it
and it's you know the snake it's kind of
it's true story actually the snake came
into the
you know carpenting's uh uh uh shop
and um it it
as as it was kind of going and it got
caught by a saw
and the saw kind of cut it and the snake
didn't realize what was happening
so it went to to bite to to yeah to bite
the saw
and it hurt itself even more so
the snake didn't know what was happening
so it started going around
the the saw in order to you know
suffocate it
thinking that saw is attacking it so it
was
you know protecting itself and finally
uh
snake died and and this kind of
translates into life
and it's so many times that we get angry
or upset
you know with some people thinking that
we want to hurt them because we feel
hurt but
finally we're hurting ourselves and and
it was is such a deep
message that i kind of like resonated
with really and i think that
kind of sums up my evolution in a way
and and and uh my growth uh
mentally of how you know i i should deal
with these particular circumstances and
in events that have been
quite uh significant uh
in my life and you know the wars and and
those times of
you know uh hardships were definitely
one of the most significant
uh times of my life in my career
where where i experienced uh what it
feels like to literally have
ten dollars in at home in the apartment
with
with uh you know for my father and my
mother with three children
to feed and uh having to wait in the
line to get piece of bread
for hours and uh and not being able to
travel around the world
to play tennis uh in tennis is
expensive sport absolutely and you know
you need
money to pay for the record for the
tennis balls for the coach for the
court so all these things you know and
and
they i think in the end of the day as i
said
it brings it brings light
and value to my life because
you know i think going through all of
that has
made me stronger but at the same time
made me more
grateful because i understand the both
extremes so to say because
today i really uh i enjoy
so much of you know
success in this you know society
and the sport and i can afford many
things and i'm really really grateful
for that and blessed
but i've been on the on the opposite
side so i think that
that storyline is is really something
that
enriches me absolutely man and your your
life story is such a beautiful message
to the world
it's a great message to the world like
it's it's incredible and i'm glad that
i see when from the way i view it you
you live it like a message too it's not
about you
that's that's how i feel when i'm with
you that it's not about you it's not
like i did this
it's actually a story and a message to
the world that you know
any child any person who is in such
abject conditions can actually transform
their lives so thank you for being there
thank you thank you and i i just feel
like you know the
the message i can share from my
experience and i don't want
ever for people to feel that i'm
preaching or anything like that i just
feel like my experience has helped me
to reach you know certain success if you
want to call it you know um
yeah in both professional and private
uh way uh is is that there is always
time for everything and and you know
i've i'm learning myself even today how
to be patient
how to how to you know coordinate
certain things in my life how to
create space for the biggest
uh quality time that i can have with
my priorities which are my family which
is my growth
and it's and it's a constant juggle and
you can't you can't i
i truly believe in balance but i don't
believe that we can
ever reach a stage and our point where
we can say i'm in balance
you you can be in balance but the next
moment you're not in balance because
that's life and everything is moving
and it's happening so um so that's
that's why i feel like and then through
tennis
i i've learned my you know biggest and
hardest lessons in life and i've
experienced those those emotions and for
me you know tennis court
is still a field
you know uh where where i have a chance
to grow
really and i i when i'm not on the
tennis court
i find it much easier to
accomplish certain things that that i
want to
on a daily basis but then tennis court i
use
as exactly that platform that challenges
me and challenges my ego
so i still have for example outburst on
the court i break a record i scream like
i i curse i know you don't curse at all
and i admire that
amazing that you you took that wow you
got to teach me how to do it
and uh and and and so when that happens
instantly i feel like oh my god why what
what did i do
you know and i have two children you
know
many children around the world are
watching and and
and you know seeing what you're doing
and
imitating you in a way so you're sending
that kind of message so i try always to
have that in back of my mind and you
know subconsciously like okay
you know try to do you know what you do
best but
do it with dignity do it with style do
it you know with always having
you know that kind of inner voice
telling you you know
there's you know thousands you know of
children around the world watching you
play right now
and and absorbing like a sponge every
move everything you say everything you
do
but it's i still do it i still go
through this outburst
and i i felt uh disappointed with myself
for a while
wow because of that i really felt like i
was betraying myself
