Learn to Learn in 58 Minutes

So back before I was doing YouTube, I used to run workshops like 20 times a year. These days I only do three or four. So I held a private

a year. These days I only do three or four. So I held a private workshop a few months ago and the team wanted to record this one to share with you guys as well. We've actually edited this video to be interactive so that you guys can actually follow along later as well. So here's the workshop. Hope you

enjoy. So the first thing that I want to start with is some of the basic principles around how to learn fast, how to learn anything. very fast. No matter

what you're learning, no matter what situation you're in, no matter what type of content, whatever type of challenge you have, there are certain principles that have to be met.

If you don't meet these principles, you will find learning hard every single time. So

this becomes your North Star. Any strategy or technique that you learn or use for the rest of your life has to meet this North Star, otherwise you will struggle.

So I'm gonna give you a little bit of theory, just enough to kind of wrap your head around it, and then I wanna swing back and forth, having some discussion, and then I'll go through some more tactical strategies afterwards. The first thing I'm going to anchor on is that flow of information that I talked about before where you just have data and that data can come from any type of

source and this is going inside your brain and your brain is doing stuff with it. It's thinking about it, right? And that thinking, we're going to call that processing.

And depending on how well you process that information, you are either going to have a really good memory, it's gonna be sticky, you will retain that information, or if you process it in a bad way, you will forget it. Likewise with how deep your learning is. If you process it in a good way, you will not only remember it, but you can use that information in the way that you need to.

So if this is good, then this means strong memory, okay, and then great depth of understanding and great ability to apply that information. If you do this poorly, most of the time it just ends up in the bin. This is when you forget everything that you learn.

You read through a page, halfway through the page, you realize you don't actually remember anything that you've been learning. You spend hours and hours learning and then one or two weeks later you realize you've forgotten half of it. That's what happens. And this

is just a symptom. You don't control this. You don't control your memory. You don't

control your depth. You can try to remember something, it doesn't matter. Trying to remember something doesn't mean you can remember it. Otherwise, this room would be empty. No one

would have any problems with anything, ever. Likewise with depth, trying to understand something deeply doesn't change anything. All of this, these are symptoms purely of the process that we use. And when you use the right process, you can't avoid it. You can try

use. And when you use the right process, you can't avoid it. You can try to forget it, but if you're using the right process, you won't be able to.

It will be sticky. So obviously the question is, so what is the right type of processing that we need to do? I want you to remember this for when you're learning. Information

you're learning. Information in isolation is death. Information in isolation is death.

is death. Information in isolation is death.

When you get any new piece of data coming into your brain and any time you your brain is trying to figure out what to do with that information, whether it should hold onto it or not, it is making a decision. Is it worth keeping onto this information? Most of the time, it is no. What's the

sixth license plate you saw today? That is data. That was sensory information that went into your brain and your brain filtered through it and forgot it so fast, you don't even remember even having had it in your brain before. The overwhelming majority of data that goes into your brain will be lost. Because if it doesn't, lose that information, your brain is just going to be processing nonstop. The energy consumption of that

is going to be massive and that's a life or death situation. So your brain is extremely, extremely efficient at pruning information that it doesn't need. And only the stuff that meets multiple filters of being worth keeping will it be stored.

Now here's the problem, right? Remember how I said that you can't just will your way into having better memory. So if you read something and you think, oh, this is really important. I need to know this for an exam, for my job, for solving this particular problem. And you say, okay, I need to try to remember this really hard. From your brain's perspective, it doesn't care. It doesn't care. It doesn't care

really hard. From your brain's perspective, it doesn't care. It doesn't care. It doesn't care that you need it for an exam because the alternative is that you will just die. Would you rather die or remember something for a meaningless exam?

die. Would you rather die or remember something for a meaningless exam?

So most information that comes into our brain, especially in the modern day, is extremely dense and largely irrelevant from our brain's perspective. And so what we're trying to do is we're saying, I need you to recognize that this is worth keeping. And the

way we do that is by preventing isolation. We say, hey, you need to hold on to this piece of information because it's not just this piece of information. This

information relates to this and this and this and this. And so if you forget this, the implication is catastrophic. So we have to trick our brain into seeing every piece of information as a connected web. or a connected pattern. Everything has an implication, everything has a consequence, everything influences everything else. And by actively processing

information that creates those connections, automatically you will have better memory.

Okay? So, quick question. Roughly how many hours did I study a day when I was trying to enter into medical school? 22. 21. Yeah.

What was the type of mint that I used to rub on my eyes? Yeah.

So, you know, that's a very isolated small piece of information, right? That's a very isolated fragmented piece of data that actually has no meaning to you in your life.

Like it could be a Smith, it could be a Hershey's Kiss, like no one cares, right? But you remember that. You remember that involuntarily. If I ask you about

cares, right? But you remember that. You remember that involuntarily. If I ask you about your favorite movie that you've watched, you watch a movie, you love it, and then afterwards I say, what was it about? And you say, I don't remember anything. Something

is wrong with you. You remember that, whether you want to or not, that will be retained because when that information comes in, it's being connected. The story is connecting it, whatever is connecting it. And that's actually a process that we can control. We

can deliberately create a connection in such a way that previously irrelevant information becomes relevant.

So a common example is like a phone number. So if you have a phone number, let's say that the phone number is I don't remember how the Australian phone number starts, so I'm going to use the New Zealand phone number. So it starts with 021-067-934.

Please don't call this number. I don't know whose it is. I'm sure it'd be nice if you're going to call them. So this is a series of numbers, right? And if this was your phone number, then normally the way that you remember

right? And if this was your phone number, then normally the way that you remember it is like this. It's like, da-da-da, da-da-da. da da da, you create a pattern, you create a rhythm to it. And then, have you ever had that situation where you say what your number is to someone and they say it back to you but then they use a different pattern and you're like, yeah, that is correct. So

that's your brain having found a way to organize that information in a certain type of structure and a pattern where this has become relevant not through any intrinsic meaning but actually simply just because it's associated with a pattern. That's a very simple example.

But this goes up in levels and we're going to explore those those different levels together. The next thing I want to move on to is the snowball effect and

together. The next thing I want to move on to is the snowball effect and how everything I've talked about right now relates to the snowball effect. How many of you, if I say the word flow, entering into flow, do you understand what that means? What that feels like? It's when you just, things are locking in. How many

means? What that feels like? It's when you just, things are locking in. How many

of you have experienced flow when it comes to learning something? You're learning something and you just feel like, oh, I get it. It's making sense. things are coming together, the concepts are building. Actually, it feels good because you can feel like, ooh, I'm learning, like I'm gaining knowledge. You're usually pretty confident about that knowledge as well. You

feel like it's all coming together. It feels very productive. So that flow state that you're reaching, that's one symptom of having this snowball effect. This is what's actually happening.

