Joe Rogan Experience #2429 - Tom Segura
By PowerfulJRE
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Dropped 78lbs from 265**: Tom Segura went from weighing 265 pounds at his fattest to 187 pounds now, losing about 80 pounds, which feels great on his joints and allows him to lift four days a week. [00:37], [00:43] - **Four 50g protein meals daily**: Segura follows a nutrition plan eating four times a day with 50 grams of protein per meal for 200 grams total, plus carb cycling based on workout intensity like full carbs on leg days with sweet potatoes or rice. [01:43], [02:03] - **Morning workouts silence chatter**: Segura prefers first-thing morning workouts including cardio which shuts off internal chatter better than weights, sets his whole day with momentum, calmness, and focus especially needed for writer's room alertness. [05:40], [06:39] - **Cardio extension builds toughness**: Pushing cardio from 45 to 60 minutes feels exponentially harder after fatigue, extending capability is brutally tough but essential as people lacking hard work are out of their minds. [07:07], [07:30] - **Fear stalls midlife scrambling**: Many in their late 40s scramble desperately depressed after wasting years on distractions due to fear of discomfort like gym or writing, unlike focused peers who advanced. [09:49], [10:45] - **Sustainable fitness over obsession**: Segura embraces accessible non-dramatic lifestyle like hour-long training and dialed macros over maniacal extremes good for elite success but bad for family mental health and sustainability. [36:18], [37:04]
Topics Covered
- Carb Cycle Matches Workout Intensity
- Morning Workouts Silence Internal Chatter
- 20 Years Vanish; Train VO2 Max Now
- Fear of Discomfort Derails Careers
Full Transcript
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>> Is that how your croissant croissant?
Bro, those croissants are real [ __ ] bro, aren't they?
>> I was going to eat one bite. This is
what's left.
>> I was like, I'll have a bite.
>> They're so good, man.
>> Too buttery. Well, how can how can a guy lose as much weight as you lost and then open up a [ __ ] bakery? Because I
started with them when I was so fat. It
was perfect. Like I fell in love with that place when I was close to my fattest and I was like, "This is a match made in heaven."
>> How big were you when you were your fattest?
>> The most I ever weighed was 265.
>> Holy [ __ ] Yeah.
>> And what are you now?
>> 187.
>> That's insane.
>> Yeah. So it's like what? 80 lbs.
>> What does that feel like on your joints?
>> Feels great. I feel so much better. I
feel so much better.
>> Of course.
>> I'm lifting four days a week.
>> Wow.
>> Um Yeah. I just I lifted this morning.
>> Do you have a trainer or do you go solo?
No, he meets me there every day or every day that I'm >> Do you do that for accountability?
>> You know, I just realized that I I mean, I've trained enough now where I can I can do a good workout on my own, but I always feel like I it's never as good as when he's there.
>> It It's always, you know what I mean?
Like it's always a little bit harder and I always feel like it's a better workout when he's there.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. He pushes me. Sean,
>> so you've been with him for a while?
>> I've been with him for Yeah. for years.
Um, the other difference, the big difference is that I've been I dialed in not with croissants, but I've dialed in my nutrition a lot more. Like I eat four times a day now and I I'm on top of my macros. You know what I mean? Things
macros. You know what I mean? Things
I've never done before.
>> You Why do you eat four times a day?
>> This nutritionist just gave me this plan and I've I've been just doing it.
>> Interesting.
>> Yeah. So, I eat 50 grams of protein at every at each of those four, you know, four different meals.
>> Okay.
>> So, I end up getting 200 grams. So you you do smaller meals that are lower in calories but high in protein.
>> Yeah. Yep. And then I I also I I carb cycle. So like I know on a like if like
cycle. So like I know on a like if like today was legs, I know that it's it's a more intense workout. I'll do the full portions of these carbs, right? Which
sometimes is sweet potatoes or white rice. But on a day if I'm like if it's a
rice. But on a day if I'm like if it's a rest day or I'm I'm doing like less intense workout, I'll dial back how much of those carbs I eat.
>> H you do you take a pre-workout?
>> I I have a preworkout meal every time.
So like in the morning I get I've been getting up at 5:30. So I I >> What?
>> Yeah.
>> What the [ __ ] are you doing, man?
>> I mean because I've been in the writer's room on my on season two of Bad Thoughts. So, I've been I've been
Thoughts. So, I've been I've been getting up at 5:30 and my pre-workout meal are these like I guess it's like mucili kind of like grains, you know,
with um with some honey, a little bit of almond butter, and then I have uh Greek yogurt with um a scoop of uh whey
protein. So, that's my pre-workout. And
protein. So, that's my pre-workout. And
after that, I go to the gym. And then
during the workout, I sometimes have a like an intraworkout shake. Sometimes I
just Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
>> But I mean, I feel much better doing it that way. I do. And then and then I eat
that way. I do. And then and then I eat again about an hour after that workout.
So that's my second meal.
>> Then a few hours later is 3:00. And then
my fourth one is like around 6:00.
>> So you have your second meal by the time it's like 8:00 a.m.
>> Uh maybe like 9:30. Yeah.
>> That's so crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> What time you go to bed at night?
>> Well, that's that's the key to this whole [ __ ] thing. That's the key to the whole thing is that you go to do this. I got to do this and to do that I
this. I got to do this and to do that I got to do that and to do and to do that I got to get up early and the only way I can get up early is by staying on top of when I go to bed. You know when we met I was going to bed at 3:00 in the morning.
>> Normal stuff.
>> Yeah. And I would get up at like 11.
>> Yeah. Like a normal person.
>> Like a normal person. And then I would say in the last decade a lot of my bedtime kind of shifted to like around midnight and then it shifted
to like a little bit like closer to 11.
In the last few months, like sticking to this plan, I've started to go to bed sometimes at like 10 10:30, which for me is like very early,
>> you know? It's very hard. It was It's the biggest challenge for me has been to get to bed.
>> That's hard for me. That's hard. That
would be hard.
>> But I also I don't think I'm going to be getting up at 5:30 forever.
>> This is just writer room stuff.
>> This is just writer room stuff.
>> Normally, you get up when 8?
>> Uh yeah, between seven and eight. Yeah,
>> that's that's reasonable. That's
reasonable. And I don't have to go to bed at 10:00 to do that.
>> Yeah. When my kids are in school, I get up at 7ish.
And then, yeah, usually between 7 and 7:15, depending on when they have to leave, and then when they're not in school, like right now today, I got up at 8, which is pretty normal.
>> 8 feels good for me.
>> I got I got up around 7:30 today. If I
don't work out first thing in the morning though, it used to be I really used to like working out at night because in jiu-jitsu I'd always like doing at night. Morning classes were tough. Tough to get in there early and
tough. Tough to get in there early and and train and also you don't feel warmed up and you [ __ ] feel like everything's going to get hurt.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh but nighttime I can't work out anymore. I can't do that.
anymore. I can't do that.
>> I've completely changed in this too busy. I used to say, well, I will say
busy. I used to say, well, I will say that like I feel like my strongest between like 11 and 1, like the middle of the day, is when I if you were like draw up an ideal strength time, that's when I feel like I'm like, "Oh, that's
when I'm at my best."
>> Why? Why do you think that is?
>> I think I you're >> you woke up.
>> Yeah. You woke up, you're fired up, you're warmed up, >> and you're ready to go. And I feel like >> a little food.
>> I feel good. But I've pivoted to now really enjoying these first thing in the morning workouts where I feel like my whole day is set when I have those workouts. And I also realize that if I
workouts. And I also realize that if I don't, I feel so much different through that throughout that day.
>> Right. That's a good that's a good factor. One, you get that first big win
factor. One, you get that first big win in the morning. Yeah. You got it done.
You're you got good momentum going. But
also, you're more calm.
>> That's that's the big one. That's the
big one.
>> And focused, right? When we did that sober October thing, we were all doing crazy crazy cardio. One thing you said to me that really rang true is like it totally silences all that internal chatter.
>> Yeah, it does.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. And and I think I think one thing about the writer room is that you know you have to be alert, you have to be focused, right? you can't have all this
focused, right? you can't have all this [ __ ] like the noise going on and you know so it was a great way to show up to the room is like >> you have that win >> you've done something hard and now I'm
ready to work >> yeah for me um it's it's not just a hard workout but generally has to have some cardio in it >> really >> yeah cardio is what really shuts off all the chatter
>> it is different than the weightlifting >> yeah weightlifting is great weightlifting makes you feel better like you feel like energized you feel like oo I feel good. But cardio is like I don't give a [ __ ] Yeah.
>> Like when I when I have a really hard cardio session, it's like I don't give a [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] what's going on. Everything's fine.
on. Everything's fine.
>> I noticed the difference between cuz I was doing 45 minute cardio sessions and when I upped it to an hour, the 15minute difference for me felt like another hour.
>> Like pushing it 15 more minutes was really, really hard.
>> Well, that's when it's hardest. When
you're tired already. Yeah. You know,
when you're extending your cardio capability. That's That's [ __ ] hard,
capability. That's That's [ __ ] hard, man. That's hard.
man. That's hard.
>> It's so important. It's so important to do.
>> Oh, yeah. It's everything. You want to wonder why so many people are out of their [ __ ] minds. That's a big part of it. They don't work hard.
of it. They don't work hard.
>> I got so obsessed with some of these this like these data and metrics about this, you know?
>> Yeah. Just like
>> that becomes a problem.
>> Yeah. Well, I don't mean like that like I have to do, but like the just the the data that people are talking about as people age of like if you're not lifting
and your bone density goes down or like your V2 max like >> learning about that stuff and going like if you don't start thinking about that at a certain age >> one day it will be like so out of your
grasp.
>> I was just having this conversation with Shane Gillis. I was like, "You have to
Shane Gillis. I was like, "You have to realize like 20 years goes by so fast because I'm 20 years older than him."
And I'm like, "20 years ago I like that happened. It was yesterday." Yeah.
happened. It was yesterday." Yeah.
>> And all of a sudden I'm 58 >> and 20 years from now I'm 78. That's
dead.
>> Yeah.
>> Like that's almost dead.
>> Yeah.
>> Like and and you can either be almost dead and look like RFK Jr. or you could be almost dead and look like Trump.
>> Yeah.
>> So kind of same thing. They're in the same neighborhood like >> and you have a choice. Trump's only
seven or eight years older than RFK Jr. >> He doesn't look like it.
>> No.
>> Yeah.
>> And that guy did heroin for 14 [ __ ] years.
>> Who did?
>> RFK Jr. >> He did heroin.
>> Oh yeah. After his dad was assassinated.
>> He was a heroin addict.
>> Yeah.
>> No [ __ ] I didn't.
>> Yeah. When he was young.
>> People give him a hard time about it.
Like, hey yo, his [ __ ] dad got shot in front of him. Yeah.
>> His dad who was running for president got assassinated.
>> Yeah. That's
>> when he was a little kid.
Come on. You wouldn't do heroin. You
have no idea what you would do. And his
uncle got shot in the head in front of the whole world.
>> Yeah. I mean,
>> not in front of the whole world. It
wasn't in front of the whole world until several years later. But
>> he looks incredible.
>> He looks great.
>> Yeah.
>> He did uh 20 chin-ups in a row.
>> I saw that >> at 70 whatever the [ __ ] he is.
>> That's very impressive.
>> That's insane.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Modern science for the win.
>> Yeah. Now you Yeah. I mean Yeah. I think
about it all the time. I I because I think the same way. 20 years goes by real [ __ ] fast. Yeah. It's so fast, dude. Before you know it,
dude. Before you know it, >> that's why like there's guys that like never got going with their life or they got distracted with stupid [ __ ] and they never really like focused on whatever it
is they do, what their career is.
>> And then you see them 20 years later, they're in like their late 40s and they're [ __ ] scrambling and depressed. And
depressed. And >> I'm friends with so many of them, dude.
>> Oh, it's a problem.
>> I'm friends with so many of them. Like
I'm in that age pocket where it's like a lot of my friends are >> in that like >> they never did anything. Yeah. And
they're really they're really scrambling.
>> Yeah. And they're really desperate. And
then they they want help, which is like, hey, I can't [ __ ] hold your hand.
Exactly. You did this to yourself. Like,
you should have paid attention to what we were all doing >> all those years ago.
>> It's unnerving, too, when some of them like I have friends who are like >> you're like, dude, like we're in our 40s. Yeah. And you're you're And the
40s. Yeah. And you're you're And the thing is, the worst part about it is you realize how much of it is dictated by fear. like they're just scared to do
fear. like they're just scared to do things. It's like someone who's scared
things. It's like someone who's scared to step in the gym or something, right?
You're like, you're you're just scared to get your to take that step to do something.
>> Scared to be uncomfortable is what it is.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's the thing. It's like most people are scared to be uncomfortable.
So, they're scared to sit down in front of the computer and write. They don't
write cuz they're scared to to be I don't The writing thing is the weirdest one.
>> Fear of the unknown.
>> Cuz I don't understand why that's even uncomfortable. But it is. I I get it. It
uncomfortable. But it is. I I get it. It
is. I I avoid it sometimes. I come home and I'm like, I really should write, but I could watch YouTube. Yeah. And then
I'll [ __ ] sit in front of the TV. I'm
like, I earned this.
>> Yeah.
>> And then I'll watch YouTube.
>> Anything to not do it. You look for distractions.
>> The nights that I come home and I write though, I always feel way better. I feel
better going to bed and I feel better getting up. I'm like, I did what I was
getting up. I'm like, I did what I was supposed to do. Yay. Yay. Everything's
going good.
>> Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
>> When I just watch some [ __ ] random YouTube video on ancient history.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's like, okay, why am I falling asleep at 2 in the morning and forcing myself to finish this [ __ ] hour and 50minute documentary on Syria?
>> I do it [ __ ] all the time. I'm like,
here's another Murder Doc. I'll just
watch this.
>> I don't watch those.
>> Oh my god. It's all I watch.
>> You know what I found out, too? I was I found in the writer room, and I didn't realize this until I talked it out. We
were talking about >> um you know, like cuz sometimes you're like, "What about this idea?" Right.
Right. And someone will be like, "Well, you know, on that episode of like 30 Rock or something." And I'll be like, "I never saw that." They go, "You never saw 30 Rock?" And I'm like, "No." And then
30 Rock?" And I'm like, "No." And then they go, "Oh, well, you know, like on The Office, I never watched The Office."
They go, "You didn't watch The Office?"
And then I started talking. I was like, "Oh, I've never watched any of these shows." And they're like, "What?" And I
shows." And they're like, "What?" And I go, "Yeah, I guess I just don't like comedy."
comedy." And they're like, "What are you talking about?" I was like, "Dude, I've never
about?" I was like, "Dude, I've never seen The Office, 30 Rock, Sunny, all like the huge comedies of the last 20 years. I've never seen them.
years. I've never seen them.
>> I haven't seen them either."
>> Yeah. Well, so and I'm like, "Well, I go, my rationale, my thinking is not that I don't like comedy. It's that it's like, you know, you I'm on stage all the time. I'm doing comedy. My friends are
time. I'm doing comedy. My friends are comedians. We're talking comedy. When I
comedians. We're talking comedy. When I
get home and I want to watch something, I don't want to watch that. I want to watch something else."
>> I'm exactly That's exactly how I think of it. I want to watch dramas,
of it. I want to watch dramas, thrillers, >> something's interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Stranger Things.
>> Yeah. So, I just end up never They're like, "This is pretty crazy, though.
You're in a room of comedy writers and you've never watched an episode of comedy." And I'm like, "Yeah, I guess
comedy." And I'm like, "Yeah, I guess that is kind of weird."
>> I I watched them when I was on one, you know, I'd watch other sitcoms to see what they were doing differently, you know, cuz it was kind of a new thing for me.
>> Yeah, that makes sense.
>> But, uh, after I was off news radio, I swore off sitcoms, too. And but then I did start watching them, some of them with my family. Uh, one of them I watched that I really used to [ __ ] on
and I was wrong is The Big Bang Theory.
Really [ __ ] good show, man.
>> I mean, it was a massive hit.
>> I was like, how is this stupid show a massive hit? But it was because I had
massive hit? But it was because I had seen clips online that were like retakes that they did without the laugh track.
>> Uhhuh.
>> But if you know, if you ever worked on a sitcom, you know what retakes are.
Retakes are brutal. like you didn't get it right or the writers decided to change something or there's whatever for whatever reason you do a bunch of them after the audience leaves you know so I
saw those without the laugh track and I was like what is this this is not funny this is terrible I'm like what is this like mundane boring [ __ ] drone you to sleep then I watched the show the actual
show itself I was like oh this is a really well-written sitcom >> and it's interesting because the main guy is autistic and he is like totally socially [ __ ] >> yeah And it's funny though. It's But
it's all about nerds. It's like It's a good show. It's a solid show.
good show. It's a solid show.
>> I mean, something that has that something gets that popular like this has to have something.
>> But that's like stuff that I watch with my family. Like there's certain shows
my family. Like there's certain shows that I only watch with my family.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. That's one of You know what just happened with our kids is um they um they they started, you know, they they had like their movies that they always watch and kids, little kids have just a capacity to re-watch the [ __ ] out of
things that you're like, Jesus Christ, >> I watched Frozen like 80 times.
>> Oh my god, so many [ __ ] times we watched these things.
>> We watched Home Alone [ __ ] 145 times, right? Which is I think a lot of people
right? Which is I think a lot of people do. But
do. But >> then all of a sudden we were like, "Oh, here's The Simpsons."
>> And what we did was we started with episode one of the Simpsons. Oh, wow.
>> And what I was so surprised by, I was because I was taken by just how how good the old one, like we're watching like season one, season two, like the really old ones where where everything where it took 18 months to produce an episode.
This is, you know, they had to handraw everything.
>> The the writing and the jokes in them are so good and so funny. And you're I'm watching these little dudes like get the jokes and they're and it's really funny.
I mean, it's really good, but we start from the beginning. How many episodes is the Simpsons still on the air, right?
>> I think so. It's like season [ __ ] 42 or some [ __ ] >> That is so wild. And no one gets old.
>> No, these characters are just cartoons.
>> And now they can do them uh timely because of technology. So now they can like produce it in a week or something.
>> Oh, that's crazy.
>> Yeah, >> that's crazy.
>> Cuz they don't have to hand draw everything.
>> Well, didn't they like farm it all out to [ __ ] >> I think so.
>> South America or some [ __ ] >> They probably I'm sure.
>> Yeah, I think they did. Some Indian. I
think they they taught some Asian people how to how to draw, >> how to do it. And like I mean there's something also that like you appreciate about the old animation that's cool that >> clunky. Yeah.
>> clunky. Yeah.
>> Yeah. It doesn't exist in the but it's still it's so funny.
>> Like the first South Park. The first
South Park was super clunky. Yeah. What
would Barry Pano do?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And then they also embraced that it's supposed to look this certain way, right? Like they that whole thing was
right? Like they that whole thing was like it's it was they embrace that like the look is not like slick, >> right?
>> Yeah.
>> I mean it's also you can get away with so much more when it's not even remotely realistic.
>> Yeah.
>> Like the time that gay teacher stuffed Paris Hilton up his ass.
>> Like how could you do that on any other show? Imagine if you you said we're
show? Imagine if you you said we're going to do um South Park but with CGI and real people. They're like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking about? Kenny's
going to die in every episode violently and everyone's going to laugh."
>> What?
>> No. Yeah.
>> What? His brains splattered all over the concrete. Oh my god, you killed Kenny.
concrete. Oh my god, you killed Kenny.
>> You killed Kenny.
>> What?
>> Yeah, it has to be.
>> No, it has to be fake.
>> Fake. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And it has to be fake kids.
>> Totally.
>> Cuz kids are kind of They bounce off stuff. They get hurt. It's kind of
stuff. They get hurt. It's kind of funny.
>> Yeah, they do.
>> Yeah. They just [ __ ] They don't get hurt as easy. When they get hurt, it's like not that big a deal. They bang into things. Whereas an old person falls in
things. Whereas an old person falls in the bathtub, they break a hip, and they're dead in a year.
>> My youngest like slow falls all the time, and we're like, "What the [ __ ] is going on?" And he's never hurt.
going on?" And he's never hurt.
>> He's practicing.
>> Yeah. He's just like And he tumbles.
>> Yeah. Well, they're [ __ ] made out of like they're they're flexible. They're
all pliable and [ __ ] >> Yeah. The way they even like the way a
>> Yeah. The way they even like the way a kid can sit and you're like, "How are your legs doing that, bro?"
>> After a while, [ __ ] gets stiff.
>> It gets real stiff. Yeah.
>> Do you ever do any yoga?
>> I did. I haven't in a while.
>> Well, remember when we did it? That was
our first challenge. Right.
>> I do. And that was awesome. And then a few like a year or two ago, I I started doing some yoga here and it was so challenging. I was like, "Fuck, this is
challenging. I was like, "Fuck, this is really hard."
really hard." >> Was it the same kind or different?
>> Um, just like No, it wasn't it wasn't a hot yoga. It was just like, you know,
hot yoga. It was just like, you know, you're going through all the positions.
I don't know how to even describe it.
>> Yeah, all the poses. And I was like, man, I was, you know, shaking in in certain poses. And I was it was really
certain poses. And I was it was really challenging and I have not done it in a while. I probably should do it again.
while. I probably should do it again.
Was it the same kind of yoga though or were the poses different?
>> No, the same kind of poses. The same
kind. Yeah. Just not hot.
>> Hot's the way to go.
>> Hot's rad.
>> Yeah, it's harder.
>> It is. I remember I did do a hot yoga here in Austin like in July. I was like, this isn't much different than outside right now. And uh I I remember like
right now. And uh I I remember like feeling so relieved when I saw somebody tap out of the room before me. I was
like, I can't tap out first. Just
watching people. want some guys. I was
like, I got to get I was like, all right, I'm going to get out of here in a minute.
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>> I remember the first time I did it, I was like, I can't believe how hard this is. I can't believe all these little old
is. I can't believe all these little old ladies are walking into this thing with this rolled up foam mat and I'm like, >> you guys think you're working out?
>> Yeah.
>> Meanwhile, they're working out way harder than me.
>> I was literally getting strangled and it was easier. I was going to jiu-jitsu and
was easier. I was going to jiu-jitsu and I was getting [ __ ] arm barred and that was easier. Yeah. Than going and and [ __ ] stretching my feet out with these little old ladies >> and seeing like how these mother like
you'll see somebody who's like physicality is not like that not like they look fit let's say but you're not like holy [ __ ] look at this person >> and the way that they're holding themselves
>> up on their hands and their whole body is sitting on on you know what I mean like their knees are on their elbows and you're like how the [ __ ] are you holding yourself like this?
