Love Story - The Truth About Daryl & JFK Jr

Do you remember at your hens party how you wanted to send Ben?

>> Stop it.

>> I've never told this.

>> Do I know this?

>> It was Supermaning across the bed topless.

She wanted to get a photo in the air like topless to send to Ben. And I've

never laughed so hard in my life. No.

>> Cuz like her whole body gravity, you know, like go to YouTube. It's on there now.

>> No. So,

>> hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura.

>> I'm Britney. I'm here sitting across from the smartest person in the world right now. I have come armed with a

right now. I have come armed with a laptop and my glasses. Yes. I'm so glad you noticed. I'm wearing glasses today.

you noticed. I'm wearing glasses today.

This is your superpower now. Britney

just took her reading glasses off and she was like dumb. Smartest person in the world.

>> Look, I'm sorry. Look at the transformation. Everyone, if you're

transformation. Everyone, if you're watching YouTube, people take me more seriously with glasses on. They do. They

respect me way more when I wear my glasses.

>> Do they respect you when they discover that there's nothing prescription about them? It's not even a lens. It's just

them? It's not even a lens. It's just

you poke my finger through and hit me.

>> Are they?

>> It's just a frame.

>> Are you wearing blue light glasses? What

are these for? Are they just for aesthetics?

>> Cuz they are aesthetic. I was just explaining to Kisha cuz Kisha also laughed in my face like a true friend.

>> Yeah. I I Do you know what though? I

think it's important to keep friends by your side that keep you humble. They

tell you the truth.

>> I don't need to be kept humble. I'm

wearing my glasses. And that's why Britney told me that I was trying something new and she hated your elf shoes.

>> Oh yeah. This is payback for the elf shoes. Okay.

shoes. Okay.

>> I never said I hate it. We do not need to revisit.

>> You never said you like it.

>> I said not. I said not for me, but they're good for you.

>> Look guys, I have glasses on. I don't

need to be kept humble because I've put my migraine glasses on. It's a bit of a bit of b. Are they aesthetic and I think they're cute? Absolutely. But they're

they're cute? Absolutely. But they're

supposed to help with focusing from I don't have any problem with my eyesight at all. But sometimes migraines can be

at all. But sometimes migraines can be induced by the time it takes your eyes to focus when you look at a screen and you read and then you look up to something in front of you like a person.

You don't know that you're doing it, but your brain knows and it strains. And my

brain's been straining a lot. And so I thought, hey, you know what?

>> I want to help my migraines and I want to look super cute and smart and I'm sick of being disrespected.

>> So what's in them?

>> Not glass.

>> No, I guess it's a I don't know. I've

had the same kind of lens forever. It's

like a doesn't help you see, but it helps you focus. But I don't know what that means. Like it's something.

that means. Like it's something.

>> I actually probably see better without them to be honest. I think

>> this is and I I said it before, but this is the equivalent of having a rhinoplastic, having like a nose job and saying it's for a deviated septum. It's

not the same. It's the same. It's the

same as an influencer getting a nose job and then saying I had a deviated septum everyone's, but I also got this cute little ski jump. Well, I'm pretty sure my neurologist who studied for 15 years

>> also has also has a ski jump >> is right. Okay. Okay. It's a thing. But

I like them.

>> I like them too. If you if you're not watching on YouTube, everyone Brit's trying something new today.

>> And also, you know what happens? I've

walked in every day without my glasses and no one notices me. I put them on today and someone went, "Good morning, ma'am."

ma'am." >> No, they didn't. I'm alive. I'm alive. I

do feel like I'm taken more seriously with them. I want to tell you this funny

with them. I want to tell you this funny story. So, yesterday I was getting my

story. So, yesterday I was getting my hair and makeup done. We're on set filming and it takes hours, right?

You're sitting in the makeup chair for hours. I was on my phone reading my

hours. I was on my phone reading my messages, doing my work, whatever. And I

I got a message come up. Opened the

message and a big sexy photo popped up on my screen. Like

lingerie, what are they called? The

garter belt that goes around your leg.

>> Suspenders. A guard.

>> Suspenders, high heels. It was like from behind like she was bent over the kitchen table. She was and you could

kitchen table. She was and you could just see like she had a G lacy g-string on full booty. It was hot. Like it was super hot but super runchy. Why' you

send that Laura?

>> Anyway, >> I just got dressed up that morning.

Thought Brit would like it.

>> It was from Ben. It was from Ben. So Ben

had sent it to me and I as And I had the new phone, you know, the really big one.

Like the really big phone.

>> It's like walking around with an iPad.

>> Yeah. So I like panicked and I was like, "Oh my god." And I looked up and my makeup artist was looking over my shoulder. So, she saw it and so I

shoulder. So, she saw it and so I quickly got out of it and I looked at her and I saw that she was watching my phone and I said, "Oh, I'm so sorry."

She's like, "It doesn't matter. I don't

care what you look at." And I was like, "What do you mean what I look at?" And

she's like, "Oh, well, obviously you're looking at Only Fans." And I was like, "What?" And she's like I was like, "No,

"What?" And she's like I was like, "No, I'm not looking at Only Fans." And she's like, "Well, what was that?" And I was like, "That was me.

I had sent a photo to Ben years ago."

Like you know when you're in the new throws of a relationship. I had dressed up, dolled myself up, put all this lingerie on. Self timed a photo in the

lingerie on. Self timed a photo in the kitchen. In the kitchen.

kitchen. In the kitchen.

>> Self time. His kitchen too. He was at work. You know when you're like I

work. You know when you're like I remember I think it was Esther Pel where she's like start the starts the second that sex ends.

>> So it was one of those things like can't wait for you to come home. Anyway, sent

it to Ben. This is years ago. He was

trying to find something in his old messages. He came across a photo and

messages. He came across a photo and thought, I don't know why he thought I'd want to see it again. So, he sent it back to me, but she's looking over over my shoulder. She saw me in a way that

my shoulder. She saw me in a way that nobody should ever see me, but that was one thing. And then I was like, [ __ ]

one thing. And then I was like, [ __ ] should I have told her that was me or should I have stuck with it being an Only Fans? I was like, should I have

Only Fans? I was like, should I have just said I'm on looking at naked women on only fans or it was me? I was like, this is I'm really torn. So, I was like, no, you're right. It was Only Fans. I

went with Only Fans. I think it's fine.

You can Yeah, you can scroll Only Fans, but what's she going to say? What is she going to say? You're like, don't shame me. No, there's no shame in that.

me. No, there's no shame in that.

>> Pornhub's now banned in Australia.

>> It is banned in Australia.

>> What do you mean? Pornhub is banned in Australia as of like yesterday.

>> Unless you had an existing account apparently. I was listening to the Daily

apparently. I was listening to the Daily O talk about it this morning.

>> What? Tell me more.

>> Yeah, it has to do with age verification and porn >> cuz you're so young, Brit.

>> Pornhub have to bring in like actual age verification, not just click a button.

Yes, I'm over 18. And so if you go on to the website now, you can't see any porn.

>> Wait, so this came in only this week.

It's actually been passed. Don't pretend

you haven't noticed.

>> Yeah, you love it.

>> No, this has been something that's been in dispute and it's been like the um the policies have been discussed on this for so long. Pornhub has been saying that

so long. Pornhub has been saying that it's something that's like an impossibility because it's going to be a data breach. It's going to be so

data breach. It's going to be so challenging for people's personal information, but like it's the only way to protect children from being able to access porn so freely. Thank god this has come into effect. How I missed this.

I've been living under a rock. But that

is like that's a good news week. Well,

yeah. The one other thing that I thought was really interesting is that apparently it's the ninth most popular website in Australia ahead of the bomb.

People care more about porn than the weather.

>> I'm not surprised about that. But you

would be upset if you were the bomb because apparently they spent like $19 million in developing that site. So no

90 or 19 anyway. Don't come to me for the the truth or the facts. They could

have used Claude AI, but Pornhub because it's not just that they're banning like new users that are underage because you have to provide your verification because you have to provide verification

now of your age. Pornhub have cracked it and banned everyone. If you have a pre-existing account, you're fine. But

no one of any age can use Pornhub in Australia right now. How many people do you think are listening to this podcast now? They're googling Pornhub just to

now? They're googling Pornhub just to see if it's legit. It's like the wet paint sign.

