Jensen Huang, Founder and CEO of NVIDIA
By Stanford Graduate School of Business
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Your Past is Your Reputation**: Jensen Huang believes you can't run away from your past, so cultivate a good one. He attributes his early success in securing funding to his reputation as a diligent worker, even as a dishwasher at Denny's. [06:05], [06:23] - **NVIDIA's Strategy: Create Markets**: NVIDIA's core strategy is to create both technology and the markets for it. This was evident in their early bet on 3D graphics for video games, a "0 billion" market at the time, relying on a 14-year-old CTO at Electronic Arts. [09:53], [08:49] - **Reinvent from First Principles**: When faced with new challenges, Jensen advocates going back to first principles and asking "how hard can it be?" rather than incremental improvement. This approach led NVIDIA to reinvent 3D graphics based on an OpenGL manual. [13:56], [12:07] - **Conviction in Non-Consensus Bets**: NVIDIA sustained investment in future markets for over a decade, driven by core beliefs and "early indicators of future success" (EIOFS), not immediate financial returns. This allowed them to make non-consensus bets like deep learning. [18:51], [20:31] - **Flat Org for Employee Empowerment**: Jensen designs NVIDIA as a flat organization with many direct reports to foster transparency and empower employees. He believes information should not be the source of power, and leaders should create conditions for employees to do their life's work. [33:33], [34:40] - **AI Shifts Computing to Generative**: Generative AI fundamentally changes computing from retrieval-based to highly generative, enabling software to understand meaning and translate between modalities. This will disrupt every layer of computing and how we write software. [37:04], [40:10]
Topics Covered
- NVIDIA's Founding Mission: Solving Problems General Computing Can't
- NVIDIA's Risky Bet: 3D Graphics for a $0 Billion Market
- NVIDIA's Dual Mission: Invent Technology and Build New Markets
- AI Safety: The Need for Physics, Guardrails, and Cybersecurity
- AI Regulation: Specificity Over Super Regulations
Full Transcript
[MUSIC]
Jensen, this is such an honor,
thank you for being here.
>> I'm delighted to be
here, thank you.
>> In honor of your
return to Stanford,
I decided we'd start talking about
the time when you first left.
You joined LSI Logic, and that was
one of the most exciting companies
at the time, you were building
a phenomenal reputation with some
of the biggest names in tech.
And yet you decided to leave to
become a founder,
what motivated you?
>> Chris and Curtis.
Chris and Curtis,
I was an engineer at LSI Logic and
Chris and Curtis were at Sun.
And I was working with some of
the brightest minds in computer
science at the time, of all time,
including Andy Bechtolsheim and
others, building workstations, and
graphics workstations, and so
on and so forth.
And Chris and Curtis said one day
that they'd like to leave Sun, and
they've like me to go figure out
what they're going to go leave for.
And I had a great job, but they
they insisted that I figure out
with them how to build a company.
And so we hung out at Denny's
whenever they dropped by, which is,
by the way, my alma mater,
my first company.
My first job before CEO was
a dishwasher, and
I did that very well.
>> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] >> And so
anyways, we got together.
And it was during
the microprocessor revolution,
this is 1993 and
1992 when we were getting together.
The PC revolution was just getting
going, Windows 95, obviously
which is the revolutionary version
of Windows, didn't even come to
the market yet, and
Pentium wasn't even announced yet.
And this is all right before the PC
revolution, and it was pretty clear
that the microprocessor was going
to be very important.
And we thought why don't we build
a company to go solve problems that
a normal computer that is powered
by general purpose computing can't?
And so that became the company's
mission, to go build a computer,
the type of computers and
solve problems that normal
computers can't, and
to this day we're focused on that.
And if you look at all the problems
in the markets that we opened up as
a result,
it's things like computational drug
design, weather simulation,
materials design.
These are all things that we're
really, really proud of.
Robotics, self-driving cars,
autonomous software we call
artificial intelligence.
And then of course we drove
the technology so hard that
eventually the computational cost
went to approximately zero.
And it enabled a whole new way of
developing software,
where the computer wrote
the software itself, artificial
intelligence as we know it today.
And so that was the journey.
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you all for coming.
>> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] >> Well these
applications are on all of our
minds today.
But back then the CEO of LSI Logic
convinced his biggest investor, Don
Valentine, to meet with you, he's
obviously the founder of Sequoia.
Now I can see a lot of
founders here edging forward in
anticipation.
But how did you convince the most
sought-after investor in
Silicon Valley to invest in a team
of first-time founders building
a new product for
a market that doesn't even exist?
>> I didn't know how
to write a business plan, and so
I went to a bookstore, and
back then there were bookstores.
And in the business book section,
there was this book and
it was written by somebody I knew,
Gordon Bell.
And this book,
I should go find it again,
but it's a very large book.
And the book says how to write
a business plan, and that was
a highly specific title for
a very niche market, and
it seems like he wrote it for like
14 people and I was one of them.
And so I bought the book, I should
have known right away that that was
a bad idea because Gordon is super,
super smart.
And super smart people have a lot
to say, and I'm pretty sure Gordon
wants to teach me how to write
a business plan completely.
And so I picked up this book,
it's like 450 pages long,
well I never got through it,
not even close.
