How to Use AI to Make Money, Save Time, and Change Your Life

Women are adopting AI 25% less than men.

>> It has exploded. It has accelerated. And

I don't want to get left behind. I don't

want women in particular to lean back

and get left behind.

>> My hope is that these groups see AI as a

source of agency and not of anxiety.

>> Let's start at the beginning. What is

AI? AI at its core is just a system

attempting to do a humanlike thing that

could be as crazy as self-driving cars,

your Roomba in your house. AI is

actually so much more than everything

that we've seen in the last couple

years. These systems are so accessible.

We have never had tech be as accessible

as it is today.

every single job that we already have

out there, marketing manager, legal,

finance, will be AI supported and you'll

have a switch in the types of things

that you are doing.

>> Maybe instead of saying AI is coming for

my job, the reframe is AI is a part of

my job. And if you're worried about it,

don't sit back. If you're worried about

it, this is when you lean in. people

that take advantage of it now are going

to gain this velocity that is going to

be really hard to catch up on in the

next 2 years. If you have not been using

AI, use it. Not because I'm telling you

you have to use it every single day or

else, you know, the world will explode,

but I'm saying I want your voice in the

conversation.

Alli Miller, welcome to the Mel Robbins

podcast. Thank you for having me. I am

really excited to talk to you because I

know this is going to be a conversation

where I selfishly am going to learn so

much. This is a topic I've been dying to

have an expert on. I am so glad we could

pull you off all the stages where you're

speaking around the world and have you

here in our Boston studios. I would love

to start by having you tell me how is my

life going to be different if I take to

heart everything that you're going to

teach me today about AI and I put it to

use in my day-to-day life. If you take

everything that I'm about to share to

heart, you are going to learn how to use

AI, which is the most basic value that I

could deliver to you, you are going to

save time. You are going to get more

support that you need in your life, in

your work. You are going to expand your

capabilities and your superpowers and

you are going to be shocked by what you

can actually get done with these

systems.

>> I love that because you talk a lot about

the fact that you can use AI and the

thing you're most excited about is that

it can help you become the best version

of yourself.

>> Yes.

>> You actually believe that?

>> 100%. Because I've seen it in my own

life. I teach millions of people how to

use AI. I've seen it in their lives,

too. Whether you are a 91year-old

grandmother, whether you are just out of

college and you're freaking out, not

even knowing what to do, I've seen the

change happen. So, I am sharing with you

every single thing that I've shared for

the last 10 years online, hopefully as

fast as humanly possible, and I can't

wait to share it. In addition to saving

you time, because I always want to do

that, right? Efficiency is key. There

are some transformational ways that you

can use AI to improve your life, to lead

the life that you want to be leading.

Whether that is getting research done on

a topic you've always been interested

in, whether that is developing a workout

plan in the way that you've always

wanted to do it, whether that is having

a better relationship with your kid, I

want you to live the life you want to be

living and not be held back by the

environment or context around you.

Let's start at the beginning.

>> Great.

>> What is AI?

>> If I could give the most simple

explanation.

>> Dear God, please

>> because it's overwhelming, Ally, like I

wanted you here because every time I

turn on the turn on the TV. I don't even

watch the TV. Every time I log on.

>> Yeah.

>> Especially YouTube. It's AI is coming

and the robots are going to kill you and

steal your jobs and we're doomed and

it's already out. And I'm like, well,

hold on a minute. I'm not even sure I

understand what it is and how to use it.

>> And so let's start at the baseline

thing.

>> What is it and how does it work? Can you

just explain it for those of us that

kind of think we know?

>> Yes. So AI as an umbrella term has been

around for decades. The term AI was

invented in the 50s. Um, so AI at its

core is just a system attempting to do a

humanlike thing. Okay? That could be as

crazy as self-driving cars. That could

be your Roomba in your house. That could

be your spam filter in Gmail. All of

that counts as AI.

>> Don't come after my vacuum. That's all

I've got to say. I don't even have one.

>> Vacuum might come after you. We don't

have

>> I don't want that. Okay. So, so any

so a you could think about AI as any

computer program that is attempting to

do what a human being typically does.

>> A system Yeah. attempting to do a human

thing. Whether it does it in the method

that a human does it kind of open for

question.

>> Okay.

>> But it's whether the end user upon

seeing the the final writing, the final

tweet, the final image, the final video

goes, "Yeah, okay. A human could have

done that."

Generative AI is a subset of that which

has also been around for decades. The

new thing now is good generative AI,

highquality generative AI. Generative AI

that changes the way that we might check

emails, write emails, or completely

build our business, right? Generative AI

is an AI system that is looking at big

amounts of patterns. Picture the whole

internet. Picture like all of Wikipedia

and a whole bunch of the internet thrown

into this model. And the model picks up

on patterns. And so it's looking at

patterns that we as humans are probably

going to miss out. It might be picking

up on every time you say the word zebra,

the word black and white tends to be

around that word. And horse tends to be

around that word, but penguin is nowhere

near it, right?

>> So it's picking up on a bunch of these

patterns and then it is using all of

that pattern recognition

>> to very awesomely generate net new

things. So it's not copying and pasting.

It's generating brand new stuff, brand

new images, tweets, emails, novels,

movies, blog posts, whichever. So

generative AI subset of AI where it

makes new stuff. So what about a plane

flight?

>> What about a plane flight?

>> So in the old days, like 3 years ago.

>> Okay.

Well, in the old old days, you would

call a travel agent, right? Then in the

next iteration of that, you would go to

the airline website. Yeah.

>> Then in the next generation, which is

where I am,

>> so I'm stuck in the kind of modern old

way of doing it, I go to Google. I go to

the Google and I put in my like flights

on a date and then I get a list.

>> But then when I get the list, I have to

look

>> and pick out the flight.

>> You're not going to do that anymore.

>> Okay. What am I going to do? And can you

explain how AI is making my life easier?

>> Yes.

>> Go. Okay, let's say that the reason

you're looking up a flight, let's say

that you're planning a family vacation

or something. Yep.

>> Okay, instead of what we used to do for

the last 20 years when we've Googled

these things, right,

>> you would Google flights from Boston to

Atlanta right?

>> You would then have to filter non-stop,

onetop, different airlines because you

got points there, points there,

whatever.

>> And you would still have to be that big

filter mechanism.

>> New age,

>> you're going to go into one of these

systems. it's going to have access to

the internet and instead of going pull

me all the flights from Boston to

Atlanta, you're actually gonna say, "My

family of five wants to go somewhere

warm in September. Uh, we are, you know,

thinking about Charleston, Savannah, but

we want to try something new. We're

thinking 3 days, maybe it's five. We've

already gone to, you know, Scottdale.

Here's three reasons why we liked it.

Here's two reasons we like Texas. Here's

four reasons we're thinking about

Bermuda. Uh, my, you know, son's

allergic to strawberries. my my daughter

really wants to stay hydrated, my other

daughter wants to do yoga, whatever.

You're going to be able to feed in that

amount of context and before you even

decide that you wanted to pick Atlanta,

it's going to act as that co-pilot

because you're bringing in all that

context.

