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Thank you for having me. Um, and uh, I would be there in person, but uh, this is a IPO, you know, we've got to get the IPO, SpaceX IPO going pretty soon, I think. But I look forward to visiting

think. But I look forward to visiting Israel again. I'm happy to I, you know,

Israel again. I'm happy to I, you know, answer any questions you may have or I I've got a few questions lined up for you.

Interesting. Whatever would be interesting. Yeah.

interesting. Yeah.

Perfect. So So I'll start with the first one. Tesla has spent years developing

one. Tesla has spent years developing the vision and technology for smart mobility. Now that you're moving from

mobility. Now that you're moving from testing to actual deployment, what is the biggest challenge in scaling this technology to millions of users around the world?

So, in terms of um having self-driving be ubiquitous, um I think we're making steady progress. The Tesla full

steady progress. The Tesla full self-driving software, which is really just AI and cameras, we don't use radars or LAR or anything like that. It's

really trying to drive the car in the same way that a human drives the car, which is human drives the car primarily with vision and with a biological neural net that we take the same approach with

our vehicles, which is a digital neural net and cameras. And and we we I expect this approach to ultimately be at least an order of magnitude safer than than

humans driving. I'm not sure how I'm not

humans driving. I'm not sure how I'm not sure if we have approval for this in Israel. I think we may have or we'll get

Israel. I think we may have or we'll get it soon hopefully and you'll be able to experience it for yourself. But it is quite magical because the car feels like it is sentient. It feel actually feels

like it's alive and um you can actually as we improve the software you can feel this the sentience growing in the car.

It feels alive and and I think we already have some vehicles operating with no people inside and no safety monitors in three cities in Texas and

probably will be widespread in the US by the end of this year and hopefully in in Israel too.

Thank you. We look forward to that.

The world's going to have a lot of robots in the future and uh what Tesla makes is effectively four-w wheeled robots right now. And uh in the future we'll also be having uh humanoid robots.

You're seeing a lot of startups with humanoid robots. And my my prediction is

humanoid robots. And my my prediction is that there will be far far more robots like intelligent robots in the world than there will be people. And um and I

think this is most likely to be a good thing. You know, we always want to be a

thing. You know, we always want to be a little paranoid or certainly not complacent about the safety of robots, but I think it will usher in an age of

not universal basic income, but universal high income, right? Thank you. Uh I think we have one

right? Thank you. Uh I think we have one of your robots out here in the exhibition, so that's also a lot of fun for everybody here. Go and take a look.

Um Optimus subprime.

Exactly. When you think about, let's say, the most exciting development or breakthrough that you're working on right now, what do you think would be the one that people aren't talking about enough?

Well, um I guess people are mostly aware of the rockets that SpaceX does. There's

the Starship rocket, which we are now in version three of will, I think, achieve full and rapid reusability. This is the fundamental breakthrough necessary to make life multilanetary to extend

consciousness beyond Earth and have self-sustaining cities, self-growing cities on the moon, uh, Mars and elsewhere in the solar system. So, this

is really quite a profound breakthrough and we may we might succeed in doing that this year. The critical factor being full and rapid reuse of all parts of the rocket. Um, that that's that's quite that's that's a much bigger deal

than than people would realize. when

that technology is developed that'll be a fork in the road of human history uh where we can become a space bearing civilization um multilanet species and I think that's a that's an incredibly

exciting thing um perhaps to some degree there's also people not that many people are aware of neural link which is creating a cybernetic interface AI from

your brain and it it is enabled people who have u completely lost their uh brain body connection to speak again and to use their computer and their phone.

Um, and we believe it will enable people to walk again. Um because you can take the signals from the brain from the mo motor cortex and and if somebody has say

a severe spinal injury, you can transmit those those signals to a second neural implant and reanimate the body so that people can uh use their limbs and we

think at some point live a normal life by effectively bridging the signals from the brain to the to past the point in the spine where the damage has occurred.

Now these are pretty wild um things that that that that are possible. And then um later this year we expect to do our first implant for what we call blind

sight uh where even if somebody has lost both eyes or lost the optic nerve or perhaps has not even be able to seen as has never seen even if they were blind

at birth uh it will give them initially limited vision but I think over time very precise vision perhaps super superhuman vision. Um so

superhuman vision. Um so you know restoring control of people who are tetroplegics um and restoring sight I think are

pretty pretty big deals sort of what I you might call like sort of Jesus level sort of technologies you know um miracles miracles

miracles yes exactly I mean miracles of science yeah uh great thank you I have Another question about the automotive world, if

I bring you back to smart mobility. When

you look past the immediate rollouts of FSD which you mentioned and the cyber cab, what does the ultimate endgame for smart mobility look like in 10 or 20 years from now? I mean, what is the

grand vision that still keeps you up at night when we talk about mobility?