i was not managing to uh
to do what i intended to do and uh and
and then i learned about surrender and
uh
and then i learned about there is a time
for everything in life
and uh there is a reason why we have to
take every step of the way in order to
reach the top
of in whatever way you you you feel that
top is
is for you and uh and i and then i
understood that
you know i have to accept i have to
embrace i have to channel it and
understand that
you know i still have to work and i have
to work all the way to the last day
that i that i breathe and and and and
i'm happy with that i i really feel like
i
i managed to take that positive leap
in that direction what's you've touched
on a few times then i want to dive into
it deeply you mentioned success reaching
the top
the world sees your success
the world sees your achievements but in
novak djokovic's eyes in your own eyes
what's been your greatest success your
greatest achievement
so far in your perspective it's a good
question
my greatest achievement is my open mind
i i feel that
with an open mind mindless
type of you know perspective and
approach to life
you help all the natural
processes in yourself
to flourish and to excel
and you're embracing the natural flow of
life where you have to evolve and you
have to develop and you have to learn
and i just if i have to define it that
kind of shortly i i would say it's it's
just
open mind because i feel
the ignorance and the close-mindedness
and and certain convictions that that
people have
uh are so strong that
you know you you go through throughout
your whole lifetime
without really allowing you know
yourself to
open up to the world and learn about
all these different cultures and things
that can enrich your life and make you
feel more fulfilled and live a more
fulfilled life
be more joyful have that inner peace
and emotional balance and stability that
we all strive to
and and i just feel with an open mind
you're just helping yourself
and you're able to receive uh kind of
filter
and then you know give at the same time
because
you know the taurus field everything has
to flow so that's how it flows but
if you don't have an open mind then
obviously
your everything closes up whether it's
health whether it's
you know profession whatever it is in
your life it just kind of feels
and i was there i i was there i don't
want people to think that i
i know it all or whatever i just feel
you know
also that i'm sharing the experiences
from my process because i was there as i
said i felt
you know resentment i felt you know
feeling of
revenge i felt hatred i did i felt all
of that
we all you know go through that we're
all human beings we you know kind of
you know experience those kind of
emotions but
i feel with training and repetition
and discipline that obviously sport has
taught me so well
you can really reach anything that you
truly want in desire in your life
and where did that open-mindedness start
like where did you start to notice that
the closed mind was
limiting you and the open mind was
expanding
i think very early to be honest
ever since i kind of
wished to play tennis right when i was
four or five years old
and tennis was never a sport in our
family
i think you know i kind of help also my
parents to
expand you know outside of their in a
way comfort zone and going to the sport
or field of life that is completely
unknown to them in a way
and i think that uh uh you know i i
started playing tennis with four and a
half i think five years old and
before that i was uh i was skiing a lot
and i i remember
even before i started to run i was
already with my dad
you know skiing he was carrying me and
going down the slopes and
and so the first sport for me was king
right and
until i was i think nine years old i
didn't really know whether i want to ski
or play tennis
i was football soccer a little bit there
but it was mostly about skiing or tennis
and uh and unfortunately i mean we've
been through all this and my father
my father asked me i remember i remember
that that day when he sat me down
with my mom and he said
i am ready to support anything that you
desire to do
in your life and i'm here for you
but you have to tell me if it's sport
okay and what sport and uh
and i said okay give me one thing i
needed to
you know and a big decision yeah i mean
and then you get an investment i was
thinking and then i said like
it didn't take me a long time i thought
i said maybe just a little time to think
but then
after half an hour i went to him and i
said it's tennis right
and he said okay tennis it is and and
then
i think us kind of getting into this
um uncomfortable unknown
zone or area or field of life has
allowed us to kind of expand all of us
and and also
having certain mentors and people that
have
greatly positively affected me
on many levels my wife mentioned my
tennis mother as i like to
call her um i've met her when i
was i think five six years old and then
i started training with
her tennis camp summer tennis camp that
was coming from
belgrade from capital city to coponic
this place in the mountains
and then when i was i think six seven
i also started having some private
lessons with her in belgrade while i was
you know going to school and she was
happy to
to to play with me because she felt like
i was very talented and then she told
she told my parents she said i really
feel like
