Fear Is Their Weapon. Why The Next 5 Years Will Transform Humanity | Lee Harris

This is a revolutionary time on earth.

You have seen many outlandish things that pre2020 you would not have believed possible. The gloves are off. Human

possible. The gloves are off. Human

beings are programmed to follow. You

believe we are trapped. The power system on Earth has always been corrupt. But

now you can see it. You are souls who were born to be part of the change. Feel

it. This is the resistance. Beware of

division. getting you to fight each other is the fastest way to get you out of your collective power. Fear is how you get control. Be mindful of being

asked to separate from, judge, or divide from others. Things will look dark for a

from others. Things will look dark for a while. There is a growing force of

while. There is a growing force of individuals who are already building the new world. Light, love, and higher

new world. Light, love, and higher consciousness is playing out all of the time. The truth is all of you are going

time. The truth is all of you are going to die at some point. That's inevitable.

Your fear of death is one of the ways they catch you. The question is, are you going to live?

Hi, I'm Miami.

And I'm Jonathan Cohen.

And welcome to part two of our conversation with Lee Harris, a globally recognized spiritual teacher, intuitive, and best-selling author. We've had him on the breakdown before, but this time

he is channeling the Z's, the spiritual guides who have literally guided his whole life for the past several decades.

We get to ask him all the hard questions that we've been waiting to ask. In part

one of our conversation, we focused on understanding what channeling is and what the Z's can provide us in terms of demonic forces, the Earth's resources,

and the possibility of World War II that so many of us want to know more about.

In part two of our conversation, we're going to tackle the consciousness of humanity, why the system that seems to be crumbling overnight has to go slower

than we might expect, and how the next 5 years will show us the rise of humanity, including the emergence of us as light warriors.

We also talk about how to develop your intuition, understanding what is guidance versus fear, and how to navigate your life from a more intuitive place. We hope you enjoy part two of our

place. We hope you enjoy part two of our conversation with Lee Harris.

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If the Epstein files are a smoke screen to distract us, what should we be focusing on?

Well, we would say that is fairly clear.

Meaning, and we understand, we do not mean to be uh obtuse or play a game with you. You are in a period of history

you. You are in a period of history where you are beginning to see human rights eroded, taken away. That is the

goal. That is the attempt and the

goal. That is the attempt and the intent. But, and this is very important,

intent. But, and this is very important, pay attention to the grassroots movements in the areas that have been most struck, the amount of people saying

no, and the way they are figuring out how to say no. We have said for many years this is a revolutionary time on earth but it won't always look like uh

old style revolutions because you are in a very different time in history and energy is different and technology is different but you are at a time on earth

where as we will call it internal control starts to crumble more and more which it will over the coming years you as people are going to have to fill in

the gaps where your system leaves a gap.

So for example, as certain systems become more destabilized, you the people are going to have to figure out how to make it work for and by and with

yourselves. So we are not implying that

yourselves. So we are not implying that whole parts of your infrastructure will disappear overnight for that would not serve anyone. You have to remember that

serve anyone. You have to remember that the goal is uh to keep you here but not necessarily with the freedom that you are used to. Now that's the goal that is

playing out right now. That is not the spiritual truth of earth. That is the agenda of a dominating force who you are now in a reckoning with because they are more exposed than they have ever been.

So this is where you have to zoom out a little. You as human beings who are

little. You as human beings who are programmed to follow exactly what is playing out on earth right now. You

believe uhoh we are trapped because our powers that be might not have our best interests at heart and we don't know how to get out of it. And we say no, you are

souls who were born unto the earth at this time to be part of the change of power system on earth that has always

been corrupt. But now you can see it.

been corrupt. But now you can see it.

Now you can feel it. Now you have tools, wherewithal, and knowhow to tackle it.

This is why your own personal empowerment is so important at these times. That is why we said to you,

times. That is why we said to you, Jonathan, you feeling sadness, even though that's not comfortable for you, it's not desired. It's good. Feel the

sadness, feel the grief, feel the anger, feel the rage, feel the devastation, those feelings won't last because your will to live and your will to build a

new world will kick in. That is what you are all here doing. So yes, we are having a very sobering conversation perhaps about areas of the planet that

are quite difficult to navigate right now. But what you also have to remember

now. But what you also have to remember is the amount of angelic and energetic support that is now gathering around this planet. We have said this for many

this planet. We have said this for many years. You are getting help and we will

years. You are getting help and we will call it interference for some of those lower agendas all of the time. You just

will never hear about that on your mainstream news. That is why uh this

mainstream news. That is why uh this kind of programming conversation is very important.

This is the resistance and we don't like using that term because it pulls you back into a us paradigm.

The truth is all of you are going to die at some point. That's inevitable. You

will either die of old age or you will die earlier. So death is going to

die earlier. So death is going to happen. You are often uh uh caught by

happen. You are often uh uh caught by your fear of death. Your fear of death is one of the ways they catch you. Well,

you're all going to die. The question

is, are you going to live? And how do you want to live? And do you want to live in a world that is more free for all? And this is very important. We now

all? And this is very important. We now

have to say this.

The consciousness of humanity has developed to such a degree that no longer are you needing the old form of the system. You've outgrown it. So you

the system. You've outgrown it. So you

think they're trying to enslave you because they are trying to quickly trap you all before you will get too powerful. No, it's already happened.

powerful. No, it's already happened.

It's already happened. That is why they are trying to clamp down now. You have

already gone beyond human consciousness in recent decades and centuries. So

there are more of you on the planet now who are more we will call it tapped in.

You may not yet have figured out how to uh bring it to the system of the world, but what we can tell you is this.

