Let's Get Real with Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Yangtsi Rimpoche.🙏
By Pema C
Summary
Topics Covered
- Inner Wisdom Outshines Educated Wisdom
- If You're Suffering, It Means You're Good
- Real Power Has No Enemies
- Don't Use Enlightened Beings for Greed
Full Transcript
Welcome to a very special episode of Let's Get Real. Today, it's a great honor for me because I'm joined by someone I deeply respect and I've revered for many years. Jabji Dilgo
Khentse Rinpoche.
Welcome to the show, Rinpoche.
Thank you so much.
Uh it's a great privilege for me to have Jabji Rinpoche here sitting with us, la.
Thank you so much for accepting my invitation.
Uh my hope is through this conversation, we would like to explore Rinpoche's life, Rinpoche's uh wisdom, and the timeless teachings of the Dharma in a
way that can inspire and resonate with people like us, la.
So, thank you so much, la.
Mhm.
[clears throat] Uh I would like to uh start by asking Rinpoche if you could share your your journey, la, so far. Your Rinpoche's
earliest childhood memories till now, la.
So, uh first of all, Kamala, [clears throat] um I want to thank you deeply from my heart.
Uh I received information from my friend, Sonam, that you wanted me to come to do this interview podcast with you. I'm very happy.
you. I'm very happy.
Um okay, yes. Again, getting back to the
okay, yes. Again, getting back to the main point.
Early life of my memory would be, so to speak, if I make it short, not too long, is that um
one thing that I must say that repeats throughout is I always got in deep understanding that you know, everything is in your hands.
[gasps] For me, at the age of 2 and 1/2, being recognized as the incarnation of Jabji Dilgo Khentse Rinpoche,
I did not feel a sense of responsibility or whatever, expectation. I just felt life is now different. What I used to remember,
my father, my mother, my wonderful sister, my brother, and my caretakers, my friends, all are disappearing and now I'm in a ginormous monastery with uh unknown
faces.
And then under the guidance of Shechen Rabjam Rinpoche, and then uh very uh strict uh Tibetan Buddhist
rigorous training, and of course with the kindness guidance of my English teacher, Sally uh
Devaux Cin. Uh she taught me English.
Devaux Cin. Uh she taught me English.
Uh my two childhood friends, Dorji Tshering and Tashi Chime, with me. And
my life kind of began with that.
Yes.
I, as you know very well, I spent uh half of my life in Bhutan. in Samtse
That is why I can still tell the Parops there.
Nga che Parop chacha kamo sewa chin se.
So I joke with them and I say, I remember Paro from being a uh very cute, homey, uh you know, town.
You feel like it was like the in like America, we have the wild, wild west cowboy town.
Now it's completely modernized.
And I remember those days you used to take at least 2 and 1/2 hour to reach from Paro to Thimphu. And now it's like if you go very fast, 45 minutes and maybe 1 hour. And we have
[clears throat] traffic jams in Thimphu, so to speak.
Yes.
So I saw so much changes just in Bhutan itself, um not uh including other countries that I visited.
Now, if I may say something very crucial, throughout my journey of my life I will point out one uh three important
things that are I am very lucky. I have met some great enlightened being teachers.
Yogis babas sadhus so genuine, so lovely, such a jewel of a human being. Some of them are Tibetan,
human being. Some of them are Tibetan, some of them are Bhutanese, some of them are Sikkimese, some of them are Nepali, Indian, some of them are Westerners, some of them are Iranians also.
Some of them are female also and male also.
At the end of the day, they gave something to me that is so priceless and precious and I will never forget their kindness.
[gasps] Then the secondly throughout my journey, I met many people, I encountered many people and I come across many people, but
the people who if I may say so, come from a very, you know, poor background, so to speak.
That is the truth, you know. They have
nothing. They really have nothing. They
have hardly anything to feed their own self or family.
But my goodness, you know it still give me the goose bump and that tear in my eye.
The the innocence in their heart and genuineness when you come to see when they come to see you, they give everything what they have to you and they say only one thing, "Please just
pray for my family and me and may you live long and may you be happy."
I could not believe what I'm hearing.
That you have nothing, you're giving me everything.
This kind of people who I encountered Bhutan, Nepal, India or in the West, I will never forget them. I still remember them. I still visit them
them. I still visit them [gasps] and my loyalty and as we say in Dzongkha Tamchig will never I will never let them down.
That is the one sole reason I'm coming back to Bhutan. Last minute I made decision. I came from Nepal to Bhutan is
decision. I came from Nepal to Bhutan is to meet my good friends, my heartfelt You know, I will never let them go and I know they will never let me down also.
Ani Benetiqi, these people, these are friends who I can call my friends, my people, gave me the drive of encouragement,
inspiration to go on in my life, to do what I need to do and be complete myself, be completely myself, you know.
And lastly, I must always say um in Bhutan, through the connection I have from my predecessor,
Kyabje Thinley Norbu Rinpoche and his connection to and Aji Pem Pem, Aji Kezang, Aji Bebi Kezang, Aji Sabitri, they're all the
Kukor and Dorji Yeshi Badha, Dorji Ngapa and Dorji Ngapa Gima Yum, Yum Tshering Namgyal, all these connections I have with the royal family in Bhutan.
Since I was a young child till now as a adult, 33, 34 years old man, my loyalty with them has never been broken and um
I've always kept a wonderful heart-touching connection with them as always.
And I always like to say one thing, I am a Dharma practitioner.
I am doing my best to be the best version of a human being and most importantly, I am a law-abiding citizen.
Yes.
Ani Benetiqi, that is [snorts] what I would like to say uh to answer your question.
Thank you, la. Thank you so much, la, Rinpoche, la. Uh
Rinpoche, la. Uh how was it uh for Kyabje Rinpoche to be, you know, taken in the monastery, like your childhood, la.
Yes.
So, I must always say I'm very proud as a childhood, uh, when I look at kids nowadays and I look at myself, I must always I confess,
I always joke with my mother and she loves it and I say, "Mother, thanks to you, I'm the most cutest child ever."
So, [laughter] you know, it was a joke, of course. And then, you know one thing I feel very proud is Namgay Pelma, you also know from your time is that when we were young kids and when you young kids, we got a chance to
play with nature.
Yes, la.
Mud and insect and dogs and cats and and go in the forest and play with flowers and chase up the dragonflies. That is
called the beauty of childhood with nature, Mashi. That's why we call Mother
nature, Mashi. That's why we call Mother Earth Mother Nature. And
since I had that chance, I must say I'm very proud. I wasn't stuck on a screen
very proud. I wasn't stuck on a screen or a laptop or Gameboy. I never had interest.
Yes.