>> But there was a real increase in VPNs yesterday. Well, everyone's using a VPN.

yesterday. Well, everyone's using a VPN.

>> I actually think that this is fantastic.

I know that obviously if it's come off the back of Pornhub cracking it and being like, well, if you're going to put restrictions on us, we're going to stop everyone from being able to access it. I

mean, there's some crazy statistic which is like children at the age of 13, majority of children have already been exposed to pornographic material by that age. They've already seen pornographic

age. They've already seen pornographic material. So, like this had to come into

material. So, like this had to come into effect. So whether or not they're doing

effect. So whether or not they're doing it, I know, but whether or not they're doing it as like a throw the toys out of the pram, if we have to follow these rules and no one can have it, I'm kind of like at least that there is like some sort of response that's happening in

this because it is >> very weird flex for them. Weird to say like, oh, we're going to lose a tiny bit of money, we'll lose it all. Like it

just seems weird.

>> The fines are up to $50 million.

>> Yeah, it's not a tiny. Yeah, I think that the problem is that the responsibility is humongous and that's why they're trying to make a big stance around it cuz they're like, well, if we're not able to uphold whatever the verification is that you're putting in place, the magnitude of the fines are too big.

>> Yeah. So, great time to be launching an Only Fans.

>> I'm glad you started with one picture and a makeup artist.

>> Well, do you know what I thought? I

don't often say this. Remember when I did that nude, guys, that I got you to approve many years ago where I did the nude and the vase was like strategically covering my body. Do you guys remember that?

>> I do remember. So, like I wonder if other people do this. Do you ever vet your nudes by your friends? Brick came

in this one day and she was like, "I have this nude."

>> I was like, "Is this hot or not?"

>> And it was like slightly artistic, but I didn't know what it was that I was about to see. Like, you didn't you didn't ask

to see. Like, you didn't you didn't ask me for consent to view the image first >> because you didn't actually see anything.

>> No, but also you were like, "Hey, have a look at this photo. Can I send this to Ben?" And I was like, "Wow, that's yes,

Ben?" And I was like, "Wow, that's yes, you can send that to Ben." Um, but you you didn't ask if you could send it to me and to my eyeballs. But yes, but in my defense, you're making it sound like I assaulted you with my vagina. I was

covered. The whole point of it was was artsy. So like the vase covered a little

artsy. So like the vase covered a little bit and the flowers covered the boobs and like it was a nude without it being nude. Like it was super artsy. Like I

nude. Like it was super artsy. Like I

could have blown it up and entered it into like some kind of Nobel Prize thing.

>> Do you remember at your hens party how you wanted to send Ben Stop?

>> Funny. I don't know if we've ever told this on the podcast. I don't know how I got roped into this. at some point.

>> Do I know this?

>> It was supermaning across the bed topless.

She wanted to get a photo in the air like topless to send to Ben. It was so funny and she showed me and I've never laughed so hard in my life. No,

>> cuz like her whole body gravity, you know like >> go to YouTube. It's on there now.

>> No. So, hang on. At my hands party thought it would be cute to send Ben I don't know what is wrong with us. We

spent too much time together. like a hot photo, topless photo. We're like, "Let's send him a topless photo of the both of you."

you." >> No, just me. But someone had to take it.

Someone had to do the photo shoot. So,

we tried. This is You guys know how awkward I get. I did a couple of serious ones that I thought were hot. And then I was like, I can't just send him this.

It'll be funnier if I send him a stupid nude. So, instead of sending him a sexy

nude. So, instead of sending him a sexy nude, I ran through the air and I supermaned sideways. I was completely

supermaned sideways. I was completely horizontal across the bed. Then, Kesha

snapped the photo midair. Very athletic,

very nimble. But because I the gravity my boobs were just these tiny little white pointers that were hanging to THE GROUND AND LIKE HANGING UP. It was like >> they were like flying through the air.

It was the It was the least sexy thing you've ever seen. And that's the photo that I sent him.

>> It was so funny.

>> He's like, "What the fuck?"

>> Anyway, yeah. So, not only do my friends vet my nudes, they take them.

>> I don't even know where to go from here.

I can confidently say I've never had a friend take a nude. Never in my life.

>> I'm going to do it for you for your 40th. I'm going to give you a shoot that

40th. I'm going to give you a shoot that nude photo shoot that I can send to Matt. A tasteful nude photo shoot.

Matt. A tasteful nude photo shoot.

>> We have been trying to think what we can get you. Can I nude shoot you?

get you. Can I nude shoot you?

>> I sent Matt like an almost nude recently. Actually, it wasn't even a

recently. Actually, it wasn't even a nude. It was an old one and he was just

nude. It was an old one and he was just like, "Why did you send that?" Like, it was like from the archives. It was kind of like how Ben sent you one of yourself. I sent one that was from the

yourself. I sent one that was from the archives, but it was of me. And he was like "Why?"

like "Why?" >> Did he know it was the archive one?

>> Oh, yeah. [ __ ] They don't look like that anymore. Nothing looks like that

that anymore. Nothing looks like that after three children. And he said, "Why?" I that we like Matt, that's not

"Why?" I that we like Matt, that's not the answer.

>> No, he was just a bit like, why did you send it? We're not at the nude stage

send it? We're not at the nude stage anymore. Something happens when you've

anymore. Something happens when you've been with your partner for a long time.

They've seen you birth three children.

Like the concept of sending Matt a nude no longer feels like it's sexy. It feels

like it's funny. Like it doesn't actually feel like it would I don't think I would get the desired response from him. And if he just sent me a nude

from him. And if he just sent me a nude as well, I'd be like, why? Why did you send that?

>> I think you're underestimating it. I

still think Matt I know Matt would happily receive a nude from you. He'll

take what he can get. The guy will take what he can get. Don't withhold that from him. I can take one of you.

from him. I can take one of you.

>> I'm I'm okay.

>> You seen my art?

>> I did. I saw your boobs yesterday. Thank

you. They're great. They're great. Proud

of you. Okay. Well, look, I have a question for you. Have you ever stolen anything from your parents?

>> Just their desire to live.

>> Their dignity, their dignity, >> their will to live. Just their freedom.

>> Yeah. I stole their cigarettes when I was young, but that wasn't for me. That

was so that they couldn't have them. And

that did not end well. I stole alcohol from my mom. That was one thing. Like,

you know, when I was going to parties when I was like 16, 17, I would steal liquor and I'd top it up with water.

>> As if they didn't know, right?

>> No, I don't think my mom did.

I don't think she had any clue.

My parents didn't drink, so there was never alcohol to steal. I never had anything to steal.

>> Did you ever steal money? Did you ever steal clothes? Like is there anything

steal clothes? Like is there anything that you took from your parents knowing like full well knowing that you'd taken it? You shouldn't take it.

it? You shouldn't take it.

>> Yeah, I stole one borrowed for a long time one of my mom's like really nice bracelets. It was like a really big

bracelets. It was like a really big chunky bracelet and in hindsight it was a really bad thing to do cuz it was probably one of her favorite pieces. I

think it was expensive, but I loved it.

And I didn't know I didn't know at that time, you know, when you're a teenager, you just don't really know the ins and outs of like anything of your of your parents' life or whatever. And I just thought that was [ __ ] sick and took it. And I remember she asked me for it a

it. And I remember she asked me for it a few times. She's like, "Have you taken

few times. She's like, "Have you taken it?"

it?" >> And I said, "No, cuz I panicked. You

know when you panic and you dig yourself into a hole and you lie?"

>> And I lied. And I don't know why I lied because mom was like, "I can't find it anywhere." And she was really upset

anywhere." And she was really upset about she ended up seeing in a photo. I

was at uni in Newcastle. She ended up seeing it and I was like, "Oh my god, I found it." And then I gave it back to

found it." And then I gave it back to her. But I just loved it a lot. I just

her. But I just loved it a lot. I just

didn't want to give it back to her.

>> Wait, so she saw you wearing it in a photo?

>> Well, she always knew I had it. But she

knew you were lying. She knew you were straight up lying to her.

>> Yeah, she knew I had it 100%.

>> Yeah, >> but I liked it. [ __ ] Kids suck. I know.

But I gave it back to her. She's got it now. She still has it today.

now. She still has it today.