>> So, in addition to it finding your

flights, which again, you could totally

Google that. I still Google things to be

clear. it in in addition to finding

those flights, it is going to help you

create an entire action plan around this

vacation. So it's basically going to

make a recommendation based on all the

things you told it and crunching all the

data and what other people have searched

for and given a thumbs up and thumbs

down

>> based on uh not even things that people

have searched for based on just anytime

people have written about things that

are kind of similar to Atlanta or

Savannah or or someplace that is totally

not similar right a sauna it might be

some sort of relation where people go

okay in warm places maybe you do this

hobby instead of that hobby. So that

would be so helpful. It's incredibly

helpful. And what I think a lot of

people miss uh is that these systems can

add so much more action into your life.

It also immediately made me feel as a

mom

because you're managing so many

different variables on anything that

you're actually searching for

>> that being able to turn all of those

concerns and variables and but this but

that but this what are the right flights

to get us to the same airport or train

station at roughly the same time. I felt

like a giant exhale. And one of the

reasons why I was so excited to talk to

you is it's already here.

We use it in just about every aspect of

the way that we work at the Mel Robbins

podcast and 143 Studios. And and

I have not

started using it

>> in my daytoday life.

>> Okay. And it is kind of everywhere. And

I noticed that, and maybe you notice as

you're listening to Ally or watching

this right now, that your phone needs

more updates than ever because every app

is having an update because it's got AI

in it. And so it's already here. And so

I was excited to talk to you because

it has exploded. It has accelerated. And

I don't want to get left behind. I don't

want women in particular to lean back

and get left behind. And I'd love to

hear what is the takeaway

for someone listening to this

conversation about the opportunity

that is available to you if you lean

into

utilizing the power of this in your

day-to-day life. I like to think of it

in a couple different categories. The

obvious one that I think people read a

lot about and and pick up a lot more

quickly is the productivity side is

doing things that you're already doing

today faster.

>> Give me a couple quick examples.

>> Writing emails faster, writing blog

posts faster, taking your blog post,

creating a video out of it faster,

right? Like like the idea that just

speed and uh the the idea that we can

synthesize an article, right? All of

that is things that you would already be

doing. You'd already read the article,

but it's able to do it a lot more

quickly okay?

>> Or and at at a bigger scale as well,

right? I can synthesize 10,000 pages in

a paragraph in like a minute.

>> That is the category of doing things

faster.

>> Second category is doing things better.

>> And this is what everyone is missing out

on, which is yes, I could use it to to

cheat on my college essay. you're not

recommending that.

>> I am never going to recommend that. But

to think that you should not use AI in

that process might also be wrong. So

anytime that I'm coming up with like a

big plan, right? Let's say that I'm

coming up with a plan for how I want to

show up to this podcast. I might uh ask

AI to interview me and ask like go full

Mel Robbins on me and just say, "Hey,

ask me 20 questions to get out more

information that I can work from." I

might say, "Here's my plan. What are

five risks that I might not be thinking

about and what are ways to mitigate

those risks?" I might say, "What are 10

crazy ways to make this, you know, more

interesting?" And maybe it tells me to

bring a yellow pen cuz it's all male

branded. And obviously that's, you know,

a small small example, but your work can

be so much better. And I think so many

people fall into this productivity trap.

Whereas, you know, my team, we put on

this AI first conference. We ran our

entire agenda through AI and said,

"Think from the viewpoint of these five

different people, right? We had these

like synthetic personas. Think from the

viewpoint of the busy CEO, the really

busy parent who has too much stuff going

on with their work and their kids and

their parents. Think from the viewpoint

of these three other people. And now

review my entire conference plan and

give me 10 ways to improve it, 20 new

ideas we haven't thought of, 30 ways

that it could go wrong, 40 ways to make

it uh a better bonding experience for

the team. And so making it better, not

just faster so that you also don't feel

like a drone trapped behind your

computer with all these thousand

pop-ups. And the third, which is even

harder to figure out, is doing new

stuff,

right? So doing things that you're

already doing today but faster things

you're already doing today but better

and then net new holy cow can you even

believe I did that and I'll give you one

example here just because it's personal

life it's not you know lifech changing

right when you hear it but then you hear

a little bit of value on you go wow they

really did that woman that I talked I

joined like a maong club in in New York

obviously

>> my shout out to my mother she taught me

ma I'm I love the clicking noise and I

love playing it okay Heck yeah. You and

your, you know, like your mother and I

are going to be best friends. So, this

woman wanted to become a better maong

player because it allowed her to bond

better with these people in this club.

She used AI as a non-coder to create an

entire app to teach her how to play

maong to drill her on the tiles to drill

her on the you know combinations so that

she wasn't using her time buried in this

little notebook of the different rules

so she could spend that time actually

hanging with these people and creating

lasting friendships. So again the AI

component of that is not the coolest

part of that story. the AI component,

generating her own app, building it in a

couple days, and now she uses it

literally on the subway to train. It

allowed her to create more value in her

life

>> that could not exist as a non-coder

before. These systems are are so

accessible. We have never had tech be as

accessible as it is today. We've never

had the ability for non-coders to jump

in. And women are adopting AI 25% less

than men. And I just think about what

societal opportunities we're missing out

on, what economic opportunities we're

missing out on. It it is such a big jump

that people feel that they have to take.

And actually, it's really just about

opening up this thing, testing out a few

prompts, and just getting your feet wet.

Your gears are going to start turning,

right? Your listeners are brilliant

people. I read your comments. They are

brilliant, brilliant folks. It is all

about giving yourself the best chance of

being able to capitalize on these tools

and build the value that you want in

your life.

>> What do you say to the person who's

nodding along and is like, "That sounds

really cool. Never thought about how I

could use it to, you know, be faster,

better, or do things I never even

imagined."

but they're not sure

and they're kind of waiting for the

right moment to jump in and learn AI.

Ally, what do you want to say if that's

you?

>> 5 4 3 2 1. Right. You just I I I want to

dispel people of the myth that there is

perfection in our lives. Period. Right.

in our in our financial decisions, in in

the way that we decide to make dinner

that night or hang out with our kids

that day. We're we're waiting for

something that doesn't exist in our

lives. And so, at least when I look at

people that I look up to that are

successful, it's people who jumped in

and did the thing.

>> And I would also say that it's not a

it's not that big of a leap. The people

who are winning in AI are not these big

crazy risky decision makers. It's people

who are taking these quick little wins

and quickly iterating and creating a

little system of adaptability. It's

people who actually think a little bit

smaller and get those, you know, their

their feet wet. Here's how I think about

it. I think about it like having a

personal executive assistant. like all

of the things you wish somebody else

could handle. Whether it's, you know,

coming up with the perfect workout

routine if you want to have more defined

calves, learning a better walking loop

in your neighborhood when you only have

20 minutes, uh figure like I just feel

like there's so many ways you could use

it

>> that I personally have only just

scratched the surface. I think of

there's like four interaction modes that

I think about and again most people are

stuck at step one and so for the person

listening please do something to try one

of these three others.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. Number one microtasker. That's

like the make a meal plan for these 20

people that are going out to dinner. Two

people are gluten-free. One person only

likes ham. Whatever. And you're going to

be able to very quickly do that. Um that

might also be the flight search example.

Number two is as a real time companion.

>> Okay, what does that mean?

>> You can just pull up these systems and

be in a live video chat. And so, as an

example,

>> why would you want to do that?

>> I went to a board game bar and my friend

and I had 45 minutes and I could have

spent 20 of those 45 minutes evaluating

every single game that existed and we'd

only have 25 minutes to play. Instead, I

opened up video mode and I am just

scanning through and I go, "We have two

people, 45 minutes. I want an easy game.

