Palantir Technologies | Q3 2025 Earnings Webcast
By Palantir
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Record-Breaking Q3 Performance**: Palantir achieved a monumental third quarter, exceeding expectations with 63% year-over-year revenue growth and an 18% sequential increase. The company's Rule of 40 score soared to an unprecedented 114, marking a significant improvement. [03:24], [03:46] - **U.S. Commercial Business Surges**: The U.S. commercial sector was a major growth driver, with revenue increasing 121% year-over-year and 29% sequentially. This surge is attributed to high demand for AIP and customers scaling its adoption across operations. [03:58], [04:39] - **AIP: The Only Platform for Transformational Impact**: Palantir asserts that AIP is the sole platform delivering transformational impact in the enterprise AI market and is the only one with a plan for compounding enterprise AI leverage, not just model maker leverage. [04:51] - **Highest TCV Quarter Ever**: The company closed its highest Total Contract Value (TCV) quarter ever, securing $2.8 billion in deals. This includes a significant number of large deals, with 53 deals worth $10 million or more. [05:30] - **AI as a C-Suite Imperative**: AI adoption is now a strategic imperative at the C-suite level, with executive leadership recognizing enterprise-wide AI adoption as the key differentiator between AI leaders and laggards. This is driving company-wide transformations. [06:49] - **AI FDE Accelerates Development**: Palantir's AI FDE (Foundry Development Environment) is enabling rapid development and productivity. At one customer, two human FDEs used AI FDEs to migrate a data warehouse in five days, a task that would typically take two years. [10:01], [10:23]
Topics Covered
- C-suite leaders drive enterprise AI transformation, not just use cases.
- Ontology: The key to real enterprise AI at scale.
- Palantir delivers "best results any software company has ever delivered."
- Our value-aligned model drives growth by making clients more money.
- AI empowers American workers, driving re-industrialization and prosperity.
Full Transcript
Good afternoon. I'm Anasara from Palantir's finance team, and I'd like to welcome you to
our third quarter 2025 earnings call. We'll be discussing the results announced in our press
release issued after the market closed and posted on our Investor Relations website. During the
call, we will make statements regarding our business that may be considered forward -looking within
applicable securities laws, including statements regarding our fourth quarter and fiscal 2025 results, management's
expectations for our future financial and operational performance, and other statements regarding our plans, prospects,
and expectations. These statements are not promises or guarantees and are subject to risks and
uncertainties, which could cause them to differ materially from actual results. Information concerning those risks
is available in our earnings press release distributed after the market closed today and in
our SEC filings. We undertake no obligation to update forward -looking statements except as required
by law. Further, during the course of today's call, we will refer to certain adjusted
financial measures. These non -GAAP financial measures should be considered in addition to, not as
a substitute for or in isolation from, GAAP measures. Additional information about these non -GAAP
measures, including reconciliation of non -GAAP to comparable GAAP measures, is included in our press
release and investor presentation provided today. Our press release, investor presentation, and other earnings materials
are available on our Investor Relations website at investors .palantir .com. Over the course of
the call, we will refer to various growth rates when discussing our business. These rates
reflect year -over -year comparisons unless otherwise stated. Joining me on today's call are Alex
Karp, Chief Executive Officer, Shams Sankar, Chief Technology Officer, Dave Glazer, Chief Financial
Officer, and Ryan Taylor, Chief Revenue Officer and Chief Legal Officer. I'll now turn it
over to Ryan to start the call. We had a monumental third quarter, shattering
expectations yet again. Our overall revenue grew 63 % year -over -year
and 18 % sequentially. We outperformed across the board, driven by strong execution
in the U .S., which accounted for three -fourths of our business in Q3, growing
77 % year -over -year and 20 % sequentially. Our Rule of 40 score
soared to an unprecedented 114, up 46 points year -over -year and a full 20
points since last quarter alone, reinforcing our position as the defining enterprise software company
of our generation. Our U .S. commercial business grew an incredible 121 % year -over
-year and 29 % sequentially, driven both by insatiable demand and the quantified exceptionalism
compelling customers to scale AIP across their operations. Organizations are
embracing an undeniable truth. growing 77 % year -over -year and 20 % sequentially.
Our Rule of 40 score soared to an unprecedented 114, up 46 points year -over
-year and a full 20 points since last quarter alone, reinforcing our position as the
defining enterprise software company of our generation. Our U .S. commercial business grew an incredible
121 % year -over -year and 29 % sequentially, driven both by insatiable demand
and the quantified exceptionalism compelling customers to scale AIP across their operations.