Because we understand the need for a hero or a savior, and we are not telling you a bedtime story when we say this, and we also don't want you to rely on the idea that someone's going to come in and scoop you up at the last minute and

save you. But you are in the coming

save you. But you are in the coming years going to see of more awareness of your galactic origins that Earth is a

part of galactic not just humanity but uh galactic consciousness and the galactic tribe and there are those who have already been on your planet for a

very long time uh who are going to come to the surface a little more. Part of

the problem is it is the old story that you believe in that keeps you in the story. More and

more of you aren't believing the story anymore. And once you don't believe the

anymore. And once you don't believe the story, your energy field can't be a vibrational match for it, which means you can't recreate the story. That's why

so many right now are rushing to try and gain control.

It's amazing. And I want to put some detail, a little flesh on the bone of what you were talking about as I understand it to see if I'm tracking right before moving into the empowerment

because it feels like that's where this conversation is going. But when you talk about clamping down control and that the systems are breaking down, it feels like

we have to rebuild so that we can avoid control. For example, avoid everyone

control. For example, avoid everyone being monitored all the time. the new

technological tools being used to control the move movement of people. The

uh not spying necessarily but I tracking every piece of information the fact that our power is centralized and media is centralized. All the systems are

centralized. All the systems are becoming so centralized that they then have a monopoly and they can't be challenged in any way. So it feels like there needs to be new startups use of

this technology in order to create and ensure safety, security, privacy, the ability to move, think, share ideas so that they can't be censored.

Yes. 10 to 15 years ago, we gave a message multiple times because it needed to be given uh that those of you who are saying we wish the system would fall down overnight and we could rebuild

something else. We said, "Oh no, you do

something else. We said, "Oh no, you do not want that at all. That is not the way to go here. That would be devastation and chaos and we said it will all play out over a much slower

timeline so that you can make adjustments as you go. Yes, innovation

is very important. It is why we have given Lee the pieces of information that he delivers every month in his energy updates on YouTube that there is a

growing force of individuals that you may not even know about who are already building the new world. They are already building what is going to be needed for humanity in the coming years. And it is

not one way because it is going to vary from country to country and it is going to vary from region to region. The

centralization is what you want to avoid. But we are not too fond of

avoid. But we are not too fond of predictions because timelines can change. But we will tell you that

change. But we will tell you that globalization in the way it is desired is not going to synthesize or

synchronize. Uh because those egos of

synchronize. Uh because those egos of the individuals involved who think they can all team up to pull this off together, they are going to uh implode on each

other. They are going to destroy each

other. They are going to destroy each other. You are in the middle of watching

other. You are in the middle of watching that play out now. So the power hungry are having less places to hide. And the

vibration of power hunger, it would be far better. We will say this even though

far better. We will say this even though we do not mean this is what's going to happen. It would be far better if you

happen. It would be far better if you all just died if that was going to play out because none of you will want to be here on that earth. But that is why that is not what's going to play out. But at

the moment, what you are seeing is we will call it galactic greed. It is not as earthbound as you think. And we do not say that to scare any of you or to

challenge the notion that you are not living among humans for you are. But

there is galactic infiltration that has been here for a very long time.

We're very appreciative of all of the time and literally energy that you've been giving us. Um before we return to our conversation with Lee, I wonder if

you can give us um some sort of support for what personal growth and transformation needs to look like in this time. What are the practical things

this time. What are the practical things that we can take from this information and while knowing we don't know all of the information that's

going to be coming? What do we need to be doing to prepare?

Beware of division. Division means when you are asked to point the finger at a group and see them as less than or see them as a group that needs annihilation

or stopping. Uh this has been

or stopping. Uh this has been manufactured by the way uh the pumping of different agendas on earth to get you

to be angry at what this group want or this group need. It has been done deliberately by certain groups who know that getting you to fight each other is

the fastest way to get you compliant and out of your collective power. So you

will see division. It will happen but choose not to engage with it. Choose to

find those where you are aligned. Now we

are not saying do not have constructive conversations for the other side of what we want to share with you. It it is important to communicate your truth. Not

to hit other people over the head with it or that you need to be understood.

But it is important that you can calmly communicate your truth as you feel it and as you see it and know it. Why? The

person you say it to might not believe you. They might find what you're saying

you. They might find what you're saying strange, but eight people later it will lock in for them.

Maym spoke about conspiracy theories which many would have dismissed and now many of you are realizing ah there was a lot of truth in that. Perhaps it was delivered in a way that was a little

inflammatory at the time or it wasn't quite the right style of communication I heard that in or I just wasn't ready or more importantly I didn't have enough evidence to support this outlandish

claim as true. We think you can all admit that now over the last 6 years you have seen many outlandish things that pre2020 you would not have believed

possible. So you know that the gloves

possible. So you know that the gloves are off. So, communicate your truth

are off. So, communicate your truth lovingly and peacefully, not to convince others, not to bludgeon others over the head, but if you feel someone is missing

something or they may need to hear what you have to say, lovingly and peacefully communicate your truth. And if they reject or fight your truth, let that be good information to you. This is not the

time for us to be perhaps aligned on this or even close to each other. And

that's okay. We understand that some of the trauma for some of you in recent years has been the heartbreak of the loss of friendships because of division.

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While you are all in heartbreak, you are not a unified group. So be mindful of division. Be mindful of where you are

division. Be mindful of where you are told to target or hate another human being. That will be popular and it's a

being. That will be popular and it's a popular device. Uh the other side is

popular device. Uh the other side is communicate. Communicate your truth when

communicate. Communicate your truth when and if you need to in a loving, calm, stable way. Focus on what is important

stable way. Focus on what is important to you here as a soul. You all came here with a soul mission and you will feel driven and compelled to do that. It

might be that you are a parent and you feel driven and compelled to be a parent right now. It might be that for example

right now. It might be that for example in your case and Jonathan you have conversations like this that are designed to open up people's world beyond the world they thought was

possible. You need to see a world of

possible. You need to see a world of possibility. Even this conversation,

possibility. Even this conversation, which perhaps some were looking forward to and maybe didn't get the sparkly rainbows they were hoping for, instead

they got a slightly sobering reality dose of what is playing out because it needed to be addressed. And this is the time where you are capable of it.

