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IS THIS OUR FUTURE? | With Alex Krainer, Tom Luongo & EM Burlingame

By Rich Does Politics

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Topics Covered

  • Trump Outmaneuvers Europeans on Ukraine
  • British Weaponize Indians for Economic Reconquest
  • Immigration Floods Create Roman-Style Ant Jars
  • Panopticon Illusions Fail Thermodynamically
  • Matriarchs Own Civilization's High Table

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Alex, you want to come in on the Ukrainian peace plan? How's it going?

Like tying in with what Tom and Ian were saying.

>> Yeah, I think that's the I think that's the probably the biggest thing going on at the moment. And I think that Trump is running circles around all these

wararmongering Europeans and >> this anti-corruption, this anti-corruption probe is just kryptonite for them.

>> Yeah. Yeah. They are so [ __ ] >> What we know is probably nothing compared to what's going on.

>> Yes.

>> And what they know >> because you know like we were talking about the other day we were talking about how Trump went to see Starmer.

>> Mhm.

>> Well, what did they talk about? I think

Trump probably set him down and said, "Look, we have receipts. We can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way. It's up to you." and they're in

way. It's up to you." and they're in they're in complete and total disarray and they're now grasping at straw as they're coming up with these with these uh how do you call it

platitudes of like wait you you can't have a peace deal without Europe being involved and you can't have a peace deal without Ukraine being involved but they they

have literally like a pair of twos they don't even have that they have nothing >> they have they have 27 offsuit is what they have that's the low that's the lowest form using Uno cards in a poker game. [laughter]

game. [laughter] >> Yeah. Um well know it's interesting. Um

>> Yeah. Um well know it's interesting. Um

and the Russians have been it's funny since this this deal has come out there and you watch all the the this ridiculous commentary from everybody and I'm like and I probably posted up the

other day. like oh by the way the you

other day. like oh by the way the you know Pescov came out the other day and I don't normally like for the most part most part I don't put a lot of stock in things that Demetri Pascov says because he's he's you know Putin spocks and he

just says what he says and Putin's made it abundantly clear that he's like I don't know Pesco said that the other day I have no idea what he says he just says whatever he wants but every once in a while Pascoff does let you know the

truth like he's usually out there just like running interference for Putin but the other day he said these are trilateral talks between Russia Ukraine in the United States and nobody else

matters. And then that was backed up by

matters. And then that was backed up by none other than Sergey Lavro, the foreign minister, and then Medvidev and then Putin. And then Putin comes out and

then Putin. And then Putin comes out and said, "No, this is a great framework for peace. I you know, there's a lot there's

peace. I you know, there's a lot there's work to be done yet, but this this is this I'm like this is all just [ __ ] like it's all it's so obvious that they're sporting this.

>> This is how kings play the great game using sport." I also think very

using sport." I also think very seriously this is why Trump went to see Xiinping, right? Xiinping personally and

Xiinping, right? Xiinping personally and then left. It's why he went meet Putin

then left. It's why he went meet Putin personally in Alaska and then left. I

think Arc has already happened.

>> Yep.

>> America, Russia, China. And I think the first steps of that has been intel sharing on all of this Maxwell Epstein money laundering global operation.

>> Right.

>> This is this is why I don't believe this is for example. This is why I don't believe there's any um uh going back to the gold and silver and the comx getting shut down. I don't think this is any any

shut down. I don't think this is any any evidence of it being adversarial between the the United States and the Chinese.

And this is why I'm saying some of the commentators that in the gold and silver space that are that are attached nominally to myself and keeping like Vince and others that are in there, we had them mapped to the Chinese

previously. Nope. I think they may be

previously. Nope. I think they may be mapped to London because they're trying to sew the the trying to sew division between the United States and China over the precious metals market. I don't

believe >> in the intel and special operations world the days before the day before about 8 hours before the comx went off there was a whole lot of anti-China

anti-CCCP information tweets many of them >> right from some of these from big accounts all that happened right before the com stuff and then during and then for the you know another six seven eight

hours somebody invested in that somebody put money into getting that message out that anti-CCCP anti-China message out there in the intel and special operations communities and those who pay

attention to that specifically.

>> And somebody's been and somebody's also spent an awful lot of money on on amplifying problems within the US credit markets, US housing markets, US labor markets, and everything else. This

stuff's everywhere. I'm now down to, oh, he's the Twitter flavor of the month that MI6 is putting their money down, >> or this guy's the Twitter flavor of the month, and he's some he's some hedge fund manager, some small family office

guy that all of a sudden, you know, he manages like $75 million and he's got some unpronouncable [ __ ] name and he's now out there today as the and he's everywhere, you know, 20 comments, 20

comments, 35 retweets, 200 likes, 450,000 impressions. All of them written

450,000 impressions. All of them written like a movie script or, you know, a >> y old newspaper kind of, you know, edited script.