>> Yeah. And very impressive. It's a weird It's a impressive thing that you only know it's impressive when you try to do it.
>> This is why I have this uh theory that everybody should try things like that jiu-jitsu a boxing class even if you go one time just once, right?
>> To have just so you have an idea of what you don't know, >> right?
>> You know what I mean? Because like every dude thinks he can fight, >> right? you know, and I'm like, I know my
>> right? you know, and I'm like, I know my limits so much in that regard because I've been in classes. I've done classes.
>> So, I I know so much. I'm not an expert, but I know how much I don't know. You
know what I mean? Like, yeah,
>> I've rolled on I've done jiu-jitsu classes. I've done boxing classes, and
classes. I've done boxing classes, and I'm like, "Oh, this these guys can [ __ ] kill me." You know, >> but you don't know that before you do it, >> right?
>> You don't know how hard that [ __ ] is.
>> Yeah.
>> You don't know. I mean, like, boxing is a funny one because people think they're like, "I can throw a punch." Like, you don't even have the fundamentals of of how to throw a punch. You don't even know how to throw a punch technically.
>> Not only that, how many can you throw before you're totally exhausted?
>> Oh, the the exhaustion is is is real crazy.
>> How many you got in your tank? You got
10 punches.
>> A lot of people like throw they throw hay makers and they think they're throwing it. You're like, that's not
throwing it. You're like, that's not even a punch, you Oh, it is if it lands, >> I guess, but it's not like it's definitely not a punch that would would really have that much of an effect on
somebody who knows what they're doing. I
mean, you could probably land that on someone who also doesn't fight.
>> You can land a lot of things on people if they don't know you're going to punch them.
>> Yeah.
>> That's why sucker punches work.
>> Yeah. Whenever I when I used to teach martial arts, one of the first things I would tell people is you have to realize that action is so much faster than reaction. So, the reason why a sucker
reaction. So, the reason why a sucker punch works is because you have no idea that this person is going to do it and then by the time they're doing it, it's too late.
>> It's too late for you.
>> You don't react in time. That's why
people get punched like that. You can't
I'm like, you can't ever let anybody get close enough.
>> You can't ever let anybody that's threatening you get into position where they think like you think that they could hit you and you you don't know what's coming, >> right?
>> Because it can happen too fast.
>> So, that's why you got to you have to have your awareness to uh that somebody approaching you is already a threat or can >> 100%. Yeah. Like remember the time I got
>> 100%. Yeah. Like remember the time I got in that stupid thing on Fear Factor?
>> Yes.
>> With that guy? That was 100% my thought process. Like this guy could punch me in
process. Like this guy could punch me in any second.
>> Yeah. So you have to act.
>> Yeah. I had to grab him. But it was one of those moments where I was like, "All right, this is a very angry person that's already irrational. What's most
irrational?" Sucker punching the host.
>> Yeah.
>> And also, this is like, you got to think of reality TV. What is everyone trying to do? Everyone's trying to go viral.
to do? Everyone's trying to go viral.
They're all trying to have a clip that gets played over and over again. They're
all trying to get everybody to watch the show. So, they're all acting in the most
show. So, they're all acting in the most outrageous way possible.
>> Yeah.
>> I think it's like between that and social media, it's it's been like poison in our civility in our culture. The way
people communicate, the way people view like famous people is totally different now. Cuz you used to be famous because
now. Cuz you used to be famous because you were Amy Winehouse. Like, oh, I love your music. Now it's you're just famous
your music. Now it's you're just famous for whatever the [ __ ] reason. being
famous for just acting a fool. Like just
being a complete [ __ ] >> Yeah. Being some guy who's famous for
>> Yeah. Being some guy who's famous for stealing people's hats.
>> Yeah.
>> Just run up and grab people's hats everywhere. That's That's your TikTok.
everywhere. That's That's your TikTok.
>> Or Yeah. You go up to people and like you whisper in their ear when they're at they're at like a a Home Depot and people go, "Hey."
>> Speaking of which, did you see what Andre Arloski got into it with these [ __ ] influencers? I bet they didn't know who he is.
>> Yes, I did see a clip of that.
>> Yeah, I bet they didn't know who he is.
They started [ __ ] with former UFC heavyweight champion Andre Arlovski.
>> Yeah. Not a good move.
>> He's all, first of all, he's [ __ ] gigantic.
>> Yeah.
>> And he's one of the baddest [ __ ] ever. Like that guy just recently retired from the UFC or was released, I should say. He's not even done fighting. He started fighting.
done fighting. He started fighting.
>> He was he won the UFC title, I think, in 2005.
>> Yeah.
>> That's 20 [ __ ] years ago. And the guy was still beating people that are like elite fighters just a few years ago.
>> And that's who you go pick on.
>> You go pick on that guy.
>> Good luck.
>> I think he beat Travis Brown in like 2016 or 17. Travis Brown was super legit. Real dangerous.
legit. Real dangerous.
>> Yeah, >> Arloski was a bad [ __ ] dude.
>> I went to a a Travis Brown fight once with you.
>> Travis Brown was a bad [ __ ] Travis Brown completely changed the way people look at the clinch because he elbowed so many people into oblivion. If
you got a hold of a single on that guy and your head was right there or a double, anything where you're trying to take him down against the cage and hit your head is right there. That [ __ ] dude boom. Yeah, he we literally called
dude boom. Yeah, he we literally called them Travis Brown elbows >> cuz everybody does it, but Travis Brown did it better than anybody.
>> That and those um those forearm >> shots that people take, you're like, >> "Yeah, it's brutal. It's such a brutal sport." It's It's so crazy.
sport." It's It's so crazy.
>> That is so [ __ ] crazy. Yeah, I would not [ __ ] with somebody. I mean, I don't [ __ ] with anybody, but like if I saw that guy be the last guy I'd be like, "Oh, >> so many people out there in the world now know how to fight." When I was a
kid, almost no one knew how to fight.
There was like wrestlers, never [ __ ] with wrestlers, and there was like, "Oh, the guy, he's Golden Gloves boxer. Oh,
don't [ __ ] with him." Yeah. Like,
everybody knew who you could and couldn't [ __ ] with.
>> Now, everybody knows something. And
kids, they learn just by wa they'll they'll watch a Charles Oliver fight and they'll practice in their [ __ ] living room and next thing you know, they they know how to do a real triangle.
>> Yeah.
>> Like, you can watch a lot of [ __ ] on YouTube videos and learn without even taking classes. When kids are like
taking classes. When kids are like learning, some athletic kids, like a kid that maybe is really good at baseball, really good at soccer or something like that, you can teach him some moves pretty quick and he's he's going to know how to deliver it.
>> My oldest does does it twice a week and he's been he's he's athletic kid. He's
got some proficiency and he keeps moving up, you know, and kill you.
>> Well, he start we also start we [ __ ] around because he's they're two little boys. this dude will immediately like go
boys. this dude will immediately like go just put me in an arm bar. And I'm like, yo. And I'm like, and the only thing
yo. And I'm like, and the only thing that like saves me is that I'm still so much bigger, you know, and and stronger.
But I'm like, >> you might have to start taking classes or he's not going to listen.
>> The clock is ticking.
>> When he's like 16 or 17.
>> Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, that would be a problem. Real problem.
problem. Real problem.
>> Well, that's also a weird problem, too, because all of a sudden you can do things to men. Like I remember thinking that when I was like 16, 16, 17 when I was competing.
>> Yeah.
>> I all of a sudden I could beat men up. I
was like, "This is crazy. This is
>> crazy." Yeah.
>> Yeah. This is weird. All All my life men were terrifying. Like men were Men get
were terrifying. Like men were Men get angry. Men will hit you. You run from
angry. Men will hit you. You run from the men. And now I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ]
the men. And now I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ] this grown ass man up." It was crazy. It
was a crazy transition.
>> I can see his wheels turning, dude.
>> Right. So he's going to know he can do it now. So he's going to want to do it.
it now. So he's going to want to do it.
Come on, Dad.
>> Come on, Dad. Come on, Dad. What are you going to do, Dad? Like, you're [ __ ] grounded. [ __ ] you. I'm not grounded.
grounded. [ __ ] you. I'm not grounded.
I'll choke you out. Like, what?
>> You're in the [ __ ] hallway. You can't
even get away.
>> Yeah.
>> And he's 17 now. He probably weighs a buck 80.
>> And they >> kind of ripped. He's got abs. They get
embarrassed.
>> Oh, yeah. They called us and they're like, "Hey, he's really good." They're
like, "For they're like, "He's he's he's really got a skill at this."
>> Well, jiu-jitsu is athleticism is massive, but also intelligence. It's
hard to be dumb and get really good at jiu-jitsu. He's a smart kid. The other
jiu-jitsu. He's a smart kid. The other
thing that's very different, and I think you see this when you have m when you have more than one, you know, you have two kids or more, >> you start to see that like, oh, some qualities in people's personalities are
innate qualities, right? Like you just especially because, you know, you have your one, you're like, oh, this is what every this is what a kid's like. Then
you're like, oh, the other kid's not like this. They have these other
like this. They have these other qualities right?
>> And one thing about him that you just pick up on by being his parent is he's like he's very competitive. like very
very competitive and so he's intelligent, he's competitive and he's athletic >> and so you go like oh yeah he's he's just very driven, you know, >> well he should probably compete cuz when
you're young, if you learn how to compete when you're young, oh my god, it has so many benefits for the rest of your life because it's so scary and then you overcome it and if you become successful at it, you kind of feel like you could be successful at anything.
>> Yeah.
>> Because you've been successful at something that's scary.
>> Yeah, exactly. He got into >> Get him in tournaments, man. He got into uh running.
>> Oh boy.
>> So like a couple years ago I was getting ready. We were going to do a 5K and I
ready. We were going to do a 5K and I was way out of shape. I was like I got to start running. So the first thing I did is I ran a mile and he tried to run with I mean he was like you know let's say like seven years
old or something. And I ran the mile in like I don't know 930. I was I mean I was dying right? I was like [ __ ] it. Oh
my god. He couldn't quite keep up with me in this one mile run. He's a
seven-year-old kid. This year he ran two miles in 1238.
>> Whoa.
>> So he ran six and six >> cuz he didn't like the fact that he wasn't good at running.
>> He just [ __ ] and he would get up and be like, "I'm going to go train." I'm like, "Okay."
"Okay." >> Oh, Jesus Christ. You got a psycho.
>> Yeah, he he's a psycho.
>> He's a psycho.
>> He's running up hills and [ __ ] And I was he he's like, "Come with me." And so like I have an adult with me. He's just
running up and down this hill over and over and over. Yeah. He's like very But it's self. It's not me going, you got to
it's self. It's not me going, you got to go run, >> right? You know, it's inside his head.
>> right? You know, it's inside his head.
>> It's in his head.
>> Wow. If I was a coach, I'd be like, "Get that kid young. Grab him.
>> Grab him."
>> That's what we want.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> What you want is an intelligent psycho.
>> Mhm.
>> You know, intelligent, driven, hyper competitive psycho.
>> Hyper compet. The other kid, my youngest, will walk up a flight of stairs. He goes, "My legs hurt." Like
stairs. He goes, "My legs hurt." Like
I'm like, "What?" He goes, "I want to go rest." I'm like, "We just walked up a
rest." I'm like, "We just walked up a [ __ ] flight of stairs." He's like, "I know, but my legs are killing me." Like,
it's completely different.
>> It's so funny that that that is such the case. It's such the case. It's It's
case. It's such the case. It's It's
interesting because there is this thought of like what a personality is.
Like, where does it all come from? It's
like a combination of so many different things.
>> It's a combination of nature, nurture, genetics.
>> It's everything. You're right. My
>> It's also being exposed to things that bring that out of you.
>> Yes.
>> You know what I mean? Like imagine if he had never been exposed to the running, never done jiu-jitsu, never done anything. Then what happens to that?
anything. Then what happens to that?
Yeah.
>> The other kid, he's like um >> you could tell he has he has he has like a comedian's mindset >> cuz he's he's a complainer,
>> you know? Like every like funny person complains.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Like the other day I was in the writer room and I ate something. I was like in the writer room but I was my stomach was like [ __ ] me up all day. I was on the toilet. I was like it was like brutal to
toilet. I was like it was like brutal to get through the day.
>> All the macros. I get home and I I he's in my room watching TV and I lay down. I
go, "Hey, can you turn that off cuz like uh I want I want to rest. Like my
stomach is bothering me." And he goes, "Oh, you want to snooze?"
>> How old is he?
>> Seven.
He goes, "You want to snooze?"
>> He goes, "I almost [ __ ] threw up today." And I go, "What?" He goes,
today." And I go, "What?" He goes, "Yeah, my stomach's been I go, Dude, I've been on the toilet for like 3 hours, please." And he goes, "All right,
hours, please." And he goes, "All right, why don't you have your little snooze?
I'll go out here." He's like very animated, you know?
>> It's hilarious.
>> And then he saw me wear a suit.
>> This is insane. He saw me wear a suit.
And I'm like walking out of the house and he goes, "Hey." I go, "What?" He
goes, "Where's my suit?" And I go, "What?"
"What?" And then I'm not kidding you. He goes,
"I look like a [ __ ] asshole."
I go, "What are you talking about?" He
goes, "You're in a suit. I look like an asshole." He goes, "Get me a suit." And
asshole." He goes, "Get me a suit." And
I go, "Oh my god." I go, "You don't need a suit." And he goes, "Yes, I do. Why do
a suit." And he goes, "Yes, I do. Why do
you get to look like that? I look like a [ __ ] asshole."
And I was like, "All right, bro." He's
always, >> you know, I mean, he's always like complaining.
>> That's complain. And it's just funny cuz we >> That would be an an amazing sitcom scene.
>> I know.
>> If you had a kid like that, that would be I look like a [ __ ] [ __ ] That would be an amazing scene.
>> We call him Joe Peshy because he's always talking like that.
He's always bothered, you know, he's always hot and you're like, "This is not a big deal, man." He's like, "Yes, it is."
is." >> That's hilarious.
>> Always dri Yeah. He's just fired up about [ __ ] >> That's hilarious. That's
>> But that's also in him. You know what I mean? It's part of his personality.
mean? It's part of his personality.
>> Yeah.
>> It's weird. It's like kids get something from you, right? They get some genetics and then they kind of get whatever that gift the universe gives.
>> Totally.
>> Whereas like that kid is not like either one of us. Like where'd you come from?
Christina thinks that he she's every time he's like fired up about something and I'm like look at this kid she goes that is you [ __ ] you.
>> I'm like no. And she goes yes.
>> Well you have a little of that in you.
>> Yeah >> you definitely do. I remember one of the thing one of the most impressive things about our sober October thing was you got the flu and so you were out of it for like a couple of days and so the
moment you got back where you felt good you ran like 15 miles >> in a day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
>> bro. We were all going nuts.
>> Yeah, I was cuz I was like, I can't be like dead dead last. You know what I mean? Like I was like, I just can't. I
mean? Like I was like, I just can't. I
was in the gym at the old studio with Ari and Ari uh he's like, can I use your gym? I'm like, of course. He's like,
gym? I'm like, of course. He's like,
after the podcast, I'm going to work out. I got to get my numbers in. And so
out. I got to get my numbers in. And so
I was hanging out with him while he was rowing and he's got a [ __ ] six-pack.
>> Yeah.
>> I was like, this is crazy. Go, Ari, you have a six-pack now. I go, you're ripped. I go, you look great. He's like,
ripped. I go, you look great. He's like,
"Oh thanks."
>> And he was just [ __ ] rowing. He rode
for a full hour, man, with a chest strap on, like racking up his numbers.
>> It was the same voice in his head going, "Don't be dead last."
>> We all We all knew your crazy ass was going to be >> going like totally psycho. So, we were just like, "We can't be dead last of the rest of us."
>> Ari was trying to beat me.
>> Yeah, >> 100%. I know he was.
>> 100%. I know he was.
>> Yeah, but you were like pissing blood.
We were like, "All right, this guy's this guy's a little too crazy." Well, I decided one day to just like take it to to like the I wanted to see like what can I do that was the day I did seven
hours of cardio, >> I think, >> and set off my alarm in my gym for my sweat.
>> Jesus, >> I set off the fire alarm >> from just being so hot.
>> There's a video of it. There's a video on Instagram of the puddles on the ground are the most preposterous thing.
I I sweat puddles.
>> I think your wife too, right? Cuz my was like can't do this anymore.
>> She was like, "What are you doing? Like
you're not spending any time with your family. You're just like so obsessed
family. You're just like so obsessed with this thing.
>> It was like I um I rem.
>> Yeah.
>> That's what it was like for me. It was
like, "Oh, I forgot that guy's in there."
there." >> Yeah.
>> I don't necessarily like that guy.
>> Yeah.
>> He He scares me. It's like I don't like something. Scares me. Not Not being
something. Scares me. Not Not being dramatic. This is what it is
dramatic. This is what it is >> that that could derail your life. So you
could that obsession could take over again with something with anything and then I won't be doing anything but that thing like that's one of the reasons why I like to do a lot of stuff is because I I don't want
>> one obsession >> that yeah I don't want that one >> that brain to focus on it's not good for mental health. It's really good for
mental health. It's really good for success like if you're really going to get >> really good at one thing that's the thing but for overall happiness I don't find that to be appealing. I don't like
that feeling. Like that sober October
that feeling. Like that sober October feeling was kind of crazy.
>> This is kind of why like I feel like I I'm trying to embrace a lifestyle that's not that's accessible but not dramatic.
Like I could go and go I'm going to do, you know, two and a half hours at the gym every day. And I'm sure my results would would show, >> right? I want to look like Iron Man or
>> right? I want to look like Iron Man or whoever. But the my problem is like
whoever. But the my problem is like >> is like it's like not that doesn't feel like I'm going to run out at some point and be like this is unsustainable. So
I'd rather >> it's going to take from your other things.
>> Yeah. Exactly. I got I got to do it where like I'll do an hour and change what you know of training and then try to dial in eating and like that's that's you can keep that.
>> Yes.
>> That's that's sustainable, >> right? Exactly.
>> right? Exactly.
>> Yeah. Um but it's like what are you trying it depends on what you're trying to do. So like we both have families. We
to do. So like we both have families. We
both have a lot, you know, there's a lot of people in our lives. You can't just be a maniac and focus on one thing.
>> 10 hour like Gordon Ryan, that's his Abu Dhabi belt up there.
>> Oh yeah.
>> That guy trains 365 days a year.
>> Yeah.
>> He doesn't take [ __ ] you for Christmas.
[ __ ] you for your birthday.
>> Oh, it's Easteression. [ __ ] you.
>> Well, that's how he became the best of all time. Like if you really want to do
all time. Like if you really want to do something, but but he doesn't have kids.
>> He's not married. He's only, you know, now he's 30, but he did all this when he was in his mid20s.
>> That's also the the age to be that obsessed with something.
>> Exactly. Especially if you want to do this one thing that everybody else is working really hard, too. You got to figure out how to separate yourself. And
it's like if you're running an ultramarathon and you have 200 miles to run and you take time and you're running and you're running at a really good pace, maybe even a faster pace than
other people, but then you take naps.
You take a nap for an hour or two hours or three hours and then you say, "Look, it'll be better this way and then I'll be revived. I'm still really ahead."
be revived. I'm still really ahead."
That guy who's not going to take any naps is going to beat you. Yeah. Because
he's just going to keep running. He's
going to keep running and before you know it, a lot of these ultras, like the guy who wins, they win by like 10 hours.
>> They win by nutty time. Courtney
Dewalter, the lady who was on our podcast once, she ran the Bigfoot 240, I think, and I think she was like eight hours ahead of the second place person.
I kind of don't understand the mentality that the ultra people have. Like I feel like it's dark.
>> Yeah. I'm like I don't get it. How do
you how you actually get there?
>> Well, you you have to be a complete nut and then you have to want to test yourself to the point of almost death because that's what these people are doing. They're running like Gogggins.
doing. They're running like Gogggins.
He ran one of these [ __ ] things, got rabdo. So rabdomiosis was when you you
rabdo. So rabdomiosis was when you you you worked out too hard. Your body can't recover and you start pissing brown real bad. Your kidneys are breaking down. He
bad. Your kidneys are breaking down. He
had to go to the hospital. Went to the hospital, got out of the hospital, completed the race, >> and then he did like a 100 push-ups.
He's [ __ ] like there's he he's like he's getting to the door of death.
>> Yeah.
>> Just the door.
>> And that's how he feels normal.
>> Yeah. He feels alive by like getting his body to and he's 50 by the way.
>> [ __ ] crazy.
>> Yeah, he's a maniac.
>> Did you watch, by the way, did you watch the um Anthony Joshua Jake Paul?
>> I did. Of course I did. Yeah,
>> I would I would have guessed.
>> Yeah, I had to watch it. It's spectacle.
>> Yeah.
>> Um look, that guy did great for someone who's been boxing for like less than a decade.
He has had no real um professional opponents other than Tommy Fury that were legitimate world-class boxers.
>> I don't even remember what happened in the Tommy Fury.
>> He lost a close decision, but it was a good fight. It was a good fight though.
good fight. It was a good fight though.
He's a good boxer. If he wasn't a YouTuber, people would be way more impressed with him. The problem is he was like a famous kid and then no one took him seriously.
>> Yeah.
>> But >> Oh, and then he started too with like more spectacish fights. People were
like, "Oh, this is you're he fought, you know, Nate Robinson, like a basketball player."
player." >> But the thing is, he knocked Nate Robinson knocked him the [ __ ] out. And
it's the way he did it that I was trying to tell people. I'm like, "No, no, no.
That was skillful." So, like there's there's like boxing matches where you see two guys just slugging it out. One
guy lands a punch and yeah, he landed a good punch.
>> What Jake did is he slid back and landed a punch. Yeah.
a punch. Yeah.
>> It's like the athleticism along with the intelligence, the technique. I'm like,
he's not even doing it that long. And
he's also hyper competitive even though he's wealthy, >> you know, like you would assume that wealth would take away your drive for competition.
>> He's also nuts, right? Just the fact that he's willing to fight the two-time heavyweight champion, former Olympic gold medalist, >> a guy who's gigantic in his pride, built like a Greek god.
>> Yeah.
