George Hotz | Just Chatting | microstream: laptop olympics opening ceremony | testing laptops

Welcome to the laptop Olympics opening ceremony.

Uh, all right. We're going to we're going to give you guys a minute. I'm

going to go get a get a get a drink. But

we're hosting the laptop Olympics. Just

the opening ceremony. You get what I mean by opening ceremony. All the

laptops are closed. So, we're going to open them. And it's brought to you by

open them. And it's brought to you by this dirty microfiber cloth. Okay. If

anyone wants to be a real sponsor, uh, contact me at, uh, george, don't contact me. You'll piss me off.

Like, like, I really want to advertise for someone who doesn't want to be advertised for. Remember that time that

advertised for. Remember that time that Jay-Z was drinking the champagne? You

know what? What champagne was he drinking? Uh, you know, um, Sha Don or

drinking? Uh, you know, um, Sha Don or something. Crystalall. And then he

something. Crystalall. And then he pissed off the Crystalall guy. And the

crystal guy said, "We don't want those kind of people drinking our champagne."

And then like sales plummeted. That is

what I want to do to a brand. So

whatever brand doesn't want to be associated with me, that is the brand that I'd love to shill for in this stream. Welcome to the laptop Olympics

stream. Welcome to the laptop Olympics opening ceremony. Look at this. This is

opening ceremony. Look at this. This is

production. I got two cameras. That's

production boys.

All right, let's go get some To clarify that story, I want to be like Jay-Z, not like the lame ass French champagne guy. We only gatekeep

champagne guy. We only gatekeep programming. We don't gatekeep bullshit

programming. We don't gatekeep bullshit like overpriced crushed grapes. All

right, we don't even really gatekeep programming. Anybody can participate,

programming. Anybody can participate, but you have to have skills. You see,

that doesn't mean anybody can participate right now. You got to practice your skills. You can't just show up and not have practiced your skills and expect anyone to respect you.

You got to earn respect.

Okay.

Some of them were charged, some of them weren't. They're plugged here into this

weren't. They're plugged here into this anchor charger. See if we can see it

anchor charger. See if we can see it here on the little screen.

All right. We got 118 watts of draw.

Most of it coming from that MacBook over there.

>> [sighs] >> Um, hi from Somalia. What's up? You really

in Somalia right now? How is that place?

I hear it's like the hood like No, like the but not like the hood like you know like the hood that like Will Mabu did the song in. I'm talking about like the hood hood. [snorts]

hood hood. [snorts] All right. When will we who will we get

All right. When will we who will we get for the laptop Olympics halftime show?

But we can't play Taylor Swift because that shit's hella copyrighted.

Man, I really am the best ad for Highball Energy, but they would want to be associated with me. Who would be upset if I was shilling their brand? I

don't even think Rolls-Royce would be upset.

Uh, why does so many AI slop startups these days? Yeah, Sony might be upset. Yo, you

days? Yeah, Sony might be upset. Yo, you

want to like take apart a Sony and try to trigger them? I don't think they care. You think anyone's left at Sony

care. You think anyone's left at Sony who gives a shit about me? No.

Definitely not.

All right. It's too hot in this sweatshirt. We need better merch. Okay.

sweatshirt. We need better merch. Okay.

This is a lame old comma shirt. We're

getting better merch. We're going to up our merch game. Our merch is overpriced and bad. It's about to be overpriced and

and bad. It's about to be overpriced and good.

Okay. Um

Oh my god. I need I need a camera guy.

Okay.

Uh I got a spin drift right here. This

is spin drift and we're double fisting.

Yeah, double fisting.

Okay.

Um, Apple might be upset. I don't think Apple cares.

Um okay.

So, let's introduce the contestants.

We're going to try holding this camera.

All right. If you don't like my videography, you can blame the videographer guy. Okay.

videographer guy. Okay.

On the right, on the left here, [gasps] we have a MacBook M1 Max Pro

M1 Max. MacBook Pro M1 Max

M1 Max. MacBook Pro M1 Max 2021 running Asah Linux or at least last time I checked, which was probably many years

ago. I don't think I've opened this

ago. I don't think I've opened this laptop for a long time. Okay, can we get a round of applause for the MacBook, everybody? Round of applause for the

everybody? Round of applause for the MacBook.

Oh MacBook.

Oh, it really doesn't want to open.

Okay. Well, doesn't want to open. Come

on. You're in the Olympics. It's good.

It's good. All right. All right. It's

dirty. That's why we have our dirty microfiber cloth. Oh, why did it boot

microfiber cloth. Oh, why did it boot into Mac OS?

Okay. Well, it booted into Mac OS.

Great.

Okay, the MacBook.

Um, now introducing the It's booted. Look, it booted. Look

at that. Look at that. No backlight,

please. Look at this. Look at this quality display. Look at this. Look at

quality display. Look at this. Look at

this quality display. Isn't these like fingerprints? Like, you can't compete.

fingerprints? Like, you can't compete.

This is the oldest laptop of the bunch, by the way. You know, look how there's no backlight bleed at all. And it's

dirty. It sat under my bed for a long time. Okay, introducing

time. Okay, introducing the second contender, the ThinkPad X1 Carbon.

Is there an on button?

Ah, here we go. Right on the side here, very conveniently located. Coming in

with that beautiful keyboard backlight.

It has a stunning OLED screen. This

laptop costs way too much money for how crappy it is. It's a Lenovo.

It has less power than a Zfold 5. Let me

just enter the password over here and make sure you guys actually can't see the password. Okay, we're good.

the password. Okay, we're good.

Oh god, I don't actually remember the password.

Okay. Well, we have a password that we do not remember. Uh, we're going to have to format this and put Omarie on it.

Fortunately, it comes with a USBA port.

A convenient USBA port. In fact, the MacBook here is the only one without a USBA port. Let's see if we can log into

USBA port. Let's see if we can log into that one. Do we know the password to the

that one. Do we know the password to the MacBook?

Oh my god, I haven't logged into this computer in so long. Probably has

vulnerabilities. Sweet. We know the password to the MacBook. Uh, maximum

number of tries exceeded. All right,

let's try this one more time.

We legitimately have no idea what the password is to this. And this thing's opening lots of weird crap. Okay.

Our third contender. Don't download

updates for Discord. Please don't. No.

No. No. Close. Close. Close. Close.

