Political Prophet Predicts the Next Phase in Iran, Trump’s War Plan, & Israel’s Plot to Sabotage It

Professor, thank you very much for doing this.

We've we've never met. I don't know a great deal about you, but I have seen a number uh of your videos in which you make remarkably accurate predictions.

Um, so that's what I know about you and I'm impressed by that by your ability to call events before they happen. So with

that in mind, let me ask you, where do you think this war in Iran is going? How

will it be resolved? and what are the consequences likely to be?

>> Well, thanks so much for inviting me, Tucker. I'm a huge fan. I've been uh

Tucker. I'm a huge fan. I've been uh among your work for a number of years now.

>> Thank you.

>> So, I think that this war in Iran uh will be very similar to the war in Ukraine, meaning that this will be drawn out, be a war of attrition. Uh neither

side will concede defeat even though it is in their best interest to reach a ceasefire. And this will have dram

ceasefire. And this will have dram dramatic consequences on the uh global economy. Um and this war could drag on

economy. Um and this war could drag on for years and years. Already we're

seeing major repercussions on the global economy in that flights are being cancelled. Uh in Southeast Asia they ran

cancelled. Uh in Southeast Asia they ran out of fuel. So they're asking people to stay at home and um in a few more months uh experts are predicting a food

shortage meaning that nations will be forced into food rationing and um today there's a major escalation in that the Israelis struck the largest gas field in

Iran and Iran retaliated by attacking energy infrastructure of the GCC. Um and

Iran has stated that its purpose, its goal, its strategy is to move oil to $200 a barrel, which will have um a really significant impact on the global

economy because the entire global economy is based on access to cheap energy. So unfortunately, I think that

energy. So unfortunately, I think that we can expect this war to drag on for years and years. Eventually, America

will send in ground troops. Uh

eventually the hormos will be contested.

Um eventually this will spread all across the world. Eventually other

nations be drawn in. So Saudi Arabia uh is thinking about declaring war on Iran and Saudi Arabia has a neutral defense pack with Pakistan. So Pakistan will be

drawn into this into this war. So um

things are sping out of control and um just recently um Ali uh Larajini who is the de facto head of the Iranian war

effort was assassinated and um he was a pomatic um elder statesman in Iran who who had the authority to negotiate a ceasefire. Now that he's gone um there

ceasefire. Now that he's gone um there really is no more offramp. So um both sides are committed to a long war of attrition and uh the consequences for

the entire global economy are quite dire.

That is u I I wouldn't say that's the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario would include a nuclear strike by one or more actors and the destruction of the Oxamos complex in

Jerusalem which would spark a religious war. So that's as bad as it could get.

war. So that's as bad as it could get.

But you've just described one step before the worst which is protracted, destructive, impossible to stop. So my

question is because there are so many global players, big global players, the US and China I think who would be hurt by this, why is there not an incentive

to get it settled quickly and why can't that happen?

>> Right. Um so once this war starts it um it's it it achieves a momentum and

a logic of its own. So um the United States h doesn't really have an offramp meaning that if it um tries to negotiate

a ceasefire with Iran, Iran would ask for reparations about $1 trillion basically. um it would ask for the

basically. um it would ask for the United States to leave the Middle East permanently to ensure its long-term survival. If the United States were to

survival. If the United States were to do that, then the GC the GCC nations would collectively become client states of Iran because only Iran can guarantee

their safety as well as um use of the shared home. The GCC is the basis of the

shared home. The GCC is the basis of the petro dollar. So what the GCC does is it

petro dollar. So what the GCC does is it sells oil in US dollars and then recycles this money back into the American economy. So if the GCC were to

American economy. So if the GCC were to abandon the petro dollar, then this would have severe repercussions on the American economy. Also, there'll be a

American economy. Also, there'll be a chain um a chain reaction in that um Japan and South Korea would look at what's happened in the Middle East and

decide that the United States can no longer guarantee its their safety. So,

they would have to remilitarize um and they would have spent all the resources on on adapting to the possible China threat. And then you have Europe

China threat. And then you have Europe and the Europe um would look at what happened in the GCC as well as in Southeast Asia and they would be like why are we fighting Russia? Wouldn't it

be in our best interest to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia as soon as possible? What this would mean the

possible? What this would mean the collapse of the uh US dollar as a global reserve currency. Remember that America

reserve currency. Remember that America is sitting on $39 trillion in debt. And

so the American economy is a Ponzi scheme that relies on um foreign nations to continually buy US dollars. So the US economy would not be able to withstand

essentially uh American withdrawal from the Middle East. So the Americans are stuck where they are right now unfortunately.

>> What is the Chinese perspective on this?

I mean, it seems like China has an interest in peace in the in the Persian Gulf with those seven oil producing countries. Why

wouldn't China step in and try to settle this?

So, both United States and China benefit from the status quo. Um, and China has invested interest in seeing a very quick

solution to uh this war in Middle East.

China imports about 40% of its uh energy needs from the GCC. So not just Iranian oil but also Qatari natural gas. Right.

>> So as you point out, China very much wants to see as soon as possible a ceasefire. Um unfortunately um it is the

ceasefire. Um unfortunately um it is the nature of the Chinese government not to interfere in um foreign affairs. It it

China doesn't really have a geopolitical framework, a grand strategy. it really

believes in global trade and it doesn't really have a framework for how to uh resolve armed conflict and so Chinese policymakers are really stuck and in

fact Chinese Chinese policy makers have come out publicly saying that they would like uh the carnage the violence in Middle East to stop as soon as possible

and for the straight moose to open up.

Um but unfortunately um as I pointed out previously when war a war starts it achieve a momentum and a logic of its own and it's very hard to stop a war

once it starts.

>> So if your prediction is correct and I pray that it's not and I'm sure you do too. hope that you're wrong, but if

too. hope that you're wrong, but if you're not wrong, >> yes, >> and this continues to grind in the way that it is now, destroying energy infrastructure, just really destroying

the civilizations uh of the region and Iran and the GCC, what does that look like in say 2 years globally? What's the

effect on the global economy?

>> Right. So, um this war it will accelerate three major trends. Um and

nations will have to adapt to a new reality in which energy is no longer cheap and accessible. Uh the first major trend is de-industrialization.