>> And and you're going to stand and he's a one punch killer. And you're going to stand in front of that guy. And he
avoided shots till the sixth round. He
just started getting tired.
>> Yeah. His movement in that fight was crazy.
>> It was very good. Yeah, it was very good.
>> He was really keeping him moving around the whole ring. And then
>> you can't afford to get tired. And
that's the thing is like he gets tired in a lot of his fights in the later rounds. You should really sort that out
rounds. You should really sort that out because if you did if he had a much bigger gas tank, like if he was training with uh like some of these elite worldclass strength and conditioning
coaches and just worked on his cardio, he'd be beating way more guys.
>> You think so?
>> Yeah. 100%. But it's like what he's doing is learning how to box and he's boxing and he's training hard for sure.
But the to to get that worldass gas tank, you need like a Sam Caliva. You
need like a Nick Kers on. You need like these plyometrics experts that are got heart rate monitors on you and they're they're checking when your recovery is ready and go. And you're [ __ ] Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You need guys monitoring your recovery, monitoring your heart rate variability, your V2 max.
>> I don't and maybe he is, maybe I'm wrong, maybe he is doing that, but whatever it is, it's not enough.
>> It's not enough because in so many of his fights, like the Nate Diaz fight, he gets tired in the later rounds. In the
beginning look >> if that guy is only fighting three rounds, he's a [ __ ] handful. He's
really good.
>> Yeah, >> he clocked Anthony Joshua. He did hit him with a big right hand.
>> He did.
>> Didn't have any effect. Yeah,
>> because he's, you know, really he weighed 216, but he's he's don't doesn't even have abs, right? At 216. He could
easily weigh 190. I'm sure he could make 190. Yeah. Anthony Joshua's gigantic.
190. Yeah. Anthony Joshua's gigantic.
>> So big.
>> He's so big. He's so much bigger. So, of
course, like his punch that he knocks Tyron Woodley out cold with, Joshua just eats it.
>> Yeah, >> cuz he's a giant.
>> He's a [ __ ] giant man.
>> So big, dude.
>> He's so big. He's ter I give I give Jake so much credit for stepping into that ring, >> bro. He got hit with a bomb. A right
>> bro. He got hit with a bomb. A right
hand bomb >> when he got hit with that too. I don't I don't know if enough has been made of the fact that I mean it was absolutely devastating. But the fact that he had
devastating. But the fact that he had awareness immediately to go like like he looked at the oh [ __ ] like wow it wasn't cracked. I think he went into that fight
cracked. I think he went into that fight knowing that was probably going to happen and ultimately the big win for him would be that he was even willing to do it and that he could do well for a little bit.
>> For a little bit. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And then eventually just deal with the fact that Anthony Joshua is going to ko a bomb.
>> Yeah.
>> And breaks his jaw in two places.
>> Yeah.
>> He's [ __ ] His jaws wired shut now. He
lost teeth.
>> See, I mean, he made it to the sixth round.
>> Yeah.
>> Pretty wild. Do they put your teeth back in when they pop out like that or are they gone forever?
>> I don't know. I don't know. But it's
just wired shut for like 6 weeks now.
>> Yeah. You got to eat nothing but protein shakes, >> bro. O.
>> bro. O.
>> It's a I mean, look, it's a crazy world.
The thing is that I I would hope that he recognizes is right now he's doing great and he's only whatever he is, 28, I think.
>> Is he 28?
>> I think he is. How old is uh Jake Paul?
>> He's young.
>> God damn. And he he's probably made 300 million plus in his boxing career. How
how old is Jake Paul?
>> He'll be 29. And
>> look at that. So he's 28 years old. 29
next month.
Don't do this very long because there there there's a price that you pay that is not worth it. It's not worth it. And
that price is depression, deep depression. Uh a severe brain imbalance
depression. Uh a severe brain imbalance that's going to lead you to addiction.
It leads so many people to impulsive behavior. So many people become gambling
behavior. So many people become gambling addicts, drug addicts, alcoholics after their fighting career.
>> Yeah.
>> It's it's you could only take so much and at a certain like that one that he got from Joshua. Oo,
>> you know, say if you have like a punch card, you have like so many punch that you can get in your life, which I believe you do. I believe there's a certain number. That one was like 10
certain number. That one was like 10 bunches. That was like
bunches. That was like >> Yeah, >> it was a lot of concussions in that one punch.
>> Sure.
>> That was real damage. Like if someone's breaking your jaw in two places, the inside of your [ __ ] head is there's a lot of damage going on in there, too.
>> [ __ ] yeah. Just don't do it for I know too many guys that like they wanted to be cool guys and they kept sparring like deep into their 30s and 40s. They would
go to the gym and do hard spar, not jiu-jitsu, boxing, boxing sparring. So
they were just standing in front of each other slugging it out. They get bloody noses. They'd laugh about it and think
noses. They'd laugh about it and think it was cool. And then they go about their day. And I'm like, man, that's
their day. And I'm like, man, that's going to get you. Cuz at a certain point in time that [ __ ] depression is unavoidable. It just creeps in. You just
unavoidable. It just creeps in. You just
every you just oh you don't feel good.
>> You just don't feel good. Like you're
just like all the time just their whole day is like no thanks.
>> You know that feeling when you're hung over? That's their life.
over? That's their life.
>> That's no that's no way to live.
>> And it's it varies. Some guys don't get that. Some guys
that. Some guys >> and he definitely doesn't have to do that. So don't
that. So don't >> anymore. If he could do anything. That
>> anymore. If he could do anything. That
guy can do anything. If he could do what he did in boxing, he could do anything.
Just don't do it forever. Yeah.
>> It's just one of them things where it's like the price you pay >> is eventually not worth it.
>> Yeah.
>> Awesome that he did. I mean, awesome that he he made he probably made $100 million Saturday night.
>> Jesus Christ, that's so much.
>> I don't know what he got paid, but also it's probably worth another hundred million in publicity >> easily >> cuz people loved watching him get knocked out. but also had to say that
knocked out. but also had to say that guy has [ __ ] balls and he does. He
earned it. He earned it. He that guy has every He if he doesn't have your respect after that fight cuz a lot of people like are you going to fight Javvante Davis? He's only 135 lbs. He's like okay
Davis? He's only 135 lbs. He's like okay I'll fight a guy 110 pounds bigger. So
>> and now you couldn't pay me you could not pay me enough to do that.
>> Guy's got balls. He's got nothing but respect for me.
>> Yeah.
>> Nothing but respect. Just don't don't do it forever. There's there comes a time
it forever. There's there comes a time where the cost is not worth it because some people never return. That's what
you have to understand. There's there's
people that get out. Like if you listen to Randy Couture talk now, talk's fine.
He's great. He's he was knocked out a bunch of times. Chuck Liddell knocked him out. Other guys,
him out. Other guys, >> they knew when to dip out.
>> Knew when to dip out. And you know, Randy also like really didn't even begin his UFC career until his late 30s. If
I'm correct, he was either 35 or it might have been 34 or 35 when he had his first UFC fight. I was there. That was
in like [ __ ] the middle of nowhere in the South.
>> Pretty old, right? For
>> Well, he was an elite wrestler. He was
an elite Greco Roman wrestler. And then
he got into MMA late in life. Back in
the time, the days when you'd be able to wear shoes. They used to wrestling shoes
wear shoes. They used to wrestling shoes when they fought.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, wow.
>> The early days used to be able to wear shoes. Um, but like he's he's fine.
shoes. Um, but like he's he's fine.
There's a bunch of guys that are still fine, but there's a bunch of guys that are really struggling. Really
struggling.
>> Don't get there. Don't get there.
>> Scary.
>> Dip out before that happens. Know when
to dip out and have friends that tell you when to dip out.
>> You got to You have a coach a coach that doesn't say, "Well, let's give it one more shot." Yeah.
more shot." Yeah.
>> Like don't that that's not You only want to be doing that if you're trying to be the best in the world. That's my
opinion. I mean, there's a lot of guys who are never going to be the best in the world. I still love competing, but
the world. I still love competing, but and that's great, too. And there's a lot of guys that make a living doing it and they make good money and, you know, and they feed their families. And I'm not I'm not saying don't, but if you have an
option, I don't think you should do it unless you're a [ __ ] complete maniac, absolutely obsessed. You want to do it
absolutely obsessed. You want to do it more than you want to do anything else in life. Because if you don't feel like
in life. Because if you don't feel like that, there's a guy out there that does.
Yeah. And that guy's gonna [ __ ] you up.
Yeah. that guy's going to come and take your soul away from you. I always think of Mike Tyson when he was 20.
>> Yeah.
>> I was like, if you're not that dedicated, you shouldn't be fighting because Mike Tyson is not one person.
There's a bunch of those guys out there.
There's Alex Pereira. There's all
there's all these guys out there in the world that are that obsessed. You know,
there's all these Islam Makachevs and Ilia Toporas. There's these guys out
Ilia Toporas. There's these guys out there in the world that are just driven to do it. And if you want to fight, if you really want to fight, if you run into one of those guys and you're not
doing what they're doing, you're going to get tuned up.
>> Alex, I didn't realize how big he is.
>> Giant.
>> I did not realize that until the photo of him next to somebody I know, like a friend and I was like, >> there's a lot of chatter about him fighting in the heavyweight division now.
>> Really, >> there's a lot of chatter about it.
There's a lot of chatter about him perhaps even fighting serial gone. I
don't know how much of this is true. I
haven't talked to Dana about it, but uh it's not an illogical move. He's 240 lbs right now. 240 plus.
right now. 240 plus.
>> And he's like what? 6'4 65
>> 65 64 65. And don't m make no mistake about it. That guy can knock out heavy
about it. That guy can knock out heavy weights. No doubt about it. He hits
weights. No doubt about it. He hits
harder than anyone they've ever recorded ever on that [ __ ] stupid uh punch machine. Yeah. You know that thing?
machine. Yeah. You know that thing?
Yeah.
>> Francisano got like a 129 on it, which is crazy. He got a 190.
is crazy. He got a 190.
>> 190.
>> 190. When you watch him hit it, you're like, "What the fuck?" You want to see it? You should just see it just to feel
it? You should just see it just to feel what it would feel like to get hit in the head by that.
>> Oh my god.
>> Like that guy is out there in the world.
>> You know what I'm saying? Like if you think you're going to be a journeyman and you're going to all of a sudden, you know, be looking across the octagon and that guy standing there trauma. Like
he's going to hunt you. He's going to hunt you. And you you're not in that
hunt you. And you you're not in that space that he's in. He's in a kill or be killed space and you're in a This is fun to compete.
>> Yeah. It's not the same thing. Not the
same thing.
>> Watch this video cuz it's [ __ ] bananas.
>> Holy [ __ ] >> When he when he hits it, you just go everybody around him goes, "Oh, like what the fuck?" They
>> Oh my god.
>> Watch this.
>> Oh my gosh.
>> See that?
>> Yeah. One more time. One more time.
Well, you do it from the beginning. Look
at >> that. If you don't, that sound is so
>> that. If you don't, that sound is so crazy.
>> Yeah, that's your face.
>> You know what, Mark Goddard? Mark
Goddard was the referee in his fight with Khalil Roundtree. And uh he came up to me right after the fight like I I got into the octagon. They were going to, you know, announce Alex Pere winner by knockout. Goddard walks up to me. He
knockout. Goddard walks up to me. He
goes, "The sound that guy makes." He
goes, "I've been doing this for 20 years." He goes, "The sound is ungodly."
years." He goes, "The sound is ungodly."
>> Really? It's ungodly. It's different.
>> And you can see when you're hearing doing commentary, you see the look on the guys faces when they >> when they get hit. They're like, "Oh, this is real. This is different."
>> Yeah. There's some different dudes out there.
>> There's some different dudes out there.
And that's that's a different not just of dedication and drive and focus because he definitely has all that, but it's genetics. That dude is a legitimate
it's genetics. That dude is a legitimate Amazon warrior. Yeah. like he's he comes
Amazon warrior. Yeah. like he's he comes from a tribe in the Amazon and he goes back to that tribe and he gets he puts on the traditional outfits that they wear and the ma the face paint and hangs
out with them and it's like yo >> he would have been the [ __ ] tribal warlord. He would have been the king
warlord. He would have been the king back in the day. Yeah, I mean that's his that's his ancestry.
>> [ __ ] me.
>> Yeah, he speaks their language.
>> Oh, he does like the dialect.
>> I I think I don't want to misspe but I'm pretty sure he understands what they're saying because he's talking to them. Not
just Portuguese, like Brazil, but they have >> That whole Amazon area is so fascinating man.
>> Have you been to the Amazon?
>> No.
>> I went once.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> What'd you do?
>> My uncle was working for an oil company in in Peru and there's a part of Peru called Iikitos in the north, which is the jungle.
>> And I went with him and we went out on the Amazon. And then we pulled up to
the Amazon. And then we pulled up to some place and um he's like, "We're going to eat here, right?" It's not like [ __ ] Terry Blacks, right? It's just
like some [ __ ] >> a shack >> shack. And the guy just kept bringing I
>> shack. And the guy just kept bringing I was like, "What am I eating?" He was like, "I'll tell you later."
>> Piranha.
>> It was all kinds of weird [ __ ] >> What are we eating?
>> I mean, snakes and rabbits and and you know, like Amazonian [ __ ] that I've never even heard of. And I would take bites. I'm like, "What is this later?
bites. I'm like, "What is this later?
I'll tell you later." Okay. They made me eat all this stuff. And I was like, "This is [ __ ] But when you're out there, yeah, you are kind of wowed, you know, you're just in awe of everything
around you and like just the fact that this is in on the planet with us and you, you know, you can make a trek to a place like this where there's species of not just animals, flowers, and trees and
things that don't exist anywhere else and it's so rich with everything that's there. It's a it's an all inspiring kind
there. It's a it's an all inspiring kind of thing.
>> It hasn't even been documented. There's
so many pharmaceutical drugs that come from plants they find in the wild.
>> It's such a crazy place. You know the craziest part about it? The density of the Amazon rainforest is essentially man-made.
>> Man-made.
>> Man-made. Yeah. Really?
>> Yeah. They didn't know that until fairly recently. Those are agriculture plants
recently. Those are agriculture plants that grew out of control. Out of
control.
>> And they constantly find but they'll find, you know, they'll find like a species of a bird and they'll be like, "This is the only place we've ever seen this bird. It doesn't exist anywhere
this bird. It doesn't exist anywhere else on the planet.
>> It all used to be populated, too. That's
what's really crazy. They do. Have you
seen that lidar stuff they do with and they find all these ancient structures?
Yes.
>> The white man came and brought the cooties happened.
>> And there's still like these tribes >> that live there and literally have blow darts.
>> Oh yeah.
>> That hunt. That's how they kill the their their meals.
>> My friend Paul Rosalie lives there.
>> Lives there.
>> He lives in the Amazon. He's got this organization that's working to try to preserve the rainforest. And one of the things they do is they find these loggers. And these loggers generally
loggers. And these loggers generally they're poor guys that just get forced to do these jobs. And he pays them more than they get paid as loggers to protect the rainforest. So instead of cutting it
the rainforest. So instead of cutting it down, now you have a job where you get paid more, but now your job is to protect the forest.
>> So they plant more and everything.
>> Yeah, they plant more. They stop people from I don't know if they plant, honestly. They stop people from cutting
honestly. They stop people from cutting things down. The problem with planting,
things down. The problem with planting, and this is where the Amazon gets really weird, the Amazon soil natively is is not conducive for growing a lot of
stuff. So, there's a type of soil that's
stuff. So, there's a type of soil that's man-made that they do not know how they did it. They do not know when they
did it. They do not know when they started doing it, but it's called terrapra. Is that what it's called?
terrapra. Is that what it's called?
>> And it's a thick, dark man-made soil.
So, it's essentially compost and all these this different process and carbon and a bunch of things that they get into this man-made layer that's all over the Amazon.
>> Wow.
>> That whole area we thought it like so there you know this Lost City of Z story >> so the lost city of Z was that movie.
Did you ever see it?
>> Was it Percy Richards? What was his name? Percy Faucet.
name? Percy Faucet.
>> Percy Faucet. some so this guy goes down to the Amazon a long time ago and he comes back with this story you know European traveler comes back with this story of golden cities and it's amazing
and so he comes back he reports his findings and then a hundred years later like a new search party goes down there to look for this place they don't find nothing like oh that guy was full of
[ __ ] but it was he wasn't full of [ __ ] it was all real it's just that he brought the cooties so they brought disease and literally wiped out millions
of people, millions of people, and the the jungle just consumed whatever structures were there in a hundred years, which is like, look at Detroit.
Detroit is freezing cold. It's nowhere
near as tropical as as the Amazon. But
Detroit, houses are just trees are growing straight through them, and it's only been like 50 years. So, in a hundred years in the Amazon, everything was gone. All the people were dead. All
was gone. All the people were dead. All
the structures which were wood were all just like consumed by the rainforest.
>> Whoa.
>> Yeah. And they didn't even know this until they started doing this LAR stuff.
And so this LAR stuff when they're flying over with this um it's it's a type of laser and essentially it looks into the ground and finds structures that right through the trees.
>> They can like scan things >> and they're finding aqueducts and all and roads and and like complex irrigation systems, big giant um
symmetrical structures like this. This
is all covered by jungle. Like these
were all buildings and streets. Like
they they had millions of people living in the Amazon. Millions.
>> This is like the same like you know the the theory that you know how like UAPs have become more like there's congressional testimonies about it and everybody's
always talking about where are these visitors coming from? Right.
>> But like one of the theories is that they're not visitors from somewhere else.
>> Yeah.
>> They're visitors from our own planet.
That is an interesting thing.
>> I It's always interesting especially just because we know how much of our planet is actually unexplored. Like we
always think of it as like oh we know the planet >> but like most of the ocean is unexplored. Like a huge number of of the
unexplored. Like a huge number of of the and then obviously things like the jungle where you're just discovering like oh look there's a whole civilization in there.
>> Well there was a civilization >> was. Yes. I think the the the Amazon
>> was. Yes. I think the the the Amazon rainforest people that they encounter now, the unconted people are probably the survivors.
>> Yeah.
>> Because the thing is during the ice age, the equator was lush.
>> Mhm.
>> So these areas probably had like the perfect Yeah. Huge populations, perfect
perfect Yeah. Huge populations, perfect climate. I mean, think about all the
climate. I mean, think about all the incredible structures that you find in those areas like the Incan structures and the Mayan structures. was like they were obviously like a very advanced
civilization back then.
>> Nothing makes sense when you're there.
Like I've been three times to Machu Picchu and that you're always >> Oh, you went to Machu Picchu?
>> Yeah, I went three times and and every time cuz you see photos and stuff when you're actually there you're like I just it's just your brain just goes I don't you know it doesn't because it's all theories right?
>> Everyone like they'll you'll have a guide who's like >> this is how and you're like yeah but this is your guess [ __ ] You don't know that. you know, it just doesn't add up in your head how this
could be built >> up in the Andes like >> Well, the predominant theory by the alternative historians is that water was that high back then >> Oh.
>> in that area. Yeah. And that there have been some enormous seismic changes, you know, earthquakes and the like, which is one of the reasons why they made those stones the way they did in the first
place. Like if you see the stones,
place. Like if you see the stones, they're cut like jigsaw puzzle pieces and slipped into place.
>> Yeah.
>> The reason why they did that is because that would better redistribute any energy that would come from an earthquake.
>> But like just >> so instead of like bricks stacked on top of bricks, they're all like interlocking with each other with a bunch of different angles and they're immense.
>> These pieces are so immense and it's laying perfectly flush against the next piece. Like it's not like
piece. Like it's not like >> kind of >> sloppily thrown together. It looks like an architecture firm designed it and hired, you know, like that. There were
cranes putting You're like, "How the [ __ ] would this be put together in 1500?"
1500?" >> Yeah. It's it's really really difficult
>> Yeah. It's it's really really difficult to figure out. Yeah.
>> They don't know and they don't even know the date. The date is silly because
the date. The date is silly because they're they're not what they're basing the date off of. There's a bunch of different structures. There's the base
different structures. There's the base structure which is way more complex and way bigger like speci and a bunch of these other places that they have layers of civilization. It's really clear.
of civilization. It's really clear.
Yeah. Like the layers above it are like less sophisticated than the giant megalithic stuff that's below it. And
yet they all try to attribute it to the same time. The problem is they get
same time. The problem is they get married to a timeline. And once they get married to that timeline then they go, "Oh well that's just what it is. That's
just what it is."
>> But they don't know what it is. They're
always they're they just they're they've discovered this new um stone structure that is in um
uh Oregon and it's 18,000 years old.
They didn't even think up until fairly recently they didn't think that people were here 18,000 years ago.
>> There's a structure in Oregon that's 1800 >> Let me see if I can find it. I think
Yeah, here it is. I found it.
>> I always feel like when when those the experts give you the >> Oh, did you find it, Jamie? Yeah.
testing yields new evidence of human occupation 18,000 years ago in Oregon.
>> So they just keep and so this is a stone wall.
>> It's pretty cool.
>> Um so they found camel teeth fragments under a layer of volcanic ash from an eruption in Mount St. Helens that was dated over 15,000 years ago. Team also
uncovered two finely crafted orange >> I don't know what that word is a gate scrapers.
>> A gate scrapers. I guess it's a type of stone. One in 2012 would preserve bison
stone. One in 2012 would preserve bison blood residue and another in 2015 buried deeper in the ash. So they did the radiocarbon dating on this stuff and
they came up with a date of 18,250 years before present time. [ __ ] >> That's so goddamn long ago.
>> Uh the the date in association with stone tools suggested the Rimrock Draw Rock Shelter is one of the oldest human occupation sites in North America. See
if you can find what that looks like.
Mhm.
>> So, there's a there's a few places in uh America where people are like, "Okay, what the [ __ ] is this?" And um one of them that's really interesting, what
does Perplexity have to say about this?
The site is a shallow rock shelter about 3 m deep, 20 ft 20 m long on a basalt rim near the town of Riley in Harage
County, Oregon at the northern edge of the Great Basin. Interesting.
Um, this stuff is so interesting to me.
