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Q & A - Astral Projection, Bible Version, Spirtual realm and power.

By Demon Erasers

Summary

Topics Covered

  • Septuagint Reveals Giants Masoretic Hides
  • Masoretic Cuts 1300 Years Post-Flood
  • Astral Projection Invites Demonic Danger
  • Belief Shapes Spiritual Reality

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Well, welcome to the Demon Erasers podcast. Ancient Angels podcast. Um, I

podcast. Ancient Angels podcast. Um, I

still haven't made a better intro yet.

So, JT, you don't get to you don't have to suffer through my >> It's fine. That's fine. You know, it's funny. Like, I made mine and then people

funny. Like, I made mine and then people said they like the old one better. So, I

was like, >> man, we can't please them. Can't please

them.

>> Well, some you know, it's it was probably 5050. Half the people liked it,

probably 5050. Half the people liked it, but they liked Aon's song. And I like a Aon song.

>> You know, >> I was never quite committed to it forever, but I >> I do feel like I might want to use the original music and then,

>> you know, maybe spice it up a little bit. Just just a little bit of little

bit. Just just a little bit of little bit of spice. Mine had too much spice.

>> Mine was awesome.

>> No, no, just a little bit. Just a little bit like the >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That do Yeah. Just a

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That do Yeah. Just a

little bit >> salt bay. Salt bay.

>> Yeah. Just just a little bit of spice.

>> Sweet. The um Yeah. So today um this is gonna be I don't know maybe we'll do like a Q&A today but we have some topics. So if you guys have questions

topics. So if you guys have questions get them ready because I'm gonna answer them hopefully. Try to

them hopefully. Try to >> Yeah. You can you can ask either a

>> Yeah. You can you can ask either a general question for both of us that we could either one of us could take or if you got a specific question for either one of us, >> make sure you you know make it clear who

you're asking and put like put like um multiple heart emojis next to it or exclamation >> or maybe all caps >> or and all caps. Yeah. Yeah. And then

I'll and then I'll see it because I I'm terrible at noticing these things. But

um so questions get ready. And uh can can um our moderators pin questions?

>> No, I think you're the only one who can pin stuff. Unfortunately, I can't pin I

pin stuff. Unfortunately, I can't pin I can't pin anything either. I can I can block people though.

>> Oh, I can pin stuff. Okay. So, what I'll do is when I see a good question, I'll pin it and then I'll uh I'll Yeah, you know, hopefully that holds it there.

I'll try to answer it. Um anyway, so yeah, we're gonna do some question question and answer things today. And

but we do have some stuff to share. I

have some things to share. Um things

that I I didn't share. You know, we already shared on the um JT's mixtape some of these things. Actually, I wanted to show this video again because JT

loves it when I show certain videos um that are really interesting. And we're

gonna we're going to talk about all kinds of weird stuff, but one of the things I want to talk about is this.

Well, I have one thing. I have one thing before you get to that.

>> From the show last week when we were talking about um was it Chris Bledsoe and the idea of this star of Regulus having this certain kind of alignment

with the Sphinx in Egypt.

>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> So I I did more research about that because somebody in the questions uh somebody in the comment section asks, "I heard that it was debunked that it even lines up in March or in April." Well, it

does. It does line up, but here's the

does. It does line up, but here's the thing that it's not really anything special because it lines up with the Sphinx every year. And actually this

year it lines up twice. It lines up in April and also in October. So once a year it lines up. Now I was I was messing with chatbt and I was asking

about like is there anything particular special about this alignment and it said no. It said like in a perfect alignment

no. It said like in a perfect alignment wouldn't be for like another 2,000 years or something.

>> H a perfect alignment >> whatever whatever that is. I mean I guess it's saying like that >> this star comes up in the east and the sphinx faces like due east.

>> So it's not really anything specific like when this thing comes up >> this certain time of year. Again, it's

kind of like it's kind of like you're >> what is so specific about this star >> that means some kind of a special thing

and what how does that relate to the Sphinx?