>> Well, how did she respond when you gave it back to her? Oh, you little sneaky [ __ ] That's what my mom would say.

like you little sneaky so and so. That's

what she would say. So Marley, she's 7 years old now. Well, no, actually it's a lot. She's six. She's almost seven. She

lot. She's six. She's almost seven. She

often takes things from me that she she's like a bow bird, right? like she

takes things that she thinks are nice and then I find them in her room and like I try to explain to her >> the inherent value in stuff, but it's really hard when she's only like almost

seven and she doesn't quite understand like that this thing like you know if this thing costs this much money or this thing costs this much money. Like money

is like an arbitrary idea to her especially when she can go busking and earn $3,000 in 20 minutes.

>> Yeah. She's basically a deal. So once a month I go through Marley's bag backpack and I clean out like what's in it because kids and backpacks they kind of just end up becoming like a a like a dumping Yeah. a dumping zone for

dumping Yeah. a dumping zone for everything. Right. Every so often she's

everything. Right. Every so often she's picked up random things that she probably shouldn't have. Always things

that are not a big deal like a matchbox car that she's found in the playground or like some dice or just random [ __ ] that accumulates in the bottom of her bag. So anyway, I was putting Molly and

bag. So anyway, I was putting Molly and Lola to bed the other night and Matt comes up to the room and he goes, "Hey babe, I think Marley's taken something of yours and I think it's not something

that is inexpensive." And I was like, "What are you talking about?" Anyway, I went downstairs. Not only had Marley

went downstairs. Not only had Marley stolen a diamond ring from my jewelry box, she'd put it in its own little like special jewelry box holder. She'd put it

in her backpack and she'd been taking it to school to show her friends. She had

been taking a $2,000 show and tell not even show and tell cuz the teach she knows it's wrong. She didn't tell the teachers. You

teachers. You >> think she was going to propose?

>> A $2,000 ring that she took to school because she has a boyfriend who she wanted to show. And I was like, "Marley, that ring is so expensive." And she goes, "Yeah, it was really pretty one. I

picked a really nice one. Just wanted to show. And I don't want to say his name

show. And I don't want to say his name just in case anyone from school listens, but she took a diamond ring to school to show a boy.

>> I think she's setting the standard.

She's saying, "This is what I deserve.

This is what I need in life. Get used to it buddy."

it buddy." >> Do you know I saw this last week? This

is like that on steroids.

>> Thank god she didn't [ __ ] lose it.

>> Well, yeah. It's probably not either you.

>> Oh, no. It's not. Of course not.

>> But I literally saw this last week.

There was a little boy, a dad that was doing a real on Instagram. He was in America, but him and his mom were in hysterics and they called the daughter over. She was like 6 years old and

over. She was like 6 years old and they're like, "Hey honey, show us what Tyson gave you today." This little boy from school and she comes up and she goes, "Tyson gave me a ring." And she's like, "Show us, honey." Pulls it out.

Tyson, another six-year-old boy, had stolen his mom's engagement ring, took it to school and proposed to her at 6, gave it to her, and she took it, accepted it, and took it home. She had

some random boy's mom's engagement ring at home. And he's like, "Where does he

at home. And he's like, "Where does he live, honey? We need to give this."

live, honey? We need to give this."

Anyway, these are kids just stealing engagement rings left, right, and center. a family heirloom.

center. a family heirloom.

>> It's cuz they don't know how much it's worth. Like Marley will take Tony May

worth. Like Marley will take Tony May rings or things that I have like lying around the house and because like often I come home with jewelry from from work.

She thinks that it's just like she doesn't understand the value in it. But

what I found funny was the fact that she took it to show a boy cuz she was like this is kind of the one. This is what I want. Anyway, I asked this morning I

want. Anyway, I asked this morning I asked her this morning and I was like >> and I love the Maldives. I was like how is how is your boyfriend? And she's like oh we broke up. I was like what do you mean? you were only dating for about 4

mean? you were only dating for about 4 days. And she's like, I realized I'm too

days. And she's like, I realized I'm too young to have a boyfriend.

>> I realized quicker than you did.

>> I was like, yeah, live your life, girlfriend. Live your life. Go out

girlfriend. Live your life. Go out

there experience.

>> So, she broke up with him cuz she didn't want to be tied down.

>> Don't settle down.

>> Don't settle down at six.

>> It's too soon.

>> So, they're actually having boyfriends, are they?

>> Have some more experiences first. Yeah.

Their obsession with boys as a six-year-old is crazy. And I think it comes from things like K-pop demon hunters. And it comes from like

hunters. And it comes from like different TV shows because a lot of like the kids TV shows now there's a love story element to it. Like back in the day, apart from Blueie, we were watching [ __ ] like Rugrats and stuff. Now it's

like the stories.

>> We still had we still had crushes though. Like I think it's so biology.

though. Like I think it's so biology.

>> Yeah. Speak for yourselves.

>> No, I did too.

>> No boys Catholic school.

>> I wasn't when I was in primary school.

No, I No. No boys wanted to touch me with a 10ft pole. I had an undercut.

It's cuz you stole your mom's alcohol.

>> I'll show you how six came to school drunk.

>> I'll show you like [ __ ] Laura. What's

wrong with that kid?

>> Hang on. We can't bypass brush past the undercut. You had an undercut.

undercut. You had an undercut.

>> Yeah, like a an undercut.

>> Speak to the manager kind >> How long was the top?

>> So, okay. I lied to my I lied to my mom.

I wanted to get my haircut. I had really long hair and I said to my mom, "Can I get my hair cut?" And she was like, "No, you're not getting it all chopped off."

And then when I was at my dad's house, cuz my parents were separated, I said to dad, "Oh, dad, mom said I could get my haircut." And he took me to the

haircut." And he took me to the hairdressers and he was like off to go and do something while he left me at Just Cuts. And I was like,

Just Cuts. And I was like, >> let's cut the $15 cut.

>> To the lady, I was like, "Just just cut it. Just go short." I had a Kha moment and then she cut it and I was like, "Shorter." And she goes, "If we go

like, "Shorter." And she goes, "If we go any shorter, we got to shave the back."

And I was like, "Go for it." And then I went home to my mom with a shaved undercut and my mom cried. So Laura's

like, "It was really confusing. I don't

know why none of the boys liked me."

>> And then I was a virgin until I was 17.

>> Dude, that's young. 17's not You're not old and haggarded. 17. YOU'RE STILL JUST LEGAL. I gradu I finished school at 17.

LEGAL. I gradu I finished school at 17.

I was at university. No, I didn't.

That's a lie. This is like a little bit of a switching gears in terms of mood, but I had one of the most intense things that I've ever experienced happen last Thursday afternoon. And to start the

Thursday afternoon. And to start the story, I want to say that everyone is safe, all animals are safe, but my neighbor's house caught on fire. So, it

was quite late in the afternoon. It must

have been about 4:30 or something like that. And I was working in the study and

that. And I was working in the study and I heard these big bangs and I went out and hilariously my partner and I, we actually blamed each other. I was like, "What the [ __ ] are you doing? like, "Why

are you making all this noise?" And he's like, "I thought you were making it."

And to try and cut a bit of a longer story short, there was all this commotion out the front. I went out the front, there were quite a few strangers and they were like, "Is that your house?

Is that your house?" And I turned around and there was this humongous black cloud around our backyard.

>> And oh my gosh.

>> So, I ran out to the backyard and it's at this point that I can hear I can hear this like But it was really really loud and I could feel this heat and there was all

of this smoke. So our neighbors back laundry kind of area like our houses are really old. Our house is 105 years old.

really old. Our house is 105 years old.

So I'm assuming that theirs is around about the same age. And so this would have been an outhouse that has been converted into a laundry and it is

completely engulfed in flames.

>> I wonder if it was like the dryer or something that caught on fire. Well, we

do have a bit more information now. So,

the first thing is I was like, "Oh my god." And I could hear her screaming and

god." And I could hear her screaming and there was there was like a lot going on.

Anyway, so my partner has like kind of thrust me up onto the top of our shed and I had both of our hoses and I was kind of trying to stop the fire from spreading to the trees cuz if it caught the trees, the entire street would be

over.