Um meaning that right now you just have too many people living in in cities and you can do that as long as you can import cheap energy and cheap food. But

when cheap energy and cheap food are gone, then you need people to work the fields to grow food for your economy. So

you have to de-industrialize uh and reduce your energy dependence. Okay,

that's one major trend that we should see very soon. Second major trend we should see is remil militarization in that um before we had tax americana

where America basically guaranteed global peace um and America basically prevented nations from going to war against each other. So for example um Trump brokered a ceasefire between India

and Pakistan uh because these two nations have much hostilities against uh each other. But now that America doesn't

each other. But now that America doesn't no longer has the aura of invincibility and ability now that the American military does does not come across as

almighty then uh America doesn't have the power to stop kids from attacking each other on the playground anymore. So

nations have to remilarize um especially nations like Japan which before relied too heavily on American military protection. Okay. So that's

military protection. Okay. So that's

number two the remilitarization of the world. And the third major trend we

world. And the third major trend we should see is mercantalism. Meaning that

now that global trade is disrupted nations, especially advanced industrial nations such as Japan and Germany, they need to create their own independent, self-sufficient supply chains.

Fortunately, America doesn't have this issue because the western hemisphere is extremely wealthy uh and abundant in natural resources. Um but if you are

natural resources. Um but if you are Japan and Germany then you have to reach out and expand your borders if you are to maintain your industrial might. So

these are the three major trends we should be seeing very quickly. Well,

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I mean, we've of course seen this exact dynamic very famously in the last century. And I do think Japan is the big

century. And I do think Japan is the big question mark because traditionally, you know, a rising power, a great power like

China just kind of intuitively demands hegemony in its own region. Like China

controls the east. I would imagine that's the Chinese perspective. But in

the way of that are Japan, the historic enemy, and South Korea, but particularly Japan, and I know that people in your country are very focused on Japan. So,

is it plausible that China allows Japan to become say a nuclear armed power at this point?

Right. So, um from the surface, it seems as though Japan has a lot of structural weaknesses. Okay? So, for example, it

weaknesses. Okay? So, for example, it has an aging population. It has the oldest population in the world. That's a

huge constraint on the future growth potential of Japan. Another problem for Japan is that it is resource dependent.

It relies on imports for its resources.

Um and Taiwan clo it blocks off the sh of Malaka, right? Because Japan requ um um requires most of its energy from the GCC through the sh of Malaka and Taiwan

will be a barrier. So if Taiwan were to reunify with China, then basically Japan could be blockaded and um they could be

starved. Um and the other major issue

starved. Um and the other major issue with Japan is its economy where for the past 30 years it's in a deflationary spiral because of its um excessive debt

debt burden. So there are fundamental

debt burden. So there are fundamental weaknesses to Japan. But um I'm I'm a historian and I study historical patterns and what I've seen is that the

Japanese people are incredibly resilient. You go back to the 13th

resilient. You go back to the 13th century when the Mongols emitted not once but twice. And at this time Japan was very much a feudal nation divided into different thiefs and they came

together as a people to defeat the greatest empire in in the world at that time not once but twice. And you go to the uh middle of the 19th century when

uh China was being carved up by these western industrial powers and it seemed as though Japan was what they be carved up as well. But the Japanese engaged in something called the Maji restoration

and in 20 to 30 years time they went from a feudal backward nation into an industrial power that ultimately defeated Russia in the Russian Japanese war of 1905.

>> Right? And then you go to World War II when American devastated Japan uh not just nuclear strikes but also the firebombings. Yes. So at the end of

firebombings. Yes. So at the end of World War II, Japan was completely devastated. But in like 20 years time,

devastated. But in like 20 years time, in a generation, they became the world's greatest manufacturing power. So I would not count the Japanese out. There's

something about their culture that is extremely resilient, um extremely entrepreneurial, and I think that given crisis, they will come together as a people and adapt to these challenges.

Um, and so, um, I, if I were to bet if if you give me like a billion dollars and said, "In East Asia, you can invest your money either in China or Japan, or you could you could invest half and

half." Well, Tucker, I'll be honest with

half." Well, Tucker, I'll be honest with you. Um, I would invest all my money in

you. Um, I would invest all my money in Japan.

That's a what a fascinating analysis. I

I I agree with you. I just I mean intuitively I agree with you, but I I just wonder if China can tolerate that given the history between the two countries and the focus and just the

growth of China. Can they really allow right in the middle of of East Asia a competing power, >> right? So the major issue with China is

>> right? So the major issue with China is that it sells itself the middle kingdom.

um you know jungo the middle kingdom which is to say that the Chinese believe that they are a universe onto themselves what happens outside China doesn't really impact China so it's important is

to maintain the national sovereignty of China because it is a self-sufficient nation that has no interest in the outside world Japan is complete opposite in that it is an island and it requires

to uh it basically needs to extract resources from other nations in order to survive as a nation so these are two very different mentalities where um China is very much an agricultural

self-sufficient nation that is insular and conservative and Japan is an outward-looking um uh seafaring nation.

>> Interesting. So you it it sounds like they they can coexist or well you just said it you're not betting against Japan. What about South Korea which has

Japan. What about South Korea which has the one of the lowest if not the lowest birth rate in the world in contrast to North Korea um and has basically modeled

itself uh on the United States. I mean

down to the to the most basic level. The

US pulling back from East Asia is I mean that's going to be a transformative thing I would think for South Korea.

What happens?

>> Yeah, South Korea is in a very precarious position um partly because of North Korea. Um so once the United

North Korea. Um so once the United States is forced to withdraw from Southeast Asia then North Korea can take the initiative. Now the problem with um

the initiative. Now the problem with um this conflict is that Seoul the largest city in South Korea it's only 30 minutes away from North Korean artillery. So in

like a whole day um North Korea could flatten Soul >> and so South Korea is in a very precarious position. Also if you look at

precarious position. Also if you look at the economy of soul of South Korea it's a very oified very corrupt um system

where just a few companies um control the entire economy and this is what's led to um intense competition in South

Korea which has led to the the extremely low birth rate in uh South Korea. So um

South Korea is in a very precarious uh position. But what I will say about the

position. But what I will say about the South Koreans is that they are fanatical workers. They work really really hard

workers. They work really really hard and they have a long memory of colonial persecution um from both the Chinese and the Japanese. And these are fiercely

the Japanese. And these are fiercely independent people. So I I would not be

independent people. So I I would not be surprised if North Korea and South Korea were to were to come to a compromise at some point uh because both nations

aspire uh for national reunification and because China Japan will be in conflict with each other then the Korean people could actually um navigate this conflict

to their benefit.