And, uh, of course, the perks of being a child was there, but the sadness also in my life was I noticed in my life as a child
growing up, I only saw one thing in the monastery.
Monastery always talked about the Dharma, the purity, and the teaching, but what I witnessed was power, money, politic, and all about,
you know, taking advantage of people, lying, cheating, being cunning, and shamot kamshe, shamot kamdami, and all that.
Yes.
This really broke my heart because of the Buddha, Guru Rinpoche, Vajrayogini, Mahasiddha of India, the great masters in Bhutan or Tibet, never did that,
never said that. They not just far away, but in our own generation of time the great masters who have roamed around Bhutan, roamed around India, Sikkim, Nepal, Tibet, or Sri Lanka, wherever.
They were just like us.
They were just like humans. They loved
being with us. They enjoyed with us.
They had a wonderful life, but they gave teachings and practice. They were, as the Americans say, practice what you preach. They were the living example of
preach. They were the living example of that. And you can, most importantly, you
that. And you can, most importantly, you can approach them any moment. You can go see them at any moment. Their door was open and they can come to visit you.
They stay with you. They were like a family.
Unfortunately, what I saw in the monastery was hierarchy system.
And uh I felt so disheartened because what I learned from my Khenchen Rinpoche, late uh father,
the one thing he always shine to me was, be humble, be have humility, have integrity, and always be there for the people who really need you. So,
I remember when I was young, I don't get spend time with my parents much, but whenever I had, I remember sometime like, you know, at times at 12:00 or 1:00 a.m. in the midnight, my father
1:00 a.m. in the midnight, my father would get up, call his driver, call his attendant, and go doing puja, doing cremations praying.
And after my father passed away, I had the joy of my life when I met so many strangers saying how my father changed their life, how my father took care of their debts, how my father paid
off their parents' medical bill, how he changed everyone, and how he was able to spread love, dharma spirituality wisdom
compassion, and equanimity. And the most importantly, he made sure everyone felt the fatherly love.
And I felt to myself, if he was just good to me and not good to other people, that is not a valuable, that is not a definition of a good human being. But he
was absolutely brilliant to everyone.
And he been a dig And he taught them see you need a dig.
When my father passed away, you know, there was a time where I had And my financial situation was very tough, you know. And so many people came to me and saying, "Don't worry, we help
you." So they took out whatever they
you." So they took out whatever they had, gave me money, gave me bought me food rations. I was crying every day there.
I couldn't thank these people's kindness to me.
And I couldn't believe I felt I still right now every day cry and I think about my father because not because I miss him, it's because I can't believe my father was so kind to me, you know. Even when he died long
ago.
Now I'm at this point and he was always telling me, "I won't be there for you when you grow up. But uh you will be just like exactly
up. But uh you will be just like exactly like me. But remember one thing, do not
like me. But remember one thing, do not mingle with Dharma centers and monasteries. Stay on your own ground,
monasteries. Stay on your own ground, follow your Dharma path in quiet." And
one more thing he said, "I will send good people for you who will become your friends and take care of them." So
And my father was true. It is happening now, you know.
true. It is happening now, you know.
And he been a dig.
I must be honest to answer your question. I suffered unimaginably.
question. I suffered unimaginably.
But I'm not going to be a American teenager and cry and say, "Oh my god, I suffered so much. I'm such innocent victim. Everybody's bad." I'm not doing
victim. Everybody's bad." I'm not doing that kunjusum. I'm not backstabbing
that kunjusum. I'm not backstabbing anyone. I I would tell myself every day,
anyone. I I would tell myself every day, "I have no enemies.
I don't snitch on people. I don't
backstab people. I don't betray people.
You even kill me, I will not fight back.
You betray me, I will not expose you.
Even though I know the sick dirty secrets of all these people who have done so wrong to me, bad to me. They are
Rinpoches, Lamas, Zasep Tulku, and whatever some of the disciples of my predecessors and so forth they did to me, you know, unimaginable. You cannot
imagine.
But here I am smiling walking in Timbuktu town, joking with everybody, hugging everyone, talking to elderly Argays and Angays and
young people and telling young couples, "Hey, fall in love, okay? Love is
beautiful. It's love job." I'm happy, you know. I am
you know. I am [sighs and gasps] I feel like I am the incarnation of Rumi, you know.
[laughter] Full of love. I'm dancing in my own way, you know. And this is what I find like
you know. And this is what I find like a practitioner should be, you know. I'm
not saying I'm brilliant, but I'm just saying I'm so grateful.
Very lucky. Every day I'm lucky, man.
And I'm pinching myself saying, "Don't be overconfident. Don't be
be overconfident. Don't be overcomfortable. Know your place.
overcomfortable. Know your place.
Reflect yourself. Improve, improve,
improve. Practice the Dharma." And you see, I'm one thing. I am just completely myself.
Daddy people who are watching this, you see me here, you see me on the street, I'm the same person. We have a saying in
same person. We have a saying in Tibetan, be the same person inside and outside.
That is the golden heart.
So, you see I suffered like hell.
There were times, you know, in my life I used to scratch myself and say, "Do I really deserve this? Like am I really that bad? Am I really a monster?"
You know, you can imagine, Pamela.
I used to receive thousands of emails and WhatsApp messages and WeChat telling people telling me, "You should go burn yourself. You should
go swallow a broken glass. You're a
monster. You're a devil. We will crucify you. Some people used to send me snippet
you. Some people used to send me snippet photos of me cut in pieces and then they are taking a hammer and hammering with nails. I mean
nails. I mean My mother used to look at me and say, "My son, I know you. I know you. I know you."
That's all what a mother my mother said.
I used to cry, you know, because I don't care about myself, but I look I felt so bad for my mother.
She doesn't deserve this, you know.
And still to this day I I tell my mother like, you know, "Whatever it is, I know you're going to die one day, but uh I want to make
you feel like mm I did not fail you.
You know, this is what I always tell my mother. And I always one thing I always
mother. And I always one thing I always tell myself, you know, "Come to you, I suffered.
I will never keep a grudge. The people
have done so bad to me. I've looked at their faces, some of them, and I said, "Look, I forgive you, you know."
I cannot forget. I'm a human being. I
still have scars, you know, like when I walk, sometimes I like my body shakes like this because I have scars in me.
And I'm not hiding it. Why should I hide? I want to be who I am, you know.
hide? I want to be who I am, you know.
It's it's high time that we need to be who I am. People tell me and say, "You're a
am. People tell me and say, "You're a young lama. You're good for the young
young lama. You're good for the young generation. You are absolutely wrong." I
generation. You are absolutely wrong." I
am a old soul and I'm just reviving the ancient tradition of how to be a genuine human being and how to be a genuine Dharma
practitioner.
This is the ancient tradition. This is
not the new age.