>> It's like, >> yeah, >> these guys have been and and they all have substacks that nobody's read for years and then all of a sudden they get amplified. I'm like, where did this guy

amplified. I'm like, where did this guy get this kind of money? I looked at Twitter advertising rates, dude, >> and I'm like, I ain't ain't no way I'm giving that kind of money. Like, I mean, the Twitter advertising rates are

insane. Like,

insane. Like, really, really high. In the last two and a half, well, it's actually because their algorithms are much better in terms of placement, but um in the last two and a half weeks, I've blocked more

people with large accounts that I'd never heard of before in any and all the time 10 years, 15 years or so that I've been on Twitter.

>> Yeah.

>> Wow.

>> Exactly what you're saying, Tom. People

come out of nowhere and this guy's a hedge fund manager or private equity or a lot of them are former, right? former

guys and it's like >> and I hate to be a racist but most of them are Indian >> well you trace it back that's another piece >> and that's and at the end of the day that's a red flag for that's a red flag

for the city of >> London India India is the world's largest Englishspeaking nation more people speak English in India than anywhere else in the world and they're

IT literate to a large part so and >> there's there's more British in India than there are in the rest of the world combined let's just call it that Look.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, the the Indian whole Indian greater India is a 300y year British project.

There was no such thing as greater India before. It was different principalities

before. It was different principalities and different Rajots and Kats and the entire greatest greater India concept and idea is a 300-y old British

project. I've been writing on this about

project. I've been writing on this about the the real threat we have in the world right now is why are all of the you know why are the boards of all the major

corporations investment firms invest uh insurance companies and and nonprofits etc why are they all putting Indians in there >> because somehow we don't have any good

quality American British or you know English or Scottish it's all Indians why well who has to in the west who has to sign off on the financials the financials that are used then to

provide value, you know, to justify valuations by analysts.

It's all they're all Indians. And oh, by the way, these are not just, you know, 15 years ago, this would have been unheard of because half of these are national security impacting companies.

>> No, I know. I I I I started identifying this about four years ago. I'm like I just looked around. I'm like,

how did this happen? Like all the mayors and all the all the CEOs and all the board members and all this, like all of I'm like, everywhere I turn, there's another Indian being pushed into >> or in the United States and immediately

I'm like, "Oh, that's a British thing."

>> Who owns a lot of the hotels and who owns a lot of the gas stations? If I was going to put foreign troops and house them and move them around for a war within the United States, I would make sure I had access to the gas station chains. I'd make sure that I had

chains. I'd make sure that I had barracks, hotels, and other things to place people in. And if I'm and if I'm going to run a an illegal drug network

across Canada, um 75% of the trans the trucking and transportation companies in Canada are now owned by Indians.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay.

>> And they're d and they're trying to double the population of of the same in Canada over the next five years.

>> Ireland's being totally replaced by Indians and Pakistanis >> completely. They're pumping 1500 of them

>> completely. They're pumping 1500 of them in there a day.

>> Well, what does Ireland have? Ireland's

got how many trillions of dollars in the banks?

>> Yeah. Because of the because because of their their capital rules and Yeah.

Everybody's got everybody's got their off their off.

>> So while we're all paying attention to, you know, this this and this or pay attention to the Islamic threat, Sarah Adams threaten us, etc. Meanwhile, take a look at how Black Rockck Street FE state street and Vanguard through their

control of virtually every board that matters of anything from nonprofits to etc. and the government. Look at how they are flooding everything with Indians in just the last 10 years. And

again, this includes national. If you

were worried about the United States or you were taking the United States into a civil war and the United Kingdom into a civil war, you'd make sure that you had these Indians in positions of every company that would manufacture the

munitions that would fight against you.

Every bit of the logistics capabilities that would be necessary to fight against you, all of these things. It's all of the and then oh and by the way and Tom I know you you you're into the genius act

and all this but letting crypto and all of that into 401ks and more importantly private equity with a lot of these private equity fund general managers and partners etc. We are being set up by the

British to while we're all focused on war our entire economic financial system is being totally and absolutely and completely taken over with this passive aggressive Indian thing.

>> Okay.

>> And they're everywhere.

>> Okay. Ian, let let me let me get a handle on this. Right.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> I saw during lockdown how there were all these Indian Pakistani >> national leaders all of a sudden Mar in Ireland in Scotland and allian Patel in

England and everything right and it's still going on and there's even more now right >> now I can get at a political level that they would act as proxies for MI6.

Now what you're you're saying I think what you're arguing is that it's the same in terms of head of head heads of the large tech companies in terms of the the trucking >> financial institutions

>> in Canada the financial institutions but the people on the ground like the truck the seek truck driver he's not getting paid by MI6 or something. So so

>> unless he is Oh yes he is not MI6. He's

getting paid by Stracy Vanguard or Black Rockck through cutouts who do the lending for his trucking company. It's

the same in the United States not just Canada. Yeah, it it the the way all this

Canada. Yeah, it it the the way all this the way a lot of this works is that it it actually and it's also the immigration and the way they >> immigration who's getting the loans and who's providing the loans for these people to get started in their

businesses. Who's making sure that they

businesses. Who's making sure that they get the contracts? See, the way in which you do these kinds of passive aggressive behind the scenes British kinds of wars is you don't take people head on. The

British have almost never done that.

>> That's right.

>> What do you do? You infiltrate with managers and they're capable managers.

But they'll look the other way and they'll sign off on books that aren't legitimate, >> right?