Your brain has a series of connections and patterns based on all of your prior knowledge, all of your prior experiences, everything that you've ever learned before. not just

related to work or academics, anything from your hobbies, favorite books, whatever it is. So let's just say that this is your existing pattern.

So we call this a schema. This network of information, we call it a schema.

So your brain is an existing schema. And then new information, new information that you read from a book or you're listening to right now doesn't come in a schema.

It comes as isolated, individual dots and points of information. And it's up to you to figure out what the schema is. A schema exists. When you read a textbook, the author has a schema. They're trying to communicate that schema to you. They're trying

to make you see it the way that they see it. When you are first learning about a new complicated piece of legislature, for example, the person who created that legislature had a big picture understanding, well, hopefully, had a big picture understanding of all the ramifications of it and what it really means. So your job

is not to just collect the data, this is not your job. Your job is to actually figure out what the pattern and the schema is here. When you figure that out, that is when you really truly understand it. That's when it clicks and you understand it and it feels intuitive and logical. And so when this first piece of information comes into your brain, your brain is trying to see how is this

thing related to what I already know? What are the possible connections? And it's hypothesizing, and it's looking for all of those things. And so let's say that it finds, oh yeah, this thing could be related to this, and it could be related to this. Great, so now we're consolidating this new piece of information in our schema. That

this. Great, so now we're consolidating this new piece of information in our schema. That

knowledge is slowly becoming our own. We get a second piece of information, it'll do the same thing. Let's say it can't find it. This information will be lost. If

you didn't see how it connects together, you're gonna forget that. So let's say we come back to this. We've got our third piece here. So, okay, this third piece kind of connects to this one, but it also connects to this one. So you

see now the new piece of information that we just learned, because this is now connected, this becomes another anchor point for this one to connect with. So as

you learn more, now that we've got this connected, we see, oh, this is actually connected to that one. Oh, now that I see that these two are connected, actually this is kind of a bigger group of information which widely connects to this one.

So if this is connecting here, shouldn't there also be something here? You look through the textbook, you look through whatever it is, you ask on YouTube, oh, there actually is something there. And not only is there one, there's also this one here which relates to that as well. So you can see now the network is growing. And

so as we learn more, there are more places that this information can connect to. Whereas when we first start, you don't have many anchor points.

You don't have much leverage. So that new information, there are only limited places for it to fill. So snowballing is when you start with not much, you start creating a few initial connections, and then as you continue to move through, it gets easier and easier to build new connections because your brain is actually a better

version of itself than it was 15 minutes ago. There's more opportunities. So

the strategies that I'm gonna go through are about creating the snowball effect.

So you've got paper in front of you, right? Hey, so we're about to enter into the strategies now, and we've edited this video so you can follow along. So

I recommend you go grab yourself some paper or ideally a tablet with Infinite Canvas.

If you follow along, then the feedback that I give to them is almost like I'm giving it to you. So it's going to make it much more useful and relevant. And speaking of following along, learning to learn is just easier when there's something

relevant. And speaking of following along, learning to learn is just easier when there's something to follow step by step, which is why for some of you, it might be worth thinking about whether my full guided program is a good fit for you. Note

this is a paid program, so it's not going to be for everyone, but it does make learning to learn a lot more straightforward. I tell you exactly how to build an entire learning system from start to finish to improve your memory and your performance. The idea is to prevent you from wasting time on just trying to figure

performance. The idea is to prevent you from wasting time on just trying to figure out what to do next and whether you're doing it right. But again, it's not for everyone. It is suitable for students and professionals. Our member split is about 50-50,

for everyone. It is suitable for students and professionals. Our member split is about 50-50, but it does take effort and diligence at least a few hours per week. It's

not an overnight solution. So if you've got an exam coming up next week, it's probably not going to help you that quickly. Also, if you don't have anything really serious to learn, like you're not dealing with dense new information or you don't have to perform with that information at a high level, this program is probably gonna be overkill. But if you are interested and you wanna learn a little bit more, I'll

overkill. But if you are interested and you wanna learn a little bit more, I'll leave a link for you in the description below. So hopefully now you've got your paper or your tablet in front of you and we're gonna jump into the interactive strategies part. So what I wanna do is we're gonna go through a very, very

strategies part. So what I wanna do is we're gonna go through a very, very simple exercise. I want you to think about something that you are learning or have

simple exercise. I want you to think about something that you are learning or have learned that you wanna recap on. and write down 15 keywords of that topic. It could be any type of problem you're trying to solve. It

could be a project you're working on. It could be a topic that you've previously studied that you're trying to reapply, brand new thing that you're learning. One thing that I will say, try not to use languages. That's because language learning has kind of its own separate stuff, which we're just not gonna go into in this workshop. If

you want to, you can also just, go to ChatGPT and be like, hey, this is the topic, give me 20 keywords and just pick from the list. It doesn't

matter, we just need to get to a list of keywords. Feel free. That's totally

acceptable. So what we're going to do right now is a simple activity that I call blind mapping. And the good thing about this is that not only is it a great first technique to start trying to expose yourself to how to forcibly make connections, but it's also a technique that you can just use. You can just use this every single day, anytime that you need to learn anything. This is a great

first step. You can then take this technique and you can build on it. You

first step. You can then take this technique and you can build on it. You

can make it much more advanced and sophisticated. But today I want to at least give you this initial technique. If you use this technique correctly, you can learn two, three hundred pages of information in like two hours. And you will remember like 80 to 90 percent of that for weeks and you will be able to answer questions about it. You will be able to talk about it. You will be able to

about it. You will be able to talk about it. You will be able to discuss it, work with those ideas in complex ways. And it will feel fun and engaging. And I literally just did that on the plane here with a book. I'm

engaging. And I literally just did that on the plane here with a book. I'm

going to read that quickly. Yeah. Okay, so the way that we do this is that you simply just pick a word from that list. You don't have to know, like you have to be confident about it. You literally just pick a word that you feel like this word seems kind of important. Right, so find that word, put a little tick next to it. Now, I want you to look down the list

and then ask yourself, when you say this word is important, you've already actually made a judgment here. You have said this is important and already screened through possible relationships and implications and consequences. Right? Things don't become important in isolation. Importance is

only given in its relation to other items. So you've made the judgment, hey, this word seems important. So I want you to look through the rest of that list and then take the thing that it influences, the consequences of it, the things that it's related to that give it its importance. And you might look at your list and realize, actually, I don't have any words for it. That means you've missed some

keywords. So fill it in. Write down more keywords that tell you why that word

keywords. So fill it in. Write down more keywords that tell you why that word was important. So right now, we have a list of words. We've got a tick

was important. So right now, we have a list of words. We've got a tick next to one of them. We've got a tick next to a few other ones because that forms a little web. So all we're going to do is we're going to make that web visible. You already know that they're connected in a certain way.