Organizations are embracing an undeniable truth. Real enterprise AI at scale
requires Palantir. We're seeing that AIP, again and again, is the only platform
delivering transformational impact in this market. And critically, AIP is the
only AI platform that has an actual plan for compounding your enterprise's AI leverage,
not just the model maker's leverage over you. Sharing this leverage with our customers is
our highest priority. Our whole company is singularly focused around value creation for our customers,
and I'm proud to share with you all the fruits of our labor. We closed
our highest TCV quarter ever at $2 .8 billion. Underlying this
performance, we closed a staggering 204 deals worth $1 million or more, of which
91 deals were worth $5 million or more, and 53 deals were worth $10 million
or more. In our U .S. commercial business, which now accounts for 34 % of
our overall revenue, we closed $1 .3 billion in TCV, a milestone achievement for the
fastest -growing area of our business, with a more than 6x year -over -year growth
rate on a dollar -weighted duration basis. The trajectory is clear. Customers are
converting to larger enterprise agreements in short timeframes, reflecting both the expanding scope of their
AI ambitions and the immediate impact our software delivers. A leading medical
device manufacturer signed a multi -year expansion just five months after their initial contract, increasing
ACV more than eightfold. Two weeks into their initial contract, the conversation
evolved from a single -use case to pursuing the opportunity of becoming an AI -first
enterprise. Their CEO approached me to embrace a shared vision for an enterprise -wide
AIP deployment to transform their entire organization. This transformation reflects a
broader pattern we're seeing across our customer base. AI is a strategic imperative owned at
the C -suite level, with executive leadership recognizing that enterprise -wide AI adoption is the
defining factor separating the AI haves and the AI have -nots. We're seeing C -suite
-driven AI transformations across our customers. At a leading insurance company, the CEO has
taken personal ownership of their AI transformation, meeting with our team regularly to orchestrate a
company -wide transformation around AIP, reimagining every function, from underwriting to claims
processing, leading to a significant expansion of our work together. Our partnership with
TWG Global, named Vergence .ai, continues to gain momentum. As
TWG's Thomas Toll noted, quote, what was once a competitive advantage is now
a competitive necessity. Companies that fail to incorporate AI into their core operations will
be outpaced by those that do. These examples underscore what we are seeing.
We are the only platform bringing true transformational impact to the enterprise AI
market. Turning to our U .S. government business, revenue grew 52 % year -over -year
and 14 % sequentially as we continue to deliver mission -critical capabilities.
We remain deeply committed to our founding mission of supporting the U .S. government, honored
by the privilege of equipping our nation with transformative software that actually works. We
remain focused on delivering the most advanced defense capabilities in the world to the U
.S. government and internationally to our allied partners around the world. The momentum
we're carrying into Q4 is extraordinary. As we look towards the end of the year,
our mission is clear. Deliver the production capabilities that turn AI from promise into
performance for the enterprises defining the future of their industries through AIP's compounding
AI leverage. I'll now turn it over to Sham. Thanks, Ryan.
20 years of grinding has built a unique moat and a growing lead. Our products
were built... focused on delivering the most advanced defense capabilities in the world to the
U .S. government and internationally to our allied partners around the world. The momentum
we're carrying into Q4 is extraordinary. As we look towards the end of the year,
our mission is clear. Deliver the production capabilities that turn AI from promise into
performance for the enterprises defining the future of their industries through AIP's compounding
AI leverage. I'll now turn it over to Sham. Thanks, Ryan.
20 years of grinding has built a unique moat and a growing lead. Our products
were built for this moment, and the numbers continue to show it. Realizing value from
AI in the enterprise requires the elegant integration of LLMs, workflow, and software.
And this is only possible with ontology. Our foundational investments in ontology
and infrastructure have positioned us to uniquely deliver on AI demand now and in the
world ahead. The most significant product developments are the accelerating progress in our
AI applications inside of AIP. AI FDE, our AIP native
development agent that understands how to connect to data sources, how to integrate and transform
data, how to create ontologies and functions and build applications. It's unleashing incredible speed and
productivity for our FDEs and customer developers alike. At one customer, two
human FDEs spawned an army of AI FDEs to migrate a customer off their legacy
data warehouse in five days, something that would have taken an army of SIs up
to two years. This is not a prototype. This is production. Across our customers, the
results are shocking. AI HiveMind is a new AIP capability that orchestrates a swarm
of dynamically generated agents to tackle hard problem solving, idea generation refinement, and
executable proposal generation that is integrated with ontology and therefore aware of the context of
your enterprise. AI HiveMind was originally developed to solve extremely complex problems in the classified
space, but it's already been used to help our commercial customers identify bottlenecks to their
supply chain, proactively developing possible solutions, and then leveraging AI FD to code that
up into an actual solution. In the government space, AI HiveMind is able to take
its proposals and generate intricate mission plans right in Gaia and Maverick. Our focus with
AIP continues to be enterprise autonomy, our normative view of where the value is for
AI in the enterprise. HiveMind now lets the AI develop novel solutions to emergent
challenges and to identify hidden opportunities. And the rest of AIP enables you to turn
those ideas into an implemented reality. Closed -loop evolution of the business
with AI possible because of AIP and ontology. We continue to make
investments that allow enterprises to extend AIP to the far edge. ontology is a new
lightweight implementation of ontology that runs on mobile devices and enables customers to build mobile
applications or embedded software for hardware, things like drones and robots, and is fully integrated
with your enterprise's AIP instance. Turning to field -facing updates, the U .S. Army
issued an official public memo directing all Army organizations to consolidate and centralize on Vantage,
the Army data platform built on Foundry and AIP. The Army views this not merely
as a technical decision, but a cultural decision, enabling the data -driven decision -making that
continues to make our Army the most lethal in the world. This directive will enable
the Army to rapidly sunset legacy systems and enable more investment in the Army's future
force, concept, and systems. Warp Speed and the American Tech Fellowship are early investments
to support manufacturing and re -industrialization in America are bearing fruit. While Warp Speed launched
by helping new defense entrants meet their surging production goals, it's now being rapidly adopted
across the traditional defense industrial base and the maritime industrial base. The second cohort of
the American Tech Fellowship will be wrapping up in the next few weeks. We started
the American Tech Fellowship because we noticed that many of our best builders were frontline
workers. They don't come from conventional consulting backgrounds. They don't have formal computer science backgrounds.
