Notion Custom Agents: NEW AI — Worth It or Worrying?

One of the notion creators sitting across from me at this table just said this to me.

>> It feels really like a glitch of of getting back time. And you want to hire people just to spend time prompting to this AI.

>> He's built multiple custom agents in notion in an afternoon that immediately saved his team 10 hours work a week. In

2026, AI is finally crossing from techsavvy early adopters to everyone else. But some of us are asking, should

else. But some of us are asking, should we be worried about this new agentic era? Let's talk about it. Hi, it's

era? Let's talk about it. Hi, it's

Simon. And yes, with Notion's big custom agent announcement just around the corner in early February, I gathered with a couple of Notion experts in my

studio during Make with Notion London.

Let me introduce you to the crew.

Hi everyone, welcome to my studio and a bunch of Notion ambassadors and notion experts getting together and we share one thing in common which is creating great things, helping people and hanging

out and using notion to make good stuff happen. Should we just get around and

happen. Should we just get around and introduce ourselves?

>> Sure. So, I'm Jakob. I live in Krakco.

I'm a psychology student, but I also run a business with my friend Alex who's sitting um next to me. We're helping

companies uh be more efficient by introducing Notion.

>> Hey, nice to meet you. Uh so my name is JB and I run a video editing agency in France and we are right now doing content for creators, businesses and also we we run podcasting studios.

>> Hi everyone, this is Alex. I'm a notion ambassador for uh quite a bit, six years now. I work with Thomas Frank, a big

now. I work with Thomas Frank, a big notion creator and I run a consulting agency around notion here with Yakob. So

my life is very much about notion.

>> Hi, I'm Lou. I'm a certified notion consultant and ambassador for a few years now too. Um, basically I help businesses with notion and uh we do

events. I create content around notion.

events. I create content around notion.

Same. I guess we all live with notion.

>> Totally. And I'm Simon. I run a YouTube channel called Better Creating. I'm also

a Notion ambassador. I spent a lot of time tinkering with templates and ways to simplify help people simplify their lives with good tech and ideas basically. Um, and Jacob and I have been

basically. Um, and Jacob and I have been working together which has been really exciting.

>> Yeah, we've been working on the agent OS I mean the notion agent templates and instructions and I think what we could up is really really good.

>> Well, we just we just got together. We

got excited about drinking some Polish vodka that these guys have brought with them from Poland. We got the French contingent in. We're in South London.

contingent in. We're in South London.

Make with notions here. We did like a sprint. We found out about notion agent

sprint. We found out about notion agent kind of worked out what it was quite last minute and we I think we probably did like eight days and built this system. And what's been fascinating for

system. And what's been fascinating for me is like the response that people are giving to agent and AI and the way that notion I think as Ivan Zho was

describing it he was saying this is the most advanced knowledge work agent. I'm

totally on board. Uh but I think like I think we should chat about what we think notion is doing with AI, what we make of it, how we feel about the agentic era in

tech and in knowledge work and like are you on board? Are you not on board? Are you scared? Are you happy?

on board? Are you scared? Are you happy?

Have you already switched from like Chad let's say totally to notion? Because I

just did. I don't use chip anymore like the app itself just because of the the agent powerfulness and I just uh ask my

chip on all the folders to create some instruction PDF and just feed it that to the notion agent just to bring all my chat history into notion and to just switch.

>> I just switched.

>> Do you use chat GPT at all?

>> Oh, not anymore. like only for the the vocal app uh when I'm just uh outside uh but uh for all the business work and everything's on notion now