Understand that light, love, and higher consciousness is playing out all of the time. All of the time. There are those

time. All of the time. There are those on the planet every single day who are bringing love, compassion, harmony and higher consciousness through their

actions, through their ways of behaving.

Find those people and amplify with them.

The other thing we will say to you is this and we have to be careful with this next piece for we do not want to put you in inertia.

Try to stay balanced with the different we will call it energetic volcanoes you see going off around the world.

There are energetic volcanoes going off around the world and for that we mean a political event that is distressing or something that comes out uh such as the

files you were speaking about or equally war breaks out in a certain country. We

are not saying be passive or look away or bypass any feelings you have around it, but try and be patient and understand that this is a time where those things are playing out. But

something else is emerging too, which is the rise of empowered human consciousness. The best thing we can say

consciousness. The best thing we can say to you is you have never seen what you are about to see in the next 5 years.

And we're not speaking about uh the devastation that you are seeing right now in the world. We're talking about the rise of humanity. You have never

seen the rise of humanity in your lifetime on earth the way you are about to see it in the next 5 years. And it

will be glorious in many ways. You won't

always want to see humanity having to rise against.

But what you will see will be quite surprising to you. There are many on the planet now who are coming into what we can only call more metaphysical powers.

This doesn't mean they are magicians who can send lightning out of their hands necessarily, but energetically they can and they do. They do it with their words, with their actions, with their heart. They are not doing this alone.

heart. They are not doing this alone.

You are all conduits for higher vibrational energy. So as you start to

vibrational energy. So as you start to tap into more of that in yourself and you start to shed more of your own human trauma patterns, these stories that they

are trying to recycle on Earth to hook you back in through fear, guilt, shame, and lower vibrations have less magnetic power to you. So you stop being the old

world that they can enslave and you start being the new world that they have no power over. So we do not mean to sound too vague there or obtuse. Uh it

is hard to put into words some of what we know and feel is rising in humanity now. But you are going to see the rise

now. But you are going to see the rise of some incredibly brave, we will call them light warriors, more of them than you have ever seen doing the

extraordinary. But you are also going to

extraordinary. But you are also going to have more, we will call it galactic contact. You are going to have more

contact. You are going to have more exposure to and interaction with things that would have, let's say, 40 years ago, seemed like science fiction to all

of those who weren't experiencing those things. But now your friends who told

things. But now your friends who told you that they had contact experiences in the 80s do not look quite so foolish to you. And in fact, they were some of the

you. And in fact, they were some of the early experiences that are helping to normalize what is coming now. So there

are many of you here, you too included, who are strong. Doesn't mean you won't have vulnerable days. Doesn't mean you won't have days where you are feeling a little flat or not as strong as you

normally are. But you are here for the

normally are. But you are here for the leadership of this time. And there are many many many millions of you who are equipped for this time, who are built for this time. And that is why you are

here. You are not here to go down a path

here. You are not here to go down a path of suffering. But you are at a junction

of suffering. But you are at a junction point in humanity where some would like to try and take you in that direction.

The reason they are being continually exposed is because it cannot hold.

I feel very very lucky to get to have this conversation um and also to have Lee in our life to to guide us this way.

Uh one of the things that people talk about which is going to happen possibly in these next 5 years is that our

interface with extraterrestrial beings is going to become more part of this reality. Is this something that you have

reality. Is this something that you have information about?

Yes, it is true. And you are already interfacing with extraterrestrial beings in many ways. much of your technology was taken from there and in fact the technology you are given is far behind

what is possible on earth. So yes there is going to be more disclosure. Uh there

are going to be those who shall we say cover their tracks by releasing certain files that they have been sitting on for decades and decades and decades. And

again you have to ask why were we not shown this? Why are we not in a we would

shown this? Why are we not in a we would call it uh equal relationship with our leadership? You are beginning to see the

leadership? You are beginning to see the corruption of the leadership and the corruption of the leadership is also being changed. There are going to be

being changed. There are going to be those others who will rise and give you more positive leadership. But back to your extraterrestrial question. Uh this

is not new to any of you. This is why so many of you have been so fascinated by whether it is television programs or media that has brought you to this. But

what you have to watch out for is who is controlling the information. Uh there

will be attempts to tell you a story much as you were told some stories in 2020 uh about what the nature of extraterrestrial contact is with Earth.

And you will have to discern is this true or is this untrue. That is going to be part of the game in the coming years.

But what we can tell you is more people are awake since 2020 than ever before.

And we don't mean awake in a spiritual meditation sense. We mean awake to what

meditation sense. We mean awake to what should I trust and what should I ask more questions about before I say yes to it. So yes, there will be

it. So yes, there will be extraterrestrial disclosure increasingly. But what we

disclosure increasingly. But what we will also say is the realm of the soul that many have believed is purely human

is actually galactic. So it is not that you are meeting aliens as it were. It is

more that you are remembering who you are and how you are connected to a vast universe. You are not a separate species

universe. You are not a separate species in the way that you have been told you are. So that is possibly the best way we

are. So that is possibly the best way we could frame it to you. But there is something else we want to add to you here and it goes back to what we were speaking about before you asked that

question May because it's important.

We understand that this conversation has been very focused on the shadow of your current world. But we want to reassure

current world. But we want to reassure those of you who are feeling exhausted or deflated by everything going on on the planet right now. It does not help

you to keep looking at that information particularly from mainstream media when you are deflated. What will help you in those moments is knowing you need to

step back knowing that your nervous system is not benefiting from repetitive or obsessive looking at this information. And that is sovereignty.

information. And that is sovereignty.