Okay. Okay. Great. All right. Great. Our

third contender. Oh, yes. I forgot to introduce the ThinkPad Carbon is the only contender with a throwback to the '9s. The clit mouse. Look at that. Look

'9s. The clit mouse. Look at that. Look

at that. So neck beards can pleasure their laptop. Well, they pleasure

their laptop. Well, they pleasure themselves. It's a ThinkPad X1 Carbon.

themselves. It's a ThinkPad X1 Carbon.

ThinkPad X1 Carbon. It also does have a have a touchpad, but we don't remember the password. And right now that OLED is

the password. And right now that OLED is just screen burning. So yeah, we're going to have to install our marchie on that guy.

Okay, this is the framework 16, the newest contender in all of the

laptops. Uh, it has a screen that gives

laptops. Uh, it has a screen that gives me flashbacks to high school, my Dell laptop in high school with the back light bleed with the single CCFL tube or

something. I don't even know if it's

something. I don't even know if it's LED. Uh, yeah, check out that no

LED. Uh, yeah, check out that no keyboard. It is the cleanest of the

keyboard. It is the cleanest of the laptops because it is the newest and I do remember the password to this one.

Maybe. I think so. I typed it in yesterday. Okay, great. And we are on

yesterday. Okay, great. And we are on Omari on the framework 17. Uh, which of these is? There's the

17. Uh, which of these is? There's the

That's the maximum brightness it gets to. Oh, this is installing some stupid

to. Oh, this is installing some stupid firewall. I'll just post so many

firewall. I'll just post so many vulnerabilities in this. Look at how beautiful that black MacBook screen is.

Can we Can we Can we hear a round of applause for mini LED technology, OLED technology, and backlight from 2004 technology? Also, why? Look at how

technology? Also, why? Look at how shitty it is. Look at how it's reflecting the light. There's something

wrong with this. Like like because I see that in person, too. This one doesn't reflect the light. This one reflects everything. And this one has a huge blob

everything. And this one has a huge blob where the light is. Okay. And last, but certainly not least with more names than

a Mexican, the HP ZBook Ultra G1A 14in stricks Halo Edition. It's this laptop. This is

Edition. It's this laptop. This is

actually the laptop that I've been using and it'll unlock conveniently with my fingerprint right here. Okay. It also

has an OLED screen, 14 in, 75Wh hour battery. It has a clear contender to be

battery. It has a clear contender to be the top laptop here. It does

unfortunately have more branding than a rally car on Sunday. You can see the Zbook and this I don't know if that's supposed to be AI.

Also, if we go over on the side here, you'll see that it says Poly Studio upside down for no reason. And it also has HP right there. So, we will have to

rate this laptop as not classy. HP,

could you please make a classy laptop for classy people? This is a classy laptop for classy people. Okay, welcome

to the laptop Olympics, everybody. If

you're just joining us, we have a MacBook Pro M1 Max. We have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon that costs way too much money and has less computing power than a Zold

7. Yes, this has more computing power

7. Yes, this has more computing power than this. What a dog shit processor. We

than this. What a dog shit processor. We

have the Framework laptop and we have the HP uh stricks Halo blah blah blah. Okay,

sorry for offending your culture, HP. Oh

yes, and then of course over here we have the MacBook that we're streaming on for people who actually want to do work.

Okay, great. Um, let's first try the torque test. The way the torque test

torque test. The way the torque test works, we place the camera here, we place my hands here, and we flex the monitor. Notice how easily the laptop

monitor. Notice how easily the laptop rotates with no flex. We are going to give this nine torqus out of 10. Okay,

that's pretty good. It's pretty good entry in the in the laptop Olympics. A

16-inch MacBook Pro passes the torque test. Let's move over here to the X1

test. Let's move over here to the X1 Carbon and do the same thing. Okay,

let's see. Oh, it's pretty good. You see

a little bit of flex in the panel. So,

we're going to give that one a 9 out of 10. And we're going to give this one a

10. And we're going to give this one a seven out of 10. I can see a little bit of visible flex in the panel. Okay,

great. Now, on the framework 16, we are going to try the torque test. Ooh. Ooh.

Yeah. Ooh. I feel like I'm going to crack the screen if I keep doing this.

We are going to give the framework a two out of 10. Would not lie it on the side in your bed.

And for the HP, we're going to give it a Oh, that's pretty good. That's pretty

good. We're going to give it the same nine out of 10 we gave the MacBook. So,

if we can just zoom out here and see the scores. That's a nine, a seven, a three,

scores. That's a nine, a seven, a three, and a nine.

All right, welcome to the torque test.

Okay, let's do the install Omari test.

Uh, this one is only for that laptop.

And we have to go find that stupid driver we used yesterday.

The Oh yes, we should talk about the processors that they're rocking. This

one, of course, has a M1 Max. This has a Intel dog shit. This has an AMD stricks point and this has an AMD stricks Halo.

Let's install Omari on this one. And

that one took about two minutes to install Omari. So, let's plug it into

install Omari. So, let's plug it into the convenient USBA port. Good thing we don't have to do this on the Mac because that one does not have a convenient USBA port. All right, USBA. I forgot it can

port. All right, USBA. I forgot it can be plugged in upside down. And of

course, you will get it upside down every time. All right, let's turn this

every time. All right, let's turn this off and on again.

Is it going to boot?

We have to disable secure boot again.

Okay, it does not want to turn off. I'm

holding the button, guys. You see me holding the button.

M control delete. Control delete seem to

control delete. Control delete seem to work. Let's use the dirty microfiber

work. Let's use the dirty microfiber cloth to wipe some of the dirt off of this screen. The screen does not come

this screen. The screen does not come dirty unfortunately.

Let's interrupt normal startup. Okay,

let's give this Let's rate this BIOS.

Okay. Yeah, pause.

Um, okay. Well, good thing we can show the asset information and the regulator information.

Uh, let's choose a temporary startup device.

Okay. Boot menu. Tab.

No.

Enter.

Oh, there we go. USB HDD.

Okay, let's go. Will it install? Omari.

Will it install?

That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

By the way, check out how there's no backlight bleed down here on this beautiful OLED screen. It does

definitely have that going for it.

English username.

We'll use a throwaway password again.

One I actually remember. Yeah, let's go.

Host name.

Think Pad again. We're going to have to scroll

again. We're going to have to scroll down. If anyone is using this in Africa,

down. If anyone is using this in Africa, blah blah. Uh, okay. NVME

blah blah. Uh, okay. NVME

format disc. Bye-bye. Whatever was on that laptop, we'll never need to know.