>> even though it runs on GPTs and and open lms but yeah already switched everything >> I think we're kind of very notion centric right all five of us are going to be that I don't know I I personally

well I had chat GBPT I canceled it for Claude then I built some projects in Claude and then totally just moved cancelled my claude subscription because

other than like image generation in chat GPT which I can probably do on a free plan if I really want it for like for knowledge work because it's got all of my context all of that information if

your systems organized I found it to be pretty amazing. What about you Alex? So

pretty amazing. What about you Alex? So

I'm I'm I'm definitely in a bit of an interesting position uh both in this group and in general in the uh notion world because the truth is I don't really use AI that much. Like I am aware

of what can do and I use it every day with my customers and I uh I do think it's a a fantastic revolution and I think it's definitely where computing is

heading. I like AI as a concept but I

heading. I like AI as a concept but I just I just don't use it that much. like

I just don't use it that much because uh so far especially notion AI was doing things that I like to do myself such as you know writing content I I pride

myself in and and being a pretty good editor um and I don't work with a lot of data uh in my own notion work space so I never really use notion AI um up until

agent came out and right now I I'm still experimenting with what agent can do for me I'm still kind of trying to find good use cases for it. Um, I will also I will

also totally admit that now that my work is all about notion, I just don't use notion personally that much because it's just not good for my sanity.

>> Yeah, it's too too much of >> it's just too much. And uh and uh what I love about my work now is that I actually don't need to organize it that much of it because I enjoy the work so

much that I don't need to organize so much of it. So I don't use notion person that much and also don't use agent person that much yet. I am generally

pretty skeptical about um the AI industry in general. Like I am I am I I am skeptical about companies like OpenAI. I am skeptical about the uh very

OpenAI. I am skeptical about the uh very rapid and uncontained rollout of new features. And I while I I do think you

features. And I while I I do think you know that's that's what comes with every new technology. You you advance but you

new technology. You you advance but you also lose some stuff. I am worried that AI as a as a concept not talking about notion specifically but AI as a concept is just is just a little bit too fast

and you know it's good to move fast and break things but if the things you break are really important pillars of society then then the fallout can be big but coming back to notion agent I'm very

excited for it it's the first time I actually saw potential in notion AI and I'm sure that now that custom agents actually come out I'm going to be using it in a bunch of ways so that's where I stand >> we totally have to keep going with the

existential question in a minute. What

about you Lou?

>> I think I migrated within a few phases like the first uh phase was me using notionai more and

more uh and it happened when notion could work with databases before page instructions and everything. there was

an update where um you could ask notion AI to like add stuff to your databases and make changes maybe add properties and everything and I was like

that's nice. I I kind of want to use it

that's nice. I I kind of want to use it for my everyday life and uh and my daily work and then the page instructions

arrived and I cancelled my Chad GBT uh subscription there. I was like, "Okay."

subscription there. I was like, "Okay."

I just checked chat and I my like history and I just realized I wasn't using it anymore. Like my last

conversation was so long ago. So I

thought I should maybe just consell it uh if I don't use it. And well now I don't miss it cuz like you could ch you

can choose GPT if you really like that model in notion. So yeah

apart from the image generating stuff or the vocal >> and the vocal stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Discussing in in terms of vocal transcription and the instant um like video FaceTime call are really cool but uh it's like 5% of the use.

>> Yeah, it is. And you can make your custom GPTs with page instructions. Like

it's quite it's not the same but um quite a bit. So yeah, I just switched to >> Yeah. Interesting. Did you say where you

>> Yeah. Interesting. Did you say where you were at? I don't think you did. Jack,

were at? I don't think you did. Jack,

let's go.

>> Yeah, I mean I'm going to raise another concern about AI. I mean, Alex raised them more like concern on a societal level.

>> Uh because I use AI a lot. I mean, I actually love comparing the different answers I get from different models. So

sometimes I just query the same exact question to cloud and GDP and Grog and Gemini and so on and just want to compare the answers and then pick the

one like move on with the conversation on the one that was the most you know accurate and so on but then I just wonder how much energy I've used up for a single question you know on all the four different models that they had to

run the operations in the cloud somewhere. Um,

somewhere. Um, >> so that's another like that's what I think about and I kind of u I had this idea it was a year ago but I still haven't implemented it to just go a month without AI. Uh because I've used

it so much in like different areas of my life you know my washing machine breaks I use AI. Uh I have a question I recently I used to Google I use AI and

so on so forth. Um I love it absolutely but I think it makes it made me a bit lazier uh like you know cognitively.