>> At one point, she got locked in the backyard. All of our neighbors really

backyard. All of our neighbors really rallied together and one of my other neighbors jumped her back fence because that was locked with a padlock and one

of the businesses nearby actually handed over one of those massive fire extinguishers. So, at this point, there

extinguishers. So, at this point, there was the neighbor and I both trying to hose this this uh flames, I guess, like this whole thing that was on fire down,

and this business that is on like a parallel road had brought over a fire extinguisher. And it was because of that

extinguisher. And it was because of that fire extinguisher, and I don't say this with any theatrics, it's only because of that fire extinguisher that I'm convinced that our whole house is not burned down because that was the only thing that made a difference.

everything. Like you would think about what would be in a laundry and there's so many things that are fuel. I've heard

people talk about house fires before, but I think until I experienced it, I didn't really understand what they meant by they just sound so violent. They

sound so aggressive and angry and everything just kept exploding and >> well, it happens so quickly. That's the

problem. It can go from zero to 100.

>> Yeah. I think all of this had would have transpired in about 12 minutes. And a

couple of minutes later, the fire brigade turned up and then the police came. And I think it was one of those

came. And I think it was one of those moments that I was like, "Holy shit."

Like, >> it could have ended very differently.

>> It could have gone so so differently.

And it wasn't until I was looking at a photo of the damage later and, you know, we obviously checked on all of the pets and all of the people and everyone was safe that I realized there was like a

barbecue gas bottle standing right next to where the flames were. And I started going through these scenarios in my head and I was like, "Oh my god, I'd already had so much fire anxiety." Like I don't know why I'm just that type of person

that >> I do too. That is literally my idea of a nightmare. Like I my my biggest fear in

nightmare. Like I my my biggest fear in life is dying in a houseire. It's Yep.

Like I'll lay in bed thinking about tax and house fires. This is like horrifying to me. I have the exact same fear. And I

to me. I have the exact same fear. And I

would never ever leave a dry I would never leave anything other than the fridge on when I go out cuz I just have this weird fear around it.

>> And do you know what it was? I I can remember mine. So when we were in

remember mine. So when we were in primary school, there was a fire safety video that was shown as part of when I had an undercut. It was part of how it was meant to be like to to make you aware of the dangers of a house fire and

like the whole like stop, drop, and roll thing.

>> Laura's like, "My hair is never catching on fire. I'll show I'll shave it off." I

on fire. I'll show I'll shave it off." I

got rid of that hazard. No, we watched this video and I don't know who the [ __ ] approved this video. It was the most harrowing thing I have ever seen and it

was all around house fires. And it

traumatized me as a kid. Like I would get up in the middle of the night and go and check the ovens, check the doors.

Like I used to just be I mean you guys know I've talked about this before. I

had like some OCD tendencies where I would like double check everything. But

a big one has been like the ovens and fires. Like Yeah. and and checking that

fires. Like Yeah. and and checking that the doors are locked but in a way that they could be easily unlocked if I needed to get out. Like it was just a level of insanity that I think is yeah is and I know where it stems from. I

know where it came from.

>> I remember growing up I guess it's not a myth but it used your parents always used to say never leave the house with the dryer on like it was just one of those things that you did and you never knew why. You never understood why was

knew why. You never understood why was it was that's why if it was their dryer that caught on fire and people don't know to change the lint filter in the dryer. You have to change that every

dryer. You have to change that every week guys.

>> Yeah. I'm actually the type of people that my neighbor are. I'm actually quite convinced that she would be doing those types of things. She's very tidy. She's

very like regimented. And she also was like the dryer is quite new. It's less

than 2 years old, you know. And the fire brigade think that it's faulty wiring.

And because we've had so much rain lately in Sydney, that's probably contributed and like, you know, created a bit of an environment where it was possible. I'm just so grateful that we

possible. I'm just so grateful that we were home firstly, like everyone was home. It didn't happen in the middle of

home. It didn't happen in the middle of the night. And I'm so grateful for my

the night. And I'm so grateful for my neighbor who was so brave, jumped over a fence into flames and put this thing out. He had no shoes on. Like he just

out. He had no shoes on. Like he just completely did it off his own back. But

the one thing that and the only reason that I actually wanted to talk about this and it's not to be preachy, it's because it's the lesson that I've learned is that we have now purchased like we've ordered fire extinguishers

because it's just something I'd never you know you always have your smoke alarms and I don't know whether most people have fire extinguishers in their house. I I haven't had one since I was

house. I I haven't had one since I was an adult. I remember we had one as a

an adult. I remember we had one as a kid.

>> I have them in my house that I bought in Queensland.

>> Like I there's one in there, but I don't have one here in my rental in Sydney, which is which is weird.

>> They start pretty cheap. They're like 40 bucks to start with. So, it's not like it's this crazy expense. And I think it's one of those realizations that I'm like, "Oh, you don't need it till you need it, you know, like it's it's so important." And so, yeah, that was just

important." And so, yeah, that was just my crazy Thursday afternoon.

>> That's crazy, Kish. Yeah, you're so lucky. But also, I mean, it's a really

lucky. But also, I mean, it's a really good PSA because it is one of those things that you never think about. It's

almost like like, you know, we all know the necessities of changing batteries and whatnot and fire alarms, but like it's one of those things where you're like, "Oh, I can do that tomorrow or I'll I'll turn it back on, but it's you do not need it until you're in a situation where it's dire."

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> So, this week we came across a reel that got us all thinking. And it's around the expectations that we have for our friends to celebrate important milestones. I mean it's pretty obvious

milestones. I mean it's pretty obvious that we usually celebrate things like weddings and the birth of a child or yeah hens parties. Now the reason why this was quite interesting is because uh

Laney the lawyer who's the Instagram handle that it came from conducted a social experiment where personally she feels as though she doesn't have any of those big milestone moments in her life the ones that society says are important

to celebrate but she wanted her friends to celebrate her. Have a listen to this.

I conducted a social experiment on my friends and they failed miserably. So,

I'm turning 35 and I sent all of my friends an email that said essentially like, "Hey, I'm single. I don't have any prospects. I don't know if I'm ever

prospects. I don't know if I'm ever going to get married. I have, you know, attended everybody's bachelorettes, everybody's weddings, everybody's baby showers. I just would like to do

showers. I just would like to do something to celebrate me because I don't know if I'll get another celebration, right?" So, it went to

celebration, right?" So, it went to about 20 women, 25 and I would say like twothirds or 70% are old friends and

like 30% kind of women that I like was just getting to know. And honestly, I kind of was like testing out like can I make good friends in my 30s that like will want to come to something like this. The response was abysmal. I would

this. The response was abysmal. I would

say the vast majority didn't even bother replying. Like literally no response.

replying. Like literally no response.

Crickets, which was shocking. Shocking,

right? The next group was the married women that have small children that like didn't even pretend to consider it.

Didn't even pretend to contemplate like getting a babysitter or something like that. The ones that are currently

that. The ones that are currently breastfeeding, I understand, but the ones that are not, like, okay, so husband can't watch the kids for a weekend away. Okay. One of them that I

weekend away. Okay. One of them that I will never forget said verbatim, "I cannot wait for your actual bachelorette party. Uh, that's going to be so much

party. Uh, that's going to be so much fun." And I was like,

fun." And I was like, "Oh my god." Okay, so truly all we are celebrated for is finding a man and I will never get to be celebrated for anything else. They don't take any other

anything else. They don't take any other requests for a birthday party seriously.

Yeah. Some of my friends that I traveled like all over the country in the world for didn't even respond and you know the new friends like most didn't respond.

And then I would say about two or three like booked the calendar. We're like

wherever whatever we're doing I'm there no matter what.

Moral of the story, um, we live in a very misogynistic world still and women are continuing this pattern and this legacy of the only thing that matters is

when a woman celebrates ending up with a man. Like, they don't take her wanting

man. Like, they don't take her wanting to celebrate herself at all seriously.

And that was really devastating. Anyway,

that's the state of my friends. And uh

yeah, if you've been wondering why I've been alone a lot the last few months.

Yeah, that one that one hurt. And I've

just kind of like wanted to be alone because I give so much to my relationships and it's just not feeling reciprocated anymore. I guess I better

reciprocated anymore. I guess I better get married if I ever want to be celebrated. Yay. I don't actually think

celebrated. Yay. I don't actually think she conducted a social experiment. I

think she put an invitation out and then she realized off the trap.

>> Yeah, it was a tra off the back of it.

She realized that there might be some broader conversation in it. I do want to read the email that she did send out to her friends in this honey trap. Is that

what it's called when you're in the FBI?