This is running the beautiful Omar. LOOK

AT HOW MUCH GLARE THAT IS. That glare is real, guys. That's terrible.

real, guys. That's terrible.

It's terrible. The, you know, the screen isn't even that bad. The colors are actually fine, but what's so messed up about it is like this is like normal office fluorescent lights. And notice

how you don't see that on any of the other laptops. You don't see it here.

other laptops. You don't see it here.

You don't see it here. You see something else here, but that's like less of a problem. That's not that great either,

problem. That's not that great either, actually. I would think the uh the

actually. I would think the uh the ThinkPad with the matte OLED is definitely the best. Like you can kind of see like there, I'm really trying to get that reflection in there. You like

kind of see it, but it's like barely reflected. This one's super LOOK AT

reflected. This one's super LOOK AT THAT. LOOK AT THAT. UNUSABLE.

THAT. LOOK AT THAT. UNUSABLE.

UH, the HP is glossy. So, these have the downside of

glossy. So, these have the downside of glossy, but you know, whatever.

Isn't the ThinkPad tilted different? No,

they're tilted the same. Try take it through a full degrees of tilt. I mean, that's the window now reflecting, but the ThinkPad

like it just it's so the the it's unusable. It's really like the frame.

unusable. It's really like the frame.

It's not even the LCD. It's whatever

they used in the polarizer on this thing. Um, they need to get the

thing. Um, they need to get the polarizer technology from the other laptops. Okay. Let's proceed with

laptops. Okay. Let's proceed with installation.

All right.

What gen X1C is this? It's a Ultra 155H.

All right. Let's go over here, guys.

It's impossible to look at. Look at that glare. Look at that glaring glare.

glare. Look at that glaring glare.

Let's first go over here to Stricks Halo. Let's try the Tiny Grad GPU burn

Halo. Let's try the Tiny Grad GPU burn test. All right, let's check. By the

test. All right, let's check. By the

way, this has a touch screen. So, we can go here to balanced.

No, that doesn't work, but sort of works. Let's check out master.

works. Let's check out master.

Oh, we got third debug equals two on there so we can actually see it.

Okay, so this is GPU burning on here.

You can see that we're getting six teraflops.

See down there? Oh no, now it's boosted.

Something in the AMD SMU finally kicked in and now we're getting 11 teraflops.

Okay, so that's 11 teraflops from the uh from the HP Stricks Halo. Let's also

listen for fan noise.

No fan noise. That's pretty good. What's

our power draw right now?

We're pulling 40 watts off the chip, which is actually the most you can pull in balanced power mode. See that 40 right there?

Okay.

By the way, you can all see the real winner of the laptop Olympics already sitting up there. That's my M3 Max MacBook that I'm streaming to you on.

Try the performance governor. We should

keep them all balanced cuz we're going to do this one balanced, too. We can't

test them all. We don't have enough budget for that. If anyone wants to sponsor the laptop Olympics, we're always looking for sponsors. Oh, yeah. I

was trying to turn on the LED backlight.

All right, let's go over here to Tiny.

Check out master. Let's get pull.

I forgot control isn't okay. Installed

in 2 minutes 20 seconds. So, even with that dog shit Intel processor, it did about the same speed as the framework.

is a little slow, I think. I forget what it was yesterday. We can check the stream. Let's [snorts] boot that into

stream. Let's [snorts] boot that into March. All right. Could not resolve

March. All right. Could not resolve hostgithub.com.

hostgithub.com.

All right, we should be Yeah, we're connected to the Wi-Fi now. That's a

homearchy issue. All right, great. GPUs

equals 1. Python path equals this. Debug

equals 2. Python 3 extra GPU burn. Let's

make sure that we're set to balanced because we're doing balanced on all of them.

Um, AMD LVM equals 1. You got to just know the magic flags of tiny grid. Okay,

give it a minute to warm up.

And we are getting 3.8 teraflops over here with stricks 11. By the way, that's been going this

11. By the way, that's been going this whole time. Have you heard any noise

whole time. Have you heard any noise from this laptop? I thought the framework thermals were pretty good, but the HP thermals are actually sick. I

don't know what was throttling up in a game.

Um, you can hear it a little if you listen to the fan. All right,

the third contender right over here.

All right, let's log in to the wifi.

By the way, how nice is it that Omari just works. It has a real password. So,

just works. It has a real password. So,

again, I'm gonna move you over there.

By the way, this is like half an ad for Tiny. Okay, we pulled the latest Tiny on

Tiny. Okay, we pulled the latest Tiny on this MacBook.

Let's run the same example. Do I also have Azytop?

I don't have Azytop. Um, oh, Brew is going to like update everything, isn't it? By the way, could we just give a

it? By the way, could we just give a shout out to the absolute stunning quality of this laptop screen? Even

though this laptop is the oldest of all of them, and it's still trying to tell me to get more from my Mac.

[sighs] All right, which laptops are we hearing now?

Quiet. Quiet. Good. Good. Framework's

good on the on the thermals. See what

we're actually pulling right now.

38 watts. That's pretty good, actually.

38 watts and pretty much dead silence.

This is finally warmed up a little bit.

And we can hear a little bit of fan noise coming out of the HP. Um, I will remind you that this is doing 3x the performance of that.

All right. Uh, great. We installed Azy top and it like did stuff.

Cool. Um, by the way, can we just give a shout out to Apple's incredibly low idle power? This thing is idling at 6 watts.

power? This thing is idling at 6 watts.

This is the oldest laptop of the bunch.

And I really must say none of you guys come close. This is It's so sad. It's so

come close. This is It's so sad. It's so

sad how Apple is kicking all your asses with an old ass laptop. I would say that this uh the password got to hide. It's not even a real password. I don't know why I'm

trying to hide it, but you guys are freaking me out about that. Um,

someone's going to hack sore my box.

Let's unplug this USB drive. You don't

get an unfair advantage anymore.

ThinkPad. All right,

the framework's still going along in almost dead silence, which is pretty cool. Uh, this thing is losing power

cool. Uh, this thing is losing power real fast. So, I'm just going to swap

real fast. So, I'm just going to swap around some wires here.

Um, one watt. But that's terrible. It's not

one watt. But that's terrible. It's not

charging.

It's not charging. Probably because this wire isn't rated for like PD bullshit.

All right. I heard this about the HP that it only charges if you have a adapter that's capable of doing 100 watts. So, we're just going to do a

watts. So, we're just going to do a little switcheroos over here.