It's in your mind. Just try to put it down on paper. Don't use any extra words. Don't write in sentences. No bullet points. Simply keyword, line, arrow

extra words. Don't write in sentences. No bullet points. Simply keyword, line, arrow to another one, line, arrow to another one in a simple, very basic map. Now,

I want to go back to that keyword list. Some of those items are not ticked. So look at the little map that you've got, the little connections, and ask

ticked. So look at the little map that you've got, the little connections, and ask yourself, what is the other item from this list that you think might be meaningfully connected to what you've already got? So we've built a small little schema, and we're gonna just extend one step out from that. Bring one more keyword into the fold and see how it would connect together, and then just make whatever links you need

to to connect it up. We've kind of started this cycle again. By adding that new keyword in, it sort of opened the door for some new connections to be formed. So now when you look at your keyword list again, you might see, okay,

formed. So now when you look at your keyword list again, you might see, okay, now that there's this new keyword that's been added in, a couple other ones feel like they naturally might be able to follow along. So we're gonna do that one more time. Find maybe two or three keywords from your list that you think are

more time. Find maybe two or three keywords from your list that you think are meaningfully connected to the keyword that you had. And then again, add them to your map. And then now your map should be starting to get a little bit bigger,

map. And then now your map should be starting to get a little bit bigger, a little bit messier, a little bit harder to follow, but the connections are at least drawn on there. And that's what you want. Don't worry about getting it perfect.

Don't worry about getting the most accurate answer. Just write your ideas down.

Thoughts, hypotheses. No one's gonna judge you on how accurate this is. So right now, you should have a map that looks kinda messy. There's lots of things going around.

Your lines are probably crossing, so put your hands up if your lines are kinda crossing each other. arrows crossing over other arrows. Okay. It looks a little bit like there's lots going on. You should look at this and feel like, okay, technically the connections are there, but it's definitely not staying in my memory for very long. That's

how you should feel about it. Looking at it right now. So what we're going to do is now we're going to consolidate. We're going to simplify. So take that.

You might need a brand new piece of paper, but you want a fresh sheet.

So you've got the connections technically there, but it's a little too messy. So what

I want you to do is I want you to redraw those connections, but arrange them in a way so that the lines aren't really crossing so much anymore. It

sort of represents more of a flow that makes sense to those types of connections.

And the other part is I want you to see if you can group some of those together. You might realize that two things are connected because they're kind of part of the same group of information. So any way you can find a way to group keywords together, group them. And if you're feeling like, okay, this is moving ahead pretty easily, add more keywords on. Feel free to just keep that cycle going.

Keep trying to map it out. Show those connections. Show those directions. Just make them a bit more purposeful. If you notice that you've got one item and then lots of arrows coming out from one item, then see if you can group those. So

instead of one item with six things coming off of it, it might be one item with two groups of things coming off of it. See how you can group things together to clean it up. If you feel like you're able to, you might also want to make the arrows more explicit. Make the direction explicit. Is it going from left to right? or is it going from top to bottom? Create a direction

to the arrow. What is the nature of that relationship? Are there any relationships that are even stronger than others? Make that line thicker. Really prioritize which major connections really form the foundation of this topic. Okay, we're gonna pause there for a second, and I'm just gonna get a sense of how it is. So, a

few things. First of all, I like to do this little scale. So, thumbs,

either here or here. So this side or that side. So you're on this side if you felt like this is really, really easy, very, very little effort. You're

almost falling asleep how easy it is. And then over here, this is when you're like, oh, I'm like really, I'm having to actually really think. Like I'm very active mentally. That's almost to the point where it's like I'm getting kind of overwhelmed with

mentally. That's almost to the point where it's like I'm getting kind of overwhelmed with all the different things that I'm possibly thinking about here. How are we feeling? Show

me in the room. Can you point it towards me so I get a sense of the direction? Which direction do you want to take? So this is easy. This

side of the room is easy. This side of the room is hard, very cognitively challenging. Put them up high so I can actually clearly see where we're at. Okay,

challenging. Put them up high so I can actually clearly see where we're at. Okay,

good. Good. So that feedback is actually very, very important to me because that is actually one of the key indicators whether you're doing this correctly or not. You should

not be here. You could be here, but hopefully you're somewhere around here.

That's what we want, because that is a sign that your brain is working. That

is your brain learning. Some of you may have even felt, did any of you feel like you were actually kind of able to enter into this sort of flow where you're sort of thinking about these ideas back and forth? It is very back and forth. You're not necessarily consuming more information, You can feel the

and forth. You're not necessarily consuming more information, You can feel the thoughts are starting to organize themselves differently. You're challenging them in different ways. Did you

feel that? At the beginning, it can feel quite chaotic compared to how you might normally learn something. So these are all good. And one of the most important things to do as a learner is that you have to recognize that that is the feeling you want. And one of the most common reasons why people struggle to learn effectively is that they will feel that feeling that is associated with having to think

a lot going back and forth and they think, oh, this is bad. Like I'm

getting, this is me being overwhelmed and not doing it correctly. And then they, so they pick something that's easier, right? They pick something that's easier. So if you just chuck these keywords into ChatGPT and say, hey, group them for me, it will do that in seconds. Takes very little effort, but none of that is in your brain.

So you have not developed expertise, right? So the heavy lifting of your brain is what creates the expertise. That's what creates the memory and the knowledge. So you wanna be in this band where you feel your brain is really active. You're constantly going back and forth. A couple of things. First of all, this map that you've created is just a representation of your thoughts. It's not meant for accuracy. It doesn't have

to be accurate. It's just helping you think. It's a tool to help you learn.