And that is what many of you were not taught. You were not taught how to

taught. You were not taught how to regulate your nervous systems. You were just given all kinds of devices and entertainment that was designed to soothe your nervous system, aggravate your nervous system, inflame your

nervous system, and you weren't given the why. So, this is a time where more

the why. So, this is a time where more of you are having to understand the sovereignty of your own inner being. And

that is why so many have turned inward in recent years and decades. That is why the path of the soul and the journey of going within is an important pastime at

times like these. It is not that you just have to always be on the front line fighting as an activist. In fact, we would ask any of you who see yourselves

as either spiritual or earth activists.

Please take care of yourselves. We

observe how many of you run yourselves ragged. And it's very important to know

ragged. And it's very important to know how to fill yourself back up because this is a long game, not a short game.

It's very important the speed and the duration. Um, two final questions, one

duration. Um, two final questions, one very personal, one very galactic.

I have this sense that in some ways experiment may not be the right word, but that Earth is an experiment and whether or not humanity can find a way

to avoid division to come together and find and build the new structures and systems that are inclusive, loving, and connected has a ripple effect beyond

Earth. that what is learned here will

Earth. that what is learned here will travel outwards and impact other civilizations, other planets or I I don't even know what to call them. Is

that accurate? Is there a sense that what happens here has a larger implication?

And the second part of the question unrelated is have Mayam and I interacted in previous lifetimes or is this the only incarnation? The answer to the

only incarnation? The answer to the first question is yes. And the answer to the second question is of course but you know that uh we have already given you that information through Lee last time

we were with you in your presence. Of

course you two have interacted many times but you have interacted in many different ways. You are part of each

different ways. You are part of each other's soul group. You have had lifetimes where you have been allies where you have been partners or married you may call it. You have also had

lifetimes where you have been enemies.

It's what makes your relationship rounded, but it also is why you create a coherent field between you for conversations like this. You are not both the same and nor are you trying to

be. You are coming towards the same

be. You are coming towards the same realizations from very different points.

May has more uh star energy which simply means she is one who can emit. She is

able to generate wattage. Uh you even though May of course has the scholarly backbone which is what she is leaning into here you Jonathan have the

vibration of the energetic healer. So

you are more subtle in your outward expression but you are very tall in your soul. Stars have to, shall we say, uh,

soul. Stars have to, shall we say, uh, consolidate all of their energy into their human body in order to emit and pulse out. Tall beings such as yourself,

pulse out. Tall beings such as yourself, Jonathan, are like tall trees. They

stabilize uh for others and it is its own skill, its own power. So between the two of you, you have both stability and

outreach. That is why you are a good

outreach. That is why you are a good pair and cohesion and some of your own personal learning and healing together

has been a big part of that. Uh for May, we hope you do not mind us saying this and we know you will snip it out if YOU DON'T LIKE IT. Uh for May, trust has been a big life theme. uh she has

experienced many trust wounds and betrayals in her life and she wants to trust and so you have been a wonderful advocate for steadiness and consistency

even when waves have occurred between the two of you and for you Jonathan being able to bring yourself onto the

earth as a grounded force and make things happen uh may has been a gift for you in at for that is effortless for her in many ways. She is one who can make

things happen and generate through her star energy the ability to bring things to the planet. So we are speaking personally about you two but anyone listening or watching can apply this to

their own relationships not just romantic partnerships but friendships or business partnerships. You tend to be

business partnerships. You tend to be attracted to those who can help you both heal, learn, and grow, but also help you with your missions. Uh whether it is the

mission of healing a family lineage or whether it is the mission of bringing work to the outside world.

I think we should invite Lee back.

Good. A pleasure to be with you both. We

will say this uh to all who have listened and are still here and have not stopped the conversation. Uh please do not give up on your sense of hope or

light for the future. We know this is not an easy time on earth. We know that.

But you knew that too. You always knew this was going to be part for the course. What we can tell you is you are

course. What we can tell you is you are going to see continual breakthroughs in the coming years. Things will look dark for a while and then all of a sudden

things will shift. So try not to think the worst case scenario every time a new alarm bell raises for you. Remember fear

is how you get controlled. So be mindful of your own fear. Be mindful of being asked to separate from judge or divide from others on the planet. Even if there

is a being on the planet whose life you do not understand, unless you can see that they are operating from a dark uh place, do not let yourself be talked into separating from them. Even if you

are not going to be their best friend, separating you is how you get divided.

But here is the good news. As is shown to all of you who have gone through recent terrible experiences on Earth, humans are programmed to come together

when the chips are down. So when humans need to rely on each other, it is instinctive and intrinsic that they do.

You have been separated from each other in so many ways. But that is about to change and more and more of you are coming together. So the rise of

coming together. So the rise of consciousness first got all of you above your heads and has slowly been coming down through your body, through your third eye, through your throat, through

your heart, into your body. So you are now becoming what we would call embodied consciousness at a new level. You're all

at different places. Some of you will be very in the psychic realms. Some of you will be very grounded in love in action.

There is not better. So let go of hierarchy. And if you notice you are in

hierarchy. And if you notice you are in hierarchy in yourself or towards others.

We implore you to do that ego work that probably comes from your lineage to let go of the idea of superiority and inferiority. It will only limit you from

inferiority. It will only limit you from love.

So in peace, in love and in oneness to all.

Hi.

How do you feel?

Hot.

Your whole head and your face, if people are only listening to it, like there's this unbelievable presence of like in your skin, you can

see it.

Valerie has been feeling nauseous the whole time she's been messaging.

Is that something that happens sometimes when information is channeled? She said

she's had a a persistent feeling of like feeling out of it, dizzy.

