If I Had to Restart SEO at 22, I’d Do This

Hi Edward, I'm Wasi Fali, 22 years old, studying in university, but also working a 9-to-6 job at an SEO agency. I've been

doing SEO on my own for about 6 months before this. But now, I joined a digital

before this. But now, I joined a digital marketing agency to clear my concepts, and honestly, it's helping, but I'm still confused because they are practicing old but workable methods, and

very few of them know what advanced SEO is. Now, here's the real problem. Before

is. Now, here's the real problem. Before

I read the rest of this, I got this question yesterday from Mr. Wasif Ali. I

got it over email. I sent him a response back and then I also said, you know, a lot of other people probably feel this way trying to learn SEO, confused about things. So, I think this would be a good

things. So, I think this would be a good topic for an episode. So, that's what I got for you. I'm going to read the rest of this and I'm going to give my answers having had many of the best SEOs in the

world on this show and having made this show for 1,20 days in a row. I'm going

to share my experience, my experience also with SEO and my answers. All right,

so now here's the real problem. I watch

your videos and sometimes one of you says one thing is right and the other says something different. I get it, SEO changes, but for a beginner like me, it feels like there's no single path. I end

up searching YouTube every time I get stuck at work. That works in the moment, but it doesn't feel like real learning.

I don't plan to stay at this agency more than 8 to 9 months. It's good for exposure to different niches, different projects, but I want to stabilize my life. I don't want to be a confused

life. I don't want to be a confused 22-year-old forever jumping from one video to another. My goal is serious. I

want to become highlevel in this field, not just an SEO guy. I want the kind of knowledge you have. Strategic, deep, the kind where you're not guessing. So,

here's my real question. I'm asking you like a younger brother would. If you

were 22 years old again, working a 9 to6 agency job, tired, confused by too many YouTube videos, but serious about becoming top tier, what would your

six-month plan be? Not a dream plan, a real tired person after work plan. And

second, in this field, which career path would you choose for yourself if you had to start today? Something else like product SEO, growth or technical SEO?

Not if you had money. Just as a normal human who wants stability and high income eventually. I'm not asking for

income eventually. I'm not asking for motivation. I'm asking for a practical

motivation. I'm asking for a practical guide like a map. Because right now, I have too many videos and no structure.

Thank you. Really respect your work.

Signed, Wasif Ali22. tired but serious.

Thank you so much for this message, Wasif. So, first let's just jump into

Wasif. So, first let's just jump into this one line that your agency is practicing old but workable methods. And

actually, a lot of the most This is something that a lot of newer people in SEO think. They think that tactics are

SEO think. They think that tactics are are always changing. SEO is always changing. But a lot of the most

changing. But a lot of the most effective SEO, if you are not trying to skirt the rules, hasn't changed. That's

the truth. The best SEO is choosing the right keywords plus relevance plus authority plus reduced pogo sticking.

Plus, if it seems clearly spammy, avoid it. So, find keywords that are going to

it. So, find keywords that are going to actually bring conversions. That could

be customers, that could be users, that could be warm leads. Make your pages relevant to these keywords. Put the

keyword in the page title, the H1, the URL slug, the metad description if you choose to use a metad description, the beginning of the first sentence. The

metad descriptions are optional. Build

authority. Build authority in ways that pass real referral traffic. Don't try to get a backlink from a high DA site that isn't going to rank and get you clicks.

Instead, try to get back links, relevant backlinks that are actually passing you referral traffic and that and and where your backlink is on a page that is indexed and ranking. That's the type of

authority that you want. Also, when you rank more and you reduce pogo sticking, your pages generate their own authority.

Your site generates its own authority because you are ranking in your niche and you're having satisfied clicks. And

then if it seems clearly spammy, avoid it. The reason for that, that's an

it. The reason for that, that's an aspect of SEO that changes. Google is

constantly getting better at catching spam tactics. Now, it's always a cat and

spam tactics. Now, it's always a cat and mouse game. I don't like to play that

mouse game. I don't like to play that cat-and- mouse game. I don't want to have to look over my shoulder constantly. I don't personally want to

constantly. I don't personally want to do churn and burn. Some people are cool with turn and burn. I think the value comes with compounding. So I try to build up SEO properties that are going

to last forever. And so for me, if it seems clearly spammy, just avoid it. For

example, just the other day, Google put out a statement that they are penalizing back button hijacking. Now, this is one that's it's better better late than never. It is late. People would

never. It is late. People would

literally make it so if you click the back button, they you you stay on their site. But that's something that's

site. But that's something that's clearly spammy. And if you do that now,

clearly spammy. And if you do that now, you're you're going to get hit by Google. If you if you put out tons of AI

Google. If you if you put out tons of AI generated pages without checking them, I think that is clearly spammy. And lots

of companies that do that, they get a short spike up and then they get hit.