>> And so 80% of them, 99% of them can be unwitting.

>> They've got opportunity. They got

larger. So of course, let's take it, right? But who's doing it? Who's behind

right? But who's doing it? Who's behind

it? Why? It's because while we're focusing on all this, you know, physical conflict stuff and Russia, etc., our entire economies at every level in, you know, in nonprofits, you know, so

endowments institutions etc. for financial institutions and corporations and small and medium-sized businesses because who's getting the who's the only ones who are getting the loans for what would bring people into the middle class

businesses and properties? It's Indians.

And it's not just the United States, Canada, in the English speaking world.

It's all over the Commonwealth >> and Africa and elsewhere. Anywhere the

British has touched, this is happening.

So, what's happening is we are being reconquered by the British, reoccupied by the British in this way that we're not even looking at. And oh by the way, here's another thing. We don't have we as a peoples, we don't have historic

beefs with the Indians. So it's not like, you know, we do with the Muslims where we get riled up because we've got a400y old beef with the Muslims. >> But the Indians, we don't have any real beef with the Indians and they're, you

know, we're not worried about them. What

know maybe some of the Pakistanis etc. But you know, >> they're the Muslims. >> So greater Indians.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. Which they're Muslims, right? So,

while we're all focusing on all this other stuff that's very important, just everybody take a step back and look at who's in charge of all of our economic instruments of power in government as well as Tom talked about as well. We

have been reoccupied. Now, it's not finished yet. It's not complete and we

finished yet. It's not complete and we can do something about it. But the

entirety of the Commonwealth and and the former Commonwealth, the former empire is all dealing with this at the same time. Why? Because greater India has

time. Why? Because greater India has tens of millions of people it can send around the world to do this. and very

>> nowhere else does >> very English speakers English speakers literate population and very deep >> British roots

>> centuries old ties to the British so >> centuries would not be in India yes >> so the so the British are incredibly well embedded and British structures are incredibly well embedded within India because that's how they ruled India this

time >> it is their structure >> and then and then what you're what you're saying is understanding because they did this before in Kenya in Uganda in South Africa by importing Indian

workers who then took on >> middle management positions like in South Africa the the Indians had better >> had more rights in apartite South Africa than the black Africans

>> the wealthiest family in all of Africa is Indian it's the Ishtar family and that's how they started over a century ago almost two you know century and a half ago >> okay now I do want to bring in our good

friend Mr. Alex Trainer, right?

>> I'm right there. Well, I find this very fascinating because I was in a conversation last summer >> uh with a with a top level Croatian military commander. He was going on and

military commander. He was going on and on about the Indians >> in Croatia.

>> Yes.

>> Bloody hell are they doing? I mean,

listen, I just want to make it clear to everybody watching. The four of us have

everybody watching. The four of us have nothing against Indians per se as a people. We have nothing against anybody.

people. We have nothing against anybody.

Tom, behave yourself. Nothing.

[laughter] We have nothing against anybody. What

we're talking about is the use of population as a war as a weapon of imperialism >> and war. Yes.

>> And war.

>> Yeah. And you see what I I think that in Croatia today, not just Indians, but Indians at the Nepalese. At first, it was just Indians and then it was the Nepalese and Indians. They're now

they're now the largest um the largest minority in Croatia. And and then, you know, he was pointing out, do you see what they do? They they they practically

all all do food delivery and there's the Israeli Walt company and it seems to me that they're mapping out the country, you know, like you

order food from Walt, you get an Indian guy who delivers it, but they're they're mapping all the routes around every I don't know what for. I

can't I can't say that I understand what for, but they're not doing it.

>> It's not just it's not just the routes.

All the payments get paid through digital payments. And so you're also

digital payments. And so you're also mapping out who's who, who's got what banking account, who's connected to what etc. >> That gives you intelligence on start points if you're going to go after and target somebody.

>> Okay. I I see this in London.

>> And I have been saying to my wonderful Scottish wife for months now, months and months, these delivery drivers, these Uber drivers, FOBs. FOB is a pjorative term

>> by Indians and Pakistanis. It means

fresh off boat. And I say and she says to me, "How do you know? How do you know? How do you I can tell no settled

know? How do you I can tell no settled Indian or Pakistani would be would be doing gig work riding an Uber bike. No

settled Indian or Pakistani woman will be riding an ebike to deliver takeaway food to people. These are new arrivals and they come in legally on visas. And

then what they're doing as well as what you're suggesting em and what you're suggesting Alex in terms of collecting all this information is they're taking jobs away. The kind of

jobs that young British people would do >> starting entrylevel jobs.

>> Yeah. And yeah, entry- [clears throat] level jobs it it we see it here in the United States. The same thing.

United States. The same thing.

>> Yeah.

>> The entry- level jobs here in the United States are are gone. Especially in the you know if you're even remotely rural >> like forget it like in Idaho. So the honest truth is all

in Idaho. So the honest truth is all these things that we talk about guys and everything that we look at is very important but while we're all focusing on this we have been completely reoccupied by the British and we're going to have to deal with that.

>> No I've been screaming about it for a long time.

