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Dr Joe dispen researcher and

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with the aim of helping people better

understand and unlock the power of their

mind I'm concerned about human species

why 75 to 90% of every person that goes

to a health care facility goes because

of psychological or emotional stress and

it gets addictive to people they need

the bad relationship a bad job in order

to feel and there's so much research to

show that when they analyze their life

within some disturbing emotion we saw

that they were actually making the brain

worse but 50% of that story isn't even

the truth people are reliving a

miserable life they never even had just

to excuse themselves from changing you

can't wait for your wealth to feel

success you can't wait for your new

relationship to feel love but 95% of Who

We Are by the age of 35 is programmed

yeah but there is a way to change and so

the model of change is breaking the

habit of the old self and Reinventing a

new self if you teach people how to do

that in 7 days you can see very

significant changes so try this out as

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is Dr Joe you're someone that's

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way the universe is what are the beliefs

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episode Dr

Joe 95% of Who We Are by the age of 35

is

programmed when I read that in your work

kind of hit me like a ton of bricks

because I just turned

30 and if what you're saying there is

true without realizing it there's a

puppet master that sits above me that's

calling the shots in a way that I don't

think I've

realized is that true I think if we

Define a habit is is a redundant set of

automatic unconscious thoughts behaviors

and emotions that's acquired through

repetition The Habit is when you've done

something so many times that your body

now knows how to do it better than your

conscious mind then it's program

subconsciously so then when the body

knows how to do it better than the

conscious mind then for the most part

the greatest habit we have to break is

the habit of being ourselves right so

there's a principle Neuroscience that

says that nerve cells that fire together

wire together if you keep thinking the

same way uh if you keep making the same

choices if you keep doing the same

things if you keep reproducing the same

experiences and feeling the same

emotions your biology begins to become

hardwired in a sense it be it becomes

programmed so in order to change uh

something to arrive at a new vision of

your future if you were wanted to arrive

at a new goal or new vision of your

future you'd have to change something

about yourself in order to get there and

you'd have to change the way you think

the way you act and the way you feel

when you begin to become

conscious of those unconscious thoughts

so conscious that you don't let them

slip by your awareness unnoticed or

unchecked by you if you catch yourself

speaking in a limited way or um you're

you become conscious that you're

behaving in a certain way in

habit and can notice or pay attention to

how you're feeling then you're no longer

the program now your Consciousness

observing the program you're only

unconscious when you're in the program

and so to change then is to become so

conscious that you don't don't go

unconscious again and in a sense that is

consciousness that is really the puppet

master that really decides who we want

to be I think the biggest problem uh is

that people lose their free will uh to a

set of programs and so their body is

basically um programmed into a

predictable future based on what they've

done in the past so to change then to

change that habituation takes an

enormous amount of energy an enormous

amount of

awareness why is this operating system

this program useful because I look at

everything that I the way that I do and

from doing this podcast and speaking to

experts I've stopped thinking that my

body is against me and I've stopped

realiz I've started to realize that

there's a reason for these things

there's a reason for the habits and

patterns and so why is this useful

because it seems to be working against

me in so many ways well um first of all

um when we when we look closely at uh

certain habits whether you um can ride a

bicycle whether you can speak a language

whether you can snowboard when you first

learn any of those things it takes an

enormous amount of conscious awareness

is to get your body to do what your mind

is

intending but if you keep doing it over

and over again then the body begins to

economize it in some way and so we have

a lot of things that we can do

automatically or unconsciously or

subconsciously that allows us to

multitask to drive your car to talk on

the phone to do several different things

at the same time so a habit isn't a bad

thing they can work for you or they can

work against you the problem is is if

you're

as an example

complaining and blaming and making

excuses and feeling sorry for yourself

and judging other people and you

practice that and you get really good at

whatever you practice you practice that

enough times that you're unconscious to

the fact that you're doing it um the

moment you become conscious that you

want to change that uh you're going to

be uncomfortable uh it's going to feel

unfamiliar it's going to feel some

degree of uncertainty you're Le kind of

familiar known territory and you're

stepping into the unknown and so uh many

people when they want to change a habit

um they have to be willing to be

uncomfortable to do it but habits can

work for us uh there's a lot of great

habits that you and I both have that I

would never want to change or would want

to evolve in some way but then there's a

lot of habits that don't serve us and

and so a person really wants to set a

vision of the future whatever that is

and they just have to agree that in

order to arrive at that Vision they have

to change in order to get there someone

said to me that there's a certain type

of behavior pattern that we can't change

they said when we get trauma under the

age of 10 things that happen at a very

early age some of those things cannot be

changed and then there's things that

happen later in life that can be rewire

and

changed is that true are there some

traumas Behavior patterns that just

appear to be too stubborn and too

resistant to

change if you ask me that question just

a few years ago I probably would have a

different answer than I do today because

if you look at a lot of the work uh that

we're studying in terms of human change

and human

transformation um we've seen people with

really difficult pasts really brutal

pasts that were abused and traumatized

at a very early age um and

then repeated traumas that took place in

people's lives and they had night

terrors and and uh they uh couldn't be

in relationships they had social anxiety

uh they had a lot of health conditions

we've seen them completely change uh

completely change to be happy people

again to to free themselves from the

past and

so I would never put a

limitation on change because I just

don't think uh you can really predict

that I think many people that are

learning how to change uh and they

understand what they're doing and why

they're doing it and the how gets easier

I think for the most part people can

change all kinds of things and when they

do change uh our research shows that

their brain changes their heart rate

changes their gene expression changes

there's thousands of metabolites that

are being released into their

bloodstream that weren't their prior U

there's a host of different changes that

take place biologically that kind of

support the person's transformation

is there a specific

transformation that sticks in your

mind as being the most is the clearest

evidence that you should never write off

um someone's ability to transform wow

um I'm so pleased to tell you that uh my

beliefs have been

challenged uh just in the last two years

in

witnessing so many different changes in

people's Health that I I never knew was

even

possible uh you know everything from

stage four cancers that were in a very

progress state that metastasized to

organs and tissues and bones in the body

a complete reversal in uh that uh in

that health condition not once not twice

not three times uh we've seen it many

times uh we've seen people that were

blind uh that have been dead F that that

have ALS that have Lupus that have MS

that have Parkinson's disease that have

spinal cord injuries that have strokes

PTSD myasthenia gravis cystic fibrosis

muscular distrophy

uh we had a woman that had her thyroid

removed surgically removed and I know

this is difficult even for me to accept

uh and grew a new thyroid back you know

we have the medical evidence for that so

I don't know uh any longer what the

limit is I think there's something

really cool happening in the world when

uh people believe in themselves and when

you believe in yourself you have to

believe in possibility when you believe

in possibility you have to believe in

yourself so uh when

somebody uh has the opportunity and I

think a

story is uh there's no there everybody

loves a story there's nothing better

than a story and when someone stands on

a stage in front of 2,000

people and talks about

their um journey to heal themselves from

a chronic health condition and they it's

not um always pretty they lose things

they lose family they sometimes lose

their careers they get sick before they

get better and you see this person's

persistence and you see that they were

not doing the work uh their inward work

to heal they were doing the work to

change and if they understood if they

truly changed that their biology should

change and they were um uncompromising

every day in showing up for themselves

and staying conscious of their

unconscious self and and then

reprogramming themsel in some way and

they tell that story it's the

four-minute mile it's somebody breaking

through a level of Consciousness or

unconsciousness and the collective

that's

observing the example of

truth they're actually relating with

that person in a way that causes them to

examine possibility differently and when

you become conscious of a new

possibility a change in Consciousness is

a change in Awareness right so now it's

in the collective and lo and behold it's

not uncommon we just had this happen in

our weeklong event in Denver just uh a

little over a week ago two weeks

ago and we had six people stand up out

of a wheelchair at by the end of the

event now I wasn't expecting that but

one uh person that had Ms in the middle

of the week had a very profound

experience very profound experience and

a professional athlete NFL football

player and um stood up and he stood up

for the audience and when he stood up he

said I thought I was going to a Yoga

Retreat I thought my brother was taking

me to a yoga retreat I had no idea what

we were doing here and then he said I

just I just never loved

myself and it was his act of change that

somehow changed his health condition he

somehow

upregulated genes in different ways

suppressed the genes for Ms and somehow

he was more mobile he was walking uh by

the end of the event and he was the

magic number one and when everybody saw

that and they C the audience was excited

we started seeing other people have a

similar experience now that possibility

is becoming more of a reality for people

so I would always I never limit what

could actually happen but I can tell you

that what an amazing time right now uh

to witness uh people really uh doing The

Uncommon when you recited that story I

could see the emotion in your face as

you say it and I can only imagine with

the information that you have and the

beliefs you have about healing change

transformation the sense of urgency you

must carry and the sense of like

responsibility almost I guess you must

carry knowing knowing what's possible

yeah well um um it I I do feel

responsible for always keeping the

information based in science and as pure

as possible I feel it's really important

to do the research that we're doing I

mean we've we've studied

so much uh from a scientific standpoint

the process of change and the process of

transformation and what meditation

actually can do for a person in terms of

their biology and and some of the

changes that we're seeing just in seven

days um my responsibility really is to

give people my greatest understanding of

the truth and numerous opportunities to

experience it nothing more you know

there is a way to inspire people into

possibility

and so they we combine different models

of science whether it's quantum physics

or Neuroscience or neuroendocrinology or

psychon neuroimmunology the Mind Body

Connection epigenetics

electromagnetism all of these Sciences

allow people to understand themselves

better and if knowledge is powered

knowledge about yourself is

self-empowerment you can Empower people

to do something with it so the more you

understand what you're doing in the

process of Chang the more you understand

why you're doing it as I said the how

gets easier

so we now know that if you give people

sound scientific information and that is

the Contemporary language of

mysticism and they can learn that

information they're basically making new

circuits in their brain that's what

learning is learning is forging new

synaptic connections but if you don't

review what you learn if you don't

repeat it it's so much easier to forget

it than to remember it so you got to

repeat it over and over again so we

allow people in our workshops to then

begin to turn uh and teach it back to

somebody they have to really explain it