Anchor. Let's see if that charges.

Still only pulling one watt. If it

doesn't charge with that, it doesn't charge with anything. I actually have the charger for that laptop with me. Why

is that only pulling one watt?

You're not looking good in the laptop Olympics. I was rooting for you. Why

Olympics. I was rooting for you. Why

aren't you charging?

Still not charge.

This is one watt.

It's terrible.

All right, we'll have to get out the HP power brick. Wherever it is.

power brick. Wherever it is.

Where's the HP power brick?

All right, this is the off one watt C2 over here. That guy's drawing 42 watts. All right, here's the HP power

watts. All right, here's the HP power brick.

See this 140 bullshit watts?

I don't know which one's plugged into the A.

Which one did I give the terrible one to? Oh, the framework. That's not

to? Oh, the framework. That's not

charging either, but that's expect.

That's reasonable. Wait, that's insane that that won't charge.

[snorts] All right, let's plug in this.

Plug that. Plug in this.

Is that going to make it charge?

Okay. HP gets a three for power adapter compatibility.

Yeah, framework charges right up. Okay.

Is it charging now that I plugged in the HP adapter? It really only charges with

HP adapter? It really only charges with the original adapter. That is terrible.

That is terrible. That that that like the How many? Oh, but it went up 14 teraflops now that we've plugged it in.

Even though that shouldn't really do anything, but whatever.

Okay. [sighs]

14 teraflops now that it's properly been plugged in.

Oh, but now I hear the fan noise.

Okay, let's install Tiny over here. Get

clone httponegithub.com/tinyiggradin.

This is Tiny on a brand new install of Omari Linux.

It takes way too long to clone. We need

to fix that. Oh, let's go over here and get that GPU burn test going. GPU is

equals 1. Python 3 examples GP.

Let's put that screen. Wow, that's the nicest screen. Apple really has the

nicest screen. Apple really has the nicest screens. Like, it is nicer than

nicest screens. Like, it is nicer than the OLEDs, actually. I think the OLED is nice, too, though. I mean, this is this is a nice screen. We should we should wipe it off a little bit to do it

justice. It's also a touchcreen.

justice. It's also a touchcreen.

Ah, the judges have a bias towards this HPZbook.

I wanted to be good. Um, what did I want to show you? I wanted to show you something on here. I can't believe it didn't

on here. I can't believe it didn't charge with the anchor charger.

All right, let's check out this guy.

An old T-Max. Whatever.

Um, Python 3. All right, we have Python 3. Python path equals that. GPUs equals

3. Python path equals that. GPUs equals

one. By the way, notice how Tiny Grad needs no install at all. I just clit.

Let's see if it works. GPUs equals 1.

Debugals 2, Python 3, extra GPU burn.

Oh, and that's on CPU.

Okay, that's pretty mediocre.

The blacks on that Mac are blacker than my monitor. Yeah, I know.

my monitor. Yeah, I know.

The Mac is still the best. It's the

oldest of the laptops. HP, you're

starting to make noise.

Framework's starting to make noise, too.

And this guy is still trying to use its pathetic little CPU to do something. We

can see why Open CL didn't get installed in a minute. Probably have to install six Intel packages.

Still over here purring along at a pretty beautiful 14 teraflops though. Um

oh, we have an entry from the ThinkPad here running on the CPU. It got 11 gigaflops.

11 gigaflops. So over there that's a 1000x faster than that. I actually think my phone is faster than this. Uh, but to be fair, it's not using the GPU, so we can give it a chance. We can give it a chance. It's trying to compete with one

chance. It's trying to compete with one leg behind its back, and we like everything to be fair. Okay. And GPU

burn is up on the Mac. And the Mac is GPU burning at 7.7 teraflop. So, it's about half a

7.7 teraflop. So, it's about half a stricks halo. This is the first laptop

stricks halo. This is the first laptop I've seen be competitive with anything.

This still does have the best memory bandwidth, though. Let's just zoom out

bandwidth, though. Let's just zoom out here for the uh pan shot.

Oh, it's going. It's trying. It's

trying.

Um, this gets this gets minus one point to anything for not charging on the anchor power adapter. I I can't I'm not lugging around that HP brick. If this

thing doesn't charge from normal ass shit. Like, come on, HP. Really? I love

shit. Like, come on, HP. Really? I love

these little anchor bricks.

Look at that touch panel. Adds those

great things to the thing when you touch it. W cinematography. Thank you. Thank

it. W cinematography. Thank you. Thank

you. All right. All right. We got a new entry here. That is six jigoflops.

entry here. That is six jigoflops.

All right. Fine. Let's make it use the GPU. It did get It is the only one that

GPU. It did get It is the only one that got reformatted on this stream. So, you

know, we have to be fair. The AMD ones did just work out of the box, though.

Let's see what we can do.

Should we try to use the HDMI capture card? That's not what the X1 is for. I'm

card? That's not what the X1 is for. I'm

holding it wrong.

Okay. All right. Let's see if we can fix the uh first. Let me get pseudo list password

first. Let me get pseudo list password on here. Pseudo vi pseudo.

on here. Pseudo vi pseudo.

Oh no, but this is I hate when No, no, there's actually some bullshit way to do this in Omari.

Sudors.d

Oh, but now it doesn't have that.

Pseudoedit pseudo.d0000

light.

No password at all.

And we're still messing up. Okay. Oh,

it's downloading Treesitter. Everybody

let it download Trees.

Got to download Treesitter.

Okay. And the MacBook has the most silentest fans. The HP, you're starting

silentest fans. The HP, you're starting to hear them. Let's see how much power it's pulling now. Oh, we got that up to 60 watts. Even though I'm still

60 watts. Even though I'm still supposedly on balanced.

Let's check rise and adjust.

Yeah. Okay. PPT limit slow is 40.

Why is this Oh, no. It went to 60. Okay. Let's set

Oh, no. It went to 60. Okay. Let's set

it to 40. Slow

limit 40.

No, wrong 40.

That really tanked the power.

Okay, now it's back to 40 watts.

This is You know what? Let's set it to 38 so it's really competitive with the uh so it's using the same power as a framework, right? We got a we got a

framework, right? We got a we got a power Yeah. Uh this just again shows like why

Yeah. Uh this just again shows like why would you have a strict point when for the same power is the power. I mean it doesn't look like framework has a lot of sensors

here. 36 watts. I'll put this down to 36

here. 36 watts. I'll put this down to 36 watts.