>> Yeah, >> because one of there's a weird one in Montana. Have you seen the the Sage Wall
Montana. Have you seen the the Sage Wall in Montana? This one's really weird. So,
in Montana? This one's really weird. So,
this one is actually debatable apparently. So, there are some people
apparently. So, there are some people that are u geologists that look at this and say it this has it could be a natural formation. And other people look
natural formation. And other people look at and go, "Yeah, but it has like legit tooling on it." So this is a wall that's on a piece of private property in Montana. Like just looking at that
Montana. Like just looking at that image, boy, that looks a lot like people made it. Yeah, that looks a lot like people
it. Yeah, that looks a lot like people made it. So the there's an argument
made it. So the there's an argument though that there are similar but not as uniquely man-made looking structures that are not that are definitely not man-made.
>> Wait, so this is a the debate is that this might not be man-made. Like this
might be naturally occurring.
>> Exactly.
>> Like look at that. What are the odds that that is what is that? Like what is that? Is that funny evidence of an
that? Is that funny evidence of an ancient civilization or is that just a geological formation?
>> Well, the funny thing is in that image I I lean more towards I could see how you could make a case of a natural formation >> perhaps. But on the other ones where
>> perhaps. But on the other ones where things look more stacked, it feels like that like that second image below.
>> That's not it.
>> No, that's I think that's AI. Okay. So,
I was trying to be careful which ones I was trying to show you.
>> But when you look at it from the top, that's kind of crazy.
>> Yeah, that is kind of crazy.
>> There's parts of it though that look like there's stuff around that that just doesn't look as uniquely man-made.
>> But it's it is without a doubt weird.
>> Yeah. Because if it turns out that people did make this thing and apparently it goes deep into the ground like there's some like there's some cuts that looks like and then there's also
some evidence uh that looks like somebody might have been working on the stone like drill holes or something. I
forget what it was. But look look at these.
>> Yeah, that looks like this is not that comparing that's comparing it to the stuff that's in Peru which has some of the craziest stuff. Peru has some of the craziest stuff in the world.
Like look at that. Like look at that angle. Go back to that one right there.
angle. Go back to that one right there.
Like what the [ __ ] is that?
>> That's crazy.
>> Are there nubs on any of these rocks?
>> That's a good question. But some of them like boy that looks really [ __ ] suspicious.
>> You You've looked up I don't know if we've talked about the lines of Nazca before.
>> Oh yeah.
>> That's so >> Well, do you know about the the mummies the tridactyl mummies that they found in that area?
>> Uhuh.
>> Oh boy.
>> No.
>> Oh boy. Okay. So, they've always had artwork that depicted these threefingered, three-toed beings with big eyes. It's a part of like ancient
big eyes. It's a part of like ancient Peruvian artwork. Like, they're dated
Peruvian artwork. Like, they're dated back to like a thousand years.
>> Well, they found these mummified remains of the weirdest looking [ __ ] creatures you've ever seen in your life.
They're three feet tall. They have big heads, three fingers, and three toes.
And they're dead. And then they do CT scans on them. They have all the ligaments and structure of a living being but with they like a different
scapula than us and I think oh they don't have a sternum but they have all they have the ribs that we have I think the same amount of ribs but their structure is different but it's a real structure like when you see the
structure with the CT scan you see flesh and tissue these things >> whoa >> bro this is all in Peru so there's all these little metallic implants on this
thing too. But this is the structure of
thing too. But this is the structure of its body. And as it goes further, it
its body. And as it goes further, it shows the tissue and everything because it's mummified. So you could see like
it's mummified. So you could see like ligaments and tissue. And when you So these are there's a bunch of different scans they did. And one of them the being was pregnant. But look, it has a
spinal column. It has all the joints are
spinal column. It has all the joints are in order, but they're different than our in that area. It was
>> Yes. This is all in Peru.
>> Um, and it's all in the same. Look, look
at this. It has a [ __ ] metallic golden implant in its forehead. And look
at the size of its head. Like it looks like a gray, right?
>> See if you can get some of those images that show the the CT scans of the tissue >> because the CT scans of the tissue are the weird also. There it is. So it also has fingerprints
which are weird. Like look at that. It
has [ __ ] fingerprints but they're different than ours and three digits.
>> Unique fingerprints. They don't know what this is but my friend Jesse Michaels went down there and saw them in person. And he said it was unreal. He
person. And he said it was unreal. He
said it's really [ __ ] bizarre.
>> Did I tell you when I went to the Linus the Nazca?
>> No.
>> So I went there. I was I was in >> Did we get a pictures of like the the whole skeleton >> and my uncle set me up to go see them with my dad. And so we got into um what
was a cartel plane that was confiscated by the government. It was now like a you like a provian government plane, like a military plane, but it was really like a
um four four seats in the back, two pilots in the front, I think. Uh two
propellers, right? One of those types of planes. The best way to see the lines is
planes. The best way to see the lines is in a chopper so you can hover. But we
went on a plane and we're like I mean it's you're you can't believe what you're seeing, right? like you're you're flying over and they're taking us. And
then >> in like the >> middle of it, my dad's like, "I need to pee."
pee." >> And I'm like, "What?" He's like, "Tell the pilot I need to pee." I'm like, "We're in a we're going to keep doing this." He's like, "I have to pee now."
this." He's like, "I have to pee now."
>> Oh, boy.
>> So, I go to the pilot. I was like, "Hey, my dad's got to pee." He's like, "What?"
I go, "Yeah."
He's like 65. I'm like, "He's got to pee." And the guy's like, "All right."
pee." And the guy's like, "All right."
So we just find some random air strip I think in Pisco or something and then >> How long does it take to do that?
>> I forget. I mean we had to go out of our way and then you know he pees.
>> How long did it take?
>> I mean for us to get to the airirstrip probably like it was out of the way so maybe like another 20 minutes or something. Yeah.
something. Yeah.
>> And I was like dude he's like what am I supposed to do? I was like I don't know.
Didn't you [ __ ] pee before we got in this thing? He's like yeah but I got to
this thing? He's like yeah but I got to pee again. All right. And then they just
pee again. All right. And then they just like walk around and they find an oil canteen that was like discarded on the runway. And they're like, "This is for
runway. And they're like, "This is for your dad so that if he has to pee again, we don't have to land the [ __ ] plane." And I was like, "Here you go,
plane." And I was like, "Here you go, Dad." Like just if it strikes you again,
Dad." Like just if it strikes you again, please piss in this.
>> Did he do it?
>> Yeah, he did it.
>> He did. He pissed it.
>> He pissed again.
>> Oh my god. He pissed in the oil can.
>> Yeah.
>> So you're flying around with your dad's piss and then where he's like, "That's pretty neat." looking at the lines of
pretty neat." looking at the lines of Nazca like, yeah, pretty neat, man.
>> Really bizarre.
>> It's kind of funny, too, to think about.
Um, >> show me the images of the uh the like the red ones where it shows the tissues and the ligaments.
>> The the fact that some people aren't wowed by things like this. Do you know what I mean?
>> Jay Anderson had a good one. He had a bunch of good because he he did a piece on it, too. Yeah. Well, you have to be out of your [ __ ] mind to not be wowed by this.
>> Yeah, I know. But don't you feel like half the population is like, "Oh, that's cool."
cool." >> Half the population is asleep.
>> Yeah. They're all on Tik Tok. It's all
rotten their brain. They're all just so social media is like transformed their attention. They're they're locked in on
attention. They're they're locked in on nonsense, on things that don't have any any bearing on their life whatsoever.
And that's what they're focusing on six hours a day.
>> Yeah, >> that's a lot of people.
>> And then you show them something like this and they're like, >> this is this is completely bananas.
>> Yeah, that's a >> that's [ __ ] alien. It's a [ __ ] alien. or it might have been a kind of
alien. or it might have been a kind of human being, right? So, you know about there's a bunch of different ones, right? Everybody knows about
right? Everybody knows about Neandertols, but there's also the Hobbit people in the island of Flores. There's
three foot tall human beings that looked probably like, you know, like a hobbit, like little chimp. Look at that [ __ ] thing.
>> [ __ ] a >> like what is that?
>> And the thing is it's like if you just saw the outside, you'd go, "Oh, that's a cool structure or cool sculpture rather." But then when you see the
rather." But then when you see the actual ligaments and tendons and all the stuff inside of it, you go, "Oh, this is a living being, whatever the hell it is, and they they all have three toes and
three fingers."
three fingers." >> It just it's it's just strikes me, too, that like this isn't the primary conversation.
>> Look at that we're having, though.
>> I mean, look at that.
>> I know.
>> How insane is that?
>> It's an alien, man.
>> They're very different. They also um they have different shaped heads. Like
there's a difference between, you know, >> how many did they find?
>> Oh, there's a quite a few of them.
There's quite a few of them.
>> What is the Monzerat? Is that
>> That's the bigger one. That's the
biggest one that they have.
>> That's the name they gave it.
>> Yeah, they gave it a name. So, this is the largest one and the most impressive.
And she has these metallic implants.
She's got the one on her forehead and she's got several of them on her body.
It's a very weird thing because it seems like it's a living creature, but it's not like a human being. Like even the way it's skull, those lines in the skull, like we all have those whatever
those those lines are the Yeah. Their
lines are different than ours.
Everything's different.
>> Jesus.
>> Yeah. And the way they found these things were grave robbers find them. So
they don't really tell you where they found them. They lie about them. They
found them. They lie about them. They
find them in Peru.
>> But I mean like how long ago did this happen?
>> All this is fairly recent. Okay. All
this is within the last decade or so.
But the really the focus on it has been over the last year or so where a lot of these scientists have gone down there to take a look at it and guys like Jesse Michaels and some other people.
>> The problem is the um the country doesn't want them removed for testing.
Right. Right.
>> But you're going to have to bring equipment down there because testing has to be done. Like we have to figure out what these things are because it seems like it's a life form that is a bipeedal
homminid that's different than us that probably lived alongside. By the way, that thing is also 1,200 years old.
>> That's old.
>> Yeah, it's 1,200 years old. So, it's not a it's not a fake.
>> Wonder if that's the civilization that did those lines, you know.
>> Very well. Could be. They could be the same civilization that also did all that those structures up there. There might
have been living amongst us. There might
have been multiple different civilizations in the past that just don't exist anymore. If these things turn out to be real and they do have this enormous head and these weird spindly bodies and three fingers and
three toes and they start finding more and more artifacts that point to that, I mean that changes our understanding of what has existed here before cuz whatever that thing is, it's at the very
least it's advanced enough to give itself metal implants. Like what's
what's going on there where it has a gold circle in its forehead implanted into its skull? Like what's the point of that? like what I mean because gold does
that? like what I mean because gold does have a place in electronics you know they use gold in certain electronics it's got great kind of conductivity
right so why does it have what is that thing if it's a real thing everybody should be like it should be front page New York Times yeah look at that look at that implant that's Jay Anderson he was
actually just on >> what could this mean >> yeah bro it's bananas >> look at those eye like the slots for the eyes >> yeah like a gray alien tridactyl, but yeah,
>> like a gray alien. And by the way, like people have described when they've had encounters, they've described things that look exactly like that. Three
fingers, three toes, spindly, big head, large eyes.
>> And he went down there and >> he went down. My friend M uh Jesse Michaels went down there and actually touched them. He was that was the first
touched them. He was that was the first video. He was in the room while they
video. He was in the room while they were doing the scans. He said it's so strange. He he said it feels so surreal
strange. He he said it feels so surreal because it's so obvious that it was a real living thing. I I don't understand how that's not like the lead story in the news sometimes >> everywhere. Yeah. And meanwhile,
>> everywhere. Yeah. And meanwhile,
they're, you know, arguing over, >> you know, everything else. Everything.
Whatever the [ __ ] it is. Can you believe what's going on with Turning Point USA?
They found aliens.
>> I know.
>> They found alien bodies. Like, if you you ever wanted alien bodies, oh, show me a body. That's an alien body.
>> At the very least, it's not us. So,
maybe it's from here and went extinct.
or maybe it's in the ocean >> or the congressional testimony of like highlevel whistleblowers being like we have these >> uh whatever this ship whatever you want
to call it that we've and then it's like in a congressional testimony and everyone's like that's cool >> nobody cares >> nobody cares >> yeah everybody's like tick tocking >> but it was funny >> believe Nicki Minaj was on stage at the
TP USA >> it's crazy it's really crazy to me yeah that that's like that's not captivating people Well, I think you know people are in a
trance. There's a giant percentage of
trance. There's a giant percentage of our population that's in a trance. That
should be the main news other than the wars. That should be the main news
wars. That should be the main news today.
>> Well, hopefully they're in a trance to watch my new special, Teacher, on Netflix.
>> I like how you did that.
>> Go ahead and zone out and watch that with your family.
>> Yeah. Well, comedy is [ __ ] super important when the world's go going crazy.
>> It sure is.
>> When the world is going crazy right now.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> we were talking about the Epstein releases like before we got started.
Like first of all, like >> the photo dump and the the emails. It's
[ __ ] nuts.
>> Well, it's also they're they're doing it so slowly.
>> Like you guys have had this stuff for a year.
>> Like don't >> and we were promised multiple times.
It's coming. It's coming.
>> Doesn't it seem like you could just throw all that into AI at this stage of the game? Yes. And just redact the names
the game? Yes. And just redact the names of the victims and let's go.
>> Yeah, of course.
>> It seems like that would take five minutes. I mean, it feels like in I
minutes. I mean, it feels like in I mean, can't you can't help but feel like the administration is just like watching their back and that's why it's happening.
>> Watching someone's back. I mean, it's all speculative why they haven't released it. But it's not good. It's not
released it. But it's not good. It's not
good for everybody's confidence. It's
also It's not good that >> this thing was going on that they had this bizarre blackmail operation running. That's very weird.
running. That's very weird.
>> Very strange.
>> Very weird. But it kind of makes sense because if you're a, you know, a 60-year-old billionaire and you're a freak and you like to get your freak on, but unfortunately you're a gigantic software developer and everybody knows who you are. Yeah. Like it's hard to get your freak on.
>> Well, there's that's the thing is like there's that it makes sense when you go like, "Oh, some of these dudes really like visiting that place." It's like that's the only place they can go, >> right?
>> You can't go anywhere else, >> right? And that's why they set it up for
>> right? And that's why they set it up for them.
>> Yeah.
>> Eric Weinstein said that to me once. He
like I was like, "Oh, okay. That makes
sense." if you're the former president of the United States, you can't go to a nightclub.
>> Yeah. He said, I think there are people out there that provide experiences for certain people that have a a hunger for them. I was like, of course, of course.
them. I was like, of course, of course.
And that's also how they compromise people too right?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> That's how they get you to vote the way they want you to vote and play ball.
Bobby, we got video. You sucking a dick.
Yeah. Yeah.
>> What do you want to do?
>> What do you want to do? Yeah. Cuz like I I bet all those people have something on them. That's how they stay in the game.
them. That's how they stay in the game.
It's they have to >> like skull and bones. You got to suck the dick.
>> Well, look at like >> otherwise we can't trust you >> for the Epstein [ __ ] Like look at the level of people that we're visiting. I
mean it's all at the highest level of influence, power, and fame.
>> Yeah.
>> And so you go, "Yeah, this dude wants to do some wild [ __ ] He can't go to [ __ ] He can't go to Cheetahs and get it done, you know? He can't do it.
>> He's got to go somewhere." Yeah. What
What sounds a private island.
>> Yeah. He can't just like order up a call girl.
>> Uh-uh. He's too It's It's too risky.
>> Where you going? I'm going to Captain Billionaire's house to go suck his dick.
I do it every Tuesday. Plus, I'm on meth and I'm really good at keeping secrets.
>> Yeah.
>> These guys the [ __ ] It's It's dark.
It's [ __ ] dark.
>> So, some guy comes along and says, "I can take care of your problem."
>> And then >> Yeah. And everybody says, "Oh, trust me.
>> Yeah. And everybody says, "Oh, trust me.
He's a great guy."
>> He's really cool.
>> And he's got a great >> He also does this thing.
>> Yeah. Great sense of humor.
>> Yeah.
>> His staff love him.
>> They also do this thing where, you know, it's like you're gonna hang out with other famous people, so it must be safe.
>> Hey, Bill Clinton's here. This is no problem.
>> This is a statement released by the spokesperson or spokesman for Bill Clinton.
>> Oh, let's read that.
>> Yeah.
>> Wait a minute. There's a person who signed it.
I'm My name is Angel Urina. Spokes
spokesman for the former President Bill Clinton. Isn't that weird?
Clinton. Isn't that weird?
>> He's the deputy chief of staff for Bill Clinton.
>> Okay.
He's He's still got a chief of staff.
What does he do these days? Epstein
Files Transparency Act imposes a clear legal duty on the US Department of Justice to produce the full and complete record of the public demands and deserves that uh the public demands and deserves. However, what the Dem
deserves. However, what the Dem Department of Justice has released so far in the manner in which it did so makes one thing clear. Someone or
something is being protected. We do not know whom, what, or why. This is like uh the killer pretending to be the detective.
>> Yeah, >> we've got to solve this crime. We do not know whom.
>> This is the killer joining the search party.
>> We do not know whom, what, or why. We
have photos. Are you in a [ __ ] hot tub buddy?
>> But we do know this. We need no such protection. Accordingly, we call on
protection. Accordingly, we call on President Trump to direct Attorney General Bondi to immediately release any remaining materials referring to, mentioning, or containing a photograph
of Bill Clinton. This includes, without limitation, any records that may exist and are subject to disclosure under the act, public law 119-38, enacted on November 19th, 2025,
including grand jury transcripts, interview notes, photographs, and findings by the This means a deal was made. So, if you release, you have a
made. So, if you release, you have a press release like that, that means the call went well.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> You got a deal in We're good.
>> We are good.
>> All we have to do is let him run for a third term >> and we're fine.
>> And uh look, he's >> dude. Clinton chilling in that hot tub,
>> dude. Clinton chilling in that hot tub, too.
>> Hey, I would chill in a hot tub, too. It
feels nice.
>> Yeah, it feels nice, but it just like to >> What's the big deal? You're chilling in a hot tub. If I went to your house and you had a hot tub, like, let's all get in the hot tub. I'd get in there. take a
picture of me. I'm like, "Fuck, dude. I
don't even know her."
>> Yeah.
>> Why'd you do that?
>> I don't know. I didn't know how old she was.
>> And you got cameras up all over your house.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> He knew what he was doing.
>> Oh, yeah. Probably watching people do Coke in the bathroom. You got cameras of that. They were probably doing all kinds
that. They were probably doing all kinds of [ __ ] >> He was compromising a lot of people.
>> Mhm. And made a [ __ ] ton of money doing it.
>> God damn. He sure did.
>> Boy, that's what's really weird. like he
got gifted a giant mansion in Manhattan by that uh the dude from Victoria >> Victoria Secret. Yeah. And then that guy was like, "Yeah, he was just running my finances, but then I didn't realize what
kind of guy he was, but I gave him billions of dollars to manage." And
you're like, "What?"
>> Yeah.
>> I didn't know what kind of a guy he was after he got arrested for having sex with underage girls.
>> And so then I stopped working with him.
>> Okay. My favorite one was when they were questioning uh Bill Gates about it.
>> Mhm.
>> And he goes, "Well, he, you know, he's dead now, so you got to be careful."
>> Do you ever see that?
>> No.
>> Oh, it's crazy.
>> That's it. That's crazy.
>> That's crazy. She asks him like why he had, you know, these interactions with with Jeffrey Epstein, and he's essentially saying it was a mistake. You
know, I was hoping that he was going to do a lot of work with philanthropy. He's
going to help me out with philanthropy.
>> Right. That's why I meet with him so many times.
>> But the end result, the la the final state it was chilling. He's like, "He's dead now. So, you have to be careful."
dead now. So, you have to be careful."
>> Like, >> what?
>> What does that mean?
>> What does that mean? What do you mean?
Be careful to not hang yourself in jail, which is what the official story is, right? Is that what you mean?
right? Is that what you mean?
>> Be careful or you'll hang yourself in jail. Is that what you're saying?
jail. Is that what you're saying?
>> No, it's not what you're saying. You're
saying be careful cuz someone killed them, >> right? Which is what we all think. Which
>> right? Which is what we all think. Which
is why there's no [ __ ] the cameras were down. Which is why the guards were
were down. Which is why the guards were asleep. Which is why his [ __ ] his
asleep. Which is why his [ __ ] his gigantic roommate who was a murderer and a a drugdeing cop >> who assassinated people who's built like a [ __ ] gorilla. You see his You ever
see his roommate? You never saw Jeffrey Epstein's roommate?
>> Uhuh.
>> Oh boy.
>> He had a cellmate when he was there, >> bro. Not only did he have a cellmate, he
>> bro. Not only did he have a cellmate, he had a cellmate that had murdered several people in drug deals who was a cop and he was a gigantic roided up psychopath.
This is the roommate.
>> I remember >> he didn't get that guy to kill him for extra cigarettes is what my point is.
>> He's in jail for life.
>> I remember uh >> that guy >> that guy that was his [ __ ] roommate.
Just imagine what kind of a plan you would have for the biggest defendant in
any sort of highlevel espionage possibly involving foreign governments and you'd put him in a a
prison cell, a cage with a guy who's who's committed four different murders.
That guy was a cop.
>> Yes. Look at the build on this [ __ ] Look at the size of this guy.
>> Yeah, >> this is the guy. A murderer.
>> That's nice.
>> Yeah, he's a sweet guy. You put a murderer. Well, he had to have a bunch
murderer. Well, he had to have a bunch of things barking in case anyone came near his property to get back at him.
>> Do you remember that um famous forensic?
>> Michael Baden.
>> Yeah.
>> He he testified that the hyoid I think it's called the hyoid bone.
>> Yeah. that was um snapped on on uh Epstein was far more consistent with as he says a homicide.
>> Yeah.
>> Than uh So it bothers me so much that he says it like that.
>> A homicide.
>> Yeah. He says
>> I think he said it was broken in two places.
>> He's like that's much more consistent with homicide than suicide.
>> Yeah. It was someone strangled him.
Someone strangled him from behind. It
was also the the position. Here it is.
Play this.
>> It's at the end I think.
I >> regret doing that.
>> He had relationships with uh people he said, you know, would give to global health, which is a uh interest I have.
You know, not nearly enough philanthropy goes in that direction. Uh you know, those meetings were were a mistake. They
didn't result in uh what he purported and I cut them off. You know, that goes back a long time ago now. Uh there's,
you know, so there's nothing new on that.
>> It was reported that you continued to meet with him over several years. Um and
that, in other words, a number of meetings. Um what did you do when you
meetings. Um what did you do when you found out about his background?
>> Well, and you know, I've said I regretted having those dinners. Uh and there's nothing absolutely nothing new on that.