You know what I mean? I'm we're talking about like really esoteric stuff like so what is this? We don't even really know what's significant about the Sphinx in particular and we really don't know

what's significant about this star. So

like really what is it about this alignment that we would find any kind of deeper meaning for is this prophesied in the mind calendar or something like you know

what I'm saying like don't you kind of need something else that would say oh here's >> just a line alignment doesn't mean anything >> well right you would have to at least maybe from like a biblical um

perspective you'd have to like point out something in the Bible oh when this meets this Yeah. You know,

Yeah. You know, >> blah blah blah. Something happens.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> So, like where are you getting the idea that this means anything >> other than some lady told you?

>> Yeah.

>> Somebody told you was like, "Trust me, bro. It's really important."

bro. It's really important."

>> You guys have got some really good questions in here. Um, you know, I'm going to answer some of these questions because I see some of them a lot and uh I think I want to answer all of these actually. These are really good

actually. These are really good questions you're asking. Um, I don't know how to pin them all. I don't know if you guys donate a dollar or something then it will stay pinned but hopefully I

get to them all. Um anyways the uh can uh first what is the best version of the Bible to read um the Septuagent? Um

question mark. This is a great question and JT do you want to answer first or you want me to go? I'll go.

>> Um well >> you give your opinion >> the Septuagent is actually not a complete Bible. So the Septuagent would

complete Bible. So the Septuagent would be >> the Old Testament, >> the Greek translation of the Old Testament >> which would be coming from the earliest manuscript. So I would say that

manuscript. So I would say that >> yes, I would I would encourage people to check out the Septuagent because it's likely more accurate than the typical Maseretic text. But now obviously you'd

Maseretic text. But now obviously you'd have to >> there is multiple Septuagents also.

>> Yeah. So the one that the one that I >> Lancelot >> I purchased recently was the Lexam English Septuagent. And so I'm not sure

English Septuagent. And so I'm not sure if that's the best one, but when I was doing research, they were saying that was a good one. It's kind of reads more like a maybe like an ESV translation,

but there's there's multiple translations of the Septuagent into English. So yeah, I would encourage

English. So yeah, I would encourage people to check that out. And then the New Testament you can check out. I mean,

you can read in the KJV, New King James, or ESV, whichever you really find >> to be the best one for you.

>> I I would say I read the Sir Lancelot Septuagent. Um, and I find that one

Septuagent. Um, and I find that one pretty fascinating because it maintains the word giants is like written like 32 times more I've counted than the um

other texts that you find. And so like other translations they'll translate the word giant or the word um dragon or the word into like they'll translate it to like jackal, right? Rather than say

dragon and they'll translate giant into like uh Raphimi or Raphaim or Gabborum, you know, rather than just say giant.

Okay. So, it's funny when you look at the translations, and here's my take on it, is that as you're reading all the different translations of the Bible, they will all say, you can tell like the

the NIV doesn't believe in like giants.

You can tell just by reading it. Like,

they've they'll translate the words that they'll translate dragon into like owl or jackal. Sometimes they'll make

or jackal. Sometimes they'll make they'll intentionally make words that mean other creatures or other things mean something else. And the biggest changes between all the texts that I

noticed pertain to a few different things. One, giants, demons, Jesus, and

things. One, giants, demons, Jesus, and um Nephilim stuff basically. And so like those are the changes you'll notice between all the translations.

>> So like all the translations they have a view on whether the they believe in the Nephilim or they don't. So like the ESV doesn't believe in Nephilim. It's pretty

obvious when you read it because they'll take words that that would totally be pertaining to the Nephilim and they'll change it, but it's easier to understand. So it's like it's like

understand. So it's like it's like there's a tradeoff. It's like you got to whatever is better for you to understand is better. But then you got to know that

is better. But then you got to know that like when you get to weird words or weird phrases or weird things that you don't understand, it's probably because the writers of whoever wrote that didn't agree with the Nephilim stories or the

theories or this kind of stuff. So they

mistransate things into other words.