And uh you see lamas or Rinpoches who have done so bad to me and wrong to me, forcefully accusing me of things I've never done.
You see, the worst thing you can do to me is look at my face and knowing who I am and say, "You're a rapist, you're a sexual predator, and you are a beast."
Come on, you know.
I used to shake in my own hands when I was told that.
Yes.
And when I walk around, even parents used to come from Jakarta, and when they brought their little children, I said, "Please push them away."
You know, that's the fear I get still to this day. I love children. I have a like
this day. I love children. I have a like a fatherly love to a child, you know. I
love to be around children. I am a innocent heart.
But when people see me with young girls and boys, they immediately think I'm a rapist or child predator or whatnot, you know.
It's not my fault, it's their fault. If
your mind is you know, negative, please don't blame me, you know. Reflect on
yourself. Go chill, you know.
But it's heartbreaking for me because at the end of the day, you know, all this [sighs] Well, you see, um something
it happened to me, I must say. It's
something kind of changed now, you know, after for quite a while. Um
after I came back I did a puja in Bali last year in December, and then I came back to Nepal. I had a knee operation in Nepal because my knee was damaged.
And I'm still recovering. And after
that, I don't know, some sort of a wavelength, I must say, was changing.
So many unknown people, the public were showing me so much of love and acceptance. And the most touching thing
acceptance. And the most touching thing happened in Nepal recently.
I was struggling with my financial situation so much. I don't have a bank.
I still use cash because I'm a very old-fashioned man.
And whatever people offer me, I keep it, and I I always give money to people when they need it, you know. I don't I can't keep money so much.
I don't understand the financial situation so much. I'm very terrible in math also.
So that's why I live in that kind of situation. And in many years, day, tough
situation. And in many years, day, tough time with my finance.
And I always had this sadness in my heart, you know?
I was always forcefully told to believe my tutor, people when I was young, my tutor, and everybody used to tell me this like you're very stupid, you're useless, your
predecessor was like Manjushri and brilliant, but you're so stupid and useless and pathetic and disgraceful.
So, I believed it so much.
So, during that time in Nepal, having financial situation difficulty, you know, I just cried so much. And then I told my good friend, he's my attendant also, I said, "Let's go to Boudha Kora
as a walk." So, we both went. I said,
"Let's see what happens now. Let's just
go. We don't know."
When I went to Boudha Kora, in 1 hour time, almost 6 or 700 people from nowhere came around, start hugging me, taking
pictures, and and and taking chawa, and showering with me so much immense love to me.
And I couldn't even believe it. My whole
life, I've never experienced that in Nepal.
And the most incredible thing is I accidentally bump into one old lady.
She was from Upper Mustang, in what that part of Nepal.
I said, "Amala, I'm so sorry. I didn't
mean to." And then she looked at me and she said, "Where are you from?" I said, "I'm Kampa. My father is Kampa." And she
"I'm Kampa. My father is Kampa." And she said "Kampa?
Oh, okay. There are good Kampa and there are bad Kampa." And then she looked at me jokingly said, "I think you are the good one, no?" And then I just stood there like that, just let her speak. And
then most incredible thing, me having this heartbreak of being uneducated and illiterate feeling, suddenly she looked at me and she was stroking my face like that, and then she said, "Son, you know
what?
Inner wisdom is far more greater and brilliant than educated wisdom.
Your eyes say you have inner wisdom.
Never forget that, okay?" And then she saying that to me and touching me, I just burst into tears. I couldn't
believe it, you know?
I didn't want the old lady to see me.
So, I said, "Am la, sorry. Thank you."
And I ran. I I had to wipe my eyes.
Could not believe it. And I'll be very honest
believe it. And I'll be very honest today.
I am still a I'm a adult, but you know, I still shiver body when people tell me, "You have done good. You're really
good."
Great. When people say something positive to me, I can't accept it because I'm not used to it, you know?
I'm not lying.
I'm so used to being bullied and being told so many nasty things. I can accept that, but I cannot accept [snorts] positive words. I still feel very
positive words. I still feel very uncomfortable, you know? It's a trauma with me.
But at the end of the day, I want to just say one thing, you know? And I made it very clear on my Facebook page.
Whatever they have said and done to me, I will never say one word back back to them.
I will never betray them. I will still keep my thumb sick. This is who I am.
That's why I call myself the I am my father's son.
You know, that is the my quality.
See, at the end of the day, you know, if I be very honest, the sad story is there were times, you know, because I was told so many times by people, "You are a monster. You're terrible. You're a
disgrace. You should kill yourself." And
being told that so many times, I told myself, "If I'm really a really if I'm people think I'm a monster, then a monster should be eliminated, you know?" So, I started writing back to
know?" So, I started writing back to people saying, "Please, I'm staying in this room. I am here. I'm alone. I'm
this room. I am here. I'm alone. I'm
completely unarmed. Come and kill me, you know? I'm not going to stop you.
you know? I'm not going to stop you.
I'll be happy if you kill me because if you believe I'm a monster, please do it."
it." Because if I'm dead, in the history there are stories of slaying monsters. You slay me, someone
slaying monsters. You slay me, someone better will come and take over.
I was begging people to kill me. Have
you heard somebody say that? No.
This is who I am. This is my quality, you know. I beg people, kill me, please,
you know. I beg people, kill me, please, you know. If you think I'm a monster,
you know. If you think I'm a monster, I'm a child rapist, I'm a predator, kill me. There. Kuchie, I will put my head
me. There. Kuchie, I will put my head like this, cut it off, you know. I won't
stop you.
I you see something incredible happen in my life, you know.
I attempted to take my own life, like commit like commit suicide, 10 times.
Every 10 time, I could not do it.
Something somehow stopped me.
There was one incident that happened to me in Sri Lanka.
I was staying just outskirts of Colombo city.
And one night I wrote a long letter, goodbye letter.
I prepared myself, and I said, "Tonight is midnight."
is midnight." There was a train station. Every night
there was a internal train that goes around the whole nation. I know the station.
I said, "I'm going to go there.
I'm going to lay down, and let the train just crash me. That's it. Goodbye."
And I told myself, "I'm so sorry to my mother. I'm so sorry to my family. And
mother. I'm so sorry to my family. And
I'm so sorry to all my friends who love me. I failed you, but I wish somebody
me. I failed you, but I wish somebody better will come on my place."
And in between, I made my peace, and I was not fearful of death. I laid on the train. I could hear in my ear and feel
train. I could hear in my ear and feel the vibration of the train. It was
coming, you know. It was like It was making that sound of coming, you know.