And let's confirm it's actually drawing 36. Okay. So we're actually here drawing

36. Okay. So we're actually here drawing 36.

Uh, at 36 watts, we're getting 10.6 teraflops. Wait, no. No, now it's going

teraflops. Wait, no. No, now it's going back up. Stop it. Bad computer. Okay, we

back up. Stop it. Bad computer. Okay, we

get 10 teraflops at 36 watts versus 3.8 teraflops at 36 watts. All right, this is still downloading tree sitter.

Oh god. All right, do I have passwordless pseudo now? I do. Great.

All right. yay- s info.

Let's figure out how to get Open CL working. Okay, we don't have OpenCL. Uh

working. Okay, we don't have OpenCL. Uh

LSPCI.

You like my uh Okay, it's Meteor Lake.

Um waiting for elephant.

Where's my elephant?

This is the slowest laptop I've ever used.

My god.

I think this is just broken actually.

Let's give it a reboot.

All right, we got rid of waiting for elephant gray.

Meteor lake open cl lit arch install. I

need that AI shit. Come on, give me the AI shit. Oh, here we go. Level zero.

AI shit. Oh, here we go. Level zero.

Uh, Intel compute runtime.

Let's just try yay- s Intel compute runtime OLICD.

All right, let's download. All right,

that might have not been the laptop that slow.

Do we have working open CL? Oh, we do.

All right. All right. So, uh it should just work now.

Yeah, you can see it's worth CL now.

All right. All right, let's see how many dog shit flops I got. Dog shit flops.

That's 143 gigaf flops.

It's a little bit more.

All right. This will not stay power limited. It's really eager to use a lot

limited. It's really eager to use a lot of power because it's plugged in. Um,

and yep. Yeah, we're over here at 161 gigaflops.

Let's at least wait till it gets to the jet so we can be competitive. All right,

everybody. Is everybody enjoying waiting for the slow bus?

Does the clip mouse work? Let's see. Oo,

wow. That's disgusting. This is This is disgusting. How do people ever use these

disgusting. How do people ever use these things?

All right, now that the jit is up. Oh my

god.

Oh my god.

Oh my god. Good thing I don't want to multiply a matrix and it has some fan noise.

Okay, so the beamless numbers. Can we test the N3? That's unfair. [laughter]

N3? That's unfair. [laughter]

Okay, so we have for the final numbers we have 157 gigaflops.

Coming in in last place is 139 gigaflops.

Coming in in second place is the framework 16 at 3800 gigaflops. Coming in in second place,

gigaflops. Coming in in second place, that's third place, bronze medal, silver medal at 7,000 teraf gigaflops. And

coming in with the gold medal over here is the Stricks Halo at 14,000 gigaflops.

All right, let's give them all the beam just in case they need the beam. If they

need the beam, they need the beam. Let's

give them the beam.

We're going to beam them all at the same time.

Going to beam them all at the same time.

Okay, so Tiny is this magical option you can use called beam equals 2 that just makes things faster. It's slow though to start. That's the trade. Engineering is

start. That's the trade. Engineering is

all about trade-offs. Okay.

So, are we ready?

That thing over here is still whining. I

wish it would stay power limited because it's actually good at 40 watts. It's

only when it gets to 60 that that fan starts making terrible noise. So, I

actually thought the framework thermals were better, but uh apples to apples comparison, the HPs are better, except the HP will not stay power limited at 40

watts when you are plugged in with the stupid power adapter that it will only charge with. What was first? The HP.

charge with. What was first? The HP.

Okay, are you guys ready for the beam extravaganza?

We're going to start them in reverse order of their speed to give everybody a fair chance because we believe in diversity, equity, and inclusion. That's

right. We have lots of diversity. You

can see all this diversity represented.

We have black laptops, we have silverish laptops, and we have silverish gray laptops and a dark space gray laptop. We see all

this diversity and inclusion. Okay. All

right. We love diversity and inclusion on this stream. Great. See, now that it's not cool to like diversity and inclusion, we're getting on board. Kind

of like that time we bought Bitconnect after it went down. True story. All

right, let's start this guy first.

Bitconnect was going to come back, guys.

Bitconnect was going to come back. All

right, ready? Go, go, go, go. All right,

they're beaming and they're off to the beam. We got some beam searching going

beam. We got some beam searching going on there.

H cannot pickle IDER tools count object.

Okay, we have an issue on the MacBook.

Parallel equals zero. Don't pickle. All

right. And the MacBook's off without having any parallel. Let's turn that screen up to full brightness and show it off in its glory. No parallel on the MacBook. The MacBook got a disadvantage.

MacBook. The MacBook got a disadvantage.

It tripped out the gate.

I don't know why that's being slow. That

should be a lot faster than that. I'll

look over there. 50 watts down.

Are you watching AI slop? Yes, you're

watching compiling of AI slop. Okay, we

got the Max over here beaming. It's

beaming. It's beaming. It's beaming.

Let's beam. Oh, the Stricks Halo is pulling ahead. It's already on the

pulling ahead. It's already on the second beam. Everyone else is still on

second beam. Everyone else is still on the first. Stricks Halo is looking like

the first. Stricks Halo is looking like a winner right here.

We got to pay attention to the ThinkPad over here, though. It's It's moving.

It's moving. Look, it's mo. No, it's not moving. Mac looking pretty good. Mac

moving. Mac looking pretty good. Mac

looking pretty good over there with that lit up 32 in the warp. That's pretty

nice. That means it's using the Mac tensor cores. Tensor cores are in play.

tensor cores. Tensor cores are in play.

Stricks Halo. Stricks Halo over here still in the lead. Stricks point is lagging to catch up. Oh, it's trying.

Oh, it's trying. It's trying. Oh, and

the Mac. The Mac. No, no, no. This is

still in the lead. We're on the second beam here. You see, we're over here on

beam here. You see, we're over here on three. This is Oh, the Mac just got to

three. This is Oh, the Mac just got to three. We got to three on the Mac. We're

three. We got to three on the Mac. We're

on three on the Mac and we're still over here on two. I'm very slow. Very slow on the on the ThinkPad. I'm telling you, the processor is actually slower than the processor in my ZFold 5. ZFold 7.

ZFold 7 has a faster processor than this Thinkbook. All right, this one um slow.

Thinkbook. All right, this one um slow.