you should try to give your best to
support this child to play tennis
because i've never seen a bigger talent
uh from than him from monica selish who
was uh
you know obviously the best tennis
player in the world and one of the best
female tennis players of all times
and she was her coach as well and
because monica was born in serbia and
then she went to
to live in states where she is today and
uh and of course my parents were like
well
if if such a experienced and
knowledgeable person about
the tennis says that then you know we
should try to
support our child so that's what
happened and
i remember i was watching you know
tennis practices and sessions on the
fence i was climbing i was really really
in love with the sport i was very
passionate about it
and she taught me uh about holistic
approach to life i think wow already
back then when i was seven eight
she really taught me how to you know
think about
the grades in the school the music that
i listen to
the mindfulness that i have the
observation the focus
the kindness the relationship with
people she was working
in in a team with my parents and my
parents
you know i'm really grateful for my
parents because they recognized the role
of a mentor
very early on so they they kind of
teamed up with her
and then you know i was learning a lot
from from from my parents
obviously and continued to learn and
from from my tennis mother so
that has helped me to i feel like
be open-minded and and and understand
but
i obviously went through my phases and
you know through through the process of
learning and
those dealing with those emotions
although i felt when i started
traveling by myself because i was
traveling with my father until i was i
think
16 and then 6 17 i started having my
coach and
and and i you know i didn't get too deep
in the conversations with my dad and
with my mom and i felt
there are some subjects and that
you know i want to talk about and
especially in
you know puberty and teenage years you
know you're experiencing so many changes
and and i was so much in tennis that i
didn't really have time for for
other maybe school activities that my
fellow friends and you know students
were going through
uh because i was so much in tennis and
and then i i started sharing so much
with with my coach
i think that i remember my dad was like
why don't you
share that with me and i was like
because i don't
i don't feel that i've first of all i've
never shared that
those particular subjects and types of
conversations with you and
i don't i don't feel we can we we can
resonate on that level and and we tried
but we
it never worked out so but he was
understanding and that i also have to
have you know people that
that are close to me and then influence
me on different levels
and and that's what i feel like helped
me a lot to uh to develop
wow and one of the things i noticed
about you is also and i'd love to get
your thoughts on this
i feel like it's tough to get to the top
but it seems to be even tougher to get
to the top have a slump or have a moment
of challenge and then try and get back
because you've experienced something and
it's like i know that you've even
credited your wife
with her dedication to self-care
and your work and what she's trained you
or shared with you in journaling
tell us about the bit about the process
that you've taken
to be at the top have challenges and
then still come back because everyone's
been quoting obviously having the
impossible comeback and
but you made it possible what was
happening mentally
spiritually for you not just physically
but what was happening mentally and
spiritually for you
well first of all to reflect on the
impossible word
in in the word you have i am possible
right
so i i truly i don't believe in and you
know
something is impossible i really really
everything is possible as we talked
about it earlier
uh my wife has been um
you know my girlfriend for a long time
ever since
i was 18 she was 19 that's that's when
we
started dating and uh she used to play
tennis
and that's how we met and we've known
each other four or five years before we
started dating
and you know through tennis and and then
she went to study in italy
in milan and i came at more or less the
same time here in monaco
to follow my my coach at the time and i
started using monaco as a base
and she came over milan is close to
monaco so she came over and that's how
it all started and when she finished
studies she was obviously
you know thinking she had a lot of
opportunities for her own career but she
sacrificed that in order to live my
career live my dream
in order to save the relationship in a
way so i'm very grateful for
for for her and what she has you know um
done for our relationship and for me
and i've i learned i keep on continue to
learn from her so much
she introduced me to yoga actually
back in uh back in the days when she was
uh studying
and she is a huge reader she likes to
read
everything and anything and she you know
likes to write as well and she was
being big on journaling all the time and
i remember when i was
quite young from my tennis mother and
from my parents i learned how to
kind of write and have specific things
that i want to share
on the paper i did it you know kind of
like what i'm grateful for and things
like that
which was nice but then i lost that i i
didn't do it for many
years and then she reminded me of that