I want to have fun. Tell me which one."

>> What you're saying is that you can open

up video mode, scan an environment, and

it's almost like having a guide and a

decision maker to help you assess what's

happening. Could you do that if you're

lost somewhere?

>> Uh, it's scary. good at picking up on

like locations, especially if you're in

something recognizable. If you're in the

middle of nowhere and you're using

Google because it has Google Maps tapped

in, it might be pretty good. In general,

I wouldn't trust it for being honest. I

would just open up ways or Google Maps

or something.

>> Gotcha. The I understand this is like I

think a lot of us have discovered the

ability to take a photo and then search

what's in the photo by putting it in a

search engine. You're basically saying

there's a second step where you can use

the video scanning or like open up the

video. I didn't even know this existed.

So already I'm like you can do that.

>> My my so many people have ADHD.

My my willingness to get something done

>> goes crazy high when I know that I'm not

alone in that task, whatever it is. So,

I have been in a live uh video stream

with AI where I'm screen sharing what is

on my screen and I am navigating Etsy to

pick to pick out like the perfect gift,

right? And I'm just having a chat back

and forth, but it's like being in a

Google Meet with an AI that can see

everything that you see. So, it's

literally the same as you typing in

>> the meal plan that you want, but instead

this is like open up your fridge and

scan it with the video AI mode and go

tell me what I can make with this.

>> I have an

>> I needed this 20 years ago.

>> We've got

>> How do I turn this on? Like, this is the

level at which I'm at.

>> So, I'll give you one example. I am a

terrible cook. Okay, everyone that knows

me knows this, but my sister told me

that cooking is just chopping things up

and heating things up. And so I'm trying

to get better at this, but the recipes

part eludes me. And I take a photo of my

fridge, a photo of my pantry, and I hit

enter, and it tells me exactly what I

can make. It gives me a couple recipes

that are uh that have ingredients that

are missing, and it tells me the exact

grocery shopping list that if I go to

Trader Joe's, I can grab. So that is

something that has saved me literal

hours

>> and money

>> and money

>> and food that didn't go to waste

>> 100%. I'm no longer

>> emotions that I feel because I feel like

a bad person for wasting the food and

then I feel like an idiot for not being

organized enough.

>> I live in New York so this is a lot

easier for me to do. I'll walk down the

street and have an entire conversation

with an AI system. I will talk through a

problem just to be like devil's

advocate. Am I the [ __ ] Right? And I

will just talk through this idea as if

I'm on the phone call with someone.

>> Wow.

>> I can do this at two o'clock in the

morning.

>> What's the third interaction type? So if

you've got the prompting now, we have

sort of the live video voice thing real

time acting like an assistant like

helping you out here. Okay. What's the

third?

>> Two others. You've got delegate which is

really happening right now where you can

give AI a 20 minute task and it'll come

back to you with an answer. So, you

might say, uh, you know, let's say that

you're a teacher and, uh, you really

want to come up with a new lesson plan

for chemistry. You can say to any of

these agent tools, you can say, I'm a

teacher, you know, I want to be able to

pull off a new thing in chemistry. Uh, I

can upload screenshots upon screenshots

of all of the years of reviews that I've

gotten from students. I can feed it all

into the system and I can say I want to

come up with a new chemistry plan. Go

online, find me a hundred other examples

and create an entire spreadsheet for me,

an entire document summarizing this and

an entire pamphlet that designs the you

know PowerPoint around it so that I come

back to it 20 minutes later and I

already have this fully done report for

me.

>> Wow. So I am constantly delegating big

big planning tasks particularly things

that are rooted in research or data

entry because that's where AI is still

really good.

>> You know what's super exciting about

that for anybody that has

>> typically kind of a business or a

anything that it's kind of just you

you're a realtor

>> or you're a teacher or you're a nurse or

whatever it may be and you're like who

do I give this to? I need a website. I I

don't know how to I don't have anybody

to delegate it to. I don't have the

money to do that kind of thing. You're

telling us that there are tools

available now for free that are your

team that you can learn how to use

pretty quickly that can do all of this

work that for years you've had nobody

there to do. Whether it's social media

stuff, whether it's a business plan,

whether it's a website, whether it's an

app, whether it's a marketing plan,

whether it's analyzing what the realer

competitor that you hate is doing that

you want to do like all of it. It's like

a free research assistant.

>> And I think solarpreneurs used to feel

like they were deserted on an island and

that no one understood them. They had no

help. Right? AI gives you 20% of a

marketing person, 20% of a customer

support person. We're still going to use

amazing video editors for stuff like

this podcast, right? But the average

person is now able to record themselves

for an hour, upload this video to a

tool, and immediately get 15 clips that

they can post. And those 15 clips come

already pre-cut, already captioned. I

know people that are taking their

Instagram videos and immediately turning

them into Spanish and posting those on a

second channel. The reach that you can

have, the impact that you can have has,

you know, increased by 20%, 10x,

whatever. And so many people aren't

taking advantage of it because I think

deep down they feel like it's wrong or

it's cheating or something like that.

But people that take advantage of it now

are going to gain this velocity that is

going to be really hard to catch up on

in the next two years.

>> What is the fourth interaction type?

>> Teammate, which for folks that might be

at bigger companies, uh for folks that

are, you know, maybe they're part of the

marketing department or something. Think

about yes, you said they all had their

executive assistant. What if your entire

team just got a little helper? So, as an

example, you know, maybe you record all

of your meetings with one of these

tools. Suddenly, you can have an AI

system that is sending out automated

reports every single Friday morning to

your entire team going, "What did we not

do today? What's the status of this

project? What's the latest?" Because

it's able to grab from documents. It's

able to read Google Drive. It's able to

look at Gmail. And so, it is lifting up

the tide of your entire team. What is

the biggest mistake you tend to make

when you start using AI and how do you

fix this mistake?

>> I'd say the average person is not

bringing in enough context.

>> Okay,

>> they're coming into these systems and

they're going, "Plan me a family

vacation to Greece.

>> Okay,

>> who's your family? What vacations have

you taken before?" Right? Or you're

coming in and you're you're let's say

you built you you're building a house,

right? Or you just bought a new

apartment and you come in and you just

say, "Help me fix my apartment. Help me

be more organized in my apartment."

>> So, how would you do that with the

apartment? Cuz my daughter just moved

into a new apartment.

>> Fantastic.

>> Every day I'm getting a call. Yep.

>> Overwhelmed. Because you forget that

when you move into an apartment, there's

not a spoon,

>> there's not a hanger,

>> there's not a waste paper basket.

>> Yes.

>> And then it's overwhelming. Yes.

>> And so how would you use it? Because you

said the biggest mistake is context. So

I get it with the vacation because you

be like my kids are these ages. This is

many days. These are the dates. This is

what we like to do. So the more context

the more it could help. How do you do

the apartment?

>> So apartment. Let's say that you give,

you know, a photo of your apartment, the

square footage, photos of your previous

apartment, concerns that you had about

your previous apartment. I didn't have

enough storage. I didn't have enough

place for my board games. I didn't get

enough natural light at my desk. Right?

So, you can share all that. You can say,

"And I'm also worried that someone's

going to walk in and see my bed unmade."

Right? Boom. Think about how how AI

might solve that. And uh I'm concerned

that people are going to think I don't

have enough furniture or that I have too

much furniture or that I'm going to have

>> or how do I make it look like this is

full when I only have

>> 100%.