Oh. Oh, and we've moved on to nine down here. We're really we're really zooming

here. We're really we're really zooming ahead with Stricks Halo. It really is the fastest of the laptops. Remember,

this is an old Apple. This is not representative of new Apple, but how pathetic is it that there are many things about it that's the best? It

charges with a normal charger. Uh yeah,

so there's that. Okay. something. Oh,

and Stricks Halo's off. Stricks Halo

coming in at an amazing 17 teraflops. We are touching 17 over

17 teraflops. We are touching 17 over there with the beam. 17 teraflops. That

is unbelievable in a laptop. Okay. Uh

Stricks point with the synchronization failure. Let's try it again.

failure. Let's try it again.

Yeah.

Uh wait, time out. Oh, and this went to the screen saver. It got so bored. Okay,

this on screen saver, too. Okay, cool.

And we're still doing up there almost 17 teraflops. This is still running. Let's

teraflops. This is still running. Let's

go. Let's go. Let's go. We'll have to try it with hip equals one. If that

doesn't work, uh, rigged test. Whoa.

Rigged. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. You accusing the the the laptop Olympics of being rigged?

The laptop Olympics is a legitimate organization.

Okay. Okay. We're like the FIFA people.

It's legitimate.

Okay, we got the the MacBook. I'm kind

of excited for the numbers the MacBook's going to pull. And that thing is still on kernel uh two. Yep. Yep. It's over

there on kernel 2. Stricks Stricks Halo has been going for a while. Halo's been

going. Point is point is is struggling.

It's struggling. If colonels don't finish in 30 mil in 30 seconds, the driver times out. So yeah, Stricks Stricks is struggling.

Ah, the PC's tested like but this is just like the normal like I put Omarg on it. You saw me do it. You saw me put

it. You saw me do it. You saw me put it's it's it's it's the Mac's doing pretty well and that's with parallel equals zero. And that's actually not a

equals zero. And that's actually not a Mac problem. That's because I have a

Mac problem. That's because I have a weird Python installed and we should fix that. Cannot pickle tools count. Oh,

that. Cannot pickle tools count. Oh,

this is how does it have Python 314? How

did I just open a Mac and it has Python 314? But regardless, someone should fix

314? But regardless, someone should fix that. Does someone want to go fix that

that. Does someone want to go fix that bug in Tinyrad? It should work on Python 314. And we can't pick all eder tools

314. And we can't pick all eder tools counts. Why can't we pick on ider tools

counts. Why can't we pick on ider tools count? I don't. All right. Um, okay. And

count? I don't. All right. Um, okay. And

the Mac is off. The Mac is coming in at 9.7.

Let's give it a 9. No, we don't see 9.7.

9.65 teraflops. 9.6. A classy 9.65 teraflops.

teraflops. 9.6. A classy 9.65 teraflops.

An overwhelming 17 teraflops. And a

timeout again. All right, let's switch to Open CL.

Let's switch to Open CL.

I think Open CL should work. Let's try

CL equals 1. No, open CL error. Okay,

can't do that. Um,

let's go manually adjust that timeout.

God, timeline signal.

Let's go in here to hcq.py

hcq.py tiny runtime graph hcq.py 30 seconds.

We need that.

You guys are just seeing hand, aren't you?

A little blurry. Wait for that to come into focus. Um, okay. Time spent

into focus. Um, okay. Time spent

synchronizes online.

I want that HCQ support HCQ.

Uh, weight is on line 259.

Time out. Oh, here we go. We have

already have a parameter for it. Don't

do that. Okay.

HCQ wait time out.

hcqdev weight timeout ms equals 200. That's a good number of ms,

equals 200. That's a good number of ms, too. There we go.

too. There we go.

There we go. 200 seconds. Okay, we we want it to we want it to even finish the race. Okay. Oh, and it's it finished the

race. Okay. Oh, and it's it finished the first kernel. Okay, we got we got we got

first kernel. Okay, we got we got we got a respectable 1.2 Two teraflops here on this first kernel, which is something

is is something.

Green screen saver is insufferable.

[laughter] The way T flops on the thing, pad, it probably does. All right.

probably does. All right.

[sighs] Do we like the laptop Olympics?

We're going to try our best to estimate idle powers in a minute, too.

Oh, you feel sorry for who?

Look at the terrible glare. I'm sorry

you guys even have to look at it. None

of the other ones do that.

It's just a whole thing. Okay, it's a little bit on the MacBook, but like what? Like the laptop Parolympics? I

what? Like the laptop Parolympics? I

don't know. I think we have two real contenders here. I think we have we have

contenders here. I think we have we have the short bus over here in the middle with the framework and the and the thick pad. And then we got like this thing

pad. And then we got like this thing which has some limitations. It's a bit it's a bit fussy about what power adapter it can use. And we got the uh oh, let's see how much watts this is

using. This is using 52 watts. So

using. This is using 52 watts. So

actually this at over here at 60 is more power efficient than than this. But to

be fair, this is an M1.

Um, no, the blacks don't look better on Apple. It's They don't. It It's um here.

Apple. It's They don't. It It's um here.

So that's actually Well, I mean, that's true black right now. The

Omari is just not really black in the background.

Um, so this is like true black on the HP, but yeah, I agree. They still kind of look better on the Mac, but you won't notice it. I I I think the HP has a

notice it. I I I think the HP has a screen that's at least as good as a MacBook. I think that this touchpad is

MacBook. I think that this touchpad is at least as good as a MacBook. This

branding is awful. The fussiness about the power adapter is terrible. And the

battery life is is atrocious. The

battery life of this laptop is like 5 hours. The battery life of this laptop

hours. The battery life of this laptop is probably like 20. Um and the screen's a little bit small. And we don't I think with the new timeout I think we

might have made some progress on this guy. Oh, we got we have to go marchy

guy. Oh, we got we have to go marchy screen saver coming up. Little lag

there.

All right. All right.

And we're up and we're getting one teraflop.

Okay. The stricks point managed to do worse with beam than without beam. So,

let's go back to without beam. I don't

know what to tell you.

It actually managed to do worse.

I don't even really know how that's possible. That's probably more of a tiny

possible. That's probably more of a tiny grad bug, but it might just be inconsistent power management.

So, we have a final verdict.

The standings did not change. This one

is still riding the short bus trying to catch up. I'm telling you, the CPU in

catch up. I'm telling you, the CPU in this is unusable. Um, I can't believe that they put a whole laptop around this. This is also not a cheap laptop.

this. This is also not a cheap laptop.