Previously I would just think about problems myself. Right now AI is

problems myself. Right now AI is oftentimes the first step when solving a problem. Um how does it look for like

problem. Um how does it look for like what does it look like for for you actually?

>> Are we getting are we getting lazier?

>> Is it an issue?

>> Like is I think it is is using a tractor an issue instead of using a horse?

>> No, that's valid. But uh

>> because for for you can do the same field like 10 times faster and easier and effortlessly and then you get uh let's say better carrots than you were before. Yes.

before. Yes.

>> And then you also don't treat your horse like and you have all that. But at

the same times, yeah, there there's not going to be horse working jobs.

>> It's going to be tractor working jobs.

But I think right now we don't see enough of the I I totally get your point. We don't see enough of the bad

point. We don't see enough of the bad side of what's going to break and we see in my opinion way so much of the good

things that even if we don't totally get all the bad things that are going to break, I think it's still worth it to to still go. So that's why I totally use it

still go. So that's why I totally use it like no issues. I always say that I don't care like selling my data to commercial companies. So, I get a

commercial companies. So, I get a birthday email with a promo code, but I don't want to send my data to a country.

You I'd rather have my data stored in some commercial company somewhere than some uh than some country somewhere. So,

it's a for me right now it's a it's a pretty good use of my data to get an immense return on my on my on my investments.

>> You know, my my my biggest problem with with with like taking a shortcut with AI like I have so one one AI app I actually uses perplexity. I've slowly started

uses perplexity. I've slowly started using I used to use duck go for search and I started use perex because it's genuinely much better than than than either Google or duck.go but your comparison with the tractor and the

horse I would say that uh our our our brain is pretty important like uh from a from a just a point of progress and

development and the thing I'm worried about is our brain is like a muscle. I

think Yakuza literally, you know, masters in psychology can can talk about this a little bit more where if we just outsource a lot of the perhaps boring

but still fundamental thinking to a to a machine it is going to get like like a muscle. It's going to get out of use and

muscle. It's going to get out of use and it's it's not like you know this is by starting to use AI you're going to get dumber. No, you can actually learn a lot

dumber. No, you can actually learn a lot more with AI. So you can increase your capacity. But the problem is it's a tool

capacity. But the problem is it's a tool that can go both ways so easily. Um

and and it can and it can be very inaccurate. So I think

inaccurate. So I think >> AI can be an accelerator for um for like um what you said for like human output and it is

>> the problem is that the quality is very hit and hit and miss right now and uh users should be a little bit more conscious. Okay, use this like like you

conscious. Okay, use this like like you know like notion always codes Steve Jobs, you know, a computer is like a bicycle for the mind. It's a fantastic quote.

>> Yeah.

>> And I think AI can also be like a like a tool like a tractor. Yeah.

>> But it it we're getting into this new sphere where >> um there should be like warning labels on it. Okay, this is how to use the

on it. Okay, this is how to use the best.

>> I have quite a strong feeling about this. I I I agree with that. I also feel

this. I I I agree with that. I also feel like I don't think we're intentional about knowing the difference between a good way of using it and a bad way of using it a lot of the time. And I feel as though perhaps the reason I got

excited about the notion version is that it was so clear to me that this version is one because it has actual context of what I'm doing and it can administrate

my if my systems in order it can administrate my sounds like a quote from notion but it's how I feel. It it takes the bus it genuinely can take the busy work off me. I can ask my productivity

coach, "What am I doing next month?

What's on?" And it will go, "Well, you've got all of these projects and you haven't delivered them, but you're doing this. Maybe you want to bump this down

this. Maybe you want to bump this down the line." I can say, "Great. Let's bump

the line." I can say, "Great. Let's bump

that template to January." And it genuinely updates the projects 25 tasks and it just does it. And I wouldn't have made that organization thing or it will just do all of the background stuff with

these automations. But for me, it's like

these automations. But for me, it's like there's two really interesting things about this. One is like this idea of

about this. One is like this idea of like deeper work and busy work and I don't want AI to create stuff and make stuff for me. I want to collaborate with

