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today's session, Chuck and Mike will discuss ISO 901 2026, the potential changes impacts of this final draft version. This is from an auditors and

version. This is from an auditors and certification bodies perspective. In

addition, they will cover what's driving the changes, how they align with emerging trends in quality and business performance. They will also cover

performance. They will also cover expected new and revised clauses to watch including those related to the context of the organization, leadership, riskbased thinking and process

performance, and provide practical guidance on transition timelines, preparation steps, and gap analysis strategies.

Whether you're new to ISO 90001 or managing an established QM, this webinar today will help you anticipate what's ahead, understand the impact on

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presenting today. And now I'd like to turn it over to you.

>> Okay. Thank you everyone. I'm Chuck KD.

I'm the uh product line manager for Tipsuit Americas. Today's uh discussion

Tipsuit Americas. Today's uh discussion points will be basically the background on the 26 uh revisions, key additions, modifications, what comes next, and then

we'll open it up for questions.

Okay, as we all are familiar, you know, the ISO uh standard goes through a series of reviews uh to make sure it's still current to business and world

needs. Uh so that's what they've done is

needs. Uh so that's what they've done is they've basically built upon the 2015 standard uh including enhancements into sustainability, ethics and opportunity

based thinking. Uh with that uh let's go

based thinking. Uh with that uh let's go over some of the highlights of some of these changes.

The changes in the introduction area um build upon the seven quality principles that were established in 2015 with the

addition of uh more emphasis on uh the s sustainable development and opportunity based thinking and risk based thinking.

Uh climate change is also adopted uh for the dynamic external factors that we all face today.

terms and conditions have been expanded upon. Those also will now include um

upon. Those also will now include um more uh interested party uh definition and explicitible requirements for broader examples. And then context of

broader examples. And then context of the organization has new requirements related to climate change and interested parties now will also be part of that

thought process and discussion boards.

as it comes towards leadership.

Leadership there is some new requirements that explicitly uh promote the leadership equality culture within the organization and also support the behaviors not just

demonstrated a commitment.

In planning, there's some expanded requirements explicit to the dedicated subclause for actions to address risk and opportunity based thinking is

distinct, not just the absence of risk.

As it comes towards support, support is mostly unchanged although it will now uh place more emphasis on people necessary

for the effective operation of the uh QM and also from an operations perspective.

It now considers remote and hybrid workplaces operations. The requirements are

operations. The requirements are clarified and kept structurally the same but there is a stronger link to risk risk and opportunity throughout the management system requirements.

as it relates towards performance evaluation.

Performance evaluation uh additional emphasis on evaluation of the effectiveness of actions as it's related to those risks and opportunities.

Pretty much uh 10 stays the same uh with reinforce expectation through breakthrough changes, innovation and proactive adaptation of a requirement.

And then also there's an expansion of uh annexa which provides further clarification which we'll cover uh in the next session.

All right, I'm going to turn it over now to my colleague Mike and he will go through the rest of the information with a little bit more details.

>> Okay, so I'll take the summary. So thank

you very much. Um

there was an annexo that also has been updated to be more in line with the standardization of the documentation and also tied in with a resolution. And if

everybody remembers that last year the idea of the concept of influence on climate change was added as an amendment. And you'll see as we go

through this upgrade that this concept is now embedded within the 901 standard.

Um and it will also be embedded in all updated revisions of other standards as they come down. So um the annexa has

been a little bit more expanded more for um definition and guidance.

We eliminated the B.

We do not and there is no expectation that an organization will require significant effort to identify or implement these changes. So if those of

you who remember 2003 and we had the panic of 2003 when everybody most companies waited till the last three months of the third year to upgrade to the 2000 standard.

That's not going to happen this time.

there is put your mind to rest that the changes are not drastic and not going to cause any type of upheaval.

They are a lot of restructuring, reorganization, better explanation, clarification and we'll be going through that my next section where we take each of the clauses and we'll take a look and

see you know what has really changed, what has been remolded or rephrased. So

if we can move on to the next slide.