Does that make sense? I don't if you have a view on >> Yeah. Well, I mean I know that in my

>> Yeah. Well, I mean I know that in my Septuagen it even talks about the unclean birds you're not supposed to eat and one of it mentions is the griffin.

>> Yeah, exactly. The griffin is not >> we're told it's not a real >> it's not a real animal or whatever it is but that's what's train that's what's

written in the septuagent to not eat griffins. So

griffins. So >> yeah which is it's fascinating. I mean

like and by the way the word unicorn in the Bible does not mean unicorn. Okay.

It doesn't mean that there's a horse with one horn. It actually it's unicornous. And that word unicorn means

unicornous. And that word unicorn means rhinoceros. Okay. because there's a

rhinoceros. Okay. because there's a onehorn rhinoceros. So, a unicorn is a

onehorn rhinoceros. So, a unicorn is a rhino, just a side note. But there are other mythical creatures that aren't mention that are mentioned that are potentially real that went extinct or

that they got wiped out. Um, so I just think unicorns is the only one that I've noticed that is like fantasy related that people I think misconrue, I would

say. Um, but it's a rhino. Sorry to bum

say. Um, but it's a rhino. Sorry to bum everybody out that believed in unicorns.

I apologize. I still think I still think they were probably real.

>> You think so? It's possible. I mean,

it's I mean it is they do draw them in stuff in other depictions. So, who

knows? But

>> it is.

>> Again, I never thought that that was really it's it's not an animal that's really hard to believe that a a horse had a horn.

>> That I I know it isn't too hard. I mean,

the antelopes have two horns, you know.

>> Yeah. There's lots of animals that Yeah.

I mean, I I don't know. I mean, I guess if it was a real animal that went extinct, it's like that's really not >> a narwhal's got a horn, >> right? That's that's more I honestly I

>> right? That's that's more I honestly I think the narwhal is more weird than a unicorn.

>> Oh, narwhal is definitely weird. Like

>> cuz what would you call a narwhal? Do

narwhals do they breathe air? Are they

mammals? Like whales?

>> I think so. I believe they're whales.

I'm not sure though.

>> Yeah. So yeah, if you guys haven't heard of a narwhal, it's it's like a whale with like one horn that sticks straight out of its head. It's a unicorn of the sea. They're the unicorns of of the

sea. They're the unicorns of of the whale species.

>> Yeah, it's weird. I mean, that that animal is really weird now because that's one of those ones if if somebody said this is some kind of mythological creature, you would say, "Well, yeah, I don't really believe that it's a real

thing."

thing." >> Yeah.

>> Sure enough, they exist.

>> They definitely exist. So, that's unless unless >> manities are really, too.

>> It could be a conspiracy, bro. What What

if I've never seen a narwhal. What if

they don't exist? What if they're messing with us, bro? It's science. I'm

just kidding.

>> That's true. Like it's like a panda.

It's like a fake thing.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the pandas aren't real. Um, okay. So, the uh No, so back

real. Um, okay. So, the uh No, so back to the biblical narrative. You the

difference between translations basically pertains to, like I said, giants uh creatures demons nephilim and some aspects of Jesus. And those are

the things that seem to be subtly shifted um, in every translation. and it's like the rest of it's pretty much the same, but if when it comes to those topics, the translations are just skewed a

little. And so I read what's called a

little. And so I read what's called a side by side, and I have one that's got four different translations in it. And

the side by side has literally the um NIV, the uh American Standard version.

The um NASB, I think, and I forget the I forget the other one. Anyways, the

amplified amplified amplified by the way is like the best word for word translation text, but it's a little wordy and it's hard to understand and it's hard to read. But the amplified version, the AMP, I think it's amplified

abbreviation. Um, that one is literally

abbreviation. Um, that one is literally like the best word for word and then some translations are phrase for phrase.