You might draw a connection there and you have no idea if that's truly correct or not. You try to make it as accurate as you can with what you

or not. You try to make it as accurate as you can with what you know, accepting that probably some of this is wrong. And that's perfectly fine. It's the

process of trying to think in this way that creates the learning. Another question, as you were doing this, did any of you have sort of questions come up in your mind about like, does this even make sense? Is this really how it's connected?

Or, you know, like, could I group it this way? Did anyone, put your hand up if you sort of had some of these questions as you were doing this.

Okay, so that's great. So that is now your brain telling you, this is the gap that I need to fill to create a schema. So that is the highest yield thing that your brain right now is ready to catch. Right? So if I do this, okay, I'm going to throw this to you, okay? You need to catch, okay? Ready? Why didn't you catch it? Yeah, thank you. Sorry, sorry

okay? Ready? Why didn't you catch it? Yeah, thank you. Sorry, sorry

for throwing that to you. But yeah, that's the idea is that your brain is saying, yes, I'm ready. I want to know this. I have a question. This is

the gap. You're trying to create a schema. I'm trying to create a schema. There's

a gap. I need to cross this. And then if you at that point say, okay, well, page two of the book says this, and it's a totally different paragraph, your brain is like, what the hell, dude? Like, I was waiting right here, and now you've given it something completely random, you've broken your flow, you're not building a schema anymore, that's kind of fading away. So you will feel this happening. Oh,

it's really easy now. Oh, I don't have to think about it anymore. So it

feels really easy. It feels really passive. It feels really ineffective. So this cycle, what we're doing is, We're taking a bunch of ideas. We're seeing how it could connect together. We're forming hypotheses that we're going to change and gain accuracy over time. And

together. We're forming hypotheses that we're going to change and gain accuracy over time. And

then in doing that, we're starting to understand how it might fit together as a big picture. And then we're realizing the gaps in our knowledge. We're seeing the things

big picture. And then we're realizing the gaps in our knowledge. We're seeing the things we need to really look up that we need to learn a little bit more about. And so we go and do that. And that becomes the next thing we

about. And so we go and do that. And that becomes the next thing we consume. And then we know how to consolidate that. And we work with that. And

consume. And then we know how to consolidate that. And we work with that. And

everything we add on, it opens up the door for other things to be added on. And we continue to do that. And anytime we feel like, oh, it's getting

on. And we continue to do that. And anytime we feel like, oh, it's getting too messy, it's hard to follow, we just pause, we just try to clean it up. Make the lines a little bit clearer, group ideas that can be grouped, simplify

up. Make the lines a little bit clearer, group ideas that can be grouped, simplify a few things. And that is basically the fundamental process of how you can force connections with anything that you can learn. You can use that on a piece of paper, you can do that on an iPad. When you get good enough, you can just do it purely mentally for quite a large amount of content. And you don't

even need the notes as an adjunct. So I'm gonna give us a little bit more time to practice this because I really, the most important thing is that you really feel what it feels like. Tanzira is also gonna just walk around and just have a look at your work. Give you a couple little tips here and there if you're getting stuck. If you're also feeling like you're not sure how to move

on, you can put your hand up and I'll come help you. But does anyone have any questions about this technique so far or how they might apply it in different areas? I think it's really important that you have clarity on at least what

different areas? I think it's really important that you have clarity on at least what you're trying to do so that you can really focus on just executing on it.

When you're talking about drawing areas in certain directions to establish purpose behind the relationship, do you also label those, what I think is like edges to say what the relationship is about or why it's related? Yeah, good question. You don't have to, you don't have to. So what I found is that when you're creating a map, you're always balancing real estate versus meaning. So you want the map to be as simple

as possible with this few things going on so that when you look at it, you can just see, ah, this is what the knowledge is. And eventually when you have a big enough thing, your knowledge is gonna look quite unique and different. The

way you've organized and structured is gonna be different. I can guarantee if you look at your neighbor's maps, they don't look like yours do. And that's normal because the knowledge and the content and the topic is different. And even if the topic is the same, the way you think about it and the way it makes sense for you is going to be different. So what I found is that adding information

onto the map to represent what the arrow means is not valuable because you will already remember that in the process of just thinking about what that relationship is and creating the arrow or how big or thick it is. Okay. Let's do it. Let's

do a little bit more of this. Okay. So what I want you to try to do is just remember that cycle, right? So we've got keywords. So what we're going to do is we're going to consume information, right?

That consumption is going to come from your keywords, or if you would like, you can pull out your phone or whatever it is and actually just look it up.

You're gonna consume information and then from that, you're going to then map out the connections, very rough, and then you're gonna get a sense of when it feels like it's too much. It's too messy. You're getting overwhelmed.

Be conscious of that. Keep that in your mind. When you feel like you've hit the limit, oh, it's getting too overwhelming, there's too much going on, we're gonna stop, we're gonna simplify. We're gonna condense that information down. We're gonna tidy up the arrows.

We're gonna rearrange things. So that process of doing your mind map, you're gonna do that again and again and again. That's very, very normal. If I'm learning a big complex topic within one hour, I might regenerate my mind map seven or eight times.

And every time you regenerate it, your knowledge is getting better and better. The clarity

is improving. So you're gonna simplify it. You're gonna keep simplifying it until this is no longer true. You're gonna simplify it until you can look at it and think, yeah, this makes sense to me now. It feels clear. Feels pretty intuitive, not overwhelmed anymore. And then you're gonna take your next round of consumption. You might have questions.

anymore. And then you're gonna take your next round of consumption. You might have questions.

If you have questions, look them up. If you don't have any questions, then just add on the next keyword that you think might be meaningful. And you're gonna repeat this cycle. Okay? Remember, accuracy here will happen over time.

this cycle. Okay? Remember, accuracy here will happen over time.

But keep up the pace. Keep your brain active. Don't let it get stuck on making the best perfect group and the best perfect relationship immediately. it will just happen, keep in flow. If one keyword is just too hard for you to connect, just move on to a different keyword. Eventually you will figure out where it fits and just keep that pace going. Let's see how that goes. Try it for about five

to seven minutes and then we're gonna go into some further applications of this technique.

By the way, I previously did a workshop on this and I said, okay, I'm just gonna give you 15 minutes to do this for like 20 or 25 keywords and the guy ended up being in flow for an entire hour And then I stopped him afterwards and he was like, oh, but it hasn't been 15 minutes yet.

So when you really get into this, you will feel that your brain is actually operating at a certain pitch. All right, five or six minutes, let's go. As I

look around, I can see that there are some of you who are struggling to really connect it together. So here's what I do, okay? If you're struggling to connect it together, here's what I'm gonna do. Take a word and then form a connection.