>> That's very smart. I I I sense you're absolutely right about that. Let let me just ask you about an observation you made parathetically a second ago, which is because

South Korea's economy is oified and centralized, it's a monopoly economy, its birth rate is low. What's the

connection between economic monopolies and low birth rate? Yeah, great

question. So, when you have a monopoly, what you do is you create a hierarchy, right? because everyone's trying to get

right? because everyone's trying to get into these companies because these companies are the most prestigious in South Korea and South Korea is very much a confusion culture where face is

everything. So um the problem though is

everything. So um the problem though is how do you get into these companies?

It's a very uh prestigious position where everyone's trying to get in, right? And so you usually get in through

right? And so you usually get in through the um college entrance examination um which allows you to get into prestigious

university, right? So um if you are a

university, right? So um if you are a South Korean couple, your strategy is either not to have children because you cannot afford to play this game because

you need to send your kid to cram schools, get the best tutors, basically focus all your resources on ensuring the child does well on the college examination so that he or she can get

into Samson. Um or you can choose to

into Samson. Um or you can choose to have so you can choose not not to have any children because it's too expensive for you. But if you choose to have a

for you. But if you choose to have a children, you can only choose have one kid because it's much more strategic for you to put all your resources into one kid and spread it over three or four

kids. Um so so that that's why um an

kids. Um so so that that's why um an economic monopoly would naturally lead to a low birth rate. So what you're saying is intense competitions for

resources, scarce resources produces an incentive that results in low birth rate.

>> Exactly. because everyone sees themselves as competitors against each other and you lose a sense of community, right? Because you have a lot of

right? Because you have a lot of children um because you want to contribute to the community and grow as a nation. But when you see your neighbor

a nation. But when you see your neighbor as your enemy, then um that reduced your incentive to have children.

>> Interesting. So what will be the economic effects on China and and also on the on the rest of Asia and Southeast Asia, you know, Philippines, Vietnam? Um

if this energy crunch continues in the Middle East, >> the reality is that uh this war in the Middle East is having a severe impact already on uh the entire Southeast Asian

economy. So uh India imports about 60%

economy. So uh India imports about 60% of its oil from the GCC. Uh Pakistan

also imports a majority of its oil.

Japan imports about 75% of its oil from uh the GCC. China imports about 40%.

Okay? So all these countries are being impacted and already Thailand, Vietnam are running out of fuel. Um and you you go to the gas station, there's just no more fuel for your for your motorbike

and now people are being forced to work from from home. There's there's fuel rationing. Um there's no jet fuel. So

rationing. Um there's no jet fuel. So

this is impacting all of Southeast Asia.

So the question isn't like who will be impacted because everyone's impacted.

The question is who will be most resilient and the most willing to innovate and adapt to this new reality?

because we're not talking about a short-term war. We're talking about a

short-term war. We're talking about a long-term changeable economy. And I

think that China will actually be um the least resilient and the least ready to adapt to this new reality because for the past 30 40 years um China has has

gone on very wealthy um because of the global economy where it imports cheap energy and exports manufactured goods and the entire Chinese economy is currently based on this model. Now, for

the past 20 years, China has been moving towards a consumer-based economy and more of an innovation-based economy, AI.

But unfortunately, AI itself is dependent on cheap energy. And Chinese

consumers are refusing to spend money for a variety of reasons. Primarily

because they're not they are not that optimistic about China's um um growth for the in the future. So, uh Chinese household savings is about 4%. And

unless the government is able to get Chinese to spend more money, then it's it'll be very hard for the Chinese economy to move towards a consumer-based economy. So, um all of Southeast Asia

economy. So, um all of Southeast Asia will be impacted and I think China will be impacted uh the most in the long term, maybe not the short term because China still has access to Iranian oil.

You know, Scott does announced today that they will lift sanctions on Iranian oil in order to make sure the global economy is not too impacted by this war.

But in the long term um the Chinese economy it is now much too um focused on export um and manufacturing in order to shift to a much more diversified

economy.

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hemisphere is just tremendous. I mean

the western hemisphere is self-sufficient but that's not true for Southeast Asia. Southeast Asia is very

Southeast Asia. Southeast Asia is very dependent on uh energy from overseas.

>> How does this affect Africa?

Right. Um so with this war in uh Ukraine and with this war in the GCC um experts are saying that in the worst case

scenario you could have famine in Africa because so much of um uh food and energy

um sustains the African um economy and and so um yeah >> um okay just moving west now. Um what

about the GCC?

What does that look like in 5 years?

>> Right. So unfortunately

the um biggest loser of this war regardless of how how it turns out okay even Americans were to win the biggest loser is the GCC because for the past 30

40 years um the GC is basically b built on a mirage because it's essentially a desert with very little access to um fresh water and very little agriculture

and so it couldn't really sustain a large population. Um but with the petro

large population. Um but with the petro dollar and with American military production then um the GCC nations felt free to invest in technology that

allowed them to grow their population.

Right? So these desalination plants um modern infrastructure. So you sort of

modern infrastructure. So you sort of saw this massive growth in Dubai, in Qatar um in Riyad. Um and what this war

has done is shattered this mirage and revealed uh the limitations of the GCC.

So for example look at Dubai. So Dubai

for many years has prided itself as this safe um very cosmopolitan very open tax haven. So a lot of wealthy people

haven. So a lot of wealthy people immigrated to uh Dubai but um because of this war and we're only talking about like a few drones hitting hotels um it's

really shattered the image of Dubai uh and once you shadow this mirage you can never ever um um rebuild it again. So

the idea of Dubai as as like the future New York or London, the financial capital of the GCC, it's this mirage has evaporated.