To highlight a few of these folks, Mason, a Louisiana -based civil engineer, is building
AI applications for more accurate estimates for heavy construction projects, something that is only going
to grow with our re -industrialization. Michael, who works for a potato farm in North
Dakota, is streamlining its operations. And Cody from Georgia, who is a utilities expert, is
building in Foundry to deliver safe, reliable energy across the South. These Americans... American Tech
Fellowship will be wrapping up in the next few weeks. We started the American Tech
Fellowship because we noticed that many of our best builders were frontline workers. They don't
come from conventional consulting backgrounds. They don't have formal computer science backgrounds. To highlight a
few of these folks, Mason, a Louisiana -based civil engineer, is building AI applications for
more accurate estimates for heavy construction projects, something that is only going to grow with
our re -industrialization. Michael, who works for a potato farm in North Dakota, is streamlining
its operations. And Cody from Georgia, who is a utilities expert, is building in Foundry
to deliver safe, reliable energy across the South. These Americans are the true face of
innovation, underscoring that it will be the American worker with AI that drives re -industrialization
and American prosperity. Our customers have taken notice and asked us to create American Tech
Fellowship programs for their employees, specifically to include Lear, who highlighted their fellowship in their
recent earnings call. With that, I'll turn it over to Dave to take us through
the numbers. Thanks, Sean. We had an outstanding third quarter, achieving a rule of 40
score of 114, our highest ever, by 20 points. We also generated our highest ever
reported revenue growth rate of 63 % year -over -year, exceeding the high end of
our prior guidance by 1 ,300 basis points and representing a 3 ,300 basis point
increase compared to the growth rate in Q3 of last year. On the back of
this extraordinary strength, we are guiding to revenue of 1 .329 billion in the fourth
quarter, representing 13 % growth quarter -over -quarter, our highest ever sequential revenue growth
guide, and 61 % growth year -over -year. We're also raising our full year 2025
revenue guidance midpoint to 4 .398 billion, representing a 53 %
year -over -year growth rate, an 8 point or 252 million increase over our full
year 2025 revenue guidance last quarter. In addition, we're raising our full year U .S.
commercial revenue guidance to an excess of 1 .433 billion, representing a growth rate of
at least 104 % year -over -year, a 19 point increase over the guidance we
gave just last quarter. Accelerating demand for AIP continues to drive the outperformance in our
U .S. business overall, which grew 77 % year -over -year and 20 % sequentially
in the third quarter. Our U .S. commercial business grew 121 % year -over -year
and 29 % sequentially, and our U .S. government business grew 52 % year -over
-year and 14 % sequentially. We delivered these exceptional top -line results while also achieving
our highest ever reported adjusted operating margin of 51%, exceeding the high end of our
prior guidance by 500 basis points and highlighting the unit economics of our business at
scale. Our revenue and profitability drove a 20 -point sequential increase to our Rule of
40 score from 94 in the second quarter to 114 in the third quarter. On
a trailing 12 -month basis, we generated $2 billion in adjusted free cash flow for
the first time in the company's history. Turning to our global top -line results, third
quarter revenue grew 63 % year -over -year and 18 % sequentially to $1
.181 billion. Third quarter U .S. revenue grew 77 % year -over -year and 20
% sequentially to $883 million. Excluding the impact of revenue from strategic commercial
contracts, third quarter revenue grew 65 % year -over -year and 18 % sequentially, and
third quarter U .S. revenue grew 78 % year -over -year and 20 % sequentially.
We closed our highest -ever quarter of TCV bookings at $2 .8 billion, up
151 % year -over -year. This eclipses our prior highest quarter of TCV
bookings just last quarter by nearly half a billion dollars. Customer count grew 45 %
year -over -year and 7 % sequentially to 911 customers. Revenue from our largest
customers continues to expand. Third quarter trailing 12 -month revenue from our top 20 customers
increased 38 % year -over -year to $83 million per customer. Now moving to our
commercial segment. Third quarter commercial revenue grew 73 % year -over -year and 22 %
sequentially to $548 million. This is the fourth consecutive quarter that revenue from our
commercial business has been larger than our U .S. government business. Excluding the impact from
strategic commercial contracts, third quarter commercial revenue grew 77 % year -over -year and 22
% sequentially. We closed $1 .4 billion in commercial TCV bookings, representing
132 % growth year -over -year and 32 % sequentially. AIP
continues to drive existing customers. customer. Now moving to our commercial segment. Third quarter
commercial revenue grew 73 % year over year and 22 % sequentially to $548 million.
