How to win at work (even if you're the youngest)
By Matt Huang
Summary
Topics Covered
- Newbies Excel with Attitude and Rigor
- Push Proactively Beats Pull Management
- Ownership Means Caring Deeply
- Play New Guy Card to Learn Fast
- Feeling Useful Trumps Comfort
Full Transcript
in the first six months of being at a company, the massive advantage you have over everyone else is the fact that you can literally say, "Oh, sorry. I'm just
I'm new to the company. Can you explain this thing to me? I don't understand it.
I'm new." Attitude should be the constant. You would be surprised how
constant. You would be surprised how many people have bad attitude at work.
Value at work is a function of three or four things. As someone who has worked
four things. As someone who has worked in three different industries, investment banking, management consulting, and in big tech at Google, uh, and now running my own company, I
feel uniquely qualified to talk about this topic, which is how to bring value to your job, even if you're considered young and inexperienced.
And so I want to first start by saying that everyone who starts a new job.
Whether you're 22 or whether you're 52 is going to experience a period of newness where during that time you're just new to the job. You're picking up on a new company's culture. You're
picking up on their rules and expectations. You're picking up on how
expectations. You're picking up on how they do things. And you're also meeting all of your co-workers and the people at the company. And so you don't have a lot
the company. And so you don't have a lot of pre-existing relationships. Now this
period of newness though can last anywhere from I would say a few months up to even a year and that is going to depend on a variety of factors like whether you have experience working in
that industry already or whether you are going from a large to a big company or completely switching industries altogether. For those who are new to the
altogether. For those who are new to the channel, my name is Matt and I've spent the last 5 years working in industries across investment banking, consulting and in big tech. And today I run my own business and I make these videos because
I enjoy it, but also because I would have wished that somebody would have made these for me when I was younger.
But let's get back to the video. So
value, we first have to define value because when we ask ourselves the question of how do you bring value to work when you're young and inexperienced? I want to be very clear.
inexperienced? I want to be very clear.
Value at work is a function of three or four things. The first is subject matter
four things. The first is subject matter expertise. The second is executional
expertise. The second is executional rigor. The third is your attitude and
rigor. The third is your attitude and the fourth is the relationships that you have with other people at your company.
Let me break down each. So with the first which is subject matter expertise.
This is pretty self-explanatory. If you
are someone who has worked in the healthcare industry for 20 years, then you are going to very likely have a deep knowledge of the space. You're going to
understand who the key players are.
You're going to understand what the main problems that the industry faces are.
You're going to know a lot and also have a lot of existing relationships with people in the industry because of the sheer amount of time that you spent in that space. Second is is executional
that space. Second is is executional rigor. So executional rigor I define
rigor. So executional rigor I define broadly as whether you are good at executing on a process in a very methodical and rigorous way. whether you
make mistakes that your boss then has to go back and correct or that you catch later and how good you are at getting to an end objective or finishing a task in
the way that your boss or your manager asked you to. Third is your attitude.
Your attitude is what kind of energy you bring to the table and what your mindset is when it comes to completing tasks and more importantly overcoming challenges
or problems that you're inevitably going to run into in any work situation. And
the fourth one, relationships. This I
think of as whether you understand how the company works, what the org structure looks like, and if you have the relationships and the goodwill built up with other folks at the company to do
good work with them. So for example, if you work as a product manager at a tech company, do you have good relationships with the engineers who are building your product? Do you have good relationships
product? Do you have good relationships with marketing who and sales who are going to go out and actually put your product in the hands of users? Do you
have good relationships with other product managers, maybe more senior than you? If you have great relationships
you? If you have great relationships with all of those parties, then you're more likely than not going to be able to get a lot more done and therefore bring a lot more value to the table than someone who didn't have those relationships. Taking a step back
relationships. Taking a step back though, so we've got these four key things that contribute to value at work.
But when we think about the context of being new and inexperienced, say you're in your early 20s and you are completely new to this industry, you just got this
job at this dream company of yours.
You're very likely not going to bring all four of these to the to the table.
Most likely, you're only going to bring two of these. Now, which two? I'll let
you guess. Those two are going to be executional rigor and attitude because you're very likely not going to bring subject matter expertise. You just
haven't spent decades in the industry and you're not going to have pre-existing relationships with people at the company because quite frankly you haven't worked there before. And so it's
very unlikely like maybe there's one small edge case where you happen to have outside of work relationships with a lot of people on the team that you're working with which could contribute to
you coming in with some pre-existing relationships on day one. But 99% of people are not going to have those relationships built and that's totally okay. Where we're going to focus though
okay. Where we're going to focus though is the attitude and the executional rigor. But I want to walk you through
rigor. But I want to walk you through three examples now of these four qualities in action over the course of my career across the three roles that I had before I started my own business.