>> Iran in 5 years.

>> So Iran is being devastated right now.

Um so the Israelis and Americans are attacking um critical infrastructure. So

the Israelis uh attacked the largest gas field in um Iran. The dissalination

plant uh was uh destroyed. But we also have to remember what is being hidden from us. And what's being hidden from us

from us. And what's being hidden from us is the fact that the Israelis and Americans are trying to destroy the capacity of the state to govern the

nation. Basically destroy the state's

nation. Basically destroy the state's monopoly on violence. And so what what we're hearing are attacks on police officers, on military installations, and

there's talk of special forces going into um Iran and starting to fund fund dissident groups, right, like the Kurds and the um Galakis in souththeast

um Iran. So no matter what happens um in

um Iran. So no matter what happens um in this war, it's going to be very hard for the government to maintain national um

control um even if they were to survive this war. And also another huge issue

this war. And also another huge issue for Iran is that for the past few years it suffered drought issues. Um so it agriculture was heavily impacted. They

were actually talking about moving um terrain uh um like moving these millions of people out of the city of terrain because the capital can no longer

sustain this large population. So um

this war will only exaggerate these environmental issues um especially with the attacks on critical civil infrastructure for example dams

reservoirs um the dissolation plants and it's going to take years and years for Iran to recover from this war um as a

nation and you you have um basically the storing of ethnic settlements um you have the destruction of the state's capacity to deliver basic services. But

the good news for Iran is that it seems as though they will be able to maintain control over the strip of hummus. And

that is critical because now they're able to charge a toll on anyone who uses a strip of homeus. And they're talking about 10%. Which should generate about

about 10%. Which should generate about about $800 billion a year annually for Iran. So the nation will be destroyed um

Iran. So the nation will be destroyed um in this war. But um it but if it's able to harness the u pride of the Persian

people, if it's able to unify the Persian people uh and it's it's able to leverage the resource of the most um effectively then uh we can expect uh Iran to rise again in like 10 to 20

years time.

>> Where is Israel in a few years from now?

So if you look at the main beneficiary of this war, it is Israel because Israel has an ambition called the greater Israel project which is what they

believe that their God Yahweh promised to their um ancestor Abraham. Um and so they believe that Yahweh promised uh

Abra Abraham all the land from the Nile in Egypt to Euphrates in um Iraq. If you

look at the entire map, it also extends to Anatolia, which is southern Turkey, and even into Saudi Arabia. So, if you look at what's happening, well, it's convenient in that the GCC is being

destroyed. Saudi Arabia will probably

destroyed. Saudi Arabia will probably drawn into this war. It is possible Turkey will be drawn into this war as as

well. And this war allows Israel to

well. And this war allows Israel to remake the Middle East in its own image.

Also, if you think about it, according to game theory, the main constraint to Israel achieving the greater Israel project is actually not Iran, but

America. Because America guarantees the

America. Because America guarantees the military safety and protection of the GCC, uh Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait,

Ban, uh UAE, these nations. And so if Israel is become dominant, uh it's become the hedgeimon of the Middle East, it needs to figure out how to remove America from the equation. And quite

honestly, uh this war has shown the limitations of American power. It's it's

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was clear to me that that was part of the motive um that Israel understood this and rope the United States into this war in order to get the United States out in

order to hurt the United States and get the United States out of the Middle East. Do you think that will be

East. Do you think that will be successful?

Um I think the way this war is going, this plan will work. And the reason why is the the American military has not

fought a real war for decades. 2003 this

war in Iraq was not a real war because Saddam Hussein basically gave up. He

didn't have air defense because those economic sanctions had destroyed his economy. And his logic was this. Let the

economy. And his logic was this. Let the

Americans invade. They can't possibly invade because if they destroy us that would make Iran uh which has hostilities against America the regional power. So

why would America do this? It is

self-defeating. It is not logical. It is

not rational. So I'm not worried about them um um attacking me. And he was surprised when they did attack because it was not logical. It was not rational.

Um but they did they did attack. It was

it was a cakewalk. It took about two weeks. um America achieve um air

weeks. um America achieve um air supremacy very quickly and they rolled into Baghdad in very very quickly and toppled the regime. So that was a very

quick and easy war that fit the American military of shock and awe. Um, Iran is completely different and the American military does not want to fight this war

because they've war game this countless countless times and each war game they discover that they they they lose because the American military it's it's too bulky. It's not as nimble and

too bulky. It's not as nimble and resilient as the Iranian military. And

we're seeing that play out right now where you have these devastating um carriers, Abraham Lincoln and Nerald Ford threatening uh Iran but not actually doing anything because they're

afraid of getting too close to the coast of Iran because then they they become susceptible to drone strikes as well as hypersonics. So the Iranians have have

hypersonics. So the Iranians have have been preparing this for 20 plus years.

They know the entire American playbook and they have the perfect strategy to counter uh the American playbook. So

America will have a really tough time winning this war. The great problem okay the big question now is will America send in ground troops because once America sends in ground troops then it

becomes pot committed. It's it's mission creep some cost fallacy it like Vietnam over. So right now there's talk of 200

over. So right now there's talk of 200 Marines uh who've um um coming in from Okinawa. They'll be in the Middle East

Okinawa. They'll be in the Middle East in about 7 days time. Um and the talk is the rumor is and I don't know but the rumor is the intention is for for them

to take Car Island which is the main oil for Iran. So Iran uh exports 90% of its

for Iran. So Iran uh exports 90% of its oil from that facility the island. And

if the Marines were to take it, it would be great optics. you know, Trump would look good on TV. It it' be a great boost for the for American morale. The problem

is that you can take it, but you can't hold it because it's too close to Iranian coast and Iranians can attack with artillery, with drones, okay? Which

means that you now have to take take on the coast. You have you have to occupy

the coast. You have you have to occupy the coast and create a foreign operating base, but then you're exposed to the Zagos mountains, right? Which means that you're now forced to occupy the mountains as well. So, it's mission

creep. It's exactly like Vietnam where

creep. It's exactly like Vietnam where in 1965 um 3,000 Marines went into Dak Nan to to um occupy an air base and like four or

five years later you have you have a half a million troops, right? So it

started off as a very limited um self-defined mission but then it just balloons. Um so America could find

balloons. Um so America could find itself in the situation very quickly. If

you were the commander-in-chief of the United States, what would you do at this point as of today?