I flipped through it a few
pages then I go you know what,
by the time I'm done reading this
thing I'll be out of business,
I'll be out of money.
And Lori and I only had about six
months in the bank.
We had already Spencer, and
Madison, and a dog, and so
the five of us had to live off of
whatever money we had in the bank.
And so I didn't have much time,
and so instead of writing
the business plan I just went to
talk to Wilfred Corrigan.
And he called me one day and
said hey, you left the company, you
didn't even tell me what you were
doing, I want you to come back and
explain it to me.
And so I went back and
I explained it to Wilf.
And Wilf at the end of it, he said
I have no idea what you said, and
that's one of the worst elevator
pitches I've ever heard.
>> [LAUGH] >> And
then he picked up the phone, and
he called Don Valentine.
And he called Don, and he says Don,
I'm going to send a kid over,
I want you to give him money, he's
one of the best employees LSI Logic
ever had.
And so the thing I learned is you
can make up a great interview,
you can even have a bad interview.
But you can't run away from
your past, and so have a good past,
try to have a good past.
And in a lot of ways I was serious
when I said I was a good
dishwasher, I was probably Denny's'
best dishwasher.
>> [LAUGH] >> I planned my work, I
was organized, I was mise en place.
And then I washed the living
daylights out of the dishes.
And then they promoted me to
busboy.
I was certain I'm the best
busboy Denny's ever had, I never
left the station empty handed,
I never came back empty handed,
I was very efficient.
And so anyways eventually I
became a CEO, I'm still
working on being a good CEO.
>> You talk about being the best,
you needed to be the best among
89 other companies that were funded
after you to build the same thing.
And then with six
to nine months of runway left,
you realized that the initial
vision was just not going to work.
How did you decide what to do next
to save the company when the cards
were so stacked against you?
>> Well we started this company for
accelerated computing, and
the question is what is it for,
what's the killer app?
And that came our first great
decision and
this is what Sequoia funded.
The first great
decision was the first killer
app was going to be 3D graphics.
And the technology was going to be
3D graphics, and the application
was going to be video games.
At the time 3D graphics was
impossible to make cheap,
it was million dollar image
generators from Silicon Graphics.
And so it was a million dollars And
it's hard to make cheap.
And the video game market was $0
billion.
So you had this incredible
technology that's hard to
commoditize and commercialize,
and then you have this market that
doesn't exist.
That intersection was
the founding of our company.
And I still remember when,
at the end of my presentation,
Don was still kind of, one of
the things he said to me, which
made a lot of sense back then,
it makes a lot of sense today,
he says, startups don't invest in
startups, or startups don't partner
with startups.
And his point Is that in order for
NVIDIA to succeed,
we needed another startup to
succeed, and that other startup was
Electronic Arts.
And then on the way out,
he reminded me that Electronic
Arts' CTO is 14 years old and had
to be driven to work by his mom.
>> [LAUGH] >> And
he just wanted to remind me that
that's who I'm relying on.
>> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] And
then after that he said if you lose
my money, I'll kill you.
And that was- >> [LAUGH]
>> That was kind of my memories of
that first meeting.
But nonetheless,
we created something,
we went on the next several years
to go create the market,
create the gaining market for PCs.
And it took a long time to do so,
we're still doing it today.
We realized that not only do you
have to create the technology and
invent a new way of doing computer
graphics so that what was $1
million is now $300, $400,
$500 that fits in a computer.
And you have to
go create this new market.
So we had to create technology,
create markets.
The idea that a company would
create technology, create markets,
defines NVIDIA today.
Almost everything we do,
we create technology,
we create markets.
That's the reason why people say,
people call it a stack,
an ecosystem, words like that, but
that's basically it.
At the core, for 30 years,
what Nvidia realized we had to do
is in order to create
the conditions by which somebody
could buy our products, we had
to go invent this new market.
And it's the reason why we're early
in autonomous driving.
It was the reason why we're early
in deep learning.
It was a reason why we're early in
just about all these things,
including computational
drug design and discovery,
all these different areas we're
trying to create the market while
we're creating the technology.
And then we got going, and then
Microsoft introduced a standard
called Direct3D, and that spawned
off hundreds of companies.
And we found ourselves,
a couple years later, competing
with just about everybody.
And the thing that we invented,
the company, the technology we
invented 3D graphics with,
consumerized 3D with, turns out to
be incompatible with Direct3D.
So we started this company,
we had this 3D graphics thing,
million dollar thing, we're trying
to make it consumerized, and so
we invented all this technology.
And then shortly after it became
incompatible.
And so we had to reset the company,
or go out of business.
But we didn't know how to build
it the way that Microsoft had
defined it.
And I remember a meeting on
a weekend, and the conversation
was, we now have 89 competitors.
I understand that the way we do
it is not right, but we don't know
how to do it the right way.
And thankfully,
there was another bookstore.
>> [LAUGH] >> And the bookstore
is called Fry's Electronics,
I don't know if it's still here.
And so I think I drove Madison, my
daughter, on the weekend to Fry's,
and it was sitting right there,
the OpenGL manual, which would
defined how Silicon Graphics did
computer graphics.
And so it was it was right there,
it was like $68 a book.