Out of nowhere, this tall American tourist completely drunk, drinking beer, and like shouting and screaming, and he looked at me. He said, "What are you
doing? What are you doing?" He grabbed
doing? What are you doing?" He grabbed me. He pulled me out, and he kind of
me. He pulled me out, and he kind of slapped me on my hip. He said, "What are you doing being a loser?" He looked at me. and said, "You know what?
me. and said, "You know what?
Good guys always have to suffer. Bad
guys know how to get away.
If you're suffering, it means you're good.
Boy, get your life straight. Go back."
And he pushed me.
I was in a kind of a dream-like world, and I felt like Okay.
That's [snorts] it.
I want to live.
I want to live, you know?
And uh I told my mother, I said, "I'm so sorry, you know, I failed you."
And uh you know, and I want to also say one thing, you know. I've in my life, I'm not a monk. I'm never a monk. And
now I made it clear.
I don't wear robes.
I have long hair and earrings, whatever.
And I have had relationship before.
I must say only one word. I am very lucky that girl have girls have uh how to say, accepted me as a boyfriend. But I failed very badly as
boyfriend. But I failed very badly as boyfriend.
And I must say I take full responsibility, accountability for it.
I am not going to be a loser and say, "I was so great and those the women were bad." No. I would say, "I was the
bad." No. I would say, "I was the failure, and I will bow and say I'm so sorry."
sorry." You know, but I will say thank you for loving me, allowing me to love you back, and you know, giving me a chance to understand
what is [snorts] a relationship, what is a companionship, what is love, you know? I'm very grateful.
you know? I'm very grateful.
I have learned many lessons in my life, and it was very important. It was a eye-opener, you know?
And um at the end of the day right now, you know, I must tell myself I don't know what I did,
but I'm very lucky. I'm so lucky. I
don't know what I did, really. The other
day I was in Thimphu, the Buddha Buddha Sorry, the Jigme Singye Wangchuck is all married. people
came hugging me, touching me, saying can we take a picture? Can we take a picture? I was in Jang Yu Park, can we
picture? I was in Jang Yu Park, can we take I said please come. I I don't care, just do it, you know.
I said I'm here for you.
I'm not a bear, I'm not a tiger, I'm not going to eat you. Just come. I'm a human being, you know.
And you know what I tell you?
What is the most joy in my heart when fathers and mothers bring their daughters and sons and say please can we take a picture? And when they allow and give me permission to at least hold or
hug their children, you do you know how much I cry afterwards?
I go to my room and I cry. And I tell myself, I don't know what I did.
So lucky.
You know.
I'm a lucky man.
That's what I tell myself, you know.
It's just such an a blessing in my heart, you know, a true blessing. I always tell people blessing is not power. Blessing
is when you feel it in your heart, that warmth that safety, that unjudging unwavering love and compassion. That is
blessing. That is the hardcore blessing, you know, that we need. We need this so much in this
need. We need this so much in this world, you know. In Bhutan, we need this so much.
I am all with you.
You're all with me.
And I want to say one more thing.
Without the Jigme Thinley we will be dead by tomorrow. The Jigme Thinleys are supporting us with medicine, with love, with care, with shelter, with food, with
coffee, with water, with place to sit, with cloth.
So you're going to tell Jigme Thinley oh you go away, you go away.
We are so big up there. Okay, you'll be naked on the mountain there.
Tomorrow you'll be eaten by a bear.
So what?
The great masters of India were roaming around with people and enjoying their time talking, teaching.
That's what I want to do.
I'm not trying to imitate people. I
don't know I don't copy people.
[snorts] But it inspires me. You know, like the Americans like to say, it gives me butterflies in my stomach, you know. So
I don't mean anything. That's what I find attractive. For me, that is
find attractive. For me, that is attractive.
[snorts] Integrity, innocent heart, good heart, genuineness, a heartfelt wisdom is attractive. It's
the crisp of life, I must say. And it's
also tantalizing to my eyes and to my heart, you know. I don't mean anything.
I always aspire to better myself, you know, better myself as much as I can. And I have one more addition.
As you know, and the whole world knows, I have received so much accusation and very nasty backstabbing whatever.
I told myself, if you hate me, let me do you a favor. Let me come to you.
If you want to do something, hallelujah to do it to me, you know.
And I went I went there alone wearing a chuba.
You know what I did? I didn't do this. I
did this.
And I said, "Look here. My chest is here. You want to kill me?
here. You want to kill me?
There you go.
I'm right here for you.
Do whatever you want."
Complete opposite happened. All the
monks and lamas were running to me and hugging me and saying, "We love you.
We love you so much. We miss you." They
said.
And I said, "I miss you, too. I'm not a gay, but I love you, you know."
And I went to the temple. I was offering money. I was offering money to the
money. I was offering money to the lamas. Have lunch. Enjoy. Be happy. Live
lamas. Have lunch. Enjoy. Be happy. Live
life fully.
Be a good practitioner, okay?
Take care of your parents. Come to
church. You go. See, you know, come to get in trouble in school, you know. Be
harmonious. I mean two times.
Both times I was showered with love.
Even some of the campers, the high rank campers, who I know very well, who I have helped them when they need me, but who have betrayed me in the worst case possible, they were still saying bad
things and doing bad things to me. I saw
them with my eyes and you know what I did? I said, "Khenpo la, Tashi Delek.
did? I said, "Khenpo la, Tashi Delek.
How are you? How is your family?"
Take care, okay? May Kunchok Sum always bless you.
Then I walked away peacefully.
Peacefully.
I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing this.
I'm like this and I'm like this, you know?
Sometimes, you know, I love what I'm not a Christian, but I love what Jesus said.
May all shall be forgiven. May all shall be forgiven.
In the eyes of the truth.
That's it. That is a man, you know?
Sometime in Bhutan, in Tibet, we have this kind of like a ridiculous saying.
Men always like to show off to each other by saying, "Oh, uh if you're powerful, you need to be able to fight people. You need to have money and a
people. You need to have money and a fancy car. You need to have many, many
fancy car. You need to have many, many girlfriends. Oh, lady, you're very
girlfriends. Oh, lady, you're very powerful." No, no, no, no, no. That is
powerful." No, no, no, no, no. That is
the biggest loser.
Real power is no enemy, inner wisdom, inner compassion, always humble, never changing, always
transparent, always have integrity and humility.
That is a power.
Speak when you need to be speak. Keep
quiet when you need to keep quiet. Stand
when you need to stand. Protect the
innocent. Do what is right. And most
importantly, be completely yourself and live life to the fullest. And remember
the fullest. And remember every day remember bring with you love. Love is
beautiful. Love doesn't mean that you have to love someone. No. Just genuine
love. Spread it. Spread it everywhere you can cuz we desperately need it.
Thank you, la. Thank you so much. My
goodness.
That was uh quite powerful, la. Rinpoche, I just wanted to ask you based on Rinpoche's story la.