It's a honey trap. Hello, dear friends.

I hope you're all having a wonderful holiday season. As you may know, my 35th

holiday season. As you may know, my 35th birthday is coming up in February on the 15th. And I want to celebrate it big

15th. And I want to celebrate it big time in style with some really cool women around me. And of course, I have chosen the most fitting of locations for this blowout, Miami. So, without further

ado, you are all cordally invited to my 35th birthday blowout bachelorette but manless weekend because I hate the idea that it takes deciding to marry a man to be celebrated. So, here's my [ __ ] you to

be celebrated. So, here's my [ __ ] you to society. It will take place from

society. It will take place from February to February, so it's a whole weekend. I don't want to say the dates

weekend. I don't want to say the dates to sort of set expectations. I do expect this trip will be somewhat bougie. We

will either stay in a hotel and she goes on to say what they'll do on the weekend. But a few key things here. It's

weekend. But a few key things here. It's

a weekend away. So, it's not just a dinner.

>> It's three days.

>> Yeah, it's three days. Like a long weekend. And she has said, "I expect it

weekend. And she has said, "I expect it to be bougie." So, bougie, you can read between the lines. Bougie means money.

It means you're going to be expensive.

She's going to be going all out. She's

made a point of saying that I want this to be a big blowout weekend. I I think two things can be true at the same time.

I The reason why I like this is because I do think it has a point. I absolutely

do think that we prioritize celebrating milestones that society says are important which you know are getting married are having a baby and they're things that as especially as women

choose to be childless by choice are not going to be as relevant to some people right however I do challenge the misogynistic part of this because and I had this conversation with Ness who is

in a lesbian relationship I will celebrate her wedding with the same propensity that I would celebr celebrate a heterosexual relationship. I would

celebrate her having her kids in the same way. I don't think it necessarily

same way. I don't think it necessarily yes, the the majority, if we're going to look at statistics of people in heterosexual relationships, but I do think that now I don't necessarily think

that that's the one and only reason as to why people are celebrating this.

However, should we be celebrating our friends who don't have these big things to look forward to? And if you don't have one of these big things or you don't want one of these big things, as

in like these milestone moments, do you get left behind when it comes to your friends celebrating you? No. The the

problem that I have with this is not the fact that she wants to be celebrated.

It's not that she doesn't have kids and she's not getting married. And I really felt for her for that because I think her feelings are tied to her knowing that maybe her prospects are slim for a wedding. And her words, not mine. She

wedding. And her words, not mine. She

said, "My prospects are slim." The

problem with this is the expectation of what she wants people to celebrate and how she wants them to celebrate. It's

not, hey guys, it's my birthday. Let's

go to a really nice dinner. Let's go to a show. Let's make a day of it. Let's

a show. Let's make a day of it. Let's

whatever. It's let's have three days away, which is obviously expensive.

Let's have a destination birthday.

>> It's a flight. It's a destination. You

are asking people to give up a lot and to spend a lot of money. And the fact of the matter is the reason we choose to spend money and get babysitters and

spend time and energy on things like weddings is because they are oneoff huge moments in somebody's life.

>> Sometimes two, sometimes three.

>> So some people have two weddings.

[ __ ] [ __ ] No, but do you know what I mean? Like there are moments where you're like, "Okay, if I am going to go out and ask a family member to come to my house for 3 days to watch my kids so I can go and celebrate my friend's wedding, that's more of a

reasonable ask of those around you than it is to say, can you come and mind my kids for 3 days so I can go and get pissed in Miami for a friend's 35th birthday." It doesn't land the same. So

birthday." It doesn't land the same. So

I think her expectations are unreasonable when she's saying friends didn't even pretend to get a babysitter.

It's a 3-day weekend. Like that is a really big thing.

>> Yeah. I look, I think the reason why I say two things can be true at the same time is because I do think it's an unreasonable ask to expect that your friends would come and have a destination birthday. But I absolutely

destination birthday. But I absolutely see the merit in unpacking how it must feel if you are the person that is constantly showing up for your friends, for their weddings, for baby showers,

for all of these things, but you either don't have these things in your life because you want them and you don't have them yet, or you don't want them, and therefore you're never going to be celebrated in that way. And we do put a lot of money into hens parties. We do

put a lot of money into weddings. And so

I know it's a weird arbitrary number that she's chosen and she's like, "Well, I'm 35 and so therefore this is the thing we're going to celebrate." But I also understand this feeling of missing out on ever feeling as though you're the

person that gets to be at the center of the celebration, that you're the friend that has something that is worthy of celebrating. Yeah. But I don't think her

celebrating. Yeah. But I don't think her ask I I think it's okay that she asks. I

think it's okay that she wants to do it, but the expectation has to be that more people than not are going to be able to do it. Like, you have to when you're

do it. Like, you have to when you're going in to ask something so big like that. Surely, you need to be self-aware

that. Surely, you need to be self-aware enough to know that it's it's a big ask and a lot of people probably can't front up. The people that couldn't even be

up. The people that couldn't even be [ __ ] to respond. That's just rude.

Like, she has every right to be upset by the people that are like, "I didn't even email back. I didn't even RSVP you

email back. I didn't even RSVP you back." But I reckon the reason why some

back." But I reckon the reason why some people haven't responded is because in their world they're like this is such an audacious crazy ask. This is such an unreasonable ask that it's like it's

uncomfortable or it's like and I'm not saying that it's correct to like not reply. That's crazy that for me it's

reply. That's crazy that for me it's like someone saying hey I want to go to the moon for my birthday. I'm like

[ __ ] what are you talking about? Like

yeah but you'd still write back and say sorry I can't go to the moon this week.

like you would still you still are it doesn't matter what the ask is you still RS are SVP >> it's awful to put people in that position as well and that's what I don't like about it you know coming back to the expectation thing she said between

20 and 25 people like even if you were able to go you had the finances that you were happy to spend on an entire weekend away like there's a good chance you're going with people that you don't know

putting people in the position where they have to say hey I actually don't have that type of money is I actually think it's really rude and I don't think enough people consider this even when

they have things like hens parties now and and destination weddings like putting people in the position where they have to confess to you that they're not in a financial position to be able

to afford that. I actually think it's kind of rude and I think that we could have a lot more compassion around those situations. I feel different for it in

situations. I feel different for it in terms of a wedding but I feel very much in alignment with you when it comes to something like a hens party. The reason

why I feel different about a wedding is because I do think that people are entitled to choose and to have whatever kind of wedding that they want. And if

you're invited, you are entitled to choose to not go. Like that is an absolute very open invitation. And that

exchange comes without expectation. Do

you know what I mean? Like if I want to get married in Greece and be on like some super yacht, like I would be there.

Do you know?

>> Yes, I will come. No, but like I understand that there will be a huge portion of my friends that cannot make it to that wedding and I've chosen that anyway. Do you know what I mean? Like I

anyway. Do you know what I mean? Like I

wouldn't hold it against someone who couldn't come.

>> Do you know what I think the big difference is?

>> I also couldn't come cuz I have three kids and can't afford international flights.

>> Do you know what I think the big difference is? The wedding, you choose

difference is? The wedding, you choose what you want for your wedding, but you pay for those things. When it's a weekend away like this, or when it's a hens party, those costs are split between the people who are going. So the

people who are like, I want to have a week in Singapore for my hens. It's

like, holy [ __ ] we're all going to be fronting the cost for that >> and we're probably going to be paying for the bride as well.

>> But but that's what I mean by the expectation is you can ask what you want, but you can't expect them to go.

You just have to have realistic expectations. I don't want this to come

expectations. I don't want this to come across the wrong way, but I'm reading between the lines on maybe who this person is, but she said, you know, it was audacious and abhorrent. One friend

even said to me, quote, "I'm sure you're going to have a beautiful bachelorette when the time comes, and I can't wait for that moment." And the way that she said that was like, "That was the worst thing her friend could have said to her." But I think if we zoomed out and

her." But I think if we zoomed out and saw more context, I imagine it was probably a really nice message. It was

probably like, "I can't make this one.

Sorry." But like, when the time comes, it's going to be epic. And maybe maybe that didn't land for her because she's thinking, "Well, what if I never get married?" But I don't think there was

married?" But I don't think there was any ill intent in the kind of a response from a friend saying, "I will celebrate." Because what she's saying

celebrate." Because what she's saying is, "I will celebrate you when it's the bachelorette. Unfortunately, I can't do

bachelorette. Unfortunately, I can't do it at this time."