>> And what does that mean? I'm sorry but it means a whole lot of people are going to have to go back home. You think just going to allow them or Pakistan's going to allow them?

>> Well Trump posted today I think it was >> yes Friday the 28th and end to all immigration from the third world.

anybody who's here illegally or isn't of benefit to the countries >> and to get everybody and start getting everybody out.

>> United States has roughly 100 million illegals. Europe has about the same.

illegals. Europe has about the same.

United Kingdom has somewhere close between 20 and 40. We don't know the exact number.

>> We have no idea in Canada. We Ireland's

just being overwhelmed. 1500 a week. By

the way, just on island, I recorded a video with um Blaine Hull and Jana >> Janna London from the Natural Women's Council in >> She says hi Alex is um >> hi Janna

>> and and then we talk about the what's happened islands being destroyed and people should subscribe, comment, like and watch that one right and it's about using people as a weapon.

>> Yes.

>> As a weapon >> because you have to physically physically remove them.

And so here's the I wrote a piece today.

I wrote three piece two two poems and then a long long form essay article today about weaponized empathy and weaponized compassion.

So we are either going to have to become a dispassionate people in an unempathetic people for a while and remove these or we're done in our own lifetimes. we are completely done

lifetimes. we are completely done because the the problem is is we are all testosterone driven males and we think we're fighting testosterone driven logic. We're not. We're fighting

logic. We're not. We're fighting

estrogen logic. Estrogen logic doesn't take you on in a clean, you know, fist fight.

It doesn't.

>> Yeah.

>> It will do like it just did in Ukraine.

We'll try and get two guys to fight each other >> while it's doing something else.

>> Right. Right. Well, that's and this is why and and Ian, this is I I agree with you completely and this is why I keep looking at the other ways to attack it directly. You attack their ability to

directly. You attack their ability to continue this process by taking away their money.

>> Yeah, >> it's one that's happening. That's

happening. But what do you do with roughly 250 million people that have to go back? I'm not going to worry about

go back? I'm not going to worry about Europe. Europe's 100 million that

Europe. Europe's 100 million that they're dealing with. Let them deal with that.

>> I know. I know. I know.

>> Right. But I do care about the the Commonwealth. That's my people,

Commonwealth. That's my people, right? I really care about the United

right? I really care about the United States. My family's here. I've still got

States. My family's here. I've still got family in England. I've got family in continental Europe, direct family, right? So,

right? So, >> we we need to add into our dialogue and discussion because I don't have, you know, I certainly as hell don't have all the answers. And who the hell am I

the answers. And who the hell am I anyways? Right. Right.

anyways? Right. Right.

>> But what's happened is we have been nearly completely reoccupied and they can cut off the spot all they want.

There's still 250 240 250 million people that don't belong here.

That's a quarter of a billion people.

>> And do you think those countries are just going to take them back? We can't

even get countries to take back human trafficked people.

>> Yeah. Why would they want them back?

>> Right. And here's the other problem. How

do you remove how do you fight State Street, Vanguard, etc. who are using the law legally and their positions and control of boards to put all these people in positions of wealth? You know, anything that has anything to touch on wealth and

wealth creation now is already in their control. They're flooded into the

control. They're flooded into the governments now. Now they work together,

governments now. Now they work together, right? Regulators and companies, etc.

right? Regulators and companies, etc. What are you How are you going to do that? Are you going to undo corporate

that? Are you going to undo corporate board structures? Are you you can't use

board structures? Are you you can't use the Sherman Act because that doesn't apply here. They know the British know

apply here. They know the British know what they're doing because they built the freaking system >> over 400 years.

>> Mhm. So what I I'm telling you right now, people need to really start paying attention because I am hearing things out of people that is this is going to blood and it's going to go to horrible

horrible amounts if we just slaughter people.

>> And guess what? Then it's a matter of well who's who. Well, you can't tell. So

you just slaughter anybody you don't know.

>> And that's what the British do. They did

this on purpose because they know that's getting to be the only recourse that's available.

Yep.

>> Took him 40 years to flood these people in here. This didn't start on freaking

in here. This didn't start on freaking Biden. People are [ __ ] This

Biden. People are [ __ ] This happened under every president since re, you know, since um Carter. Since Carter, LBJ, maybe. Yes.

Carter. Since Carter, LBJ, maybe. Yes.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Right after they killed Kennedy. Right after they had Kennedy.

Kennedy. Right after they had Kennedy.

>> After they killed Kennedy.

>> So, it's this is a this is a this is this is a a very very big problem and it's going to have to Yeah. It's going

to be very very difficult and I don't know that it's not going to I I you and I talked about this and and and I've done my very best to put the not the

best spin on it possible but to explain to people like you have there are paths out of this. None of them involve it being bloodless like but unfortunately

it is what it is. Now we can choose to minimize that or we can choose to maximize it. It's our It's our choice.

maximize it. It's our It's our choice.