All these laptops cost over $2,000.

Um, the framework has an unbelievable amount of glare on the screen. The whole

thing is just diffusing. That window is just like it's like I can't see a thing right now. It actually looks better in

right now. It actually looks better in the camera than it does in person. It's

not even it's not even the colors on the screen. It's just like a frame like this

screen. It's just like a frame like this is just completely unusable as like just look at that. It looks even worse in person. This makes the framework

person. This makes the framework completely unusable until they fix their screen. It it's the polarizer. Um I was

screen. It it's the polarizer. Um I was emailing with with Nurov about this last night and he says that they have some like matte but like like I mean I'm just I got three other laptops here and none

of them are doing that shit. Why is this screen so bad? OLED. Terrible. OLED.

Really, it kind of is the nicest screen.

All right, we got a little bit of noise coming out of that guy now. Little bit

of heat. Got the most noise coming out of this, but it is using the most power.

It doesn't make noise at 40. This one is silent, but it's only running at 38. And

I bet you this thing uses a quarter of a watt, which I guess is kind of good for battery life because it probably has a dog shit tiny battery.

All right, are we even going to let it finish?

Hey, the max screen is so nice, [laughter] guys. Like, just look at it.

[laughter] guys. Like, just look at it.

It's so nice.

Oh, no. This one is nice, too. Let me

turn the brightness all the way up, too.

That is full brightness. Okay. The

brightness is kind of mediocre.

[laughter] The max screen really is the best.

All right. Um, yeah. So, the short bus is still is still coming in. Uh, the

screen's pretty nice on it. I don't

know. The fit's pretty nice on it. This

is the lightest of the laptops, but yeah.

What's the graphana in the background?

That's the power draw of the uh the guys. The just look at the glare on that

guys. The just look at the glare on that screen. It's unusable. It is so

screen. It's unusable. It is so unusable.

Oh, okay. Uh it's finally finished. We

got one more beam to do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right. We have the Yeah. I saw a thing where they said the framework put all of its eggs in the basket of repairability, but like this isn't even really true. This screen is just bad.

really true. This screen is just bad.

And it's not bad because of resolution.

It's not bad because of color space.

It's bad because of the backlight and the glare. Like, you have to fix those

the glare. Like, you have to fix those things. you have to like pay more

things. you have to like pay more attention to whatever polarizer you're using. Um, and also don't use a single

using. Um, and also don't use a single backlight. Figure out how to get a mini

backlight. Figure out how to get a mini LED backlight. It looks so good. Oh,

LED backlight. It looks so good. Oh,

like just just the the the quality that you see on that webcam reflects reality with the one caveat that that isn't actually black on the Omari screen. Um,

and I don't know how to quickly change it. It's not black and marches. All the

it. It's not black and marches. All the

marches have the same config.

Oh, what happened there?

Oh, the battery is dying.

Apple nicely saving my battery.

HP only charges with that one adapter.

Okay. And the MacBook is back running it for gigaflops.

HP got its own charger, so it kind of cheated. HP by being a whiny little

cheated. HP by being a whiny little bitch got its own charger. All right,

still it's still going. You just came.

Who won? Um, okay. So, we have two losers. Let's start with the losers.

losers. Let's start with the losers.

Okay, let's start with the Let's start with the losers. Okay, th this one the whole time we've been sitting here has exhausted my patience waiting to beam something. So it doesn't even get to

something. So it doesn't even get to finish. We're going to control C it. I'm

finish. We're going to control C it. I'm

sorry X1 Carbon. You have less power than my ZFold 7. You have been eliminated.

Framework for having the most dog shit glare on the screen I've ever seen. It's

it's it's it looks even worse in person than what you see on that on that on that thing. And don't tell me it's the

that thing. And don't tell me it's the position. We can move all the other

position. We can move all the other laptops into that position. I played

with this all day yesterday. This makes

this laptop completely unusable. Also,

you guys, if you weren't here for the beginning, we did the torque test where we Look at that. It flexes. It flex. I'm

going to crack it. Look at this. Doesn't

flex. Whole laptop moves. Oh, no. But

that's not fair. That's a 14 in. Yeah,

this is a 16 in. Whole laptop moves.

Feels the most solid. 9 out of 10. Eight

out of 10. Seven out of 10. Three out of terrible framework. You have been

terrible framework. You have been eliminated. I felt like I was going to

eliminated. I felt like I was going to break it just closing the screen. And

that leaves Let's get these ones out of here. Let's get the losers out of here.

here. Let's get the losers out of here.

The loser laptops are leaving the laptop Olympics.

Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

And we're left with two contenders.

the MacBook Pro from literally four years ago. This is a four-year-old

years ago. This is a four-year-old MacBook Pro. Let's not even get started

MacBook Pro. Let's not even get started on how good that MacBook Pro is. And the

HP ZBbook right over here.

All right. So, this is the HP ZBbook.

And this is the MacBook Pro from four years ago.

The HP ZBook is the only laptop to be faster than the MacBook Pro from four years ago. How come no Dell laptop?

years ago. How come no Dell laptop?

Well, Dell didn't sponsor the laptop Olympics. Okay. Um, the MacBook Pro is

Olympics. Okay. Um, the MacBook Pro is the only laptop is Yeah. So, this is the only laptop that's faster. Like, again,

if you over there, if the losers over there can't compete with a 4-year-old laptop, never mind. I think the the the right laptop probably has the same power

as my cell phone. And the left laptop has the power of a potato. Literally,

I've seen potatoes with more computing power than that laptop.

So, this leaves two potential winners.

It leaves the MacBook from a while ago and the HP Stricks Hammer. They're a

similar price. This one, unfortunately, does not come in uh 16 in. It only comes in 14 in. So, you have to be okay with 14 in. Um, it also doesn't want to

14 in. Um, it also doesn't want to charge with anything besides its included power adapter, which like if the MacBook had included power, like I don't know why. Just find the included MacBook power adapter. The included

MacBook power adapter is great, too.

like this is charging off an anchor, right? It's charging off of whatever I

right? It's charging off of whatever I just happen to have. This thing doesn't charge. So, yeah. I mean, you know,

charge. So, yeah. I mean, you know, you're left with the like, do you see this logo? This logo is representative

this logo? This logo is representative of the experience you're going to have with the HP, right? Also, can we talk

about the names of these laptops? This

is the MacBook Pro 16.

And then the processor is the M1 Max.