Can I offer my thesis to this? When we

were talking about the evolution and the awakening of human consciousness on Earth, it feels like what's happening externally is being mirrored. or all

these mirrored systems. So each one of us is experiencing an awakening, seeing our dark side, seeing our movement

towards connection, our hate, our love.

And as we hear a message that opens up truth that makes us have to face ourselves, that's a nauseating process.

It feels uncomfortable because we're used to creating some sort of semblance of balance so that we can function in the world. And anytime we have to

the world. And anytime we have to change, right, something happens for us.

Either it's traumatic or we get sick.

When we get sick, sometimes we get knocked off our center. It's like, oh, we have to actually reset and we need a sickness to take us out of our regular routine so we can readjust. And

sometimes that's what people call upgrades. And you know, the hippie the

upgrades. And you know, the hippie the hippie like, oh, I got a download. I

totally see things differently after you're knocked off your regular life for a while. So to me, some of that

a while. So to me, some of that nauseousness can literally be about a a clearing, a cleanse that's happening.

Yes. So to answer your question and what Valerie said, people do go through energy movements, but a lot of the times when I'm channeling, we're not necessarily talking about these kinds of topics.

So for example, if I'm at one of my workshops or events, it's not usually a Q&A. It's that there might be a 30

Q&A. It's that there might be a 30 minute channel that's designed on helping you open your energy field.

normally, you know, these kinds of we're not on these topics. Um, also what I've noticed is cuz someone said to me, "Oh, wow. The Z's are really opening up now."

wow. The Z's are really opening up now."

And I'm like, "No, years ago, they were saying some of this stuff, but what I notice is is when they say things, I'm like, "Oh, wow. We must be ready to hear

it now because it's coming through and it's coming out." So yes, people do go through certain certain things, but I would say that what we were talking

about today, we were looking at some of the the darkest and the shadowiest parts of our earth. So I think when we do look at that, you do kind of feel sick. You

know, I felt sick watching everything going on in um Minnesota and Minneapolis through January. I just felt sick for

through January. I just felt sick for like two weeks. I felt like this collective nervous system horror in my own system.

You know, I think we all go through different moments with that. There are

certain world events that will draw us into purging the horror. But I will let me say this too. Often the Z's leave people euphoric. So I think, you know, I

people euphoric. So I think, you know, I think it depends where they're going.

Like if they're transmitting something that's designed to help you tap into your your wider energy field, um, no, it's it's not necessarily that. But I

think we were we we looked at the shadow which I think is appropriate right now.

You know, I wonder if people watching especially could feel what was happening in the room because it's only after you stopped channeling that I had an awareness of

just how intense the energy in the room was.

Like we've never had anything in this space that had had that it was it was a it's like a this pulsing vibration.

And as we were in it, I was like just going with it and and I didn't realize, but like we were opening up a curtain to something that was like very deep and

and yeah, I don't even know how to describe it.

How How is it for you?

I don't know. I'm very cogn like I'm very like I'm very um cerebral.

Yeah, I'm very cerebral. I mean, I'm interested and I'm listening, but I just like the whole scenario that we're in is so fascinating to me. So, I think that it's very hard for me to kind of like

drop in. But, I don't know. I think,

drop in. But, I don't know. I think,

you know, I think that there's what really resonates is this kind of wisdom.

And I think you're wise, but this feels like wisdom from another place, you know, like there's something very kind of different, I guess, about that that I definitely um could pick up on.

You usually don't like to talk about the evolution of the planet. Meaning like

you you she's the difference between us is is that you like to often be very specific and I tend to look at like systems and so you're bigger picture and you'll go

more detail, right? and we play off really well like that with one another.

Um, we were both when you were speaking about light warriors, we both touched on that at the same time because that was a moment where we're saying there is an personal empowerment happening. And when

I mean when I say there's there are mirrored systems is that each person is caught in their own version of a narrative, right? Like we know that just that's is

right? Like we know that just that's is this is not hippie. This is psych psychology. were programmed from a very

psychology. were programmed from a very young age.

Yeah. But I think that's also kind of what we were talking about with all of this darkness is that everyone also has their own particular angle. And the

thing that, you know, I was actually talking with my son about this, you know, when we were kids, I'm pointing at both of you who come from parliamentary systems. When I was a kid, you know, growing up in this country, like you

knew that sometimes it was your guy in office and sometimes it was the other guy, right? That was kind of the extent

guy, right? That was kind of the extent of it. And if it was the other guy, your

of it. And if it was the other guy, your parents would complain about it at dinner. And if it was your guy, they'd

dinner. And if it was your guy, they'd say, "Everything's going fine." But the world is so much more complicated, right, in terms of who to believe, who to trust. Like, you know, I'm I'm a

to trust. Like, you know, I'm I'm a liberal progressive person and also I have these beliefs. Like, it feels so confusing. It feels really confusing.

confusing. It feels really confusing.

And I think a lot of this is there's intergenerational trauma and especially the regions of the world that kind of are lighting up. These are places that for thousands of years have had battles

and hatred and war. So it's like when you think about all of that compounded, it's very very complicated.

Yeah.

And very intense. And and and I'm with you. I don't like talking about this

you. I don't like talking about this kind of stuff.

You know, I end up doing it because it's part of the job. But but yeah, for me personally, I don't I don't I I can't focus on those areas for too long, right,

without feeling depleted. So I can go in and then I have to come out and I and I, you know, I I I I work more locally if you like with people and with their energy fields and

but you know this stuff this stuff I guess is meant to be happening otherwise it wouldn't be happening. So I also have to trust that.

Sure. And I also feel just as a human being, it's a really weird thing because there will be people who will watch this show and will go, "Well, Lee Harris said this." And I'm like, "Oh, I didn't

this." And I'm like, "Oh, I didn't actually. I was channeling." I'm not

actually. I was channeling." I'm not saying I disagree with them necessarily, but I also sometimes people want to shoot the messenger and I'm like, I I I

can't prove any of what was just said.