so i i started doing it again
and and and it felt great because i felt
like i could
release a lot of things that were
tensing me up
through germany through writing exactly
right but also through yoga
you know she learned about it she
because she was so stressed
during her you know uh studies
um she spent the whole day obviously
starting with books and
you know student life isn't easy so she
was looking into ways how she can relax
herself
get more energy and you know she was she
was not drinking coffee or any of these
things
so she came into yoga and she was
sharing it with me so i started doing it
with her
you know the whole the breathing
pranayama
the you know the the sun salutations and
everything and and that's ever since
then we've been doing obviously some
form of yoga
you know try on a daily basis and and um
you know she she's been a very a
very significant integral part of of my
life and my
my evolution and what i'm really
grateful for
is that not only that we you know truly
love each other and we are very
transparent and honest
but also that we have help from the
universe to
actually be in a very similar state of
consciousness
in certain phases of our lives so we can
help each other
learn better and grow faster
in in certain areas with that we choose
that are
you know uh you know part of those
particular periods so yeah
so i think uh she would agree that
when we became parents uh four years ago
that has completely shifted our world
you know upside down up to that moment
we were also spiritual but
you know still quite basic comparing to
what has happened after that
and we truly believe that our kids are
our masters
and our teachers and then they come to
this life to
bring bring lessons for us
and bring help for us to understand
a lot of things about ourselves in the
deeper levels and what we have to work
on
which is is quite contrary to what you
know in a way
yeah society which is like we are
teaching them
which we are of course but you know
actually i've been i've been talking
with her a lot about that
and and now we we have a baby girl that
is one year old
and and she i was mentioning she's a
healer she really is and she brings that
kind of
energy to this world and she has
yeah i mean skyrocketed our
attention for the moments for you know
the consciousness the awareness about
everything i mean even more and we're
like oh my god
you know there's another level there's
another level so we you know we help
each other grow and i think we
it's it's i'm really grateful that i can
share with her
literally everything and anything that
i'm interested in
that i'm going through and you know she
she has been always the shoulder to to
lean on and she has always been there
and tough moments for me in my career
when i was you know going through an
injury recently
and i had to take six months break down
the tennis and
and then when i came back i was like
questioning whether i should
keep on playing on that level or not and
i was
just going through you know just going
through hard work inside and
and then she you know she was there and
she helped me to overcome all of that
uh of course with uh alongside with help
of uh
some uh uh life spiritual teachers that
i have that i can yeah a little bit
um well there are two guys in particular
uh jose pepe maz and and jar koilich
um jose pepe is from from spain and
jacques from uh from serbia and they i
consider them really as
as my spiritual and life teachers my
masters
that i've learned a lot from and back in
i think 2010 or 11 i've met
jarko so about seven eight years ago and
uh
i met him through my wife actually
because my wife had a friend that
knew him and and that's how we got into
it he's uh
he's a reiki healer uh but he's much
more than that
and you know he he helped a lot
both my wife and i to uh
again open our mind even more to
understand how
we can have internal conversations with
ourselves
because i i didn't know how to do it i
didn't know how to verbalize
my emotions and that's where my wife was
ahead of me and that's where we
struggled in our relationship because
she was trying to dig
things out for me and make me share more
but i wasn't
able to do that because i didn't know
how she's like
speak to me what do you feel i'm like
i don't know i feel something i just
don't and
and so i think jacques was was very
helpful in that
and uh and and sounds like everyone
needs that
everyone yeah i mean everyone needs that
of course but
i think you know there's this great
saying
you know when the when when the student
is ready the teacher will come
right yeah so i i felt that
the first initial step i needed to do i
needed to decide
in my mind internally that okay this is
exactly what i need for my heart for my
soul
for my for my growth this is the the
priority
i have to learn how to manage myself
my emotions how to not just to be a
better tennis player
but to be a better human being and um
and so
so then the teacher appeared obviously
and
and then after that obviously i i i
start to expand my
my awareness and and you know
observation of the world
and then i run into pepe who is very
close
person and and also a spiritual life
teacher to my brother
marco and they live in the same place
actually marco my brother went to live
in spain because of pepe
wow and pepe's whole philosophy of life
is love and peace and