if they can't explain it it's not wired

in their brain and they're going to

something's going to be left the

conjecture to Superstition to Dogma to

spirituality and and that's not that's

not the result we want we want them to

use science as that model and if they

can explain that model and remind

themselves what they've learned

reproduce the same level of Mind nerve

cells that fire together wire together

so they begin to install the

neurological Hardware in their brain by

teaching others yeah exactly so that

they are prepared for an

experience so then if that information

is installed in their brain that

philosophy that theory uh that knowledge

and information and now they can

remember it and they have that model of

understanding and they understand what

they're doing and why they're doing it

if we can set up the conditions in the

environment and give them the proper

instruction if they can get their

behaviors to match their intentions

if they can get their actions equal to

their thoughts if they can get their

mind and body working together they're

going to have a new experience now

experience enriches circuitry in the

brain that's what experiences does the

moment those neurons begin to string

into place though another part of the

brain makes a chemical and that chemical

is called a feeling or an emotion and

the moment you feel unlimited the moment

you feel grateful the moment you feel

empowered the moment you feel whole now

you're teaching your body chemically to

understand what your mind has

intellectually understood the

information is just not in the brain now

the information now is literally in the

body and now you're embodying the truth

of that knowledge of that philosophy of

that

theory so then you're teaching your body

and and instructing your body chemically

to understand what your mind is

intellectually understood okay so then

that information that's coming as a new

experience is changing your biology in

some way and we've actually shown this

so then if you you've done it

once then it means you should be able to

do it again and the idea is to be able

to repeat an experience and if you can

repeat it over and over again both

neurologically and chemically

neurochemically you can condition your

mind and body to begin to work as one

and when you can do it so many times

that your body now knows how to do it

better than your conscious mind it's

inate in you so I want to map out this

process so that I make sure I understand

it starts with the neurology which I I I

I heard is a a thought which you then

ingrain in your mind by teaching it to

someone else is that accurate well first

thing you have to do is you got to give

people information yeah and science is

probably the closest to the truth in

terms of

information and so when your brain is

exposed to information and you're

present and you're paying attention that

neurons begin to connect that's what

learning is learning is forging new

synaptic connections the noble prize

research kandell in the year 2000 his re

the researcher said that if you learned

one bit of information and you paid

attention that information for about an

hour you would double the number of

Connections in your brain as a result of

your interaction with that information

but if you don't review it if you don't

repeat it if you don't to think about it

the circuit's prune apart right so if

learning is making new synaptic

connections and remembering is

maintaining and sustaining them so it's

so much easier to forget get this

information then to remember it so you

learn it once I got a person's head

nodding then they turn the person next

to and say let me try this out let me

try this out and me see if I can repeat

it and so between the two of them they

exchange that information and they start

to build a model of understanding ah I

understand I got that okay then we

advance the information a little bit

more and they they're adding new

Stitches into the three-dimensional

tapestry of their gray matter and they

have to remind themselves what they've

learned reproduce that same level of

Mind mind is the brain in action

as you install those neurological

circuits in your brain then now you're

prepared it's the Forerunner to the

experience you're prepared for the

experience so give the proper

instruction get your body involved get

involved in the process the experience

then causes circuits to become more

enriched that's what experience does and

then it makes a chemical and that

chemical is called a feeling or an

emotion and the stronger the emotion you

feel from the experience the more you

remember it and what is that experience

what abundance Health wholeness IAL

experience success a new relationship a

new

career um a new life whatever the

person's whatever whatever that Vision

that person wants to arrive at in the

future and to actually go from the

thought of that Vision to the actual

experience of it and the distance

between that thought and that experience

is called time so if we can teach people

to shorten the distance between the

thought of what they want and the

experience of having it

um then they they start believing more

that they're the creator of their life

what would you say to somebody that

doesn't think thoughts matter that much

I would say

95% of the World Plus or maybe more 99%

of the World Plus sees thoughts as

something that we are you know it's my

head talking it's me talking in my head

and as long as I don't act on those

thoughts they're

inconsequential I would I would say then

that's their truth is it their truth I

don't know but for for me my thoughts do

matter I think every thought that you

have makes a chemical and you can have

thoughts that make you feel good and

thoughts that make you feel bad and and

I think that if

90% of the thoughts that we think are

the same thoughts as the day before the

same thoughts lead to the same choices

the same choices lead to the same

behaviors the same behaviors will create

the same experiences and the same

experiences produce the very same

emotions and those same emotions

influence a person's very same thoughts

and their biology their neuros circuitry

their neurochemistry their hormones and

even their gene expression stays the

same because they're staying the same

there's nothing wrong with

that but I do think that if you think

differently and you learn new

information and you have new thoughts if

you can make new choices and demonstrate

new behaviors and create new experiences

and arrive at new goals and feel new

emotions I would say that's

Evolution and I think that people really

really secretly believe in themselves

elves on some level and and I think

being defined by a vision of the future

or really always always dreaming of

another great experience I think is a

great reason to wake up in the morning

I've had lots of conversations with very

smart people on this podcast from

multiple disciplines you know

psychiatrists psychologists athletes

Health practitioners and they've given

me such great advice on which is

irrefutable scientific advice on so many

areas of my life and for some reason

there's still areas of my life that I

still can't act upon that advice and I

think probably for most of my listeners

who've heard great advice on this

podcast and they think yes that's who I

want to be I have an intention to stop

eating sugar at 1 1:00 a.m. at night or

I have an intention to become organized

or to be this kind of friend or partner

they have the information right what

there's something stood in the way of me

doing something about that information

on a regular basis yeah well I can give

you a few answers for that

unfortunately it normally takes crisis

trauma disease diagnosis betrayal loss

the person has to reach that lowest

denominator where nothing's making that

feeling go away has to well not they

don't have to but this is human this is

The Human Condition this is the moment

where they don't feel like returning the

texts they don't feel like going to

dinner and seeing the same people they

don't feel like

um watching the same television show any

longer the sports car the Wardrobe the

none of that is making this feeling go

away this is a a moment of Reckoning for

the soul and this is really when you

could actually see yourself Through The

Eyes of someone else because you don't

feel like yourself anymore and that's

the moment where people begin to change

they can see how they've been thinking

they can notice how they've been acting

they could pay attention or become aware

of how they've been feeling for the last

20 years and that that idea in in

Neuroscience is called metacognition

that's the moment you're no longer the

program now what we believe and what

we've seen and what I think is much

better approach

is um being defined by a vision of the

future and if you

understood that you could actually

elevate your state without anyone or

anything every single day and hold

whatever that intention of your future

is and it takes a coherent brain to do

that and feel the motion of your future

before it happens that is you know you

can't wait for your wealth to feel

success you can't or abundance you can't

wait for your new relationship to feel

love you can't wait for the mystical

experience to feel awe or your healing

to feel whole or grateful that's kind of

the old model of reality of cause and

effect waiting for something out there

uh to change to take away this emptiness

this lack that I feel in here you teach

people then they could elevate their

state and we teach that model through

meditation and they can combine that

clear intention with an elevated emotion

and teach them how to make that heart of

theirs more

coherent if they do that properly then

they'll live their life feeling like

their future has already happened now

from that elevated State instead of that

self-limited state they can become as

conscious of that unconscious self as

they could if they were at that limited

and and being defined by that vision of

the future getting up every day inspired

by it and not letting any person any

circumstance anything in our life remove

us from that Vision that would be a day

well- lived so then most people then

they have that vision of the future but

they give up on that Vision because in

order for them to arrive at that Vision

they have to do something they have to

think differently they have to act

differently they have to feel

differently and it's so much easier to

make the same Choice every single day

and the hardest part about change is not

making the same Choice as you did the

day before and the moment you decide to

make a different Choice you're going to

feel uncomfortable because you're

stepping from the known into the

unknown so some people would rather

cling to their

self-pity than take a chance and

possibility they'd rather tell the story

of their past instead of telling the

story of their future they' rather

believe in their past instead of believe

in their future uh it's so much more

important though to romance your future

instead of romance your past and I think

if people understood that they could

actually arrive at

it I think many people have done this

already in their life I think everybody

at least once in their life has done

something great and when they did

something great they just made up their

mind and they made a decision in that

moment to do something or to change with

such firm

intention that the amplitude of energy

in making that choice caused their body

to respond to their mind that the choice

that they were making to change became a

moment in time that they would never

forget and the stronger the emotion they

felt in order to change the more they

remembered the choice and we could say

then that they're giving their body a

taste of the future emotionally and

they're literally aligning to that

Destiny we discovered that if you keep

doing that every

day somehow you'll arrive at that

Destiny and your biology will literally

begin to change to look like you're

living in a different life what are some

of the biggest myths relating to

behavior change and I guess character

and personality change um that hold

people

back I probably belief I think in so

many ways that a belief is a unconscious

process a belief is a thought you keep

thinking over and over again until it's

hardwired in your

brain and most beliefs are based on past

experiences and so many people have a

belief about something that has to

change in order for them to arrive uh at

a new place in their life and what we

discovered a lot of times with people in

this work is

that they they when they say for example

they were healings of a health condition

sometimes they would do their

meditations three times in one day and I

asked them why three times and they said

because I stopped

believing uh and when I caught myself no

longer believing in it I had to sit down

and change my belief again in other

words they had to get up believing more

in their future instead of believing

Less in it and they have to change their

state of being to do

that so I think that that's a limitation

I also think that consciously we're

always waiting for something out there

in our life to change so that we can

change or feel the relief of the lack of

what we don't

have and I do think that's kind of a

limited model of reality I think when

you start changing inside of you and you

start seeing the changes happening

outside of you you go from being a

victim in your life to being a creator

of your life and and I think that when

that occurs then all of a sudden it's no

longer a have to it's something that you

want to do you don't you actually don't