So, they try to get the idea and then translate it into a word that you will comprehend. And so, some translations

comprehend. And so, some translations are word for word, some are phrase for phrase. There's all kinds of different

phrase. There's all kinds of different understandings. You really have to have

understandings. You really have to have the Holy Spirit. The biggest thing that I'd say before you read a Bible is just pray, "Lord, reveal the understanding that you want to show me and have the Holy Spirit guide you before you read it. No matter what translation you read,

it. No matter what translation you read, it really doesn't matter what translation you read. If you have the Holy Spirit guiding you, there's actually a text that says, "Let no man be your teacher, for the Holy Spirit is to be your teacher." It literally says that in the Bible. And so, you're

supposed to have the Holy Spirit leading you and guiding you no matter what version you're reading. So it don't really matter like the translations any translation is good enough and then you'll come across stuff and you can check it in multiple different

translations. Always I always check the

translations. Always I always check the Septuagent. I think that one's pretty

Septuagent. I think that one's pretty fascinating. Any all of our translations

fascinating. Any all of our translations today, all the modern translations today of the Bible come from a the Maseretic text which is actually a perverted uh text by the Jews. They perverted it and

then every so King James and all of them are come from the Maseretic text.

Geneva, everything. All the all the Protestant Bibles are like that, >> which means they're all they're all bad technically to some degree.

>> Well, I would say that your New Testaments in those Bibles are >> are good >> are fine, but the Old Testament >> is definitely different. And of course, in my Lexam Septuagent,

>> you have books like Sarak, first and second Sarak, you have >> the Mcabes, you have um second, second, and third Ezra, I want to say, is in there. Oh, by the way, that's an amazing

there. Oh, by the way, that's an amazing book.

>> You got Ecclesiasticas.

You have a lot of extra books that are fascinating.

>> Yeah. That are not in the the typical cannon. And we mentioned before that

cannon. And we mentioned before that like the book of Esther in the Maseretic text versus what's in the Septuagent.

It's >> it's about three more chapters probably.

And it's more it's I I think I think it's important. It's it's big. You know

it's important. It's it's big. You know

what's interesting?

>> You know what word is not in The Septuagent.

>> What word?

>> Jew.

>> Jew.

>> It's not in there.

>> That's funny. Yeah, that's a good one.

It either says Judeian or it says Judite, I think, in there.

>> Judites. Yeah,

>> it it typically just calls them Judeans.

>> That's fascinating. Yeah,

>> something's >> something's there. Something's there.

And you know, it also will say Palestine, too. Um, which is also

Palestine, too. Um, which is also interesting because apparently that's not that's not real. But uh you know the uh Septuagent is great. The um for Old Testament translations. The New

Testament translations. The New Testament is basically we generally know the New Testament is pretty accurate.

The Old Testament is the really biggest one in question because the Jews manipulated it so that it didn't prophetically allude to Jesus's coming. So they

intentionally changed stuff in the Old Testament on purpose. And they changed some things related to demons so that you don't know how to deal with demons.

And they changed things related to Nephilim and giants so that you didn't know your history or past. And they

changed the timeline. By the way, >> so the Maseretic text, like the original Maseretic text does not have verses like that in Psalm 22 that they pierced his

hands and feet. It says something like akin to >> that lions or something like that surrounded surrounded my my hands and

feet. I something like that. And also

feet. I something like that. And also

that it mentions that when there's a prophecy in Isaiah about the virgin birth, I think it just says like a young woman >> instead of a virgin. Yeah.

>> So then later >> the the people who translated into English knew that those were corrupted translations by the Jews who denied Jesus. And so they fixed them. But I

Jesus. And so they fixed them. But I

mean like you're you're starting with a source of a text that you already know is >> is wrong in very specific very important ways and then so what else is not

accurate? You know what I mean? Like

accurate? You know what I mean? Like

like they knew better than to write that into our our modern Bibles, but they're still starting with something you already know has serious errors to it.

>> Yeah. Exactly. And that and that's that's unfortunate. Like and for

that's unfortunate. Like and for instance, I'll tell you guys right now that the um if you go off the Samaritan Penetuk, which is um an older translation of text, you go off of

Josephus's writings and you go off the Septuagent and those have the record of history recorded and there is a extra 650 years

um removed from the Bible that all the Bibles we have today, all of them. But

that's the >> more than I believe it's more than 600 years. Well, there's 650 in the

years. Well, there's 650 in the lineages. 650 listed in just the

lineages. 650 listed in just the lineages. There's in other parts.

lineages. There's in other parts.