But I can tell you that after years and years of tracking them and years of them giving me examples in my personal life or examples in the world that I have then watched come true, like I'm like,

"Oh, okay." You know? So, so yeah, I I

"Oh, okay." You know? So, so yeah, I I think it's complicated for all of us. I

don't I I don't think there is an answer. And I think that's the hardest

answer. And I think that's the hardest part. Like, we're all wanting the

part. Like, we're all wanting the answer. And right now, it's more

answer. And right now, it's more complicated than it's ever been. And

it's heartbreaking as well. I think we should spend a little bit more time on the personal evolution and people who are coming into a sense of more hope, more optimism, more connection. And what

I was touching on on the personal narratives is that often as we begin to look at our narratives, begin to see, are they serving me? Are they true? We

begin to have more hope, more optimism, we start to see broader possibilities for ourselves. Maybe you can speak a

for ourselves. Maybe you can speak a little bit to some of the transformation that you see and some of the other messages the Z's have shared because that part of the channeling was really powerful.

Yeah, I mean everyone defines the word ego differently, but I I'll start with myself. Like I look back at who I was at

myself. Like I look back at who I was at 23 and how limited my mind, my feelings, my heart are compared to now. Things are

more ephemeral to me now. It doesn't

mean I don't have, you know, I still have my human personality. There are

still areas I have opinions or whatever.

But if I catch opinions now, I'm always reminded, oh, that's an opinion. Lee,

you know, so there's a I I hold a slightly looser framework than I used to. And I think people who

to. And I think people who do self-development work, whether it's through a spiritual lens like channeling, although I always advise if you're using channeling, make sure you're also doing personal development.

That's me. That's my my advocacy is for personal development and spirituality in tandem. There might be others who go,

tandem. There might be others who go, "Oh, no. I just deal with the spirit and

"Oh, no. I just deal with the spirit and I'm like, okay, that's not been my path, so I can't I can't confirm or deny." But

I do see a lot of people trying to use spirituality as a replacement for personal development. And I think the

personal development. And I think the two have to go hand inand because otherwise you can get lost in inspiration, you can bypass, you can get into magical thinking. Um, so for me,

some of the things that they've helped me with and that I see them help others with is you get clearer about who you are and why you're here. And you get to be able to live with a slightly more zoomed out perspective. They've the

biggest thing they've taught me is awareness. They've widened my awareness.

awareness. They've widened my awareness.

They've taken me from wow, what Jonathan said is really annoying to I say annoying things sometimes.

I'm using you as an example, but you've never annoyed me actually. Um,

not yet.

There's still time. Um,

wait for it.

Yeah.

But the the Yeah, they've taken me from that to feeling annoyance and then going, "Huh, what just happened here?"

And with that wider lens on everything, it's also helped me look at, for example, mainstream media was mentioned a lot.

I now can sniff emotional manipulation in an article.

There's someone I respect who recently wrote an article about a recent fallen spiritual teacher.

And this person wrote a really good article, but they had a one massive area of bias that they kept coming back to.

And there's nothing wrong with that, but I think you have to be able to find what's clean and what's pure and what is not telling me what to think or feel, but is inviting me to consider and what

is telling me what to think or feel. and

mainstream media is successful because it will give us some nuggets of truth and then it will go and now feel this about these people because of the way we write this sentence. So I think there's

a kind of spell that is breaking on earth for more of us around that stuff and that spell has to be broken so that we come back to who we are. Maybe what I just said is too abstract but I hope I described it.

No, that makes total sense. I'm curious

if you personally have more information about a question they kind of just said yes to without extrapolating on it that

the idea of earth having implications beyond earth itself like an experiment playing out here.

Yes. And the word experiment is a tricky one because when people hear that word they think that means that it's some cold clinical experiment and it doesn't.

So I understand the trickiness of that word but they have said that they have said that we are here as part of an experiment in consciousness. They said

Atlantis was an experiment in consciousness but it fell because of hubous ego and an over obsession with technology which is why it's coming

back. There's an energy of both Atlantis

back. There's an energy of both Atlantis and Lamoria returning now. So they've

spoken about that at various times, but yeah, you would probably I can't recall all the details because I I don't re listen to the channeling.

Yeah. Yeah.

So, um I hear it as it happens and there are certain things that peak my interest that I then reflect on for my own growth. But a lot of the time, like today, I'm in service

to what you two wanted to know. So I my job is to is to let you steer them where you want to go. or if I'm an intuitive and I'm working with you, my job is to

be an intuitive conduit for you.

Yeah. And I think that's also something that, you know, we need to keep in mind like this this is a public arena that we're doing this.

Well, you're also you're also because I know from hosting my own show, you're a bridge for your audience.

Totally.

So you two Yes. you're asking questions that feel true for you, but actually you're doing your job right when you've got one ear on the audience.

Totally. Um, what I will say is they were incredibly uh incredibly clear with you guys about some stuff.

They're a little bossy.

They're they're they're more they're morey they're more authoritative than I am, which I quite enjoy actually because I'm not normally quite so boom, but they are. So, um, yeah, it's kind of

are. So, um, yeah, it's kind of interesting. It's very interesting also

interesting. It's very interesting also to to watch you embody something that feels different from you, you know, like like you just said, like it's a different

tone, right? It's a different

tone, right? It's a different Yes, it's different.

And this is an interesting because I've got you here who is, you know, a well-known actor on the planet. One of

the things one of the things that I've I've I'm galactically known.

I'm sure you were sent from another planet. I

wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah. Um, what I was going to say is I've sometimes you one of the criticisms that gets leveled at you as a channeler is they go, "Oh, well this guy is an

actor and why I was um why I always find that funny because I did act as a child.

I could do a way better job."

Meaning I would make it far more interesting and you know what? So, so I more jokes like what?