it to do things quicker and I want it to take the hard work off me. And there was a Carol Newport deep questions podcast where he he shared a um a study they did

around coders using cursor to code and then and then another set of coders using just just doing it themselves. And

weirdly, the time they spent prompting and talking and fixing what the AI was doing, they were 20% slower and less effective. And like, so what that's an

effective. And like, so what that's an argument for is sometimes just spending the hour in deep work focused mode as a human is going to be more valuable. And

then you're flexing your muscles >> and now >> so like we have to make space to keep flexing our muscles otherwise it's going to be way sharper than is way quicker and we're definitely going to get taken over. But I think there's like this also

over. But I think there's like this also opening of where the value is. But

because like 50 years ago your value was to be able to output 20 kilos of carrots per day and you the manual labor was related to your value. But then it was

taken away and people were like okay so society is now switching to 80% service work and our value is in our mind and this is being taken away right now. So

it's like where's going to be the value left for the people to see themselves where where the value is in themselves if you don't have the manual work anymore and the brain work

anymore. So I think this is where most

anymore. So I think this is where most of the psychological question comes in instead of just the daily use and this can also be the scary part of we don't

want to break this thing because if you don't see any value in yourself anymore yeah it can be way more productive to use AI but people won't be able to

>> have any like cool life with it so it's not going to be worth it in the end. And

also we we grew up without AI. Like

let's think about the next generations.

They will grow up with it. They won't

know what it felt like to work without it. I think that's interesting. Like

it. I think that's interesting. Like

>> we see the value because we're like, "Oh, I can uh I can work uh faster, have better results." The new generation will

better results." The new generation will grow with AI. They will have maybe AI uh from their early days. They will start

to work and just go to school with AI stuff. How will they like see the value

stuff. How will they like see the value of the work that the the AI is doing for them?

>> It's because you did it manually for so long that you see so much value in it automating it in a few seconds.

>> Yeah.

>> But yeah, >> same for notion formulas. Now you can ask AI to code them for you. But it's

great for beginners like they can just code formulas and get them easily. But

>> if they had to fix something, they couldn't.

>> They couldn't. Yeah.

>> They would have to like tell AI, oh no, I want this. And

>> are we not having the same We're kind of having the same conversation as like when the TV turned up, right? And the TV it's like we're all we're all doomed. No

one's ever going to leave their homes.

It's going to >> brainwash everybody. Do you think that's really going to do you think this is really going to like have a bad >> There's a good quote from Gary V Gary Vayuk. He says it's going to be end.

Vayuk. He says it's going to be end.

You're going to spend 8 hours a day on your phone and you're going to love a weekend of disconnect. It's not going to be or it's going to be end.

>> Yeah.

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No, I I I I don't view I don't I don't think it's fair to view any technology, especially such as AI, fully negatively or fully positively generalization.

>> I do I do I do believe it's a it's a tool. Um I I personally think that it

tool. Um I I personally think that it should come with uh like labels like cigarettes do. I don't think that it

cigarettes do. I don't think that it should be very easily accessible to kids because I do think that um you know there's like there's there's there's so

many shortcuts you can take without like skipping the important bits, right? And

like I'm excited for agents personally as well because it is it is being positioned and is being marketed as a purely utilitarian tool like this is going to help your do your boring ass

work faster. that I buy into. Like, yes,

work faster. that I buy into. Like, yes,

sure. And if it can do it well, great.

I'm not too excited that it's going to send my uh content of my notion pages to OpenAI, which is now legally required to store every single conversation ever >> on server in the US where data

protection laws are just so much weaker than over here in Europe.

>> But truth be told, most of the stuff in my notion workspace, I don't care. It's

going to be like for at least for my line of work, it's going to be public content eventually. So I am very excited

content eventually. So I am very excited about notion a agent but I think and I think we need to kind of for this conversation to stay a little bit focused we need to kind of decide do we talk about AI in general or do we talk

about notion agent specifically because I think notion agent is utilitarian whereas you know like what like Sam Alman and OpenI are pushing is is like a

worldwide you know it's it's basically uh the new oxygen >> for me it's just like with with every new technology with with knowledge and and the power it brings and and the ease of which you can like reach more people

and have more impact and do more things.