This is the fourth consecutive quarter that revenue from our commercial business has been larger
than our U .S. government business. Excluding the impact from strategic commercial contracts, third quarter
commercial revenue grew 77 % year over year and 22 % sequentially. We closed $1
.4 billion in commercial TCV bookings, representing 132 % growth year over year
and 32 % sequentially. AIP continues to drive existing customer expansions
and new customer conversions in the U .S. Third quarter U .S. commercial revenue grew
121 % year over year and 29 % sequentially to $397 million.
Excluding revenue from strategic commercial contracts, third quarter U .S. commercial revenue grew 126 %
year over year and 29 % sequentially. In the third quarter, we closed $1 .3
billion of U .S. commercial TCV bookings, representing growth of 342 % year over
year and surpassing the billion -dollar mark for the first time. Over the past 12
months, we closed $3 .8 billion of U .S. commercial TCV bookings, a 217 %
increase from the prior 12 months, highlighting the demand for AI production use cases. Total
remaining deal value in our U .S. commercial business grew 199 % year over year
and 30 % sequentially. Our U .S. commercial customer count grew to 530 customers,
reflecting growth of 65 % year over year and 9 % sequentially. Third quarter international
commercial revenue grew 10 % year over year and 5 % sequentially to $152 million.
For international commercial business, we continue to capitalize on targeted growth opportunities in Asia, the
Middle East, and beyond, but remain focused on accelerating the growth in our U .S.
business. Revenue from strategic commercial contracts was $2 .9 million for the quarter.
We anticipate fourth quarter 2025 revenue from these contracts to be between $2 to $4
million compared to $9 .6 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. We anticipate 2025
revenue from these contracts to be less than half of 1 % of full -year
revenue. Shifting to our government segment. Third quarter government revenue grew 55 % year over
year and 14 % sequentially to $633 million. Third quarter U .S. government revenue
grew 52 % year over year and 14 % sequentially to $486 million. This growth
was driven by continued execution in existing programs and new awards, reflecting the growing demand
for AI in our government software offerings. Third quarter international government revenue grew 66 %
year over year and 16 % sequentially to $147 million, bolstered primarily by our continued
work in the U .K. As previously mentioned, we closed our highest ever quarter of
TCV bookings at $2 .8 billion, up 151 % year over year. Net dollar retention
was 134%, an increase of 600 basis points from last quarter. The increase was driven
both by expansions at existing customers and new customers acquired in Q3 of last year,
as we see the effect of the AI revolution. As net dollar retention does not
include revenue from new customers that were acquired in the past 12 months, it does
not yet fully capture the acceleration and velocity in our U .S. business over the
past year. We ended the third quarter with $8 .6 billion in total remaining deal
value, an increase of 91 % year over year and 21 % sequentially, and $2
.6 billion in remaining performance obligations, an increase of 66 % year over year and
8 % sequentially. As a reminder, RPO is primarily comprised of our commercial business,
as it does not take into account contracts with an initial term of less than
12 months and contractual obligations that fall beyond termination for convenience clauses, both of which
are common in most of our government business. Turning to margin and expense. Adjusted gross
margin, which excludes stock -based compensation expense, was 84 % for the quarter. Adjusted income
from operations, which excludes stock -based compensation expense and related employer payroll taxes, was
$601 million, representing adjusted operating margin of 51%. Q3 adjusted expense
was $581 million, up 8 % sequentially and 29 % year over year, primarily driven
by our continued investment in AIP and technical hiring. We continue to expect expenses to
increase in the fourth quarter as we remain committed to investing in the product pipeline
and the most elite technical talent, all while delivering on our goals of sustained GAAP
profitability. Third quarter GAAP operating income was $393 million, representing a
33 % margin. Third quarter GAAP net income was $470 million. employer payroll taxes
was $601 million, representing adjusted operating margin of 51%. Q3 adjusted
expense was $581 million, up 8 % sequentially, and 29 % year -over -year,
primarily driven by our continued investment in AIP and technical hiring. We continue to expect
expenses to increase in the fourth quarter as we remain committed to investing in the
product pipeline and the most elite technical talent, all while delivering on our goals of
sustained GAAP profitability. Third quarter GAAP operating income was $393 million,
representing a 33 % margin. Third quarter GAAP net income was $476 million,
representing a 40 % margin. Third quarter stock -based compensation expense was $172 million,
and equity -related employer payroll tax expense was $35 million. Third quarter GAAP earnings
per share was $0 .18. Third quarter adjusted earnings per share was $0 .21.
Additionally, our combined revenue growth and adjusted operating margin accelerated to 114 % in the
third quarter, a 20 -point increase to our Rule of 40 score from the prior
quarter, and our ninth consecutive quarter of an expanding Rule of 40 score. With the
increase in our 2025 revenue and adjusted operating income guidance, we are now guiding to
a Rule of 40 score of 102 % for the full year. Turning to our
cash flow. In the third quarter, we generated $508 million in cash from operations and
$540 million in adjusted free cash flow, representing margins of 43 % and 46 %
respectively. Additionally, we achieved $2 billion in trailing 12 -month adjusted free cash flow for
the first time. Through the end of the third quarter, we repurchased approximately 2 .6
million shares as part of our share repurchase program. As of the end of the
quarter, we have $880 million remaining of the original authorization. We ended the quarter with
$6 .4 billion in cash, cash equivalents, and short -term U .S. Treasury securities. Now
turning to our outlook. For Q4 2025, we expect revenue of between $1
.327 and $1 .331 billion, and adjusted income from operations
of between $695 and $699 million. For a full year 2025,
we are raising our revenue guidance to between $4 .396 and $4
.400 billion. We are raising our U .S. commercial revenue guidance to an excess of
$1 .433 billion, representing a growth rate of at least 104%. We are
raising our adjusted income from operations guidance to between $2 .151 and $2
.155 billion. We are raising our adjusted free cash flow guidance to between $1 .9
and $2 .1 billion. And we continue to expect gap operating income and net income
in each quarter of this year. With that, I'll turn it over to Alex for
a few remarks, and then Ana will kick off the Q &A. Greetings.