>> Like the money for a second. Could you

actually say find me a couch?

>> Yes.

>> I have this much money. Yes.

>> Scan online. Yes,

>> that has delivery

>> 100%.

>> Oh my god.

>> I went to an AI system and I said, I

want to find a watch. I want to find a

watch that's less than $50 AI themed. I

only want it to be square or circle. I

don't like anything that's rectangle. I

only like black and gold. I need it to

be whatever. I give it 15 parameters.

And I said, go.

It is working. And by the way, I can see

it working the whole time.

>> The wheel is spinning.

>> No, because I'm literally watching it

navigate websites. Imagine that it goes

into another room and it, you know,

opens up the laptop and it just works on

its own. You're watching it, right? Just

like an IT person would like tap into

your computer. You're literally watching

it navigate and scroll and click and

>> wait, so is it controlling your

computer?

>> It is controlling a virtual computer

that you're just watching like an

observer.

>> Are there risks to using agent mode? I

mean, this sounds amazing, but I'm just

>> There are defin there are risks of

everything. The main risk to think about

would be let's say that you're saying I

want to buy a couch and at some point

you're going to go add it to my Wayfair

cart and I want to check out right or

I'm buying this thing from Ashley. How

do I give it my credit card?

>> Right? You're going to take over that

screen.

>> Got it.

>> It's not looking in that moment. You

type in your credit card details and you

say, "Okay, I'm done." And the AI model

goes, "Sure." and you go, "Yeah, yeah,

yeah, I'm done." And then you come back

in and you keep going. So, anytime

you're logging in, anytime you're giving

financial details, that's going to be an

extra layer of concern. But these

systems are not tracking that that

remote control.

>> That is so cool. I I'm like, I I don't

want to talk to you anymore. I want to

go try this. I

>> We can spin up the laptop right here. I

love this stuff.

>> I I It's pretty incredible. Um, as

somebody who's advised top companies and

even governments on how to use AI, what

is one simple trick that everybody

misses that would instantly save time

for you if you try this and it would

save time every day.

>> Can I give you two? One that is very

easy, one that's

>> five. Yes, go for it.

>> Okay. The one that is very easy that

everyone can start with is having AI

interview you,

>> right? coming to it with a problem and

just saying I need to redesign my

apartment. I need to uh come up with a

plan on how to keep my mother

entertained when she visits. Right? You

come to it with a problem and then you

instead of coming with this whole long

prompt, you can say, "I don't really

know how to solve this problem. Help me

help you. Ask me 5, 10, 20 questions."

And then you're going to turn on

dictation and you're just going to talk

and complain and ramble and you're going

to say, "I'm thinking about this. I'm

worried about this. I tried this. This

didn't work. You know, here are five

things that I know I'm good at. Five

things I think I'm bad at. Three ways

that my boss is yelling at me. Two

people that I want to hire." Whatever

sort of context you need to bring in.

Ramble, ramble, ramble. Enter. I do this

when I'm at the hair salon, right? I

just have it ask me questions and while

I'm sitting there with the die on my

head, I just whisper to it for 20

minutes and I'm able to get four hours

work done in 20 minutes. That is a crazy

easy one, right? Go Mel Robbins mode. Go

Barbara Walters mode. Ask for AI to

interview you. The second way weirder

one that is my favorite hack is

synthetic personas. It is creating fake

profiles of people that you might be uh

pitching to, people that you might be

working with. I know a woman who create,

this is insane, by the way, but I love

it. I know a woman who created a

synthetic persona of her husband because

she wanted to have the family go to

Disney World. And the last time she

asked, he said no. So, she practiced

against this synthetic persona and then

was able to come to it with, "Hey,

here's the perfect pitch." And the

husband goes, "Oh my god, it sounds like

a great idea." Well, I recently, I

think, did this. I went to one of the

models. I went to Microsoft Copilot and

put in I I I Okay, I'm not going to tell

the long story, but I basically was

trying to write a strategic apology to

somebody with a very challenging

personality

and in order to diffuse a situation.

And I went to it, explained the

situation, it spit out the card. It

worked like a charm because it acted

like the person that I described and

then I told it the situation and said,

"What could I write in a card that I'm

going to mail to somebody that would

diffuse this situation?"

>> I know.

>> It was genius. This is this is

brilliant. And I want people whether you

are uh extremely extroverted and you

feel like you're pitching all the time,

right? You can still be better. I know

of there was a gentleman that that told

me he was terrified to quit his job.

>> So terrified that he almost didn't quit

his job because the fear and the shame

of that moment of maybe I won't do it

right was was halting his progress and

ability to go to the dream job that he

actually wanted. And it was so

paralyzing that it was going to change

the trajectory of his life if he didn't

do this. and he went to AI and he goes,

"How am I supposed to do this? How does

someone do this? I've never had to quit

a job, right? How do I deal with a boss

that's going to push back? What if they

offer me more money? How do I say no to

that? Uh how should I write this letter?

In what order should I send this

letter?" And that sort of life change

that someone can experience. And you,

you know, you got to get through that in

a much lower stress way. You got to get

back to the thing you actually wanted to

do. Well, you know what's interesting

about it is first of all, you keep

reminding us the amount of context you

give it is critical and is directly

related to the value of the information

you're going to get back. The second

thing is is that what you're doing when

you take the time to think through

scenarios and you take the time to get

really present to either the thing that

you're worried about or the thing you

really want to achieve and then you

utilize a tool like this to make

yourself

smarter and more effective is you're

just using all of the foundational

psychological principles called if then

planning.

You are using all of the things that

human beings have done forever. You're

just utilizing a data set to help you do

it faster and better. And then that

makes you more confident and more

equipped to go into the your real life

and follow the advice that feels right

for you. It's like practicing. It is a

brilliant view into this space because

so many people look at it as faster

Google when it's actually a prostthesis

for reinvention, right? There is so much

you can do with it that just searching

faster

almost feels limiting. I have this

postit on my desk that says, "Use AI to

become the person you want to be." And

it helps me get out of that productivity

trap

>> where again I'm just using it to write

emails faster or I'm just using it to uh

you know to find information. It reminds

me that the real challenge of these

systems is wait a second. How can I take

all the excuses that I've had over the

last I'm not going to say how old I am,

but how can I take all the excuses and

get rid of those excuses? Right? If I

had had this when I was starting my

business and I could go to it and say,

"How do I start an LLC? What are the big

concerns when I'm picking a lawyer? How

do I pick a good accountant? what are 20

questions to ask my first hire? I would

have been in such a better spot. And so

again, it's using AI to become that

person that you want to be. Not

overrelying on it, not misusing and

abusing it, not lazily offloading to it,

but using it as that method for

reinvention, tool for reinvention.

>> Um, what if I work for an employer who

isn't using AI?

>> Prepare to quit. Like we are three years

into the AI revolution

and if your employer is actively banning

this technology and in 3 years has not

yet carved out a safe responsible AI

policy that allows them to use it in the

work, you are at a massive disadvantage

for your work, your life, your career.

You're going to be less hirable in your

next couple roles. You know, maybe if

you're in manufacturing or plumbing or

HVAC or something, it's fine. I'm

talking about the knowledge workers who

could be leveraging this. Your company,

whether they're doing it intentionally

or not, they are putting you at a

massive disadvantage for the next

several years of your career. For that

person, I would say learn AI, raise your

hand, try and have AI, you know, be at

that company and say, can I lead it? Can

I take on the first project? Right?

