GISELLE of aespa on Finding Her Passion Again 🌙🖤 | DAEBAK SHOW S3 EP20

is it the truth no no what are some of the things that you kind of like like God this is kind of tough that you might struggle with I

guess I've never had members so it's just me oh no oh my God and my infp self I did fall out of love with music like

doing this I did lose my passion during this journey I'm trying to find that again yeah uh-huh there's a dice uhuh and a dead

fish on it wait a real dead fish I don't think it's real definitely I knew I wanted to be something in the entertainment industry

but I think for the longest time I think I wanted to be really

[Music] yeah it's the de show hey everybody what's up welcome back to the tbox show I am joined today by the

incredibly talented the lovely Jazelle of espa give it upov hi hello hi please say hello to all of our viewers and listeners hello I'm Delle from Esa we're so excited to have

you thank you for joining us thank you for having me yeah um this is our first time meeting I think right yes um I've obviously seen you on the the internet and on shows and stuff but um very excited to meet you thank you for

joining us on the show yeah thank you for having me um of course uh where are you coming from today today from home from home today was an off day today was an off day nice what do you what do you

typically do on your off days on my off days I think I take that time to rest fullon at home watch some TV okay yeah awesome awesome we're going to we're going to jump into a lot of stuff uh a

little bit later but I was I was going through your profile and because we've never spoken and I don't know much about you I was just looking at stuff and there were a couple things that stood

out to me okay first of all well I felt n connection oh yeah because we're both y uhhuh okay so we're like Tong kind

of uh I don't want to age myself but we're both you're the dragon okay okay and then I saw that you guys debuted on my birthday oh really yeah wow so I was

like oh my God it's such a I know it means like nothing to anybody else but to me I like oh it's like a cool little coincidental connection so I'm very excited about uh our conversation today and see what else we might have in

common and and for uh to get to know you better and for our listeners and viewers to get to know you better as well have you seen any of our our stuff on dive and stuff like that yes I have um a lot

of fans actually have like written like I want you to go on dive Studios for a very long time so I known about this channel for a while now and I did see the videos with

um okay okay well thank you for coming we're we're very excited for you to bless us with your appearance here oh thank you

um so I hear you have some very exciting news yeah about an espa comeback yeah what can you tell us about this comeback so we are coming back this time with a

full length album so uh it's our first tongu album congratulations yeah that's a very big deal for artists

to have a first fulllength album LP yeah it is and this time we have two title tracks okay so we have our main one Armageddon and our double title um

Supernova and it's kind of a different uh genre Armageddon is a little more um hip-hop based and Supernova is a little more tonic I guess yeah do you have like

a preference between the two I mean they're very different musical styles it seems yeah what do you gravitate towards to I was fullon Armageddon I'm not gonna

lie a little more hip hop yeah okay that song was um kind of spoke to me like right when I heard it and but Supernova definitely has its really cool perks on the side yeah I feel like you guys build

your own universe and then things are always changing and moving and so many story lines happening what kind of part of this universe can we expect in this

full length album this time we we have our new uh pan season 2 I guess um and it's called parallel line which is actually the name of our upcoming

concert ah and that's where kind of like the whole new movement and everything is seen and um yeah it's the continuation of hyperline which was our previous

concert and if you want to you know know what that is you should come to the concert definitely go to the concert everybody um is there a specific meaning

of parallel lines yeah parallel line is um it means you know we have a new thing

going on within ourselves and only we can decide that uhuh and um it's kind of like an identity thing where we have um

you know multi multiple personalities kind of thing kind of like multiple T yeah how do you say that yeah multiple personality right you know like Esa we

have like our AI members and us like all that in one so it's Multiverse it's just multivers it's all about the parallel Multiverse multiple things happening at

once at one time at one time in one place got it um so you're releasing your first fulllength album mhm and then are you going on tour yes you are going on

tour and that is a 2024 tour yes all around the world certain parts where are you going we're starting um in Korea in