And so I had a couple hundred
dollars, I bought three books,
I took it back to the office and
I said, guys, I found it,
our future, and I handed out,
I had three versions of it.
Handed it out,
had a big nice centerfold.
The centerfold is the OpenGL
pipeline which
is the computer graphics pipeline.
And I handed it to the same
geniuses that I founded the company
with.
And we implemented the OpenGL
pipeline like nobody had ever
implemented the OpenGL pipeline,
and we built something the world
never seen.
And so
a lot of lessons are right there.
That moment in time for our company
gave us so much confidence.
And the reason for that is you can
succeed in doing something,
inventing a future, even if you
were not informed about it at all.
And it's kind of my attitude about
everything now.
When somebody tells me about
something and I've never heard of
it before, or if I've heard of it,
don't understand how it works at
all, my first thought is always,
how hard can it be?
And it's probably just a textbook
away.
You're probably one archive paper
away from figuring this out.
And so
I spent a lot of time reading
archive papers, and it's true.
Now, of course, you can't learn how
somebody else does something and
do it exactly the same way and
hope to have a different outcome.
But you could learn how something
can be done, and then go back to
first principles and ask yourself,
given the conditions today,
given my motivation,
given the instruments, the tools,
given how things have changed,
how would I redo this?
How would I
reinvent this whole thing?
How would I build a car today?
Would I build it incrementally from
1950s and 1900s?
How would I build a computer today?
How would I write software today?
Does that make sense?
And so I go back to first
principles all the time,
even in the company today and
just reset ourselves,
because the world has changed.
And the way we wrote software in
the past was monolithic and
it's designed for supercomputers,
but now it's disaggregated, so
on and so forth.
And how we think about
software today,
how we think about computers today,
just always cause your company,
always cause yourself to go back to
first principles, and it creates
lots and lots of opportunities.
>> Yeah, the way you applied this
technology turns to
be revolutionary.
You get all the momentum that you
need to IPO and then some more,
because you grow your revenue nine
times in the next four years.
But in the middle of all of
this success,
you decide to pivot a little bit
the focus of innovation happening
at NVIDIA based on a phone call you
have with this chemistry professor.
Can you tell us about that phone
call and
how you connected the dots from
what you heard to where you went?
>> I remember at the core of
the company was pioneering a new
way of doing computing.
Computer graphics
was the first application.
But we always knew that there would
be other applications.
And so image processing came,
particle physics came, fluids came,
so on and so forth.
All kinds of interesting things
that we wanted to do.
We made the processor more
programmable so that
we could express more algorithms,
if you will.
And then one day,
we invented programmable shaders,
which made all forms of imaging and
computer graphics programmable,
that was a great breakthrough, so
we invented that.
On On top of that we tried to
look for ways to express more
sophisticated algorithms that could
be computed on our processor which
is very different than a CPU.
And so we created this thing called
CG, and so I think it was 2003 or
so, C for GPUs.
It predated CUDA by about three
years.
The same person who wrote the
textbook that saved the company,
Mark Hilgard, wrote that textbook.
And so CG was super cool,
we wrote textbooks about it.
We started teaching people how to
use it, we developed Tools and
such, and then several
researchers discovered it.
Many of the researchers here,
students here at Stanford,
was using it.
Many of the engineers that then
became engineers at NVIDIA were
playing with it.
A doctor, a couple of doctors at
Mass General picked it up and
used it for CT reconstruction.
So I flew out and saw them and
said, what are you guys doing with
this thing?
And they told me about that.
And then a computational
quantum chemist used it to
express his algorithms.
And so I realized that there's some
evidence that people might want to
use this.
And it gave it gave us gave us
incrementally more confidence
that we ought to go do this.
That this field, this form of
computing could solve problems that
normal computers really can't and
reinforced our belief and
kept us going.
>> Every time you heard something
new, you really savored that
surprise and
that seems to be a theme throughout
your leadership at NVIDIA.
It feels like you make these bets
so far in advance of technology
inflections that when the apple
finally falls from the tree, you're
standing right there in your black
leather jacket waiting to catch it.
>> [LAUGH] >> How do you find
the connection?
>> It always seems like
a diving catch.
>> [LAUGH] >> Always does seem
like a diving catch.
You do things based on core
beliefs.
We deeply believe that we
could create a computer that
solves problems, normal processing
can't do and that there
are limits to what a CPU can do.
There are limits to what general
purpose computing can do, and
then there are interesting problems
that we can go solve.
The question,
the question is always, are those
interesting problems only, or can
they also be interesting markets?
Because if they're not interesting
markets, it's not sustainable.
And NVIDIA went through about
a decade where we were
investing in this future.
And the markets didn't exist.
There was only one market
at the time, was computer graphics.
For 10,
15 years the markets that fuels
NVIDIA today just didn't exist.
And so how do you continue with all
of the people around you.
Our company,
NVIDIA's management team and
all of the amazing engineers.
They're creating this
future with me.
All of your shareholders,
your board of directors,
all your partners, you're
taking everybody with you and
there's no evidence of a market.
That is really, really challenging.
The fact that the technology can
solve problems and the fact that
you have research papers that
are used, that are made possible
because of it are interesting, but
you're always looking for
that market.
But nonetheless,
before a market exists,
you still need early indicators of
future success.