And you know, this is where you ask yourself, okay, well, how many people are signing up to taking the $50,000 signing bonus to go be become a member of ICE to get rid of these people? Like,

how much is, you know, what is this going to look like? And then when you have the intelligence services, when you have the intelligence services now openly declaring sedition,

>> right? And that means that you're going

>> right? And that means that you're going to have institutional some level of institutional support when you have Democratic governors who you know are

going to move into open revolt. When you

look at what and I I identified this immediately when the minute they started the discussion about maha about making about changing the dietary rules and the

uh for school lunches and all the and all of that stuff. The first thing the Democratic governors all did was get together and create a regional health council amongst all of them to ignore

the federal government. That was an act of insurrection as far as I'm concerned.

And they should have all been [ __ ] arrested.

>> Well, here's it's even worse, Tom, because even in the red states like Texas, most of the big cities are blue.

>> Most of the big cities are all blue. So,

we have And Tom, this all gets, you know, forgive me. want to definitely bring you in here because Tom, this um Alex, this is really your ant jar. This

is how the ant jars get created by the British. They do these force population

British. They do these force population movements around the empire. They still

consider us all part of the empire whether we call ourselves that or not.

They do. And so what do they do? They do

these for and they've been doing it. I

mean this is Eastern Europe writ large going back to the Romans because this is the Romans that we're dealing with by the way people. That's who the British are. They are the freaking Romans.

are. They are the freaking Romans.

Everything they do maps exactly down on how the Romans operated. And this is what the Romans did. The way in which a big part of how the Romans maintain the empire is they never had to take on a big enemy because they just moved different groups into different areas.

So they'd always, you know, to Alex your point, they do the antar. What's

happening? We could try and sit here and go, well, what's done is done and we'll make we'll make room for these people and we'll figure it out. The problem is is that what's happened is the ant jars

are now here. And if we do this and we allow these 240 million people to say stay, there will be a thousand-year ant jar in our own countries just the same

as there's 2,000 years of ondemand conflict in Eastern Europe.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Right. So, it's not a matter of, you know, it's literally a matter of are we committing to doing the hard things for 30 years or 40 years, which is what it's going to take to reverse this, or are we

committing as a people to a thousand years of non-stop conflict on demand?

But here's what about this?

>> Okay.

>> Uh there may be two ways to go about this.

>> One of them is to start getting rid of all these people.

The other way might be to attack the mother ship and to quarantine them and to route them out and to end their lines completely because they're

physical people.

And I wonder if that's where Palante comes in, you know.

>> Yeah, Alex, I love how your mind's going by the way.

>> Love it.

>> That's that was what I was Guys, that's what I was kind of alluding to earlier is that it's the same thing. I agree

with you, Alex, that that yes, you have to take those people out.

>> You have to have >> Hold on a second.

>> You have to have [laughter] >> I want to give Alex some room here as well. Right.

well. Right.

>> Go ahead, Alex.

>> So, Palanteer, please carry on, Alex.

>> Well, because as far as I haven't been able to figure out Palunteer, it's it's exactly the the the tool or a set of tools. I don't know

what the hell it is actually that uh enables them to very rapidly comb through databases and interpret information and to

um to target certain groups, individuals for certain reasons, you know. So

>> I've used Palunteer. I've used

Palunteer.

>> You I've used Palunteer. Palunteer is

trash. It's the penopticon con. I've

written on this a couple times. It's to

give the illusion of that kind of power.

doesn't work.

>> Oh, okay.

>> It doesn't work. It's to give the illusion of this type of, you know, high level. It's the great deception, which

level. It's the great deception, which I've written on extensively, but I've written specifically on the ponopticon con just on an energy conversion basis alone, Palunteer couldn't work, but I know from direct personal experience

having used Palunteer and work. Now,

Palunteer does have value in that Palunteer hires the very best analysts in the world and they know how to use Palunteer's tools, but you still have to have start points. you still, you know,

people have no idea how targeting really works. You can't just put in a, you

works. You can't just put in a, you know, um, a prompt, right? And then come out with a set of, you know, um, this person at this time, you know, Mr. Mustard in the library with a

candlestick, right? It doesn't it

candlestick, right? It doesn't it doesn't work that way. You have to have start points for your targeting and then you can use these tools to to do all kinds of sophisticated things. But

people need to understand humanity on just just a thermodynamics and conservation energy of basis alone. The

ponopticon is not possible. Palanteer is

not actually energetically thermodynamically possible.

>> I I will second that uh analysis. I I

watched the um an interview you did recently em um I can't remember who it was with. I watched the first 15 20

was with. I watched the first 15 20 minutes of it and I went and I was listening to the and he did the end did a great job of of laying this out why and I was and being the old scientist

and physicist that I am I'm like can't argue with it. He's he's correct. It's

it's a it's a paro problem which is that every you know that for every 80% of the people that you wanted to to get the next 20% you know of the next 80% it cost 80% more money to get the next 20%

of the people% >> and then with each 20 and then it just becomes like astronomically um you know expensive to get to go that last mile and the last mile problem are the people that you're never going to be able to get under the panopticon and

they're the ones that are going to destroy the panopticon because they can see it coming from a mile away And so it and and eventually it's it's the same argument about the whole debt based

financing system that eventually, you know, it starts out you you issue a dollars worth of debt and you get $3 worth of GDP when you have no debt. Then

you know after a while it's you issue a dollar worth of debt, you get $2 worth of GDP and then you get one and then you get 0.5 and then you get 0.25 and then you get 0.025 and then you're issuing it's it insane amounts of debt to get no

increase in >> gross domestic product. That's where we are. That's their system and that's why

are. That's their system and that's why we know energetically why their system is about to crash. Well, their their financial system is about to crash which is why they're now trying to crash

everything else along the way.