Okay, we'll go back to the next one.

Okay, in this one, this is where you see that they've actually added the climate change is a relevant issue.

So it's requiring the organization to look to see, okay, you know, is climate change relevant to us? There's no mandate to say it has to

us? There's no mandate to say it has to be. There's no man who says it doesn't

be. There's no man who says it doesn't have to be. This is for the company to assess in the spirit of sustainability, environmental friendliness.

So we are looking at that is being now considered whether it's a relevant issue. The note has been updated to

issue. The note has been updated to actually talk about the strategic direction of the company. I know when I audited I used would ask the head

um head of management heads you know where do you want the company to be five years and how are you going to use the system to get there. So yes this is where they're bringing in that the

manage to be used to support the strategic direction of the company.

Okay, this we'll move on again. This is what they've added to the

again. This is what they've added to the understanding the needs and expectation of interested parties is they're bringing this out that climate change may be a need or an expectation related

to some of your interested parties whether they be customers your local area government anything that would be giving you

something that would be giving you input and would have an interest.

So it is emphasizing that you know look to see if climate change is amongst your needs and expectations from your interested parties.

Scope really hasn't changed. They just

added a little bit to the requirements referred to in 4.2 in plan is covered to provide justification for requirements. what is

the documentation? What are you looking at? You know, what is not applicable?

at? You know, what is not applicable?

So, kind of a reclass rewording of this section.

Okay, we move on.

Quality management system. You'll see

now throughout the standard, this is an example what they did with rephrasing in the 215. It refers to itself as the international standard. You're going to

international standard. You're going to see throughout the document that it now is referring itself as this document.

It is also bringing concept of evidence to be presented or be maintained to show compliance to the requirements of your

own processes, your own requirements, the requirements of the standard.

So again they rewarded this the sentence included the term evidence leadership and this as I think check a little about is bringing a little bit more into the leadership

rewarding of it objectives established compatible with again the strategic direction looking more forward thinking bringing the you know tying the

management system in as a tool to help management achieve their strategic objectives.

Supporting personnel contribute to the effectiveness.

And as you remember, we've always had the words improvement into the standard.

You'll see that they have moving that to the concept of continual improvement and that will come up as we talk in

later clauses that they are looking for moving to this concept of you know becoming more efficient more effective leadership

highlight you'll see that promoting quality culture and an ethical behavior this is a little bit new on the ethical behavior of the company.

How how does the company is perceived in the outside world?

Look at a process approach and risk based thinking is emphasizing that we are moving more and more away from a like a clause section but to more of

looking at the processes that make up the management system.

take in account of the effectiveness of the management system and look at the ability of the quality culture and ethical behavior reflected in the shared values

customer focus really there is no change so they didn't do any rewarding to that section of the clause we move on policy this is where you'll see some type of

changes they brought in the quality shall be implemented and maintained I just recently learned that this standard has passed through the FDIS.

It is being brought for a final discussion and development of the final version for release and an option as I said is this

ter this statement of the quality policy shall be implemented and maintained is one of the items that may not be there in the final revision.

So, as we talk about this and we're telling you the standards, we're giving you the core changes. These are pretty much the things you'll see. There may be some semantics that are left out in the

final release.

And then when that final release comes out, we will be in communicating with all our clients on what the changes are and what the plan is. But you can see they eliminated some of the wording,

communicated, doesn't require register apply, but now is within the organization.

And they said available to interested parties. No longer relevant, but they

parties. No longer relevant, but they kind of expanded it to generally interested bodies.

Okay, let's go to the next slide.

Roles and responsibility restructured the sub clauses. They split things. They

rewarded it. There no real content changes.

Again, we put opportunities for improvement to the top management. There

was a kind of a split here. So there's

really more cosmetic changes in this clause.

Okay, let's move on to planning. This is

where it gets interesting. This is where they've actually split risk and opportunities. So you'll see a new sub

opportunities. So you'll see a new sub clause developed which will be on the next slide. But the first thing is

next slide. But the first thing is talking about risks and opportunities.