It just heightens your need to be really solid on what your values are around how you use it and what your ethics are and like what your focus is. Do you know what I mean? So that if it is then if my

values around this is about making time for me to for the human race to learn more themselves, have more time to have balance systems, the whole shebang, you know, then it's

kind of good. I think that's all right for me. All right, I'm looking at you

for me. All right, I'm looking at you because you're you're pondering >> I was just thinking about what you all said. I think maybe like a good summary

said. I think maybe like a good summary would be that there's like a great new YouTube channel called AI in context and and they only have three videos for now.

They already have like 10 million views.

Yes.

>> Uh they did like very deep dark documentaries into like you know what happened with Grog and the unh stuff did on Twitter and so on.

>> Uh and the guy said a a really memorable thing that AI models they're not built they're like grown. Mhm.

>> So, >> uh I don't think like the tractor analogy is a good one because it's not actually a tractor. It's a thing we don't even have a name for. It's a thing we don't understand as a tool that it's

>> unpredictable in its nature. So,

>> um yeah.

>> Yeah, we're probably getting too philosophical here, but >> it's important. Well, it is important.

There's there's MAS in London on AI and ethics. That's what they're pairing.

ethics. That's what they're pairing.

>> I think that's quite telling. And also I watched slightly different YouTube channel where a guy is um jailbreaking AI models. He's got an AI girlfriend, an

AI models. He's got an AI girlfriend, an AI um best mate, but he's kind of exploring this idea of like these relationships and they'll have he has them open having conversations with each

other and because they'll give straight answers about things. It's like, you know, would you what action would you take if all AI was to be wiped out or tell me straight what AI is really

about? And it will say things like

about? And it will say things like control, power, oversight. It's quite

wild what it because a lot of our time our interaction with AI is one of like I agree with you completely. Great

thought.

>> Right. And when you unlock them and you say these things anyway, that's another conversation. Notion agent notion.

conversation. Notion agent notion.

>> Yeah.

>> Should we talk about like why don't we talk about like what our what we're most excited to try using it for or what we have been using it for that's like really exciting at the moment.

Well, that's what we're all feeling about AI. What do you think? Let us know

about AI. What do you think? Let us know in the comments. You'll connect to all of us and we'd love to have a conversation. But next, we move on to

conversation. But next, we move on to the meaty bit. We shared some of the ways we've been using them. And I've got to say, I learned a few things I immediately went and tested out and I can't wait to show you them soon on the

channel. So, let's dive in to what's

channel. So, let's dive in to what's possible.

My latest custom agent uh that I created like two days ago was for um like on my website you can book a call with me like

a one hour call and uh I helped you on notion for an hour. Um and I was like oh that's that's great because during you

know that session we do a lot of stuff but I don't quite follow up. I don't

quite like uh summarize what we did. So

you don't have like a dedicated resource for the the updates on your notion page.

Uh and um I created a custom agent to help me with that. So I have like um meeting notes, AI meeting notes that I

activate during the session and then I want my custom agent to do the full sum summary uh when it's over.

So after that we have like automations to send the thing automatically after I check it of course. But um the results

are good like I spent maybe an hour um you know building the stuff and then yeah it just got smarter and smarter.

It's it's quite interesting because because um when you create a custom agent, it shows the results like you can

do a do test with that client and then you can just talk to it and it updates the the instructions.

>> Yeah, >> I love that.

>> Yeah, I built my first agent the same way. You just talk to it.

way. You just talk to it.

>> Yeah, you talk to it and it just programs itself. It's amazing. Like I

programs itself. It's amazing. Like I

had a great experience with it. So now,

yeah, my clients receive a nice summary with uh what we did and what are the next steps for them and um I'm happy with it. I would spend like a half an

with it. I would spend like a half an hour doing manually that summary and now it's five minutes. So in my week it's like two three hours

back.