Three, two, one. One, draw the line, like immediately. Draw it, just draw it.

Draw it now. Draw it. Stop, draw it. Hurry up, draw it. Yeah, good. Pick

another one. Three, two, one. Draw a connection. Do it, do it, do it. Yeah.

So that pace of just forming connection, a bad schema that's totally wrong in every way is better than no schema at all. It is always easier to build on something that is connected but can be more accurate than to build on nothing. So

this is what we were trying to do just now. And especially when you're first starting this, it's not an easy thing to do. It's a very conscious, active, mental process. That's totally normal. It will get easier over time. Eventually, it will become so

process. That's totally normal. It will get easier over time. Eventually, it will become so instinctive to the way that you process information that you won't be able to really learn any other way. So for me to learn information now, all the stuff that I'm teaching you is very automatic. But obviously, when I was 17 years old, it was super not automatic. So for me to learn how I used to would take

me a lot of effort. I really have to concentrate to be able to learn like I used to learn when I was 17 just because those habits are completely gone. So even if it feels difficult, don't worry about that. What I want to

gone. So even if it feels difficult, don't worry about that. What I want to know though is whether there's accuracy with technique. So again we're trying to consume it and we're mapping it out. So this part, taking ideas and then just getting it into some kind of map. So let's do that test again. This is like not successful, finding it really hard to do it, this side. And this is actually,

yeah, like really easy, able to just swiftly just take ideas, start mapping them out, draw relationships, draw connections. How do we feel about your ability to do that part of the process? Okay, so we wanna be able to have this part moving fairly quickly. This is just a decision. We just decide to be fast.

You can't get accuracy on this. The only way to do this badly is to not do it. So this is purely a decision. It's just you keeping the standard in your mind that accuracy from the beginning is not where we need to go.

What we need right now is speed, quantity of those relationships. And when it's on paper, you can think about it faster. It's much easier to think about those things than think about it in your head. Your brain is incredibly powerful, but it's not very good at that kind of mental tracking. So this part, we want to keep that relatively fast. You just continue doing that until it feels messy.

How many of you, so again, this to this, are we able to detect when it's getting too messy? When it's like a little overwhelming, there's too much going on, I need to pause. Are we able to catch ourselves when this happens? Here to

here, how are we feeling about that part? Okay, so this side of the room is like feeling really hard. This part is, this side is really easy.

Okay, so this one, this just means that as you're learning, you just have a part of your brain that's keeping track of how it feels, right? When it's really, really requiring a lot, when you feel like there's so much, I don't really know what to do, then that's your sign you're entering the overload, you take a pause, and then you simplify, right? Then as we simplify, this is usually the hardest part.

We're able to take that overwhelming volume, and we're able to rearrange it able to group it we can simplify it we can clean those connections up until we get to a point where it feels like it makes more sense now how are we feeling about that this side of the room is really really hard this side of the room is very easy where are we feeling about that one

okay so this one is the one that you get better with with practice you just hold yourself to that standard so here is where you have to have a high standard low standard Just get stuff down, go, go, go, go, getting overwhelmed, high standard. Try to simplify it, group it together, piece it together. Here is where

high standard. Try to simplify it, group it together, piece it together. Here is where the learning happens. This is just preparation for this. And then this part is where we're forming schemas, consolidating information, developing expertise. So the more of your time, if you're spending an hour learning something, if you can spend 45 of those minutes on this and 15 of those minutes on just doing this part, then it means you're gonna

have a very high efficiency of learning. Dan, I

think you were about to have a question. Yeah. Kind of draw it to another analogy. It's like kind of like dealing with a really messy cupboard where your mapping

analogy. It's like kind of like dealing with a really messy cupboard where your mapping is literally just pulling everything out and dumping it so you can see the layer land of what's there. And when there's too much to deal with, that's when you start to group and organize and reorganize and put things back. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The

analogy I usually give, and I think this is the perfect analogy for learning and solving a jigsaw puzzle. When you open up a jigsaw puzzle, it's just pieces. They're

individual pieces that you don't know how to connect together, but you know it connects somehow. There is a picture that it forms. but you just don't know what it

somehow. There is a picture that it forms. but you just don't know what it is. And you don't know that the one you pick up is going to, you

is. And you don't know that the one you pick up is going to, you don't know where it's gonna go. And just because you pick it up doesn't mean you know where to place it. So sometimes you pick it up and you just put it back down again because you have no idea where it's meant to go.

And so the strategy is get the pieces out and then start arranging and grouping and organizing somehow. Start with the frame, start with the borders, group it by colors, group it by interesting pattern. It doesn't even really matter, but group it somehow.

And then slowly, whichever part feels the easiest like you can form a picture out of, just do it. Because everything you do, that means there are less pieces left in the box for you to deal with. And the more that is forming a picture here, the easier it is to see where it fits. And that piece that you initially picked up that you looked at was extremely random, you have no idea

where it goes, because it's the same shade of blue as every other piece. You

look at that and you realize, oh, this shade of blue has a one pixel white dot on it. I know exactly, I've been looking for this pixel white dot.

And you know exactly where that fits. That's what it feels like when you're building that knowledge. But what most people do is they pick up a piece and they're

that knowledge. But what most people do is they pick up a piece and they're like, okay, memorize everything about this piece. Like, ingrain this into my mind. Put it away. Do I remember it? Put it away. What about now? and

mind. Put it away. Do I remember it? Put it away. What about now? and

you pick up the next piece, and you just continue doing that. Six or seven pieces later, if your memory is amazing eight pieces later, you've forgotten everything.

It's overwhelming. And it's insane to expect that your brain could hold onto that with that approach. So when you think about a jigsaw puzzle, it doesn't make sense to

that approach. So when you think about a jigsaw puzzle, it doesn't make sense to use that strategy. And learning is exactly the same thing. Your brain is undergoing a very, very, very, very similar process. Yeah, good question, good analogy.

Any other questions or reflections from, what was that? Are we able to do it again? I'm sorry. You're in the flow. You're too deep in the flow. Come back

again? I'm sorry. You're in the flow. You're too deep in the flow. Come back

to us, Grace. Go to the light. No, but that's good. When you're really getting sucked into it, you can feel that things are flowing. Does anyone have any procedural questions about this? An aspect about an instruction that I gave you that was not clear to you? Or that you did it and you felt like, Justin, you said that it was going to be this effective, but when I did it, it felt

very different to me. That's important. This should work biologically.