want the magic to end in your life so

now you become a work in progress by

investing in

yourself when you invest in yourself you

invest in your future so there is

probably a chronic

disbelief that many of us have that

we're not creators of our life uh and

that only when we get the parking space

or something good happens to us do we

believe that we're the creator of our

life but imagine a world where everybody

actually took responsibility in being

the creator of their life and no longer

the victim of their life I think we

would see a dramatic shift in

Consciousness that makes people feel

uncomfortable this idea of personal

responsibility it's quite a it's almost

become quite a controversial

controversial idea the idea that we are

the creator of Our Lives because then I

have to accept responsibility for all

the bad things that happened Dave dumped

me I got fired from

work uh someone bumped into my car and

it hurt my neck well maybe maybe that

happened by default

maybe that happened by not creating

maybe you were just left to the

randomness of reality that that maybe

you're not creating and the fact that

you're not creating you're you're left

to the effects of your environment

actually controlling you controlling

your feelings and thoughts and by

creating what you mean by creating is in

well well if you intentional if you woke

up every morning and you truly made time

to to think like this

okay if my personality creates my

personal reality and my personality is

made up of how I think how I act and how

I

feel if I want to create a new personal

reality a new life I'm going to have to

change my personality and most people

try to create a new reality a new

personal reality as the same personality

and it doesn't work we literally have to

become someone else so if you said

okay let me not default and go

unconscious to that 95% of who I am

that's programmed let me become so

conscious of the way I think let me

become so aware of how I'm going to act

today let me decide what emotions keep

me connected to my past and bring me to

a lower level lower level of energy let

me not go

unconscious and then if you said okay A

belief is just the thought I keep

thinking over and over again what

thoughts do I want to fire and wire in

my brain and with with attention and

with

intention to begin to familiarize

yourself with a new way of thinking

meditation means to become familiar

with if you keep firing and wiring those

circuits you're going to begin to

install the hardware repeat it enough

times and it becomes a software program

that could be the new voice in your head

that says I can it is

possible if you said okay when did I

fall from grace yesterday when did I

when did I lose it oh my gosh it was

with at work work with my co-workers

with my ex with my enemy with the news

with

traffic acting this way is not going to

make me happy if I had another

opportunity another opportunity how

would I do it if you could close your

eyes and rehearse in your mind mentally

how you're going to behave in certain

situations I'll give you a specific one

anyone so I'll give you the specific one

where late late at night on occasion

I've eaten things things that I really

regret eating Al also another one that

I'm I'm trying to work hard on is I can

be very messy with when I travel so my

my hotel room can look like a mess and I

don't like that about myself and I don't

know why I do it but it's almost like

you talk about being unconscious I'm

clearly not thinking about it but that's

part of the problem and it's the same

with the bloody sugar midnight eating

ordering things that are and then

feeling instant guilt 10 seconds after

I've put it in my mouth well well it may

be that on some

level well you could actually be

addicted to the guilt not to the

sugar and so you you return to the same

emotional

state that allows that action to reoccur

so if you said let me decide how I am

going to act what I'm not going to do

and you rehearsed it the research on

mental rehearsal says your brain will

look like you already did it that you'll

be so present the brain won't know the

difference between what you're imagining

and what is real the brain will begin to

change to look like the experience has

already happened now you're priming your

brain for that behavior keep rehearsing

it rehearsing it how so give me well so

I mentally mentally rehearsing mental

rehearsal is one of these great ideas in

Neuroscience where you can actually

install circuits in your brain right so

everybody has done this musicians do it

they're playing a song in their mind all

the time athletes do it they're always

going over their moves uh dancers do it

actors do it uh so many people rehearse

mentally what they're about to do and

when they do that they actually Prime

their brain they actually can change

their brain and change their body just

by thought alone physiologically change

it physiologically change you can take a

group of people that never played the

piano before and divide them into two

different groups and do functional brain

scans on both groups one group

they'll come for two hours a day for 5

days and they'll practice these

one-handed scales and chords now you

learn something new you make new

Connections in your brain you get some

instruction you get your body involved

when you get your body involved you're

going to have an experience you pay

attention to what you're doing and you

repeat it over and over again nerve

cells that fire together wire together

you're going to begin to install new

circuits in the opposite side of your

brain that's that's

common you do the scan at the end you

see those actual physical changes it's

you take those people uh the other group

and you ask them to close their eyes

without lifting a finger have them

mental rehearse those scales and chords

and at the end of five days they grow

the same amount of circuits in their

brain as the people who actually

physically demonstrated the act in other

words they were so present with what

they were doing the brain did not know

the difference between the real life

experience and what they were Imagining

the brain was physically changing to

look like they already experienced it

they already did it so now you take

those people people never played the

piano before they just been mentally

rehearsing for two hours a day for 5

days you set up in front of a piano and

they could actually play those scals and

cords why because they Prime their brain

for that behavior so then if you're

going to prime your brain for a new

Behavior whether you're the CEO of a

company whether you're a

parent uh whether you're learning

something the more you rehearse it

mentally the more you prime your brain

and body for the act so you could

actually practice rehearsing how you're

going to change in your life and if you

keep doing it enough times your

behaviors will match your intentions

automatically because you have the Mind

installed to do it if you don't have the

Mind installed to do it you'll go back

to the same past Behavior so I play

through that

scenario of making the decision

differently exactly and rehearse it in

your mind until it feels right till you

feel like I could actually do that and

go from start to finish without losing

your attention and so that it gets

easier each time you do it it makes

sense then you're you'll you'll actually

do it and then if you said

okay enough of this

guilt i' I've felt enough of it I don't

like feeling that way I could actually

break the conditioning of that emotion

in my body can I condition my body can I

teach my body to feel something

differently what would be the feeling

that I want to feel if I was able to do

it would it be worth would it be

self-love would it be Freedom would it

be Joy let me teach my body emotionally

what a future could actually feel like

before it happens if you keep doing it

over and over again you're going to

start making more of those chemicals and

it's become easier for you to do it it's

going to become familiar to you and

that's exactly what meditation is to

become familiar with an old self to know

thyself become so conscious of that

unconscious self that you don't go

unconscious to that self and how many

times do we have to forget until we stop

forgetting and start remembering that's

the moment of change what thoughts do I

want to find fire and wire in my brain

let me become familiar with those what

behaviors do I want to demonstrate what

would greatness do what would love do

and actually rehearse a greater a

greater way rehearse it enough times so

that you could actually step into that

footprint teach your body emotionally

that there's another way to feel and do

it over and over again it'll become

familiar to you and so the model of

change is unlearning and relearning it's

breaking the habit of the old self and

Reinventing a new self it's pruning

synaptic connections and sprouting new

connection C it's uniring and unwiring

reiring and rewiring deprogramming and

reprogramming losing your mind and

creating a new one

unmoral changes if they immerse

themselves into the experience and what

do those biological changes look

like well um so we run week-long events

um around the world and I think it's so

important to do events uh in person with

Community uh because it's a flock it's a

herd it's a school um it's a

collective and so uh that exact process

in seven days uh we uh take people

through a very immersive experience and

we do functional brain scans or fmis or

quantitative eegs before they start the

event and then we at the end of seven

days we look at their brains at the end

of seven days and there are dramatic

changes in the way their brain works

very significant changes some of them

are really outstanding changes we uh put

uh teach people how to create more heart

coherence when you feel anger when you

feel frustration when you feel

impatience when you feel resentment your

heart beats out of order when you feel

gratitude when you have kindness and

Care You Feel Love For Life your heart

beats in a more orderly fashion you can

actually train somebody to get good at

feeling that way and we we use that and

we see people at the end of seven days

be able to regulate uh their heart much

better and it's a function of really how

soon or how slow we

age we take blood and we measure

2,882 different metabolites in in a

person's blood and at the end of s days

we measure again and I can tell you that

if you're a novice

meditator really never meditated before

kind of your first event uh and you go

through that 7-Day process at the end of

seven days there are so many biological

changes that are taking place in the

collective in the community not just one

not just two the majority of people and

I mean a significant majority of people

suggesting that their body literally is

living in a new environment in in a new

life and there are chemicals in their

bloodstream in terms of

information that wasn't there prior to

the event in other words

some way without taking any drug without

any taking any exogenous

substance um without changing their diet

without changing their lifestyle in any

other way except going through this

process eating the same foods that they

typically eat that at the end of seven

days there's chemistry there's biology

that suggests that somehow their biology

is changing

significantly um we measure gene

expression uh I can tell you that you

can change your Gene expression in 7

Days uh we measure the microbiome and um

once again 7 days there are dramatic

changes in the microbiome uh and the

mind somehow is making uh significant

and effective changes in our in our body

so um our research is pretty outstanding

because um an 7-Day uh intervention uh

that's producing these effects uh

there's there's not a whole lot of drugs

that that are as effective

and we've discovered

that the nervous system makes a pharmacy

of chemicals right now that works better

than any drug that's what we've

discovered and it's all within

you I am a

fixer in my friendship groups and what I

mean by that is I'm someone who probably

over involves them themselves in trying

to help friends change stuff which gift

and a curse often times a curse but um I

often get because I love someone and

they're close to me and I want the best

for them when when I see that they are

experiencing a recurring pattern of

behavior or habit um that is causing

them unhappiness loneliness to miss the

goals they have in their life of

becoming a you know a husband or a wife

or a partner whatever it might be I have

a growing sense of um

frustration because and I and that

sometimes exerts it it's that sometimes

manifests itself as trying to you know

fix and help and give advice and change

them you must experience that in a

different way you're much smarter than

me you must experience that in a

different way when you meet people that

you can see having these recurring

patterns of behavior and when you see

that in them has there any has there any

ever been frustration on your part have

you ever been frustrated that change

hasn't happened in someone that you

loved God I you know I think it's I

think it's such a noble act to change

and I and I understand how hard it is to

change uh I understand that process

so I think the greatest thing that I

could ever do for someone is to show

them what change looks like it's so much

more profound than anything that I could

ever

say um and I would never offer my

opinion to them I would love them

unconditionally because I maybe see a

part of myself uh that I've changed and

I understand how hard it is to change or

or I understand that they'll they're

going to have their moment uh when