Soul Korea on June 29th okay and then going to to do our Asia tour okay after that I'm sure people are very very excited to see you guys uh on tour now

you did do a world tour previously right how was that for you that was really an experience because um never in my life

actually have I been out of home I guess out of a country for that long so being able to go to different countries that

in itself was a very cool experience and being able to see M our fans like worldwide I guess they're all different you know in each country so that was really really fun was there any uh

country or culture in specific that was like you were very surprised by I was definitely surprised by m in France oh why it was our last city um of our tour

and they just know how to party I guess they're very very excited and like dancing and doing their own thing like filming their own videos and yeah was really fun what did you ever get

homesick when you say it's the longest time you've been away from home that time yeah did you get homesick at all or were you like this is awesome I at the start definitely I was getting homesick

but then I got used to it kind of like moving all the time yeah yeah yeah and and like I formed my own like little routine I guess oh yeah just like staying in the hotel like you know yeah

yeah yeah making sure you're not tired and you're feeling good that was that was nice all righty yeah cool so Jazelle we're going to we're going to dive into your past a little bit oh okay cuz I I

don't know you very well I'm sure your fans know you so well but for people who might be new to you like myself we got to get some basic understanding so very

simple question when you were young what did you want to be was being a singer performer always your dream or your passion definitely I knew I wanted to be

something in the entertainment industry but I think for the longest time I think wanted to be an actress really yeah got it was there a particular like movie or

a TV show or an actress that you loved or looked up to or anything I think I started off by um Disney Channel uhuh cuz I was little and um wanted to be

like one of those you know Disney Channel yeah I wanted to be doing those like you know that that was like one of my dreams and then I fell in love with

um Tomb Raider this movie yeah and and Jolie that was like kind of my first like eye opening like moment well you must have been really young when that came out right I was young I don't know

why I was obsessed I was obsessed with salt as well oh yeah Angelina Jolie yeah I was just obsessed with those like action movies uhhuh and I guess yeah

that's kind of when I wanted to but then how did you end up becoming a singer you became a trainee at SM mhm how did that process kind of happen for you um in

high school I was not very interested in K-pop for you know like since ever yeah until um this moment where I was kind of

having like a hard time in high school just like you know Sai yeah you know something like that and then I came across like these K-Pop videos um music

videos and you know it looked fun I guess and I started like kind of just like copying the dances and like I literally started just like everyone

else did like fans of K-pop and then um I realized like this is what I want to do like straight away I just knew and like it literally got me out of this like dark hole that I was in and like

yeah that's like when it all started so like were your parents like very supportive of this were they like okay go for it or were they like H not sure

um they were obviously not like super fond of it at the start and they're like whatever like you're going to have to do what you want to do cuz they know my person and so they're like all right go for it

yeah are they supportive of it now I I imagine yeah they are but they're you know parents are always like

um yeah yeah yeah you know I have like a very similar experience where it was I had to graduate college and then be like look I did everything I got the job I did everything please let me try this

kind of thing really yeah and then even after I debut they're like are you sure you want to keep doing this like don't you want to just live a normal life that kind of yeah yeah yeah but it's like you

know we understand the parents want us to be just safe and secure and happy and entertainment is not always the easiest or most stable job okay and your are

your parents here with you in Korea in Japan actually they're in Japan okay do you get to see them pretty often or not really but like when we do go to schedules in Japan I try to you know go home for like even just a couple hours

yeah of course um what were what were your training like I think you had a a shorter training period than most people um so you graduate high school you got into college you said I'm going to go do

this training thing was that a really hard adjustment or was it fun was it everything you thought it would be I don't know at that time of my life I was

like very like mentally strong so like I was like this is so like T like it's just it has to be it has to be like that

and so the whole training part was it was hard obviously you know training everyone knows it's a hard process but um it was kind of like expected like I

knew it was going to be like this so it was just it was kind of like a weird feeling cuz I am having a hard time and it was very you know stressful and like you

know working hard over your um limits is like not an easy thing but it was also like expected at the same time yeah I think it was one of the moments in my life where I worked the hardest well I

never really had that trainy experience but I can only imagine it's like incredibly stressful yeah very competitive um and there are like other girls that are like we're all compe

you're all competing for that spot in the group yeah yeah yeah that kind of brings us to to present day you know if that's like your past and your late