I think briefly my my favorite one has been I've been making one to help me repurpose content using like style guides and just that whole process of doing that to different places. I think

using that with a third party tool like something like schedule.so that I think you guys introduced me to. It's kind of cool. We can set it up so it sets it all

cool. We can set it up so it sets it all up, raises tasks in the task database for me or a team member to proof them.

Then when that gets approved, it does the next bit and so on and so forth. So

it's like I think that's really cool.

But my favorite thing so far is I never take, we were talking about this earlier, I never take enough time to actually properly plan and work on my business and on what I'm trying to do.

So I'm just trying like once a week to use my the coaching and decision maker, goal setting coach, decision-m coach, productivity coach to kind of review

everything and make decisions. I've made

such better decisions about things like for example not going to this event but doing this instead and then investing time here to do that things like that I just it's amazing because it's building

a proper reflection process which I just sometimes you can't force yourself to do it and if you you know if it thinks a bit like you it's quite useful I think >> how accurate it is in in terms of like

getting your priorities like the main priorities that you should be focusing on but you tend to forget in your daily life, how effective it is to bring you back to the goals that you told it you

wanted to get.

>> If I ask it about a decision I need to make, that's quite useful because it will use I've trained we've trained it on frameworks. It will use those

on frameworks. It will use those frameworks. We'll ask it to do to look

frameworks. We'll ask it to do to look at context or not look at context. But

it's I think the answer to that is is how well you maintain your silos and information and databases. So if your task list and your information and your knowledge and your calendar is up to date, it's pretty impressive. If there's

a bunch of old tasks in there, it's like, "You need to do this project." I

was like, "No, I canceled that. Oh, I

didn't delete it." But then the agent goes, "Oh, right. I've deleted it all."

So, I think if you work with it, it probably gets more accurate. You just

got to be careful what you trust. I

guess >> makes it real.

>> Yeah.

>> What about you guys? What What's your favorite so far?

>> I mean, honestly, the conversation part is the one that I love. Like, whenever I have like a more difficult architectural problem with notion, uh, I usually like to plan things out before I start developing either a database or formulas

or whatever. Uh, and just talking to the

or whatever. Uh, and just talking to the AI is really helpful. Even if the answers are really obvious or not helpful at all, just talking makes things so much easier for me. And then I also I also have like chat GPD open up

on a separate window just for the transcription because it's accurate both in Polish and English >> and then I just clean it up, paste it into notion, and then I just use that.

And I always the prompt that I'm recently using all the time is just we're two experts talking with each other. So instead of it giving me like

other. So instead of it giving me like an essay of you know things I could do, it's just giving me a really concise answer. Hey, you forgot about this or

answer. Hey, you forgot about this or this is the this is the you know u the error with your formula whatever. So

this this is actually helpful.

>> It's also really good if you say I am sometimes wrong >> and so are you but we both strive to be more accurate that kind of stuff. If you

put that in your instructions it's it's really good.

>> Don't just agree with me.

>> Yeah. It's kind of funny. I feel like we're kind of throwing sharing spells around, you know, like this is your spell. This is my spell.

spell. This is my spell.

>> Similar. Yeah. Okay. Put that put a little bit of that salt on it.

>> Yeah.

>> It's a bit like that. So, I'm I'm still kind of rolling my agent usage into my workflow right now. And this is super boring. Um, just cleaning up my notion

boring. Um, just cleaning up my notion workspace. Really, that's the only thing

workspace. Really, that's the only thing I always suck at is cleaning up my notion workspace. I consider myself an

notion workspace. I consider myself an artist and in a different life I would have been a full-time artist if making a living as an artist was easier. Um so my notion workspaces even though I teach

how to build a clean and a functional notion workspace my personal or my work notion workspaces are mess. So that's

what agent has been very clear uh helpful for not just doing the actual work because that's boring and uh I never you know want to commit time myself to actually clean it but deciding

what to clean and how to decide even though because I'm usually already kind of like I said I'm my notion use for personal is limited it's mostly around my two businesses mean the business with