>> Yeah. And I relate to this girl. Like, I

have been to so many of these events. At

this point, I don't have any intentions of getting married. So, I don't think I will have those types of celebrations.

But >> And you have no money left now.

>> And I've spent all of my savings on everybody else's. No, I don't feel like

everybody else's. No, I don't feel like that though. Like I don't feel angry or

that though. Like I don't feel angry or bitter towards my friends for celebrating those things and I kind of feel sad for her in the sense that I can tell that she feels really quite bitter about the fact that she's had to do all of that.

>> I'd also love another wedding. You if we can convince you to have a wedding for it.

>> No, I mean I want to go to another one.

>> The last thing I want to add to this is like I dislike the narrative that everything comes back to misogyny. I do

think that the reason why people celebrate marriage isn't because it's between a man and a woman. The reason

why people celebrate marriage is because you're entering into a completely different phase of your life. It is a very set transition. The reason why people celebrate having a child or having a baby shower is because of this.

Once again, it's this huge transition that happens. You're entering into a

that happens. You're entering into a different phase of what your life will be like. There's before children,

be like. There's before children, there's after children. Whereas when you hit a birthday is something that every single person has. And yes, it's a transition, but every single person who's alive is going to hit that transition. every single person every

transition. every single person every year has a birthday to celebrate. So if

every single one was treated with that level of magnitude, you'd be celebrating every single p person's birthday and having weekends away all over the place.

So I guess that that's why some of these things feel more rare and it's because they are more rare. They happen less frequently.

>> The only thing that I disagree about that is that I don't think she's making out because it's just because she hasn't found found a man. I think the misogyny comes into place with the systems of which we celebrate traditional milestones.

>> Agree. You know, I don't necessarily think it's because she's in she's heterosexual. I think it's more about

heterosexual. I think it's more about the fact that we have only celebrated these things that are quite traditional in terms of like partnering up, adding a human being to the world. You know,

those types of things are by nature slightly misogynistic.

But I wonder whether she, you know, she's a lawyer according to her account, Laney the lawyer. I kind of wonder whether if she was to have a career milestone like say that she became a

partner of her firm or something like that whether people would have responded differently. I do wonder if it's just

differently. I do wonder if it's just the birthday thing like you said everybody has one and everyone's is going to come around. I don't know if someone said to me hey I've become a partner in the firm and I want to have a 3-day bender in Miami. I'd be like are

you paying for it?

>> Did you get a pay rise with that?

>> Congrats. Are you paying for that?

There's a new show on Disney that everyone is talking about. And I say everyone, everyone I know is talking about it. All the group chats are

about it. All the group chats are talking about it. So, it's all I'm seeing on social media. Kesha's, you're

up to date watching it, Kish. You're

five episodes in. I'm three episodes in.

I'm one I've just got one cab off the rank. Well, it's a drama series about

rank. Well, it's a drama series about John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn bet

John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn bet Kennedy. It is an FX produced Ryan

Kennedy. It is an FX produced Ryan Murphy show, but we here in Australia watch it on Disney for anybody that wants to watch it. It's called Love Story, John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn

bet. Now, this has broken absolute

bet. Now, this has broken absolute records for FX. 25 million hours in the first five episodes have been watched, which is the same as 1.5 billion

minutes. And I say this because it is

minutes. And I say this because it is important. It is important to show the

important. It is important to show the reach that this show has had. But it

raises a really interesting question about a show being based on a true story, which this is. You need to ask yourself how much creative freedom writers should have when they are

depicting somebody that is very real and very much still alive. This is because one of the lead characters, well, she's not a lead I guess, but she is a very prevalent part of John F. Kennedy's

story, her name is Daryl Hannah, and she was a very famous actress. So, I grew up with her being one of my mom's favorite actresses. She was in Kill Bill. If you

actresses. She was in Kill Bill. If you

guys don't know her, you'll probably know her face when you look her up.

>> Oh, absolutely. Even I don't know who anyone is and I know who she is.

>> Yeah, Daryl Hannah. I just feel like I don't know if you knew Aisha a little bit younger than us, but she was really big when we were growing up.

>> I think the biggest thing that I remember her from was Kill Bill. Like

that was kind of the millennial or like younger millennial I am era. But Daryl

Hannah was actually in a relationship with JFK Jr. for about five or six years. And reports say that it was quite

years. And reports say that it was quite on and off and it was a very famous relationship.

>> Yes. And the thing that is quite almost ironic about this is that she has never spoken about the relationship publicly.

Yet in the show, in Love Story, the character that is Daryl Hannah, and that is her name in the show. It's not like they've tried to kind of give her a different persona.

>> She is shown to be really insufferable.

She's shown to be emotionally unstable.

She's very self-obsessed. There are a couple of scenes where she's really clout chasy, like she's apparently leaking things to the press. There are

even scenes where she is really inappropriate at Jackie O's wake. There

is another scene where he gets home from this really big day at work and she has quite a few people in his apartment that she's living in with him.

>> So having like a huge house party telling him >> a party. They're all doing lines of cocaine off of this silver tray that he states is a family heirloom. Like she's

just shown to be really really disrespectful. And from what we know of

disrespectful. And from what we know of her now, she is a woman who has become an environmental activist. And like I mean a full-on activist. She's been

arrested multiple times for her protesting. She was involved in the

protesting. She was involved in the takedown of Harvey Weinstein with the MeToo movement. She seems like the type

MeToo movement. She seems like the type of person that is very inongruent with the character that is shown on our screens.

>> Well, look, I mean, it's interesting because the reason we're talking about this is not so much for the show itself, even though that has received so much attention. It's because of the New York

attention. It's because of the New York Times article that Daryl Hannah has penned herself. Now, this was published

penned herself. Now, this was published on Friday, and what she wrote was an acknowledgment that she has been grossly misrepresented in this quote unquote true story. And this is what she had to

true story. And this is what she had to say. I have long believed that engaging

say. I have long believed that engaging with distortion often amplifies it. But

a recent tragedy exploiting television series about John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn bet features a character using my name and presents her as me. The

choice to portray her as irritating, self-absorbed, whiny, and inappropriate was no accident. She continues on to say that it is not even a remotely accurate representation of my life, my conduct,

or my relationship with John. I have

never used cocaine in my life or hosted a cocaine-fueled party. I have never pressured anyone into marriage. I have

never desecrated any family heirloom or intruded upon anyone's private memorial.

I have never planted any story into the press. I never compared Jacquine

press. I never compared Jacquine Onasses's death to a dog's. It's

appalling to me that I even have to defend myself against a television show.

These are not creative embellishments of personality. They are assertions about a

personality. They are assertions about a conduct and they are false. She also

speaks about how it's so deeply entrenched in misogyny. This idea that she's been created to be almost like a villain character in this show because there needed to be someone to play that

part. But it really does question and

part. But it really does question and bring into I guess you know this um debate around where does the moral standing apply when something is

marketed as a true story when someone's able to garner the capital the marketing capital that comes with saying this is a true story however some people and some events in this are completely fictitious

and we've made them up as a by line I guess like on one thing you get people's investment their emotional investment by knowing that this is based on a true story, but then the people that you are

fabricating or that you are embellishing are the emotional collateral in the storytelling. The problem is is that

storytelling. The problem is is that Daryl Hannah is real. She has a career.

She has a reputation that is being decimated by a TV show that people now have a perception of who they think she is. Yeah. And it's interesting because

is. Yeah. And it's interesting because she does go on to say why she thinks Ryan Murphy has decided to make her this way. And when I say this way, if you do

way. And when I say this way, if you do not know who Daryl Hannah is, you finish watching it and you don't like her.

She's not a likable character. So, if

you don't know anything about who she is, who she was, what she's done, what she does now, you just don't like her.

You're like, you're annoying and you're vapid and you're horrible to this family and that's why you didn't end up with him. So, she goes on to say,

him. So, she goes on to say, "Storytelling requires tension. It often

requires an obstacle, but a real living person is not a narrative device." She's

suggesting that the tearing down of one woman to uplift another is textbook misogyny. And she thinks the only reason

misogyny. And she thinks the only reason she was portrayed to be like that is because us as an audience is not emotionally intelligent enough to be able to watch a show like this and be so

involved in rooting for one love story unless we absolutely detest the other person. What you just said then Brit

person. What you just said then Brit though around that you get a feeling for why you dislike someone, right? It's the

same thing that happens within the press. We see it all the time play out.

press. We see it all the time play out.