>> The commander-in-chief meaning Donald Trump.

>> Yeah. You get to make the decision. What

What does America do next? If it's

acting in its own interest, if it's trying to preserve its power and wealth at this point, what does it do?

>> Well, first of all, I would acknowledge that all these events are interconnected, right? So the sugar war

interconnected, right? So the sugar war with China, this war in Ukraine, this war in the Middle East, it's all interconnected because American empire

is um too overstretched and it has its fingers on everything and so it allows its enemies to provoke it into these um

never- ending wars. So what I would do is basically sit down everyone okay including Russia, China, Iran and say

it's time for a new world order where we are partners in this relationship right before America was a hedgeimon before the US dollar was a world reserve

currency. Uh but now what we want to do

currency. Uh but now what we want to do is open a dialogue where everyone is respected where um America is no longer the bully but a winning partner in

creating a new economic order that benefits everyone and not just and not just a few.

>> I I think that's the the wisest possible advice and probably the only path that preserves civilization.

Um, and but there the one country standing in the way of that is Israel, which is the only beneficiary of this war as you just said. I think that's true. Can you think of another

true. Can you think of another beneficiary other than Israel of this war?

>> Well, Russia benefits, right? Because

Russia is trying to win this war in Ukraine.

>> That's correct.

>> And um and America is forced to lift oil sanctions. And so now Russia is now able

sanctions. And so now Russia is now able to take all these war profits, right?

And then help the Iranians, finance the the Iranians in the struggle against the Americans and Israelis. So, the Russians also benefit tremendously from this war.

>> Yeah. But fair point, Israel has to be constrained by the United States in order to do what you just recommended it do. Is that

possible? Does the American president have the authority to control its client state?

Um, so if you look at the domestic situation in Israel, um, Israel no longer behaves rationally.

it is sort of overtaken by esquetological fever. Right? So if you

esquetological fever. Right? So if you look at uh videos coming out of Israel, there are rabbis going around saying that this war in the Middle East even

though it's destroying Tel Aviv, um it's good for us because this will lead to the to the coming of our Messiah. Um so

they believe that it is when Israel is under the most strain when Israel when the very existence of Israel is threatened then God will intervene

because the Jewish people will come together as a nation again and commit themselves renew their faith in God. And

once God sees the um blind trusting after the faith of the Jewish people, then he will save his people by sending his Messiah who will then redeem the um

uh Jewish people. So another saying this is secular temporal matters don't really matter. This war in the Middle East not

matter. This war in the Middle East not an issue. What matters is divinity. What

an issue. What matters is divinity. What

matters is our relationship with God.

Yes. So what matters is faith. and

nuclear bombs go flying doesn't really matter.

What it's what's what's so interesting is that you know 25 years ago at 911 whatever you think of how that happened and why there was I saw it personally

you know a political Islam there were wahhabists there were a lot of Islamic radicals around the world and for a bunch of reasons over 25 years that hasn't disappeared there still exist

Islamic radicals but it's not uh you know an important political force anymore at the same time as Islam in general has become much more moderate

and the GCC is kind of the most obvious example of this there has been a rise of Jewish Wahhabism and evangelical Christian

Wahhabism so to speak I mean you've seen this esqueological extremism among some American Protestants Christians and some

uh Israeli and American Jews what how did that happen what is at right. So first of all I I don't think

right. So first of all I I don't think we can over ever overestimate the influence of esquetology in American

politics. So I'll give an example where

politics. So I'll give an example where about a quarter of Americans are evangel evangelicals and and a lot of them are Christian Zionist. Um, so they believe

Christian Zionist. Um, so they believe that Israel is crucial, the lynch pin to achieving God's plan of and the return

of of Jesus. And so a very prominent figure that you probably know very well is John who runs something called the Christiansite for Israel. It's 7

million um u members and these are the people who are financing a lot of the conflict in uh the Middle East um in Israel because they're the ones who are

funding Westbank settlements. And so

Christian Zionism, it is an extremely powerful political force in um in America. So um your question is how did

America. So um your question is how did this happen? Um and yes, the the issue

this happen? Um and yes, the the issue the issue is that this is a plan um that has been in motion for centuries and

it's a very complicated um um uh history but it involves um uh different religious groups among the Jews Frankis Shabbat Lubovich which you've talked

about but also involves the Freemasons the Knights Templars the Rosacruians it involves the Jesuits so you have these different um different secret societies different religious organizations

working together through the centuries to achieve this plan for the end of the world which heralds the messianic age.

Okay. Okay. And there are different components of this plan but but the basic components are one is the um creation of the state the nation state

of Israel which happened in 194848 and then you you need to have um the building of the third temple which requires the destruction of the AXC

mosque which is actually um which could happen during this war um given what we've seen so far. So, the Israelis have closed off the Alex mosque um as well as

other religious uh sites like the church of holy uh separ um to tourists these past few days. Um there's rumors that for the past two years uh the Israelis

have been conducting these archeological digs under the AIC mosque to uh basically uh destroy the foundations of the mosque so so that it they they can

conduct a control demolition of the mosque and blame it on a missile strike from the Iranians. And there's actually talk um among the Israelis of using this plan to ignite a war between the Arabs

and uh the the the Persians. So the Alex mosy need each to be destroyed for the third temple. They also talk about this

third temple. They also talk about this war of Gog and Magog uh between Israel and the entire world. Um then the coming of the Jewish Messiah um the creation of

the greater Israel project. The return

of all Jews from the diaspora. Um so so there are different components to this plan. If you just observe geopolitical

plan. If you just observe geopolitical events, we're seeing these events converge together to today. I mean all these events are playing out. So it

seems as though there are these very powerful shadow forces working behind the scenes. We don't know who they are,

the scenes. We don't know who they are, but it seems as though they're able to control deal policy in a certain manner as to fulfill um their uh esot esotical

script.

>> What what role do you think Donald Trump plays in this?