We have this phrase in the company,
there's a phrase called
key performance indicators.
Unfortunately, KPIs are hard to
understand.
I find KPIs hard to understand.
What's a good KPI?
A lot of people, when we look for
KPIs, you go gross margins.
That's not a KPI, that's a result.
You're looking for something that's
an early indicators of future
positive result, okay,
and as early as possible.
And the reason for
that is because you want that early
sign that you're going in the right
direction.
And so we have this phrase that's
called E-O-I-F-S,
early indicators, E-I-O-F-S,
early indicators of future success.
And it helps people because I was
using it all the time to give
the company hope that hey, look,
we solve this problem.
We solve that problem,
we solve this problem.
The markets didn't exist, but
there were important problems and
that's what the company is
about to solve these problems.
We want to be sustainable.
And, therefore, the markets have to
exist at some point.
But you want to decouple the result
from evidence that you're doing
the right thing, okay?
And so that's how you kind of solve
this problem of investing into
something that's very, very far
away and having the conviction to
stay on the road is to find as
early as possible the indicators
that you're doing the right things.
And so start with a core belief.
Unless something changes your mind,
you continue to believe in it and
look for
early indicators of future success.
>> What are some of those early
indicators that have been used by
Product Teams at NVIDIA?
>> All kinds.
I saw a paper,
long before I saw the paper I met
some people that needed my help on
this thing called deep learning.
At that time I didn't even know
what deep learning was.
And they needed us to create
a domain specific language so that
all of their algorithms could be
expressed easily on our processors.
And we created this thing called
cuDNN, and it's essentially the SQL
in storage computing.
This is neural network computing.
And we created a language, if you
will, domain-specific language for
them, kind of like the OpenGL of
deep learning.
And so they needed us to do that so
that they could express
their mathematics.
And they didn't understand CUDA,
but they understood their
deep learning.
And so we created this thing in
the middle for them.
And the reason why we
did it was because even
though there were zero,
these researchers had no money, and
this is kind of one of the great
skills of our company, that
you're willing to do something,
even though the financial returns
are completely non-existent or
may be very, very far out even if
you believed in it.
We ask ourselves,
is this worthy work to do?
Does this advance a field of
science somewhere that matters?
Notice, this is something that I've
been talking about since
the very beginning of time.
We find inspiration not from
the size of a market, but
from the importance of the work.
Because the importance of
the work is the early
indicators of a future market.
And nobody has to do a business
case on it.
Nobody has to show me a P&L,
nobody has to show me a financial
forecast.
The only question is,
is this important work?
And if we didn't do it,
would it happen without us?
Now, if we didn't do something, and
something could happen without us,
it gives me tremendous joy,
actually.
And the reason for that is,
could you imagine,
the world got better.
You didn't have to lift a finger.
That's the definition of Ultimate
laziness, and in a lot of ways,
you want that habit, and
the reason for that is this.
You want the company to be lazy
about doing things that other
people always do, can do.
If somebody else can do it,
let them do it.
We should go select the things that
if we didn't do it,
the world would fall apart.
You have to convince yourself
of that.
That if I don't do this,
it won't get done.
And if that work is hard and
that work is impactful and
important, then it gives you
a sense of purpose.
Does it make sense?
And so our company has been
selecting these projects.
Deep learning was just one of them,
and the first indicator of
the success of that was this fuzzy
cat that Andrew Ng came up with.
And then Alex Kruszewski detected
cats, not all the time, but
successfully enough that it was,
this might take us somewhere.
And we reasoned about the structure
of deep learning, and
we're computer scientists and
we understand how things work, and
so we convinced ourselves this
could change everything.
And anyhow, but that's an example.
>> So these selections that you've
made, they've paid huge dividends,
both literally and figuratively.
But you've had to steer the company
through some very challenging
times, like when it lost 80% of its
market cap amid the financial
crisis because what Wall Street
didn't believe in your bet on ML.
In times like these,
how do you steer the company and
keep the employees motivated at
the task at hand?
>> My reaction during that time is
the same reaction I had about
this week.
Earlier today,
you asked me about this week.
My pulse was exactly the same.
This week is no different than last
week or the week before that.
And so the opposite of that, when
you drop 80%, don't get me wrong,
when your share price drops 80%,
it's a little embarrassing, okay?
And you just want to wear a t-shirt
that says, it wasn't my fault.
>> [LAUGH] >> But
even more than that, you just don't
want to get out of your bed,
you don't want to leave the house,
all of that is true,
all of that is true.
But then you go back to just doing
your job, woke up at the same time,
prioritize my day in the same way.
I go back to what do I believe,
you gotta always gut-check back to
the core.
What do you believe?
What are the most important things?
And just check them off.
Sometimes it's helpful,
the family loves me, okay, check,
double-check right?
And so you just gotta check it off
and you go back to your core, and
then go back to work, and
then every conversations go back to
the core.
Keep the company focused
back on the core.
Do you believe in it,
did something change?
The stock price changed, but
did something else change?
Did physics change,
did gravity change?
Did all of the things that we
assumed that we believed that led
to our decision,
did any of those things change?
Because if those things change,
you've gotta change everything.
But if none of those things change,
you change nothing, keep on going,
that`s how you do it.