they're ready to change and so I think

it's I think it's really interesting

because what I've learned over the years

is that no new

information can enter the nervous system

that's not equal to the person's

emotional state you can give them the

answer the right answer to the problem

and they won't hear it because it's not

relevant equal to the emotion that

they're

experiencing what we've learned is a you

take people in just just say seven days

just cross the river of change go from

the old self to the new self immerse

yourself fully into it break free from

the chains of those emotions that keep

you anchored to the Past overcome those

habits and behaviors that keep you

programmed into a predictable future um

overcome um all those aspects of your

beliefs that keep you stuck in a certain

state in terms of how you're thinking in

those hardwired perceptions 7even days

break free and and normally the person

has the answer uh to their own question

I think that's when it becomes really

relevant when you have your own Insight

your own Epiphany when it's your own

truth because you've you've worked to

get Beyond it people when they analyze

themselves or analyze their life within

some disturbing emotion when we looked

at the real time brain scans we saw that

they were actually making their brain

worse they were driving their brain

further out of balance overthinking

overanalyzing uh and

so when you analyze something within an

emotion and emotion is a is a record of

the past so you're thinking in the past

the solution could never be there free

the person from that emotion and of

course they they see they they see it

from a greater level of

Consciousness for all those people

listening right now that are like me

that try and

fix because through I mean through what

they think of as love may maybe be I'm

doing it for other reasons

but what what could they do to be a

better ally or friend or partner to that

individual B based on everything you've

said that maybe they need their own

moment or you know their emotional

system isn't in regulation with their

information God anytime we want to do

anybody a great service is to help them

out of their emotional state I mean it's

not a lecture that's going to help them

come on let's go do something come on

let's go just get them doing something

just breaking themselves out of that

state it's not like the answer it's that

you they have to change their state to

get the answer so if I were to do

anything

I would want to help them shorten their

emotional reaction to get them get

beyond the emotion whatever that is and

I wouldn't be a lecture it would be

something fun that we did or something

unusual that we did or just trying

something just let's just do

something and I think I think showing

people what what what love looks like

show them what Joy looks like show them

what happiness looks like I think I

think people notice that I think I think

they pay attention to that it gives them

permission uh to do the

same so

um maybe just show up as um the person

you would want to be around if you were

feeling that

way when you look at the state of the

world at the moment and the direction of

travel the trajectory of you know

technology and the way we're living our

lives and the decisions we're making at

a collective level what are the things

that most concern

you well I always ask myself is it

getting better or is it getting worse

you know and I I think um

in my lifetime I don't think I've ever

experienced the world as it is today

just with so many variations of so many

things uh and I question the information

uh that I'm

receiving uh and I think that we need

some type of intervention uh as a

species we need we we need a change uh

uh we need an intervention in some

way you question the information you're

receiving from where and what kind of in

intervention are you suggesting I just

don't know that the information that I

that I am exposed to or information that

people are exposed to is the truth I

just question that these days and and

there because you can you get so many

you can get so many degrees of it and so

many uh and I and I don't know if it's

uh based in altruism you know for the

for the goodness of human beings or or

for self-interests and I and I think

that's a I think people are waking up

more to the understanding that something

has to change you know for us to really

survive as a species and what are the

symptoms

of the cultural disease that you're

talking about what are they a lack of

connection uh you know you know we're in

3D reality you know connecting communing

cooperating uh uh uh creating I think

those are things that um I think if you

keep people in in survival and you keep

them in fear and you keep them at War

and you keep them angry and you keep

them in pain and you keep them confused

and you can control their attention um

by controlling their

emotions um I think I think um we're

going to you know we may not make it you

know as as a species but I think that

when people Truly Come Together in in in

an elevated State I think it's

Collective networks of observers that

determine reality and I don't think it's

the number of people I think it's the

most coherent uh in heart and brain that

begin to produce effects so the coming

of a new Consciousness um has to be a

collective it's not one person it's a

collective uh group of people and and I

believe that you get enough people

collectively coming together that we can

hopefully uh steer it in a different

direction hopefully yeah how about you

are you optimistic I am I'm optimistic

because I think people by

Nature are good I think there's goodness

in human beings and I have the privilege

of traveling around the world and I see

that and it transcends countries and

cultures and races and gender it

transcends diet it transcends all that

stuff uh it's just when people are happy

with themselves and in love with life um

I think I think they're natur natural

tendency is to give and I think we're

wired to do that when we're not in

survival when we're not in survival when

you use this word survival are you

talking about the the fight or flight

state that we um many of us live in yeah

the an say I would say that living in

stress is living in survival and stress

is when your brain and body are knocked

out of

homeostasis stress is when your brain

and body are knocked out of balance the

stress response is what the body

innately does to return itself back to

balance

the problem is is that if you keep

turning on that fight ORF flight system

you keep turning on that emergency

system um you'll actually cause people

to stay out of balance and that

inbalance becomes the new balance and

they're headed for some type of disease

some type of breakdown no organism can

tolerate emergency mode for an extended

period of time and when you're in

survival and that primitive system is

switched on it's really about the self

uh when you're in survival you have to

take care of yourself so um the emotions

of anger and hostility and aggression

and competition and frustration and

resentment and envy and jealousy and

insecurity and fear and anxiety and

hopelessness and powerlessness and

depression and pain and suffering guilt

and shame are all derived from the

hormones of stress and psychology calls

them normal human States Of

Consciousness those are Altered States

Of Consciousness and when we're in that

state when we're living in

survival we experience separation we we

divide in

in in a lot of ways and so there's

biology that goes along with that and um

the hormones of stress heighten the

senses and cause us to become

materialists and and now when we're in

lack or separation we force outcomes we

control outcomes we fight for outcomes

we compete for outcomes we manipulate

outcomes in a lot of ways we we turn

into more of a primitive self

so hard um to change that especially

when you don't have enough money or you

just lost your job or you just ended a

relationship

or your best friend past uh it's really

hard um to move Beyond those emotional

states um and so I think that that

teaching people um how to change those

emotional states and move out of those

are really important and um 75 to 90% of

every person that goes to a health care

facility in the Western World goes in

because because of psychological or

emotional stress that's eight or nine

out of 10 and and emotional stress and

psychological stress are the ones that

tend to be the most harmful because if

it's not T-Rex that's chasing you but

it's your coworker in the next cubicle

what was once very adaptive becomes very

maladaptive and and the rush of those

adrenal

hormones become kind of addictive to

people and they use the problems they

use the conditions in their life to

reaffirm their addiction to that emotion

they need their enemy to feel hatred and

and if their enemy died they they'd

still feel hatred or they'd find another

one uh they need the bad relationship

they need the be bad job in order to

feel and that's why it's hard to change

and people become addicted to the life

they don't even

like and so if you can turn on the

stress response just by thought Alone by

thinking about your problems and that's

the truth you can become addicted to

your own thoughts and if the long-term

effects of the hormones of stress push

the genetic buttons that create disease

your thoughts can make you sick then the

question is if your thoughts could make

you sick and your thoughts make you well

and we're actually discovering that

that's absolutely possible so then

teaching people then a little bit about

how to manage their emotional state and

self-regulate I think is a great gift

for people because when they begin to

break an addiction to any emotion or the

conditioning of any emotion there's

going to be Cravings that go on just

like uh just like any atct there you

know and and you've many people overdose

and many people have bad trips and and

so when they start changing and the

body's craving uh those familiar

emotions the body starts signaling the

brain you know of memories or to think

certain ways and to make certain choices

do certain things crave certain

experiences just to feel of that same

emotion and people say well this feels

right no that feels familiar that really

feels familiar and and many people will

tell the story of why they feel that way

based on some past experience and it's

usually not in the recent past it's

usually many years ago like a toxic

relationship or something whatever that

is and

so they're basically saying I had an

event in my life and since that event

I'm still living by the same emotion and

I haven't been able to change and

they'll tell the story of that past and

in Psychology the latest research on

memory shows that 50% of that story

isn't even the

truth they're they're they're making it

up because they don't have the same

brain as they had then and so then

people people are reliving a miserable

life they never even had just to excuse

themselves from changing they embellish

the story so that it sounds really hard

to change so what is it what is that

point then for a person when they say

the only

person that that this emotion of hatred

or anger or frustration or resentment

the only person that this is hurting is

me because those those chemicals are

downregulating genes and creating

disease and a person finally really

realizes that and they really decide to

change when they overcome the emotion

the memory without the emotion is called

wisdom and that's the name of the game

and three-dimensional reality now

they're ready for a new experience it's

not it's not reliving the past you don't

need to you don't need to talk about it

all you need to do is overcome the

emotion when you overcome the emotion

you're free from the past you can see it

from a greater level of Consciousness

and that's when a person so many times

when they truly change they'll say this

we've seen it over and over again they

reach that point where they finally

break through and they and some of them

have had some really difficult pasts

they'll say I would not want to change

one thing in my past because it brought

me to this moment that's the moment the

past no longer exists and they can look

at their

betrayers and see it what all had to

happen for that moment and now they're

they're free they they no longer belong

to the past they belong to the Future

I've never heard the concept or idea of

being addicted to a negative emotion

people talk to me about being addicted

to dopamine and pleasure and you know

and all those things and you know like

masturbation and sugar and but the

thought of being addicted to a negative

emotion it's what you said to me earlier

about the guilt well well think about

this

what do people do when they when they

feel an emotion what do they do they

rely on something outside of them to

make that emotion go away so whether

it's the masturbation or the pornography

or the gambling or the shopping or the

sugar or the whatever it's all because

they're trying to make that feeling go

away and they're using something outside

of them so then there is some emotion

that the person is regulating that's why

they're doing that that they're doing

that right so so change the emotional

state and it makes sense then the need

to do it

diminishes which is not doesn't seem to

be very easy to do change my emotional

state well again I think

um if you if you

understood what you were doing and why

you were doing it just like learning

anything if you if you understood a

formula I think it wouldn't be as hard

as you think it is I mean because there

is a way to

change and step one in that process of

change is new information always it's