Oh yeah. I don't know. I just

You could do more doom and gloom. You

could, you know, my my point is my point is it I understand why people can't get their head around

what might look like someone faking something. But honestly, if I was smart,

something. But honestly, if I was smart, I wouldn't even tell you about the Z's existence and I would sit here and very calmly say everything they said and you'd be like, "Wow, who is this wise

galactic being?" So that criticism often

galactic being?" So that criticism often gets leveled, but I, you know, you could make it way more uh interesting. If you

needed to pretend to be a thing, you could pretend in a more interesting way.

I don't think it's very interesting to have someone sit there closing their eyes and moving their head. You know

what I mean? It's kind of a bit embarrassing.

More hand gestures. You can move around or just, you know, a more interesting accent or something. I don't know. But

my my point is I I I so have compassion for the people who say that because when I was taken to a channeler before it happened to me like a year before it happened to me I was taken to this channeler. I may have even said this to

channeler. I may have even said this to you on the last show I don't remember. I

was skeptical of him but he was he was a really nice man and he had good and and then he had all this interesting intuitive information.

You did say and you said something to the the effect of like why did he have to put on I did cuz I was driving home with my friend who' taken me and I said well he's clearly intuitive. He's clearly a nice man. I liked him and his wife. Why

nice man. I liked him and his wife. Why

did he have to put that whole thing on for me?

And now I'm like oh god I'm now that guy for any other skeptic. You know what I mean? But that's also been healthy for

mean? But that's also been healthy for me to I've had to lean into Yeah.

Everyone is projecting on everyone all the time. And and coming from the family

the time. And and coming from the family I come from where we were trained to not do anything that might make the neighbors like what might the neighbors think? I'm like oh Jesus what am I

think? I'm like oh Jesus what am I doing? You know what I mean? But it's

doing? You know what I mean? But it's

that's actually been growth for me because it's got me out of the fear or the you know I mean don't get me wrong I wasn't thrilled I was coming here today but I said yes. But I knew that today

was probably going to be more intense.

So, it's not like I'm like, "Oh, great.

I can't wait to go and channel on a show." No, that's not my reality.

show." No, that's not my reality.

Tell us a little bit about what you go through when you have that hesitation come up because my name and face is being put to all of this.

Yeah.

And so, you know, there can be attack.

There could, you know, am I safe? You

know, you go through all of those things and I've gone through all of those things all along. Um, but but yeah, it's it's a weird thing because it's a hard thing to stand for because you can't

trust all of humanity to treat you well.

You just can't. And I mean, you know that and I've experienced that. And

people will treat you, especially if you're whether you know you're a public figure or you're known for something, people don't treat you well. So, the

sensitive side of me has to walk around the world and kind of brace for that.

You know, most people are lovely.

Do you get recognized a lot? Uh, I do when I go I I I have a very local life and I like it that way, but when I go to bigger places, especially if I'm not wearing a hat, yes. But I wear a hat a lot of the time. So,

yeah.

Um, one of the questions we get the most is about how to access intuition. Mhm.

People either have information, dreams, emotions that they aren't sure how to process or they're trying to increase their ability to navigate the world from an emotional standpoint. Can you talk a

little bit about just some of the teachings in your experience on what you would say to someone if they're like, "Are there more senses? I have my own opinion. Can I develop my intuition? How

opinion. Can I develop my intuition? How

do I know if I'm being guided by fear or if I'm being guided by something that is trying to move me in a direction of forward?

So my first response would be, do you understand yourself yet?

Do you know what scares you? Do you know what lights you up? Because a lot of people don't. And so they'll go towards

people don't. And so they'll go towards intuition or towards spirituality to try and escape their human life, their human ego. And then they're just as confused

ego. And then they're just as confused about is this fear or is this intuition because they haven't done whether it's therapy counseling workshops self-study videos. They haven't, which

self-study videos. They haven't, which is why I always say you've got to you've got to look. We we all have a bag of stuff, you know, that we that until we investigate that bag of stuff, we'll be

living like we're that bag of stuff.

When we've investigated it a bit, we can go, "Oh, oh, I'm getting triggered now."

And if you don't have that, you're going to be more prone to all the triggers that are out there in the world and you're going to just get sucked in and think you're too poorest.

And this is why some people will say, and less so now, but you know, years ago, understandably, people go, "Oh, spiritual people are crazy." And it's like, well, maybe you met John who isn't

very balanced as a human being and has gone to spirituality and is now an imbalanced spiritual seeker. And so you have equated John, your most hippie spiritual friend, as oh that's what

spiritual looks like. No thanks. It's

not John's fault. John just hasn't yet done the work or had the reflection or had the learning. He may have escaped into spirituality and it will work for him until it doesn't.

He's not our best representative.

No. And I And so intuition to me is a is a sense that we all have way more than we think we do. like you get a gut feeling about someone or you meet someone and you stand back at first and it could be that you're afraid of them

because they're they're going to challenge your worldview or they're going to be something new to open in you or it could be you're afraid of them because you should be because this this is this person is not going to be good

for you. This is why I always say

for you. This is why I always say intuition is a learning. It's not a happening. So intuition is not a

happening. So intuition is not a happening that one day you're just really intuitive and you can rely on it accurately. You have to study. You have

accurately. You have to study. You have

to study your own intuition over a period of time. Make observations about when following your intuition helped you, when it hindered you. Be honest

with yourself about your own programming and and how clear you are about that.

Which is why I'm an advocate for personal development. And it's why I

personal development. And it's why I won't be a channeler only. I was adamant when I started this work because many people wanted me to just channel and not

do the energy teaching I do. But no, we need at least for me, I'm I my role is to bridge those two worlds. So I bring channeling into my work, but I also hold space for personal growth and personal

development. There are brilliant

development. There are brilliant channelers out there who just do the channeling, and there are brilliant personal growth people out there who just do that. We're all different. We're

all made differently.