And as we get into this, remember risks doesn't necessarily mean negative.

Assessing, evaluating, and taking action on risks can minimize negative influences, but it can also enhance positive influences.

So what's the risk? We'll look in there.

And it also brings in the concept of the continual improvement.

This is actually 612 risk is actually a new content with a focus on risk. But if you read through it, you'll pretty much see it's taken

out of the 215 talking about the actions that could be taken performing product and services. How to

ensure you do that during and after if there's a disruption. And again, you know, and

a disruption. And again, you know, and actions that take risk or address risk could be either avoiding or taking them or pursuing them or eliminating them.

Again, remember that risk is not just getting rid of possible dangers, but it can also embrace positive opportunities.

on quality objectives and plans to achieve them. There's no real

achieve them. There's no real restructuring.

There was no real changes in here. So,

this would pretty much go the way it is.

Planning changes to ensure implement effective. They want to make sure you

effective. They want to make sure you look at the intended results and consider these different possibilities, the changes and potential consequences.

Added to it is how's the effectiveness of the change be monitor and evaluated.

So when there are change, how you're tracking it. If you remember going back

tracking it. If you remember going back to the plan to check act cycle that has come through the quality field that is along the line of what you're

looking at. If you're going to do

looking at. If you're going to do change, make sure you track it and you evaluate the result of the change. How

do you communicate it? And again,

evaluate the results.

So, support resources really no changes.

So, they didn't have anything in there to go through.

Infrastructure environments for operations, the process. They're looking

at what can be different depending on the products. what are the factors

the products. what are the factors that bring it in quality culture and also ethical behavior.

So not only is looking as I was looking at how you bring the ethics, the honesty, the integrity of the management system into the organization.

Monitoring has been rewarded. Nothing

real general in there.

712 7152 as you remember is traceability usage relates to devices measurement evaluation test devices but now it's

called measurement results they have brought in the concept that calibration is actually a two-phase approach you know the first step is verification you check the device against the node

standard and see if device is still acceptable that's verification calibration is when you find the device out, you adjust it

back to a known value.

Thus would be calibration. So now

they're looking for the to make sure that you have those documented information available not only just for calibration but also to demonstrate the verification

activities also about a little bit expansion on when you have a measurement that's filed out. How do you protect product?

out. How do you protect product?

How do you en you know evaluate the impact of that device going out of control on any previous measurements and take the appropriate action?

So again the title rewarded changes retained available rewarded and so expanded verification activities.

So okay track we do competency again there not really any significant changes in here replacing the international standard with the word document no

changes again appropriate document information will be available as evidence. So again, instead of using the terminology retained information or retained documentation as

in the 215, they're now looking at this as being documentation to support as evidence compliance and in this case competency.

So we can move to the next slide. If we

go to operations a lot here was consolidation and rewarding. As you can see they're

rewarding. As you can see they're talking about a relevant to the management system for the products.

Again, documented information shall be available as evidence to demonstrate conformity requirements. 42

requirements. 42 little bit expansion to customer communication.

They added the note that you see in here that you know how do you communicate to customers? Bringing it back to our era

customers? Bringing it back to our era now that meetings can be electronic, electronic mail, document exchanges, website content, social media,

training that can be offered.

Determination of requirements for products and services. There have been no changes recorded for that section.

Review of requirements. has a couple of ads again where applicable requirements of customer including delivery post delivery and in the note they actually expanded

to include websites now that they have starting to play more and more of a role in product and services.

A3 we come back to documented information shall be available as evidence to show the results of review and any new changes how they were

reviewed approved and communicated to the relevant interested parties. So

you know so if there's a change order that comes through how's it processed how's it accepted how's capability and how is it communicated through the process

design and development go through off one slide but design they have rewarding I'll put this in a general

than rewarding. They have actually in

than rewarding. They have actually in here emphasized more the fact of having documented information as evidence to show compliance to the different

clauses.

So, and again if you look at the through the controls, the inputs, the outputs, the emphasis is supporting documented information.