>> Give you [laughter] just on the so I can understand this. So

this could also be referring to what they want to do with digital ids and CBDC's.

Yeah.

>> At the end of the day, >> this is this is let me finish. This is

very reassuring.

>> It would mean at the end of the >> It ain't going to work. It's completely

flawed. It would take >> They know it. Yeah. And they know it.

>> Back to ancient Egypt. The Samrians,

what did they do? They have to convince you that they have this power that they don't have.

>> Yes.

>> Because to Tom's point, they can put 20% of the energy into getting 80% output, >> but you can't go to where they're putting where they're putting their their energy right now is convincing you that you're

>> correct. Correct. So it's it's what we

>> correct. Correct. So it's it's what we it's what I started calling the other day. I was literally listening to Ye.

day. I was literally listening to Ye.

I'm like, "Oh, right. What we have to discuss now is ending the myth of the omnipotent X."

omnipotent X." >> There you go.

>> X is the Jews, the British, the this, the that doesn't matter what it is. It's

like a year, two years ago, we had the big um um Cat 5 hurricane barreling in on Florida and they ran an unbelievable [ __ ] scop on all of us that they

could control the weather through HARP.

>> Correct. It was off the [ __ ] charts, guys. I spent two I had to spend two

guys. I spent two I had to spend two weeks talking my own people off the freaking ledge about this. And I had so much push back because they because people have been convinced that HARP is

a real thing that this is real. They can

do weather hurricanes and wipe out whole populations. I'm like balance their

populations. I'm like balance their checkbooks for [ __ ] sake. And you

think >> it's the Pharaoh being responsible for the flooding of the Nile. We've just

gotten way more sophisticated. You know,

the flooding that the denial, you know, what the analog is. I want to go back to >> We have to break down that whole concept of them being omnipotent.

>> I haven't had a chance to apologize to Tom for this or to confess.

>> Yeah.

>> I fell for that sil.

>> It happens. We all do. I've fallen for them. Look, when I go off when I go off

them. Look, when I go off when I go off on a rant about how it's not how how I just don't [ __ ] believe it's the Jews, it's because I used to be one of those guys. No,

those guys. No, >> I used to be it. When you have an I watch when you have an addictive personality.

>> Yeah.

>> And you go from being wholly in this space and then you go, "Oh, I was wrong about that." And what do you do? You

about that." And what do you do? You

glom on to another goddamn thing to become addicted to and then you become addicted to that. So rest. Right now I'm addicted to to hating the British. But

guess what? There's a reason for this.

And and it's because the British keep trying to tell everybody that they're not powerful. [ __ ] you. You are. We know

not powerful. [ __ ] you. You are. We know

you. We can see you.

>> And what I'm trying to do is actually deprogram people from falling for the big JQ freaking scop when it's not. It's

a mixture of everybody when at the end of the day it's just being a bag is not an ethnicity, >> Alex.

>> Or a gender.

>> Or a gender. Yes. Exactly. [laughter]

>> Alex.

>> Yeah. I I have some Jewish [clears throat] friends and some gay friends. [laughter]

friends. [laughter] I have an Indian.

>> Do you have any Indian friends? I have a British friend. He's right here. Do you

British friend. He's right here. Do you

have any >> I have a Pakistani [laughter] friend?

>> Same saying.

>> But but but but no, on a on a serious note, on a serious note, I guess you don't need a I guess you don't need Palunteer to go after the after the top of the pyramid.

>> No, >> you know, up to the Because >> I think for the most part, you you already know who they are.

>> Yes.

>> But you see, I had >> and you get to them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I

had in my head uh a fiction novel which I hope I'll get to one one day about how we want peace and and the in the end what happens is

that uh you know uh the Russians in cooperation with the Americans they run this intelligence agency

which traces lineages and finds the whole wide family networks.

And then in the end they they get to the they get to the to the to the to the top guy, they bring him to a meeting and they have a they have like on on a video

link they have practically the same scene as the as the assassination of Zar Nicholas II. Same thing only as this

Nicholas II. Same thing only as this guy's family.

And then they say >> here's here's the problem guys. The

problem is it isn't okay. Okay. So Tom

to use your reference and I've been writing this in the novel uh Alex or fiction right nobody actually owns the high table.

Nobody actually owns it. There are no families. There's no countries no

families. There's no countries no institutions organizations. Now there

institutions organizations. Now there are families institutions organizations that come and go across time that benefit from it more than others. But

nobody actually owns the high table. The

high table is an emergent property of the sport of kings competition as it as it plays this great game which is the ones who sit at the table and the ones who come to the table. The sport of kings are families, organizations,

institutions that come and go across time. And this is the problem. We are by

time. And this is the problem. We are by nature we instinctively think intuitively think that there are owners of the table and there aren't. That's

not how it works. Otherwise, the table would have been done away with a long time ago, >> right? They tried to do away with, you

>> right? They tried to do away with, you know, and there's there's uh fractal tables in different civilizational peoples. The Russians have a high table.

peoples. The Russians have a high table.