By any normal or even reasonable standard, these are not normal
results. These are not even strong results. These aren't extraordinary results. These are arguably
the best results that any software company has ever delivered. And
that's not hyperbolic. Despite what your analyst friends may want you to believe, because
they've been wrong at every price, they're wrong at every single round. But of course,
they're persuasive, and they're not investing their own money. But a
normal enterprise company should not have a rule of 40 above 100. A normal enterprise
company at our base should not have over 100 % U .S. commercial growth, should
not have 77 % growth in the U .S. And by the way, that
growth is being held down by a stagnant Europe, which is still a significant
part of our business. So the pure unvarnished numbers are
77 % growth off of a massive significant base with very significant cash flow
with a company that throws off a rule of 40 of 114. And then if
this world was at all sane, every single person in the financial world would stop
and say, how did this happen? How did a company stand stood by the
American warfighter, marine special operators, people in clandestine
services who stood up for our right of free speech and was really the first
company to be completely anti -woke? How did this company
stick up for the American warfighter actually give normal Americans How did this company stand?
How did this company stand? How did this company stand? How did this company stand?
a rule of 40 of 114. And then if this world was at all sane,
every single person in the financial world would stop and say, how did this happen?
How did a company which stood by the American warfighter,
Marines, special operators, people in clandestine services, who stood up for
our right of free speech and was really the first company to be completely anti
-woke? How did this company stick up for the American warfighter,
actually give normal Americans venture quality results? So
one of the issues we have with the Arbiters of Truth is it was the
American worker that we supported and the American worker that we helped make rich. And
the Arbiters of Truth somehow did not participate in that because they were such experts.
And of course, you know, but what these numbers show is doing that and
taking the American worker along with it and doing it in a way that
foreshadowed the future. FDE, ontology, foundry, making each specific
institution, making the American warfighter fight the way the American warfighter is born to fight,
empowering the tenets of being, you know,
free and having the ability to do creative things in the battlefield context.
And then taking enterprises, instead of selling them commodity
parasitic software with a massive sales force, with a kind of lumbering,
jargon -bearing leaders offering you steaks and dinners and other
things we shall not mention, in order that you turn the value, the high value
revenue of your enterprise over to them in return for these
accolades, we created direct alignment with our customers. And what does that mean? It means
when our customers have a unique and tribal way of doing something, whether it's underwriting
or fighting or making workers even more valuable, we put an FDE,
we orchestrated an ontology, we take the tribal understanding of their business, the specific nature
of their business that makes them particular and valuable and lethal, and we
empower that. And how do we participate in that? Unlike seemingly, in the most
obvious way, we are downstream from the value of creation. So when you see 141
or you see 77 percent or 63 and you ask, and by the way, with
really a workforce that is not growing in any way linearly proportional to
that growth, and also with a sales force, which is declining, which seems improbable, the
reason why that's working is because we are making our clients more money or we're
making them more dominant on the battlefield, and they're paying us a subset of that.
And this is why these numbers are so extraordinary. The sociological
and political version of this should be, wait a minute, how can we learn from
this? How can we implement institutions? By the way, we have all these people talking
about an AI bottle. I'll tell you what 114 proves. There is a massive part
of the AI market that actually cares about value creation, and that's the part we
own. And we own that part because to do this, you have to have FD
orchestration, you have to have ontology, and you have to have foundry, and you have
to have access to the game. And you have to have deep understanding of how
to do that. And you have to have done this for a very, very long
time with products. By the way, and then the products are getting better and better
and better and better. And I'll let Shum talk about what we're doing on the
battlefield to the extent that he can, but you see the very similar trajectory where
we're giving America, both in industry and in government, a massive unfair advantage. And
again, you see it, like, if you look at our numbers, look at how poorly
Europe is doing. Look how well America's doing. Look how we're doing this. And again,
it's not just top line. The rule of 114 that we have shows top line
and bottom line growth that is distinctive, massive, and unique. And on top of everything
else, you know, there is this issue in the US that we're all focused on
at Palantir, which is what access, what portion of the GDP growth that we're blessed
to have in this country, meaning GDP growth defined or helped out
and bolstered by AI, what percentage of that is available to the American worker?
And so when we're, we're, you know, AI, GDP availability for the American worker. Okay.