You read an article that's something that's you know it's devaluing it. It

presents a woman in a certain way. And

I'm talking about celebrities in general. And often we walk away from

general. And often we walk away from female celebrities going like, I just don't like her, but I don't know why.

>> Megan Markle is a prime example.

>> Yeah. Like, I don't like her, but I don't know why. And like, you might not have one thing to pin it on. The problem

with this is like most people who are watching this are walking away from a show and they've probably heard of Daryl Hannah or they've seen a photo of her or when they see the picture of her online, they're like, "Oh my god, I know that actress." And now they're instantly

actress." And now they're instantly rewriting history with this new version of a dramatized series. And it made me think of Baby Reindeer. Even though this is a lesser version or a lesser

comparison, it's the series that was written by a man named Gad around his experience with a woman named quote unquote Martha who stalked him over the space of four years. Now, this was uh

advertised as a true story. And Martha,

the the real Martha who came out, she threatened >> the real stalker, >> the real stalker who came out threatened to sue Netflix for the embellishments.

And and what Gad ended up saying is like yes some things were embellished some things were not true but the emotional feeling is a true story and that in itself is questionable. I think the reason why we had more leeway for that

is because yes she was a convicted stalker so she kind of loses credibility whereas Daryl Hannah is someone who has an immense amount of credibility. So I

think that the fall from grace there's so much more that she can suffer in this. Yeah. What people aren't realizing

this. Yeah. What people aren't realizing is Daryl has come out and said that she's receiving hate messages and not just one or two because people are believing this fictionalized version of

her is actually real. No one is watching a show like this or very few people are going to watch a show like this and then walk away and say, "I'm going to go do my due diligence and see if the portrayal of all of these characters are

real." No one's doing that. So the

real." No one's doing that. So the

impression is, and this goes back to at the start when I dropped those numbers about 1.5 billion viewing minutes, so many people are consuming this and walking away thinking somebody is

horrid. Now, this woman is still alive.

horrid. Now, this woman is still alive.

She still has things that will affect her work, affect who's going to hire her. She's a she does public speaking

her. She's a she does public speaking and advocacy, and there are so many things that can be tainted by this kind of a brush, >> mud sticks. And once something is out, it is very hard to change somebody's

opinion of something, especially something like this that is, and they're not saying it's a true story. They're

saying it is based on true events and based on a true story. So you, it's up to you as the viewer to decide which parts you think are true and which parts have just been dramatized for your entertainment.

>> I was about to say, and this feels like a very terrible choice of words considering who we're talking about, that it's a complete character assassination. Like

assassination. Like >> I Yeah, I mean, I was like, "Oh, that feels a bit tacky." I thought you going to say it's like watching a plane crash.

>> Well, oh dear.

>> No, I thought I wasn't being funny. I

thought that's what you're going to say.

>> Um, at the start of each episode, it does come up with this story is inspired by actual events. Certain depictions of people and events have been dramatized or fictionalized for storytelling purposes. And I have made absolutely no

purposes. And I have made absolutely no secret of the fact that I am very critical about Ryan Murphy. He is the one who did Monsters. He did the Jeffrey Dharma series. I find that his ability

Dharma series. I find that his ability to take people's biggest tragedy and like horrific things that happen in their life and make them into drama

entertainment has felt really really irky and murky to me for years and years. And that's when we're talking

years. And that's when we're talking about things that involve like murder.

This to me didn't feel as harsh. And I

think that's why I was okay watching it cuz I was like it's a love story. You

know that and and this is a nice story.

It obviously ends in tragedy, but it was an accident. It wasn't a deliberate

an accident. It wasn't a deliberate violent tragedy. And yet, we're still

violent tragedy. And yet, we're still having this exact same conversation about the fact that he involves very real people. I remember when you and I

real people. I remember when you and I spoke about monsters last year, Brit, and we spoke about the fact that the men who had murdered their parents had come out and said, Yeah. Even though the show actually showed them in a really good

light, they still came out and said >> there were really massive inaccuracies.

there was a bit of a brotherly incest love story that involved the two brothers and they were like none of that was true. You know, I don't know why he

was true. You know, I don't know why he felt the need to dramatize that angle.

I'm not surprised by the fact that Daryl Hannah has come out, called out Ryan Murphy and said, why did you feel the need to make me this character? Like, as

an audience, are we not at a point where we can see a woman who is amazing, who is an actress, who is empowered, and all of these positive things and still recognize that she wasn't the right

person for John F. Kennedy Jr. and that Caroline bet was, you know, are we not at a point that's a little bit more nuanced than that? Do we have to pin them against each other where one is the hero and one is the villain?

>> I think we do. I think we love a protagonist in a story, you know, we love like we love a push and pull in a story. It's like it's the jeopardy. It's

story. It's like it's the jeopardy. It's

what's going to happen. I mean, without it, it just follows like a really lovely love story that ends in a tragedy.

Whereas, at least with her character having this push and pull throughout the whole thing, that makes it episodic. It

gives every episode something to lean back into. It fleshes out the story

back into. It fleshes out the story line. And that's the problem. I think

line. And that's the problem. I think

the issue for me is when and and I know we are the issue like we love true story. We love [ __ ] true story

story. We love [ __ ] true story documentaries. We love true story

documentaries. We love true story dramatizations.

But it's this genre of true story dramatization that's borrowing the credibility and the legitimacy of journalism without having to do any of the due diligence is where the the real

moral gray area is. And then when you couple it with the fact that we've explored a lot of the the stories where people are all deceased and there's no one who can really complain about it and now we're looking at stories that are

happening so close to history where people are still alive and are directly affected about it. Like there has to be some [ __ ] rules in place. You can't

just decimate someone's life or someone's reputation and then say, "Oh, but we said that things were embellished. I know I made you be a

embellished. I know I made you be a beard of a c, but that's okay. Like,

come on. It's just don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. Imagine

if one day you flicked on Netflix. I

mean, my life's not that interesting, but you saw like yourself being portrayed in a story as being a horrible person. It would just unravel you. It

person. It would just unravel you. It

did make me think I read a quote by one of her best friends. So, Rosanna

Arquette is another actress and they've been friends for a really long time. So,

she has also come out in Daryl's defense. She said a bunch of stuff, but

defense. She said a bunch of stuff, but I just want to read this one line. Her

love with John F. Kennedy Jr. was real and some of the happiest times John F.

Kennedy Jr. had. Just ask his family.

But no one did. Well, it's funny that you say that because Carolyn Kennedy, and it can get a bit confusing because there's two Carolyn. So, Carolyn Kennedy is the sister of Johnf Kennedy Jr., her

son. So, John F. Kennedy Jr.'s nephew,

son. So, John F. Kennedy Jr.'s nephew, his name is Jack, and he was recently in an interview with CBS Sunday Morning, and this is only a couple of days ago, where he called out the show. He said

that they were producing fiction with a capital F. He said, "If you want to know

capital F. He said, "If you want to know someone who's never met anyone in my family, knows nothing about us, talk to Ryan Murphy. The guy knows nothing about

Ryan Murphy. The guy knows nothing about what he's talking about, and he's making a ton of money on a grotesque display of someone else's life." Ryan Murphy actually said on a podcast, "I thought

it was an odd choice to be mad about your relative that you don't really remember."

remember." >> What a ridiculous response. What a

ridiculous response when he's the one creating content about someone who he doesn't know. You know what I mean?

doesn't know. You know what I mean?

>> It's got no connection to them. The

thing is, this is where my issue with this whole thing lies.

Just because you know a tiny part of a true story, like you know that someone died in a plane crash and you know the wife's sister died, like just because you know that part of the story that was written in the news, doesn't mean you

know the story of the human who is behind that story, which makes it deeply not a true story. It just means that it's got similarities to the ending and you've named the characters the same thing. I do not think it should be legal

thing. I do not think it should be legal to be able to make true or based on a true story or use that type of terminology if everything leading up to

the last episode or the last thing is not true or has been hugely dramatized for the purpose of making you know of making profit. At the end of the day,

making profit. At the end of the day, these are people's real lives. These are

people who have identities who should have some ownership over their own personal identity. That's been taken

personal identity. That's been taken away from them as is their reputation.