Well, I at at this point I I the the path to cars driving an order of magnitude safer than humans is very clear. I I think

it's not really a question mark. So when

I'm not sure this keeps me up at night cuz I see the path is just so obviously there. Um and I I think if you say 5

there. Um and I I think if you say 5 years from now or certainly 10 years from now, my guess is if say like 10 years from now, probably 90% of all

distance driven will be driven by the AI in a self-driving car.

So overwhelmingly it it'll be quite a niche thing in 10 years to actually be driving your own car. The car will drive you. Um, I think there will also be

you. Um, I think there will also be humanoid robots that are pretty much everywhere. Um, and and I think it'll be

everywhere. Um, and and I think it'll be pretty cool. I mean, because who

pretty cool. I mean, because who wouldn't want their own personal uh C3PO R2-D2, but even better than that? And I think everyone's going to want one. Maybe two

a Terminator.

Well, yeah, hopefully not. But uh we do need to be concern we should always be concerned about such a thing because yeah Terminator is one of the possible outcomes. I think it's an unlikely one,

outcomes. I think it's an unlikely one, but it's not impossible. And so we should always be careful to make sure the robots are safe. But the

this is why I actually think we are headed to a a future of amazing abundance. And because you can think of

abundance. And because you can think of the output of the economy as productivity per capita times the population. And if the robots are

population. And if the robots are extremely productive and you have a lot of them, you're effectively going to have an economy that will be maybe 10 or even 100 times bigger than what it is

today. And that's why I I think it's

today. And that's why I I think it's it's going to be a future of universal high income. Um

high income. Um where pretty much anyone can have whatever they want. There are larger questions of of meaning. So, how do we derive meaning in a world where AI and

and robots can do can do anything better than we can do? Because that that is probably where we're headed. But I I think people will still find ways to

have meaning. I I I

have meaning. I I I and sometimes I wonder also it's like what is the future? I can always like ask this question. What is the future

that you want? Like what do what do you think the future is? What's the best future you can possibly imagine?

And a lot of people are often um I they're like a little surprised by that question cuz it's like well let's say there was let's say

praying to God and and you ask for this for a given future. What what future do you want God to give you?

and probably a future where there's amazing abundance for all where everybody has incredible medical care and we have this and in fact where say

anything can be cured um where people no no one is hungry and people are free to do what they would like I think that's probably the best future and peace and love

yeah always worry about if you wish for something does it actually become some dystopian version of that but certainly love I think we want a future with that that seems like a no-brainer. The

peace is an interesting one because you know it sometimes the the price for complete peace maybe may maybe too high because

the complete peace may require too much suppression of the people. So perhaps

there is peace to some degree but not completely. Ideally there's not like

completely. Ideally there's not like large scale war of course but like you have to think about these questions kind of deeply. Do you want a world where

of deeply. Do you want a world where there's no conflict?

But how do you achieve a world of no conflict at all without some form of suppression? So my guess is probably

suppression? So my guess is probably people would want a future with some conflict, a total peace, but nothing not a serious war perhaps. But these are

interesting philosophical questions.

I I what future would you like?

No, totally. I'm going to bring you back to ask to Israel here just for a second.

Do do you have a message to the Israeli innovators here in the crowd?

Uh well I have to say uh you know I I'm a huge admirer of the innovation coming out of Israel. Um honestly I think objectively true that Israel punches far

above its weight for population. Um I

think probably number one honestly in the world in terms of Yeah.

My head is my head is my head is off to Israel for just how much incredible innovation I say innovation per capita.

Israel's must be number one by far in the world.

Thank you. Before Before you go, I would like to invite Israel's Minister of Transport and Road Safety, Brigadier General Mir Regv to join our conversation. Minister Reggie has been a

conversation. Minister Reggie has been a driving force behind Israel's massive investment in transportation infrastructure and safety while making sure that innovation is front and center at the core of Israel's transport

policy. Please welcome Minister Regger

policy. Please welcome Minister Regger to the stage.

Thanks Daniela. Shalom. Thanks Telon.

You are great. We love you. Go to sleep.

I see I see that you are tired. Thank

you for joining us. It's like 2:30 in the morning here in in Austin, Texas.

Uh, but it was it was a Thank you for having me and uh um yeah um it was a pleasure. Thank you.

pleasure. Thank you.

Thank you, Dylan. Thank you.