Um, that's a really hard question to um, answer. So, so let's look at different

answer. So, so let's look at different possibilities. Okay, the first

possibilities. Okay, the first possibility is that he's been employed as an actor and he's just following a script, but he doesn't really know where

this movie is going. He's just doing his part, but he's been he's manipulated behind the scenes by people around him.

And you know um when reporters asked him like why is this war in Iran happening he did say that his advisers which includes civil cough Jared Kushner,

Peter Hexf, Marco Rubio told him that the Iranians were so close to getting a nuclear weapon and that the Iranians were attacked first. And so I was basically um misled. And I think I think

that's probably true in that uh Trump surrounds himself with certain people that have a certain political esqueological agenda. Um so that's one

esqueological agenda. Um so that's one possibility that he's just he's just an actor. Another possibility is that he

actor. Another possibility is that he himself has a mezzanic calling. Okay.

And what I mean by that is if you go back to 20 uh January 2021, he was politically dead, right? because the

January 6 um riots happened. Uh he he was impeached twice and then after he left office there was lawfare conducted against him and he went bankrupt. Um so

so it was it was as though the entire world went against him but now he's president of of the United States. And

so how how would he personally understand this? I think a lot of it is

understand this? I think a lot of it is God has asked him to serve. There's a

call to serve and he has to fulfill a mission. what this mission is. Okay,

mission. what this mission is. Okay,

what this mission is whether it's to save Israel, whether it's to save America, whether it's a part of a grander scheme, only he in his heart knows. And I think no one except him

knows. And I think no one except him knows. Okay, so I think that's another

knows. Okay, so I think that's another uh possibility. And the third

uh possibility. And the third possibility is that this is all Israel's doing. Netanyahu is the one who's forced

doing. Netanyahu is the one who's forced him into um this sort of situation because Israel is attacked first. And

Marco Rubio said this where you know what we we we wanted these negotiations but the Israelis were planning to to attack. If they attack the Iranians

attack. If they attack the Iranians would be compelled to attack both the Americans and the Israelis and we did not want to put our soldiers in harm's way so we attacked with the Israelis.

Okay. So it's possible this all Nanyahu and all his machinations. Um another

fourth possibility is they have they they have co-opted him like there's blackmail on him. there's um and and he has actually no choice but to do what he

says because um he's compromised in a certain way and maybe his family is under threat. So all four are

under threat. So all four are possibilities and quite honestly I have no idea which possibility is the most correct. Yeah. I don't I don't think I

correct. Yeah. I don't I don't think I don't think anybody does and I've really tried to keep you know speculation to a minimum. You always want to believe that

minimum. You always want to believe that people's motives are transparent that they state why they're doing what they're doing. But of course, you can

they're doing. But of course, you can never know what's inside a man, right?

Even in yourself, it's hard to know your own motives very often. So, I think that's a that's a wise take. Um, what

happens to North America, United States, and I I do want to include Mexico and Canada. We don't think a lot about those

Canada. We don't think a lot about those countries, but they're both massive land masses and they have big populations and they're our neighbors. And so, if the world is reorienting, I think you need to think in terms of continents rather

than just nation states. What What does that look like in three or four years?

>> Right. So um from a geopolitical perspective, if America is forced to retreat back into the Western Hemisphere, it needs to worry about um resources.

And so it is in the best interest of America to eventually uh take over and colonize both Canada and Mexico.

>> Yes.

>> Mexico for its labor supply, Canada for um its resources. You know, Canada is probably the wealthiest country in the world.

>> I know. Um, and so from a geopol geopolitical perspective, if the world is retreating into self-sufficiency, if there's mercantalism, if there's trade

barriers, the America has absolutely no choice but to ensure its own um um supply networks. And that that means

supply networks. And that that means eventually taking over Greenland, um Canada, Mexico, uh Latin America, Cuba,

Venezuela. Um, so America doesn't really

Venezuela. Um, so America doesn't really have much choice in this ma matter. At

the same time, what we're seeing is that this war as well as other events are causing political fissures in America, especially between left and right. So

witness what happened in Minneapolis in January, right? Um and so we can expect

January, right? Um and so we can expect that as this war continues and there's a strong possibility that Donald Trump will call a national draft in order to

uh ensure the manpower to fight this war then you will have rioting in the streets you have massive violence in which case the national guard is deployed there's a plan to deploy the national guard to all ma major American

cities by April and so unfortunately America u it's probably going to suffer a long many years of sectarian violence

U not a full-fledged civil war, but um maybe something along the lines of um the troubles in Ireland. Um you know, I'm I'm not sure if you've seen this

terrible movie called One Battle After Another. Uh it's just a terrible movie,

Another. Uh it's just a terrible movie, by the way, but um you know, it it gives you insight into what a civil war might look like where you have these insurgent groups fighting against the the the

state. Um, so yeah,

state. Um, so yeah, >> but you expect the United States to hang together as a coherent nation state.

>> Listen, Tucker, the United States is the greatest nation in the world. The people

are open, generous, entrepreneurial, energetic. Uh, the resources of America

energetic. Uh, the resources of America are infinite. America is a continental

are infinite. America is a continental fortress. So that uh it's protected by

fortress. So that uh it's protected by two oceans. America doesn't have a peer

two oceans. America doesn't have a peer competitor in um in in North America and South America. Um and so I mean America

South America. Um and so I mean America regardless of what happens, America will still come out doing pretty well just because of the pure energy um and

creativity of of its people. What? So

you mentioned Canada. Most Americans are don't even know the capital of Canada.

Canada does not appear on their radar doesn't figure in their thoughts. But

you described it as probably quote probably the richest country in the world. I think that's objectively true.

world. I think that's objectively true.

And yet Canada is not a a rich country.

In fact, it's getting poorer. Its life

expectancy is is declining. Its GDP is declining.

And that's on purpose. The the nation of Canada has been suppressed on purpose.

Its population is being killed off by the state um through its assisted suicide program and its population is changing through mass immigration against the will of the population. So

that country is being held down on purpose and my question is by whom and why?