Um, design has been an area that I've always audited in a value added approach because it's important to a company who has design

not only to document their evidence to defend against anybody and try to do a patent challenge. I try and say they

patent challenge. I try and say they brought the product first, but also shows consistency and a systematic approach with the company and to doing design development of products or

services.

Control of external processes, products and services. Again, documented information

services. Again, documented information how it's being used. Can be made available as evidence. Most of the sections did not have any changes.

Release a product a requirement again for documented information to be maintained as evidence. So, as you see, this is a lot that you are already doing. It's already implied that you

doing. It's already implied that you know you'll have records of how you released the product. Control

non-conforming outputs really no changes. Headers change to reflect

changes. Headers change to reflect document information again as evidence.

Performance evaluation repeats the need for document information as evidence. Monitor

customer satisfaction again now through social media.

you know what are your customers or what you know what are your customers telling about you in LinkedIn or in Tik Tok or what are the other social medias evaluation of data

internal auditing wording is pretty much the same but instead of saying plain intervals they replace it with frequency so you know how frequent how have you determine the frequency of your internal

audits in your internal audit program now you justify either deep increasing or decreasing the frequency of audits

management review came in. Interesting

that if you remember that 215 says there are certain series of inputs that should be or shall be considered and that became a contention with

auditors of what this shall be considered is how do you demonstrate evidence of consideration. If you look at the new standard it now says that these are definitely inputs to the

management review.

So that you have to be accountable for all the listed inputs which really haven't changed.

Um output has been changed to the terminology of results and again reference to evidence improvement. Again bringing in the

improvement. Again bringing in the concept of continual improvement in the header instead of using general consolidated the terms and rewarding of

content is still there but again the concept they're pushing for this new revision is continual improvement. How

do you keep improving becoming more efficient and how do you increase the value of the management system you have in assisting with the company?

So nonconformity corrective action program again not rewarding non-conformity now covers all sources and notes that a customer complaint may

be a source of a nonconformity and lastly bringing in the evidence.

>> All right and I'll take it from here Mike. Thank you.

Mike. Thank you.

>> Okay.

>> Um lastly annex A represents a significant improvement to the standard by providing clear guidance of its requirements. It's encouraging

requirements. It's encouraging organizations to approach the requirements from a systems perspective emphasizing the inter relationship between the clauses in the processes.

Some of the new the additions are depicted below in A through A10.

Okay, with that what comes next?

>> Yep, I'll take it. Well,

>> what comes next is waiting for the final release.

Vegas has it has the odd favorite to come out in September.

Um and what's going to happen if and when and we'll use September as the um the basis of this if that if the

standards released in September we go to the last day of se of that month September 30th that will start or what we've come to believe will be a

three-year transition cycle.

And within that cycle, the first six months, the accreditation bodies have to get accredited. The ANAPs, the SAC's,

get accredited. The ANAPs, the SAC's, jazz in around their docs, they have to all be upgraded

to be able to accredit companies to the the certification bodies to the 226 2026 standard.

What happens with certification bodies like to have sort we get nine months from that last day of the publication month to submit our transition declaration to our accreditation body in

this case would be ANAP and we have 12 months from the last day of the mo the publication month to get

that completed and then we turn to the customers because after we get our recognition from ANAB we'll be able to

start offering upgrading to our customers and we've got pretty good patent for how we do this. There'll be a transition period

and during those cases we'll offer upgrades. We will wait for the

upgrades. We will wait for the transition guide directive to come out that tells us how we can do it. if we'll

be adding days to the surveillance or visa to do the accredit you know the upgrade not sure but we do know that you know 18 months from the last day of the

publication month we will not be allowed to issue any new 901215 certificates and anyone issued will have a you know

we'll basically have an expiration date that reflects that 36 months from the last month of publication pretty much what happened when we were doing the other standards. Some of the

more recent standards have gone through an upgrade and we will transition the clients through that period and that period ends

36 months from the last day three years.