Is there a lesson for you, for anyone else looking looking at this?
>> Well, he's dead, so uh you know, in general, you always have to be careful.
Uh and you know, the you know, I'm I'm very proud of what we've done in philanthropy, very proud of the work of
the foundation. Uh you know, I that's
the foundation. Uh you know, I that's that's what I get up every day and focus on.
>> Me, too. I'm a good guy.
>> Jesus Christ. Imagine if he was reading for a film. You'd be like, I don't believe a word you just said. I don't
believe a word you just said.
>> Take two. Let's do this again.
>> Okay. Who wrote this? Like he's going to just transition from hanging out with this guy. He's dead now to I'm really
this guy. He's dead now to I'm really proud of the work we've done with philanthropy. Let's uh let's shift this
philanthropy. Let's uh let's shift this conversation in a much more positive place.
>> That's a PR spin.
>> I'm super proud of the work we've done with philanthropy. That's, you know, he
with philanthropy. That's, you know, he got into all that stuff in the first place after the Microsoft stuff cuz Microsoft at one point in time had these all this anti-competitive accusations,
right?
>> And so he was thought as being this guy that like, you know, was drowning out competition, was monopolizing.
>> So then he pivoted, became a philanthropist. It's a good move.
philanthropist. It's a good move.
>> It is a good move. It's good.
>> You know who else did that?
>> The guy who invented the Nobel Prize.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Peter Berg told me the story. It's
a cool story. So he dies. The guy I forget what his first name is. His last
name is Nobel. He died and uh everybody called him the merchant of death because he made dynamite.
>> Oh.
>> So he didn't really die though. It was a a fake story. So he saw the stories.
He's like, "Hey, I'm not dead, but oh my god, this is how people think about me.
This is how they're going to write about me after I'm dead. I got to do something to clean my image up." So to clean his image up, he invents the Nobel Prize. He
starts giving out these prizes for peace and for physics and Nobel Prize for Yeah.
>> And so then the Nobel Prize becomes synonymous with excellence.
>> The name Nobel is now connected to that instead of connected to killing a bunch of [ __ ] with dynamite.
>> That's a great marketing move on his part.
>> Is that nuts?
>> Yeah.
>> What was his real name?
>> Alfred Nobel.
>> Alfred Nobel made dynamite, right? That
was the thing.
>> Yeah, but I'm looking at the the Nobel Prize. is a well it says there's a
Prize. is a well it says there's a well-known story about the origin of the Nobel Prize, although historians have been unable to verify it and some dismiss it as a myth.
>> Well, let's find out if the story of him uh being called the merchant of death are true and the the fake death when people thought he died. Is that true?
>> That's I mean I have to uh >> just check that out real quick. Look
that out. I bet it's true.
>> That's a good marketing move.
>> It's a move. It's a move that people do, you know. Well, that was also what um
you know. Well, that was also what um you know some really evil people have have done also, you know, like um if you want to like serial killers, you know,
like John Wayne Gasey was like, I do clown parties for kids. Like it's like look over here. I'm a fun guy, you know, Cosby was always like, >> you know, telling people how to live their life and like people,
>> don't tell dirty jokes.
>> Yeah. Don't curse.
>> Don't swear. Yeah. He would call people up and tell them not to swear anymore.
Yeah. Called it.
>> Get mad at them.
>> Mie Murphy.
>> Oh, yeah. Famous. Famously.
>> Yeah. With the filth floor and filth.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. He did. He did do that. He did do that. I remember one time Wanda Sykes
that. I remember one time Wanda Sykes interviewed him at like some award thing. Like he was in the crowd and she
thing. Like he was in the crowd and she came up to him to interview him and he was like so rude to her.
>> He had so much disdain. I remember that too.
>> Remember that? It was weird. Okay. Nobel
grew extremely wealthy from inventions like dynamite and blasting gelatin which are widely used in warfare and earned him the nickname the merchant of death in the press. 1888 French newspaper mistakenly published his obituary after
his brother's death condemning him as a man who became rich by finding ways to kill more people faster. This stock this shock is widely seen as prompting him to rethink how he'd be remembered. So it is true.
>> Yeah, >> there should be no dispute of this. In
his will of 1895, he left most of his fortune to fund prizes for those who shall be conferred the greatest benefit on mankind.
>> Of course, you're dead. You don't need your money. Nobel uh never publicly
your money. Nobel uh never publicly explained his motives. [ __ ] duh. So,
historians emphasize that any account of his reason is an informed reconstruction, not a direct statement from him. Okay, I get that because
from him. Okay, I get that because they're historians and accurate. Did you
see how I I think it was I don't These days you don't know what what's has to be confirmed not but it looked like on the Kennedy Center they started putting the name Trump on it.
>> Yeah. He added his name to it.
>> Yeah. It's crazy.
And he took out the Kennedy Rose Garden.
You're like what?
>> Take it away. Now it's like a cement [ __ ] >> nutty. There's nothing nuttier than the
>> nutty. There's nothing nuttier than the the plaques underneath the president's >> That's insane. That's insane.
>> Shane and I were just reading them the other day. How is this real? It doesn't
other day. How is this real? It doesn't
feel real and you're just like, >> how are you allowed to do that? That's
the thing. It's like, how is he allowed to write that >> in the White House? You can just probably as president do what you want in the White House.
>> Turns out you obviously can because but nobody ever did it before.
>> Those are going to get taken down.
>> No, they'll be up forever.
>> I don't think so.
>> They're going to leave it like that forever.
>> No [ __ ] way.
>> Yeah, like a museum piece.
>> It's so crazy.
>> They should have like the Trump wing.
This is what happened when he was president.
>> Look at this [ __ ] lunatic. the
autopen photo of Joe Biden >> and and the actual trans what's written crazy.
>> This is widely considered the worst president of all. Like what are you talking about?
>> It should be like a museum. Yeah.
>> It should be the facts of his presidency, what happened during his term, you know, the Iraq war started and duh duh duh. It should be that. Of
course, that's it.
>> If that, you know, >> and under Reagan, it's like Reagan liked Trump and Trump liked him too.
>> Trump was a fan of Reagan. What? Why
does that re >> was a fan of Trump. What?
>> It's Yeah, guys crazy.
>> But you can't just let someone just [ __ ] fully swim in it like that.
>> I know.
>> So, he needs like a right-hand man. Go,
sir.
>> I think they just >> Let me just I understand the motive.
>> Well, he's also losing it, too. You can
tell.
>> Well, I think everybody does when you get to a certain age, right?
>> Yeah, of course. I mean, the guy's about to be 80, right? So there's no And also the stress of going through what that guy went through where they were trying to jail him >> when they were going after him with the
Russia thing, the Russia hoax and all that [ __ ] Like they were they were trying everything they could to destroy him. Just that alone's got to break your
him. Just that alone's got to break your brain.
>> It radicalizes you. It makes Yeah.
>> And then they took a shot at him. Yeah.
Somebody shot him. Then that guy dies.
And then when the guy dies, they find out that his apartment's been professionally scrubbed. They find out
professionally scrubbed. They find out uh he was in a Black Rockck commercial like two years before that.
>> He was >> Oh yeah.
>> The shooter.
>> The shooter. Oh yeah.
>> Was he an actor? No.
>> Yeah. In the film. Yeah. But obviously
he was like connected to some people that knew some people.
>> What does that mean? It might mean nothing.
>> Yeah.
>> But it there's also a lot of weirdness to his his past.
>> It does have a social media profile.
>> It was like he he he seems like like an MK ultra plant. This presidency though does feel like a parody of a real thing.
Like it doesn't even feel real. What
most >> There's a lot of stuff that doesn't feel real. The um for sure the Robiner thing
real. The um for sure the Robiner thing didn't feel real.
>> Oh my god.
>> That that seemed so insane.
>> I you know I didn't realize cuz I I obviously knew him. I knew Robiner as the actor from from All in the Family, which he was he was great in that role.
>> And then I I have memories of like I always think of like when Harry Met Sally, the Princess Bride. Yep.
>> And I was like, "Oh, yeah." You know, he's spinal stand by me. So, I'm like, "Oh, you know, great storyteller, comedy." I didn't realize until he died
comedy." I didn't realize until he died that he did Misery.
>> I had no idea that was him.
>> Yeah, he did Misery, too. He did so many great films. >> He really did. really understood like human emotion and and storytelling across the board because like it's one
thing to be proficient in comedy and you see this sometimes with comedy really high level like Adam Mccay did so much highlevel comedy with Saturday Night Live and then you know Tallaladega
Nights and and like those those big Will Ferrell movies and then his pivot into drama is like exceptional you know like he's really really good at it and it's like really remarkable when they can make that jump.
>> Yeah, >> he's really really good.
>> Yeah. Well, Jordan Peele, he's fantastic at it.
>> Another one. Yeah.
>> He's He's made some giant horror movies that are just like >> And he was so funny in comedy.
>> It's weird how good they are.
>> It's weird how like different they are, too.
>> Yeah. How they go like I'm comedy, I'm comedy, and then like this hard pivot into a totally different lane and be not just let me try it, but be like excellent at it.
>> Yeah. But I kind of get it, right? It's
like if you can get really good at comedy, like which is a complicated thing to do, you for sure have other creative thoughts. Yeah. Access to other
creative thoughts. Yeah. Access to other things.
>> Yeah.
>> And you're not really probably using those.
>> Yeah. And I think also they get I think a lot of those guys get bored, >> especially running a sketch show, right?
Yeah. Like after a while, you just beat all the topics to death.
>> You know, I mean, how many topics on especially like a mid sketch show are so derivative.
>> Yeah. Of course.
>> Yeah. There's a lot of that. and they
just go, "I did it. There's nothing else to to jump into."
>> Well, you might have like nine episodes you have to bang out. Well, I don't have to tell you. You're actually in the middle of now.
>> I'm in the middle of it. Yeah. We just
finished writing season two.
>> But you have your show is a giant advantage is you could just you could go so far. Yeah.
And be so ridiculous.
>> They kind of just let us do what we want, which is really crazy. I got the same notes I got the first season. Don't
say the N word. That was basically it.
That's like that's my that's everything else. They're like, "Yeah, you can do
else. They're like, "Yeah, you can do that."
that." >> It's such a crazy show, dude. It's
really fun, though.
>> It's so much fun. I had so much fun doing it. Um I can't believe I get to do
doing it. Um I can't believe I get to do it again. And it's just it is such a
it again. And it's just it is such a blast. We get to make these like
blast. We get to make these like sketches and like little short films that are like whatever we can think of, whatever the craziest thing we can think of. And they're just like, "Yeah, do
of. And they're just like, "Yeah, do that."
that." And they gave us they gave me like a mandate. They're like, "We'd rather tell
mandate. They're like, "We'd rather tell you tell you that's too far than that you should have gone further."
>> Right? Right. So, they're just like, you can make it as crazy as you want.
>> That's nuts.
>> Yeah.
>> But that's the beautiful thing about Netflix is the variety of what's on there is just so bananas. It's so wide ranging. There's so much [ __ ] on there.
ranging. There's so much [ __ ] on there.
>> I just watched um The Beast in Me.
>> Oh, yeah. I'm on uh episode three right now. Don't tell me anything.
now. Don't tell me anything.
>> It gets so much better.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure it does.
>> And um >> how good is Claire Dan?
>> Claire Dane's amazing. Uh Matthew Reese plays >> he's a psycho. Yeah,
>> that guy's great. He's phenomenal and he plays that part so exceptionally well. I
mean, it's just so good. You know,
people like him.
>> You know, people like him and you know, you're like, "This is a [ __ ] psycho, dude."
dude." >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. He's great at it.
>> And it's like in the eyes. It's always
in the eyes, you know? You see it in the eyes. It's like
eyes. It's like >> Yeah. He's really He's got a darkness in
>> Yeah. He's really He's got a darkness in him.
>> Mhm.
>> Faking it. He ain't faking it.
>> You know what else I just saw? I saw it on Peacock and I was like I was like I don't like I don't have Peacock. I'm
like I don't [ __ ] What are they? This
is like, you know, [ __ ] Kevin Hart in a bathtub interviewing. Like, I don't know what's on Peacock, you know? I love
Kevin, by the way. But like, it's like, you know what I mean? Like these
>> like fun silly. That's what I thought Peacock was or old NBC.
>> Yeah. reruns of like their old >> friends.
>> Yeah. I'm like, I don't want to [ __ ] it.
And I got uh recommended to watch The Day of the Jackal.
>> What's that?
>> [ __ ] fantastic.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. It's a thriller that is super high production and very cinematic, but the writing and the acting unbelievable.
>> Who's in it?
>> Eddie Redm, I think it's his name. Eddie
Redm is the lead in it. And um I don't know that many of the names of the other actors, but it's incredibly produced.
>> Is it a series?
>> Yeah.
>> How many episodes?
>> Se they're making season two now. I
think season one was 10 episodes.
>> Wow. $120 million budget for the season.
>> Whoa, I'm writing this down. Day of the Jackal.
>> The Day of the Jackal was excellent.
Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> This is This is it.
>> Skim through the trailer. Watch it.
>> Yeah. Let's skip. Let's watch this [ __ ] trailer.
>> It's [ __ ] That's That's Eddie.
It's really good, dude. I couldn't
believe how captivated I was by it.
Really, really well done. It's a like a, you know, espionage type of thriller.
>> Those are my favorite.
>> Mine, too.
But this is what I watch instead of, you know, we were talking about comedy.
>> I watch this [ __ ] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Me, too.
>> Yeah. He's really good in it, but so is everybody else. They're They're really,
everybody else. They're They're really, really good.
>> Okay. I want to see >> Can't recommend it enough.
>> Okay. I'm on it.
>> Really good.
>> Yeah. There's enough [ __ ] to watch these days. I'll tell you that. It's Do you
days. I'll tell you that. It's Do you watch Dave?
>> You're sick. What?
>> Do you watch Dave special?
>> Dave Chappelle? No, I didn't see it yet.
>> It's great.
>> Yeah.
>> I saw some clips.
>> It's great. I mean, it's it's it's vintage. It's Dave, you know, like it's
vintage. It's Dave, you know, like it's it hits >> he does what he does so well. There's
silliness, you know, >> seriousness.
>> Seriousness.
>> Yeah.
>> Some philosophy, lots of social commentary, provocative things, >> hilarious. It's It's good. It's really
>> hilarious. It's It's good. It's really
good.
>> I'll check it out. I'm sure it's going to be awesome. He's always awesome. He
never misses.
>> He doesn't I mean, and I He pissed a lot of people off, which is always fun.
>> Yeah. I saw he went after Bill Maher.
>> Yeah. Yeah. He said, "Fuck that dude."
It's very funny.
>> I never said this publicly about, "Fuck that dude."
that dude." >> Yeah. Yeah. It's very funny. But it's a
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's very funny. But it's a it's a good special, man. It's really
good.
>> It's funny.
>> Dave Dave's in top form. I love that for me, by the way, cuz so my special >> comes out Christmas Eve, right?
>> Mhm.
>> And and then six days later, Ricky Jerves comes out.
>> Oh.
>> And it was supposed that was supposed to be that was the release timeline, right?
They're like there's there's one earlier in the month and they're like you'll be Christmas Eve a week later um Ricky Derves. I was like cool. And then like 3
Derves. I was like cool. And then like 3 days prior I get a call before it's announced and they're like hey we got to tell you we're dropping a special un unannounced Chappelle special tonight
and I go great. And they're like they're like I know you know it's it's it's going to take up a lot of oxygen in the room obviously because it's it's Dave right? I go yeah I mean I understand.
right? I go yeah I mean I understand.
And I go, "You I go, you realize this is like being a musical artist and I've been working on my album and you guys are like, "We're so excited." And then you call me, you're like, "Just so you know, tomorrow we're releasing Radio Head's new album." And you're like,
"Thanks."
"Thanks." I mean, there's like there's nothing you can do. It's like the big the biggest
can do. It's like the big the biggest guy is coming out with it, you know? But
it's hilarious. He's great.
>> But people will watch it. It's only an hour and then they're going to want to watch more.
>> That's that's the Well, it's good.
>> That's one of the thoughts is they go like it it just makes standup more popular.
>> 100%. Yeah,
>> I think so. Yeah, standup is very popular right now.
>> It's incredibly popular.
>> Yeah, I mean there's more arena acts like I just saw Nate Bassi added a 300 p.m. show out here.
p.m. show out here.
>> Nate is on because but Nate's thing makes sense when you think about it.
When you start doing standup, there's this thing that happens when you're early on young doing standup and you start to like do spots. A lot of people will be like, "Hey, if you can curse
less, be clean." And you're like, "That's not who I am." And they're like, "All right, well," and they always say this thing like, "You'll get more opportun different opportunities will come to you if you're like that."
>> Right?
>> You're like, "Whatever. I just I don't do that." And when you're really funny
do that." And when you're really funny like Nate is and you get really good, what you see on the on the business side of it is that when he announces a show,
like when I announce a show, a couple might go like, "Let's go see him, right?
Like I'll buy they'll buy two tickets."
But when Nate announces a show, that couple will bring their children, their parents, the their in-laws, their neighbors. So,
neighbors. So, >> two tickets you can sell, he could sell 12 >> and everybody's going to enjoy it.
>> And they're all going to enjoy it.
>> Yeah. Even if even though it's just clean, it's always clean. It's
hilarious.
>> It's hilarious. He's really funny. But
he's really funny.
>> Gaffigan has that thing, too.
>> Definitely. The whole family can go.
>> Sebastian has that thing, too.
>> Like, you can bring anybody to see Sebastian >> and they'll they'll all have a good time. Yeah. But yeah, that he can do
time. Yeah. But yeah, that he can do three [ __ ] arena shows in a city.
It's crazy.
>> Yeah, it is nuts. But there's more people doing that now. Like I mentioned, Sebastian, you, Bert, Tony. I mean,
there's Shane. Shane's doing a football arena.
>> That's crazy.
>> A stadium. He's doing like 90,000 people.
>> Yeah. Lincoln Financial, I think it is.
just there's people doing that now where there's so many of them where when we were coming up the only people that had done it were Dne and Dice Clay.
>> Dice. Yeah,
>> it was Dice Clay and Dane Cook.
>> And for that you have to just you go like that is the internet man. The
internet made standup global.
>> Well, the internet made Dne, right?
Right. That is that's how it was like he he got huge from MySpace. He was the first guy.
>> Fact is so many of us can move those kinds of tickets. Oh yeah.
>> It's a it's cuz it's global. I mean,
when it was just like, "Hey, catch my special at Comedy Central at 9:00 on Friday."
Friday." >> It's not going to have the same reach.
>> Right. Right. And it's just clips, too.
Clips get shared and then there's so much word of mouth.
>> It's like that's the one good thing about social media is if something comes out and people like it, whether it's a new special that dropped or a new song or anything, it just gets shared.
>> It just gets shared. Crazy. Yeah. And
things just they just take off.
>> I know. I it's it's why I never I did 40 arenas this year.
>> Like I I never I was never thinking that would be a thing, you know.
>> I remember when I met you.
>> Yeah.
>> I met you in 2007. We did that uh Real Men of Comedy Tour together.
>> Yeah. We I met you in Phoenix. We did
the that little Hollywood theater, which I love that.
>> The Celebrity Theater.
>> Celebrity Theater. Sorry. That's right.
>> That place is awesome.
>> It's one of my favorites >> in the round. It spins.
>> It's awesome. That place rules. And I
always love Phoenix, period. They're
fun. That's a fun place.
>> Yeah, that's a really good place. Yeah,
I went back there on this tour, too. I
went to the uh I did the the big arena there this time. It was [ __ ] amazing.
It was one of my favorite shows of this tour.
>> Yeah, it's Phoenix rules. Yeah, I've
done the arena in Phoenix, too. It's
[ __ ] fun, man. They're fun.
>> It's a fun city.
>> Yeah, because they don't have much culture, but they do a lot of blow.
>> They do. They like to party.
>> They party hard. Phoenix, Arizona just parties hard.
>> They party hard.
>> Well, it's like, think about the people that had to settle that place first. And
you got Cowboys and Mexicans, just [ __ ] wild people. It is, dude. And
then you got Scottdale, which is all rich people.
>> I remember we went to dinner like that, I think the night before, just like a steakhouse. And we were just like we
steakhouse. And we were just like we were like observing that when you go to dinner at a like the steakhouse in Phoenix, it feels like an afterparty, but it's just dinner. Do you know what I
mean? Like the vibe in there is that
mean? Like the vibe in there is that people are having a [ __ ] good time.
>> They're partying.
>> That's what Phoenix feels like.
>> Yeah. I I always liked it because it was not Hollywood, you know? Yeah.
>> In every way.
>> It was just not Hollywood that those people had no preconceived ideas of their own celebrity. They didn't want to become famous. Like the problem with LA
become famous. Like the problem with LA is the entire culture is wrapped around the possibility that you might become famous. Yeah. and that everybody really
famous. Yeah. and that everybody really secretly wants to become famous and some people might make it and some people won't. But the reason that they came
won't. But the reason that they came there in the first place is to be famous because they wanted to be famous.
>> Phoenix, they just want Coke.
>> When I get some Coke to my [ __ ] party, I'm playing golf in the day and I'm doing Coke and I'm having a good [ __ ] time.
>> They're wild people.
>> That theater thing, too. There's um I I don't know if I'm right about this, but I've been told that there's only two maybe three theaters left in the round in the country. That's the only one that I know of.
>> Well, there's the one in Long Island that I also did that was it's so [ __ ] fun.
>> Which one's that?
>> Westbury Music Hall, I think it's called. Is that what it's called?
called. Is that what it's called?
>> I've heard of that place. I didn't know that was in the round, too.
>> That's in the round. It is so [ __ ] fun.
>> The round rules.
>> I just did it. I did it a couple months ago. It was one of the most fun shows of
ago. It was one of the most fun shows of the entire tour.
>> I try to explain to people who've never done it like, "Oh, arena." I'm like, "I'm telling you, it's oddly intimate >> because everybody's facing everybody else.
>> We're all in this together. It's not
just a mass of people staring at a stage right?
>> We're all wrapped up together. It's
cooler.
>> It's cool.
>> Yeah. It's a better vibe. It feels
better.
>> You would love this theater.
>> I'm sure.
>> Yeah. It was It's [ __ ] rad.
>> I love that Phoenix one. That one rules.
But do do any show that you could do in the round. It's like the first time I
the round. It's like the first time I did it, I remember. I don't understand.