teens I guess early 20s kind of uh you're still in your early 20s yeah um but you have been so I guess successful in a very short period of time to go

from high school graduate to trainy to one of the top groups in the world that has to be a very steep learning curve yeah um probably I imagine some things

that come with a lot of joy and happiness but also things that are like really hard to deal with um so what have been some of like the best things about you know getting to debut and do what

you hopefully love to do but also like what are some of the things that you kind of like like ah this is kind of tough like that you might struggle with I

guessan confusion yeah confusion is or like dilemma dilemma or instability maybe was like kind of going on at the

start and everything you know like and also like Korean in general like the language like I'm not like perfectly I was not perfectly really yeah like right

now I'm better but like back then like I not perfect Korean so like adjusting in that whole you know P you know what I

mean like all that was like kind of hard I guess well you seem to be doing great yeah you seem doing great so congratulations than but with Fame and with success there might come stuff as

well that's like Fame is also hard and it's confusing and it's weird and like life you're also in your early 20s and um there's so many emotions and growth that happens then like is there anything

that you're like kind of figure out right now these days I think music wise definitely have a lot of comine oh

really okay yeah because I did um I did fall out of love with music like doing this kind of like why I started in the first place I think everyone goes

through that kind of Crisis um internally but um yeah I think I did lose my kind of passion or my own kind

of style a lot during this journey but um yeah I'm trying to find that again yeah I mean I think it's like you were saying I think everybody goes through it and it's normal and and also

I've never been in a group so I don't really fully understand what that might feel like but even as a solo artist you there are moments where you're like H I'm kind of tired right

I'm not feeling this fully yeah but you still have to go through the motions and we're lucky that we love our jobs but sometimes it's a job yeah and you're

like I don't want to do this right now yeah um but I but I hope that you're able to find time for yourself M and and and to know that it's totally fine to be

slow and patient with it yeah um but hopefully you you fall in love with it again and you come back yeah even stronger and bigger and greater when you are like when you're like stressed or

anything do you have like your go-to people is it like your members is it HZ or Tong xang or family or anything like that I think when I'm stressed I

kind of just deal with it by myself yeah I I think it's like I like being alone as well so it's kind of just like I just use my own like presence and

like heal I mean you were saying you know you spend what you were at home all day because it's an off day yeah just to I guess relax and chill what does a day at home look like for you you can do

anything you want you have a full day off what are you going to do I would probably just wake up have breakfast watch

TV go on my phone and it'll probably like be Night by then cool yeah but if I'm not like physically exhausted I'd probably like you know go to the company

and like practice something that's not a day off what are you doing but I do I kind of enjoy that now really yeah like I used to not enjoy it like it was kind of like like work you know what I mean

but um these days I kind of like it it's I guess maybe it's like a routine thing like that was what you were so used to yeah and you feel like you're going back to that yeah it's like a new routine like I don't know why this

like cool yeah whatever works for you it kind of like makes me feel like and yeah relax just like practice dance rehearsal

makes you feel like stable and we all have our things me it's like going to a cafe oh and doing nothing or just like laying around all day by yourself yeah I

love I love spending time by myself in a cafe Anywhere But like I also like just going to a cafe and people are like Eric's s sitting there in a cafe by himself like yeah I'm just reading or

just like oh on my computer or whatever that's what's your mbti infj and ifp oh

so like similar yeah Vibes yeah you like have lots of like thoughts yeah I before you go to bed you like think of like what you did and like what you said and

you're like why did I say that and I cuckle and you're like gosh yeah and then I was like I have to go to sleep otherwise I'm just going to think about it and then it comes out in your dreams

