Khosla-Backed AI Startup Debuts with $80 Million in Funding
By Bloomberg Technology
Summary
## Key takeaways - **AI is the biggest shift since cloud computing**: AI represents the most significant transformation in enterprise software since the advent of cloud computing, fundamentally altering how businesses operate. [00:22] - **The 'Franken stack' wastes seller time**: Revenue teams are burdened by a 'Franken stack' of disparate tools that don't integrate, causing sellers to spend over 70% of their time managing software instead of engaging with customers. [00:29] - **Revo's unified OS built for AI**: Revo aims to solve the 'Franken stack' problem with a unified revenue operating system, built from the ground up with AI at its core, to help companies succeed in the AI era. [00:40], [04:01] - **Investing in founder David Zhu**: Vinod Khosla's investment in Revo was driven by his long-standing confidence in founder David Zhu's capabilities, stemming from previous ventures, rather than just the initial idea. [01:17], [01:29] - **Talent density is key for Revo**: To achieve its vision of unifying go-to-market software, Revo prioritized building a team with high technical and go-to-market talent density, emphasizing global recruitment. [02:59] - **AI applications learn users, not vice-versa**: Unlike traditional software where users learned applications, AI-powered applications adapt to the user and their team, facilitating workflow and cross-application functionality. [05:03], [05:21]
Topics Covered
- The Franken Stack is Real: How AI Transforms User Experience.
- Most AI Valuations Won't Hold Up: The Harsh Truth.
Full Transcript
David, I would love to start with you. You're trying to tackle the concept that
you have labeled the Franken stack, even though the term is new to me.
The concept is something that's been discussed on this program a lot.
Just to explain what Riva wants to achieve it.
Sure. Well, first off, thanks for having me.
It's a big day for us. Look, I is the biggest shift in
enterprise software since the cloud. But the reality is, revenue teams are
still stuck. And like you said, what we call the
Franken stack, which is a dozen different tools that don't really talk
to each other, causing sellers way over 70% of their time wrangling software
instead of talking to their customers. And that's really painful.
Revo is looking to fix that via one unified revenue operating system built
from the ground up with air at its core. And with this 80 million raise, we're
scaling quickly to help all companies win in the age of AI.
V.A.. I was talking with my team this morning
about the structure of this round. And so it's basically a combined seed
and Series A and Reva is coming out and kind of announcing itself to the world,
which you can kind of give us the back story.
You know, you are an experienced investor in the world of technology.
When this crossed your desk, how did you know that you needed to get involved and
how did you determine at this very early stage the potential that that revo had?
Although the opportunity didn't actually cross our desk in a traditional way.
We've known David for a long time, from DoorDash to open door to open store.
Sorry. And now, even though we've been
incubating ventures with him, my partner Samir, has worked closely with him on
Rebel. And we cooked up the concept and
brainstormed it and thought it was important enough to do in the age of.
I think most applications and application stacks need to be rethought.
And this David Chester superstar wants to know.
So it was pretty easy. Then.
Is this an example of you investing in the known quantity founder then, rather
than the idea? Absolutely it will be invested.
The idea wasn't clear. That was a year and a half or two years
ago. But the founder was very clear.
David, I'm trying to track the growth that you've had.
So spring of 2024. You kind of come up with the idea, I
guess, incorporate a business and you've hired, I guess, aggressively.
You know, you're you're a sub 100 people still, but you've basically gone to
companies that are well known globally, not just here in the Valley and taken
the best people you can. What was that like?
Well, yeah, that's. That's your spot on there.
The company you build taking a page out of the notes book, but the company you
build is the team you build as a company, you build, not the plans you
make. And when we thought about tackling the
space of unifying all of go to market checking one system spanning marketing,
sales and success, we really needed to make sure that we had the talent
density, both from a technical perspective, but also from a go to
market to really bring together the combination of the depth of domain
knowledge, plus the ability to access the first party data to really pull this
vision off. So global talent is necessary for us to
make this a reality. David, what else do you need the $80
million for? Yeah, well, it's over the next few
months and quarters and years. Our vision is clear.
We need to continue accelerating our product roadmap to build out both the
breadth of the service area, to serve our customers, but also making sure that
every single capability is the best possible from a depth perspective.
But more importantly, in the age of AI, context matters.
And it's very important for us to double down on making sure that our AI
operating system is able to work seamlessly across every single one of
these modules capabilities jobs to be done.
So we're not replicating another frank and stack for the future world.
So that's what we're going to use the proceeds to to do.
Then I go back to you with the concept that the Franken stack, you know, you're
invested everywhere. One of the first checks into open air.
The world has changed a lot since then. You know, we had yesterday tweet from
Snowflake on the program talking about the problems right now in the data
layer. What do you make of the Franken stack?
Is that a real thing or this is just a marketing opportunity around this round?
No, I think it's a real thing. It enables each startup to do a lot more
than it could do. 20 engineers can do the work of 60
engineers. If you use the productivity tools
enables. But more than that, the user experience
can be dramatically different with the help of high tech.
As I like to say, in the old world of applications, users had to learn in
application and they learned to each vertical stack in the new world of the
application. Learn, stay human and responds the way
it should. It's my favorite way to think about that
transition the AI makes possible. You don't have to be trained on on an
application like SFP or PUP Start. The application gets to know you and the
other humans on your team. And so it facilitates not only the
function but also workflow across people and across applications.
It takes a very important shift in software.
To both of you. I kind of like to end the conversation
by going a little bit bigger on the world that we're in right now.
David, if you could reflect on what it was like doing this round.
There is a lot of energy behind I right now, but at the other end of the
spectrum, there is valuation concern. You know, there's no difficulty in open
air or anthropic, those kinds of frontier labs gaining capital.
But there is a lot going on right now. Would you just reflect on what the last
few weeks has been like in trying to close this?
Well, you know, the fundamental difference is
clear with our approach. We're initiative and purpose built for
revenue teams. And so, you know, when you talk about
the old players that were trying to bowl onto legacy stack, it just doesn't work.
What we're building with Reno is akin to how Tesla built its cars vertically
integrated with AI at its core. This way our eye is able to seek to see
and act across the full customer journey.
So the old players are held back by their past and the new players, to your
point, don't have the depth of domain knowledge, nor the access to the full
suite of first party data to pull this vision off.
So rivals building with both. And yes, it's hard, but that's really
what makes it defensible and worth doing.
Vino. You know, you're co-leading this round
with your friends at Kleiner Perkins. Again, the same question, like, what
does the environment look like to you right now?
This is a very sizable debut round. You had the conviction to do that.
Well, it was a while ago we did the seed round of 10 million that wasn't
announced and now we just participate in the $70 million round.
Obviously we think highly of the team, but I think it's the magnitude of the
opportunity this opens up. I native companies, I like to say most
valuations won't hold up in the air space, but the ones that are really high
quality companies will probably will return disproportionate returns In 2018.
People said to me $1,000,000,000 valuation for open the app was too high.
Then they said 26 billion was too high and then 100 billion, then 300 billion
and then 500 billion all to high. So a small percentage of the companies,
I suspect much less than 5%, will actually do extremely well and return
1050 or 100 times their money invested. Most companies will still lose money.
And I think that's why you want a back quality founders like David.
David's a superstar. I backed him in almost anything you did.
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