the Forerunner to any

experience without the information we

doubt that it's

possible and that again that the

information and the science removes the

doubt I've I was doing some research

recently about um why people change

their beliefs and why they don't change

their beliefs and some beliefs they're

more susceptible to take on some

information they're more susceptible to

take on one of the things I read about

was when they believe the source another

thing I read about was when they when

it's good news so in studies where they

say to someone you're more attractive

according to the public than you believe

they're likely to shift rather than

finding out they're less attractive and

also things like Health you're more

healthy than you thought you were

genetically they're more likely to shift

a belief the nature of our beliefs and

the nature of belief change um I I was

writing in in in my book about how um

looking in the mirror and telling

yourself something like some of the sort

of modern day manifestation Community

belief doesn't seem to work just looking

in the mirror and telling myself that

I'm beautiful and Rich and successful

and Powerful doesn't seem to be an

effective way to cause actual belief

change do you agree or disagree with

this idea that you can look in the

mirror and say something to

yourself when when we study belief and

the change in belief

uh I want I'll answer it on two levels

Stephen the first level is that in order

for a person to change a belief or

perception about themselves and their

life the majority of those people made a

decision with such firm intention that

the amplitude of that decision carried a

level of energy that was greater than

the hardwired programs in their brain

and the emotional conditioning their

body as I said earlier their body

literally responded to their mind the

choice that they were making

became a moment in time they would never

forget they'll tell you where they were

what time of day it was who they were

with when they made up their mind to

change it became a long-term memory and

the stronger the emotion we feel the

more altered we are inside of us the

more we remember that choice that's why

we need pain sometimes that's when you

said when you painted yourself into a

corner and you said this is it I don't

care how I feel

body I don't care how long it takes time

I don't care what people think I don't

care what's going on on my life

environment I'm going to do this and you

made up your mind the moment you felt

that emotion you were aligning to a new

future and to change is to be greater

than your body to be greater than your

environment and to be greater than time

and so when a person comes out of the

resting state because your body is

trillions of cells 70 trillion cells and

they're all spying on your brain and if

you were sitting there and and you said

nine out of 10 times I'm going to fake

standing up one time I'm actually going

to stand up before you ever made that

conscious decision your body is so

precognitive it already knows when

you're going to stand up because it's

got to release a certain amount of

adrenaline so the same volume of your

blood goes to your brain so if you're

sitting on the couch with a remote

control and you got your cell phone here

and your iPad here and your computer

here and your dog here and your beer

here and the big TV there and you're

eating your popcorn and and you say you

know I I think

um I'm going to change tomorrow you what

do you think your precognitive body is

going to say relax he's lying again he's

not he's not willing to he's not willing

to Signal the body it's time to ride you

know it's not there's no signal to the

body and so making that choice to change

your state of being with a clear

intention and elevated emotion actually

changes your state to believe in that

future more than you believe in your

past keep it up keep keep doing it

that's a big explosion in the field

that's important that's a change in

energy and nobody changes until they

change their energy and when they change

their energy they change their life so

then you make up your mind to do that

and all of a sudden you have that

synchronicity you have that Serendipity

you have that coincidence and all of a

sudden you're saying hey that worked

something I did inside of me produced an

effect outside of me I'm going to pay

attention to what I did I'm going to do

it again let's try it again let's the

experiment continue you do it again and

then you say Well when did I stop

disbelieving oh my God stopped

disbelieving when I ran into that person

we had that conversation and oh my God I

I returned back to my old belief again

okay next time that happens I'm going to

this is what I'll do you rehearse it in

so your

evolution in your belief and self

changes as well so then so many people

second point will actually say this you

know I read the philosophy I understand

the knowledge I understand what it means

to change I understand the power of

meditation I saw the testimonial I saw

people heal I believe it's the truth I

just didn't believe it could work for me

this is a big moment this is a moment

where you step out of the bleachers and

you got to get on the playing field

that's the person who says if this works

and I believe it works I got to prove it

to myself I got to actually I got to

actually prove it to myself that I

believe that it could work for

me and some of them show up every day

for a year and never miss their work

never miss their meditation a whole year

and changing from the old self to the

new self they were doing their

meditations to change not to heal they

were doing their meditations to change

and when they changed they healed they

did their meditation sometimes three

times a day because they stopped

believing they stopped disbelieving and

they were like I defaulted why because

I'm feeling the emotion of my past some

stray thought some response to someone

or something caused me to feel that I

forgot I'm back to the emotion that's

familiar and I can't believe in that

future I'm believing in my past let me

sit down and change my state of being

again and get up believing in my future

again and sometimes they had to do it

three times in one day and when they

understood that's the environment that

signals the gene that's

epigenetics and the end product of an

experience in the environment is an

emotion and it is you could actually

signal genes ahead of the environment by

changing your emotional state they were

doing it with that intention and when

you assign meaning to the ACT you get a

greater outcome and you turn on the

prefrontal cortex and now your biology

literally begins to change and we have

data that suggests by just having the

intention to make certain genes to make

certain proteins or signal certain genes

and make certain proteins just having

the intention literally begins to cause

the body to make those

chemicals and what causes relapse in

those moments because I've had multiple

moments of where I thought Behavior

change had been established and I

managed to conduct a new habit cycle in

new Behavior favorable in you know

intended behavior for a period and then

something happens in my life almost

subconsciously seamlessly seamlessly and

I'm back yeah to old the old circuitry

you went unconscious you went

unconscious and normally it's some

unconscious to some thought or some

response in your environment you see

someone or you do something or you have

some interaction in your outer world and

the moment you have that interaction you

C it causes you to feel a certain way

and you return back to a to the Past

basically the emotion is the past and

that the body is actually living in the

past it's so objective it doesn't know

the

difference it doesn't know the

difference between the real life

experience that's creating that emotion

and the emotion that person is living by

every day it's believing it's in the

same past experience again and it will

behave in the past and it will think in

the past subconsciously subconsciously

seamlessly so I could for for for

example if going to I don't know let's

say France I had a traumatic experience

in France when I was 10 years old let's

just say and then I go to France when

I'm 30 years old and I get back I just

start eating junk food for example and I

don't know why I've like fallen out of

my gym habit and I'm eating junk food

that that theoretically that could be my

subconscious that um falling back into a

experiencing that survival without me

knowing knowing it yes so so if to

change is to be greater than your

environment to be greater than your body

and to be greater than time then your

neocortex your thinking brain is a

reflection of everything you know in

your life it's an artifact of the past

it's a record repository of everything

you've learned and experienced to this

date and you have a neurological Network

for everything known in your environment

your parents your friends your car your

computer every object every person

everything you have a neurological

Network for your identity as your body

from your past your Ambitions in your

future your brain is a reflection of

everything that's known and because

you've experienced all these elements in

your environment there's an emotion

associated with it so you have an

emotion associated with certain people

different emotions associated with other

people different emotions associated

with other objects and things and other

places in time so

then there's so much research to show

that when you put a person in the same

environment and they see the same people

and they go to the same places and they

do the same things at their exact same

time it's no longer their personalities

creating their personal reality their

personal reality is creating their

personality their environment is

controlling unconsciously or

subconsciously the way they're thinking

and the way they're feeling so when they

see their co-worker when they see their

friend when they see their parents

they're seeing their parents their

friends their co-workers in the

neurological Network as a memory of the

past and because every one of those

people has an emotion associated with it

they start feeling the emotion that's

connected to them and now their state of

being then is returning back to the past

so then to change then is to be

greater than your environment to think

act and feel differently in the same

conditions in your life that's called

change and how does how would I do that

wake from you know I walk in I see my

parents Mom Dad dog house where I grew

up in is there something that I do in

that moment before that moment moment

when I woke up that morning to make sure

that I didn't slip off into the

unconscious um memory and then for

therefore get the sort of unconscious

feelings about that experience well

whatever it is that you want if it's if

it's overeating I don't know I'm making

stuff up if it's some emotional button

that you have with your family and and

you don't want to feel that way yeah I

would rehearse that if I if I didn't

want to have that if if you have a great

if you're I mean I go when I go to my

parents home when I when I got older it

was all most of the associations were so

fond for me just being at home and being

with my parents and remembering where I

grew up it was always fun for me and and

coming back and see how much I changed

in coming back and seeing the the life

that I lived at one point you know one

point in in my timeline so if it's

something that you truly want to change

you're going to remind

yourself how you're not going to think

you're going to you're going to remind

yourself how you're not going to act

you're going to remind yourself how

you're not going to feel and you got to

remind yourself enough time so you don't

forget because the moment you forget you

go unconscious then you're going to

remind yourself how you are going to

think you're going to remind yourself

what you're going to do and rehearse it

in your mind and you're going to remind

yourself what feeling you want to stay

in the entire time so you don't default

back to the old self if you practice

that I guarantee you'll make some

progress if you lose it nothing wrong

tomorrow's another day you got another

chance and we just get really good at

whatever we practice so then when you

return back into your life and you say

okay no person no place no thing No

Object no circumstance no pain no

craving is going to cause me to move

from this state today I guarantee you if

you're able to maintain that modified

State of Mind and Body your entire day

something unusual happen and will come

in a way that you least expect that

surprises you and leaves no doubt that

what you're doing inside of you is

producing some effect outside of you and

the moment you see the feedback in your

environment as a result of your internal

change you're going to pay attention and

do it again and you're going to start

believing got it did I really create

that did that really happen because of

how I changed that's when the game

really begins to become exciting

practice practice I've been at it a long

time I can tell practice yeah um people

hear that they go Joe how long how much

practice you know are you talking about

uh I've got to I've got to do this for

three four five years or you know and

and that practice what does that look

like

practically for someone like me who

hears everything you've just said and

wants to make changes and kers of my

life okay

so there's two times when the door to

the subconscious mind opens up when you

wake up in the morning because your

brain waves are going from Delta to

Theta to Alpha to Beta when you go to