What What do Rinpoche think all these experiences taught you, la? Like
cuz I I noticed that Jampa Rinpoche kept mentioning be grateful and love life and all that. But when somebody is actually
all that. But when somebody is actually really struggling at the rock bottom uh it's very difficult to be grateful, la.
Yes.
And uh what has all these experiences taught Rinpoche, la? And why why do you think it happened, la? Like why did like such a great spiritual master like Jampa
Rinpoche yourself have to go through that la?
It happened.
Yes.
I had to take the task.
And to be really honest with you, Damla from my heart to your to your heart, my word is we shall never give up.
We shall never give up.
Cuz at the end of the day you have such special people in your life.
In your case lovely husband, devoted and loyal husband lovely three children and I'm sure you have wonderful family members, wonderful true friends.
Look at their faces and look at their smiles.
Amazing.
And how many people through watching your videos, you know, some you don't know or you know, but they genuinely admire you, they genuinely love you, they genuinely support you.
Look at their smiles, look at their hear their honest and kind words.
For me, the best thing that helped me was two things.
I told myself, "Am I going to be a loser or am I going to be victorious?"
I told myself, "I will be victorious.
I will fight to the death, you know?
I won't let anything to bash me down.
I will always win." And to be honest with you, Pamela, through my journey in I feel like whatever happened to me, it happened because as you know, everything is
unpredictable. People are people, human
unpredictable. People are people, human beings are human beings. It was a great lesson. I'm very grateful for whatever
lesson. I'm very grateful for whatever happened to me, Emmy. It was
hell, it was true hell, but you look at me now. I didn't turn out to become a monster. Instead, or I did not fight back to them. I did not become
bitter and fight back. No.
I did something even greater. I just
look at them and say, "I forgive you.
I forgive you.
I learned my lesson. I will keep my safe distance. That's it." Just like that,
distance. That's it." Just like that, Pamela.
I won't know what you're going through.
I cannot fathom it, but I can give you a heartfelt wish and a word is you know your strength, you know your value.
You must always have three things.
Your integrity, your honor, and your heart.
Mwah.
So, thank you, Ula. My My question would be I am sure Jamyang Rinpoche keeps getting asked question and this has become one of the highlight questions every time we speak to any
Buddhist spiritual leaders last spiritual teachers I mean it's about karma and free will like uh like Rinpoche said like that man who saved you from the the railway tracks
and pulled you out and he said good people suffer and bad people are just enjoying the life.
Why why does that happen la?
Like if karma if karma is all cause and effect and you are you keep doing good and you always be like very genuine and you give all your love and kindness to
everyone but you keep getting hit left right and center won't it in a way discourage people like us be like okay if you are a good person you get
hit by a lot of suffering so might as well be the bad person you know la. So
around around those lines if Rinpoche could kindly explain I understand fully. Yes you are right remember la in one point it's looks like that much.
But you know very well our society and the reality of our society is we live in a world that is so unfair.
There is no such thing as fairness there's no such thing as equanimity equalness no it does not exist because human beings destroyed it.
Yes.
And human beings are still destroying it and the most satisfied is it's a harsh reality. Good people will always suffer bad people will always
enjoy making others suffer. It is a reality.
Now if you ask yourself why isn't karma working?
Karma will work but karma is not in our is not in our hands. Karma is the law abiding rule put there by nature. No one
else by but it's done by nature.
We do not know when karma will come, but karma will ripen.
When is the time it will ripen.
And I'll tell you one story.
Say like you wanted your sons to learn of economic and business.
Would you rather send them to a rich rich rich rich billionaire and get hands over money and be like, "Oh, rich." Or
you want them to be experience life hardship and then from there experience and learn from good patrons and guidance
to learn how it is to be financially successful.
Say you want your son to be a animal doctor.
Would you just say, "Oh, you just live in the home safe. I bring some animal, you take care of them, and that's enough for you." Or you send him and he goes
for you." Or you send him and he goes through the wild and many many animal sanctuaries around the world, live amongst animal, clean the animal give
poop and all that, learn about animal give habits and all of this, and feed them.
And through that experience and guidance of proper people become a proper animal doctor.
Or let's say you want your son to learn art like you. You are a You are a talented artist because you did it from your heart, not because you learned it
from a you know, artist or whatever, you know? And in many days, just look at
know? And in many days, just look at that example as a personal example. If
you want your son to be a artist you won't you know, you won't just like send him to the best art school, the most expensive art schools in
make him learn. No.
You will tell him, "First start with the basics. Get used to it. Use your hands
basics. Get used to it. Use your hands and finger.
Understand that you and the art is the one.
Express whatever you have in your heart in the paper. Then you will do brilliantly. One time, two time, three
brilliantly. One time, two time, three time, there's no such thing as a bad or good artist. It's only a artist or a not
good artist. It's only a artist or a not a artist. Anybody dig it? Express
a artist. Anybody dig it? Express
[snorts] it out. And from there,
it out. And from there, your son can choose to be a certain kind of artist, this kind of artist, or Asian style, or Western style whatever no?
That's the brilliance of it. So anybody,
my answer to you is it's a reality. It's a reality checkup for everyone.
It's not in our hands, but karma definitely does.
I love the saying in America, what goes around comes around. It's so true. It's
comes around. It's so true. It's
unavoidable. Yeah.
Yes.
Yes, la. Thank you, la.
Um now, again, a very simple question, la. A very
simple and a naive question, I would say la.
Uh Jamyang Rinpoche, I've always been confused like uh we see so many of, you know, la, Rinpoches like Trikals and all that who can kind of get married and start
families, and then there's also another group like who chooses the life of celibacy.
W- Why the difference, la? I could never really understand that, la. When the
destination is the same and the path is the same, why is it that some can get married, start families, and some will have to be a celibate, la. Okay.
So, it dep- There are two matters.
Um some ancient traditions, like if you look at the Sakyapas, the Sakyapas have this ancient tradition of one brother should marry and one
brother should keep a celibate. It is
for one to keep the lineage and one to keep the lineage of the bloodline and the lineage of the uh, of the sacred lineage of uh, the Vinaya vow tradition.
Yes.
Okay? So, this
certain have this.
But, general, if you really ask me, I can't say the true answer now because it's a little bit naughty.
Okay.
But, uh, [laughter] you know, I mean, so, true, uh, answer is human beings, you know?
We have sexual desire.
I have sexual desire. I I admit it. I'm
not proud of it, of course, but I admit it, you know?
The lay many lamas and Rinpoches, sadly and unfortunately, the truth is they really make a lot of excuses. You
like is a woman? Be honest, you know? I
like a woman. I'm being honest, you know? Don't kill me for it. I'm I'm a
know? Don't kill me for it. I'm I'm a human after all, you know?