and uh he brought that
kind of energy into our lives the perspe
perception of love and peace what it
really means
and at the beginning i i was actually uh
not really supportive i must say of my
brother because he started doing that
before me he started going through
this whole process of learning with with
pepe
and he moved to spain so he can be
closer to him because he felt
you know deep inside that something is
very important that he has to address
uh and i just i didn't get it at that
time i i thought well you know you have
to because he was playing professional
tennis i was like you can't really
you know just love and peace you know
you have to kind of like
go back and train and yeah this have
this mindset if you're loving peace on
the court the other guy will beat you
and this is what it comes down to you
know
in in sports and he was like listen i i
he's like i understand but
i trust me i have to go through this and
i just feel
that this is my growth and i did i
didn't understand it at the time and
then i
but i was attracted to pepe because i i
felt that his energy was amazing and
you can never get upset with him you
know you speak to him he's like you you
know
you he always smiles and everything you
know even when we have tough
conversations he always smiles and sends
because he always prays inside and sends
you love
yeah and for that he had to work and
still continues to work
i mean immensely and i didn't understand
what
he kept on emphasizing inner work inner
growth
inner work inner growth universal love i
really
i didn't really get it you know and then
and then then obviously uh uh this whole
energy
attracted my wife and i and and we
connected with pepe and with my brother
and
different levels and and today you know
obviously we understand
you know what what he truly what he
truly means
because we embraced that work yes and we
have to do it daily
yes and i just wanted to shortly reflect
on on that inner work
for the purpose or goal my goal for the
inner work
up to not while ago was tennis
wow and that and and i the the
feeling inside you can call it ego
whatever
has drawn me to that sensation of i
need to do this because that will help
me play better tennis
but it didn't resonate something i was
living a successful life but not
fulfilled
yes if you know what i mean yeah uh and
and there was something wrong with that
i i just felt i
i felt the answers of that truth and the
essence and what it really means
to to to do that on daily basis for
yourself
and your growth as a human being and not
just as a tennis player or a doctor or
whatever
but i it wasn't it was weaker comparing
to the other side which was
since i was seven i'm going i dreamed of
being number one of the world that's my
ambition that's my lifetime goal
i have to fulfill it when i fulfilled it
in 2011
i kept on going i just i want to be more
grand slam
i have war grand slam trophies i want to
be number one for as long as i can
it just kept going and i believe that
from my experience you need goals and
objectives
you know and it but you need to
balance that with you know
what is truly the most important work
which is the inner work
yes and and uh i didn't get it up to up
to not a while ago to be honest
and that's when i start to get it and
that's when i start to understand the
message from pepe
he was whatever you do you do it with
excitement with joy with passion
but at the same time never forget
about what you have to do before during
and
after that which is a much much bigger
work and longer work
and and not now now i do truly
understand that yeah give us give us
so for anyone who's listening and
they're like no like i'm like you i
don't get it yeah
yeah you know because so many people
today i feel like spirituality energy
all of these words are flying around the
internet people are talking about it but
there's so many people that don't get it
explain to us in your own way in the way
you see it
what is inner work and what inner work
you do
what you were saying that before that
during that after that has helped you
not just in tennis you've talked so
and reflected so wonderfully on this in
so many of your videos
about the habits about the addictions
that we have
the whole day passes by we're not we
don't
even remember a single moment in the day
because
we've just been distracted the whole
time so
you know if we are learned and trained
to be distracted that's how
you know our life is going to unfold
we're going to be distracted
but if we train ourselves to be present
and more aware then obviously we're
shifting the attention of the
subconscious and all the
internal external energies and nature
and everything into that
you know in a simplified way work on the
habits
right i i mean i have you know still
some habits that need working on
you know and and uh you know it you know
for example the phone right yeah that
that is so addictive and you get into
instagram that i by the way love i love
it
it's great fantastic uh it's how we
connect yeah
yeah but but if you let it
become your master then
that's how it's going to be and you're
going to be distracted you're going to
feel lack of energy
you're going to feel lack of inner peace
you're going to feel
upset you know you're going to have a
short breath
you know all these different things and
that reflects on relationships that
reflects on