Starting with my first year as an investment banking analyst in Wall Street. At the time I was fresh out of
Street. At the time I was fresh out of college, just graduated just graduated from Georgetown. thought that I knew
from Georgetown. thought that I knew everything about finance, but very quickly realized that I did not have nearly as much subject matter expertise
about what it took to buy and sell a business than I thought I did. And so it was a very humbling experience. And I
realized very quickly that there was a lot I had to learn. So subject matter expertise, one out of 10. execution. I
also thought I was pretty good at this, but very quickly got humbled because I realized that the level of rigor that is expected in banking is extremely high.
There's a reason why a lot of people at top universities and Ivy Leagues go into investment banking as their first job out of college because it serves as an excellent training ground because the standards are so high. even small things
like whether or not your footnotes have a period at the end of them or whether everything is standardized, the fonts are properly uh sized and you're using the right numbers is heavily emphasized.
So very quickly on I realized that my executional rigor was actually not very good and I also didn't understand what it took to successfully run a process
when I was coordinating a deal which involved many different parties. My
attitude though on the other hand was a 9 out of 10 because I was willing to do whatever it took to learn and I had a very coachable mentality. I think this is one of the most important things and
the easiest thing that you as a young person can do to bring value on day one.
Now with relationships, I'm going to give this a 7 out of 10 because even though I was new, I made a conscious effort when I joined to meet a lot of the other bankers at the firm and also
of course my own analyst class. There
was about 20 or 30 of us and we all got really close because we were working late into the office every night. Fast
forward a few years and I when I moved over to the Boston Consulting Group as a consultant now my subject matter expertise I would say was still pretty low. I would say it's probably like a
low. I would say it's probably like a two or three out of 10 at this point because generally I understand business better now having spent a year or two in banking. But I'm still nowhere near what
banking. But I'm still nowhere near what I would consider a subject matter expert in any of the industries that we were consulting in. Execution though has
consulting in. Execution though has improved significantly because now I've gone from a 2 out of 10 to an 8 out of 10 because banking trained me to really
understand how to uh run a process and also what good looks like in Excel when you're modeling or building PowerPoint slides. Attitude still nine out of 10
slides. Attitude still nine out of 10 because I was ready to get things done and I really wanted to learn and I was super hungry. And relationships I would
super hungry. And relationships I would say is you know around a six out of 10 because I was kind of starting over again at a new company where I didn't have as good of of a relationship with
the other consultants but I did make an effort to build those relationships as soon as I could. Now one distinction guys before I move on is that there's a big difference between a junior
consultant and a senior consultant. And
a common misconception about consultants is that some 23-year-old consultant is going and giving advice to the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. That's simply not
the case. The person that's actually
the case. The person that's actually whispering in the CEO's ear is the partner. And so the partner oftentimes
partner. And so the partner oftentimes these people have years of experience either having worked in the industry itself for over a decade. So say they were in the technology industry for a
while working at a tech company before they became a partner or they've been a career consultant who has just done 50 projects in the tech space and so
they've seen a lot and they are as close as it gets to being an industry insider.
And so from that perspective, the partner is a 10 out of 10 from subject matter expertise. So what the associate
matter expertise. So what the associate lacks in subject matter expertise is actually delivered by the partner. Now
the associate's job though, the junior consultant's job is to bring the executional rigor and the good attitude.
Now relationships here, I would say if we're talking internal relationships, the partner also probably has better relationships just because they've been working at the firm for that much longer. But now let's fast forward to
longer. But now let's fast forward to when I moved from the Boston Consulting Group over to Google. here. I was around 25 at the time and what I will say is that at Google I quickly realized that I
understood at a high level the industry that we operated in which was tech. But
there were still a lot of things that I didn't understand specifically around the nuances of ads and the different B2B products that Google sells to other businesses. So I'm going to rate this a
businesses. So I'm going to rate this a 6 out of 10. Now my execution was solid 8 out of 10. Attitude was still 9 out of 10. But the thing that I struggled with
10. But the thing that I struggled with the most at Google was the relationships in the very beginning. Because what you will find, especially if you work at a
large company in a bisops or strategy role, is it is very difficult to get anything done if you do not have great relationships with the right people at
the company. It is just impossible to
the company. It is just impossible to get the information that you often times need without being able to go to someone in finance or without being able to go to someone in product and say, "Hey, can you give me this number that I need or
can you explain to me how you guys are currently running this process in sales?" If you don't have those
sales?" If you don't have those relationships, it's very hard to be effective, even if you're a beast at execution and you have a great attitude and even if you have subject matter expertise. Now that we've gone over
expertise. Now that we've gone over these examples, I know some of you are thinking, Matt, all right, you've you've shown me that there's these four things that I need to care about, but how the heck do I even improve on any of these?