They tried to do away with that with communism over 80 years. It didn't work.

The high table came right back. Why?

Because it wasn't anybody. It was the Russian civilization.

>> Same with the Chinese system. It's the

system.

>> It's a it's a civilization, right? Which

is a complex code, you know, ludicrously complex code book. Well, we have a problem in the English speaking world.

For 300 years, we've forgotten that we're a civilizational people and we own our own damn table. And we need to stop letting these zero, forgive me, Alex, but we need to stop letting these zero, [laughter]

you know, convince us that they own, you know, that they are in control of our table and that we don't have two separate tables and we don't have two separate positions at the table, right?

But this is the problem we have. The

people who sit at the table also come and go, but the people who sit at the table, you know, at the high table, they don't own the table. They're they're the highest level management above them though quite literally and I've been

thinking this out in great detail over the last couple weeks as I'm writing now these chapters what actually legitimately if we want to think of an owner of the

table the owners of the table are women they are matrinal lines they are genetic pools that come together in civilization societal and civilizational peoples

because patrineal lines rarely make it past three generations five six at the post matrinal generations can go 40 unbroken or more. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah,

or more. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah,

>> they're the Benny Jesuit.

>> They're the Benny Jesuit. Very good.

>> That's exactly it.

>> Frank Herbert saw this.

>> Frank Frank Herbert saw this all.

>> That's exactly what it is.

>> And I will and I will tell you re reading um the later Dune books, the ones that happen after the original trilogy, which are which is Paul and Trady's story. when you go forward in

Trady's story. when you go forward in time and you see where Herbert's thinking was. Yeah. Heretic her the god

thinking was. Yeah. Heretic her the god awful god emperor heretics chapter house and then the two and then the final book split over two hunters and sandworms that was written by after Herbert's

death based on his outline. You can see what he's what he was talking about >> and you can see what he was thinking. Um

and >> show the high table. Yeah. And yeah, and and the and after, you know, after Leato holds the um humanity in amber for 3,500

years, you know, who's the power who are the power brokers in the in the universe of the Beny Jesuit and the and it creates a what he what he called

scattering and everybody went out into the get out from underneath that tyranny and then what came back was an hyper in hyper heightened um version of that same

Honored matress.

>> Yeah. The honored mress who were cra who you know crazy hypersexual >> um feminists basically like fourthwave feminists gone gone vile gone violent.

And you know it's all of this back and forth. What I'm doing getting at here is

forth. What I'm doing getting at here is that I started rereading those because I wanted to see what Herbert was thinking.

Right. Not because they're great books.

>> Yeah.

>> Because they're not great books. They're

well they're way overwritten. Um so I'm reading them so that you don't have to.

um as a as a the way of putting it, but Herbert's thinking around these issues was absolutely correct. And one of the interesting things about Herbert's thinking on all of this and

this is going to be this is actually this again gets back into well why does why can't Tom understand what I the interesting part about it is that in

that world 5,000 years after Paulrades where are the Jews in all of this big and it's a big religious war you've got the benyaks are clearly the inheritors of Islam you've got and there's the

attempted rush re reemergence of Christianity That's what's coming. That's, you know, and the Benny Jesuit are the keepers of the status quo. And and who are the

Jews? They're where they always are. A

Jews? They're where they always are. A

barnacle attached to the dominant power.

They are not the dominant power. They

are ruthless and homeless. And they are a and they are attached to the dominant power. They actually exist as spies for

power. They actually exist as spies for many Jesuit.

>> Yeah. So,

>> and it's very interesting that he saw it that way. and and you know the and so

that way. and and you know the and so one of the things that we can we can we can take away for our world today is that what we see about um I I'm

beginning to at least look at the relationship between Israel and the British Empire in a different light in that um at least be willing to ex think about it in this way not necessarily

that it's wholly descriptive but that we have why would they why would the the Jews go along with all of the Zionism and and the you get a home in Israel and all of this stuff. Well, because you

know after World War II, they want a home. They want they they need to have

home. They want they they need to have some stability as a people. Makes sense

that you align yourself with the most dominant power before British. And then

when the British transferred their power to the United States, >> then they attached themselves and they embed themselves in the United States power structure. And why it's a

power structure. And why it's a survival?

>> Nothing.

>> Great management class. They're a great management class. Alex, I want to go. So

management class. Alex, I want to go. So

Tom that's just want to throw it out there as an idea for people to think about descriptive.

>> They're the whipping boys. I've been

talking Alex, I want to go back and I want to tie it into what Tom just said, right? Because if we want to impact

right? Because if we want to impact what's happening at the table and we need and we're trying to go above the table, we have to get to these old natural lineal families because they're the ones that have the relationships

because everybody thinks, oh, it's business, it's contracts and law. No,

no, no. Everything is personal >> at that level. Everything is personal.