So, any Benedictine, it's a just a personal choice. But, I
think it's a very important for people to be careful and aware of what they're doing and saying, their code of conduct.
If you marry, just be honest. I fell in love with her and I choose to marry her.
Certain times, uh, great masters will tell their students, "Oh, you should marry this particular wife. Uh, you'll be a good
particular wife. Uh, you'll be a good match." And like that. Like, for for
match." And like that. Like, for for example, I can give you an example of my father.
My father didn't really have the uh, how to say, thoughts of marrying or whatever. He was
more focused on his own practice.
But, my predecessor, Acharya Kunga Rinpoche, had advised my father and my mother, "The both of you are good match.
Both of you should, uh, marry."
So, he also did the marriage ceremony for both my parents. So, rare occasions like that happen, but generally, I don't think so, you know? And I
be honest, I would prefer llamas and everyone and llamas and monks and kimbos and monastery people to be honest about it.
Yes.
And don't make a a big fuss about it.
And I think most importantly, you know, when you practice the Dharma, there are many people who don't want to face reality and who like to say, "Oh,
now I have given up everything. I'm
going for retreat. I'm becoming a yogi."
Please don't do that.
You know, if your wife says your wife said to you, "You're too boring of a man. I will go to retreat." Will you be like, "Oh,
to retreat." Will you be like, "Oh, Lazo, go." No, of course not.
Lazo, go." No, of course not.
You will fight and argue, you know.
Yes.
How can you be so unfair and dishonorable and say to your wife and children, "Bye-bye, I'm going." See? No,
no no.
Practice together.
If you want to be a a yogi, discuss this with your wife for a very long time.
Why did you even marry? Why did you even plan to have children?
And then abandon them like that and say, "Oh, I'm such a yogi. Oh."
This not a yogi.
That's not a yogi. That is a heartless act.
Heartless act of disrespect to your family and to your wife, of course, you know.
So anyway this is something I think is so horrible, so to speak.
I think as a practitioner, we must always have the symbiotic respect and communication and understanding with each other, especially with your family, if you have
one, and with your partners, you know, respectfully.
To to answer one question of yours, the end result, there is no end result for Buddhism. It's just a process for
for Buddhism. It's just a process for us. We don't chase after anything. We
us. We don't chase after anything. We
just go with the path of the process. As
long How long it takes it doesn't matter, but we just focus on the process of improvement, deepening in our inner wisdom, recognizing our mind, and
remaining in that aware and present moment, and becoming a better human being, so to speak.
So, that's the point. And to be honest with you, myself, you know, let's say later on if I fall in love with a girl, I'll just be honest with the public. I fell in love. Don't be mad
the public. I fell in love. Don't be mad at me. I'm a human being. That's it.
at me. I'm a human being. That's it.
Hallelujah. End of story, you know. I'm
not saying it's a condom mind that condom mind. I don't see women flying
condom mind. I don't see women flying over the sky, you know.
Thank you, Rinpoche.
Well, we're just reaching towards the last part of the conversation.
Yes.
I would like to know this is again my own confusion that this morning I was just thinking about it. Like
we keep saying like don't have desires and don't have attachment and don't be too attached and all of that and to the point that we've also been told that oh, if you're
if you're somebody who's making a lot of money, then you must be evil kind of a thing.
So, this kind of a notion is kind of going around to me like if if you're making a lot of money, oh, then you must be doing something and you're not very you're not
choosing and all that. Now, that is that being said because in in obviously in Buddhism we talk about non-attachment and all that.
Why do we then have like okay, if you want to if you want a lot of good luck in your life, you pray to Buddha Shakyamuni Buddha. Or you want a lot of
Shakyamuni Buddha. Or you want a lot of money, you pray to Zambala.
Why that difference?
Like in in one way we are being told that oh, you should not have this, you should not have desires, you should not have attachment. Whereas
have attachment. Whereas there's another part which says oh, if you want this, you you pray to them. And
all that I might be like a very stupid question but No, no, no, no.
I've been wanting to talk about this.
[laughter] So, I tell you one thing.
It's a complete rubbish. Complete
rubbish. You know why?
First of all, if you any of us Buddhist use utilize and use Tara and those enlightened deities for
our mundane messy messy messy greed to fulfill our greed and desire and attachment and our
small small wanting and likes, we are so stupid and dishonoring and devaluing the enlightened beings.
They're there to inspire us to let go of it.
Yes.
And be out of the samsara.
We are we should not be using them for this.
But you're right. I've heard many lump chops using it, but they use it for getting money for themself, you know.
They want to get money, so the excuse is oh, Lama Kaze Dzambhala sunny Dzambhala sunny and Dzambhala and whatever these things and Lama Nola and whatever. It's so they can profit from
whatever. It's so they can profit from that.
Yes.
To be honest with you, it is or not a crime. Let's say
uh you and you have a friend of yours.
You a very very very very poor. She's
very very very very rich. So what? Who
cares?
That's life. That's a reality.
Hallelujah to you. Hallelujah to you.
Who cares?
So what? What big deal?
It's not a crime. You had to work, you become rich.
You're living you're sacrificing all of this rich life. You want to live in your village, take care of your farm and animal and you know get your get your
hands dirty and work with the field and take care of your parents.
Good for you.
That's it.
That is the backbone of our society.
[snorts] Our culture, our tradition.
If the villagers we say in Nepali Gangkamanchi, you know, if the villagers in Gangkamanchi weren't there, how are we even supposed to eat?
You know.
Thank you for them, we can eat.
And I want to say one more thing and I know many people in Bhutan will be so angry with me, but I'm going to say it.
Thank [snorts] you to the butchers also.
We can eat meat.
I'll be honest to you, you know. I mean,
come on, you know, come on.
[sighs and gasps] Can we take a look at your kitchen? You
are like chop chop chop yaksha paksha yaksha.
Come on, you know.
Stop your meat.
Be the living example.
Stop forcing people.
I you know one thing one day what I like to do, I want to bring a camera and with a you know the what do you call that?
Mike?
And just before the Saga Dawa, I want to visit all the homes in Thimphu and Paro and visit people's storage room. Hello
everybody, are you vegetarian? Are you
vegetarian?
[laughter] I think I'm sure they must be like their hands I'm sure they have such muscles during during bulky muscles during just before the Saga Dawa, you know, because they
are like [laughter] Sell sell sell sell sell meat.
And all the aunties and uncles are like [laughter] You know, but in front of the TV [laughter] Oh my god.
Oh my god, what a rubbish. What a lie.
Who are you lying? Who are you lying?
Who are you lying?
Wake up. Wake up. Wake up.
This is not Buddha Dharma.