Where do I move?
>> I think the first one I did was when we met.
>> Yeah, >> cuz I was also >> might have been my first one, too.
>> I was kind of like intimidated. I was
like, "What the [ __ ] dude?" And then somebody told me once, it might have been Louis told me that I think it was him that told me when I was doing the like going into arenas, he's like,
"You're your instinct will be to stay in the middle, but you should go further out to the edges because when you're further out to the outside of of the stage that's in the round, you're
actually open to more people. Does that
make sense?"
>> Yes.
>> Cuz like if you're on this edge of the round stage, more people can see you over here, >> right? And you're closer to them.
>> right? And you're closer to them.
>> You're closer to them, too.
>> Yeah. It's more intimate. If you're in the middle, it's like you're all standoffish. You have so much. You can
standoffish. You have so much. You can
come closer to me. Yeah. Why are you all the way over there?
>> Yeah. That's right.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Walking around, too, is fun.
>> That to me is I told somebody is what I think makes my performance better is that I'm a naturally kind of standill guy.
>> Yeah.
>> But the round makes me move. Even though
it's subtle movement, that keeps you more engaged >> because there's a constant movement to it. Even if it's slow,
it. Even if it's slow, >> it's fun.
>> It is a fun thing.
>> Yeah, it's fun. And it is weird that so many of us get to do that now.
>> It's so bizarre.
>> It wasn't It wasn't the case at all.
>> It's so bizarre.
>> I did some nutty ones with Dave. We did
uh the Tacoma Dome. That was 25,000 people.
>> [ __ ] crazy.
>> It was so so nuts. It was so nuts. It
was so many people, man.
>> That's so many. That's so many.
>> It's very strange.
>> I did a couple with you guys. I did um I did New Orleans with you guys.
>> Oh, that's right. Yeah, that was fun.
>> And I think we did Nashville or something or Memphis together, too.
>> Yeah, I think it was Nashville.
>> The most fun one though, ever, this will I think this will always be in my memory is when we did the like Vegas is back.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> In the round.
>> Oh yeah, that was fun >> at the MGM Arena.
>> Yeah, that was fun.
>> And we were un I was unannounced.
>> Yeah.
>> And a couple other people were too. I
forget who was on that, but I remember the absolute like pandemonium of that place where I was like shaking cuz cuz it was like things had been shut down
>> and they're like this show is back. The
shows are back and this is the show to open Vegas again.
>> I don't think we'll ever feel that again.
>> Not like that. Hopefully not because that means that the world went crazy again.
>> That's exactly right. And it was like you can't duplicate that. You can't
duplicate it. It's almost like when you have an improv on like an off-the-cuff line of something that just happened in like you can't manufacture that, right?
>> You said the thing because this happened right?
>> And like the world had shut down. Yeah.
>> And they're like here's a stand-up show in in the round in the arena. Joe, Dave,
>> and the crowd was just like I mean it was like a fever pitch.
>> It was so There was so many people hanging out backstage. Remember that?
>> Oh my god.
>> There was so many people. I was like I've never seen this many celebrities at our shows.
>> There was there was a room. They were
like, "This is the red room." And this was backstage. And there was like 200
was backstage. And there was like 200 people in there.
>> Oh. So packed.
>> And I brought you in there because you had didn't know about it either. I was
like, "Have you been in here?" And
you're like, "What the [ __ ] is all this?"
this?" >> It's a whole extra room.
>> A whole extra room of like just people hanging out. Yeah.
hanging out. Yeah.
>> Yeah. A whole extra room of like comics that I hadn't seen in years cuz everybody was kind of celebrating the fact that we could do shows again.
>> It was the best.
>> They all came out.
>> That was a such a special show.
>> Yeah. I mean, there was boxers there and rappers. It was like people were out.
rappers. It was like people were out.
It's like there's something to do again.
It was like there was a a feeling in the air.
>> It was so And people some people were still scared. There's still people
still scared. There's still people wearing masks.
>> Yeah.
>> It was >> It was July. I remember that. It was
July.
>> Some people just didn't want to let it go. They were still connected to this
go. They were still connected to this idea that we could all die at any moment.
>> Yeah, that's true.
>> I still see those people.
>> Yeah. They're still in some places.
>> Yeah. Some people that got broken. They
got broken.
they got broken. The stress of that whole thing >> was also kind of depends on who you were around too, right? Oh, yeah. Because I
mean I think I you could put me with certain people then I would have been even more apprehensive.
>> Well, that was the thing that I felt about coming here like really quickly that people here were not nearly as scared as people are in California. The
whole attitude of the government here was very different. They were like things should stay open. I remember I went and met with the governor and had dinner with him and he was like, you know, we got to let people live their lives. They need freedom.
lives. They need freedom.
>> Yeah.
>> Like you should be able to make your own decisions doing this. I was like, yeah, I agree. And this is like before the
I agree. And this is like before the vaccine.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. And people had already started doing shows out here. We started doing shows out here early. We tested
everybody. Remember we did those stub shows.
>> Oh, that's right.
>> Yeah. Dave Dave and I did these shows at Stubs. We did a whole series of shows,
Stubs. We did a whole series of shows, which is an outdoor venue.
>> Yeah. And we tested the whole crowd.
>> So we tested these people for like >> an hour before the show. Everybody
queued up. Everybody got tested. And we
only wound up removing like two different people that were positive.
>> That's it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Most people knew that they weren't sick, >> you know, and we weren't doing PCR, right, which is the one that really gets a lot of false positives.
They found out recently there was an estimate that PCR testing the false positives might have been as high as 86%.
>> 86.
>> Yeah. The guy who invented the PCR testing, Carrie Mullis, said it should never be used to detect diseases. It's
like it's not what it's for. And he said if you ramp the cycles up high enough, you could find almost anything in people.
>> I did something once is shameful. I was
uh I had to test for like a trip somewhere and then I had to sub I had to like do it on a Zoom with somebody >> and it came out positive. So I threw it out the window and then they were like
where is it? I go my kid just threw it out the window >> and they're like what was it? I was like I don't remember. I I'll do it again.
And then I just waited a week again.
I remember the second time I tested positive. So, I tested positive once.
positive. So, I tested positive once.
That was the whole horse dewormer CNN thing. And then the second time I tested
thing. And then the second time I tested positive, I didn't even know I had it. I
couldn't believe it was real. I came in here sniffily. I came in here straight
here sniffily. I came in here straight from the gym and I said, "I I got the sniffles." I I said to Mercy, the nurse,
sniffles." I I said to Mercy, the nurse, I said, "Uh, I go, "Must be COVID." Just
joking around. And she goes, "Actually, you're positive." I'm like, "No [ __ ]
you're positive." I'm like, "No [ __ ] way." Like, "No way."
way." Like, "No way."
>> Cuz you felt Yeah.
>> fine. So, I got IV vitamin D drip, NAD, the whole deal. 24 hours later, I was negative.
>> That NAD shit's amazing.
>> Amazing.
>> Amazing. And also, I'll say this, and this is I I'm telling you, I have, knock on wood, I have not gotten sick in a while.
>> Oh, yeah. You're healthy now.
>> I'm healthy.
>> That's how it works.
>> That's how it works.
But during the movie I did over the summer and during production on series the first season one of of my show, there were days like I remember the
first day we were shooting Bad Thoughts season one. I was getting a cold and I
season one. I was getting a cold and I did NAD like 500 milligrams or whatever >> like the high dose three days in a row >> and I was no long and I had never
experienced anything like that cuz I was the type of person where like I get a cold and I am [ __ ] for like weeks.
>> Mhm.
>> And then the next time that I felt this like I'm like you know you feel you know you're like oh I'm getting sick.
>> It would I I did I was like I'm doing the NAD thing again. three days in a row just jamming that [ __ ] into me like high dosage completely went away.
>> That's crazy.
>> It like it didn't dip into like now you're really sick. It just was like I'm getting sick. I'm not sick anymore.
getting sick. I'm not sick anymore.
>> Yeah, that was part of my COVID routine when I the first time I had COVID I did NAD along with IV vitamins. I don't even think I mentioned NAD when I did that
little video that went viral. But that
was uh I I recommend that to anybody whenever they get sick. Uh, it's
unbelievable.
>> High dose of vitamin C is amazing, too.
>> Amazing.
>> I can't believe it.
>> Yeah, highdose vitamins introvenously when you're not feeling well is phenomenal because it gives your body all the weapons that it needs to fight off whatever the [ __ ] it's dealing with.
>> I feel like doing it tomorrow.
>> You should do it tomorrow.
>> Yeah, >> you should do it all the time. You know
what else you should start doing? Like I
told you, red light bed.
>> I know. You've been on that for a minute.
>> Yeah. It's amazing. It's incredible.
>> You said it helps your vision.
>> It helped my vision 100%.
>> I don't even understand that. Well, red
light skin stuff.
>> Red light helps gets collagen or something.
>> Let's put that into our sponsor, Perplexity. What is the uh benefits that
Perplexity. What is the uh benefits that red light has on your vision? Why does
it work? But it works 100%. I could tell you for a fact. There's two things that I've done. One thing, I've taken a lot
I've done. One thing, I've taken a lot of supplements for eyesight. Uh I always talk about this company, Pure Encapsulations. I have no affiliation
Encapsulations. I have no affiliation with them. I just buy their stuff.
with them. I just buy their stuff.
There's they have a thing called macular support. It's yeah, I take that stuff.
support. It's yeah, I take that stuff.
So, I take that stuff and I've been very consistent with that.
>> Um, it has a bunch of nutri I showed it to Huberman and he went over the list and he was like, "Oh, this is all great stuff."
stuff." >> Um, I take that and I do red light multiple days a week and it took a while. Uh, in the beginning I thought it
while. Uh, in the beginning I thought it was actually making my eyesight worse cuz I was like >> cuz your eyes are covered during it, right?
>> No, I keep them open.
>> Keep your eyes open.
>> Red light. Yeah. Red light therapy using deep red wavelengths around 60 670 Nm. I
don't know whether nanometers shows promise in improving declining vision by boosting mitochondrial function in the retinal cells. Studies indicate benefits
retinal cells. Studies indicate benefits particularly for age related vision loss. That's me. Macular degeneration
loss. That's me. Macular degeneration
and other eye conditions. Morning
exposure appears most effective with effects lasting up to a week. Um so I do it I try to do it three times a week.
>> How long do you do it for?
>> I do it 20 minutes. It says short sessions like 3 minutes weekly can enhance color contrast vision by 17 to 20%. adults over 34 with greater gains
20%. adults over 34 with greater gains in older participants. That's me.
>> I'm getting it.
>> It's It makes a big difference. Uh
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It works. I'm telling you, it works 100% with me. I used to struggle reading the
with me. I used to struggle reading the screen sometimes. It would be kind of
screen sometimes. It would be kind of blurry. for you. I have to like Jamie,
blurry. for you. I have to like Jamie, make it bigger. Now I I can see things way better than I used to be.
>> I wear glasses.
>> When I said Jamie, make it bigger. I
used to say I used to >> I wear I wear glasses all the time now.
>> I don't need them when I look at text messages anymore. I don't need them when
messages anymore. I don't need them when I read emails anymore. And I don't need them on my computer anymore, which is a big one.
>> Because I always used it when I wrote.
And then I realized the other day like, oh my god, I'm writing and I don't have my glasses on.
>> Joey Diaz will be so happy if I >> What are you doing with those [ __ ] glasses?
>> You're wearing your glasses with >> I called him up today. I I go I'm doing a podcast with security. He goes, he met Pepe Le Pew over there in France and now he's making quissants. Who's this
[ __ ] guy with his glasses?
>> Glasses. He's always on me for that.
>> I mean, that's Joey.
>> That's Joey. It's not Pepe Lew.
>> His name is Gian Basta. And uh it's Italian. It's an Italian bakery. Yes.
Italian. It's an Italian bakery. Yes.
>> Well, it's a problem. It is a problem.
>> That chocolate croissant you gave me is a real problem.
>> Telling you.
>> Buttery and flaky and perfect.
>> It's perfect, dude. It's why I fell in love.
>> I like a little more chocolate in there.
I can I can tell him. I can tell.
>> A little more chocolate. Just a little.
Don't be stingy with the chocolate.
>> I fell in love with that chocolate croissant when I lived in LA. And that
you know that guy was in my neighborhood.
>> Oh, >> that's how this all started.
>> That's probably >> And I would walk down there and sometimes I would buy like two dozen and then I would walk I would walk back to my house and I would give away croissants to people walking down the street. I'd be like, "You got to try
street. I'd be like, "You got to try these."
these." >> Just regular people.
>> Regular people. I didn't even know them.
I just got these croissants.
>> What if they thought you were psycho? I
mean, I guess they didn't, but they they would take them and I would I mean, I didn't give them all away. I would I would eat a lot of them, too. But
>> I stayed in touch with this guy and I would every once in a while I would go there and I would I would get some of their pastries and I would do like an Instagram video like, "Hey, I'm at this
place." And I would just say it and then
place." And I would just say it and then I became friends with them and they go, "Hey, you know, when you do that, there were like a hundred people came today."
I was like, "Oh, that's cool." It was just like a friend. There was no business really. I was just doing it
business really. I was just doing it because I liked it. We always stayed in touch and I moved here and I go, "Oh, when I'm in LA, I'm going to try to stop by and see you guys." Like that kind of thing. And we stayed in touch and I
thing. And we stayed in touch and I always be like, "It would be awesome if you opened one in Austin."
>> That conversation continued and then eventually we talked like, "Hey, what if we really did this?" And that conversation started like over a year ago. And then our our fixed location
ago. And then our our fixed location will open in March, but we have a popup right now.
>> I just don't know how you have the time for all this.
>> Well, I'm not Here's the thing. I'm I'm
not the one like I don't bake, right?
>> You know, I'm I'm the I'm a business partner in this and I I market it in that I promote it, but the the easiest thing is to market something that's that's fantastic,
>> right? And I I actually thought about
>> right? And I I actually thought about the fact that I was like for me this is like like people trust your opinion on one of the reasons I think that on it
was successful with you is that they're like this guy knows workouts he knows vitamins. He knows
like they they you have credibility in that. You know what I mean? Like having
that. You know what I mean? Like having
credibility in something is a is is really important for me. It's like
>> if there's one thing I completely trust myself on is if I'm like this tastes good. I I don't doubt it. I'm like,
good. I I don't doubt it. I'm like,
"This is good. I know what it's good.
I've eaten at the best restaurants all over the world." And this is like my favorite one of my favorite things has always been croissants and and things like this. So, when I had his and I knew
like this. So, when I had his and I knew they were amazing. It was like there's no like I'm selling it. I'm I'm not like being like, "Ah, you should, you know, I'm not I'm making up this shit's amazing." So, all I do is go like, "It's
amazing." So, all I do is go like, "It's open. It's [ __ ] amazing." And we're
open. It's [ __ ] amazing." And we're selling We've sold out every day. We've
never not sold out. Well, once you eat one of them, I get it.
>> Yeah, it's [ __ ] And and he's always coming up with like I at first I was like, we're opening a croissant place, but he's doing like, you know, uh like the homemade faukatcha bread, Italian
sandwiches. He does homemade pizza. It's
sandwiches. He does homemade pizza. It's
all every day and he's whatever like inspires him, he makes that. It's all
he's amazing. So, it's like the easiest thing to be like, "Yeah, this is this is my bakery >> food."
>> food." >> Yeah, I [ __ ] love it.
>> Such a truck. I've thought about doing that with an Italian deli.
>> Yeah, >> I've I've talked to Giovani very briefly. Giovani Italian deli. Yeah,
briefly. Giovani Italian deli. Yeah,
that place. Opening up one of those out here. How incredible would that be?
here. How incredible would that be?
>> Incredible.
>> Those sandwiches I sent me and Joe D.
Rosa, we send each other sandwiches.
>> Yeah, Joe has his sandwich place.
>> His sandwich place is great. Joey Roses
is [ __ ] great. I sent him this place in um in Toronto. God, what is it called? Something crude. Hold on a
called? Something crude. Hold on a second. I'll I'll find it.
second. I'll I'll find it.
Oh, what happened to Oh, the iPhone made everything different. Where'd you put it
everything different. Where'd you put it on? [ __ ] Search in the bottom. That's
on? [ __ ] Search in the bottom. That's
it.
>> Uh, Crude. It's in Toronto. The
sandwiches.
>> Go to their Instagram. If you can go that where it says Crudeau Pizza up there, that's their Instagram.
>> Go down to their Instagram and find some of their [ __ ] sandwiches, bro. Look
at these [ __ ] sandwiches.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Bro, look at these sandwiches with their homemade bread. Look at these are
homemade bread. Look at these are insane. And the bread's got a nice
insane. And the bread's got a nice little char on it. And they the bread comes out piping hot from the oven and they make the sandwich on this piping hot bread.
>> Yeah.
>> Show me one of them videos where they're pulling the sandwiches out and making them because there's a few where you get to see how hot the bread is. Scroll down
a little bit. Um Oh, no. Stop. Stop.
Stop. Stop. Go up. Go. No, no, no. Back
there. You Oh, look at that, Tommy. Look
at No, no. You missed it. Watch this.
When he cuts it open. Oh, and this.
Yeah.
>> Oh, look at that. The mortar. Look at
this.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> Oh my god. Look how insane that is. This
is my drug. Like, this is If I have a problem with food, it's this. Yeah.
>> It's Italian cold cut sandwiches and pasta.
>> Yeah.
>> Those are the problems. I have a real problem with not eating that. Like,
olive oil on it. Look how he seals it up. Look at this.
up. Look at this.
>> Oh, look how it comes out of the oven, bro. Are you kidding me?
bro. Are you kidding me?
>> You know what my guy started making now?
like he's just on a whim he's like I made lasagna today.
>> Oh no.
>> So he's doing and then he's doing like different versions of it. Did one with like brisket in it like just crazy things and they it just goes.
>> Of course.
>> Yeah. It's called by the way it's called Chicho Bomba which is what you call the name of it. Yeah. It's the name of the bakery. It's called Chicho Bomba which
bakery. It's called Chicho Bomba which is what you call a little fat ass kid in Italy >> cuz bombas like explode. So like when it gets a little fat ass.
>> That's funny. It's called a fat ass.
>> Yeah. It's called a little fat ass.
>> Little fat ass kid.
>> Yeah. That's hilarious. Great idea,
dude.
>> Yeah, he's he's he's awesome. Him and
Marlo.
>> It's hard staying thin, isn't it?
>> Especially now you're in the 180s.
>> It's It is.
>> You could let it go. You could let it go.
>> Yeah, I could let it go.
>> Oh, yeah. Look at you. Look at you. They
got excited about letting it go.
>> Yeah, let it go.
>> I own a bakery.
>> Yeah. Just [ __ ] not text your trainer back. [ __ ] you, man. [ __ ] you.
back. [ __ ] you, man. [ __ ] you.
>> And when I stopped by there, too, you know, it's like I have access to all of this.
>> Yeah. You could eat free.
>> Oh, yeah. And then
>> whatever you want. You can have them make you things. I give I give most I take a bite of things and I'm like that's delicious and then I stop myself.
I'll let myself have a full thing, but not every day, dude. Not even not even every few days. Like once a week, maybe.
>> When I used to come home from the store, uh two things were a problem. One of
them was Jerry's Famous Deli.
>> I would go remember Jerry's Famous Deli.
They're gone now. Isn't that amazing?
>> Jerry's Deliy's gone.
>> Jerry's Deliy's gone. There was one in Woodland Hills. That's gone. That was
Woodland Hills. That's gone. That was
the one I used to go to all the time. I
think I think they're all gone now. I
don't know if any of them still exist.
Hopefully, one still exists. Jerry's
Famous Deli was [ __ ] great. They had
the best chicken noodle soup, man. It
ruled. And they had pastrarami Rubins.
Oh, pastrami Rubins with steak fries.
They were so good. And if I was hungry coming home from the store, that would be the spot. The other spot that was a real problem was crispy cream [ __ ] donuts.
>> I would drive by and I'd see that hot sign on.
>> Cheeseburgers, too, are a problem. In
and out. It's a problem.
>> That's a problem.
>> That's a problem.
>> There was that one in West Hollywood that I used to love. I forget the name of that place. It was right near where I was working in postp production. The
burgers were [ __ ] unbelievable.
>> Another problem was Caners.
>> Can I think that place is still open?
Open 24 hours a day.
>> That was post show fun.
>> Always great post. I told you this before cuz you know the power of delusion is is strong >> is that when I would tour with you this is like
I would say like 2009 10 uh Delta Terminal used to be terminal 5 at LAX.
Sometimes we would get back and we we would land because we would land the morning, right? We did the show the
morning, right? We did the show the night before.
>> Mhm.
>> They had a like a little deli bakery coffee place that had really good chocolate croissants.
>> Oh, I remember that place. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And sometimes we would we'd be walk by and you'd get one. I was like, "Well, Joe got one. I should get one." Like,
"He's in shape. I'm in shape." Like,
"This isn't bad." Like I just tell myself like, "You can eat this."
>> And cuz you would have you love those. I
remember those.
>> Chocolate croissants rule. That's why
when you brought this one, I was like, "Oh, that that's a problem."
>> It's a problem.
>> But they weren't as good as that.
>> No. [ __ ] no.
>> The ones at LAX were pretty good. They
were okay.
>> This is like a It's not No [ __ ] This is like a three-day process. That's how
long it takes for them to make a bachelor. Yeah.
bachelor. Yeah.
>> Yeah. like proofing the bread and it stays in this cabinet and they pull I mean it's a whole process and and it's he has a he makes like folateella which is like it's >> like he said it that way.
>> Oh and bombolone you know like just like incredible pastries man that like when you see them you're just like >> don't get fat >> bro it's so easy to get fat. Getting
fat's a giant problem.
>> The older you get you're just like this could be real easy.
>> Especially if you got obligations, you got things to do and you're you're tired. I need structure, dude. That's
tired. I need structure, dude. That's
what I've learned. I need structure.
>> I need peace and quiet. So, I I like working out by myself.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I don't I mean, I like working out with comics sometimes. We do those comic workouts here. Those are those are
workouts here. Those are those are really fun.
>> But, uh for me, like my time working out when I'm like suffering by myself. I I
need that.
>> Yeah.
>> I need by myself. I don't want anybody talking to me about what they saw on the news and asking me quotes. You know,
what's JD Vance like? Like I don't no I'm here to [ __ ] get after it.