Yeah. And

>> right. And so if we're going to impact all of this, you know, we can take the enemy on head on all we want. They're

going to beat us >> because they own the game, right? Or

they own the great game. They control

it. So you got to go above them. You got

to supersede them. You got to have a conversation. And I've been trying to

conversation. And I've been trying to figure this out. I'm writing a whole novel about it. I'm, you know, having these conversations. But we got to get

these conversations. But we got to get to the matriarchs and articulate to them. Now, here's the problem we have.

them. Now, here's the problem we have.

We have too many low and mid-status women who are in who have come up in this artificial status hierarchy of the you know post-industrial world. Lower

stat low and mid- status women will breed outside of their social groups because they're hoping to elevate their status and or to dilute the current

status hierarchy such that they can change their status. So what we have got to do is we've got to get to the high status women and say listen this is what's really happening. this is what's really going on and these are the things

men have got to say this is the things that are going to have to happen because those women are the ones that are going to pull all the levers for all the relationships and all of this like everybody's looking at George Soros as he's the big bad power I guarantee you

in the source house it was the wife I've known a number of billionaires in my life I've known a number of royals in my life etc the wife was the power or the daughter bride or their mother and if you look more closely at history

particularly our European and English history holy [ __ ] the women have always been the bar.

>> Em, just to follow up on that, um, >> yeah, >> before my wife and I got married, >> he said, "You got to come to Pakistan cuz you know I I don't come on my own.

There's this whole package that you're you're buying into if you marry me." So,

uh, for 10 days, she met 54 of, uh, of my family members, and there were a few there were others that we didn't get to meet in 10 days. And she came back, but and people don't know, she's Scottish Christian. And she came back and she was

Christian. And she came back and she was like, "People have got it so wrong." My

My family in Pakistan, very comfortable, affluent, middle class. They said they got it so wrong.

Rich's uncles, she didn't say Rich cuz she knows what her real name is. Rich's

uncles have they have a really, really hard life. They work like dogs.

hard life. They work like dogs.

>> Yeah.

>> And and the aunts, [clears throat] they're at home. They're drinking tea.

They got servants running around, you know, clothes pressed, just chatting, meeting with other with friends and everything and socializing. They have a really easy life.

>> They have the power.

>> They have the power because the that's okay. So the historically all men, even

okay. So the historically all men, even kings, did the fighting and we did the management and we fought, you know, we've been in this great game or the sport of kings every minute of every day. We do that to shield the world of

day. We do that to shield the world of women. Women have always been the power

women. Women have always been the power because again people can look this up right? If you look at matrineal versus

right? If you look at matrineal versus patrineal lines, patrineal lines rarely make it 200 years. Female lines can go a thousand or more.

And in Europe right now there's four or five of these houses that are from 300 years to 900 years that we know probably older in the house of Garcenda. Those

daughters don't just marry royalty, they also marry top bankers, military leaders, right? So these daughters of

leaders, right? So these daughters of these houses are the mothers of all Europeans and all English speaking peoples and their lines go back

unbroken. Some of them again to 900s

unbroken. Some of them again to 900s and maybe some of them are even older than that like in Italy etc. But we've lost records you know because that's one of the things when you're a conqueror you like burn the old records so that

you know you can rewrite the narrative but the story stays you know that that the traditions and the knowledge and the real story passes down from mother to daughter.

No Alex >> I do apologize. I'm going to have to go because I have I have hungry uh young ones >> complaining. Do you need You don't need

>> complaining. Do you need You don't need children. I'm a child protection social

children. I'm a child protection social worker. I can tell you that.

worker. I can tell you that.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Same here.

>> I I I find this very very fascinating. I

think I learned a a shitload this evening >> and uh I'm processing it now. So I I don't know what to say. But uh thank

you.

>> Well it is and is and thank you Alex, you know I I I when Thanksgiving comes every year, I'm like I'm taking the weekend off, right? And uh but you know we tried to get this together a couple

weeks ago and I'm like can't do it. Too

busy. How about And like how about Black Friday? like only you guys because I had

Friday? like only you guys because I had a date with just frankly I had a date with Guil Wars I today that I did not want to you know um to to deal with at all and uh but no this is this has been this has been great this has been very

illuminating and it's been very interesting so um yeah and edgy like it's not like we didn't like edge into areas that are uncomfortable but that's the only way we can actually push the

push these ideas forward and push the conversation forward and sometimes have conversations that we're not allowed to have >> like this is this is the thing, you know, if you you know, like I I get I I

I'm at that point and we're like, "No, no, you think we're not allowed to have that conversation. No, this is the

that conversation. No, this is the conversation we're not allowed to have."

Like um >> Yeah.

>> And um on multiple areas and you know, it's very important. So, thank you guys.

It was good. It was great fun catching up with you all. Have a wonderful weekend. We'll talk soon.

weekend. We'll talk soon.

>> Thank you. Anything for you? You want to finish up?

>> Oh, no. Guys, thanks for putting it together.

>> Em, thank you. Uh, Rich, it was good.

Have a great weekend.

>> Yep.

>> And >> everybody gets to be an honorary American and happy Thanksgiving.

>> Alex, you the hunger of your children on the two Englishmen in the room [laughter] >> and one bread. One who's a bread. I get

I get to be a great [laughter] Take care, guys.

Byebye. Take care. Bye-bye.

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