MacBook Pro 16 2001. This is the HP ZBook.

They I think they throw the word Ultra in there. It's the G1A, not to be

in there. It's the G1A, not to be confused with the G1i.

And then it also has 14 for the size of the the screen. Um, as far as screen quality goes, it's there's some things that Let's Let's bring up a web page.

Uh, stunning graphic.

Graphic deep color.

Yeah.

God.

So like that's not even a let me find like DCI color test.

Yeah. Okay. This is a good one. Yeah.

Okay. So like

the it looks actually way better in person than what you're seeing on the uh let's do the same on the Mac.

widegamut.com. That's easy to remember.

It It looks better in person than it does on Oh, Firefox does not support this test. Okay. Well,

this test. Okay. Well,

sure this Mac has Safari.

I don't want to make Safari my default browser from 26 years ago.

Um, widegamut.comestimage

widegamut.comestimage HDR. The keyboard is pretty nice on this, too. The framework does have a

this, too. The framework does have a good keyboard. This is the MacBook. I'm

good keyboard. This is the MacBook. I'm

telling you, the the HP looks better.

You probably can't see it on this webcam because the webcam doesn't have dynamic range.

But yeah, let's let's zoom in a little here.

Yeah, the HP is by far the best looking one. It may Yeah.

one. It may Yeah.

Yeah. If you can't see it on the webcam, nine out of 10 people would choose the HP over the MacBook. But they're both excellent displays and you won't be upset with either of them.

Uh oh, the Mac has a different aspect ratio. This Mac also has a notch, I

ratio. This Mac also has a notch, I believe. Um, are you running Windows?

believe. Um, are you running Windows?

No, I'm not running any Windows.

Uh, if you can get an M1 Pro for 550 on eBay, like again, I it is what what's not even being discussed here.

Let me put these two right next to each other. Like the elephant not in the room

other. Like the elephant not in the room here. I don't know if that's elephants

here. I don't know if that's elephants or whatever. I don't know about

or whatever. I don't know about elephants, but like is that this laptop is 4 years old and then finally there's just barely something. Yeah, you can see it there.

something. Yeah, you can see it there.

You can see it looks better. Like it's

the the clouds on the Mac here are washed out. The the screen does not have

washed out. The the screen does not have the dynamic range of this. But I mean it's an all that, you know. You got you got to give it credit. Um let's scroll down and see another one.

Let's find a good one.

Oh great.

Yeah. Again, no contest in person.

Yeah. Like I guess the webcam can't capture dynamic range because like you don't see over here that it actually has pretty amazing dynamic range compared to

the MacBook where everything is like Yeah. not like there's just not like

Yeah. not like there's just not like real HDR support on the MacBook. Uh I

don't know if it's gotten better on the new ones, but yeah, this I mean the screen looks way better.

HP also has 120. They're both 120. Uh

they probably have similar PPI.

Let's do these side by side here. All right. Um it's 10 o'clock. I don't want to steal Kevin's

o'clock. I don't want to steal Kevin's office. Uh

office. Uh so yeah, that was the laptop Olympics. Uh if

you're buying a laptop, uh you can't you still like there's still nobody that can compete with the MacBook. Um again, the other thing

MacBook. Um again, the other thing that's not discussed here is I mean those two over there. I'm not even going to look at the idle power because like the framework that that screen just immediately rules it out from ever being

used as a real laptop. both the

flexiness of it and the fact that it has tons of glare and the fact that it has backlight bleed. I have not seen

backlight bleed. I have not seen backlight bleed on a laptop since high school.

Like no, I mean it shouldn't it's not actually high school. Like I think the Macs used to have I remember like buying a Mac in like I remember I bought Macs in like 2014 and I would send them back

if they had backlight bleed. But like

there is no backlight bleed. Well,

that's an OLED so there can't even be backlight bleed. But there is zero

backlight bleed. But there is zero backlight bleed on this MacBook, right?

Like that's that's that's a that's a true edge at the bottom there. Um,

again, you don't see that glare in real life, but wow, the Apple um the framework is actually it's fine

on color, it's fine on uh resolution, but it's not fine on the screen goes like just [laughter]

the Mac wouldn't even think of bending.

The HP bends a tiny bit, but like not really. Like you feel okay doing that.

really. Like you feel okay doing that.

You know, when I'm lying in bed, I use my laptop. I put the laptop on the side,

my laptop. I put the laptop on the side, you know? Like I put a laptop on its

you know? Like I put a laptop on its side, use it like that. And like I would not feel okay doing that with the framework.

What about M4 Air? Guys, would you the the HP from the current year does not even beat the MacBook from four years ago? Hands down. They're competitive.

ago? Hands down. They're competitive.

These are competitive laptops.

Okay, that was the laptop Olympics.

Thank you all for watching. I think

we've crowned a winner here. It's the

unseen hero who was on the stream, my dirty ass M3 Max. And this isn't even the latest generation Apple. Come on,

guys. Come on. We need a competitive laptop.

We need a laptop that's competitive. We

can't just let Apple keep winning.

I'm gonna I use the HP, but the battery life's so bad. I never had to think about charging my MacBook. I just like charge it. What's the price? I paid like

charge it. What's the price? I paid like 2300 for this guy, I think. 64 gigs. I

mean, it has more RAM, too. This has How much RAM?

Like show like my I don't care. You guys can see my serial number. What are you going to do with

number. What are you going to do with it? That has 32 gigs of RAM. This has 64

it? That has 32 gigs of RAM. This has 64 gigs of RAM. I believe this has two terabytes of storage and this has one.

So, you will get slightly better specs with the HP.

What kind of keyboard? This like little chicklet thing. I don't know. It's not

chicklet thing. I don't know. It's not

great. The framework one is kind of better. I like Also, the back the

better. I like Also, the back the keyboard backlight on this draws two watts.

Um, yeah, we didn't get to really test this with uh, yeah, like it it looks way better in

person. I'm I'm looking at the screen on

person. I'm I'm looking at the screen on the webcam and the webcam just can't capture the dynamic range that the OLED's capable of displaying.

Um, okay everybody, thank you for watching the laptop Olympics. Uh if you are a laptop

Olympics. Uh if you are a laptop manufacturer and you would like to sponsor the next laptop Olympics, uh send me a laptop and we'll make sure we

include it in the laptop Olympics in 2026 when somebody finally can maybe beat the MacBook from 4 years ago.

[laughter] All right, thanks for watching everyone.