MH oh yeah yeah same cycle [Music] yeah here we go this is Box of Lies it's

very very very simple we are going to be given three boxes and inside these boxes there are random objects and things we have no idea what they are do you know

what they are no no we have no idea and we have to describe what is in the Box to each other now we can choose to tell each other what is in there or lie and

make it up completely now we have to lie at least for one out of the three boxes and we have to guess if the other person is telling the truth or if they're lying the person who guesses most correct is

the winner yes all right you ready yeah round one in this beautiful

box there is oh wow there are a total of three

objects okay there is a seal on top of a rock that is laying next to a beautiful

package of ramen what yeah I know it sounds crazy a seal on top of a rock next to Ramen

yeah um I think you're telling the truth are you sure yeah yeah this is so random that is so Random

okay oh it's kind of cute it's kind of cute yeah we got a seal Rock next to a package of

ramen there we go wow that cute yeah good job okay jelle gets a point yay now it's your turn okay I'm kind of curious I'm

curious so we have scissors uh-huh next to a pencil

uh-huh on top of a piece of tissue on top of a piece of tissue yes scissors and a pencil on top of a piece of a

[Music] tissue that's so specific and so lame that I think you're telling the

truth is it the truth no no what is it it's glasses and pom poms and a

Sharpie wow yeah the hey team really creative stuff yeah really creative how do you come up with that I don't know

but uh you did a very good job on on fooling me yeah I the LIE had me nervous I wanted to get it out of the way what the

he well here it goes there is

a big roll of uh paper towels okay with three espresso pods taped on

top with two bananas running through the center of the paper towel on a bed of tissues pink tissues I should say

there's that many objects in that tiny little box pink tissues and two bananas running through a paper towel thing with

espresso pods yeah how many pink tissues there's like four [Music]

truth no no pink tissues oh my God oh my God you had me with the pink tissues wow yeah I I did not think I

would fool you but here is this wonderful Masterpiece there's actually two bananas in there a nice little centerpiece everybody all right this is your chance to take the

[Music] lead you're really good at acting thank you what's this

reaction so uh there's a something that looks like a dead fish a dead fish on

dice uh-huh there's a dice uh and a dead fish on it wait a real dead fish I don't think it's real but it looks very real

okay so uh yeah dice dead fish and like a ribbon ribbon on the dead fish's head

oh that's adorable yeah yeah very cute yeah um I think you're telling the truth

shut up no way no but there's a reason for the reaction that I had is it's not a dead fish what is it it's it looks like a Tums a

parrot I don't know wait what it looks real like it's really looks real that's not real but yes it's a

little bird it's a little bird wow yeah you oh I have to touch it it's not I promise it's not

real this looks really real like the fur looks the the what is it feathers yeah man

what this is a a turquoise candle what candle turquoise candle candle okay stuffed with

Crush red peppers a necklace and some silica gel and that's it so there a candle that's turquoise

with what with a necklace a necklace crushed red peppers and some silica gel

lie it is the truth no what it's actually turquoise silica gel Crush red pepper okay gelle if you can fool me on this one you win

[Music] okay what is that um this kind of scary there's a water bottle

uh-huh there's a water bottle uhhuh with a banana inside of it what there's a banana inside of a water bottle

uh-huh and like these eraser looking things there's like a couple of these eraser looking things on the outside of the water bottle [Music]

taped truth lie what oh my God it's the opposite what what

is oh my gosh I honestly don't know what these are is what are those like bouncy bouncy balls I haven't had a bouncy I haven't seen a bouncy ball in years what

do you do with these you just bounce them that's so useless why would you buy that well Jazelle ulations you are a much better liar than I

am really I think you're just easily fooled maybe I'm just maybe maybe I'm just dble I think so maybe I'm just a very trusting person I think so H well

thank you for playing this wonderful game thank you and uh now we know uh that Jazelle is a great actress and I am just a gullible fool thank

you if you could pick one actress to play you in a biopic it's a movie about you wow who would you want to play you

this is super random very random Angela Jolie no no it's a it's a hypothetical fun

question yeah super hypothetical but um yeah Matt Bomer Matt Bomer yeah okay he he's the main character in a TV show called white

white whitear yes which is one of my favorite TV shows and I don't know I like resonate with him so much his character NE caffy and I don't know like