bed at night you go from beta to Alpha

Theta to Delta and you slip through that

scale pretty quickly in the morning in

the evening but your brain waves start

to change during those times and and one

of the features one of the important

elements of meditation is to get beyond

the analytical mind and what separates

the conscious mind from the subconscious

mind is the analytical mind so 5% as we

said is our conscious mind 95% is

programmed subconsciously and if you're

going to try to change yourself with

your conscious mind you're outside the

operating system so then you got to

learn how to change your brain waves

slow them down get beyond the analytical

mind and enter the operating system

where you can rewrite a program where

you can make those changes and

so learn how to do that practice learn

how to do that and again it's not a big

deal it's easy to learn and then once

you can slow your brain waves down and

you're more suggestible to what you're

thinking now you can reprogram you can't

do it with your conscious mind you can

say I'm healthy I'm healthy I'm wealthy

I'm wealthy I'm Unlimited I'm unlimited

I'm happy I'm happy I'm whole unho and

your body saying no you're not dude

you're miserable you're unhappy that

thought never makes it past the brain

stem to reach the body right

so it's important for us to in the

morning or the evening instead of

reaching for our cell phone as the first

thing as a habit that we do and checking

our texts and our WhatsApp and our

Telegram and our social media and our

Instagram and our Twitter and and

Facebook whatever else people do their

emails they get connected to everything

known in their life before you start

that try this out as an experiment

before you start your day instead of

falling into that redundant habit you

know go on autopilot just say okay if

the change is to be greater than my body

to be greater than my environment be

greater than time and and the

environment's so seductive and my body's

craving certain emotions and it's

programmed to get up and do things I'm

going to sit my body down I'm going to

tame the animal here and when I'm ready

to get up we're going to get up not when

it's tired or when it wants to

go if you could literally go Inward and

forget about your outer world no longer

think about anything out there if you

could lose track of the familiar past or

the predictable future and fall into the

present moment and if you were sitting

there in silence aware of nothing but

you and you said okay what is the

greatest expression of myself I can be

today and do that exact process let me

write down two thoughts that are not

going to slip by my awareness unnoticed

by me today two memories whatever it is

what are two behaviors I want to change

today let me stay conscious of them and

not go unconscious to them today even if

it means how I

speak what are two emotions that I live

by every day that I can literally change

I want to become conscious of what they

feel like in my body I want to catch

them the moment I start feeling them let

me review them over and over again

enough times so I don't go unconscious

okay now I'm conscious of my unconscious

that 95% how do I want to think how

would greatness think today let me

review it let me repeat it let me

remember how I am going to think let me

remember how I am going to think let me

remember how I'm going to behave here

when how am I going to act here let me

rehearse a change I want to make in the

certain circumstance let me think about

how I do want to feel today let me open

my heart to life again let me feel

kindness and care and love gratitude and

appreciation let me let me just bring up

that feeling let me feel it with my

heart let me keep bringing it up so I

can bring it up enough times I want to

get so good at bringing up this feeling

with my eyes closed I can do it with my

eyes

open you practice that and you not make

a decision to not get up until you feel

that

emotion and ask yourself can I stay in

the state my entire day and if you can't

and you go unconscious ask yourself at

the end of the day how'd I do where' I

go unconscious okay okay tomorrow

morning new day new lifetime let me go

again let me try again and it's the

practice it's the repetition that causes

the change now here's the beauty behind

this because all of a sudden when those

synchronicities start to happen when the

coincidences start to happen it's no

longer a have to it's no longer oh geez

I got to go create my life it's not like

that it's like the magic is happening

you don't want it to end like you you

you realize that you are actually

creating outcomes in your life and now

you're not you're you're you're you're

wanting to do the work because you want

the magic to continue in your life and

that's kind of what I'm super proud of

with our community we're doers you know

we they do the work not because they

have to because they love all the

changes that happen in their life as a

result of it whether it's a mystical

experience a transcendental moment you

know a great opportunity in their life

they're like wow I I I somehow had a

hand in creating this and so the so the

excitement of Life The Adventure of Life

the unknown becomes the becomes the

quest I'm so so I got to admit I'm one

of those people that wakes up in the

morning and then just gets dragged

dragged off out of the bed by my phone

and notifications and off into my day

totally

unconscious and there's been so many

things that I reflect on in my life and

go man I just really want to I'll get

home at the end of the day and I'll look

at certain instances where I responded

in certain ways and go man I hate that

about myself and I really want to change

that

and it happens again the next day and I

come home and I think man I hate that

about myself and I really want to change

that and it happens the next day and

it's been happening for two

years when do you want to change

that when you're ready to change that

you will when you're when it's becomes

boring and it becomes predictable I

don't want to have to wait for a crisis

you know cuz well now that you know you

can't not know yeah I know yeah now that

you know you can't not know and on some

level you may have a belief that you

think this is hard yeah I do yeah yeah

because I've struggled with it yeah yeah

and it's just like uh what you going

learning snowboarding and never taking a

lesson right it's going to be like it's

going to be tenuous it's going to be

challenging it's going to be difficult

put your time in learn how to do it and

it gets easier as you do it it's just

like you just just have to learn the

formula there's a formula that we've

discovered that

it's it's actually enjoyable when you do

it right and you actually like it and

people want to do more of it because it

feels so good and I mean we see you look

at the the HRV measurements with our

community look at our brain scans these

are people that they're not faking

ecstasy they're not Faking It their

brain is at such a a level of arousal

and the arousal is not pain the arousal

is not fear the arousal is not

aggression or anger the arousal is

ecstasy the brain is going going in this

heightened state they're making a

connection to something really big and

that feels really good and when they

realize that they've hit something

really big and it's not coming from

anyone or anything outside of them they

stop looking for it out there and they

realize it's been within them the whole

time I think I think so many people want

so many things in their life but what we

really want is wholeness because when

you have wholeness you can't want how

could you want when you're whole you

only want when you're in lack when

there's brain and heart coherence

um there's a level of wholeness that

takes place where a person is no longer

interested in separation or lack they

feel like they have everything they want

that's a great place to be in and we've

discovered that the more relaxed you are

in your heart the more awake you are in

your brain it's relaxed in the heart and

awake in the brain and we teach that

people actually can get good at doing

that I really want to talk to you about

this brain coherence and this heart

coherence um I have to close off on that

morning routine thing by asking you

exactly what did you do this morning oo

this

morning uh I was up probably around uh

4:30 yeah why because there's nobody

that can bother me at that time there's

no emails there's no texts there's

there's no there's my it's my time what

time were you in

bed um probably between 10 and 11: okay

is that not enough sleep for you huh

well no that is I think I I actually

measure my sleep so I and I look at it

every day that's part of the reason I'm

dragged out of bed but yeah for me 4 in

the morning 5 in the morning is a really

great time I just I I've just

conditioned my body that way um that's

the time and and I I spend a little time

uh remembering what I'm doing what am I

doing what are you doing in this

meditation why are you doing this

meditation what are you about to do I

like to just get myself in my think box

organizing what am I not going to think

about what am I going to stay away from

what am I not going to do in my

meditation me review that what am what

am I going to do when I get that all

worked out then I get in my playbox in

my playbox there's no thinking I've got

all the thinking done in my think box my

play box it's really about me changing

my state and so um I allow for two hours

every morning doesn't mean I always take

it or need it let me say that but I

allow for two hours sometimes I like to

just get my mind straight and then uh I

do the work I do the work and and uh I

like to get to that point where when I'm

done I feel like something changed do

the work yeah what does the work look

like it's meditation yeah it's finding

the present moment it's getting into the

unknown it's getting Beyond Myself

disconnecting from my body getting

Beyond any thought of anyone or anything

getting Beyond Time moving beyond space

and time

turns out when you focus on nothing

there are so many amazing things that

happen to your brain I've seen this

scans over and over

again what have you seen in the

scans well there's this thing in the

brain called

modularity and when we're living uh by

the hormones of stress and stress is

when you can't predict something when

you can't control something or you have

the perception that something's going to

get worse you switch on that fight ORF

flight nervous system and the rush of

those chemical

causes us to become alert to become

aroused and we narrow our focus on the

material world and so when you're not

able to control everything in your life

and you can't predict everything in your

life you start shifting your attention

to everyone and everything every person

every object every place we've all had

that experience when we're under stress

and every one of those people those

objects those things those places has a

neurological Network in the brain so

like a lightning storm in the clouds the

brain begins to fire out of order very

incoherent ently it becomes modulated or

compartmentalized It's A house divided

against itself and those individual

compartments don't talk to the rest of

the brain and we tend to get overfocused

you never notice when you're under

stress you're obsessing about something

you're over focusing about something

you're overthinking something you're

overanalyzing you're driving your brain

higher and higher into higher states of

arousal High beta brain wave

patterns we discovered that if you teach

a person to go from a narrow focus on

something physical something material

and broaden their focus open their

awareness and put their attention on

space on nothing and create what's

called a Divergent Focus the act of

sensing and no longer analyzing thinking

begins to slow the brain waves down from

that beta brain wave state to a

low-level beta and then all of a sudden

to Alpha if they keep doing it sensing

space tends to cause those different

compartments that were modulated or

divided to begin to synchronize

and what sinks in the brain actually

links in the brain so the brain starts

firing in a more holistic state in other

words every single area of the brain is

resonating at the same frequency and now

the brain is functioning as one

neurological network instead of

individuals that kind of holism that

kind of order feels really good it feels

really good and so people practice

slowing their brain waves down not only

to get beyond the analytical mind but to

cause the brain to fire in a more

coherent way and if we're going to have

a clear intention about what we want the

more coherent the brain the clearer the

intention so we've seen in seven days

even in four days these dramatic changes

in the levels of coherence and order

that take place in the brain the brain's

firing in a more holistic State that's

when the person notices a change in

their anxiety and the depression and

there PS PTSD whatever it is there's

more order in the brain and and uh the

ACT to focusing on nothing and opening

your awareness to space creates that

kind of amazing change did you set an

intention this morning I

did can you tell me what it is

oo um I want to be relaxed and awake I

want to be present with everything that

I do um I want to stay in my heart the

entire day and um I want to be inspired

by you know the idea of helping people

change do you struggle I do yeah what

you struggle with well now um I run a

lot of

different aspects of my company I have

events side uh we have a product side we

have corporate Consulting we have 250

corporate trainers uh we have a vitamin