Um we we spoke to Daryl Anka, um Bashar.

Do you all know each other?

I'm saying like, do the Z's know Bashar?

Uh yes.

Oh, yeah. But I didn't know that. But

that makes sense to me. Um because if you think about it, it's it's all much more known up there. Um but yeah, I know some of the channelers who are out there. I've known some of them

there. I've known some of them personally. I'm I'm friends with some or

personally. I'm I'm friends with some or have had friendships at periods with some.

Do you let your guides talk to each other?

I've never done that. The first thing I would do like poker would see what happens.

Hang on. Hang on. What would they want to ask each other on the level of human words? It's

words? It's they can have way faster conversations without going through this translation system. So I would say

system. So I would say but it's like a talk show panel. You

have different you know a friend of mine called Wendy Kennedy who's a great channeler of the Plleadenss. Um, she and I used to do

Plleadenss. Um, she and I used to do events together and I know she's also collaborated with other people where we would kind of be on a panel, you know, there's the channel panel. They uh

channel panel.

Yeah. Which is a great term, right? Rob

Goautier organizes these wonderful panels of people. They do events. I've

been part of past ones. They've got

Daryl has done those. That's where I met Daryl backstage once. Yeah. and they

just offer a little bit of a different perspective because I would imagine they're each representing either a different timeline or a slightly different part of the intergalactic experience. And so you're getting a

experience. And so you're getting a little bit of a different different perspective.

Yes. It's like not every you know Tony Robbins isn't for everybody. Mel Robbins

isn't for everybody. Yeah. But different

people are for you know we're all you know like we all have different friends you know it's it's the same kind of breadth if you like but it's different voices different flavors different um

leanings le the after our last podcast we got to see you at your house and we got to meet your mother and the best part about doing the

podcast was your mother came up to us and said thank you so much for that episode because I now understand what Lee does better than I ever have before.

And I thanked you because first of all, I couldn't believe my mom sat through a 2-hour interview and she said she couldn't stop watching. So, I that really shocked me. Um, and secondly, she

did. She was very moved. And I think I

did. She was very moved. And I think I think because you guys asked more mainstream questions and even I when I was with you was having to think quite

quickly because I was I'm often in more of an echo chamber where certain terminology is known. Um, so it was even for me I was having to think on my feet to answer some of your questions to meet you in the middle

and um I was channeling your mother.

Yeah. Yeah. No, she she was very grateful. So, thank you.

grateful. So, thank you.

Well, I want to shout out your mom. I

hope she's listened to this episode.

Amazing. My mom is amazing and thank God for her.

Thank God for her.

Thank you for coming back and for me.

She'll know even more about you this time.

I don't know if I want her to watch this one. This one might be a bit much. I

one. This one might be a bit much. I

don't know. I it's not my job to get in the way, but um please tell people um as we've talked about um you have a tour coming up. Tell

people also about your amazing retreat in Santa Barbara.

Yes. So, we are doing a six-day retreat called Soul Magic in Santa Barbara in August. We've done these retreats for

August. We've done these retreats for about a decade and they're really transformative, not just because of what we bring from the stage, myself and my musical partner D'vor Bozique, um but also because of the community that

gather. And you know when you go through

gather. And you know when you go through a six-day process.

So we have that in Santa Barbara, but D'Vor and I are also going on tour.

We're doing 16 cities across North America starting May 30th in LA and running through July 4th in Canada. Um

and then we're going to the UK, Europe, and Scandinavia for 10 dates in October.

Um because I'm conscious not everyone can do a retreat, but we're coming to as many cities as we can uh for anyone who wants to come and have a three-hour experience with me, with the channeling,

with some of our music, with the energy teaching. And I always at all of our

teaching. And I always at all of our live events, I intuit it for the room.

So, it's not a lecture. The day before or the night of, I will start to get themes of who is in that room, what do they need to hear, what are the themes that we're working on. So, it's it's it's it's my way of being able to work

live with people because obviously we reach a lot of people online, but you can't beat the in-person experience, which is why we'll be on a lot of flights and hotel rooms this year.

Amazing. And where can people find out more?

So, it's leeharrisenergy.com is my website and my channel on YouTube is Lee Harrisen Energy.

Fantastic. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

He says that in the next five years, we're going to see a positive change in humanity that I don't know how to describe it.

I think it's very consistent with what Bashar spoke when we had Daryl Anka on.

There's some period of time that we're in the middle of. And I know a lot of people might say like, oh, every generation says that. But when you think about the changes in technology that we have witnessed in the last 5 years, in

the last you know since co right there's been this explosion of skepticism an explosion of information there's been an explosion of technology and there's been

an explosion of questioning and whether that questioning is was my president lying to me or was this group wrong to you know campaign for this the the truth

is it really is it's about kind of our future and I really love this emphasis on personal growth, personal work, and not just sort of turning everything over to the spiritual universe. You have to also do the work yourself.

I love what he says that doing the spiritual work helps you be a barometer of what's true and what's not, right?

Like we can't know how we're being impacted. We could be sucked into

impacted. We could be sucked into narratives just because we're addicted to a cycle of being in volatility. Um,

you can see Lee Harris on his oneness experience tour across North America in the spring and summer. Go to

leeharrisenergy.com/breakdown

for tickets. Um, and also for the soulmagic retreat, leeharrisenergy.com.

Um, and you can find out all the information about the retreat in Santa Barbara. Um, thank you to the Z's for

Barbara. Um, thank you to the Z's for joining us and from our breakdown to the one we hope you never have. We'll see

you next time.

It's my breakdown. She's going to break it down for you. She's got a neuroscience PhD or two fiction. And now

she's going to break down. So break

down. She's going to break it down.