>> In speaking with your employees,
they say that you- >> I try to
avoid the public.
>> [LAUGH] In speaking with
your employees,
they've said that your leadership-
>> Including the employees.
>> [LAUGH] >> I'm just kidding.
>> [LAUGH] No, the lead leaders
have to be seen, unfortunately,
that's the hard part.
I was an electrical engineering
student and I was quite young when
I went to school.
When I went to college,
I was still 16 years old and so
I was young when I did everything.
And so I was a bit of an introvert,
I'm shy,
I don't enjoy public speaking.
I'm delighted to be here, I'm not
suggesting- >> [LAUGH] >> But it's
not something that I do naturally.
And so when things are challenging,
it's not easy to be in front of
precisely the people that you
care most about.
And the reason for
that is because could you
imagine a company meeting,
our stock prices dropped by 80%?
And the most important thing I have
to do as the CEO is this,
to come and face you, explain it.
And partly, you're not sure why,
partly, you're not sure how long,
how bad,
you just don't know these things.
But you still gotta explain it,
face all these people,
and you know what they're thinking.
Some of them are probably thinking
we're doomed.
Some people are probably thinking
you're an idiot, and
some people are probably thinking
something else.
And so, there are a lot of
things that people are thinking and
you know that they're thinking
those things, but you still have to
get in front of them and
do the hard work.
>> You may be thinking of those
things, but yet, not a single
person of your leadership team left
during times like this.
And in fact- >> They're
unemployable.
>> [LAUGH] >> That's what I keep
reminding them.
>> [LAUGH] >> I'm just kidding,
I'm surrounded by geniuses.
I'm surrounded by geniuses, yeah,
other geniuses, unbelievable.
Nvidia is well known to have
singularly the best management team
on the planet.
This is the deepest technology
management team the world's
ever seen.
I'm surrounded by a whole bunch
of them, and they're just geniuses.
Business teams, marketing teams,
sales teams, just incredible.
Engineering teams, research teams,
unbelievable.
>> Your employees say that your
leadership style is very engaged,
you have 50 direct reports.
You encourage people across all
parts of the organization to send
you the top five things on their
mind, and you constantly remind
people that no task is beneath you.
Can you tell us why you
purposefully designed such a flat
organization, and how should we be
thinking about our organizations
that we design in the future?
>> To me, no task is beneath me
because, remember, I used to be
a dishwasher, and I mean that, and
I used to clean toilets.
I mean, I cleaned a lot of toilets,
I've have cleaned more toilets than
all of you combined.
>> [LAUGH] >> And some of them,
you just can't unsee.
>> [LAUGH]
>> I don't know what to tell you,
that's life, and so you can't show
me a task that's beneath me.
Now, I'm not doing it only because
of whether it's beneath me or
not beneath me.
If you send me something and
you want my input on it and
I can be of service to you, and
in my review of it, share with you
how I reasoned through it,
I've made a contribution to you.
I've made it possible for you to
see how I reason through something,
and by reasoning, as you know,
how someone reasons
through something empowers you.
You go, my gosh, that's how you
reason through something like this.
It's not as complicated
as it seems.
This is how you reason through
something that's super ambiguous.
This is how you reason through
something that's incalculable.
This is how you reason through
something that seems to be very
scary, this is how you see,
do you understand?
And so, I show people how to reason
through things all the time,
strategy things,
how to Forecast something,
how to break a problem down.
And you're empowering people all
over the place.
And so that's how I see it.
If you send me something you want
me to help review it,
I'll do my best.
And I'll show you how I would
do it.
In the process of doing that,
of course I learned a lot from you.
Is that right?
You gave me a seed of a lot of
information, I learned a lot.
And so
I feel rewarded by the process.
It does take a lot of energy
sometimes because in order to add
value to somebody and they're
incredibly smart as a starting
point, and I'm surrounded by
incredibly smart people, you have
to at least get to their plane.
You have to get into their
headspace.
And that's really hard.
That's really hard.
And that takes just an enormous
amount of emotional and
intellectual energy.
And so I feel exhausted after I
work on things like that.
I'm surrounded by a lot of
great people.
A CEO should have the most
direct reports by definition
because the people that
report to the CEO requires
the least amount of management.
It makes no sense to me that
CEOs have so
few people reporting to them.
Except for
one fact that I know to be true.
The knowledge, the information of
a CEO is supposedly so valuable,
so secretive.
You can only share it
with two other people, or three.
And their information is so
invaluable so
incredibly secretive, that they can
only share it with a couple more.
Well, I don't believe in
a culture, an environment, where
the information that you possess
is the reason why you have power.
I would like us all to contribute
to the company and our position in
the company should have something
to do with our ability to reason
through complicated things, lead
other people to achieve greatness,
inspire, empower other people,
support other people.
Those are the reasons why
the management team exists in
service of all of the other people
that work in the company,
to create the conditions by which
all of these amazing people,
volunteer to come work for you
instead of all of the amazing high
tech companies around the world.
They elected, they volunteered to
work for you, and so
you should create the conditions
by which they could do their
life's work, which is my mission.
You've probably heard it,
I've said that pretty clearly and
I believe that.
What my job is is very simply to
create the conditions by which you
could do your life's work.