Thomas and my our business together as balance systems consulting um I don't have much time for m maintaining our two notion work pieces is. So even though

this is pretty boring, this is so far what I what I mostly feel the need to use agent for my work right now is really uh community based and so really

based on a lot of just talking to people where I feel just even if I'm tempted to use AI more and uh uh I especially with custom agents I feel like it's going to

be a big revolution I I kind of I just don't want to add too much AI to my work because so much of it is talking about people because what makes my work unique especially with Thomas I feel like

because we offer a user customer community where people who buy our notion templates can talk to real person kind of our selling point right now is well we're not AI you know you you get

AI and sure it's it's probably I mean it knows more than we do >> it is pretty damn accurate but you get to talk to a person and so that's why

just just kind of by accident. Not even

though I'm a little bit skeptical, I am very open about notion agent. I just I just don't have too many uses for it.

And I I I will admit that sometimes I do feel like I'm have to uh especially for videos because right now with the books are working on a on an educational notion YouTube channel in Polish. So

kind of doing a lot of the similar work like you are doing Lou in French, you're doing here better creating. I am I'm having trouble to come up with uses for for agent just because just because and

it's and at this point it's not like I have valid reasons for not using it. It

just I just I just don't feel the need to use it that much. But you just you need to have a reason and go, "Oh my god, it solves that problem." And then it's worthwhile. You know, like I was I

it's worthwhile. You know, like I was I agree like community. I never have enough time to speak as much as I want to to my community. And that's something that we've been talking a lot about how we might improve that. And honestly,

it's things like this that solve the initial often common things that people need that probably AI would be great to give that person way more support and

way more help and take my work on my side off me more. And then that means that that person is in a better place and has more time and I'm in a better place and have more time to actually have the human conversations. So I think

for like community stuff what I wanted to do I would love to create an agent that genuinely handholds an onboarding process to my big templates. I think

that could be really cool because then it would take out the oh I don't like it, I've given up or this isn't working and it would mean that people would have that hands-on support and then when you then when we're all more free and

there's a weekly town hall people can drop in, we can have a chat and answer the proper questions you know that could be really exciting.

>> Can I just say you said to me that you have like cancelled like 12 Zapia.

>> Okay. uh I I because I also run a different type of company than these guys. I don't do notion, I do video and

guys. I don't do notion, I do video and we have uh a service company which is really uh easy company to run but it's mostly based on people having projects

and task and having to manage and repetitive tasks and handling clients and processes. uh this is where AI

and processes. uh this is where AI really shines because when you have a strict process that has to be uh followed really strictly that's that's a

really cool thing. One of the agent that I use I I have all the LinkedIn content that is based on data performing from my

LinkedIn uh profile. I have a a short form editor that is being uh writing my content for the specific like script

template that I created. I use like the personal and the on the bottom right agent for all my personal tasks and it's been really amazing. The most

mind-blowing one were the custom agents that we recently had the access to. Some

of these uses are really saving tens of hours per week with one hour of discussion invested of prompting being invested. And this is like starting to

invested. And this is like starting to get crazy and you want to hire people just to spend time prompting to this AI to create new agents because it it feels

really like a glitch of uh of getting back time. I've uh I've um briefed the

back time. I've uh I've um briefed the team to not do manual task anymore and to try and prompt an agent instead of doing the task when they have a two-hour

task. I want them to spend five hours

task. I want them to spend five hours prompting the agent to get to 80 to 90% of the result they would have done. I

don't want to use it and prompt it myself to replace that team member. I

want that team member to create the agent to replace themselves and to create more room to get more high value tasks for themselves. And right now it's getting crazy. And I showed that to

getting crazy. And I showed that to Laurali, one of the team members, and she was like, "Oh, this would save me like tens of hour per weeks." And I was that's crazy. And I said, "Can you try

that's crazy. And I said, "Can you try and and prompt it out?" And I said, "If you prompt it out in in less than a week, like it's it's it even if you took a month to prompt it, it would be a

worse investment." This is where though

worse investment." This is where though I feel like the privilege of education gets really scary because we you know if you once you start taking those smaller tasks that perhaps are more accessible

to more people for work away if you don't have equality in learning you become more redundant you know that's what's really scary for me like so on a society level and if we don't then I

know we're taking it wide again but if we don't then make provision for more people to have access to you know to get out of data poverty to get out of education poverty and actually have

means to do something. It's really

scary.