>> Yeah. I just I my problem >> battling demons.
>> One of my problems is when I get and I know this from Pat like you just realized you have patterns.
>> Mhm.
>> Is that when I get to like a a good place and >> relax.
>> Yeah. And I do it when people are like you look good.
>> Yeah. And then I go oh I'm I'm done.
You know, that's that's been my pattern.
>> Yeah.
>> So, this time I've just been like, >> do not accept that thought.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, >> Yeah. You can't.
>> Yeah. You can't.
>> There's no end.
>> There's no end.
>> Finish line.
>> Yeah. It
>> doesn't exist. Every day is a new unique little battle with your inner [ __ ] >> It's really the truth. It is the truth.
>> That's what it is. Every day you wake up, you go to war with your inner [ __ ] >> That's why it's good to beat it early.
Beat that [ __ ] down early. Get in the cold water. freeze your [ __ ] dick
cold water. freeze your [ __ ] dick off. Yeah. Get that [ __ ] workout in.
off. Yeah. Get that [ __ ] workout in.
Getting this on afterwards.
>> And then you're good.
>> I'm good today. Today.
>> Today.
>> But the food is the bigger challenge for me. Like I won't say that like workouts
me. Like I won't say that like workouts aren't hard. They're hard
aren't hard. They're hard >> and like I like it. I like the challenge.
>> Staying on top of like how to eat is is the bigger challenge.
>> Well, there's a problem too with um all these new medical advancements. And one
of them is there's a new peptide that they're they're showing is essentially like exercise in an injection.
>> Is that sloop?
>> I don't know what it is. I I read some article about it like quite a while ago and I I sent it to Brighgam. I go, "What is this?" He's like, "Dude, there's so
is this?" He's like, "Dude, there's so much stuff on the horizon. So much
groundbreaking stuff." But you're you're basically going to be able to get the benefits of exercise in a peptide. So
it'll trick your body to think you exercise.
>> I mean, Sloop does that. Is that what it is? That's one of the ones that does.
is? That's one of the ones that does.
It's in a pill form, right? I haven't
heard about it.
>> It's called sloop.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Do you taken that?
>> I have taken it. Yeah. I don't have any.
>> What did I do for you? You got some on you?
>> I'm the Listen, I'm I'm like a crack addict. If you tell me something will be
addict. If you tell me something will be good, I'll be like, "Cool. I'll inject
like 40 things into myself."
>> Yeah.
>> What does this loop do?
>> Well, they they they did they tested it on mice and found that by giving it to mice, uh, they decreased their body fat and increased muscle, lean mass, >> doing nothing.
>> Doing nothing.
>> Wow. And so then they have started to that's it right there. Sloop 332. Yeah.
>> Okay. In obese mouse models, Sloop 332 reduced fat gain by up to 10fold compared to controls promoted 12% body weight loss and enhanced metabolic function without altering appetite or
activity levels.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's exercise.
>> It's exercise, dude.
>> Exercise in a peptide. And you took it in a pill?
>> Yeah.
>> And so what did it feel like when you took it?
>> Nothing.
>> Nothing. I felt nothing.
>> I'm getting that [ __ ] tomorrow. Yeah.
I'm on it. Let's go.
>> Let's go.
>> What happened with your pecker? Did it
get excited?
>> Hell yeah. Rock hard 247.
>> That's what That's what these goddamn things do. And you can just buy that
things do. And you can just buy that stuff.
>> Um >> or is that a prescription thing?
>> I don't think it's a prescription. No,
you can just buy it. But I think you just have to like >> go to a compound pharmacy or something.
>> That kind of place. Yeah.
>> Yeah. They're trying to shut those places down.
>> Are they FDA?
>> They want to own all that stuff.
>> There you go.
>> There it is. Bam. Amazon.
>> All over Amazon.
>> All over Amazon.
>> Good or not, I don't know. Just check
your own sources. One of the things that I've read about Amazon is that there's a lot of fake supplements on Amazon.
>> Are there?
>> Yeah, because how does that work? How
are they even getting up on Amazon?
>> I think there Well, that's a whole different thing. But like they're just
different thing. But like they're just like copying the labels and stuff and making it look like it. So
>> I've heard that's a problem with Pure Encapsulations. So I started buying
Encapsulations. So I started buying their stuff from their website because I read that >> because I read that like a high percentage was fraud. I don't know if you've ever researched this, but
apparently when I was in Abu Dhabi, they were like they have what's considered some of like the cleanest vitamins >> on like people go there just to get vitamins in the UAE.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Like the like really high level vitamins for some reason. And I don't know what the thought is on that, but like a lot of people that travel in that region go to UAE to get their vitamins.
>> That's interesting.
>> I don't know if their standard is just higher. Well, they have so much money.
higher. Well, they have so much money.
They do have a lot of money.
>> And they also, you know, Shake Taknon is a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. Like a
legit one.
>> Bad [ __ ] >> Yeah. Henzo Gracie Black belt. And he's
>> Yeah. Henzo Gracie Black belt. And he's
the one that created this Abu Dhabi combat club that the championship.
>> He's also like incredibly fit. Like his
cardio is out. I I was talking to someone.
>> No, he's a legit black belt. He's he's a Henzo Gracie black belt, which like you know there's levels of black belts out there where you you heard about a guy got a black belt from this guy. I never
heard of that guy. I don't know who that guy is, but I'm sure it was good. Yeah.
>> And then you hear about someone got a black belt from Henzo. You're like,
"Oh." Oh.
>> Like Guy Richie is a Henzo Gracie Black Belt.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Guy Richie is super legit, man.
Yeah. I know guys have rolled with him.
They're like, "Dude, he's legit."
>> Yeah.
>> Which is I think it's like a Jake Paul thing. Like you don't think a [ __ ]
thing. Like you don't think a [ __ ] Jake Paul you can't fight.
>> What's his name? Isn't um the guy from Married with Children.
>> Ed O'Neal. Legit Gracie Black Belt.
Yeah. He got his black belt from Horian or I think Hian or um at least that school. He got it from Gracie Torrance.
school. He got it from Gracie Torrance.
>> That was a surprise one to me. I was
like "Really?"
>> Oh, he's legit, too. Yeah. I had I sat next to him once on a plane randomly and we spent the entire flight just talking about jiu-jitsu. He was so excited.
about jiu-jitsu. He was so excited.
>> Oh, that's cool.
>> There he is.
>> Yes. Uh 2007. Yeah. Hory and Gracie. I
was right. Two decades of training under Gracie. That is another
Gracie. That is another >> 42. Wow. That's another very legit black
>> 42. Wow. That's another very legit black belt. You get a black belt from Horian,
belt. You get a black belt from Horian, like you have a real black belt. But he
was he's a big guy, man. He was a football player back in the day.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah, >> that's awesome, man.
>> Yeah, he's legit. So, we were just, like I said, we were just randomly on a plane and and we just started talking about jiu-jitsu. We were both like little
jiu-jitsu. We were both like little kids.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. That's cool.
>> Then I ran into him another time randomly in Hawaii in the ocean. I was
in the ocean. I ran into him. That's
cool. I was like, "Hey, what are you doing man?
He's great. I think he's a very nice guy.
>> Very nice guy, too. Easy guy to talk to.
Like regular person.
>> You know, there's certain actors I feel like we have to get through this >> little wall of are you cool? Is this is this okay to talk to you? Are you be mean to me? Like, is this >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> You know, it's like a thing. And they
think they get weird around comics, too, because they they want to wind up in your act. I got so lucky uh doing that
your act. I got so lucky uh doing that movie over the summer in that I had like the best actors like as far as like just fun awesome people.
>> Oh, that's nice.
>> You know what I mean? Like
>> did you know they were fun before you work with them?
>> No. And that's and and you know what was funny is that they're regular act like they go from like set to set to set, >> right?
>> And they kept telling me they were like, you know, this is like really special what's happening here. And I'd be like, what do you mean? They're like, this is awesome. Everyone's having the best time
awesome. Everyone's having the best time every day. Everyone's hanging out. We're
every day. Everyone's hanging out. We're
all going to dinner together. We're
hanging out on weekends. Everyone likes
each other. It was like the best experience.
>> I think actors sometimes are so competitive with each other.
>> Yeah. We didn't none of that. People
were just And when when you do have a cool vibe like we had, everyone's just trying to make every scene better, right?
>> You know, and like you want the guy to be like I want him to be super funny in this cuz it's going to be funny in the movie.
>> Well, it's like stereotypes get created because of the worst people in whatever category you're talking about.
And if you're talking about actors, it's not all of them. Some of them are really cool.
>> Yeah, of course.
>> Like Chris Pratt, I've hung out with that guy a bunch of times. He's really
cool.
>> Yeah.
>> Easy to hang out with. Giant movie star like but like so normal, >> right?
>> I went elk hunting with that guy.
>> Really?
>> Yes.
>> Super cool guy to everybody. Like easy
to talk to. We're eating dinner together, all hanging out with guys.
[ __ ] so normal.
>> It's rare.
>> Just happens to be a famous actor.
That's so normal. But there's guys like that that you meet him and you go, "Oh, okay." Okay. Like Woody Harlson, the
okay." Okay. Like Woody Harlson, the [ __ ] nicest guy, man.
>> Woody seems awesome.
>> So easy to hang. You can't get a hold of him. He's got no phone. He's got no
him. He's got no phone. He's got no email.
>> You had And I'm just a huge fan, but I saw a clip. You had uh Billy Bob Thornton on.
>> Oh, he's the best, >> dude. I can watch that guy do [ __ ]
>> dude. I can watch that guy do [ __ ] anything.
>> The best to talk to, too. Like so easy to talk to.
>> And the other one, I think you had him on, too. But I always see this guy in
on, too. But I always see this guy in interviews, and it's always like I end up sharing it with everybody, is Ethan Hawk.
>> Ethan Hawk's great. I mean, his his his wisdom and like his philosophy on on art and on life. I'm like, this guy's like a messiah. He's just like so fascinating
messiah. He's just like so fascinating to listen to.
>> Well, he's a real artist, you know, really. And loves like I I asked him
really. And loves like I I asked him this question because I' I've always wanted to know like is this the same thing as like being in the zone and other things? Like what happens when
other things? Like what happens when you're doing a scene? Why is it so believable? I know you're Ethan Hawk. I
believable? I know you're Ethan Hawk. I
know that's Denzel Washington. I know
that you guys are acting, but yet I'm in. Yeah,
in. Yeah, >> I'm in. Like, what is that?
>> Yeah.
>> He talked about that. That is It is like what it is with standup. It's like a hypnosis. It's like they're hypnotized.
hypnosis. It's like they're hypnotized.
They're so locked in and they believe so much what they're saying that you believe it too, >> right? It's it's um it's truth. It's
>> right? It's it's um it's truth. It's
that the the scene reads as true.
They're not making, you know, there's there's there's times when you're watching something and you're like, I don't buy that. And that's why you step out. You step out cuz you're like,
out. You step out cuz you're like, that's not >> it's performative.
>> Yeah. You realize that someone is performing rather than being like really locked into it, whatever it is.
>> Somebody said one time, and I totally agree, is like one of the reasons why we revere Denzel so much is like every time he's on screen, you believe every choice that he makes. Yes. You know, you're
just like, I believe this.
>> Yeah. There's a only a few people like that, you know. Claire Danes is definitely one of them.
>> She's fantastic.
>> So good, dude. I mean, I don't want to give away any parts of it, but there's this one part where she finds something out and her [ __ ] whole face starts shaking.
>> I was like, "How are you even doing that?"
that?" >> Yeah. It's
>> Yeah. It's >> She She starts breathing heavy. Nothing
freaks me out more than someone that finds out something crazy and doesn't have like a physical reaction to it.
>> Cuz anybody that's ever had anything crazy happen to them, your heart starts racing.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> You can't breathe. Yeah. And some people just don't nail that. But she she nailed it so hard. I felt like she really believed it.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, and I believe I'm like, "Oh my god."
god." >> Yeah. You start freaking out, too.
>> Yeah. You start freaking out, too.
>> It that scene was so good that I as I was watching I was like, "Damn, she's good." That's why I was thinking during
good." That's why I was thinking during the scene, I was like, "Damn, she's good."
good." >> You have to call me when you finish this.
>> I will.
>> It's it's it's so good.
>> She ruled in Homeland, too. She was
great in that, too.
>> Yeah. She's really a tremendous actress.
Do you ever see the conversation she had?
She had a a conversation with uh [ __ ] what's his name? The vaccine dancer guy Colob Bear. And uh like she was talking
Colob Bear. And uh like she was talking about the CIA being involved in all all sorts of different things and see if you can find it because he like changes the subject like immediately.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Because she's like saying wild [ __ ] about the CIA. Well, the CIA being involved in I forget exactly the context of what you were saying. Something here
it is.
>> Spy camp for us uh producers and writers and >> really. Yeah.
>> really. Yeah.
>> Is it like you know?
>> Yeah. So, we park ourselves in a a club in Georgetown and talk to like real spooks and you know, people in the intelligence community and and the State Department and journalists and people
who really >> what do they tell you that like what what's the most surprising thing that they've told you about their jobs or something you would need to know from?
>> Well, every year it's different, right?
we've been at it for a while and and the climate has been has changed. But this
year it was all about, you know, the distrust between the administration and and the intelligence world and um and the intelligence community was suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists,
which usually ago did you start shooting this?
>> How long did you start doing this show?
Like >> the intelligence community aligns itself with journalists to try to get rid of the president. I had I had one time this
the president. I had I had one time this is not the same thing but I had a u I know somebody who was very high up I'll just say in the intelligence community
and is older now and I have a relationship with them and I was talk sometimes we would talk through it was through you know my parents that that knew these people and I was I would love
to talk to this person because they were so not just wellinformed intelligent like fun to have a conversation with and I was on the phone with And as I asked a question, they go, "Not on the phone."
And I and I I kind of was like repeating myself. I go, they go, "Not on the
myself. I go, they go, "Not on the phone." I was like, "Oh." Like it just
phone." I was like, "Oh." Like it just it was one of those moments where I felt I was like, "Oh, okay." I was like, "Yeah, I'll see you later. Sorry."
>> I got so scared.
>> Like I felt like I violated.
>> I'm sure every phone call they make is >> being recorded.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Especially if you have inside information about something very important. You're supposed to stay
important. You're supposed to stay secret about it and you start blabbing.
That's >> hanging out in Scottsdale doing blow.
>> Yeah.
>> Talking about what do in Syria.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> You wind up getting whacked by some crazy person that kills himself.
>> Car accident or something.
>> Yeah. Something happens.
>> Yeah.
>> You know about this MIT Fusion guy that got assassinated.
>> Supposedly the same guy who assassinated the MIT Fusion guy also went to Brown University and shot people at Brown and then killed himself.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. And a lot of people are like, "What? This guy was working on
"What? This guy was working on groundbreaking energy. He was working on
groundbreaking energy. He was working on fusion at MIT.
And he was also talking about the poles, the earth's poles shifting. And that
this is a natural process that happens that we have to do to keep our magnetosphere that protects us from the [ __ ] rays of space.
>> What is our world, dude? What is
happening?
>> There's a lot of people that get killed because they are inventing things that are going to disrupt industries. That's
what I believe. And this is why we scroll. It takes six hours on TikTok.
scroll. It takes six hours on TikTok.
He's just like, I don't want to [ __ ] >> Yeah. You don't want to know. You don't
>> Yeah. You don't want to know. You don't
certain things you don't want to know.
And Kurt Mezer texts me all of them.
>> Really?
>> Text me all of them. Everything that I don't want to know, they it shows up.
I'm like, [ __ ] Or Dylan. Tim Dylan text me. And I texted to them, too. If I find
me. And I texted to them, too. If I find something out cuz there's just so much nutty [ __ ] in the world. But you're
like, what is going on?
Like people getting whacked and >> Yeah. It can overwhelm you.
>> Yeah. It can overwhelm you.
>> It can overwhelm you. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And I know so many people that are like legitimately mentally ill because they dwell on that stuff all day long.
>> Which is why we need the escape.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> You need something. And you also should limit your amount of time you're exposed to all that psychotic behavior >> because it starts shaping the way you view people. You know, if you if you
view people. You know, if you if you interact with people more on social media than you do in real life, it can really [ __ ] your head up.
>> So many people do that.
>> A lot of people >> a lot of people do that.
>> Yeah. Especially that was one of the real problems during co too. So people
were isolated and that was the only way they were interacting with each other.
>> The [ __ ] up thing is you realize how much those people end up like losing that connection with other like real people.
>> They think that this is >> Yeah. They think this is real life.
>> Yeah. They think this is real life.
>> This is the real world.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> they live in the comment section, you know.
>> It's crazy. It's just such a like it's like eating food that has no nutrients in it and your body's just freaking out like where the [ __ ] are the vitamins?
Yeah, >> there's no vitamins in it. It's just
nonsense.
And it's also like what percentage of it is even real people? It's not a hundred.
There's a bunch of it. It's just like bad actors from other countries and people with [ __ ] flags in their bios and who knows what is going on. Yeah.
>> And it's all just to try to shape narratives. We're involved in it.
narratives. We're involved in it.
Russia's involved. China's involved.
Corporations are involved. There's like
entire companies that are based around crowd campaigns about organizing attacks on individuals, organizing narrative control or organizing pushing a certain
narrative. Entire businesses are built
narrative. Entire businesses are built on that where they try to shape things and make things go viral.
>> Yeah. It's nuts. There's oh my god there's so much >> it's a >> complete new part of our society that didn't exist before and it shapes the way we view the world and it's being purposely manipulated by people and it's
legal because safeguards haven't put into place >> and also the amount of times that like people are talking to bots >> Mhm.
>> and like losing themselves. I don't mean like a scam. I mean like [ __ ] they're interacting just like with you're interacting with a computer right now.
>> Uhhuh. Yeah. All the time. I started
getting these weird WhatsApp group texts of investors, people investing in things and how much money they're making. This
is incredible. Sign me up. And like like all these random fake people will be in the the little group chat talking about how oh I can't wait to get involved in this. You know, I'm I'm going to go all
this. You know, I'm I'm going to go all in on this and then trying to get you to go, oh, I should go all in.
>> I want to go all in, too.
>> I should I should give you my bank account number.
>> Take a bigger position.
>> Can I wire some money to you? [ __ ] man.
>> And so many dumb asses get sucked into things like that.
>> The best though is when it happens to um like somebody will be like, "I sent 80 grand to Brad Pit." And you're like, "What?"
"What?" They're like, "Brad Pit was like messaging me and it's just like some 60-year-old lady and she was like, it was, you know, it just felt so real and
it it's like it's it's like a deep fake.
He's like, "Hi, Amanda. How is how are you today, my love? if you could just send me $30,000 to get out of this. And
then she's like, "And I did it. I feel
like an idiot." And you're like, "Yeah, you [ __ ] thought Brad Pitt needed 30 grand." Well, here's the thing. If
grand." Well, here's the thing. If
you've got a scam, like there's certain scams we allow, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Like here's one. Tell evangelists. We
allow that scam. Cuz if you're so dumb that you think Robert Tilden is got a a red line, direct line to Jesus.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, you write a check to me.
>> Yeah.
>> The devil's going to win. He bought like a G4.
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They all do. They
all do. This is the one crazy guy that was pointing at the reporter with the devil.
>> That's the one. No, that's not Robert Tild.
>> No, but that's the guy who >> cuz she was asking him about that.
>> Perry gave me such a deal.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, he just I had to take this plane.
>> Oh my god.
>> That guy looks crazy.
>> Out. Yeah, he looks scary. But that scam we allow, you know? We allow certain scams. >> Yeah, we let that one go.
>> Like if you're so dumb that you buy into that, like that's not even illegal. I do
feel so so bad though when it happens to the elderly. I feel so terrible for
the elderly. I feel so terrible for them.
>> It's terrible. That guy.
>> This guy.
>> Kenneth Copeland.
>> Yeah, this guy's dirty fingers. Imagine that dirty finger
dirty fingers. Imagine that dirty finger in your [ __ ] >> Here's my plane, y'all.
>> Dirty plane. Wealthy televangelist
defends using private aircraft in viral exchange.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Media gave me >> do all of his work. He got to do all that work. preacher who wants $54
that work. preacher who wants $54 million jet will donate old jet. What a
good guy.
>> What a sweet guy. Which that guy?
>> Jesse Duplantis. See like those guys. We
allow that. We allow that kind of >> which is crazy. They should be in prison. They're [ __ ] scumbags.
prison. They're [ __ ] scumbags.
>> Yeah, but they're getting people to voluntarily get the money, which is weird.
>> Then there was the guy the one >> this guy asked his congregation for 65 million to buy a jet. There's Do you remember the one that was like lock the doors and that was a whole scandal?
>> He's like shut the doors. Lock the
doors.
>> Oh, for what?
>> For donations. He's like we are not >> That's right. That's right. We're not
leaving here >> until you shut the doors. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Who is that guy? Pastor locks
church door. Demands $40,000.
>> Yeah.
>> Ushers, close the doors.
>> There's a hundred There's a thousand of you close them doors. Ushers, close the doors. That is so crazy. That's so
doors. That is so crazy. That's so
crazy.
>> Lock the doors.
>> People [ __ ] do it.
>> Well, there was a thing during the what is it? Katrina or what was it down in
is it? Katrina or what was it down in Houston? So, one of the floods with that
Houston? So, one of the floods with that dude, the the famous one.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> [ __ ] the guy that has the big arena.
>> Yeah.
>> What's his name?
>> Um, [ __ ] What is his name?
>> [ __ ] his name, Jamie. You know what I'm talking about. He's like
>> big [ __ ] eating grin.
>> Yeah.
>> Black hair.
>> Joel Ostein.
>> Joel Ostein. That guy. Yeah. Yeah.
>> He wouldn't let the homeless go anywhere.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. You can't go. No. No. No.
>> Like we need places to put people. Not
in here.
>> Yeah.
>> It's going to be gross.
>> People have lost their homes. No. No.
No. No. You can't [ __ ] on my floor.
>> No. Get out of here.
>> The power of Christ.
>> I think he did eventually let everybody in under pressure.
>> Wow.
>> I think eventually they shamed him into it.
>> Yeah. He realized like, "Oh yeah, I got to What would Jesus do? Oh yeah.
>> Jesus would just hire more people to clean up.
>> Jesus would get the allnew Global 7500.
>> Yeah. Jesus would get a new Rolls-Royce.
>> Unreal.