>> Sure. That's a great question and this is something that I struggle with all the time because I am a Canadian citizen. Um I went to school there. Um

citizen. Um I went to school there. Um

so um my answer is that Canada was never really a nation state. It's more of a glorified research sorry glorified resource colony. Yes. for the British,

resource colony. Yes. for the British, the city city of London and um the reality is now that the British um are under a lot of strain um the city of

London is under a lot of financial pressure it sees place like Australia, New Zealand and Canada and what do you do um if you have financial issues where

you corporate you you do corporate restructuring right you change the middle management right and um historically um you You know the British got got

along very well with the Indian elite right they went into India and stole trillions of dollars from uh the Indians and the elite the Indian elite were

perfectly happy to help them right so why not use the same model for Australia for Canada so you know there are millions of Indians who immigrated to Canada in the past 5 years and it's put

a lot of strain on the Canadian economy because housing prices are you know um have have exploded and so orary Canadians can no longer afford to buy a

house and uh it's put this uh pressure on the Canadian welfare welfare system on the Canadian economy and you would think that the proper strategy would have a moratorum where they're like you

know what we've had too many immigrants and we need to close the borders and absorb these immigrants because we want to ensure that these immigrants have proper housing they have decent jobs right you would think that that that'd

be the right strategy but instead Mark Mark Carney goes to India and says we want more Indians and also we'll give you scholarships to come to

Canada to study for free. Meanwhile,

there are a lot of Canadians who are homeless, uh, who are unemployed and who cannot put food on the table, but hey, we want more Indians. So, if it's not corporate restructuring, if it's not

trying to acid strip Canada, I really don't understand the strategy for this.

Well, I mean, it's a kind of genocide, right, against Canadians, people whose ancestors built the country. But you wonder what the purpose is like this is because it

is happening all over the West, all over the English-sp speakaking world in the white countries, and it's not an accident. It's not organic. So, it's

accident. It's not organic. So, it's

it's a it's a big picture, you know, that spans from Australia to Ottawa. And

what are we what is that? Do you know?

>> Right. So, let's look at Europe because in 2014 um this was a major turning point in Europe because you had these tens of millions of refugees uh trying to escape these wars in the Middle East

um you know created by America's wars in the Middle East and they were trying to reach Europe and at this point Europe um had a choice. It could choose to close

its borders and maintain its cultural identity or it could open the floodgates. And Angela Merkel, the

floodgates. And Angela Merkel, the chancellor of Germany, she she said something really really um famous and that which stuck in my mind which is we can do this. We are Europeans. Somehow

we can take in these millions of refugees and welcome welcome them to into our societies and thrive as a people. And the complete opposite has

people. And the complete opposite has happened. You've got millions of these

happened. You've got millions of these refugees who um fled into Europe, not because of their choice, by the way, but because their nations were devastated,

right? Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq

right? Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq were all devastated, uh in in these wars in against terror in the Middle East.

So, um they go and these are proud Islamists. They they they love their

Islamists. They they they love their religion. They love their family. They

religion. They love their family. They

love the community. And so, they're not going to absorb themselves and assimilate themselves into Europe. And

and today, you know, you're looking at population replacement in a lot of cities. You go to certain places in

cities. You go to certain places in Britain and you might think you're in Cairo or Baghdad. Um and and this has caused tremendous conflict throughout

Europe. I would not be surprised in if

Europe. I would not be surprised in if like 2 to four years time you have civil war break out, insurgencies break out in place like Britain and and and France.

So the question is why is this happening throughout the world at the same time?

Exactly. Why is it that these different nations whether they're European, whether they're Canadian or Australian, why are they adopting the same policies not just in terms of co right but also

in terms of like immigration and so that's the one of the great questions that we have to ask about the world we we live in today. It seems as though it's almost a control demolition of

Western civilization, right? The the

Angosphere uh Western Europe. It seems

as though these nations are are being destroyed purposely. For what end? I I

destroyed purposely. For what end? I I

don't know. But I would just say there's a certain pattern that is that that has emerged and the result can only end up in the control demolition of these societies.

>> I don't think I don't I don't even think that's up for debate. I mean, of course, just look at the bottom line numbers, you know, of course, the white

populations are being killed on purpose.

And the question is why? And I don't have the faintest idea. And I know there's a lot of speculation as to who's doing it. I'll just say bluntly, I don't

doing it. I'll just say bluntly, I don't know. I mean, I know who the instruments

know. I mean, I know who the instruments are, of course, but Kier Starmer is not in charge of Great Britain. Mcronone

isn't in charge of France. I'm not sure how many leaders really do have control of their countries. I don't know how many countries actually have sovereignty. I I really don't know the

sovereignty. I I really don't know the answer, >> but something is going on. Is there any precedent for this in history? Have you

ever seen anything like this as a historian?

>> Right. So, you look at what's happening in Ukraine where the war is lost. It was

lost two years ago. The Ukrainians have lost over a million fighting men. A lot

of their people have fled overseas. Um,

no matter what happens in this war, Ukraine is finished as a nation state.

it is no longer viable as a nation state. And rather than emit defeat and

state. And rather than emit defeat and come to a ceasefire with Putin, what the Europeans are doing is they're saying that we're going to draft our men and

have them fight in the trenches of Ukraine, which would be suicide because the Russians dominate the battlefield with their drones and artillery and trenches in Ukraine. So, so it's almost

like like a suicide mission. But not

only that, but the Germans have said that, okay, we we can only um draft

German men, but not Islamic men because we we we're afraid of their loyalty, which means that you have a situation where, you know, local men like British,

French, German men are being sent to die in the trenches of Ukraine. and um you know back at home you have these immigrant population that have not

assimilated into your culture. Um so

it's a so it's a really weird strategy. Um and I don't know who comes

strategy. Um and I don't know who comes up with these sort of w with this sort of stuff. And look there's no historical

of stuff. And look there's no historical precedent for this. There just isn't. I

mean there's been um incidents of mass immigration.

Um you go back you go go go go go go back to the fall of the Roman Empire and how these um you know hordes of immigrants flooded the the the Romans

and um it's almost impossible to assimilate so many people eventually there's going there's going to be a cultural takeover eventually with so many people who are insistent on maintaining their their cultural

identity eventually because because they have more children than you eventually they're going to overwhelm your your cultural identity.