So if any company has not upgraded three years from so let's say it's September 2029 they will not no longer be considered certified. They'll have to go through

certified. They'll have to go through initial certification to the 2026 standard till 3 years to the date of the last of the

last day of the month of publication.

The ISO 901215 standard will join its ancestors and ISO heaven and we will be with the 2026.

What we'll do also is we will keep all our clients informed through our website through correspondence with your project coordinators or key account management of what the progress is.

We'll use our website to tell you when it's published, what our transition plan is going to be, and we'll start working with our clients for a transition plan.

We'll also be offering education on this standard through our academy.

And at that point, I will hand it over with tow.

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have a Q&A button on the right side of your screen. Please submit your question

your screen. Please submit your question there or you can unmute and put on your video and ask a question live. So we are

getting questions on the Q&A tab. So

I'll take a few of those questions. Um,

so let's see. Please clarify on how risks and opportunities have been separated.

Mike or Chuck.

So they have two distinct you know the the the standard is identifying two different distinct you know from a from a improvement standpoint right what are

the risks in an oper in an organization and where can they benefit from from different ideas or changes to the organization using you know AI is on

everybody's um you know agenda today how can we use these new you know techniques uh you know new ways of doing business um you know could be incorporated into

the design of the product or the process itself. So you know a risk is if we

itself. So you know a risk is if we don't do something you know your typical SWAT analysis right and then the opportunities are where the organization

could benefit from these improvements uh by utilizing you know upcoming or or you know emerging technologies or or

ideas.

>> Okay. Excellent. Thank you Chuck. So uh

remember we do have a Q&A tab on the right. You can ask your question. So,

right. You can ask your question. So,

we've had other questions come in. Um,

this is from Sarah. Has there been a decision if AS9100 and ISO 90001 will be separate certifications?

We didn't talk about AS9100 today. So,

Mike, you're on mute.

>> Oh, good. That gave me a chance to get my satirical side out, but we're still working on that. The AS has been holded back their revision, waiting for the ISO

9,0001 to be released.

So the AS side is a little bit in limbo waiting for this standard be um to come out so that they can update the 9104

which is the standard that certification bodies have to follow in the AS program.

Um my new noerts are being diff um separated if the scopes are different.

or with in China they have some new CNCA money management rules that have gone into effect that are moving us to separate the nine of the as certificates.

Um but that's something we'll keep posted on as you know the IAG I believe it issues any correspondence or directions

for that.

>> Okay, thanks Mike. So here's a question.

Since the changes aren't significant, could the transition period be shorter than 3 years?

>> That is possible. Right now, the first draft of the transition document that I've seen has it as a three-year period.

And when it is finalized, they may decide to turn it into two years, which will accelerate the cycle. But that is something that we'll have to wait for

the group of the new organization makes that determination.

And again, once we know and we have the transition plan out, we'll communicate it.

>> Okay. Okay. Again, reminder Q&A tab uh to submit your questions or you can unmute, put on your video and ask a question live. Um okay. So multiple

question live. Um okay. So multiple

times when a word shall. What does the word shall mean? So is is conditional must like if we don't do it or have it, we need to have reasonable reason,

right?

I can answer that because usually I've done with companies and now I described it to my clients when I've audited them.

When you see shall in the stand it, it is like Moses coming down from the mountain with the tablets. You shall do it or the earth's going to go open up and you're going to be dropped into the

pits, the flaming pits. Um if you actually look at the beginning of even the current standards you have there is a a page where they describe what shall

should may constitute.

Shall is you will you will meet the requirements and if you don't this is where we write non-formities.

So >> okay. All right. Thank you Mike. All

>> okay. All right. Thank you Mike. All

right. Um again if you have a question Q&A tab on the right or unmute yourself and put on your video you can ask a question live. So, here's a question

question live. So, here's a question from Sakuro. If a company has yet to get

from Sakuro. If a company has yet to get certified to any version into the ISO 90001 world and do have aspirations to get this initiative off the ground this

year, do you recommend this company chasing certification to the 2026 or the current version? Just want to understand

current version? Just want to understand the fees and effectiveness.