you know your performance at your work
or whatever you're doing
and and for me i i try to okay
try to think inside okay what am i doing
right
on the tennis court how can i translate
that
and off the tennis court interesting and
the on tennis court
what i'm doing right is complete 100
focus and presence of mind and body and
everything
discipline working towards
objective organ organized
preparing myself this is a big thing i
feel you know
if you fail to prepare you prepare
yourself to fail right absolutely
so preparation is a huge thing i mean at
least
in in my world for tennis it has helped
me a lot
because i i don't want to put a number
on it but let's say
80 to a 90 of your the match that you
want for example or any success
before you stepped on the course exactly
yeah exactly
how you do your homework uh for you know
in in my instance
you know um obviously working on all my
strengths and weaknesses uh preparing
myself
physically mentally emotionally
spiritually
for the match that is coming up i have
the whole
uh short term and long term plan how can
i get
from from here to there in the shortest
time
those type of things and then
you know obviously doing your homework
on the guy on the opponent that you're
playing against
where you're going to play the stadium
the crowd the weather
you know it's it's really
whole homework that you have to do in
order before you get in and
and then you win a tennis match and then
it's not only about the tennis match
it's 89 of the work that you do
prior to that so that's why i believe
you know preparation
is a big big thing working on the habits
you know the science says that you need
20 what two or three days that you you
can you know shift
you know from bad habit to a healthy
habit so we need persistency we need
discipline
you know we need we need repetition and
bruce lipton that i
also like to listen to a lot he he was
talking about subconscious right and how
subconscious is controlling probably 90
95
of our everyday life so if we can
feed our subconscious with the
information that
is going to allow us to excel and to
live the life that we want to
then that's what's going to happen
because your subconscious doesn't know
what's
good for you or bad for you it just
knows what you tell it
yes and and there's the seeds that you
plant so
so he was talking about you know uh
there are two ways to kind of
hack your subconscious which is hypnosis
which happens from
you know up until you know you're seven
years old
and and then repetition so that's why i
mean
my wife and i are very passionate for
the preschool
education and early childhood
development until you're six or seven
years old that's when
it's most vast brain growth and that's
where you know
the the fundamentals and the foundation
of your life
is set and and that's where you know
bruce was talking about it really
beautifully and and
it made sense and and then after year
seven
it's repetition it's discipline okay
um i'm switching off all my phones
after a certain hour i'm you know doing
my praying work
uh because i believe in the invisible
world
science proves quantum science talks
about it
where most distance points are actually
one in in in a split second and
and we we all have proven that and so
you just need to really believe it in
order to achieve it
you know where your attention you know
where your attention goes the energy
flows
and and i think it all starts with open
mind and you have to i think with a
question
it's always so great to ask yourself
questions
who am i why i'm here what i want to do
what i want to become
what i wa you know just all these
questions put on the paper write it down
go through it you know in your mind
through that whatever your
method is but you just have to address
it
if you don't address it you're going to
go about the same things that you went
about and then you're going to get the
same outcome
that you don't desire so i feel like
that
kind of uh awareness about that uh
just helps you know helps learn
and you know i'm learning from you so
much on a daily basis as well because
you know i obviously follow your work
and and there's so many great messages
out there and i feel like
this is the time where we can expand our
consciousness and get closer to what
who we are because you know the the two
most important
and all this probably questions on this
planet ever since the existence of
humans is
you know who we are and why we are here
absolutely so
i think also the truth seeking um
element and part is also
quite important in that i mean i
consider myself a truth seeker i i like
to
you know try to dig even deeper and
deeper and deeper and understand
who we are you know why are we here is
this a planet is this a realm what is it
you know is this a matrix is it not you
know i
i think it's it's important to us ask
these questions and and get
and do your research and dig deep into
that because although
you know i i think it all comes down to
you know whether you are your
own master or or not
so i think if you are your own master
then it allows you
to take actions the way you want them
rather than
you know i love the gym quick that i
also like very much
and he he talks about
the thermostat and thermometer so
that don't be determines that but be the
terminator set your the temperature set
you you set this temperature of the room
and you set it up the way you wanted it