That's an opportunity to be a big leader

in your org. If you are met with no and

they say I don't want to use the tool, I

don't trust it. You can't take on that

project. Leave your company. And I know

that that sounds like a privileged

statement and it it is to a certain

degree. You need to make a plan to do

that. Even if it means leaving and

working for yourself and being a coach

that uses AI, that is able to be more

efficient and is able to have more

clients that they can help. But we we're

3 years into this. A year into it, I

wouldn't have said that. 3 years into

it, I'm saying it.

>> Um, okay. We hear the call. We need to

leave. Now, I'm looking for a job. What

is the best way to use AI to help me

find a job that I love?

>> Number one is I would describe to AI

what you have done in the past and talk

through all of your previous roles.

describe the tasks that you took on and

very specifically the tasks you liked

and didn't like. I don't care if you've

been a a accountant for the last nine

years. Maybe you don't want to be an

accountant anymore, right? So, this is

an opportunity to give all that weird

nuance that you can't really give into a

Google search. So, what have you done?

What tasks have you taken on? What did

you like? What did you not like? What

were the concerns you had at previous

places? What types of companies do you

enjoy? Big companies, small companies.

Um, what what entices you about, you

know, going into the office every five

days, uh, going to the office five days

a week, working from home the whole

time, uh, remote and you get to fly to

Italy once a month or never traveling

because you're afraid of planes.

Whatever the thing is, you want to add

in all that context. And then you're

going to say, "Give me three jobs that I

am a, you know, perfect perfect fit for.

Give me five jobs that you think I could

be a fit for if I just told the right

story. Give me five jobs that I could be

a perfect fit for if I just took a

couple, you know, courses, Google

courses Microsoft LinkedIn whatever

courses. And give me five jobs that you

think that I really, really want to

reach for, but would be absolutely nuts

if I went for it and would take me a

year to make that pivot into, right? And

maybe that's going to tell you to go to

a big boot camp or get your masters in

some degree. That is the type of action

plan that you can get with AI. Once you

get that back, you're going to then say,

"Great. Here's my resume. What are 20

changes I should make? What are 13 ways

that I'm missing out on on making this

the perfect resume? Go out and find 150

examples of great rums. Go and find 20

blog posts from Google, Microsoft, or

from KPMG or BCG, wherever you want to

get hired, and have those blogs

synthesized. Give me five best practices

and give me exactly how I should edit my

resume. Great. Now you have an updated

resume. Now you have a, you know,

stronger action plan. Even the way

you're going to do the writing and the

outreach is going to be AI supported, is

going to be AI first, right? How can I

make a splash and work for you, Mel?

Maybe it's going to tell me to show up

at your offices and sing a telegram,

right? Like, we don't really know. But

you can ask for ways to stand out. You

can ask for ways to pitch yourself. You

can ask for ways to create your

narrative. and and even when you're in

the interview, you know, what are 20

questions I can ask this person to stand

out? Every little part of that job

search process can be AI first. And then

of course, being someone that knows how

to use AI is going to make your resume

that much stronger.

>> Sitting here listening now, I'm going

now I know I'm not getting hired by

anybody because I'm not doing any of

those things.

But seriously though, isn't it also

important because doing all that

optimizes your resume to be scanned by

AI?

>> Yeah. There's a weird there's this weird

um AI eating AI moment.

>> Uhhuh. that,

you know, even when we're shopping for

things online, if I have an AI agent

shop for me and the car brand that I'm

trying to buy from has an AI agent

answering all of its sales questions,

what are we doing? It's two AI agents

acting as proxies for these people

talking to one another. So, it can feel

very weird when you are creating things

with AI that is then read by an AI. What

I what I also want to advocate for is

there are so many ways to stand out that

have nothing to do with tech and online

application, whatever. You could, you

know, have AI help coach you through how

to ask a common friend for an

introduction. A lot of people feel very

uncomfortable around that. Have it coach

you through that moment of discomfort so

you can push back,

>> right?

>> There are so many ways that you can use

AI

>> in the process, not just doing the work

for you, writing your resume. And so

having it coach you to ask for that. Um

having it help you

post on LinkedIn and say, "I'm sorry I

got laid off. I'm in a situation where I

have these skills and I need help. I

don't usually ask for help this

publicly, but I need you." You've never

written that post before. AI can find a

thousand people who have posted that

before and can help you get through that

obstacle, that friction so that you can

get the life you want. I love that

because you're right. All of the things

you just walked us through will help you

leverage it for positioning yourself,

but you keep reminding us that AI can

also be this coach almost that can help

you do the preparation, figure out how

to have the conversation, uh, practice

the interview so that you're preparing

so that when the real life stuff

happens, you've actually prepared. Yeah.

Like using it that way is almost more

important because you're not hiding

behind it. You're using it to help you

be more of yourself and to be a better

communicator and be more effective.

>> Yes. I think there's a lot of online

discourse that AI is is ruining our

authenticity

>> when there are some people that could

lean into using AI and actually help you

live a more authentic life. I'm I'm a

weirdo in my life. Like I organized this

like big dumpling taste test for my

friends. I had a a friend who's a

violinist come play and all of us laid

down on the ground and just stared up at

like fake stars that I put up on the

ceiling. Like using AI to come up with

like weird whimsy ideas cuz Google's not

going to be able to do that. You can

live a more authentic life. Again, I'm

not offloading to AI. I'm having it

support me in the way that I want. So, I

think that's such an important idea

because I'm still bringing myself into

all these conversations, all these

relationships, my job, my client

conversations. You still have to be the

person who's authentic, the person who's

confident, the person who's earning

trust, you're not going to, until we

have brain computer interfaces, it's

still you. No matter how much you're

using AI,

>> I I would love to know, are there

topofminds for caregivers

to use AI? M

>> to save time or find support and help

that you can that you've heard of that

you can think of.

>> Absolutely. First, let me say there's an

AI use case for everything. As a

caregiver, one of my followers sent me

an entire app that he built out. Again,

does not require code. He is not a

coder. He is just someone who played

around enough to make this thing work.

Okay.

>> It summarizes all the emails that he

gets from his school, from his kids

school.

>> Y

>> so that he knows exactly what's

happening at the school. It summarizes

every week. It gives him a calendar. It

gives him action items. Okay. It even

looks at the emails that he gets from

his partner to be able to put that into

the summary. And every single morning,

automated, it gives him a summary to

look at. And so the caregivers that I

meet with, whether they're looking

after, you know, children or family

members or friends that they've taken in

or parents, there is just so much noise.

And for whatever reason, we've decided

it's a good idea as society to have like

20 different sources for this noise.

>> AI can act as a really strong

synthesizer that can pull in sources and

can summarize things for you and make it

digestible and can automate that sort of

check-in. Is there a particular prompt

that if the if you're listening and

you're like, "Okay, what's a problem

you're dealing with?" Whether you have

to um plan the first birthday party for

your kids and you're newly divorced and

you need advice or you are asking for a

raise at work and you're scared to do it

or you have a neighbor that plays their

music really loud and you don't know

what to do or as it was me this morning,

I couldn't turn on my new Dyson blow

dryer. Right? So like there is a problem

that you have.

It could be anything. What is the prompt

that you would recommend to the person

that is leaning into this for the first

time that helps you dip your toe into

the water to solve something big or

small that you have in your life?