Should they start now or wait for the 2026?

Yeah, I can handle that. I mean, as as you look at the implementation, if you've already have your implementation efforts already going towards the 901 2015,

then do so. Um, as as we've done in the past and as they have done in the past, you know, these standards when they make the revision, they have the implementation and the transition

timing. So irregardless of um if you're

timing. So irregardless of um if you're chasing a 901205 or 26 uh version of the

standard, obviously we we won't be able to do the 901 2026 until sometime late

either of 26 or early in 27. So I guess I would really reflect back on where the expectation for the certification will lie. Would it be within this year? And

lie. Would it be within this year? And

in that case, I will pursue 2015. If

it's sometime in the future, then obviously look at the 26 as you will then just do the the one, you know, certification audit.

>> Okay. Thank you, Chuck. Um, so I know you covered this uh the timing, Mike, but uh just to reiterate for everyone.

So Emily is asking how long do we have to implement changes?

you as it is presented now you'll have a maximum of three years from the month the last day of the month the standard is published so again if

it's September of 2026 we'll go to September 30th you add three years so basically September 30th 2029

will be the when the standard officially ceases to exist in that time so Okay, thank you for for that. Okay, here's a question from

that. Okay, here's a question from Scott. Does the 2026 update still

Scott. Does the 2026 update still require a heavy office-based certification or does it allow for more remotebased certifications

in person or remote?

>> There are actually separate directives we have. Um MD4 is a document from the

we have. Um MD4 is a document from the IF that gives us direction and it depends on the standard and what we're

ability to see. What we find especially is we try to make sure we do on site any process production manufacturing

processes that we can do. Um currently

our current practice is we will allow up to 50% remote depending on the type of the industry.

um if it's lowrisk office environment that's more apt to be done remotely versus something that has heavy manufacturing and then there are some cases we have where security

requirements prevent remote access and we still have to see the processes and validate that they're being compliant with your own

documentation your own procedures and the requirements of the standard >> okay thank Thank you, Mike. All right,

here's a question from Ulisses uh related to the quality culture. What

will be the impact on organizations in demonstrating objective evidence?

>> That's an it's a good question and that's something I think you're going to have to evaluate on a company basis. How

are you going to communicate that culture and ethics you know honesty truthfulness um it's your environment from the company

you already have establish this is something more to you're taking credit for what you're trying to do >> right organization >> as we look at this too I mean in some

cases you know I mean organizations um kind of distance themselves sometimes in a silo And you know as we come on board and we conduct audits you know

we're interacting with the the quality function right um what this is really implying is that it's embraced by all levels of the organization and supported

by the top management. So therefore

there should be a direct linkage from you know the expectations of the top management into the cascade of the processes and then obviously supporting

them from a quality culture perspective to make sure that everybody embraces the requirements of the QM.

>> Okay. Thank you Chuck. Uh again,

questions online, the Q&A tab, submit your questions there, or feel free to unmute, put on your video, and ask a question live. Okay, we're getting lots

question live. Okay, we're getting lots of questions, so that's great. Um, so is it best to transition uh during a surveillance audit or a reertification

audit?

>> Again, that would be up to the organization and their readiness. I mean

as we you know conduct the surveillance audits uh prior to reertification you know we will look at um or we could

actually have some kind of gap analysis which that's under one of the considerations that we have uh to help afford an organization to be able to make the transition but obviously we can

always test the water so to say when we do the surveillances to make sure that you're ready.

>> Okay. Excellent. Thank you, Chuck. Okay,

another question has come in. Uh, will

documentation requirements increase with the new ISO 901 2026.

>> I think that'll be on a case-byase basis on the demonstration how what the company's process are. Um, again, like I said, the wording changed from retain

documentation to evidence.

So I think you're going to find the first pass that you will have pretty much the same documentation to support compliance in the section of risk and opportunity

where kind of split a little bit. You

may have a little bit more documentation to support risk assessment.

Um but I really don't see a drastic increase in documentation supporting it.