I feel like a male playing me would be cool as well MH Matt Bomer that would be that is a very unexpected answer yeah but I like it all right this is not a very hypothetical question you have many

songs what's your favorite song to perform live ooh uh favorite song to perform live is Chang

what what about that song is it like is it the performance aspect is it your part in it like anything in particular that song is not really like

a performan song it's very like it literally means lucid dreaming so I kind of like the dance we have it's a very like easy flowy dance and the

whole Vibes of it is very like um like dreamy and like cloudy and like yeah okay yeah it's it's it's a nice song you just enjoy it every time I just enjoy it that's awesome we all have those we all

have those and then there's and then I have a few that I don't like to do but I have to do it because it's concert and I'm like it's got to do it again yeah over and over it's it's it's it's a it's

a blessing another random random question do you have a favorite goto social media account like a Instagram account or a Tik Tok account where you

just like watching their content oh I know this is very narcissistic it's fine but I love looking at my own Instagram I'm always looking at my

Instagram when you say that are you looking at your tags like people tagging you or like your hashtag or is it like you're looking at your own Instagram with like like what are you looking at I'm literally looking at just my

Instagram account like I'm just looking through my photos over and over again yeah for no reason maybe it's like you like you have a lot of meaning with those photos maybe I

don't know like you these days you can put music you know with your post and that's like my uhhuh how do you say that like it's

it's what you live for yeah kind of like I know it's so random but it's such a habit of mine to like think of what song

I want to put as my Instagram like post song That's So Random it's so random but it's so fun but I love that for you I

truly do thank you um and that's great yeah that's something I enjoy doing hey that's that's that's great when you leave home what's what's one thing you

cannot leave home without I always need to have like some kind of candy with me like Mau or like jelly are you a big

candy candy person yeah sweets like jelly like I got to have if I don't have that with me it's like it's not even mints like it has to be something chewy

huh that's why I don't know like mints are not enough kashim uhhuh like it's not strong enough it's not satisfying yeah what's

your current favorite jelly Japanese jelly like you know like when you go to the convenience stores like just any of those any of them yeah yeah but my

all-time favorite is Kang Kang Mau Mau High delicious yeah absolutely delicious yeah I uh I haven't had one in a while when you when you have time off and stuff like who do you hang out with do

you have a lot of friends here is it mostly your members I think I hang out mostly with my members I don't really

have that many friends mhm I hang out with like my trainer MH and yeah I I do like spending time by

myself got it yeah that's fair introverted totally fine when it when you when it comes to like I guess relationships with your members I imagine all the relationships are also

very different right um who do you go for for what like is there somebody that you're like H I'm going to go shopping because we just get along in that way or this person is food or this person is

advice or do you kind of have that or is everybody kind of equal definitely food is winter MH we have very similar like taste in food yeah I think like if I

want to have fun yeah I guess ningning uhhuh or like talk about music ning is like we

kind of resonate on that and with Karina shopping or like just going out to do whatever like if I feel like doing something that day something active maybe yeah something active or something

yeah Karina I've never had members so it's just me oh no oh my God in my infp self just by myself it's okay what

element of Earth would you want to control fire water air or earth that is

so fun um I would love to control water oh just cuz I don't have water in my

[Laughter] SAU um I need water so yeah I would love

to control water that's a that's cool when you think of water right and it's not in your suchu what does water have that you may not have first of all

humans cannot live without water true yeah very smart it's super important in just life you know no matter how much

you know we as humans love each other or whatever without water without water yeah you can live without me but you can't live without water no we can't we we need we need you here oh yeah but

like realistically so yeah water has everything you can manifest water you can literally be like I'm I'm going to

wake up early tomorrow and drink water and that's going to come true gosh she's inspiring me with her words for water like truly I think I hope you have a

water endorsement oh wow coming soon thank you sasu sasu what um all righty I feel like you've accomplished so much in your your career

so far and you've you've done a lot ofong a lot of promotions you finally have your first LP um what has it felt like putting that LP together and what

does it mean to you um this time around um this album I think is very

meaningful to us as a whole because this time around it was definitely a very different um behind

the scenes kind of situations where um like we trusted each other and kind of um worked all together to make this album happen when you say that you mean

with the A anr and label or within the group with the label it yeah so I think in terms of that there's we have a lot of um tone

towards a deep connection a deep connection your team yeah and um personally as well I kind of worked hard to try to make sure that all the parts

that I can bring to the album are of quality so um yeah I'm kind of looking forward to the whole reaction what our fans would think and I'm very excited to

hear it thank you um we know we have a double title mhm but is there AOK a bide that you are very excited for people to

hear see usually I'm very very like um mhm very certain yeah very certain like with the bsides as well like I have what