The 114 that we have shows top -line and bottom -line growth that is distinctive,
massive, and unique. And on top of everything else, you know, there is
this issue in the U .S. that we're all focused on at Palantir, which is
what access – what portion of the GDP growth that we're blessed to have in
this country, meaning GDP growth defined or helped out and bolstered
by AI, what percentage of that is available to the American worker. And so when
we're – you know, AI – GDP availability for the American worker, meaning do they
participate in this growth, or is it just people around this table who are getting
richer and richer? And then you see our platform on the battlefield, as Sean was
mentioning. The people doing the coding in AIP are vocationally trained,
smart Americans with specific knowledge. They don't have – and actually – and
people on the factory floor, very same thing. People across the nation, truck drivers,
anybody with specific domain expertise is more powerful, more valuable in our
product than they were yesterday. In fact, the real misalignment of AI is with people
with commodity -like, high -trained, elite institution, general specialists. Capitalists, that's just
not as valuable as it was. And yes, the destructive – positive destruction
of capitalism is going to put that class of people, typically the class of people
that also is kind of skeptical of Palantir, under enormous pressure. But it is our
– what I see in these numbers and what I think we see in these
numbers is – you know, to be – put it slightly over the top, yeah,
we were right, you were wrong. And we are going to go very, very deep
on our rightness because it is exceedingly good for America. It's exceedingly good for the
American economy. It's as good for American workers. And you know what? I really enjoy
turning on TV and seeing some analysts explain why some other company is better than
ours simply because they didn't make any money on our company and probably aren't. And
we're just going to keep going and going and going. And then we're obviously not
going to forecast for next year. But I would say if you're thinking about how
this company is going to go, look at our ability to value create. Look at
our ability to create revenue on the top end. Look at it – look at
the unit economics of our business. If you're a technical expert in how do you
evaluate business, evaluate those numbers against any other business you've ever seen and then make
your decision. But, yeah, I'm wildly enthusiastic. I think we're wildly enthusiastic. And
thank you for those of you who stayed with us to enjoy these numbers, especially
Palantirians who work day and night to deliver these kind of numbers.
Thank you, Alex. We'll now turn to questions from our shareholders before opening up the
call. We received a few questions asking, what do you see as Palantir's unique differentiator
that others may not understand? Well, Alex mentioned a bit of this here. You know,
it's become fashionable, actually, for lots of companies to start hiring FDEs. The Financial Times
had an article about how it's the most popular new job title. But what you
see is that they don't really understand it. It's just mimetic. And if you –
everything, Alex, you said, like we build software that works, not software that ought to
work. We built software for the world as it exists, not a world that never
was. And this ability to find what's true, that comes from the FDE. Our measure
of success is not did we sell the software, it's did we solve the problem.
And we have built an entire software stack over two decades downstream of creating value
for our customers. That led to the ontology a decade ago, more than a decade
ago, which is a fundamental prerequisite to getting value out of LLMs and the enterprise.
And this past year, it led to AI Hivebind and AI FDE. The other thing,
which, like, is implicit in that is the way we work puts us up –
forces us to go up the chain of complexity every day. So we're taking on
the most painful, most integral, most valuable parts of the stack in every enterprise. And
it's precisely because, like, that's the way we actually lever our ability to deploy and
orchestrate FDEs. That's the way we make our product stronger. And quite frankly, that's the
way we produce these numbers because the closer you are to the front line of
the very complex problem that a black box was not meant to solve, cannot solve,
and at this point everyone knows a joke to believe it could solve, that's where
you – and, by the way, it's the safest position for us because this company,
we will always believe that we are outsiders. We need to be in the place
where the most valuable problem is being solved. And it's precisely because, like, that's the
way we actually lever our ability to deploy and orchestrate FDEs. That's the way we
make our product stronger. And quite frankly, that's the way we produce these numbers, because
the closer you are to the front line of the very complex problem that a
black box was not meant to solve, cannot solve, and at this point everyone knows
a joke to believe it could solve, that's where you – and by the way,
it's the safest position for us. Because this company, we will always believe that we
are outsiders. We need to be in the place where the most valuable problem is
being solved, because that's the way we end up staying, solving the problem tomorrow, and
the way we get paid. Thank you both. Our next question is from Dan with
Wedbush. Dan, please turn on your camera, and then you'll receive a prompt to unmute
your line. One.
And then with that, I'll see you.
Mr. Dan Ives, we don't see you. Oh, there you are. Yeah, great.
Look, obviously, another monster quarter for you guys. Congrats. So, my
question for you is, you know, for Alex and the team, what – can
you just walk through just the accelerated sales cycles that you're seeing from so many
companies that have gone to the boot camps? Like, what surprised you from –
when they come to you at that first sort of, you know, contact to now
actually launching deals? I mean, you know, maybe you could talk about that just in
terms of everything you're seeing anecdotally. Great. Thanks, Dan. So, I think, you know, we
look at U .S. commercial. We closed $1 .3 billion in TCV at 6x on
a dollar -weighted duration basis from what it was a year ago. And of those
deals, 83 were worth a million or more. 40 were $5 million or more. 21
deals were $10 million or more. I've been involved in a lot of those directly.