This is called mount AI. That's clearly

spammy. So actually, I don't think the most effective SEO has really changed.

People have become more efficient at it with better tools, but the most effective SEO hasn't changed. Also have

a strong page title where you have the keyword at the beginning of the page title, then the benefit or the searcher's goal after and then the brand name and these page titles get more clicks. But you could be doing that 15

clicks. But you could be doing that 15 years ago. All right, next part of this

years ago. All right, next part of this message. Sometimes one of you says one

message. Sometimes one of you says one thing is right and the other says something different. I get it. SEO

something different. I get it. SEO

changes. But for a beginner like me, it feels like there is no single path. So

it's not that people say different things because SEO keeps changing. It's

actually just because some people are just wrong and others they can't let go of their previously held beliefs. I

shared this quote from Weblinker, the moderator of the SEO subreddit. I shared

this on yesterday's episode. Weblinker

said, "Critical thinking and doing research is your friend. Finding a

truism and locking yourself up is the enemy." I try to do a good job vetting

enemy." I try to do a good job vetting guests for this show, but sometimes people come on who are wrong and they say things which I know not to be true.

I can either argue with them and make them look bad or I can stay silent and make an episode about it later without calling them out. And I usually choose to do that because it's nicer. It makes

my guests more comfortable. I get better guests because they know that if they say something that might be a little bit wrong, I'm not going to make an example out of them. Sometimes I will argue with someone if I feel like they are if they

are saying something spammy and they are trying to take advantage of of this audience and I don't want that to happen. So then I will that's happened

happen. So then I will that's happened before where a guest will come on they will say something and I'll give push back. What do you mean by this? I will

back. What do you mean by this? I will

try to dig deeper or maybe I'll try to dig deeper if it's something that's really interesting. But if someone says

really interesting. But if someone says something that I disagree with for example let's say someone I I'm I personally am a huge fan of targeting bottom offunnel keywords. keywords that

have real high intent. But if somebody comes on and they're like, "I love targeting top offunnel keywords, the how-to keywords. These are my bread and

how-to keywords. These are my bread and butter." Maybe I'll be like, "Oh, have

butter." Maybe I'll be like, "Oh, have you tried bottom of funnel?" Or I might just not say anything and and try to keep asking them questions to get as much knowledge from them as possible for the audience because I don't want to

make them look bad and maybe they know things that can be really useful. But my

opinions on the best type of SEO, those are on the solo episodes. And what I try to do with this show is I try it's if if you listen to the show all the time, which was it sounds like you do and

thank you. I try to arm you with

thank you. I try to arm you with understanding so you can make your own decisions. Again, the north star in SEO,

decisions. Again, the north star in SEO, it's just the best SEO is focused on choosing the right keywords plus relevance plus authority plus reduced pogo sticking plus if it seems clearly

spammy, then avoid it. When you

understand first principles in SEO, you know that if a guest some says something that isn't true, you can evaluate that from your own experience and from the first principles or that if it seems

like it's not true. Next part you said, I don't want to be a confused 22-year-old forever jumping from one video to another. All right. So, don't

worry. You will be 23 soon and you'll be less confused. But and the reality is

less confused. But and the reality is just with the more with more research you do, you learn more first principles like I was just saying and then you can judge things yourself. What you're going

through is completely natural with learning. Everybody learns. Everybody

learning. Everybody learns. Everybody

starts somewhere. But try to learn the first principles so you can be more efficient at deciding what is true, what is false, what is best, what is worse.

And you said, I want the kind of knowledge you have, strategic, deep, the kind where you're not guessing. One,

like any great practitioner, I am constantly learning. And two, I don't

constantly learning. And two, I don't guess a lot anymore. But that is because I spent so much time learning and and I constantly try to keep learning. Because

I spent so much time learning first principles, I don't have to guess as much anymore. Because I have so much

much anymore. Because I have so much experience, I don't have to guess any anymore. You want to optimize for the

anymore. You want to optimize for the right type of experience. So three,

understand first principles so you don't have to guess. And then four, the right type of experience is trying to sell something with SEO. That for me is the best type of experience that you can get. And I'm going to get into that in a

get. And I'm going to get into that in a moment. You said, I am asking you like a

moment. You said, I am asking you like a younger brother would. If you were 22 again, working a 926 agency job, tired, confused by too many YouTube videos, but

serious about becoming top tier, what would your six-month plan be? Not a

dream plan, a real tired person after work plan. So, this is what my plan

work plan. So, this is what my plan would be. If you were if you were my

would be. If you were if you were my younger brother and I was giving you advice, I would tell you vibe code something ASAP. I have an episode on

something ASAP. I have an episode on this. It's episode 9008 of this show.

this. It's episode 9008 of this show.

Vibe coding for SEO, building rankable apps, tools, and revenue in minutes.