>> Okay. Excellent. Thanks Mike. Again,

remember, submit your questions online, the Q&A tab, or feel free to unmute and put on your video and ask a question live. Uh, another question that has come

live. Uh, another question that has come in. So, um, will ISO 9012026

in. So, um, will ISO 9012026 align better with other standards such as ISO 14,0001, ISO 45,0001?

>> That is the purpose. It is they already have started when the when if you notice when the 215 came out and 14,000 215 came out and then the 45 was 18 came out

they followed the same numbering structure the head is in the core documentation number they are continuing to try to

bring them more and more in sync >> okay excellent related question will ISO 1401 and 45 standards also be updated in

2026 six.

>> I can tell you that the 14,0001 is in its final draft for vote and it will be released and published I would expect shortly or if not around

the same time as the 9,0001 that is still open for discussion and 45,000 revision is just in its very

early stages of discussion. So I think Chuck I think that's still going to be a couple of years away. Yes. From

>> most likely in 27.

>> Yeah. Right.

>> So, >> okay.

>> Do do expect the 14 to make like a I mean, we put a lot of emphasis and publicity on the 9,0001 and the 14,0001 seems to be quietly going through the process, you know, with little

attention.

And a lot of people are going to wake up and find out there's a release to the new standard and they will probably have the same type of transition period, the same approach as they're issuing for the

9,0001 2026.

>> Okay. And as mentioned, we will have a webinar later this year on the 14,0001 and 45,0001. So, we'll keep you posted

and 45,0001. So, we'll keep you posted on that. Uh, a question here just came

on that. Uh, a question here just came in from Ronald. Is consideration being given to upgrading additional QM such as IATF16949

for alignment?

Um, well, it's going to be interesting because the 196949 is actually based on the 90001, but in our world, the IATF is actually

under the jurisdiction of a different organization than the 1445.

Um, there is a specialized automotive group that runs the the ISO69.9.

So they have different sets of requirements and that's going to be up to them what they want to do.

>> But if history tells us anything, they're going to use the 9,126 as the basis for any decisions on updating that.

>> Yes.

>> Okay. Thank you. All right. Another

question. Uh, will internal audits need to change as a result of ISO 90001 2026 internal audits?

>> I would say check I would think that they should do at least a review >> to see if they're meeting the requirements and like for management review they check in to make sure all

now all of them are actually discussed at management review, you know, to just say we considered but not not doing it.

now they have to do it. So the overall internal audit program I don't will be that drastically changed but you know you'll be looking more at continual improvement. you'll be looking

continual improvement. you'll be looking more at evidence that is needs to be for compliance and I think it's more you

know you can use the internal audit to actually support the strategic direction to monitor for compliance to strategic direction so

>> okay there's a question from chatur chaternaga I hope the new certifications can still go for the previous version, but it

seems like not right.

>> Yeah. Once the transition once the final version of 9,0001 has been released, then we'll go into the transition timing.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. Um you know, at some point you you will still be able to do a 9001 certification up until our deadline of when we need to

stop issuing those certifications. So

once that deadline is passed then we cannot go back and do previous version of the standards.

>> Okay. Excellent. Okay. Here's a question from Christopher. If an organization has

from Christopher. If an organization has standard processes across all sites, what are the conditions that the site sampling can be incorporated into the reertification or the surveillance

audit?

The site sampling Well, I think that is already factored in, isn't it? Because we regroup similar processes, >> you know, sites that have similar

processes when we do the sampling.

>> Right.

>> Anything anything else, Chuck, there to add?

>> No. And and again, that that is handled under the requirements, too. So, I mean, that's also something that, >> you know, we must abide by, right? So

the IIAF um determines what the man mandates and the sampling uh for the certifications will be.

>> Okay. Uh another question, we're getting down to uh the end here, but will audits in your view uh do you feel become more

difficult with ISO 90001 2026?

>> I don't think so.

>> I don't see it as difficult. I think

it's just going to be a shift in culture in how easily an organization can adopt some of these culture-based

uh influences in the standard, right? Um

you know, really taking a hard look at where this adds benefit to the organization.