Don't be contradictory. This is very important. Don't be contradictory. I
important. Don't be contradictory. I
must say, you know, a couple of years ago I had this wonderful group of people who visited me and they had this initiative called Changsam Monday say.
Yes, I understand.
I know I know this lady who was I forgot her name now, but I know her and her family very well. And I used to support them very much
because I said that their initiative is wonderful, is genuine and then and to be honest with you I'll tell you one more thing to answer your question is
if people however the people key lifestyle I've seen sometime in Timbu, you know, when I walk around like when I got all these problems thrown at me, I
lost everything, I lost all my like physical aspect of wealth or whatever you call it, I lost it all, you know.
But I'm happy because I'm rich in my heart.
But physically key chaladi, I lost it all. So sometime when I walk around, you
all. So sometime when I walk around, you know, I've seen some talk shows and their sons and daughters like with the Range Rover and with the Mercedes and going boom boom tang be jo me.
But I don't blame them. It's a life, good for you, whatever, your cup of tea, not mine. Whatever, you know.
not mine. Whatever, you know.
So it's not a crime, it's a never a crime. It's a never a crime.
crime. It's a never a crime.
Whatever your lifestyle is, it's your choice. Don't be contradictory. Oh, I
choice. Don't be contradictory. Oh, I
want to say one more thing. I want to be also grateful, you know, to one segment of people in our society.
In our Nepali because I grew up in Nepali, so we know this in Tibetan we have in Bhutan we have this.
We consider the the how to say the race of the Kami, we call them the Kamis.
The metal smith. Barely roaring. In
Nepal it's so shocking. If you go to the village, when the villagers they're marrying their daughter or son, they will call village Kami. They make them sit outside. They will bring a separate
sit outside. They will bring a separate bowl, cup, and a cooking pot and make them eat and then they'll tell them, "Now work." They really treat them like
"Now work." They really treat them like as if they are like a vermin or a cockroach.
I find it funny. I want to prostrate prostration to the blacksmith. Thanks to
you, we can wear jewelry.
We can have all these wonderful things.
Thank to you, we have beautiful statues.
Beautiful artwork.
Such grand in history, you know.
Gandhara, Pala, Lichchhavi, such beauty and Afghani and Persian, beautiful artifacts these blacksmith did.
Thank you.
Respect. Salutation to you. You are not here, you're here, you know.
Never look down. I always say one thing, I have a motto. Never look up to people, never look down on people. Look, I try.
And I want to add one more thing, so people who are watching your show can hear me say this.
What you're doing nowadays in Bhutan is a very wrong thing. People nowadays do this new
thing. People nowadays do this new trend. Before I don't remember, now this
trend. Before I don't remember, now this new trend is when they ask for names, they ask for four or five Lama name then for their kids, for the baby, and they cut cut cut cut name and join join join.
You are dishonoring the name.
If you have a name from someone, just keep it as it is. Using or not using is up to your decision, but don't cut and thing because this is not your game or enjoyment. Allah my gave it from that
enjoyment. Allah my gave it from that trust. For example, like me, I have one
trust. For example, like me, I have one name from His Holiness. I have one name from my grandfather, and I have one name given by my late father. I keep all of
them separately, and I will use them in certain important times of practice or empowerments, you know? And I honor the name.
Any Benedict, please honor your name.
Don't cut cut and join because this is terrible. This is disgusting, and this
terrible. This is disgusting, and this is dishonoring.
And one last thing I want to say for all the fellow Bhutanese as a lesson for you all, please remember one thing.
I've heard this multiple times in Bhutan. People also say this to me also.
Bhutan. People also say this to me also.
Bhutanese people have this ingrained mentality that when you're doing something wrong, they never say, "I am not juicy. I want
to reflect on myself. I want to improve.
Forgive me. I'm so sorry." No, they don't have that word sorry. What they
have is opposite. Their word is very selfish. Their word is gom t'yom ale.
selfish. Their word is gom t'yom ale.
Gom t'yom.
So, you're only thinking about your feeling. You don't think about your
feeling. You don't think about your mistakes. You think you're Buddha? You
mistakes. You think you're Buddha? You
think you're dakini? Absolutely not.
You're making a lot of mistakes. You are
messing so many up. It's time for you to reflect. So, rather saying gom t'yini
reflect. So, rather saying gom t'yini gom t'yini gom t'yini, you should say, "I am failing. I am sorry. I am failing you. I will improve. Forgive me. I won't
you. I will improve. Forgive me. I won't
never let you down." I say this, you know? I tell people, "I will not fail
know? I tell people, "I will not fail you. I will never let you down. Forgive
you. I will never let you down. Forgive
me for my mistakes. Bear with me. Give
me a chance to make it up for you."
That's what I say. I'm the ultimate. Gom
t'yom gom t'yom gom t'yom, you know?
You're being selfish. You're so selfish, and you're more selfish. Now you're
jumping more deeply in samsara. Are you
want to getting out of samsara or you want to go deep in samsara?
Please wake up. Don't make the same mistake. Don't make the same mistake.
mistake. Don't make the same mistake.
It's very important.
You know.
Thank you a lot. Thank you. Actually,
that was going to be my second last question.
My second last question is uh Does Choegyal Rinpoche think that somewhere along the line that you
Rinpoche has made some mistakes and have you been able to kind of come to terms with it and also forgiveness love? How
forgiveness love? How How important or how in Buddhism is there like a thing that we must forgive? Uh if somebody is really like,
forgive? Uh if somebody is really like, you know, made a mistake like human being lodges no came in no sitting any forgiveness the is it is it fair love?
Okay, yes, thank you so much for giving me this opportunity. Yes, I always wanted to talk. Of course, I have make a mistake. Like in my life when I was
mistake. Like in my life when I was young sometimes I've said hurtful things to people I didn't mean or in my relationship I have failed and cheated
on my partner. Of course, I make a mistake, but I am not going to pretend like I'm perfect. I'm going to do something else. I'm going to say I'm
something else. I'm going to say I'm sorry, forgive me.
I want to improve and I have. I assure
everyone I have improved and I am a changed man. Here I am, you know, I'm
changed man. Here I am, you know, I'm not hiding it. And okay. Forgiveness.
Forgiveness is the step, right step to healing. It's not
just Buddhism. It's being a human being.
You know, I forgave the people who have done wrong to me.
You know, I've forgiven them, but I will never forget and I will stay far away from them. My safe distance, you know. I
from them. My safe distance, you know. I
need Benedict. This is my consciousness.
This is my awareness. And I'll tell you one thing, the more grudge you have, the more it will destroy you.