uh company uh called biospy we work with

remote coherence healers that actually

are we do research and they're remotely

changing People's Health we have a huge

research team with University of

California s Diego uh we have a lot of

players on the team we have um uh

nonprofits uh what else do we have um we

have an inner Health Coalition for

Physicians and and doctors and

Healthcare practitioners around the

world that want to teach a different

model so I have a lot of different

things that I have my hand in um and I

think uh you know I'm creative by nature

and I like to be creative and sometimes

I have a lot of obligations in terms of

making making decisions for

2026 uh decisions about things that I

need to do uh documentaries whatever it

is uh and I think I struggle with not

having wanting more time for being

creative and that's kind of the fun part

of my job whether I look at the data I

see the research and then I go oh my God

I want to do a meditation now I

understand how to do this meditation or

teach this

better all the information that we're

gathering in our research is to teach

transformation better that's why I went

close the gap between knowledge and

experience so it's we have billions of

data points and it's a a lot of time uh

to look through all that and to learn

about it uh but if I would if I would

choose to do something I would love to

study the research more love to uh do

more me Teach um um uh create more

meditations you know teach some more

unique courses uh and so I I think I I

think one of my challenges really is to

is to be able to stay creative uh with

everything I have going on in my life I

think everyone that's a high achiever

always wishes they could pause time I

think um we're we're at such a level of

growth right now to just uh uh

globally I mean our events sell out in

10 minutes you know 5 10 minutes and and

we have a waiting list of uh sometimes

10,000 people that's a problem you know

that's a and and I won't give up doing

um Live Events you know and I think it's

I won't do it online I think it's

there's something special that happens

uh in community and so I've never met

someone who is so Mission driven and

doing so well in this department that

also isn't paying a personal cost for

the mission in some regard or capacity

well I think I've learned a few things

over the years about

that and I think one of the great things

number one is I have an amazing team I

mean I nothing without my team uh and

they're creatives and they're cool and

they're emotionally intelligent and they

they're not nineo FS they share the same

Mission with me they they see the same

vision they they do it for the same

reason somehow they're part of that that

change and

transformation um so my team um uh is

able to allow me to do something really

really unique and that is to focus on

focus on what I love to do more than

anything else so uh my team is super

super huge help for me so I I I think

that it's an important element the other

thing that I work on I think every day

of my life is uh to be the example of

everything that I teach I I mean that's

important for me because uh uh I want to

be I want to be in the game with

everybody so when I see transformation

when I see Miracles when I see healings

when I see change when I see poor people

become rich whatever that

is and I'm a part of that I think it's

really it humbles me it really makes me

more humble in seeing what's possible

for human beings and and so I never want

this work to be about me I want it to be

about you I want it to be I want to

celebrate your story uh you know I I

want I want to I want to be there for

that person when they open their eyes

and were blind and they're seeing for

the first time I want to be right there

I want to be there I want to remember

that moment uh and and and her

Joy um

so for me I I work on on being the

example uh in every way that I can and

and and it sometimes it requires um a

lot you know extra time to do that

yeah what is what is the what is the um

and this is an interesting use of phrase

because I'm saying the word cost is as

as as if it's a negative but I just I

think everyone that's leading a mission

whatever that might be and really

dedicated to that mission in the way

that you are flying around the world

continuing to do it in person where most

people you know everyone knows you could

just do it online and you'd probably

make more money to be honest you know

there's people that just have moved

online post pandemic you're you're

giving a level of dedication and

personal investment into this mission

that must well I assume it must come at

a personal cost to some

degree um you make sacrifices um you

have to sacrifice uh relationships at

time you know sometimes you can't be

where you want to be um but I think that

the people in my life that love me

understand my mission uh and and they

respect that uh sometimes I'm on six

different time zones in four weeks and

and that's a lot for my body you know

but um God watching somebody on the

stage just the other day tell the story

of how she overcame trifacial neuralgia

in One Moment In the Event she wanted

someone to chop her head off that's how

much pain she had had in her face for

years one moment she said I have no pain

I was the first time I've not had pain

in

years uh to me like that's worth all the

lost luggage the misf flights the uh the

jet lag that to me is worth more than

all the gold in the world I mean I don't

know it's just so it's so uncommon and

yet something innate in US wakes up

something wakes up in us uh when we see

that we we we forgot we forgot and

somehow remember

so um you ask my staff what is the

greatest part of their job they'll tell

you being a part of transformation being

a part of it being a part of that so

there is a cost um always uh uh and at

the same time I really I really work on

uh figuring out ways to do things better

I mean uh I think that's one of the

things I love about myself is just

learning learning from my experience

learning from my past and I think

experience is the Great greatest

professor and and just saying okay if I

had another opportunity how could we do

it differently how could we serve better

you know how can we make it easier what

can we do differently and and again I

just have a great team that's super

committed to whether they're running

events whether they're creating logos

whether they're doing a brand whether

they're managing the website whatever

they're you know running them composing

music with me for

meditations uh or doing research we just

have a really people that share that

same Mission and and I think

um changing individuals one by one to

somehow make a change in the world being

a part of that's pretty cool was there a

cous moment in your life that sent you

more so in this

direction um sure I I mean I got run

over by a truck in a triathlon in 1986

in Palm Springs California and um I

broke six vertebrae in my spine and I

had bone fragments on my spinal cord and

I had the neural arch of T8 uh pressing

on the cord so uh the typical uh

prognosis for that you know is is uh

Harrington Rod Surgery they they put

these long stainless steel rods in your

spine so in my case it would be from the

base of my neck to the base of my spine

stabilize the entire

spine and

um I just had four opinions from four of

the leading surgeons in Southern

California and I was in my 20s and I

just I just couldn't imagine myself

living

on you know addictive medications or not

being able to do whatever I love to do

physically so I decided not to have the

surgery I just went against the the

opinions of the experts and I just

thought maybe there's a way that my my

mind could heal my body and so um that

started my journey and somehow it worked

so I've been spending the rest of my

life studying that had that not happened

do you think you would have gone a in a

different direction sure

absolutely absolutely yeah

what if the worst thing that happened to

you was the best thing that happened to

you I don't

know and that starts this this you

create this belief in your mind that you

can heal yourself using your mind well

it was kind of crazy because um I think

when you're faced with crisis like I in

a situation like this we tend to focus

on the worst thing that could happen

instead of the best thing that could

happen and that's because of the

hormones of stress and emergency you

always prepare for the worst better

chances of survival if you think about

the worst so it took an enormous amount

of energy for me to stop that to stop

thinking that way and stop feeling that

way 6 and a half weeks of a Dark Night

of the soul I would say because I

couldn't get my brain to do what I

wanted it to do even though I

theoretically and understood it I just

kept defaulting and uh spent hours and

finally uh I was able to to kind of get

control over it and then soon as I

started noticing some changes in my body

that's when I that's when I just the

moment I started feeling my limbs again

and the moment I started noticing I was

moving a little

better I knew somehow I was having an

effect and that's that's the moment it

all changed for

me running all these businesses Joe and

you have such an Empire of businesses

and projects and people and teams all

over the world how have you managed your

relationship with technology because

technolog is on omnipresent in my life

yeah and that's why I say I get dragged

out of bed by it Stephen I never planned

on doing any of this

I never I never planned on doing any of

this I mean all the corporate stuff just

came out of a few lectures because there

were CEOs and presidents of companies

that urged me to create a model for

change for companies and organizations I

never wanted to do that I never wanted

to do interner Health Coalition with

doctors just our community there's an

emergent Consciousness that says please

do that you know so we're we're working

on uh in the same vein of the same

mission

giving people our community listening to

our community and creating you know more

of that for people I don't have I don't

have any difficulty if it's part of the

mission to do any of those things I

think it's uh I think it if I were just

doing my

events and and that's it and we could

just do that my life would be a whole

lot simpler but all these other things

that we're doing now in terms of they

they also bear a lot of fruit I mean the

research that we're doing right now is

is I can say right now Stephen that what

we're doing is no longer pseudo science

I can say that now it's no longer pseudo

science I can say that in seven days

your body can make a a pharmacy of

chemicals that work better than any drug

I can tell you that one intervention

called meditation can change a host of

different health conditions there's no

drug that does that so if I weigh those

all those different things that I have

to evolve uh in some way against the

effects it's producing it's always for

me worth the effort are you happy yeah

what does that mean um that I don't need

anyone or anything to make me

happy that's your definition of

happiness I think yeah I mean if you

have a kind of a freedom of expression

without any real limitation and you're

and you're comfortable with you and

you're and you love what you're doing

and you feel good about it and sure I

mean I'm always in the river of change

I'm always looking for blind spots I'm

always working on evolving who I am I

always want to be I always want to

evolve my experience I always want to

look to see if it serves me uh so um do

you have sad days I have I have days

where I'm

overwhelmed by just just everything and

what's what are the symptoms of that

overwhelm um it takes me a little bit to

focus my attention again just too many

things I have to think about so I have

to take a little time and get get uh

centered and organized but do I have sad

days I don't know sad I don't really

know sad but uh kind of a days where I'm

um kind of kind of

introspective uh without needing much

emotion yeah I I have those days yeah if

this were to be your last day on Earth

Joe wow

and there

was just a central message that the

millions of people you know that could

be listening right now you felt that

they needed to hear that would serve

them the best and serve us collectively

the

best what might that Central message

be it's important for people to believe

in themselves I think it's really

important for people to remember that

they're the creators on some level uh

and they have a hand in creating in

their life and that

uh possibility is something that they

should always keep their mind open to I

think that we're greater than we think

we're more powerful than we know more

unlimited than we could ever

dream do you realize how many people

you've

helped um gosh I don't know I don't know

maybe you must be moved by the feedback

you get because I was reading through

testimonials and messages and all the

top comments and stuff and it's really

really profound stuff you know and I

it's hard to imagine a world where that

that doesn't touch you know it it sit

with you for Better or For Worse you you

know people stop me a lot of times and

I'll be somewhere and they'll say hey I

I know you hear this a lot but um you

you really help me or you really changed

my life and I always say to them I never

I never get tired of of the story it's

the feedback for me that uh inspires me

to keep doing what I'm doing so I love

the stories I I love those I love to

hear them and it uh it challenges many

times my own belief about what's

possible so um yeah I think I I I'm I

love to celebrate that with people this

next chapter of your life is successful