Vibe code a SAS that you can sell with SEO. You don't have to do a vibe coded

SEO. You don't have to do a vibe coded SAS. You can do e-commerce. You can sell

SAS. You can do e-commerce. You can sell something on Shopify. A vibecoded SAS will be the easiest. You don't have inventory. You don't really have to

inventory. You don't really have to worry about overhead. It's just the easiest to do. You can spin up a SAS and then start selling it with SEO and do this on the side. When I was working at

I Prospect, which is one of the top performance marketing agencies, I was there doing SEO all day. I loved it. I

was constantly learning, constantly asking questions to get to first principles. I found that a lot of people

principles. I found that a lot of people around me didn't actually know. So then

I would be doing all the research just like you're doing. But after work, I would continue doing SEO for my own things, selling my own things with SEO.

And then on weekends, I also started the New York City SEO meetup group. And so I would host SEO events on the weekend, learn by people around me, but also just

I kept doing SEO. I would meet with web development friends and ask them questions because that would help me understand technical SEO. But I was trying to sell with SEO, trying to sell

my own services, my own SEO services with SEO, which is really hard to do.

It's really competitive. But I was doing this like you, working the 9 to6 agency job. I was getting into the office

job. I was getting into the office around 8. I'd wake up at 5:30. I'd go to

around 8. I'd wake up at 5:30. I'd go to the gym. I'd go for a walk along the

the gym. I'd go for a walk along the East River. I'd get into the office

East River. I'd get into the office around around 8:00 a.m. Work until 6 6:00 p.m. Come home, do a little bit

6:00 p.m. Come home, do a little bit more SEO. probably on my lunch breaks, I

more SEO. probably on my lunch breaks, I was writing SEO landing pages for my stuff. And you know what? I learned so

stuff. And you know what? I learned so fast. So my advice to you is to sell

fast. So my advice to you is to sell something. Learning to sell with SEO is

something. Learning to sell with SEO is very different from learning to just rank. With learning to sell, you care

rank. With learning to sell, you care more about important things like topical authority, keyword targeting, keyword research, conversion rate optimization,

tracking, doing marketing that gets real referral traffic, which gives you the best type of backlinks, you become effective a lot faster. So, if I was 22

again working the 9 to6 agency job, I would be selling with SEO on the side.

That's my advice to you there. And then

you said this is the last one. In this

field, which career path would you choose for yourself if you had to start today? Something else like product SEO,

today? Something else like product SEO, growth or technical SEO? Well, you have to learn all of them, but growth is the best because it forces you to learn them

all. When you are learning how to use

all. When you are learning how to use SEO for growth, you have to learn about Google's rules for spam so you don't do things that are too spammy. You have to

learn technical SEO because you want to make sure that all of your pages are being crawled and when you update a page, those updates are being seen. You

need to learn having a strong website and good pages where people are not pogo sticking because if people are pogo sticking, you're going to have a bad quality score for your site and you're just going to lose rankings and

eventually it's going to become a lot harder to rank because people keep pogo sticking. You have to learn how to write

sticking. You have to learn how to write copy. You have to become a good

copy. You have to become a good marketer. And then the best part about

marketer. And then the best part about learning how to grow with SEO is you can take that knowledge and apply it to other marketing channels. You can apply

it to social media marketing. You can

apply it to sending out newsletters. You

can apply it to sales. You can apply it to so many different things. I'm a much better marketer from first understanding SEO. I can't even tell you how much

SEO. I can't even tell you how much better of a marketer I am from when you understand Google's algorithm because a lot of other algorithms in many different ways model themselves off of

Google's algorithms. When you understand SEO, you understand so many more algorithms. You become just much nastier at marketing in general cuz you had to learn how to get referral traffic with

backlinks. You had to learn what people

backlinks. You had to learn what people would click on. You had to learn how to create good titles. You have to learn how to make copy where a searcher is going to come to your page and want to convert or move down into your funnel.

So I would focus on growth. You will

learn everything that way. Was fali. I

hope you're not so tired after this.

Keep learning. We all keep learning. The

best of us keep learning. The worst of us stop learning. That's the truth.

Thank you for this message. For anybody

else who wants my method of SEO or to save just years learning SEO, that's why I made my SEO course, Compact Keywords.

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right now. And even just a few days deep, uh, with the skills that Edward taught, we're already seeing measurable increases in impressions, positions, and

even clicks at this point, even just a few days in, which is very cool. And

specifically speaking about the course, you can tell that Edward is just so passionate about the work that he does and is passionate about sharing it with the people and letting everybody know

the the secrets, the hacks out there that that make SEO work for really any niche. And

niche. And um if you're thinking about this course, if you're going back and forth about it, let this video be your your guide to to

actually just go and and do it because I got so much out of it. It's it's helped my team incredibly and it's only going to go up from here. So, thanks Edward for contact keywords. I really do appreciate it.

Thank you to Bob Quist for that. This is

episode 1,020 of the Edward Show. 1,020

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