I can promise you, I've taught this thousands of times, every single person I teach this to, it will work. So if you did it and you felt like it didn't work, we can improve that technique. It will 100% work. With the simplify step, how do you validate that you haven't oversimplified it and just because you've recently done it, it makes sense to you, but tomorrow it doesn't? It's actually hard to oversimplify.

And you usually don't have to worry about that because one part of it is that You can also test yourself on that knowledge later anyway. So

this is kind of a good little segue. I'll just really quickly go through this because it's kind of when you think about that learning system. So there is this initial part which is the consumption.

So this is when you're just taking in information. And the next part of it is that processing. So sometimes I call that digestion.

But then, I mean, it's kind of gross, but there's a regurgitation aspect of this as well. But I'm just going to call it testing. Every time you

as well. But I'm just going to call it testing. Every time you eat too much and you vomit, you'll be like, I'm just testing my food. Yep,

still there. So this is kind of the overall flow. So every learning system should have these components. Now normally the consumption part is not an issue. So what you need to get right with this is that your consumption and digestion are balanced. That's

the key part is that these two things need to be balanced. So anytime you enter into a process where the consumption is too high compared to your ability to digest and that is skill dependent and knowledge dependent, like the more you know about a topic the more you can consume until you get overloaded, right? brand new subject a very small amount can overload you straight away. So most people grossly overestimate the

amount that they can consume. They're horrible over eaters. So you consume while keeping in mind your ability to digest it. That digestion is this process. This is

consumption, digestion, consumption, digestion. So the digestion part the way to do this correctly is making sure that you use the techniques that I just taught you to simplify. And again, those techniques are just the base. You can then evolve those

to simplify. And again, those techniques are just the base. You can then evolve those many, many levels beyond what I've taught you to increase efficiency. But keeping good fidelity of that technique here. And then the testing part is saying, even if you do this perfectly, your brain will always win and that you will forget things and your knowledge will have gaps. It's inevitable. There's no way to avoid it. So we need

to make sure that we are testing ourselves on that knowledge in some way. Now

there's a spectrum of testing. There's very formal testing, which is actually having questions for yourself to test, creating flashcards for yourself, doing a quiz. That's a very structured type of test. But there are also types of tests that are very organic, or how I call it, there's a win-win type of testing, especially in a professional setting. So let's say you learn about a new type of technology. that you can

setting. So let's say you learn about a new type of technology. that you can apply for your work. It's gonna help you solve a lot of different problems. And you've digested it and you really understand it. Now you need to test it. So

you might, the next day, call a meeting with a few of your team and then say, hey, I learned this really interesting thing, I'm gonna teach it to you because I feel like all of us should understand this. So that teaching opportunity for you is not only great for your team, it's you testing your own knowledge. Right?

So you've created a testing situation for yourself that's beneficial for developing your expertise while at the same time creating benefit for other people as well. Because probably

you teaching it to them after having digested it really well is actually going to make more sense than trying to learn it by themselves. Especially if they're untrained in this stuff. You can also test it just by the natural work that you're doing.

this stuff. You can also test it just by the natural work that you're doing.

There are probably decisions that you're making, problems that you're solving on an everyday basis that is the reason why you are learning this in the first place. So you

can think about the natural things that you need to do as part of your work and say, okay, this is me testing myself. If it's not enough, you can ask, like, how can I test myself even more? Like, how can I increase that opportunity? Or if there are little gaps, how can I fill those gaps? So you

opportunity? Or if there are little gaps, how can I fill those gaps? So you

might be doing a lot of high-level planning, but you're not really using a lot of that small, technical, detailed information on a daily basis. Cool, so just focus your testing on the little detailed parts that would normally slip through the cracks. And that's

where you could use little things like flashcards or whatever little other technique that you want to use. But every learning system should be composed of balanced consumption, accurate digestion, and comprehensive testing. Whether this is happening naturally as part of your work or as part of a conscious effort too. So you can

look at your own ability to perform with knowledge and then ask yourself where the biggest bottleneck is. If you are feeling like you're overwhelmed with too much information all the time, then this is too high. Or this is too low or low quality.

99% of people, that's it. That's where bang for buck is gonna be. And this

is the thing that takes a long time to get good at. If you feel like you're getting to a really good level of understanding, you've got that expertise, you've developed it, you are good with that knowledge, but then when it comes to actually performing with that knowledge, for some reason, you're not able to recall it as well as you wanted to recall it, there are little gaps that you're discovering later down

the line, you need to up your testing. And then you up your testing and then you realize where your next bottleneck is. It's actually very simple. So when I coach any type of learning, whether they're a student or a working professional with decades of experience, all I have to do is just ask them a series of questions.

Where are you finding the problem? Where's your current barrier? And that tells me very accurately where to focus in on, right? But again, for most people, it's just gonna be about balancing. So there's a couple more things I wanna talk about which is just, ways of applying this technique in slightly different ways. Um, but I'm wondering, uh, would it be helpful for you guys for me to do a demonstration

of the technique that I just showed you? I can just learn any topic you want me to learn on the spot and I'll just show you how I do it. If it would help you to get a sense for it. Yep. I'm seeing

it. If it would help you to get a sense for it. Yep. I'm seeing

some nods. So if you just give me a topic and I'll just show you what I do. Yeah, we can, we can go through. I have been studying it a little bit. So, but, um, usually cause I, tend to do things for accountants a lot of times. Anything to do with accounting I'm just like pretty bad at.

I have GST. Great, I hate it. Let's learn about it. Okay so what about GST? So give me the words to start with, GST.

GST? So give me the words to start with, GST.

Yeah give me the words. No, no, no, no, yeah. I do know enough to know what it stands for. So I had here taxable supply. Okay.

Yep, keep going. GST credits. Credits. GST

free items. Okay, yep. Then there's what it applies to, like motor vehicles. So application, can I call that? Yeah. Applications, okay.

Then you've got ATO. Yep. Companies. Yep.

Business owners. Okay.

owners. Okay.

And then just like taxpayers. Okay. Okay. Let's get two more.

Say cash flow.

Okay. Payment plans.

Okay, so that's just my very rough map of random ideas as you were speaking that is kind of like, I don't know if it's right but don't really care.