And now the entire true history is being rewritten by a [ __ ] dramatized Siri.

It's crazy that there aren't rules in place for this. It is really hard. Let

me talk you through what's going through my brain right now. It's hard because whilst on one hand I agree almost everything that's produced has been

inspired by something, right? Inspired

by a person, inspired by a moment, inspired by a life event. And it's going to always be impossible to make it 100% accurate. impossible because you are

accurate. impossible because you are never going to be able to know and see and speak to every single person and every single detail and everything word that comes out of their mouth like is this something that you would have said

it's it's not possible right and we're never going to stop having inspired buys and I even say this because I'm just thinking now the TV show that I wrote and created and I'm trying to produce at

the moment is inspired by my life right I have taken events from myself but when I think about all the scenes and stuff that are in that none of them happened.

None of them are real, but they they could have happened to somebody that I know or an event that >> you name people in that the names of your ex-boyfriends or the names of people who are affected. Are we in it?

>> No. But this is where the issue is. It's

because Daryl Hannah's character specifically, it's not based on her and her name's Lucy. It's Daryl Hannah and she's still living and it has a direct reflection on her reputation. So that

for me is where the issues lie. Are we

ever going to stop doing inspired by and based on movies and TV series? No, we're

never ever going to do it. But you there does need to be some kind of speaking to the people involved at least getting their opinion. It doesn't mean they have

their opinion. It doesn't mean they have to okay it because they're never going to bring that in. But I do think the lowest form of respect someone like Ryan Murphy could have done is at least consult the people that were the main

characters of his inspired by story.

>> Totally. The thing is is if you haven't even consulted the people who have any reference to the person, you haven't it's not a true story. It's not based on anything from truth. That's the problem.

And so like I don't think that those credentials apply. I guess why I think

credentials apply. I guess why I think it's so different to what you've just described, Brit, is because like yes, of course you're going to make you're going to make content based on inspiration that you've taken from the life that

you've lived, but this is not taking inspiration from the life that you lived or anyone that's even close to you. This

is just taking a historical moment and names that people are deeply interested in, a tragedy that people are extraordinarily fascinated in and creating a fictional story based around that and calling it truth. That's the

problem. And then there is someone who is still alive who is able to have a voice write an article in the New York Times and say this is [ __ ] and that's what's happened.

>> Almost be forced to write an article because how else can she defend herself >> because she's inherently quiet and never ever gives volume or noise to this sort of stuff. And I'm such a hypocrite

of stuff. And I'm such a hypocrite because I think this show is fantastic and I'm going to continue watching it. I

hate myself for enjoying it so much, but I think it's good that we have these conversations calling out the inaccuracies because otherwise, how else are people's actual stories going to get out there?

>> The problem is though, you put your money where your mouth is, right?

Because by watching it, you just fuel the next one to be created. All right,

suck and sweet, guys. What is your suck of the week? I genuinely do not have a suck this week. I have had a really good week. I've got my glasses on so that my

week. I've got my glasses on so that my and the smartest I've ever been.

Everybody, >> my glasses are keeping my migraines at bay because I have been bad. But I've

actually just had a really beautiful week. My sweet of the week is I just

week. My sweet of the week is I just touched on it, but um the TV show that I God, guys, if you have been a long-term listener, you'll know this has been

years in the making. I wrote and developed a TV show many years ago.

>> Brit and Mitch piloted it like years ago. This is how long it's been in the

ago. This is how long it's been in the process for.

>> I wrote Mitch in as like a main character. And it's it's a people

character. And it's it's a people probably don't know, but a show and a movie can take years to get off the ground. And that's not that's not to get

ground. And that's not that's not to get off the ground, that's to be seen or someone to even like look sideways at you.

>> But the last couple of weeks to months, it's really steamrolled and a production company has picked it up and we've just had a writer come on board this week and in one hour I have a production meeting

with LA. Now, this does not mean that

with LA. Now, this does not mean that it's going anywhere. It is. There are so many stages to getting something produced, honestly, but it's as close to the sun as we've gotten so far. So,

>> so exciting.

>> So excited.

>> I know. So, it's just like it's happening. It still needs basically

happening. It still needs basically we're almost at the point where like we need the okay from a streamer to say they'll take it and then it can go forward. So, we we've done all the steps

forward. So, we we've done all the steps that we could possibly >> All I can say is I feel really sorry for all your ex-boyfriends cuz they're going to be [ __ ] in this one when it comes to their >> not based on true story inspiration or no. No. So, that that's cool. Well, so

no. No. So, that that's cool. Well, so

we've just got meetings about that and I don't know by the time it gets picked off picked up I'm not going to want to do it anymore and I'll be too old to play the character I wrote.

>> That's the problem.

>> So I just get all the sevens for them.

>> But that's my that's my sweet of the week. So

week. So >> well I'm in 2030 maybe you'll say something.

>> You'll be doing like you'll be doing the menopausal version of it though.

>> Dating your 50s.

>> I'll say she's no longer 25. She's

actually 50.

>> Well look. Okay. My suck for the week is we It's kind of like coupled into a sweet but it is a suck. We have been really busy with work in the last little bit. And I had a day yesterday where we

bit. And I had a day yesterday where we had a big filming day for after the dinner party. And don't get me wrong,

dinner party. And don't get me wrong, the show's amazing. We're having a great time. And I am loving that I've been

time. And I am loving that I've been able to juggle work and also having a baby. But yesterday was a day that I

baby. But yesterday was a day that I felt immensely guilty as a mom. And it

was because I left work before Poppy had woken up. And by the time I got home

woken up. And by the time I got home from work, she had been put to bed. So,

I literally did not see my children yesterday in a workday, which >> it's not like she wasn't cared for guys.

She was a cared for. She's fine. But it

just there's something really I guess it was there was something really sobering about that day. And I and I hated it.

Like, you know, as much as I feel like I'm picking work goals. It isn't a sacrifice that I want to make and it wasn't something that I felt good about, you know, getting home. I just wanted to wake her up just to cuddle her. I mean,

something that stands out in that is the fact that she obviously slept in, which is great.

if she was still asleep when you left.

I'm like, that's great.

>> She did. Um, but yeah, I literally just didn't see her yesterday and then I had the cutest moment. So, this is kind of my sweet, which sounds so silly, but like I was feeling really sad about that. And usually like Poppy once she's

that. And usually like Poppy once she's asleep until she doesn't she's dead asleep until about 2:00 a.m. And that's

when like the party time happens and she wakes up six times between 2:00 a.m. and

6:00. But usually I wake her up at 11:00, I do a dream feed. Anyway, I came in at 11:00 to give her a dream feed and she was like doing a little little rustling. Usually, she just drinks her

rustling. Usually, she just drinks her bottle completely asleep and might like look at me once or twice, but she's pretty much asleep. So, she was doing that and I gave her a bottle and then she opened her eyes a little bit just to kind of like spot what was going on. And

then she saw it was me and SHE WAS LIKE, "HAHA." AND she was so happy. Like, it

"HAHA." AND she was so happy. Like, it

was the cutest moment. Never ever ever in the night has she woken up like that level of just [ __ ] stoked. And so

yeah, it was really it was really sweet and sweet and also annoying because then she was wide awake and just wanted to put >> you're like oh I didn't miss you that much.

>> But yeah I it's the juggle like the juggle of trying to do as much as what we're doing and doing that with three kids and you know sometimes I feel like I'm absolutely killing it and other

times I have deep debilitating mom guilt and that was my feeling yesterday.

>> You did just leave yesterday. You picked

up your bag and left. You left your laptop, all your jewelry. I had to go and collect everything for >> I ran out of there because we ran so late with recording. We weren't supposed to finish as late as we did. And I

literally just like ran off the couch, ran, got my bag, and ran out the door.

>> I was like, I'll hand deliver your laptop to your house. Don't worry,

Laura.

>> And then I left my laptop on the table.

I left all my jewelry. Like just left everything. So I was like, I [ __ ]

everything. So I was like, I [ __ ] need to get home. And I was trying to get home before she was put to bed, but I didn't make it. So I felt very sad.

Anyway, that's my suck and my sweet roll into one. Anyway, guys, that is it from

into one. Anyway, guys, that is it from us. Um, if you have any questions for

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