and thermostat if you set it
then you have to adjust so it's reactive
and i think it's such a such a great
wisdom yeah
great advice man i loved what you were
saying earlier that's that's great
advice and i hope everyone's listening
is
is taking notes but that what you said
earlier i loved you said that for a long
time you believed ego is the enemy
yes and then now you've started to
understand that actually the ego has to
be befriended yes and i thought i was
i i couldn't agree with you more i
couldn't agree with you more sometimes i
believe the ego is like
a perfect mirror to yourself in the self
that you don't want
but at least it starts teaching you the
ego can teach you so much if you're
aware of it so i want to hear your
perception on how you've been switching
between egos the enemy to actually
befriending the ego
well this is because you've got every
reason to have a big year like you've
got every reason and you're not you're
very humble person but you've got
every reason and i do have it and i do
have it and this is this is the point
i didn't understand it at the time and
we talked about it a little bit and
as you reflected i do have a big ego
but i have to embrace it and
and and learn how to befriend it and
deal with it in in a ways that
that i'm to work going to work and team
up with my ego rather than
i'm going to be an enemy of my ego
because then
again i'm reacting then ego can
you know persuade you and do different
things and and mask
you know certain things is so smart and
witty
and then you have to react and then you
have to just kind of like
try to try to handle and juggle so many
things
instead of hey let's team up you're
inside of me
i'm you you're me okay let's figure this
out
how can we work together and you kind of
have to
you know please it and at the same time
you have to control it
and even though i don't really like the
world word control
i still feel like you know
if you if you create your controlled
environment it's going to be
better off for you in your life yeah
i've got so what i what i finish off
with every interview is called my final
five so the five
the first five so these are fast five
questions yes they're you have to answer
so the first question i was going to
answer is uh what's the first thing that
you do every morning
first thing that i do every morning is
prayer
beautiful second question what do you
pray for first i express my gratitude
for for my body for myself
for the opportunity to continue my
evolution
as a multi-dimensional being
in this realm i am grateful for my
family i'm grateful for
being able to have my senses and to have
big bed and to have a most beautiful
sunrise every morning
it's amazing third how do you make sure
that your energy
is where you want it to be spiritually
internally
um continuing to work
on um the things that we we talked about
um so aside of the physical work and
tennis
uh and and duties as a father
and a husband i need to get in
daily something in my self-care
work whether it's only a meditation or
it's a two-minute
breathing prayer whatever it is
sometimes it's only that
because you don't have time but you know
it's important to just
kind of you know keep keep doing it and
be disciplined with it
what's the best advice you've ever
received
be open-minded
i love that theme that's the theme of
this the opening is just like a theme
for sure
it's when you're open-minded then you're
ready to receive
everything that we're surrounded with in
such a beautiful world and we're so
blessed
uh that we live in this world and that
we
go through the process of evolution and
i think when you come
close to the realization of you know who
you are
i think and you continue to seek for
that truth i
just it brings you closer to the source
from where you
arrived and just makes you makes you so
present and makes you so calm
and it makes you so joyful and grateful
for
yourself for people around you for
everything that you have
that you do that surrounds you that
fulfills you
i feel that that's the essence of our
life
amazing and the fifth question fifth and
final question is if your racket was a
magic wand
and you could get the whole world to
understand one thing what would you want
everyone to understand
that our consciousness expands
infinitely beautiful
straight to the point what do you mean
by that what do you want them to
understand for you
and i'm going to give you the
opportunity oh my gosh we don't have
enough time
[Laughter]
that our conscious expense infinitely
means
well at least in my own perception is
that
we are more than we think
or feel with our five senses than we
really are
and when you i feel like
when i came to this realization it just
opened the door to a whole different
universe and i mentioned to me
and i feel that my evolution and my
growth
in every aspect of who i am and my
everybody
has just quadrupled
for light years ahead i just feel i feel
calm at the same time but so excited
for everything that i that life has to
offer that i can learn
thank you novak we still have to do a
part two please dive into all of that
we're gonna have to make it happen yeah
thank you so much man i'm so grateful my
friend thank you for your time and
energy i know you've got so many things
on
your amazing wife i love you guys so
much man infinite love
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