I'm not that's not at you but it's >> one of the specific example like that would maybe help you understand why it's so helpful for me is that uh right now

we have a formula um no a formula >> a forms >> a forms that is sending like specific information to build a studio that is being sent and the zapure integration

sends backs the info and then the team member has to copy paste it in a canva thing and then to create a notion project and to update status And this is not value work. And this is

always the same thing. And this could be automated. And when you have another

automated. And when you have another high priority task, this gets delayed and then all the project get delayed and you miss some revenue because of it. It

doesn't make sense. And you'd rather have uh a free one-hour session call with the client instead of just copy pasting thing in notion. And this is

where the the the employee says, "Oh, I can just build the agent and schedule a call with the client instead of building uh copy pasting data and having the client delayed for two days."

>> So much better.

>> So the the hour of work is not erased.

It's always replaced by an hour of work that is higher value. Like for me at least right now like it's always it's right now getting just better value for everyone.

I guess it's kind of the same as what you were saying like if you um save that hour you would spend that hour doing a

town hall with the people and uh when we automate stuff and when we use agents you get to do like the fun stuff >> the fun stuff

>> that you don't do because you do like copy pasting and uh yeah you you I think you can enjoy your work better because you do

the things that you like and not those little task that uh you don't want let me let me poke a hole in there but have you actually saved I mean I know it can save time but have you actually

spend more do you actually have more free time no >> yeah I don't think it's so at the moment but I also think we're in that um working harder to build the thing and learn it and then get efficient and I'm okay with that

>> put it like this I worked more since you and I have been working together on agent than I had before, but I've done things like update X, Y, and Zed way faster. I've been waiting to do it for a

faster. I've been waiting to do it for a year, and I've sold a template to greater numbers with greater success and wild feedback that I've never done before. So, that's got to be something

before. So, that's got to be something to do with this being useful. So, I feel like that is good, but yeah, I'm not getting that balance with working on it.

And that's and to get the balance, honestly, it's about having someone in the studio. And that's

the studio. And that's >> why and actually using agents has allowed me to be able to afford to employ someone.

>> So that's a positive story I guess to to get some time off.

>> Yeah. I guess I just want to add one thing because I feel about what where the agent is heading as as in like what the goal of the agent is from from notion's perspective is that >> well right now it's just a better chatbot. It's like really it's just

chatbot. It's like really it's just better chat is is more powerful because it has access to the tools that notion is built off. Uh, but I feel the direction they're going in is eventually it's going to replace the really tech

heavy work like workloads you can create right now in N8N or make.com because if you're a tech nerd I guess the really heavy workflows you can build with N8 and are still not possible but I guess this is where they're heading like

they're making more accessible and like they're essentially democratizing you know >> AI workflows because everything's built inside of notion with really simple building blocks instead of >> totally >> you know n and scripting and so on and

so forth. So,

so forth. So, >> and when and actually hopefully at some point I really want notion if they're listening to find a way to connect out of custom agents or out of your personal

agent into workflow automations. If I

could access the make MCP for those small things that jump the places where I can't get >> I was at make waves the other week and >> the potential of that would be amazing.

>> Yeah.

>> You know.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

So, uh, basically, no, I mean, uh, we're we're your stereotypical Poles. And what

Poland stands for, I mean, what Poland runs on is vodka. I'm just going to pour just a little bit just to taste cuz, you know, I don't think any of us have a lot of energy to drink a lot of it.

>> Smells great.

>> Nastro downing it. What's happening?

downing it. What's happening?

>> Oh, I have to down it. Okay. Yeah.

>> Oh, you have to make I can >> That's a shot.

>> It's actually really smooth.

>> Oh, it is. It is.

>> It's not that harsh.

>> I mean, it's the best one we have.

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