So there's a couple of things that for me stick out because I actually don't know what taxable supply means. So what does that mean? So it's a good that you'd have to pay tax on. Okay, so it's like an eligible, like something that you would have to, okay. So I'm seeing that there's a link between taxable supply and GST free, is that? Is that the case? Is there a link between, so

if something is GSD free, does that mean that it is not something that's taxable supply? Yeah, that's right. Basically, okay. Like the opposite. Right, okay. So that I can

supply? Yeah, that's right. Basically, okay. Like the opposite. Right, okay. So that I can see could connect into here. So this and this are gonna be connected together. I

think that's really kind of talking about eligibility is really the word that I'm looking for there. So I'm gonna have something that's called eligibility. And then from here there's

for there. So I'm gonna have something that's called eligibility. And then from here there's gonna be free versus taxable supply. Okay.

Where does cash flow fit into this? Why is that, how is that related to the situation? So I think, because what I'm explaining is the clients, they don't understand

the situation? So I think, because what I'm explaining is the clients, they don't understand themselves and what happens is they end up spending the money that they should have actually given to the ATO. I see. And then, because they're actually meant to hold 10% of what they're selling. Right. So this cash flow part is relevant because it's about how the business themselves actually manages their own finances in order to meet their

GST obligations, right? Yeah, that's right. So actually it's like kind of GST applies to certain things. Credits? Tell me about credits. Credits, they get back GST credits on things

certain things. Credits? Tell me about credits. Credits, they get back GST credits on things that they've bought that has GST on. Right, okay. So this applies part, it's probably this eligibility. That's kind of the same thing. So this and this probably should be

this eligibility. That's kind of the same thing. So this and this probably should be here. Yeah. Free versus taxable supply. And then when you spend it,

here. Yeah. Free versus taxable supply. And then when you spend it, you're gonna get these credits, but actually there's a part that's kind of bigger here which is kind of about your finance management, I think. And then this is actually about your cash flow management as well as the credits that you can have. And

when you do do it, you have to pay it back to the ATO which is here. And probably you can pay that with a payment plan, right? Yeah. Okay.

is here. And probably you can pay that with a payment plan, right? Yeah. Okay.

So this I can get rid of on this side.

Okay, I don't need this anymore. I rearranged that. What does that say? Taxpayers. What

does taxpayers have to do with this? So that's just us like as consumers. So

because the overall tax is meant to get passed down to the consumer. Right. So

it's like you give it to the ATO and then that's going to go. So

the taxpayer pays the good. They pretty much find it from the business.

Right. Okay. And the business is meant to hold it to the ATO. Yeah. So

I see. So I feel like in my mind there's some kind of business versus payer kind of balance here so I almost wonder if it's actually worth having something that's kind of like hmm GST so I almost wonder if there's actually an element of like the business versus the payer and you know whether that then connects with something else again because obviously business connects

with the finance management part here so maybe what I would do is I'd rearrange this so instead of being up here I actually swing it down so it's down here, it'll be easier to connect it later. But then this payer thing, like is there much more to do with this or is this literally going to be the only keyword? Because if it is, then I don't need this to be its own

only keyword? Because if it is, then I don't need this to be its own whole new concept. I can try to chuck it somewhere else. So these are the types of thoughts that I'm having in terms of how to arrange it. But do

you sort of see how it's trying to take a certain type of shape? You

may not be thrilled about GST, probably no more thrilled than I am. But compared

to starting with this, and getting to this, where I can look at this, and even if it's not completely correct, I can look at this and feel like, yep, that makes a lot of sense to me, that's fairly intuitive, I feel very logical, I'm fairly confident that if I rub that out, I can reproduce like 90% of that from memory without really having to spend too much effort. And that took all

of what, two, three minutes to do that, right? So it's not technically difficult, it's just that I'm not letting myself get stuck in just, oh, what is this, what is this, I'm just, saying, oh, it might be this, it might be connected here, or maybe that's here, and I'm just looking for opportunities I can simplify and group it. So you sort of keep moving on the go. I'm just keeping moving. So

it. So you sort of keep moving on the go. I'm just keeping moving. So

that pace that I was doing right now, it's a little bit faster because I can just ask a question and you tell me straight away, but honestly, like these days, just ask ChachewD and it gives you the answer, it's basically the same, right?

So this process of exactly what I did, this is exactly what I would just do when I'm learning something. Right? And you can just keep doing this like 50, a hundred keywords later, you can just keep doing it. And all that happens is that your map gets denser and more intricate and there's more structures and layers that are added on top of it. And then you, you know, you should feel that

as you are learning more and more, it's getting easier and easier and easier because you're getting more and more anchor points. If you feel like you're learning more and more and you're getting more overwhelmed, it means that your consumption is too high compared to your digestion part. Okay. Did anyone have any questions about the way that I was just doing that? Any differences to how you were doing that? Any questions you

want to ask about this? Feeling pretty confident. Did you have a question? I

was just going to say, I'm assuming this is just one tool. You couldn't have read the 200 pages before and done this on the fly and memorized it just like that. Actually, for just that book I did. You did? Yeah. So this is

like that. Actually, for just that book I did. You did? Yeah. So this is probably powerful enough that, you know, If you just learn to do this really well, it could be that this alone is enough for you to surpass every learning-related challenge you'll ever have. So it scales quite high with your level of skill.

There are other techniques that you can add on, little adjuncts, and especially once you start getting to that diminishing return point where your skill level is really good, there are tiny, tiny little optimizations depending on the context and the type of knowledge and the way you need to use it that makes little 1%, 2% adjustments. And those

things do stack up. you can get a lot of improvement just through that. But

most people, just getting that high yield improvement of just learning to do this like bread and butter is going to be a complete life changer in how they can process information. I mean, if you're sitting there in a meeting and you're learning something

process information. I mean, if you're sitting there in a meeting and you're learning something for the first time, talking to a client, whatever it is, and you're just sitting there and they're talking to you and you're just like, collecting information and mapping it out, and you're like, okay, I have six questions that I need to ask you, and then the questions you ask are just so targeted and so pertinent, and it

just shows you exactly that you know how to think about it. That is, first of all, very impressive. It creates a lot of trust in the person. They know

that you are thinking deeply about it, and it means that you walk away from that with usable knowledge, not just, damn, I need to spend an hour later going over my notes to figure out what just happened. Yeah. I have a question about, I mean this is obviously fantastic for kind of building relational knowledge. How do you approach it when you get to the point where you're reaching discrete facts? Very technical,

very detailed stuff. Yeah, good question. So there's two things about that. The first thing is that most of the things that we think we have to memorize because they're so disconnected and discreet, it's just that we haven't found the connection for it. And

so I always say that don't make the judgment on whether it needs to be memorized or whether it can be connected based on how you feel about it when you first interact with it. When you have that jigsaw piece and you first pull it up, every single piece feels disconnected. But some of those, like at least half of those, you will be able to look at it and then it will connect.