And so how do I do that?
What does that condition look like?
What that condition should result
in a great deal of empowerment,
you can only be empowered
if you understand the circumstance.
Isn't that right?
You have to understand the context
of the situation you're in,
in order for you to come up with
great ideas.
And so I have to create
a circumstance where you understand
the context, which means you have
to be informed.
And the best way to be informed is
for there to be as little layers of
information mutilation, right?
Between us.
And so that's the reason why it's
very often that I'm reasoning
through things,
like in an audience like this.
I say, first of all,
this is the beginning facts.
These are the data that we have,
this is how I would reason
through it.
These are some of the assumptions,
these are some of the unknowns,
these are some of the knowns.
And so you reason through it, and
now you've created an organization
that's highly empowered.
NVIDIA is 30,000 people,
we're the smallest large company in
the world.
We're a tiny little company, but
every employee is so empowered and
they're making smart decisions on
my behalf every single day.
And the reason for that is because
they understand my condition,
I'm very transparent with people.
And I believe that I can trust you
with the information.
Oftentimes the information is hard
to hear, and
the situations are complicated, but
I trust that you can handle it.
A lot of people hear me say,
you're adults here,
you can handle this.
Sometimes they're not
really adults.
They just graduated.
I'm just kidding.
[LAUGH] I know that when I first
graduated, I was barely an adult.
But I was fortunate that I was
trusted with important information.
So I want to do that.
I want to create the conditions for
people to do that.
>> I have I do want to now address
the topic that is
on everybody's mind, AI.
Last week, you said that generative
AI and accelerated computing
have hit the tipping point.
So as this technology becomes
more mainstream,
what are the applications that you
personally are most excited about?
>> Well, you have to go back to
first principles and ask yourself,
what is generative AI?
What happened?
What happened was we now have
the ability to have software that
can understand something.
First of all,
we digitized everything.
That was, for example,
gene sequencing,
you digitize genes.
But what does it mean?
That sequence of genes,
what does it mean?
We've digitized amino acids.
But what does it mean?
And so we now have the ability,
we digitize words,
we digitize sounds,
we digitize images and videos,
we digitize a lot of things.
But what does it mean?
We now have the ability through
stunning a lot of data.
And from the patterns and
relationships we we now understand
what they mean.
Not only do we understand what they
mean, we can translate between them
because we learn about the meaning
of these things in the same world.
We didn't learn about them
separately.
So we we learned about speech and
words and paragraphs and
vocabulary in the same context.
And so we found correlations
between them and they're all
registered, if you will,
registered to each other.
And so now, not only do we
understand the modality,
the meaning of each modality,
we can understand how
to translate between them.
And so for obvious things, you
could caption the video to text,
that's captioning, text to images,
mid-journey text-to-text ChatGPT
amazing things.
And so
we now know that we understand
meaning and we can translate.
The translation of something is
generation of information, and
all of a sudden, you have to take
a step back and ask yourself, what
is the implication in every single
layer of everything that we do?
And so I'm exercising
in front of you.
I'm reasoning in front of you the
same thing I did a 15 years ago,
when I first saw AlexNet some 13,
14 years ago, I guess,
how I reasoned through it.
What did I see?
How interesting?
What can it do?
Very cool.
But then, most importantly,
what does it mean?
What does it mean?
What does it mean to
every single layer of computing?
Because we're in the world of
computing.
And so what it means is that that
the way that we process information
fundamentally will be different
in the future.
That's when a video builds,
chips and systems.
The way we write software will be
fundamentally different in
the future.
The type of software will be
able to write in the future will be
different, new applications.
And then also,
the processing of those
applications will be different.
What was historically
a retrieval-based model
where information was pre-recorded,
if you will, almost.
We wrote the text, pre-recorded,
and we retrieved it based on some
recommender system algorithm.
In the future,
some seed of information will be,
Be the starting point.
We call them prompts,
as you guys know, and
then we generate the rest of it.
And so the future of computing will
be highly generated.
Well, let me give you an example of
what's happening.
For example, we're having
a conversation right now,
very little of the information
I'm conveying to you is retrieved,
most of it is generated.
It's called intelligence.
And so in the future,
we're going to have a lot more
generative, our computers will
perform in that way.
It's going to be highly generative,
instead of highly retrieval-based.
Then you go back and
you're going to ask yourself, now,
for entrepreneurs,
you've gotta ask yourself,
what industries will be disrupted,
therefore?
Will we think
about networking the same way?
Will we think about storage the
same way? Would we be abusive of
Internet traffic as we are today?
Probably not, notice we're having
a conversation right now, and I'm
to get in my car every question.
So we don't have to be as abusive
of transformation, information,
transporting, as we used to.
What's going to be more?
What's going to be less?
What kind of applications, etc?
So you can go through the entire
industrial spread and ask yourself,
what's going to get disrupted?
What's going to get big different?
What's going to get nude, so on so
forth?
And that reasoning
starts from what is happening.
What is generative AI?
Foundationally, what is happening?
Go back to first principles with
all things.
There was something I was going to
tell you about organization,
you asked the question and
I forgot to answer it.
The way you create an organization,
by the way, someday, don't worry
about how other companies or
charts look,
you start from first principles.