One structure that you can use is I'm a

blank who's trying to blank. And by the

way, these blanks are long bits of

context.

>> I'm a 57year-old woman and mother of

three who is trying to turn on my hair

dryer and I can't figure it in the

hotel.

>> And I'm trying to right turn on that

blow dryer. I have tried plugging it

into multiple outlets. I have tried

hitting the reset button. I have tried

turning it off and on. I am nervous that

I'm going to electrocute myself. Okay.

>> I have doublech checked the manual.

Right? You can give it things that

you've tried before, things that you

want to do, things that you're worried

about,

>> um methods that you things that you

might want to get done. Really, all I

want to do is curl my hair. Right?

>> And then you can say

not just what's the answer, right? And

maybe blow dryer is one where you just

might say what's the answer, right? But

if it's something more complicated,

you're not just going to say, "What's

the answer?" You're going to ask for

tons of options for answers.

>> And then you will also ask the AI to

rank and score the answers.

>> Got

>> so you might be uh you had said yelling

at your neighbor.

>> I can give I can give you an even more

profound example. You're a caregiver

>> for your aging parents. Dad is

succumbing to dementia. Your three

siblings who live in different places

are not helping. You're at your wit's

end. That sounds like a problem.

>> Yes.

>> So, you write in there, I am a, you

know, whatever caregiver and this is the

situation and this is what I'm looking

to solve and what are all the different

answers?

>> Yes. And you can go crazy deep into

these prompts. In addition to asking for

the answers, you can also say, "What are

five ways I should even think about this

problem?" Right? And help me solution in

each of these ways.

>> You might say, "I've already tried these

three problems. here's how it blew up in

my face. Give me new ways of approaching

this. You might say, "I think I already

know the answer to this problem. Give me

three ways this might go wrong." So,

you're going to bring in that context

things just about yourself, about the

situation, the context that you're in,

the environment. It is a different

solution for every little problem. And

the joy that I have when I use these AI

systems is I tell it how weird and

unique my situation is because there's

no way that you could help me in my

unique situation. I am a perfect little

unique thing. No one's ever lived this

life. And it helps me think through that

problem.

>> Let's talk about accuracy.

So where is the tech at this point? It's

2025 in terms of just general AI and

accuracy of what it's spitting back to

you. I I I'll give you a example. Last

week, if you uh did a search for me, you

would find out I was divorced, that I

drive a Lamborghini.

There would be all other kinds of things

that are untrue.

the accuracy of these systems. Right

now, the best models have a

hallucination rate.

>> A who?

>> Yeah, let's first. Yeah, good call.

>> Hallucination rate.

>> It's like taking Iawasa or mushrooms

>> just making things up.

>> So, so when we talked about how these

systems are trained, right? We said give

it tons and tons of like millions of

gigabytes of information.

>> Okay. So the first thing is that these

systems were not trained to be factual

regurgitators. So the fact that it's so

accurate all the time, even with these

couple mistakes, the fact that it gives

answers that outperform PhDs is actually

pretty miraculous.

The remainder of it when it does

hallucinate, we're getting uh to the

point where models have a about 1%

hallucination rate. meaning like you ask

it 100 questions and maybe 1% of the

time it doesn't answer it on the first

or one of the first 50 tries. Uh

different benchmarks, whatever. But

hallucinations have dropped a lot.

>> Wait, so is hallucinations

just a term for it's wrong?

>> It's just it's it's when AI is spewing

incorrect stuff that it's just like

maybe Mel has a Lamborghini. Like

>> we're calling it hallucination. Well,

what I like about what you just said,

cuz now I get it,

>> is you're doubling down on the fact that

it's not quote fact, it's information.

>> And there are ways to increase the fact

so you can give it access to the

internet so that things are cited and

you can check the sources. You can then

check the source of the Lamborghini

thing and prove that it's

>> so it's got to guess. So if it's asking

for a car and it doesn't know, it might

be like, well, based on what we've heard

and the fact that she has this, ah, I

don't know. We're feeling Lamborghini,

not pickup truck. I don't know.

>> Whether you knew it or not.

>> Yes.

>> You just said something that took

researchers years to figure out.

>> What do you mean

>> it? We We're just now seeing research

around this space of why do we get

things wrong? Okay. Knowing that there

are ways to improve it. We can ground it

in information. We can uh use more

state-of-the-art models. Um we can give

it access to the internet, check

citations, all this stuff.

>> Yep.

Why does it still BS us? Why does it

still hallucinate? You just hit the nail

on the head, which is we told these

systems, be helpful to me.

>> And these systems converted that task

and said, oh, you want me to be helpful,

you want me to always answer because

when I say I don't know, that's not

helpful to you. So because these systems

were not given an off-ramp to say you

know they don't they're not allowed to

say I don't know because you have

trained them you've rewarded them

>> by answering you

>> you know I want to ask you as one of the

world's leading experts on AI you're

speaking on stages all over the world

you're a consultant to brands that

people really trust what are you most

concerned about as this technology

technology picks up speed.

>> The first is the pace of change in AI.

>> And I think it's really important to

just level set on the type of acid

reflux that even people in AI are

feeling.

>> I've started in AI almost 20 years ago

and the pace of change is is even faster

than I would expect and that people in

the field are expecting. Education

heavily concerns me. The fact that

companies have not yet leaned in and

skilled up their employees, that's a

really big one. The fact that parents

have not leaned in to have these open

conversations with their children about

the risks about mental health risks,

about over reliance, about

misinformation, about cheating on

schoolwork. I want more real talk

happening in in homes, in schools, in

work, on the subway. I want that. I

think there are also very real concerns

about data privacy and data use. I think

there are very real concerns about the

environment and how much energy or or

water usage um these models or full

systems are are using

>> and you and just if you don't if you're

not tracking with that it's because

>> they have to be powered by something

which means huge cloud and server farms

are powered by something

>> creating the ice that is in this

>> water doesn't live in the air it's

actually on a computer server somewhere

so

>> we call it the cloud but really that

means the data center in the middle.

Yes exactly.

>> And so these these these concerns are

very very real. Um there are some stats

that have been shared by these companies

and I think one is by leaning into these

systems and by being a user you get to

have a voice in these conversations and

you get to be a you know a a voice and

say I've used it and here's what I've

seen and here's what I think is stupid

and here's what I think is great.

>> That's true. you get to be a a loud

active contributor. And again, a concern

is that there are going to be some

people listening to this podcast around

the world who are going, I'm hesitant to

use this and their voices are going to

be lost in the conversation. I'm so glad

you're saying that because I will

personally say that I do fall into the

camp of believing that this is the

single biggest innovation, tech, human

revolution that we will experience in

our lifetime that we can't even

comprehend how it's going to change life

for the better and in some ways for the

worst in the next 10 years, but more for

the better. And I appreciate you

connecting the dots and saying this is

here. It's accelerating. And if you

don't understand how to use it in your

day-to-day life, you don't have a voice

in demanding more regulation or

demanding that things get labeled as AI

generated or you know if we are creating

tools that create can create things then

we should be creating tools that can

also police things.

>> And so I really see the connection

there. And if you're worried about it,

don't sit back. If you're worried about

it, this is when you lean in.