if we sit here 10 years from now and you

say Steve that was an fantastic decade

for you what would have happened in that

decade for you to say that gosh um we

would publish a lot of papers that show

um how powerful people really are um we

would have our own research center where

we could do even further studies on

cancer on uh all different chronic

health conditions uh we were studying

the effects of healing on others and we

have really profound data on that as

well um I think that the conversation in

in healthcare and Medicine could change

on some level I mean the

conversations that I'm I'm having with

researchers and Physicians are not the

same conversations I was having just two

years ago especially when they look at

our data they they kind of fall out of

their chair I mean it's I mean as an

example a drug

study is about 25% causality one and

four responds and it's

usually you know 60 days 90 days a year

before you see a

change our data is between 75 and

85% causality that means eight out of 10

people are getting a response and

they're not taking anything no exogenous

substance in other

words their their nervous system is

producing a pharmacy of chemicals that

works better than any drug right so I

think the conversation around emotional

regulation and emotional health uh could

change that's something that I'm

interested

in I think meditation could be something

that is a a way of life for more people

to to be healthier and to be be happier

and to be more whole uh I mean when I

started this journey Steph you couldn't

even say meditation in public you

couldn't even couldn't say it in certain

organizations corporations government

agencies it was not allowed right now

it's sexy now it's cool right um

so

demystifying uh that process because

there's so many colloquialisms and

slangs and idioms that have to do with

meditation demystifying that process you

know we don't teach any traditional

meditation we don't teach anything

that's based on culture religion we we

teach meditation based on the data we

see based on the brain scans based on

the hrvs based on the data that we're

collecting we know the we know the words

now we know the music we know the timing

we know a lot of things uh in terms of

transformation that has helped us in so

many ways so what do you think is going

to become sexy in 10 years from now

that's not sexy now like meditation God

I hope it's not

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bring people together in 3D

and I saw this um as I was on your

website earlier on today I was looking

at some of your upcoming initiatives one

in particular was this walk that you're

doing which I found really really

interesting um this is the first ever

Global walk that will take place on

Saturday September the 23rd 20 um 23

this year um all the details are at walk

for the dot world so

www.walk for theworld and I was reading

about why you're doing this the words

Community came up the words illusion of

Separation came up yeah I think you know

if you study the peace Gathering

projects that have been done

peer-reviewed articles of Peace

Gathering projects when people come into

a community they meditate on peace City

the prime crime rates go down violence

goes down car crashes car accidents go

down economic growth goes up somehow

there's a change in the in the

collective but when the meditation ends

in the peace Gathering proc ends the

crime rate returns back to the same the

you know the the car accidents and the

violence return back to the same sealing

value as it was

before it's not enough to

just uh pray it's time to be the prayer

right so walking meditation we do in our

community and we do a lot of them

because you got to be able to walk as it

you got to be able to do it with your

eyes open doing it with your eyes closed

is a practice so you can do it with your

eyes open so you can demonstrate it

demonstrate peace demonstrate love

demonstrate um change for the world and

so uh the walking meditations there's

four types of meditations there's seated

meditation we do a lot of that and

that's traditional there's a standing

and walking meditation and there's a

lying down meditation we teach all of

those but the standing and walking

meditation is a great way to stand up

for the

world and decide if I change and have

enough of us change we could actually

change the world so meditation starts

with our eyes closed standing up with

our eyes closed and getting into an

altered

music changes we open our eyes and we

walk as that change we embody that

change we live that change we think

about what we're going to leave behind

for a new world what what what if I

change what would be could I am I part

of the whole could I affect the

whole and so a person walks for a period

of time they stop again they close their

eyes they recalibrate they get back in

that feeling they open their eyes and

they walk again and so walking

meditation is a great way for uh

thousands and thousands of people from

around the world

to walk for change in the world and and

and we have such compelling data about

Collective networks of observers with

brain and heart coherence that somehow

when you have a random event generator

in our in our ballrooms and people

change their state and they have an

intention that random events become less

random and more intentional in other

words a machine that's programmed to

toss a coin a thousand times a second

second multiple times a second the more

you toss a coin the more you're going to

get 50/50 right so if you if you have a

machine in the room and and nobody's in

the room you see just kind of this line

stay right around the 50/50 mark But

when you fill that room with people and

they change their state and they have an

intention all of a sudden you see that

line break way out of normal and a

program machine that's normally flipping

zeros and ones starts behaving very

differently it tells us that Collective

networks begin to determine reality and

it's not the number of people it's not

the amount of energy you got have

entropic energy it's the mo most

coherent group of people so if we come

together on one day and this will be one

of many

walks you leave everything

behind bring your family bring your

friends bring your co-workers bring your

neighbors you never have to have done a

meditation before we'll will'll guide

people through it uh we'll give them the

MP3 file and um we have just over 800 or

900 cities now from around the world uh

that are from people from around the

world that are participating and the

numbers are growing so we don't know

where it'll go but it's our first uh

attempt to just say if we just could

move the needle one degree and off that

trajectory off that timeline just in

another timeline then it served its

purpose so so um yeah we're excited

about it it's the first one and

hopefully we'll do uh some more I'll put

all the details below wherever you're

listening to this so you can check it

out is it I was wondering as you were

speaking Joe I was was asking myself

you're someone that's constantly doing

research and developing new ideas and

hypotheses about the world and the way

humans are and the way the universe is

do there exist beliefs in your head that

you're too scared to

share you mean beliefs that I have that

that are from

experience or beliefs that I have that

I'm that are conjectures either both

yeah I have a very strong belief that

that um the probability of us seeing the

truth and reality is zero I think that

we perceive less than 1% of reality the

the brain is missing out on a lot of

data and I think that we should never

exclude

ourselves from the unknown you know I

think there's a whole part of the

unknown self that that we're unaware of

that that I'm that I think exists Beyond

linear uh time and space

and I and I do believe that that it's

real and and you don't know what that is

oh I do yeah yeah I think it's a realm

beyond space and time that that I think

uh you know your eye right now is

perceiving a very small spectrum of

frequency visible light it's a very tiny

slice in the electromagnetic uh spectrum

and that visible light red orange yellow

blue green indigo violet is is actually

uh bouncing off of the slowest and most

stable form of energy called matter and

that gives us this perception of

Separation right well that small

spectrum is less than 1% of what we

actually can perceive so I think that

our senses plug us into reality into

three-dimensional reality but I think

there are realities that exist beyond

space and time that we're unaware of

that we can tap into yeah yeah I do and

I think there are latent systems in the

brain that once activated allows the

brain to transduce that energy that

frequency into profound uh information

the psychedelics drug drugs work in in

that in that way I think psychedelics uh

give a person a perception of reality

that's beyond three-dimensional reality

we're discovering that the nervous

system makes its own Pharmacy of

psychedelics in fact we have really

recent data that shows that um many

people that have a mystical experience

in our work that have

fmis uh look like they're on

psilocybin yeah and yet your nervous

system is making that that that uh

natural

chemical

endogenously and how were those mystical

experiences triggered I'll give you the

short version um there's a tiny little

gland in the back of your brain called

the pineal gland and the pineal gland

has tiny little crystals inside of it

that are stacked up on top of each other

rhombohedron in shape and that little

tiny gland acts like a radio receiver

for electromagnetic frequencies and when

those crystals be can can become

activated uh like a radio receiver they

can pick up frequencies that are beyond

your senses the quantum and they can

transduce it's called a transducer it

can transduce that frequency like a TV

antenna into profound imagery

a very full-on sensory experience

without your

senses

interesting explains a

lot explains a lot my girlfriend always

talks to me about the penal gland and

DMT and you know and the power of

everything you've just

described I just want to remain

open-minded because being closed-minded

at any point in my life is not conducive

with progress and growth so my my um

desire in doing this podcast generally

is just to learn from people that have

New Perspectives on the nature of the

world and to

remain humble in the fact that I know

very little so what you said at the end

there about us knowing almost knowing

zero about the nature of true reality or

whatever that might mean I do believe I

do believe that I know very little about

the true nature of reality and my senses

have deceived me whether it's in

psychedelic States or other states so

I'm very aware how the fragility of this

experience or you know whether the truth

is what I think it is yeah well um I

think it only takes one mystical Moment

One transcendental moment for us to

realize that um we're missing out on a

little bit of

reality we have a closing tradition on

this podcast where the last guest leaves

a question for the next guest without

knowing who they're leaving a question

for if you were made president oh boy of

this

country and you had to implement laws

that would make Our Lives better wow

what would you do and

why Wow where do we

[Laughter]

start oh boy

um well um I would consider education uh

to be a much bigger priority for uh both

people that teach uh that they're reward

wed in a in a better way and the

educational system to be uh more

Socratic and more stimulating for uh

people to question and and and to have

healthy debates I think that's great um

I would consider looking at the medical

Model A little bit more and really look

to see if healthc care is really uh

helping people in this country uh I

would find ways

to uh unify

uh uh different uh uh sects or or

different uh uh organizations or bring

them together bring them to the middle

in some way I I I

think uh standing up for

principles in instead of politics is is

a really healthy thing to do uh I'd

probably try to figure out a way to

reduce the debt to end War uh to find

ways that we could coexist with

countries um I'd certainly think a lot

about artificial intelligence and decide

if it was uh really really healthy for

human

beings

uh I I would uh encourage in many ways

uh different religions to come together

and and find ways to to um to get

along um I would spend a lot of time

with regenerative agriculture in

bringing life back to the soil and back

to the Earth uh

and figur out ways to help the the

oceans and species that are passing and

and to address uh healthy food food that

is good for people that that is medicine

for people Joe thank you for your work

and thank you on behalf of all the

people the millions of people all around

the world that you're clearly helping

without really even knowing it um I've

never seen such profound testimonials in

any you know in anything I've ever seen

and also the reason why I actually have

this on the table isn't because you

asked to promote me I think your team

actually said I didn't need to put on

the table but it's because one of our

members of our team um their elderly

relative has been going through a lot of

a lot of pain and struggle in their

lives um and they read your book and it

really really helped them this week oh

that's great so they asked if they could

you could get if I could get it signed

on behalf of them absolutely which I

think is a testament to to the impact

you're having on people so thank you so

much Joe it's an honor no thank you

Stephen for all the work you do also I

appreciate it

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