Remember what
an organization is designed to do.
The organizations of the past,
where there's a king, CEO, and then
you have all the royal subjects,
the royal court, and
then eased out.
And then you
keep working your way down,
eventually, there are employees.
But the reason why it was designed
that way is because they wanted
the employees to have as little
information as possible,
because their fundamental purpose
of the soldiers is to die in
the field of battle.
To die without asking questions,
you guys know this.
I only have 30,000 employees,
I would like none of them to die.
[LAUGH] I would like them to
question everything.
Does it make sense?
And so the way you organize
in the past and the way you
organize today is very different.
Second, the question is what is in
Nvidia build?
An organization is designed so
that we could build whatever it is
we build better.
And so we all build
different things,
why are we organized the same way?
Why would this organizational
machinery be exactly the same
irrespective of what you build?
It doesn't make any sense.
You build computers,
you're organize this way.
You build health care services,
you're built exactly the same way.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
And so you got to go back to first
principles, just ask yourself,
what kind of machinery?
What is the input?
What is the output?
What are the properties of this
environment?
What is the forest that this animal
has to live in?
What is characteristics?
Is it stable?
Most of the time, you're trying to
squeeze out the last drop of water.
Or is it changing all the time,
being attacked by everybody?
You're the CEO, your job is to
architect this company.
That's my first job,
to create the conditions by which
you can do your life's work, and
the architecture has to be right.
And so you have to go back to first
principles and
think about those things.
And I was fortunate that when I was
29 years old, I had the benefit of
taking a step back and
asking myself, how would I build
this company for the future,
and what would it look like?
And what's the operating system,
which is called culture?
What kind of behavior do we
encourage enhance?
And what do we discourage and
not enhance, so on and so forth,
anyways?
>> I want to save time for
audience questions, but
this year's theme for View from
the Top is Redefining Tomorrow.
And one question we've asked all of
our guests is, Jensen,
as the co-founder and
CEO of Nvidia,
if you were to close your eyes and
magically change one thing about
tomorrow, what would it be?
>> Were we supposed to think about
this in advance?
>> [LAUGH] >> I'm going to
give you a horrible answer.
I don't know that it's one thing.
Look, there are a lot of things we
don't control.
There are a lot
of things we don't control.
Your job is to make
a unique contribution,
live a life of purpose.
To do something that nobody else in
the world would do or can do to
make a unique contribution.
So that in the event that after
you're done, everybody says,
the world was better because you
were here.
And so I think that to me,
I live my life kind of like this,
I go forward in time and
I look backwards.
So you asked me a question that's
exactly from a computer vision pose
perspective, exactly the opposite
of how I think.
I never looked forward from where
I am, I go forward in time and
look backwards.
And the reason for
that is as easier.
I would look backwards and
kind of read my history,
we did this and we did that way,
and we broke that prom down.
Does that make sense?
And so it's a little bit like how
you guys solve problems.
You figure out what is the end
result that you're looking for, and
you work backwards to achieve it.
And so I imagine Nvidia making
a unique contribution to advancing
the future of computing,
which is the single most important
instrument of all humanity.
Now, it's not about our
self-importance but
this is just what we're good at,
and it's incredibly hard to do.
And we believe we can make
an absolute unique contribution.
It's taken us 31 years to be here,
and we're still just beginning our
journey.
And so this is insanely hard to do.
And when I look backwards,
I believe we're going to be
remembered as a company that
kind of changed everything.
Not because we went out and
changed everything through all
the things that we said, but
because we did this one thing that
was insanely hard to do.
That we're incredibly good at
doing, that we love doing,
we did for a long time.
>> I'm part of the GSB LEAD,
I graduated in 2023.
So my question is, how do you see
your company in the next decade?
What challenges do you see your
company would face and
how you are positioned for that?
>> First of all,
can I just tell you what was going
on through my head?
As you say, what challenges,
the list that flew by my head-
>> [LAUGH] >> Was so
large that I was trying to
figure out what to select.
>> [LAUGH] >> Now, the honest truth
is that when you ask that question,
most of the challenges
that showed up for
me were technical challenges.
And the reason for that is
because that was my morning.
If you were chosen yesterday,
it might have been market creation
challenges.
There are some markets that, gosh,
I just desperately would love
to create.
Can't we just do it already?
But we can't do it alone.
Nvidia's a technology platform
company, we're here in service of
a whole bunch of other companies so
that they could realize,
if you will, Our hopes and
dreams through them.
And so, some of the things
that I would love, I would love for
the world of biology to be at
a point where it's kind of like the
world of chip design 40 years ago.
Computer aided in design, EDA,
that entire industry,
really made possible for us today.
And I believe we're going to make
possible for them tomorrow,
computer-aided drug design,
because we are are able to now
represent genes, and proteins, and
even cells now.
Very, very close to be able to
represent and understand the
meaning of a cell, a combination of
a whole bunch of genes.
What does a cell mean?
It's kind of like,
what does that paragraph mean?
Well, if we can understand a cell
like we can understand a paragraph,
imagine what we could do.
And so, I'm anxious for
that to happen,
kind of excited about that.
There's some that I'm just
excited about that I know we're
around the corner on.
For example,
human-oriented robotics.
They're very, very close,
around the corner.