I'm feeling exactly what you're asking on the ground from customers. And what's happening now
is from the C -suite across the company, customers are coming to us looking to
not just say, let's do a use case. The customers we're having the most impact
are coming to us saying, how do we deploy this across our entire organization? How
do we reorganize our entire organization around Palantir and AIP? And that's what's happening on
the ground. And we're singularly focused on delivering the value to the customers, and that's
our go -to -market. How do we get the product to them and deliver the
value? Where Ryan is, like, really very much on the front line here is, you
know, there's both how many customers approach you. I think where we're seeing the biggest
shift is the customers who've approached us very quickly want to move to,
how would I change my enterprise to express it in a way that's most valuable,
according to my terms, in your product? And then, and literally want to reorg,
a shorthand version that we often use is, you used to have to take your
company private to change the unit economics of it. Basically, just like we're
providing venture results, high -end venture results to normal investors in the last couple years,
what we're doing actually in enterprises is providing a private equity -like transformation in the
public markets, in the public space, under the current leadership. And that's essentially
what our best – and, by the way, the other thing Ryan would tell you
about is our newer clients have much higher expectations of us. Like, they're like, essentially,
I want to transform my business. I want to do it in months. I want
to do it in the public eye while being in the public market, mostly, not
exclusively. And I want you to not only do the product side but also tell
us how would you actually implement AI, foundry, ontology, FTE model, and our tribal
knowledge to do that. And, you know, it's a completely different game. We used to
have to beg and plead to be – like, you know, when we first started
talking, we were begging and pleading to be at the margin of a problem that
could affect a subset of the business. By the way, Cham, you know, it's like
unfortunately he can only tell you 1 percent of what he's involved in. But this
is like exactly the same in the U .S. government around the world. It's like
the things that we're sitting on and working on are like crazy, crazy important, and
they're not downstream of the problem. They are the problem, and we're reshaping them.
Thank you both. Our next question is from Mariana with Bank of America. Mariana, please
turn on your camera, and then you'll receive a prompt to unmute your line. Afternoon,
everyone. Hello. I'm going to do as usual. By the way, Chom, you know, it's
like, unfortunately, he can only tell you 1 % of what he's involved in. But
this is like exactly the same in the U .S. government around the world. It's
like the things that we're sitting on and working on are like crazy, crazy important.
And they're not downstream of the problem. They are the problem. And we're reshaping them.
Thank you both. Our next question is from Mariana with Bank of America. Mariana, please
turn on your camera, and then you'll receive a prompt to unmute your line. Afternoon,
everyone. Hello. I'm going to do, as usual, a couple of questions, one on commercial,
one on defense or government. On commercial, I'd like to follow up to Dan's
question. And let's see if you can discuss what changed from a behavioral perspective,
from a customer's perspective, to see this accelerated appetite to incorporate volunteer
to not only accelerating how many customers you have, but also the existing
customers go to go up the value chain. And what changed internally as well? We
recently saw in a visit these like AI agents or AI FDs, like how are
you incorporating tech internally to be able to accelerate and catch up with that demand?
And on the government side, U .S. government up 50 % plus. It's really
impressive. And how do you think about opportunities like Golden Dome going forward
piling up to this? Well, you guys want to answer these questions? I think
that there's the external one, which is like what does it feel like? That's clearly
you. The internal one is a really subtle question. And I don't know, anyone should
jump in there. And then obviously you should have Sean opine on, yeah.
Well, do you want to start with commercial or? Sure, yeah. I think on the
external, I think it's like going deeper and deeper and more and more like tangible
results with customers where there's a network effect incoming, like customer sharing impact
that we're having and direct impact we're having with customers. are seeing as we, you
know, it's a continuation of what we've been doing, but going deeper and deeper with
the customers on that impact. And I think that, you know, what we're seeing is
more and more are now coming to us saying, and the ones that are most
impactful are coming to us saying, let's do more. You know, Ryan is our best
at being a wonderful, I'll just give a vulgar version here. You know, our clients
realize the choices suck, basically. And they've tried a lot of stuff. It hasn't worked.
And then we're in so many verticals. We, you know, we're, say, let's just say
we're in vertical 252 and we dominate for one customer. People see that. And then
they're like, oh, well, I'll try this with some, I don't know, knockoff, have fake
thing. You know, it's just like, you know, and then a lot of people really
still don't understand that are still trying to do this long migration where, you know,
LLMs are going to perform as if they're LLMs and ontology and as if the
LLMs were not a commodity. And then, but then in the marketplace, they see the
final result of someone else using ontology, foundry, FDE. And now it's like, wait a
minute, you know, I'm paying hundreds of millions of dollars and getting nothing. And the
person down the road I kind of look down on is way ahead of me
and their unit economics are transforming overnight. And that just shifts the whole conversation
because then we're like, okay, well, if you want it to work, you're going to
have to do these five things. And these things are like you're going to have
to talk to Ryan and you're going to have to, I don't know, occasionally meet
with me. And you're going to have to actually allow us to come in with
engineers. And we're going to have to actually work on the problems that are valuable
for your business and also look at the costs that are dragging you down. By
the way, the cost for most businesses is not just the actual money they're wasting.
That wasted money creates an ecosystem of waste. They're talking to all these vendors all
the time about all these things will never work instead of solving the problem. It's
like, and so getting the pathogens out of their business is a real issue. And
now they're really, really interested in this. And so – and then on the internal
front, I would say, you know, it's just we have to
double down – the most important thing for us internally is with all this success,
we do not want to give up the unique attributes of Palantir and
somehow purchase fake ways for us that are artificial for us. And so
making sure we are very, very close to the problem and making sure everyone here
– like if you heard our internal dialogue, it's much more like who's on the
factory floor here? What are we doing internally? And then on the internal front, I
would say, you know, it's just we have to double down.