>> I am also in the camp that some of these

concerns are made a little bit more

dramatic than they actually are and that

demanding more transparency and

documentation from these providers has

been very fruitful in in uh shedding

more light on that. Video streaming for

an hour versus AI chat for an hour. You

want to guess the energy consumption,

the comparison? zero idea. I have I

didn't I don't I'll be honest with you.

I don't even think about this.

>> Yeah.

>> Because I'm thinking it's coming from my

job,

>> right?

>> You know, I'm not even thinking about

the larger implications of this.

>> There are two things that are true at

the same time. It is absolutely a

concern. We should be voicing our

concern for it. We should be asking for

more transparency and documentation from

these players, from these builders. And

it is not as dramatic as people make it

out to be. We can compare it to video

streaming. video streaming uses over 4x

the energy of AI chat for the exact same

amount of time. So,

you know, using Netflix less and and

chatting with AI, that might actually be

a trade-off. That's good.

>> What do you want to say to somebody,

Ally, about the fear that AI is coming

for my job?

>> I think we will have job loss because of

AI. We need to be very, very honest

about that. Um, and I don't know at what

scale and I don't know on what timeline,

but I feel strongly that I should say

that out loud to be a responsible

citizen. The second is that every single

job that we already have out there,

marketing manager, legal, finance will

be AI supported and you'll have a switch

in the types of things that you are

doing. And so maybe if you are a

marketing manager, let's say, and right

now you are writing a lot of copy, you

are constantly going back and forth and

checking on stats,

>> you might have an AI that is literally

just constantly checking your metrics

for you and flagging when things are out

of sorts and offering 20 potential

solutions that you could pick one of or

you could say, I know my business better

than you. I'm going to pick the 21st. So

the job of each person is going to shift

right even even in legal I know people

who are using it to do contract

comparisons or or clause like risk

analysis. Hey and this by the way as a

solarreneur I do this too.

>> Well maybe instead of saying AI is

coming for my job the reframe is AI is a

part of my job.

>> AI will be a part of everyone's job AI

is coming for some jobs and there will

be new jobs because of AI. Can you

unpack why women are slower to adopt AI

than men?

>> I think a lot of people in AI are men

and so when you're looking at people

talking about it, uh it's going to be

largely men and so there's going to be a

little bit more of like ah that future

is not for me. That's the, you know,

tech bros or whatever. So one is just

that they don't see people like them. Uh

that is one reason why I spend every

waking minute trying to share more

information and make this world more

accessible and why I've educated

millions on this space. So one is is

this future for me? That also means that

the use cases that are shared might also

not be as relevant like women more often

are taking on care for others, care for

their children, care for, you know,

aging parents, uh teachers and so those

stories are just told less. And so we

get into this toxic flywheel of those

stories not being told. We also maybe

have like but again it's it's anecdotal

but when I speak at conferences I am

more often asked about data privacy and

environmental concerns from women and

again I want to give a path forward to

those folks that feel that hesitancy and

there is a very fast way of of finding

action there. I'm going to give this as

a tip. Okay. I want everyone who feels

this way about AI that you're worried

about data privacy or you're worried

about maybe environmental usage. You can

download an open-source small model and

you can run it on your computer. It will

never go into the cloud. It will only

live on your laptop. The only

electricity that is used is downloading

it and the energy that your laptop

needs. It's a smaller model, so it's

also going to have a smaller footprint.

I am able to use AI in the skies with no

internet access because of this local

deployment. So that is a path. If you

are still hesitant, please try out small

local models. You can do it in less than

5 minutes.

>> You know Ally, one thing that I saw a

couple months ago was kind of the first,

it wasn't really a study, you probably

know more about this. It was done here

in Boston at MIT and it was the first

look at cognitive decline

>> of people using AI and the results were

alarming like there was a significant

decline in people's like brain power

that's not the scientific term which

basically in my layman terms I read that

and was like oh my god people are

getting stupider using this their brains

are rotting and it wasn't a clinical

study

But it was looking at people overly

relying on AI and the impact it has with

your thinking skills and your brain

power. Is there such a thing at this

point that we know of or relying too

much on AI? Over reliance is a risk of

many tech systems including AI. And that

study I think thankfully illuminated a

key point which is yeah if you use these

systems lazily you're going to get lazy.

So in the same way that we uh still

teach our children math even though they

have calculators. We still need to teach

our children taste, curation, critical

thinking, creativity, writing, you know,

uh the ability to to cast judgment on

whether a a fact is right or wrong. We

still need to teach children that that

study was about people using AI to write

essays. And the outcome was that people

couldn't remember what they wrote in an

essay. Of course, you couldn't remember.

You didn't write it. You didn't write

it. Exactly. And if the goal is to be

able to remember what you write, then

yeah, you should still do the writing.

You can still use AI to interview you to

get more information out. You can use AI

to review it from the viewpoint of

Abraham Lincoln or Mark Zuckerberg or

whatever. You can have AI review it

>> and make it better.

>> Got it.

>> So using there there is a a spectrum of

right and wrong ways to use AI. There is

a

role that humans play in our world which

is bringing heart and empathy into

situations.

There are things that I also think are

gray area that some people have said,

"Hey, I'm going to do this." I've heard

of people using AI to write obituaries

or or statements at a funeral.

>> If you go to a wedding, a lot of the

speeches sound the same.

>> Absolutely. Right. Let's delve into

their relationship of the landscape of

the tapestry of love. right? That could

be a gray area. I think honestly one of

the biggest takeaways that I've had over

the last seven years in you know the

geni space

is that urgency is creating toxicity. M

>> if you are under the gun, you have to,

you know, write this report, you have to

write this essay, it's 5 minutes before

the wedding, you forgot to write the

speech,

>> that is when you're going to lazily

offload and abuse these systems and not

get the great writing out of it and not

speak from the heart um and not build a

better relationship with your friend

that's getting married. So I think the

more that you can do to eliminate

urgency, which as a procrastinator is

absolute hell, is going to help you use

these systems

in the way you want to use them. Again,

there are going to be some people in

that gray area that still say, "Hey,

that's fine." And and that's everyone's

prerogative is to have that voice in

this conversation, but urgency and

removing it is going to help you make

better work, use AI more responsibly.

You know, when you think about AI long

term, what excites you the most?

Seriously, what what like how do you

like first I want you to talk about what

excites you the most and then I'd love

you to talk to me and to the person

that's listening and watching about what

might be coming in the coming months.

Two things that excite me and they're

very closely related. Number one is the

accessibility of these tools is only

increasing. So two years ago you had to

be this like perfect prompter. Now you

can like kind of type a couple sentences

and it gives you a really strong strong

output.

>> You can also speak to it. You're saying

you can also speak to it.

>> You can also film and upload photos to

it.

>> Yes. There are so many ways to interact

with these systems. Okay,

>> so the accessibility and to me the

inevitable downstream impact of more

accessible systems is that people that

are that are burning inside with this

amazing idea that they've never been

able to accomplish or this problem that

they wish they could have solved 7 years

ago or this kid that they want to, you

know, bond with more or parent that they

want to help more. There is everyone has

this like burning thing inside. It might

take a little bit to figure out what

that is, but the ability to accomplish

that thing that those obstacles are

dropping

>> very quickly. We are going to have

billiondoll companies with a couple

people and we might see billion-dollar

companies with one person. the ability

for someone to scale their authenticity

and their impact and the types of change

and helping each other that they want to

have is going to explode even more than

we've already seen.