I like and I what I think our fans would like it's very like certain but this time I have no idea like they're all kind of they're all good yeah but

they're all like like just there's not one that kind of like hits me as in like they're all

that good so I I cannot choose but I think my personal favorite M yeah it's really hard to choose but I guess as for now I think I like prologue the best

okay just because it has kind of like a a like a cool like meaning in the lyrics as well and sounds good okay yeah Melody is good

excited to hear it yeah very very excited to hear it all you know you you're still what this is like your four

fourth year since right yeah um still I mean it's not you're not a rookie at all uh there's still like so much and you're still so young there's still so much

that you can do that I'm sure you want to do like when you think about your future right like what are all the things that you want to to do or try or

accomplish be that professionally as an Entertainer but also just personally what are some things that you're like I want to even if it's like I want to go kaying I don't know like random things like are there

things that you're looking forward to I love clothes and I love fashion so it would be really cool to do something related to that one day well I'm excited it's going to happen I feel like you're

talented you're you're bright you got the right energy it's going to yeah the only thing you need is water yeah and if you have water it will all work it will

all work yeah yeah so sorry please give us a call we we what's like something really mundane

that you want to do like mundane or like a bucket list even if it's not like acting or whatever like for me I just did I just did a tour in I just finished

my tour and one thing that I've wanted to do for so long was to travel New Zealand oh really so I finished my last show in New Zealand and then I took like

five days off to just like hang out and it was so nice so fun uhhuh and it was something that I been looking forward to for like years and I'm so glad that I was able to do it is there anything that

you're like I just really like to do that cuz it's time I think it'd be fun I really want to go like into a temple mhm like you

know yeah and just be there and just like kind of like take like a week to just kind of like chill wow like without my phone you know what I mean like like like Mong a meditation Meditation

Retreat yeah that could be fun yeah I I want to say that I'd be able to do it but I think I would like lose my mind after

like a day yeah I think so too like same but like I I think that's like a very like a new like Awakening you know where you like Miss the chaos yeah yeah yeah

you know it's weird because when you're in the chaos you're like I just want peace but then you think about being in a place of peace and that makes you so uncomfortable exactly it's this weird

dilemma we're always in humans yeah the way we are it's just the way we are some personal goals like what there is there anything that you you want to work on as

you get older I guess through your 20s uh o any habits you want to gain or get rid of he do you have any bad habits oh yeah I have so many bad Habs yeah um

first of all I have like very bad posture we all have bad bad posture yeah but it's like really bad like cuz we are like we have to be in front of a camera

and I always like yeah don't drink enough water even though I'm always preaching it what are we talking about today today's theme is water let's on that note cheers

[Music] cheers sasu sasu drink more water drink more water better posture better posture what else

are we putting out in there in the world good energy good energy I like I want to journal you're want to journal yeah imagine how like put together my life would feel like if I like before going

to bed like journaled you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah totally yeah okay you know I I'm I'm very curious to uh to

catch up with you in like a year yeah and say how how are these things going just check in M because I think it's a they're all like very good positive

healthy habits yeah and I think it's great that your mind goes there I just never had the discipline to do or to think as such but I uh it's it's never

too late right guys it's never too late it's never too late do you have any like habits that you want to God my habits I don't sleep enough oh yeah I drink way

too much coffee MH I uh I'm an absolute workaholic okay and I also have bad posture so a lot of bad habits yeah you know I think workaholic is kind of a

good thing though it could be a good thing it could be a bad thing I'm at a point in my life where I'm trying to force myself or allow myself to take

time off and it's been really really hard yeah because as a creative person as I'm sure you know you have to allow yourself

to be quiet and to be bored yeah yeah yeah yeah to come up with new ideas and to write a new song or write a new or to understand a character to play on screen

yeah but like we're talking about with the chaos that's what we're so used to and we're so scared of losing that yeah but I think in if we lost that chaos and