Yeah. And I I do think that is the story of history. One population replacing

of history. One population replacing another. There's no such thing as

another. There's no such thing as multiculturalism. There's always a

multiculturalism. There's always a dominant culture that, you know, that insists on dominance, of course. I just

don't think there's ever been anyone who thought this could happen globally, like a systematic targeting of a race for

elimination globally. I mean I well it

elimination globally. I mean I well it wasn't possible until pretty recently but it would be interesting to know what the plan is. There's clearly like a plan behind that. There's a plan behind

behind that. There's a plan behind everything. I I wonder how many

everything. I I wonder how many Americans do you think understand what's actually happening in the world right now?

>> You know, um unfortunately I think that if you are educated in America, you know, I I went to Yale Yale and so I I know a lot of these Ivy League people.

Yes.

>> Um unfortunately we've been indoctrinated to believe certain values and these values are not questionable.

So, so for example, um there was a court case that went to the Supreme Court about affirmative action at the University of Michigan. Um and

affirmative action is clearly against American values, against the idea of American meritocracy, right? But the

Supreme Supreme Court said that affirmative action was good because diversity is an inherent good. Okay? And

and it's interesting because if you go go to a place like Yale or Harvard or any of these Ivy League schools, there's actually very little diversity. I'm

talking about intellectual diversity.

Yeah. I mean like there's different skin color, but if you actually look at the ideas >> that they engage with in a classroom, it's a very conformist setting. So it's

it's one of these great ironies where a form of affirmative action is supposed to bring diversity to the classroom. Uh

but if you go to any classroom in an elite setting, it's extremely conformist. you're not allowed to bring

conformist. you're not allowed to bring up these issues about, you know, population replacement, immigration, because then you become you be called a racist. Um because and that's the worst

racist. Um because and that's the worst thing to be called, right? It's I mean like you're better off you're better off being called a pedophile, right?

Pedophiles have more rights now than than than racist. Um so um unfortunately it's not just what's happening um in current events. It's also what's

current events. It's also what's happening in the classroom where and in in the c popular culture where people are not even allowed to ask questions that are like blindly obvious if just

walk the streets of any you know western city. You've lived around the world. I

city. You've lived around the world. I

think you're now in China. Um

does the rest of the world see this more clearly?

>> Yeah. I mean, if you're not in the west and if you're not if you're not subjected to this u brainwashing indoctrination that they feed you uh in in the schools, it's I mean it's obvious

again it's blinding obvious to anyone if you just walk the streets of any major city in the west. So there's a joke in

China and and so popular so Chinese don't actually like to go to Canada for tourism and um someone asked why don't why does why doesn't anyone recommend

Chinese going to Canada and the response was well would you recommend someone going to India right so so it's a bit racist I it's it's very racist okay but

I mean I mean you know it's obvious to people >> it's just interesting Because like I'm not defending the whites. I am white of course but you know white people have done a lot of bad things just like any

people do a lot of bad things but in general people like to go on as you just noted vacation in white countries cuz they're pretty nice. So I think you'd have to say if you took the emotion out

of it and just like looked at it net net whites have been you know pretty big addition to the world invented a lot of stuff created a lot of beauty created places people like to go on vacation

which really is a good test. So like why would you destroy all that?

Look, so in my school I teach the great books. I teach western civilization. Uh

books. I teach western civilization. Uh

I teach Homer, the lead, the Odyssey. I

teach Plato, the Republic. I teach Dante the Divine Comedy. I teach the Bible.

And my students love it. Uh because

Western civilization, it's it's just not about people being white. It's really

about what it means to be human, right?

and what it means to be spiritual and to have connections with with the divine.

So um it's unfortunate that um just when the world needs western civilization the most the west decides to destroy its own civilization. I mean Homer, Dante,

civilization. I mean Homer, Dante, Plato, Shakespeare, the Bible, these are timeless classics that speak to every human. I know because I teach in China

human. I know because I teach in China uh to Chinese students who have absolutely no exposure to Western culture yet they fall in love with Plato, Dante, Homer and Shakespeare. And

why is that? And it it's because there is eternal truth um embedded in their in their words. And so um universities,

their words. And so um universities, Western universities ought to be the places, the fortresses that are the greatest defenders of Western

civilization. But if you go again to

civilization. But if you go again to these elite universities, Yale, Harvard, they are the most critical of Western civilization. They don't they no longer

civilization. They don't they no longer teach Homer and Dante Plato. And it's

like if you don't teach these classics, what's the purpose of university? I

always I always thought the university was the heart and center of civilization, right? It it it it's like

civilization, right? It it it it's like what monasteries were in the med medieval age. Um, and I thought these

medieval age. Um, and I thought these professors, they they would dedicate their lives to promoting the classics,

but instead they now promote complete nonsense like DEI and um, yeah, of all the and this is my last question, professor. Thank you. It's been a

professor. Thank you. It's been a wonderful conversation and I hope it won't be our last and I and I hope we can have dinner when we're on the same continent. Um, but this is my last

continent. Um, but this is my last question. Where since you've traveled so

question. Where since you've traveled so much and lived so many places and speak multiple languages, where would you say the part of the world that's most hostile to Western civilization as you

just described it is? Trying to

understand where this hostility is coming from.

Well, I would say um Canada, Britain, Western Europe, I would say these places are the most

hostile towards Western civilization. uh

Chinese people have tremendous respect for western civilization uh in fact in China's you know in the process of promoting uh the classics uh Plato Homer

Shakespeare with in China because Chinese recognize the tremendous cultural value and immense eternal truths embedded in these classics. So,

so we we're in a very weird situation where um the West is destroying itself by abandoning what makes it great. Uh-

which is, you know, these classics.

>> I think if we talk longer, I'm going to start to cry on camera, so I'm going to I'm going to take an emotional break here. Uh, Professor, thank you.

here. Uh, Professor, thank you.

>> Okay. No,

>> I do not mean I'm half kidding. No, it's it's emotionally resonant for me because I know that you're telling the truth and it comports with everything that I've seen and so it's hard to accept something that's true, but I think what

you're saying is true unfortunately. So,

uh, bless you for this and I hope to see you again soon. Thank you.

>> Yeah, I really enjoyed it, Tucker.