If you forgive, you know that is the healing. And one
more thing I want to answer your question is attachment we all have. I have
attachment, you know. I love a good Brazilian or Ethiopian coffee. Uh uh uh I like a good quality food, you know, there are many things I like. I like
antiques. I like a beautiful horse. I
like animals. There are many things I like. I I confess, I'm so sorry. But uh
like. I I confess, I'm so sorry. But uh
but I'm working on it, you know.
I don't want to be stuck in like like this, you know, clenching on things or too attached. I want to let go slowly
too attached. I want to let go slowly slowly. So, it
slowly. So, it it loosens the weight on my shoulders, you know. And I want to be more free. I want
know. And I want to be more free. I want
to be like a bird. So, I mean, it's an individual choice. If you want to be
individual choice. If you want to be more free, then loosen this. It will
happen. You will learn naturally you will learn it. How to let go, how to be slowly less and less attachment. You
don't need to do it right away. Slowly
step by step, of course. And this is not a crime. It's nothing bad or good. It's
a crime. It's nothing bad or good. It's
just a natural thing we human being we have attachment. It's understandable.
have attachment. It's understandable.
But learn that the more you clench and you grasp and you're too attached brings more suffering to you and suffering to the loved ones there.
Losang Jamcan.
Losang thank you. Losang thank you so much. My God, my heart is so full
much. My God, my heart is so full talking to Jamgon Rinpoche.
Uh my final question is it's actually very deeply deeply personal and again it's like from what I always wonder like when we talk about reincarnation and
because I'm unaware and ignorant and all that.
Uh when we talk about reincarnation now Jamgon Rinpoche is the reincarnation of Jamgon Kongtrul Rinpoche. Uh uh one of
the biggest, most respected, most loved spiritual gurus in our times.
What does a Rinpoche think the world needs right now?
If you have to connect to the teachings of Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche, what what do you think that the world really really needs? Like the essence of
needs? Like the essence of Chokyi Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche's teachings. What do you think the world
teachings. What do you think the world needs?
To be really honest with you, I never focus on the world. I'm not here to save the world or save the planet or save the people, but I'm here to do what is right, and I only believe one thing for everyone.
Do the right thing.
Yes.
Let's put aside Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche or all that, but just do the right thing. Listen to your heart. Do the right thing. Be honorable.
heart. Do the right thing. Be honorable.
Have dignity. Have integrity.
Listen to your heart. Always be genuine.
Always always do the right thing. Never
let your devil inside of you take over.
Never do that. It's all in your hands.
Never let ego take over you. Never let
greed take over you. Always be
transparent. Always be [snorts] Always have humility and humbleness. Always be
unchanging. These qualities are priceless. When people say, I've heard
priceless. When people say, I've heard people say, "Oh, I'm not a spiritual person but I have good heart." It must be a joke for you to say that because to be a
genuine human being it takes a lifetime.
It takes a lifetime.
Whatever I'm saying is it's a lifetime process. So, do your best. I support
process. So, do your best. I support
you. I love you. Do your best. I'm also
going on the same journey as you are.
Let's go together, you know, in hand in hand.
This is it, you know. That is the way how it This is the old style, you know, it's not a new style. It's the old way.
It's the ancient way. And how beautiful the ancient, you know?
Ancient have such a beauty. I think I always say I honor the ancient. I am
reviving the old style, you know?
And finally, I have a courage to say this to all my fellow Bhutanese friends.
May I say one word?
When you come to greet me, wherever I am, when you come to say hello or chao a shushe, don't do this, you know? I'm not a animal. I'm not going to eat you. I'm
animal. I'm not going to eat you. I'm
not a bear or tiger.
I'm a human being. Look at my eyes.
Eyes have a way of talking. The eyes
have a story to tell. Eyes is brilliant and tantalizing. Look at my eyes
and tantalizing. Look at my eyes and say hello.
And I will say, "How are you?"
So beautiful. Full of love.
Yeah, that is not a crime, you know?
So that is what I want to share to everyone. And I And I want to say one
everyone. And I And I want to say one thing, you know?
I have so much And I want to tell everyone one thing, please.
Whatever I'm saying, I'm just being honest and I'm really trying my best to be better, you know? So please bear with me.
And I'm sorry and forgive me if I'm bad or wrong or whatever. But
please understand one thing. Before you
point a finger and judge me, know who I am, understand me fully, then you make your judgments. And one thing I want to say is uh
me saying all of this and exposing myself and being very vulnerable out here like this, it doesn't give me anything. I don't get a million dollars or I don't get a building in Thimphu or
25 cars or whatever. I get nothing out of it. But I only get one thing.
of it. But I only get one thing.
I remain as victorious as possible and I have my integrity, my honor, and my values and humility I don't need anything. I will always be the winning
anything. I will always be the winning person here. And I want to say one more
person here. And I want to say one more thing.
My 100% blue eye body speech and mind loyalty for the people in Bhutan. All the people, not
adjust at the temple part of Bhutan. No,
no, no. The people further away in the village in all the mountain up there, you know.
My loyalty is with you. I have full loyalty with you. I have never betrayed you and never will betray you.
Please remember that. Yes, you all know my parents I'm a Tibetan. I'm a Tibetan in my heart, a Kampa in my spirit, a warrior, you know? But I've lived in
this nation. I've eaten this nation. I
this nation. I've eaten this nation. I
have wonderful friends in this nation. I
don't need anything.
Please remember my loyalty also.
100% loyalty. This is a not to lie. This
is a not a politic. This is the raw truth.
Just wanted to share. Yeah.
Yes.
I'm a Sumik Adichie Lam. Thank you so much Rinpoche. Now finally one last
much Rinpoche. Now finally one last thing. I'm so sorry.
thing. I'm so sorry.
Rinpoche if I may request your precious grace and if Rinpoche could kindly recite a prayer for all of us here, for me, for the viewers to live our life
more mindfully, to to have peace and love in our heart, and to be blessed abundantly or whatever Rinpoche thinks is appropriate. Whatever Rinpoche
appropriate. Whatever Rinpoche [clears throat] thinks, whatever prayer Rinpoche thinks would benefit us. Yeah.
Okay.
As you wish.
[snorts] Thank you la. Thank you so much la Jamyang Rinpoche for your profound wisdom, your presence and your timeless teachings la.
It's a truly I think the most blessed day for me la. Thank you so much. I really really appreciate it la.
much. I really really appreciate it la.
Tashi Delek Tashi Delek.
To all those tuning in to this episode of Let's Get Real, thank you for joining us la. I hope Rinpoche's teachings
us la. I hope Rinpoche's teachings brings peace to your mind and act as a daily guide in your everyday lives la.
I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the owners and the management of Yarkyi I at CL for allowing me to use this beautiful space and a special shout out to Studio IOX
for helping me with the camera works and the technicalities la.
Until then, stay live mindfully, have love in your heart and always keep it real la.
Namaste Tashi Delek. Thank you.
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