we gained the silence we would also gain a bigger perspective yeah definitely but it's so hard to go to the it's so hard so that's like what I'm working on I

thought this summer would be my time off but it's suddenly become not why why why just like random things that

are happening like uh album Deluxe album plus like some new potential things that I'm projects that I'm starting which I'm

all very grateful for yeah why are you laughing I'm very grateful for but at the same time you're like uh I kind of wish I had the time to to chill you know

yeah you got you like I feel like when you need to chill definitely like if you think of the like for example like I'm going to rest in July it's never going

to happen like you have to just do it like at that moment I I know yeah it's just so hard it is hard it's it's very very hard it is hard um we'll get there you'll get there I think doing great

yeah we're doing great we're doing great yeah yeah um we're kind of coming to the end of the interview the conversation um but is there anything that you wanted to talk about anything that you just like

pondering these days or anything you wanted to ask me or anybody here at dive or anything if you don't have anything that's totally fine as well no pressure no pressure is the

most um what music do you listen to these days what music do I listen to these days yeah uh I'm listening

to let's see Olivia Dean Olivia Dean yeah she's a British uhhuh singer okay and I found her like last year and she's

so cool she's between like to me like pop and Jazz and classic uhhuh uh Benson Boon um his new album is really great

and I haven't listen to the new Taylor Swift album but I've heard it's great so that's probably my my next full listening I'm just a pop person so I

just love pop music yeah how about you what are you listening to these days that's kind of why I asked like I'm listening I'm I'm always listening to

old songs oh really yeah like literally what I listened to back in like 2013 14 15 16 but there's something

about nostalgic songs that are just comforting no exactly like what's like your your comfort go-to song what are some of your comfort go-to songs Comfort

goto song I know it's super random but Sexy Can I by r can't that is so Random I know but that was like one of my

favorite songs back in WoW wait did you also say Jay holiday earlier J holiday did you not say that I thought you said Jay holiday I was like that is such a a deep R&B reference oh really yeah and I

was like wow okay sexy can I but sexy can I like um just friends by music Soul Child uhhuh like those and then there's super random like All the Small Things

by Blink 182 like it's all very random yeah but I'm like yeah always listening to like old songs cool are you a are you a Paramore fan as well I used to like

Paramore there was this one song that I used to really love into still into that was like in Middle School where I was like I was obsessed with

paramor for a while yeah yeah I I love that you have such a a diverse yeah listening range very diverse yeah yeah that's awesome are you watching anything

fun these days TV shows movies um I'm watching num right now and I just finished three I haven't watched any of these

things you haven't I haven't watched any of them do you not watch like TV I do but I watch a lot of like mid watch yeah I watch a lot of American TV shows what

has been going on in like I have no idea I'm just going to send you a list yeah of all these things that you got to watch yeah but I uh I just watch a lot

of American dramas MH because Korean dramas are great but they're a too addictive uhhuh and B they're so long oh really they're so they're like 90 minute

episodes oh like per episode yeah like num was what like 18 episodes probably I don't know 16 16 90 minutes each 90 huh

don't try to downplay this the length I know it's like 90 minutes so 90 * 16 is like 1,400 minutes oh wow

yeah that's a lot of time that's a lot of time but I that makes me so happy like thinking that there's that much to watch it makes me so happy you know what

this is I'm really happy for you for me I'm like that is so much to have I have to watch and so I uh I try to keep them pretty short but um recently whatever I

been watching I think it's called freef fall it's on Amazon Prime Amazon Prime it's really it's really wacky oh really I think it's called I forgot I forget what it's

called but it's it's based on a video game and it's really weird Fallout fallout Fallout I'm on episode one but I was

like Fallout it's based on a video game yeah um but my friend was like oh this is like has really really good reviews you have to watch it who that really

wild can't remember did you watch Dune no I did not I really want to watch is it good it was fine I mean it was great

pun B Timothy's in it yay um I it's just so long oh really it's like three hours long and the first June I watched I watched I watched both

in theaters the first one I was like this is so boring I don't know what I watch second one was better but it was still very long M so if you have a lot of time yeah and

you're just like at home you're just going to lay there yeah go for it okay I will yeah what's your all-time favorite

mus I don't know I don't put me on the spot what he said Esa and I was like well hold on I'm going to get back to

you on that that's a very tough question okay I have a lot of really really f favorite shows I don't have favorites you know I know like you're favorites

like I have not one but like a lot of favorites I can't pick yeah it's I've always been that way people are like what's your favorite food I was like yeah you're very hard to like analyze me

yeah do are you do you analyze people I analyze people so it's like very like tped up here right now am I confusing you I love it I love that I'm stressful