So it could just be that it's only discrete and irrelevant for you at your current point of learning. Have you done a PhD or... have

you done research? You've published, right? So when you do research and you're doing some kind of literature review, you gain very deep knowledge about this singular thing that probably no one else really cares about. And you become really passionate about this one tiny little thing. Those little discrete facts are relevant for you. So when someone tells you,

little thing. Those little discrete facts are relevant for you. So when someone tells you, hey, there's been this new solution that's come out that changes the chemical composition of this one little thing by a tiny little fraction, no one else cares, no one else sees why that's relevant. But when you look at it, you think, oh, wow, that's significant because that means that instead of doing it in this process, I could

actually change it to do this process. That might mean you can see those implications.

And that's just because you have the relevant anchor points. So the first thing is try to build the anchor points. And then after you've done your best attempt at really connecting it together, then see what's left. Those are the true discrete details where either it's so far from what you need to know that to get there will just take way too long or it truly is a very irrelevant detail that you

need to know purely probably because you're going to get assessed on it. And for

those details, smash them into flashcards. Ben had a question about bullet points a bit earlier. Was this a question about when you're reading a book and you're... Yeah. Yeah, okay, cool. I'll get into that. So the question that Ben had, and this is such a common situation to find yourself in, is that when you are taking in information, it's coming at you linearly. Obviously when I

say create a list of keywords, it's all omnidirectional, you can start anywhere, but when you're reading a book, there's a beginning and an end. So this is related to a topic that I call order control. It's a method called order control. It basically

says that you take control of the order in which you learn it. So you

can be reading a book, there's a couple things that you could do. You could,

for example, just skim through the book, collect the keywords very quickly. You could say, hey, I'm about to read this book and tell Chachapiti to generate you the most important keywords for it. also be perfectly viable. That is actually, like that very technique, just using ChatGPT or LLMs to just generate keywords for you to kickstart your learning is probably one of the single biggest time saves that an LLM can do for

you in generating expertise. Because that process of just getting keywords does very, very little for your learning. There's not really much engagement. There's not meaningful schema connection happening there. It's just preparation. So if you can cut that down to five seconds, good.

there. It's just preparation. So if you can cut that down to five seconds, good.

Like you should do that. As long as you're not using it for the schema part, the forming and the simplifying part. That's the part you need to do yourself.

So yeah, you can just go through and then pick through what the keywords are, or if it's small enough, so let's say it's not like a three, 400 page book, but it's kind of like a 30, 40 page report, right? And you feel like, okay, there's a discrete amount of information here. You can just try to do what I sort of did here, where as Anthony was giving me each point, I

was actually just, kind of making like my little map as I went and then just work on your map directly if it's a small enough cluster of keywords. Yeah,

and you can just make that judgment yourself. Okay, there was a question that, but she's gone now, but it was about sort of applying this for different contexts, like if you've got an assignment that you need to do, especially if you need to do some kind of writing. So this is a technique that fundamentally just helps you to organize your thoughts. It gives your thoughts structure. It tells your brain how to

think about this topic. So the application of this is any time you need to have organized thinking. You need to create a plan for something. You need to do a solution design. You need to create, you know, make a high stakes decision. You

need to fully understand a client's problems very, very deeply. You need to learn a difficult concept. You need to go through a new research article. You need to understand

difficult concept. You need to go through a new research article. You need to understand a brand new library or a new technology that's come out. It's fine. Every single

situation of those, especially writing, You need to write a report, you need to write something in a way that's very compelling. If you need to organize your thoughts, start with this. Just write down the key words of everything that you know you need

with this. Just write down the key words of everything that you know you need to include, map it up until you get to a point where it feels intuitive to you, and when it's intuitive to you, the expression of that knowledge is actually the easy part. It's just a matter of how you want to express it. And

then that is when you become a true expert. An expert is able to use that information very fluidly. You can say, hey, okay, this is the way that I'm thinking about the topic, here's how it all makes sense, Here's a layer of the land. You can present it to a client, you can present it to a stakeholder,

land. You can present it to a client, you can present it to a stakeholder, you can present it to yourself. And they might say, okay, well, yeah, I don't know about this part, but what about this? Have you thought about this thing? And

then you can say, oh, okay, well, in that case, you just move this here and move this here and we change this out. So it gives you that fluidity of knowledge and you can develop it very, very quickly. And I do wanna make it clear that right now, for the purposes of the workshop, we only use 10, 15, 20 keywords, but as you continue learning, this list will just grow. So you

can get really into very detailed technical stuff here. It's just that the map would grow and you can end up with 200, 300 keywords, no problem. Do you find that there's an upper limit of how big a map like this would be useful or is it just as far as you go? Yeah, actually the answer is yes.

There is kind of an upper limit. I found that when you think about a topic, the topic is probably the bounds. Because the reason we call it our topic is because we understand that there are certain connections within that and relationships that mean they're relevant to each other as opposed to another topic where there's a clear enough separation. So for example, if I'm studying from a textbook, there might be one or

separation. So for example, if I'm studying from a textbook, there might be one or two chapters covering our topic. So that would be the bounds for how I want to do it. I've had people say, I've got my entire medical textbook, can I just learn all of it through a single mind map? It's like you theoretically could, but you're gonna reach such a, you know, overwhelming amount of information all trying to

be condensed into a single map, that's probably beyond like a biological human limit of what your brain can actually process. And so you just arbitrarily make the decision to keep it small. But pro tip here is bite off more than you think you could chew initially. And originally you may feel that you can only learn like this amount and connect it together, but that's because you're probably not used to thinking in

this way. You should be able to cover like essentially like an entire topic, four,

this way. You should be able to cover like essentially like an entire topic, four, five, six times more than you normally would be able to and make it make sense if you do this. The problem is if you take too small of a byte, there's actually not enough connections in there for you to find meaningful patterns in.

So you don't get the full advantage of it. We are a little over time though, but thanks everyone for your engagement. If you have any other questions or things, we'll also be sending out an email afterwards. We'll have a little survey in there.

Just get your thoughts, a little bit of feedback as well. Just understand how the workshop's been for you. So if you can respond to that, that'd be really appreciated.

But you can also just reply back if you've got any questions about things. You're

applying this yourself and you're trying to use it. Happy to help as well. Thank

you everyone.