>> Okay. So, I want people who feel left

out to lean in even more because again

that ability to go from idea to

execution on anything

is going to compress.

That is what excites me. The things that

we should expect to come. Uh and again

uh I can declare my predictions. They

might change all the time. Uh experts

are always sharing their predictions and

we are constantly changing it. So again,

listen to a variety of voices. Anyone

that declares like for sure that

something is happening in the next 40

years, whatever, they're guessing.

Everyone's guessing. Okay. Number one,

it feels like it is very very likely

that we will have a much more multimodal

world.

>> What does that mean?

>> Like modality could be text or vision

like visual things or audio. So, the

ability to not just type in and say,

"Make me an image of Mel Robbins posing

as Wonder Woman on the top of a hill,"

>> but the ability to go in and out of

these different uh inputs, not just text

to image, but like image to sound, sound

to movie, movie to blog post. I

legitimately think that we will be able

to talk to our pets in the next 10

years.

>> What? Because these systems again, the

ability to translate is an emerging

capability that's coming out these

really, really big models.

>> So like I could put a phone at my dog's

face and be like filming him and go,

"What is YOLO thinking?

>> It's trying to tell me.

>> It's a guess, but I it's feels more

likely than not." And there's research

happening, by the way, already in

dolphins.

>> Yeah. So like when my when homie puts

his paw on me, I'm like, "Okay, you're

irrit." Yeah. Like love it.

>> Home slice, homie.

>> Yeah. It's again multi-modal.

You could you could view it as Yeah.

It's easier to put in information and

easier to get out information. But that

also means that if you want to learn

quantum computing and you really like

podcasts or you really like video,

>> maybe instead of reading a 700page book

that is really scientific and dense, you

could say, "Hey, can you make me a

25page PowerPoint?"

>> Well, I'll tell you what I'm excited

about. I'm really excited about the fact

that

so many

people and I know that I have absolutely

felt this way in my life feel alone and

you feel like it's all on you and the

way that you've explained what is

already available right now that is

there for free to act as a extension or

a team member

or a thing that you can delegate a task

to that then expands your time, expands

your capacity, awakens you to options,

helps you create a plan, saves you time.

You're not actually alone anymore.

>> Can Can I also just

>> Yeah.

>> 100% yes. There are going to be people

who just heard you get it

>> and they're going to go, "Well, now

there's too many options."

>> Mhm. And how on earth am I supposed to

change my whole life when all I see is a

blank page,

>> right?

>> So, I just want to also

uh tell the person listening,

it's okay if you don't have that moment

of reinvention for the first couple

weeks you're using it. Like, give

yourself the space to fail, to be weird

with it, um to ask new questions, to try

and break it. And it's okay to delay

that light bulb moment. Um, don't punish

yourself if you if you don't have that

early on. That's so normal. And I don't

want that person to to feel like they

are behind in any way because in fact,

they're quite ahead if they're willing

to do this.

>> Well, the fact that you've just spent

all this time listening to or watching

this means you're

>> Oh my god. Very much so. Yes. On that

note, if I were to take one action, I

mean, you've told us so many exciting

things, specific things to do, things

you're concerned about, but if I were to

just take one action, what's the most

important action you should take after

everything that you've taught us today?

If you have not been using AI, use it.

Not because I'm telling you you have to

use it every single day or else you know

the world will explode but I'm saying I

want your voice in the conversation and

by you experimenting and seeing the

strengths and weaknesses of these

systems you will be a stronger voice in

the conversation and you will be

included. You will get to say I want

these systems to serve me and right now

we are missing some voices. So for those

who are hesitant use it. For those who

have been using it, it is not Google.

And you have to get out of that mindset.

You have to treat it like this alien.

You have to try and do some real-time

interaction. You have to try and

delegate a 20-minute task to it. You

have to, you know, try a a live voice

conversation. You have to get the

superpowers out of it. And that means

gaining more clarity, using it for more

forethought, using it to 10x. You know,

maybe even when you're naming this

podcast, ask AI to come up with 250

options, you're still going to be the

human that curates and picks and moves

things around and maybe rewrites it all,

but you need to lean into the

superpowers of AI, not just better

browsing.

One thing I'd love to have you end on is

you have said repeatedly,

you're excited because you can use AI to

help you become the person you've always

wanted to be.

Can you speak directly to the person

listening and tell them what that means?

>> I'm going to give you an example from my

own life. I moved to New York 3 years

ago. I had just come off of a three-year

road trip. I lost everything that I

owned when my apartment flooded with

sewage. So, I'm moving to a new city

that I've never lived in into an

apartment with zero furniture, zero

spoons, zero lamps. I am sitting on the

floor. My butt hurts because the floor

is so hard. And I burst into tears while

eating like Annie Anne's pretzels. And

I'm talking to my therapist the next day

and I'm saying, "I can't do this. I'm

depressed. I even getting out of bed.

I'm I'm literally eating dinner by

myself, sitting on the side of my

bathtub, cuz that's the only thing

that's elevated.

She goes, "Wait a second, Ally. Did you

just say that you have an empty

apartment?" I was like, "Yeah." She

goes, "So you have a dance floor in New

York? How many people have a dance floor

in New York?" I was like, "Say that

again." And she completely flipped how I

thought about this problem. And suddenly

I literally hosted a dance party in my

apartment. I had friends come over. We

had a YouTube video. We did Zumba stuff.

Acting like an idiot right in a dark

empty apartment. I also organized a New

Year's planning session where we covered

the entire floor with post-its cuz I

could. That gave me an idea to go to

these systems and to say here is a

transformation that I've had in my life

because of this woman. because of one

sentence that she asked me. I need to do

this on repeat. I need every single time

I come to you with a problem, you're

going to give me the reframe. You're

going to give me another reframe. You're

going to give me a motivational sentence

that tells me I can absolutely

accomplish this. You're going to give me

action items so that I can get it done.

And so I built a again, zero code, took

two minutes. I built a repeatable way to

go to these systems with a problem and

to see it through a new light.

It completely rewired my brain. I used

to go to this thing multiple times a

day. I haven't had to go to it in the

last couple months because that's just

how my brain processes bad things now.

So, if I am very stressed about meeting

with an executive or whatever, I go to

the system maybe and I say, "I'm really

stressed about this meeting." And they

go, "You're probably stressed because

you know that it's important. You have a

successful career because you've been

given this important

meeting. Good for you for being

successful. Own that success and know

that with success comes stressful

moments. And you got to where you are

because you dealt with less stressful

moments, but that bar is going to keep

increasing. Good for you for already

surviving everything you've gotten. That

is the type of transformation that I am

working with these systems on. And again

has completely rewired my brain. I now

look at stressful situations as anxiety

as an opportunity for reinvention.

>> Amazing. I just want to thank you. I

want to thank you for making the time to

learn about this exciting tool. I mean,

I realize there is so much I have to

learn. So, I'm so proud of you for

listening to this and I'm proud of you

for watching this on YouTube. And thank

you for sharing this with people in your

life. We all need to lean in and learn

how to use this tool. that's right there

that could make our lives better. And

one more thing, in case no one else

tells you today, I wanted to be sure to

tell you as your friend that I love you

and I believe in you and I believe in

your ability to create a better life.

And I'll tell you something. After the

conversation today, I am 1,000%

convinced that you can use AI as a tool

to create a better life. And I hope you

feel empowered to start doing so. All

righty. I will see you in the very next

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