>> Yeah. They all do it though. That's
what's funny. They all have super expensive suits >> and taxree, right? This is religion.
Yeah.
>> That's the nuttiest part. That's the
weird part about the scam >> is that you're allowed to be taxree.
>> [ __ ] a.
>> That is weird.
>> It is weird. It's also weird when you think about what happens on the corporate level.
>> Mhm. that there's these corporations that make like hundreds of billions of dollars and they're like, "Yeah, they didn't pay tax on this because they're this corporation, >> right? Those are tax loopholes, though."
>> right? Those are tax loopholes, though."
>> Yeah. Well, they'll funnel it to Ireland and >> and and then not pay tax on. You're
like, >> "Well, supposedly that's what Jeffrey Epstein did for people. Found those tax loos people with tax loopholes and, you know, he helped rich people figure out how to
>> save money, money.
>> It exists for a reason, right? They're
>> scumbags.
>> Yeah.
>> They've all put it in place. You know,
>> powers the bego. I got you.
>> They just want to make sure that they keep the most amount of money possible.
>> Yeah.
>> And then there's that thing where like no one should be a billionaire. Well,
okay, hang on. Do you like having a [ __ ] iPhone?
>> Yeah.
>> Somebody had to make that. They're
working 16 hours a day. They like you don't want to be Tim Cook. I'm not
saying Yeah. Yeah.
>> You know what I'm saying? You don't want to be Steve Jobs. Guy died young because of it. But I guess the argument that
of it. But I guess the argument that some people make against that is not that that guy shouldn't be wealthy. It's
that when they have this overabundance of wealth and that the people that also work there don't have like certain health coverage or something. You're
like really like these Amazon warehouse guys are like [ __ ] dying in the warehouse.
>> Are they?
>> Well, I mean they they talk about these work conditions that are sometimes deplorable, right? And then you have the
deplorable, right? And then you have the people at the top with like hundreds of billions of dollars. Like you can't trickle any of that down to like some of your workers. That that always seems
your workers. That that always seems like a legit complaint from people to me.
>> Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, listen, if they didn't work, you would have nothing.
>> Exactly.
>> That's what's weird.
>> This guy's doing like he's making like $15 an hour, >> but if he didn't start the company, they wouldn't have a job.
>> True.
>> But, you know, a certain point in time, it's kind like spread it around.
>> Spread around a little bit. Yeah.
>> Spread it around.
>> Seems like probably better for everybody if you spread it around. Maybe people
wouldn't hate you as much. There's
always going to be people that like you should donate it all. I mean, that's like the the beautiful utopian.
>> There is that one that did it, too. Was
it the Patagonia guy?
>> Did he?
>> I think it's the Patagonia guy that became a legit billionaire and donated almost every [ __ ] penny of it. I
think it's him.
>> I'd You know that song, I'd love to change the world. I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do.
>> Is that right, Jamie? Was it him?
Uh I mean I type in I just >> first just typed in billionaire that gave donated everything and another guy popped up.
>> There's probably a bunch of >> It's one of those It's one of the outdoor you know apparel people. It's an
outdoor apparel billionaire >> who literally I think gave away like 98% of his >> got to go on your guy.
>> Yeah. The dude like kept like >> to give it to cuz somebody probably took his money. They're probably living on a
his money. They're probably living on a yacht somewhere.
>> That's the problem. I think he gave it to like a lot of land preservation type of things, you know, >> good stuff. Things that make sense.
Okay. Well, that's smart if you're an outdoor company, you know, and that's what you love.
>> But it is like that almost unbelievable, >> you know what I mean? Level of
generosity that a guy won in capitalism to that degree and was like, >> he probably did mushrooms one day. He
was like, "What am I doing? What am I doing? I'm living in this is a prison."
doing? I'm living in this is a prison."
>> Yeah.
>> I'm being imprisoned by all this money.
>> Yeah. Maybe
>> Sam Walton was apparently like pretty down to earth, too. You know, the the Walmart guy got started. Yeah. I mean,
he drove his like old pickup truck even when [ __ ] was like really I mean, he died a long time ago. His kids don't live like that.
>> I would have yelled at him if he had an old pickup truck. If I was Joey Diaz, >> the [ __ ] are you doing with this old pickup truck? You're balling now, cops
pickup truck? You're balling now, cops sucker.
>> Yeah.
>> Get a [ __ ] Cadillac at least.
>> Yeah. his um his his uh you know children and grandchildren live a very different life.
>> Of course.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. They're Nepo babies.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's not good. That's a tough way to live.
>> It is. When Forbes named Sam Walton America's richest man on October 28th, 1985, people were shocked to discover he lived a humble life in Bentonville, Arkansas with a muddy bird dog running
around the yard. He was America's richest man in 1985. They also surprised choice of vehicles. 1979 Ford F-150. But
as Sam said, "Why do I drive a pickup truck? What am I supposed to do? Haul my
truck? What am I supposed to do? Haul my
dogs around in a Rolls-Royce?"
>> It just wasn't who he was.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, >> also it's different, I think, when you >> He made it >> to that level as like >> a regular guy.
>> A regular. He was And he was already like in his 40s or something, 50s. Like
it was just different for him. He wasn't
>> He wasn't handed anything.
>> Don't forget who you are. Don't forget
who you are, [ __ ] >> Yeah, he didn't.
>> Well, some people do. Yeah.
>> And that is weird too, right? It's
weird. Weird when people change like radically.
>> So radically. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And but also that level of of wealth is like not something that most people can even comprehend. Yeah.
even comprehend. Yeah.
>> No, you can't comprehend billions. He
was the richest man in the world and he drove a pickup truck with a bunch of dogs. Like what are you doing with your
dogs. Like what are you doing with your money?
>> I was watching that um that documentary about the murder in Monaco. Did you
watch that one?
>> No. What's that one? That one's was about a guy who was one of the 200 wealthiest people in the world. Saffron
I think is his last name. He was a banker and um he lived an ostentatious life. I mean like out of control,
life. I mean like out of control, humongous villas. He had 25 security
humongous villas. He had 25 security guards around him at all times and was like a a target and and he was murdered in his penthouse in Monaco.
>> What was he doing that everybody wanted him dead? He just had a lot of in well
him dead? He just had a lot of in well one of the things is that he he invested or was like one of the people that got this Russian I don't know if it was like Russian crypto some type of currency or
uh stock market in Russia that collapsed when the when Russia devalued their their uh currency by like 75% all of a sudden one year. So billions of dollars
disappeared from people and so he became like a target of the Russians but he also had connections to a lot of government. when you're when you're a
government. when you're when you're a high level banker with banks everywhere, you're, you know, you're deeply connected to some like not so great people.
>> And so there was always like who did it?
And then his wife who it was she's I think she was he was her fourth husband also had two other husbands die.
One of them was like the richest guy in Brazil >> and he died. Um, oh boy.
>> And then people suspected that this guy Saffron's nurse may have killed him. And
there was this what the documentary was about. And they interviewed him. And
about. And they interviewed him. And
like the documentary is supposed like when the documentary >> male nurse >> male nurse >> um who and he was convicted. He was
convicted and he served like 10 years.
And then he's in the documentary doing the interview, right? like they they keep interviewing him and other people and then it's like the documentary ends and then
the documentary filmmaker is like this was where the documentary was supposed to end but this guy who we just did this documentary about this male nurse um as
we were in postp production on this got arrested for he did like some forge check [ __ ] I think maybe in Arizona and got locked up and his cellmate was like,
"Yeah, he tried to hire me to kill his ex-wife." So then he got put on trial
ex-wife." So then he got put on trial for soliciting to murder his ex-wife.
And then they go and interview him again. He was like, "No, it's all
again. He was like, "No, it's all [ __ ] man. I'm telling you this [ __ ] bull." Like, but he's like, "It's a it's very strange." And it's it's like it's one of those things where you're like, >> you don't think it's the guy and then you do think it's the guy.
>> What's it called?
>> I think it's called Murder in Monaco.
>> Monaco is a crazy place. Have you been there?
>> I've never been to Monaco.
>> I've been. It's really wild though.
>> It's weird. Yeah,
>> there's so much money there. Everywhere
you look is a Rolls-Royce or a Ferrari.
What is going on here?
>> Highest like amount of millionaires and billionaires in the the geographic like square mile or whatever because it's so small actually, >> right? And if you have residency there,
>> right? And if you have residency there, I believe there's like crazy tax.
>> You don't pay taxes.
>> You don't pay taxes. And guess what?
When uh when the husband died, the wife got her Mono Monaco citizenship like that week and then inherited the money and didn't pay any tax.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> How hard is it to get a Monaco citizenship?
>> I bet it's somewhat challenging, I think. Really?
think. Really?
>> I think so. I don't know.
>> Got to meet the right people.
>> I would assume I mean I know like for instance, you know, where it's like impossible and there's great benefits to it is UAE. They don't give that [ __ ] to anybody.
>> Oh, really?
>> Yeah. You got to be from there.
>> And that's the same kind of benefits, right?
>> Yes. Massive, massive benefits of being a there even there's even a thing if you're a UAE citizen, like if if we have the same job and um you're a non-citizen and I am a citizen, I get double your
salary.
>> Wow.
>> Just from being from UAE, things like that.
>> Yeah. Government will also pay for your housing, give you a car, pay for your education. Yeah. M
education. Yeah. M
>> but they have a small one of the reasons they have extreme wealth but they also don't have a high population of native citizens >> right >> so they're able to do things like that also
>> and they have insane oil money >> insane especially in Abu Dhabi >> well that's when people talk about like the richest man in the world >> like okay publicly >> but those guys don't have to tell you how much money they have
>> there's also a big difference between being extremely wealthy holding stock and extremely wealthy holding cash Yeah, >> that's a real big difference.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Well, that's why it's wild what these guys are doing with like the Saudi Arabians are doing with boxing.
>> Mhm.
>> Cuz they're just going, "What fight?
What do you guys want to see?"
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, let me call that guy.
>> Yeah.
>> We'll give you $100 million. Like, what?
>> Yeah. And then they're like, "That ain't [ __ ] That's fine." Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> That Saudi entertainment fund is is >> bananas. It's the government's fund.
>> bananas. It's the government's fund.
>> What was it like doing that Riad festival?
>> Fantastic.
>> Yeah, >> it was fantastic. I mean, the the the people there were amazing. Like, you
know, there's always like you look at things on the news and you you have your preconceived notion of like what things are right?
>> But when you're on the ground somewhere and you're with people, >> you know, I was just meeting wonderful people. We went to the they had the the
people. We went to the they had the the comedy club there. We went to the club like not what we were brought there to do. like they have like comedy pod I
do. like they have like comedy pod I think it's called >> and it was just like I mean it was just Saudi com like local people and the crowd was just citizens just like and
they were all just so warm and welcoming and they were such huge admirers of ours of like American comedy and American podcasts and they were just super sweet like they were so genuine
>> and what is the restrictions in terms of like language and subject matter >> uh so everybody was highly highly highly well-versed in not just English but like
American pop culture. So everything we talked about they got everything you know they got everything. Um I mean I went one the night before I went to see Jimmy Carr and Louie perform and like I
was I was like holy [ __ ] they get like even like the little throwaway lines you know like the things that aren't even like the bit like the little jokes.
>> Um the only restriction that we were that we had was about Islam and the royals. That was it. Which wasn't really
royals. That was it. Which wasn't really a >> hard thing for most people to adhere to because like you know like me and those guys like we didn't have Islam or royal jokes. We weren't we weren't cutting
jokes. We weren't we weren't cutting anything from our acts, >> right?
>> So I was like yeah by the way when we did >> UAE, you know, like Dubai and Abu Dhabi, they were like do not talk about same same thing. Don't talk about our royals.
same thing. Don't talk about our royals.
Don't talk about Islam. um don't don't be like super graphic about but then we did do graphic stuff and they were like yeah that's fine. They're like just take it easy on the on the royals and on Islam. But I was like yeah that's not
Islam. But I was like yeah that's not that's not a challenge right >> for me >> but the the country like as far as like the the people that we met they were all fantastic. They were really sweet
fantastic. They were really sweet people.
>> It's just people have a weirdness of like you're going over there to because it's the Saudi royal family has the money, right? the that's the the the
money, right? the that's the the the Saudi family is the the family that funds the entertainment fund, >> right?
>> And then people were like they would accuse me of what aboutism for saying that that's the same fund that paid for Ed Sheeran to come and Beyonce to come to do their shows and like that's what
I'm like but how that's just facts like it's not what aboutism. It's like that's the money >> that funds entertainment, right?
Correct.
>> And then some people will go, "Well, >> you should do it if the money came from like, let's say, a promoter."
>> But you're like, "Yeah, but that doesn't exist yet."
exist yet." >> Do you know what I mean? Like
>> right >> you this is this is the system that's in place now. Maybe in like
place now. Maybe in like >> So who accused you of what aboutism?
>> Just people would were so vocally upset that we went. Yeah. And I was like >> I mean first of all the way that I went was that I was doing Dubai. I was like I
was booked to do Dubai which is in UAE.
Mhm.
>> It was already announced. And then 3 months later, I got a call and they're like, "Hey, do you want to do Riad? It's
like a 90minute flight." I'm like, "I'm in the [ __ ] Middle East." Yeah, I'll add a show. You know, like I'm I'm there. It was like routing.
there. It was like routing.
>> Did you know it was a festival?
>> I knew it was a festival. And then they told me the lineup. And the lineup was bananas right?
>> It was like Kevin Hart, Bill Bird, Dave Chappelle. I was like, "Oh." I was like,
Chappelle. I was like, "Oh." I was like, "That sounds like a great lineup." I
didn't think >> really like that I was doing something that would ups. I had no idea. I had no idea. And then
idea. And then >> you didn't think it would be something that people would get offended by. I
mean, the people that were most offended were the comics that weren't invited.
>> Yeah, there's a lot of them.
>> I know. There's a lot of them that like a lot of them were super vocal. And I'm
like, you can't sell a ticket in Houston. I don't know why you're upset
Houston. I don't know why you're upset about Riad. Like, no one's going to see
about Riad. Like, no one's going to see you anyway, >> right?
>> It was a bunch of like 50-year-old feature acts that were upset.
>> And then we went over there, >> had a great time. Um, and I actually think that like one of the things that was overlooked is the fact that we were all saying they're like, "Oh, you you
had to adhere to I was like, "Dude, I told you the two restrictions, which I we had didn't affect my act." And I do think it's a sign of their progress that
they put on this festival and that we were saying all kinds of wild [ __ ] like the [ __ ] that we say on stage without talk. We didn't talk about Islam,
talk. We didn't talk about Islam, >> right?
>> I mean, that wasn't a crazy thing to me.
Like I think that that's showing because what's happening actually there is that right now the entertainment hub of the Middle East is Dubai. That is the entertainment hub of the Middle East.
That's where people go. That's their
Vegas. Big shows, spectacles, all types of [ __ ] Saudi Arabia is like, "No, we want to be the hub." And they have super
deep pockets. And so they're trying to
deep pockets. And so they're trying to be the to compete with Dubai in entertainment.
>> That's that's what like the fuel of this is, >> right?
>> And putting on this festival >> to me felt like that's that's a path towards their goal of like entertainment can be here and they put on a great
festival, treated us fantastic. You
know, people get I don't mind if people are like you can be mad be mad about whatever you want. I I don't care. But
as an experience, it was an amazing experience and I do think that they'll continue to put on these festivals.
It'll be very interesting to watch as this festival continues who goes who gets invited and goes who was against it at the beginning cuz you know it's going to be a few people and I I have some
screenshots that I've saved. So we'll
see who goes >> maybe perhaps. It's interesting. It's
it's interesting that comics are held to a higher standard than singers or or other people that perform over there.
>> Yeah. I mean,
>> it is weird though, you know, because it's like comedy uniquely challenges the idea of free speech.
>> Yeah, sure. Yeah, that makes sense.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. But I mean, >> because it's not like if someone says don't sing any songs about Islam, you're like, well, I don't have any songs.
>> But I have to say that also like some of these comics who are saying this like, oh, you know, you don't have free speech and you adhere to these restrictions.
It's like, have you ever done a private?
Have you ever done a university? I have.
>> Yeah.
>> They had restrictions.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, they were like, don't talk about our mascot. Don't talk about this.
Don't talk about that.
>> Yeah. And specifically, if you don't have that in your act already, then the question is, should you be working for those people because of what happened with Jamal Kosigible? That's that's
everyone's big argument. I think Dave had the best line about that. Yeah.
>> It's like Israel killed 240 journalists last month.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, like what are you talking about?
>> I mean, >> in the last three months, >> it's a fair point.
>> It is a fair point.
>> Yeah. It's um it's just different, right? Like one guy was sawed up in an
right? Like one guy was sawed up in an embassy, taken away in suitcases. Not
good.
>> It's a It's horrific what happened.
>> But also, I mean, if you want to like go down that that line of that that argument, >> then you shouldn't be working in America either.
>> I mean, that's that's like, are we saying that only their awful thing is worth >> Well, they're funding it, right? As
opposed to like if you work in America, it's not the CIA doesn't fund a comedy show.
>> Sure. Sure.
>> You know what I mean?
>> Okay. Well, I mean these Yeah, there's a lot of >> there's a lot of ways to look at it. And
if if it if it really upsets you, my position is good.
>> Well, the other thing, let it upset you.
>> Yeah, let it upset you. The other thing that like culturally it is a good thing to bring great comics over to Saudi Arabia.
>> I think so.
>> Good for people to hear what these Jimmy Carr and you and Louie and Bill and all these comics have to say and Dave. It's
a good thing for the culture. Like, it's
a good thing for hum. It's a good thing to open up society and it seems like outside of this whole Jamal Kosigible thing which again is undef indefensible
right >> outside of that this is a more progressive organization like they are letting women drive now they're like slowly this is coming into a more modern
>> it is progress it is a sign of progress whether people accept that or not it is a sign of of progress there >> yeah I mean it doesn't it doesn't help the people there if you never interact with them ever again because of
something their government did.
>> The the Exactly. And and I have to tell you if you saw the faces of these people that we were performing for and the I mean when you could cuz sometimes
they're like this but the like how genuinely thankful and excited they were to be at these shows. It was awesome.
Lived in Saudi Arabia you never would have imagined you'd see a lineup like that.
>> Oh my god. I mean some of the guys they were telling us they were like dude like 10 years ago they're like nothing like this could have ever ever happened here.
>> So I don't know how you don't see that as some type of progress.
>> What's up Jamie?
>> I just stumbled across something insane.
Uh this is on the justice websites justice.com. Justice
justice.com. Justice
>> Jamie scrolling through.
>> I don't know how you No, I just saw a tweet and clicked the link.
>> Okay.
>> Uh >> what is this?
>> Corner of the screen says J Epstein.
>> Jeffrey Epste killing himself.
>> What?
That's the date.
>> So, uh, what is he doing here?
>> I don't know. It's a 12 second video that someone found on their website.
>> Let me see that again. Put that up.
>> Can you pause it and make it larger?
>> Yeah.
>> So, is he hanging himself there? Is that
what this is?
>> Looks like he's leaning.
>> I'm not showing it on screen cuz I don't, you know, I don't even know what this is, >> but I don't even know if that's like what his It looks like plain white hair.
I don't know if it was, you know.
>> Well, he definitely had white hair, >> but like that's the date. Is that of Is that him with a thing wrapped around his neck and he's trying to kill himself?
>> I don't That's almost >> the So, one thing that's important was uh he had a previous suicide attempt supposedly >> when he was locked up.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, >> I mean that's one of the reasons why he was under like 24-hour supervision.
That's the case, right? Didn't he have a previous suicide attempt?
>> I don't even know if someone found this.
>> That's crazy.
>> That's on the government website. But
you imagine that they've had this footage the whole time. Is that real?
>> I'll show you how I found it.
>> Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? It's
like, who knows what's real. I watched a a cruise ship hit a bridge and the bridge fell apart and everybody died.
It's fake.
>> It's fake.
>> Oh yeah. For like a half of a second though, I was like, >> yeah.
>> Like, oh my god. I thought it happened today, like some new tragedy. And then
I'm like, wait, >> how much better are they going to get at that too?
>> Oh, it's going to be impossible to tell.
It's so much better than it just was just a couple of years ago. So, it says someone guessed the URL of the files that were uploaded to DOJ's website that were not announced yet and found the video.
>> Holy [ __ ] >> Okay. And then they corrected it. It
>> Okay. And then they corrected it. It
says it's 100% fake.
>> Oh, but it's on that website still, which is >> it's on the Justice Department.
>> So, I guess that means there's fit on the website.
>> Oh, boy. This video is 100% fake with a visual indeed released by the DOJ. It
seems it's a collection of files collected by investigators and this fake video originated on 4chan.
>> All right.
>> So, even they're getting >> 4chan strikes again. Wow.
>> Yeah, man. There's It's going to be impossible to know in the future.
There's no way to tell.
>> There's no way. There's no way.
>> Real [ __ ] weird >> cuz already with the voice stuff is crazy. Like I can listen to something
crazy. Like I can listen to something like your voice and I'll be like and then find out that it's fake. I didn't I mean I I >> they can alter it to make you excited, make you a little sad here.
>> And in like your case, in my case, there's just thousands of hours of us speaking, >> so it's even easier.
>> Oh yeah. And that won't even matter in the future. It's like with the newer
the future. It's like with the newer technology, they'll be able to manipulate it >> and it's going to get way better.
>> Yeah, >> that's what's I mean, what does that even mean?
>> What does it mean?
>> Tom Sigura, tell everybody once again, >> guys, please.
>> Awesome comedy special.
>> Uh, it's called Teacher. It's on
Netflix. When does this come out?
>> Uh, you're in the >> Sorry, I didn't mean to play this sound.
This will be out tomorrow. So
>> Oh, great. Yeah. So tomorrow comes out Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve on Netflix.
Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve on Netflix.
It's called Teacher. Um I'm very excited about it. I thank you so much for
about it. I thank you so much for watching it um over this holiday break.
Um I >> It's a good time to release.
>> I tore for two years to get ready for this one. I'm very happy with it. So I
this one. I'm very happy with it. So I
hope you hope you enjoy it.
>> Well, if it's any of the stuff that I've been watching, it's going to be awesome.
>> Thanks, brother. Killing it.
>> Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
>> Beautiful to see.
>> I'm excited.
>> I'm I'm happy.
>> All right, that's it. Bye, everybody.
Merry Christmas.
>> Merry Christmas.
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