Well, I want to explain to you how. So,
with subject matter expertise, let's be real here. It is going to take time.
real here. It is going to take time.
This is the one thing that is going to take time. You can move a little bit
take time. You can move a little bit faster by studying up on the industry that you're in and asking lots of questions, but it's important to give yourself grace here. On day one, you're
not going to be a subject matter expert, and that's okay. Nobody expects you to be. However, when it comes to the other
be. However, when it comes to the other three, execution, attitude, and relationships, there are a number of things that you can do, and I'm going to go through them now. The first thing which is with attitude is that you
should understand as a young person who's new and and experienced. Attitude
should be the constant. Having a good attitude and a good energy should be like table stakes for you. And you would
be surprised how many people have a bad attitude at work. And so just by bringing a can do attitude and a coachable energy, you are already going
to stand out. Some of the best advice that I ever got from a manager in consulting was you should be the one that brings the energy to the room. Now,
what does that mean? It means that you're the one who always wants to move things forward and you are being proactive, pushing things forward, always following up with people, asking
questions about, okay, what do we need to do to actually get this done? Rather
than just waiting passively and expecting other people to tell you what to do. Keep in mind that even if you're
to do. Keep in mind that even if you're the most junior person in the room, you can still suggest things. You don't have to wait for your senior partner or associate or director to tell you what
to do. And this is brings me to the
to do. And this is brings me to the second really important point, which is this concept of push versus pull. So a
lot of highle executives are very used to pulling things from their team.
They're asking this person for this number. They're saying, "Hey, can you do
number. They're saying, "Hey, can you do this for me? Can you send this email for me? can me can you draft up this deck
me? can me can you draft up this deck for me? So they're pulling things from
for me? So they're pulling things from their team and over time that's actually pretty exhausting to do. Now on the other hand, when you push, what that means is you as the employee, you're
actually being proactive. You are going to your manager and you're saying, "Hey, I remember that we have to do this next week. By the way, I proactively put this
week. By the way, I proactively put this together. Can you please look at it for
together. Can you please look at it for me in the next couple days?"
Even something as small as that where you're pushing instead of your manager having to pull makes a massive difference and they're going to notice.
This ties to the next thing which is ownership. Always try to have as much
ownership. Always try to have as much ownership as possible. Really have an owner's mentality. And this is something
owner's mentality. And this is something that took me a while to develop. And it
took me a while to learn what that actually meant. But fundamentally at the
actually meant. But fundamentally at the most basic level, having ownership simply means that you just are that person that gives a about what you're working on and actually wants to
get stuff done. It's so simple. It's so
incredibly simple. I can't believe I'm making this 20-minute video talking about ownership. But if there's anything
about ownership. But if there's anything that you can do to really stand out when you're young and inexperienced is to still take ownership of your workstream even if you make mistakes. That leads me
to the last point though, which is how do you improve your knowledge? How do
you improve your execution if you already have a good attitude? Which is
ask lots of questions. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Don't be afraid to look dumb. play the I'm the new guy card
look dumb. play the I'm the new guy card for as long as you possibly can because in the first six months of being at a company, the massive advantage you have
over everyone else is the fact that you can literally say, "Oh, sorry. I'm just
I'm new to the company. Like, can I get 15 minutes of your time? Like, do you want to grab coffee? Can you explain this thing to me? I don't understand it.
I'm new." After 6 months, it's harder and harder to do that because then the expectations start to build up. And so
something I tell everyone is when you first start at a new role at a new company, play the new guy card. Lean
into it. Milk it for what it's worth. So
those are the things that I would say if you focus on those and you really just again bring the energy, have a good attitude, be proactive, and take ownership of your work, demonstrate a
genuine curiosity in what it is that you're working on. People will notice.
Now, I want to close with a story about a journalist who went and interviewed a number of military veterans and talked to them about what the experience was
like after coming home. And many of the people that this journalist interviewed said something very surprising. They
told him they wanted to go back to the battlefield. Now, why the heck would
battlefield. Now, why the heck would they say that? That sounds crazy. Why
would you want to go back to the place that you should be lucky to have escaped alive? Now, the reality is people want
alive? Now, the reality is people want to feel useful and we would rather like to feel like we've done a good job and that we've put our best effort forward than to feel like we're not being useful at all. And so, why do I bring this up?
at all. And so, why do I bring this up?
Why do I say this? You know, I can't promise you that when you're starting out and you're new and you're inexperienced at your job, that it's going to be easy. My experience in my early career quite honestly was very
difficult and I was challenged many times. I was pushed to the limit and at
times. I was pushed to the limit and at many points I also wanted to just give up. But what I will tell you is that if
up. But what I will tell you is that if you stick to it and if you focus on that and you never lose that energy and that attitude, people will notice. They might
not notice today, but they will notice in the future. And if anything, you will slowly become the kind of person that people can't help but notice.
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