And the reason for that is because
if you can tokenize and understand
speech, why can't you tokenize and
understand manipulation?
And so these kind of computer
science techniques,
once you figure something out,
you ask yourself, well,
if I do that, why can't I do that?
And so I'm excited about those kind
of things.
And so that challenge is kind
of a happy challenge.
Some of the other challenges of
course are industrial, and
geopolitical and
they're social, but
you've heard all that stuff before.
These are all true,
the social issues in the world, the
geopolitical issues in the world.
Why can't we just get along with
things in the world?
Why do we have to say those kind of
things in the world?
Why do we have to say those things
and amplify them in the world?
Why do we have to judge people so
much in the world?
All those things,
you guys all know that.
I don't have to say those
things over again.
>> My name's Jose, I'm a class with
the 2023 from the GSB.
My question is, are you worried at
all about the pace at which we're
developing AI?
And do you believe that any sort of
regulation might be needed?
Thank you.
>> Yeah, the answer is yes and no.
The greatest breakthrough in modern
AI, of course deep learning, and
it enabled great progress.
But another incredible breakthrough
is something that humans know and
we practice all the time.
And we just invented it for
language models called grounding,
reinforcement learning human
feedback.
I provide reinforcement learning
human feedback every day.
That's my job.
And for the parents in the room,
you're providing reinforcement
learning human feedback all
the time, okay?
Now, we just figured out how to
do that at a systematic level for
artificial intelligence.
There are a whole bunch of other
technology necessary to guard rail,
fine tune, ground.
For example,
how do I generate tokens that obey
the laws of physics?
Right now, things are floating in
space and doing things, and they
don't obey the laws of physics.
That requires technology.
Guard railing requires technology,
fine tuning requires technology,
alignment requires technology,
safety requires technology.
The reason why planes are so safe
is because all of the autopilot
systems are are surrounded by
diversity and redundancy, and
all kinds of different functional
safety, and active safety systems
that were invented.
I need all of that to be invented
much, much faster.
You also know that the border
between security and artificial
intelligence cybersecurity and
artificial intelligence is
going to become blurry and blurry.
We need technology to advance very,
very quickly in the area of
cybersecurity, in order to protect
this from artificial intelligence.
And so
in a lot of ways we need technology
to go faster, a lot faster, okay?
Regulation, there's two types of
regulation.
There's social regulation,
I don't know what to do about that.
But there's product and services
regulation, we know exactly what
to do about that, okay?
So, the FAA, the FDA, the NHTSA,
you name it, all the Fs and
all the Ns, and all the FCCs,
they all have regulations for
products and services that have
particular use cases.
Bar exams and doctors, and so on,
and so forth.
You all have qualification exams,
you all have standards that you
have to reach,
you all have to continuously be
certified accountants, and so
on and so forth.
Whether it's a product or
a service, there are lots and
lots of regulations.
Please do not add a super
regulation that cuts across of it.
The regulator who is regulating
accounting should not be the
regulator that regulates a doctor.
I love accountants, but if I
ever need a open heart surgery,
the fact that they can close books
is interesting but not sufficient.
>> [LAUGH] >> And so
I would like all of those fields
that already have products and
services, to also enhance their
regulations in context of AI, okay?
But I left out this one very big
one, which is the social
implication of AI.
And how do you deal with that?
I don't have great answers for
that but
enough people are talking about it.
But it's important to subdivide all
of this into chunks,
does it make sense?
So that we don't become super
hyper-focused on this one thing,
at the expense of a whole bunch of
routine things that we could
have done.
And as a result, people are getting
killed by cars and planes, and
it doesn't make any sense.
We should make sure that we do
the right things there, okay?
Very practical things.
May I take one more question?
>> Well, we have some rapid fire
questions for you as view
from the [INAUDIBLE] division.
>> Okay. >> [LAUGH] >> I was trying
to avoid that.
>> [LAUGH] >> Okay, all right,
fire away.
>> Okay.
>> Fire away.
>> Well, your first job was
at Denny's, they now have a booth
dedicated to you.
What was your fondest
memory of working there?
>> My second job was AMD,
by the way.
>> [LAUGH] >> Is there a booth
dedicated to me there?
>> [LAUGH] >> I'm just kidding.
>> [LAUGH] >> I loved my job there,
I did, I loved it,
it was a great company, yeah.
>> Yeah, if there were a worldwide
shortage of black leather jackets,
what would we be seeing you
wearing?
>> [LAUGH] >> No, I've got a large
reservoir of black jackets.
>> [LAUGH] >> I'll be the only
person who is not concerned.
>> [LAUGH] You spoke a lot about
textbooks, if you had to write one,
what would it be called?
>> I wouldn't write one.
>> [LAUGH] >> You're asking me
a hypothetical question that has no
possibility of-
>> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] That's fair.
And finally, if you could share
one parting piece of advice to
broadcast across Stanford,
what would it be?
>> It's not a word,
but, Have a core
belief, Gut-check it every day.
Pursue it with all your might,
pursue it for a very long time.
Surround yourself with people you
love, and take them on that ride.
So, that's the story of Nvidia.
>> Jenson,
this last hour has been a treat,
thank you for spending [INAUDIBLE].
>> Thank you very much.
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