The most important thing for us internally is with all this success, we do not
want to give up the unique attributes of Palantir and somehow purchase
fake ways for us that are artificial for us. And so making sure we
are very, very close to the problem and making sure everyone here, like if you
heard our internal dialogue, it's much more like who's on the factory floor here? What
are we doing internally? How do we make sure our products are better and better?
How do we make sure, say, Sham, you know, is a savant at going around
and figuring out what the underlying tech issue is. How do we make sure we
have the best product team and the very, very exact right fit for every single
deployment across our deployments that we care about, especially mission deployments, which we highly,
highly overvalue in terms of our time and energy. And, like, how do you make
sure Palantir stays as tribal and cultist and unique as it was 20 years ago?
How do we double and triple down on that? And how do we recruit the
right people? And then internally we have, look, we power ICE, we power efforts to
defend American, Ukraine, and with allies. We're on the front line of all adversaries, including
vis -a -vis China. And we support – we're at ICE, and
we've supported Israel. Okay, these are very controversial. I don't know why this is all
controversial, but many people find that controversial. Okay, so how do you align people to
focus on these things in a way that is actually beneficial for us and our
clients? These are really hard and tricky issues that we spend a lot of time.
I would say as an overarching thing, because what we found is the more we
focus on our internal dynamics, the better our numbers are. That's why we have less
salespeople, and we have 77 percent growth in 75 percent of our market,
121 percent growth in U .S. Com. Please tell that to some of your friends.
I don't even understand how they can look at these numbers and not drop the
key out of their Motel 6 and just, like, say – you know what I
mean? They're, like, they're bombastic numbers. But it's, like, internal focus.
I'll make the mistake of trying to follow Alex there and just say, on the
internal side with AIFDE, that's why we actually originally built it. You know, our headcount
has grown roughly 10 percent, but revenue grew 63 percent. How are we doing that?
You know, we've made our FDEs wildly more productive, and, I mean, so much so
that we decided to give it to our customers, and we've started to make our
customers more productive. When you have a note like the Army Vantage note where the
Army is consolidating into the Army data platform, you now have an army, literal army
of green suitors who need to become proficient developers in the software. And you have
a generation of green suitors whose first interaction with the software is going to be
with AIFDE. They're going to be superheroes on day one. I think it's accelerating adoption.
It's accelerating understanding, like, the depth of adoption. Not just are you using it, but
how much of it are you really using? How much of it can you understand?
And then quickly on your comment on the U .S. government business, like, yeah, the
number of opportunities out there are great. I can't comment on all the opportunities you
mentioned there, but whether it's NGC2, the continued growth of MAVEN. I mean, we have,
of course, America's involved with three conflicts right now in the world, from Europe, the
Middle East, and in our own hemisphere right now. And things are getting a little
spicy in Africa. By the way, let me say something slightly political, and I'm not
saying other people agree with this. But when people are attacking our soldiers for
stopping fentanyl from coming to this country, I want people to remember, if fentanyl was
killing 60 ,000 Yale grads instead of 60 ,000 working -class people, we'd be dropping
a nuclear bomb on whoever was sending it from South America. So, you know, it's
slightly like we in this – at Palantir, we are on the side of the
American, average American, who sometimes gets screwed because all the empathy goes to elite
people, and none of it goes to the people who are actually dying on our
streets. And that's why, you know, it's like when you have an open border, it
means that the average poor American earns less. I know my fellow progressives believe having
an open border is going to make things, but that's because they're actually repping elite
people instead of the working class. And the same thing in South America, where it's
like, you know, to believe our Constitution does not give us the right to stop
60 ,000 deaths a year of working -class men and women is insane. And this
country is right to stop that, and I am very proud. I don't know all
the efforts we're involved in. goes to elite people, and none of it goes to
the people who are actually dying on our streets. And that's why, you know, it's
like when you have an open border, it means that the average poor American earns
less. I know my fellow progressives believe having an open border is going to make
things, but that's because they're actually repping elite people instead of the working class. And
the same thing in South America, where it's like, you know, to believe our Constitution
does not give us the right to stop 60 ,000 deaths a year of working
class men and women is insane. And this country is right to
stop that, and I am very proud. I don't know all the efforts we're involved
in, but to the extent we're involved in these efforts, I and most Palantirians are
very proud of this. You're here. Thank you. Alex, as
always, we have a lot of individual investors on the line. Is there anything you'd
like to say before we end the call? We're rocking along.
Please turn on the conventional television and see how unhappy those that
didn't invest in us are. Get some popcorn. They're crying.
We are every day making this company better, and we're doing it for
this nation, for allied countries, and also for – and I know I
really like the term retail investors. How about sane people who put up their own
money and fight for us? And by the way, you know, you are fighting for
the right side of what should work in this country, meritocracy, lethal technology vis -a
-vis adversaries, products that spread GDP to working class men and women
by making their value creation higher, and, by the way, your bank account, and thank
you for that. Thank you. That concludes Q &A for today's call.
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