I'm sorry um yeah no I'm like I think what it is for me is like I grew up in so in multiple situations that were so

different from each other so like I had to kind of be a chameleon according to what social situation I was in I was always in

very polarizing situations and so because of that I've always learned to appreciate so many different things instead of saying this

is the one thing that I love or this is the one right way to do something m which is when I'm young when I was young was like very confusing and very stressful but when I look back at it it

was like oh it allows me to not have favorites but kind of enjoy so many things and so sometimes it's frustrating and really annoying uhuh but then I think about I'm

like it's not bad yeah yeah but definitely I feel you on that cuz I've also been in so many of those situations so um I know exactly what that feels like I guess yeah I guess for you too cuz you grew you were

you born in Tokyo I was born in Korea you born in Korea raised in Tokyo went to an international school so it was like yeah very confusing very confusing did you growing

up I guess have a very hard time with that or was it like it is what it is like I was very good at ignoring like that kind of part of my life where it's

like you know like some deep people would be like where is home you know like but I was really good at like kind of like whatever yeah yeah yeah like whatever

tough out like does matter tough up yeah I had that kind of mindset so it wasn't really confusing but like as like growing up like even right now I'm kind

of like starting to realize like because of those things why I think the way I do and like like you said being in polarized situations allowed me to be like have this

chameleon you know yeah it's it's a I think it's a blessing in disguise for sure that a lot of people who grew up in multiple

cultures have to deal with and if you're able to utilize it uh and learn from it you're set up to actually do very well in any situation yeah though it is very

stressful at times yeah anyways I feel like we could talk forever but I feel like we've taken way too much of your time and we got to let you go because you have so many things that I'm sure you got to get ready for with your

comeback and your tour and the new album and the promotions and all those things but regardless uh of all that thank you so much for being here thank you so much for having me of course anytime anytime

you want to come to TBO show or any of our shows or be part of our our fun things you let us know yeah and we would love to have you thank you um and

hopefully we can stay in touch yes um and before we go we have a small gift bag for you of our thank you oh and I have I got this

for you too I got a this is my latest album wow oh thank you figured why not oh hope you I'll have to send you our

new album when that comes out I would I would love to get your first LP yes yes I'll get that to oh you have a p cut

too hey what'd you get oh man who's that guy I have no idea yeah congratulations thank you so much oh my god um but yeah

that's the album and then we have some merch in there that is exclusive impossible to find OG first

run limited edition dive Studios merch really yeah what oh sorry what an honor it is it is I promise you one of the most comfortable hoodie and sweatpants

you will ever wear oh my God I love hoodies and sweatpants so please enjoy okay definitely going to wear this next thank you so much thank you so much

um everybody please be sure to check out espa's new album that is coming very very soon maybe it's out right now by the time this episode airs and be sure to check them out on tour if they are in a city or a town near you be sure to

give Jazelle and the ladies a lot of love um anything you would like to say to our viewers and listeners thank you dive Studios and thank you Eric for um

you know having such a nice and meaningful conversation with me I had such a good time and I hope I can see you guys soon again on dive Studios and

yeah please um show our album a lot of love amazing thank you so much all right we have one tradition that we we ask all of our guests to do as an outro we ask

them to improvise an outro jingle or outro wrapup of any kind uhhuh and it could literally like just like peace Dan or like just this dumbest little Melody

okay and it's sometimes people just like it's a TX show bye and they leave you could do anything you could even whisper some sort of outro for the show some

does it have to have like a like a word in it like TBO show or like dive Studios no you can do whatever you want like doesn't matter we usually ask to put the

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