Mike, is there something else we can add?

>> Yeah, I'm trying to think that. I don't

think it'd be difficult. Um I think you know it's continually they're trying to get the standard to be more of a value added tool and I think that's what you're seeing

with these changes. So

I think it's going to it's going to help companies more with looking at the future of the company. That's why I think they brought the strategic direction and it's not the here and now.

This is, you know, this is a standard that is supposed to be used to help you better prepare or establish your strategic directions and how are you

going to meet them?

>> Okay. And Jessica's asking, will you re will she receive a copy of the presentation and updates? Yes, Jessica.

Today's session is being recorded and we will share the recording soon after the event. So, let's see. I don't see any

event. So, let's see. I don't see any other questions. Um remember you can

other questions. Um remember you can unmute or you can put on your video to ask a question or on the Q&A tab to the right you can submit your question live.

Um there are questions about timing and I know Mike you've covered that in shock. Um I don't know if you want to

shock. Um I don't know if you want to just summarize like when organizations need to transition to ISO 90001 2026.

Just uh repeat that if you could.

All right. The Well, this is where you have some patience because we're all waiting with baited breath to find out when they public because that starts the whole chain of events.

So, if they're true to the odds that it will be issued in September, you we'll start the notification process and start the window for transition based on the last day of that month. So,

September 30th, we'll start the three-year transition.

We'll notify you. And this is something that gets in parallel. The accreditation

body has to get ready and get recognized. We have to get ready to show

recognized. We have to get ready to show that we're capable to audit to the no new revision. We have to show that our auditors have been brought

up to date so they know what they're looking for. And once a a credits us or

looking for. And once a a credits us or recognizes us to do it, we'll notify that to the customers and we'll start, you know, the PCs will start working

with our clients to schedule their transition whether it be through a surveillance audit or an upgrade uh reertification.

Uh then I said we'll offer 215 like a for a transition period but after I believe the first year second year we're

not allowed to do 215. So

it the company will have three years to upgrade to the standard. I just suggest you don't wait for the third year because you introduce risks that

>> if something isn't right then you may go through the expiration and past the 2029 drop dead date and no longer be certified. So I encourage you to once we

certified. So I encourage you to once we get this out just be proactive >> start planning ahead. Right.

>> Yes.

>> Okay. Um uh Jessica. Yeah. We're not

sending out the the PowerPoint but we are sending out the recording. She was

asking about just the PowerPoint. the

recording with the PowerPoint.

Uh, any other questions? Again, the Q&A tab on the right. Um, oh, here's a question from Milos. If our certificate

is valid until June 2027, will we be able to certify for ISO 901 2015 or for the 2026?

that is going to be like this something that will work out with you because you're right in that middle of that time frame which we have to make sure you have one cycle to upgrade.

>> So if you get reertified in 2027, you have you have the option to go to 215 because you have 2028 and 2029

to upgrade from.

If you think about that because you will your certificate will be valid from whatever your date is. But if in that

recycle when you resertify in June 2027 that certificate will have the September 30th 2029 as the expiration date. We

cannot we cannot certify a company to a standard that will be expired. And if

you're familiar with previous revisions, that's how we've done it. So,

>> okay, that makes sense. Any other final questions? Um, looks like we've covered

questions? Um, looks like we've covered all the questions. If you have any final questions on the right, the Q&A tab or unmute and put your video.

If not, uh, we're coming up on the top of the hour. So, thank you, Chuck, Mike, and Claudio for your time today. Oh,

maybe we did have one more question.

Wait one minute. Um, is GDPR mentioned in the new ISO 9012026 QM standard? And are companies that only

QM standard? And are companies that only perform businesses within the United States exempt from GDPR?

And this this will be our last question.

>> Yeah. No, there isn't is not a reference to GDPR. So, in this case, there is no

to GDPR. So, in this case, there is no exemption.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. So, it doesn't doesn't apply.

Okay.

>> Well, thank you so much. It was great.

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