There's more probably potentially, but um but they took away the age of people because it says in the Bible that they live, this is another one that they changed, the age of people because they want you to believe that we don't live

that long. They want this this narrative

that long. They want this this narrative to be told that we just don't live as long as we think. But when it comes to the ages between um uh Noah all the way

down to PG and uh Sarug and all the way through there where it says like their lineages basically that that whole

lineage component that is not um the uh that that spot right there is literally listed out like 650 extra years between the Tower of Babel and between the

flood, right? Missing 650. There's more

flood, right? Missing 650. There's more

in other parts >> altogether. the Maseretic versus

>> altogether. the Maseretic versus Septuagent. There's 1300 extra years in

Septuagent. There's 1300 extra years in the Septuagent versus the Maseretic text.

>> 13. Yeah. Wow.

>> Well, you're I think what you're specifically talking about is >> talking about between the flood, >> right? Right. After the flood, which I

>> right? Right. After the flood, which I said we we talked about this with I talked about with Josh on the ancient roots podcast.

>> Do you have >> the story based on Yeah. P it's

mentioned that he was the father when >> means divided.

>> Yeah. when the earth was divided or separated.

>> That's what PG means. That's what

>> So people think that that's the dispersion at Babel when the the nations were separated based on their languages being confused. But if you look at the

being confused. But if you look at the Maseretic timeline, it's estimated that that took place, Tower of Babel took place 100 to 130

years after the flood. Now, here's the here's the issue with that. If you

believe the Bible, if you believe what it says about there was only eight people remained after the deluge, they come off the ark and then so of course they're

they're repopulating the earth in a 100 years >> there would be max like a thousand people.

>> Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

>> So like the story of a tower of babel seems a lot less >> important if we're only talking about a thousand people. But in the Septuagent

thousand people. But in the Septuagent version, it would be more like 600 years after the flood, >> which and you could have had hundreds of thousands of people. like you could you

could potentially have 500,000 people >> which would make a lot more sense about them doing the stuff that they did >> which and by the way the reason why the

Jews uh affected the maseretic text and wanted to remove that extra time out of the lineage there's multiple reasons but one of the reasons is because there's that verse that says I believe no man

shall live past 120 years and this is one of my theories is that I think they were trying to manipulate society into believing that oh man's life expectancy should just be 120.

>> Well, it still says that in that same verse is there in Yeah. Genesis 6.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But what I'm saying is they tried cuz I don't think that verse is pertaining to man. I think it's pertaining to the Nephilim. That was my theory at least.

>> My theory is that it just you got a God gave them 120 years before the the dish was coming.

>> Yeah. And so so the uh but they wanted to my thought is that they wanted to like manipulate it and they want to convince you that mans have a short lifespan and that was like that's just a

them another step of them cutting those years off to manipulate your thoughts and think that that verse isn't pertaining to Nephilim but rather it's pertaining to everybody and everybody's

only got this much life expectancy but I mean we have different opinions on this >> you also have but but you also have that that corroborates the Septuagent timeline line is the antiquity of Jew

the Jews by Josephus.

>> Josephus. Yep. And the Samaritan >> penitent. He he goes along with the

>> penitent. He he goes along with the Septuagent chronology.

>> Yep. So we know that that's there's a whole lot there. Um that's pertaining to that kind of change and that kind of stuff. So anyways, I don't know what

stuff. So anyways, I don't know what question that was coming from that we even got there, but here's another one.

>> And we got another one. It says, "Would love to hear your thoughts on MelkiseDC."

MelkiseDC." >> Yes. Um, you know,

>> Yes. Um, you know, I don't know if I want to tell my thoughts on that fully yet. Actually,

you got >> you know what it says in the Septu, not in Septuagent, in the American antiquities and discoveries in the West, and I've heard this before that some people believe this was the this was the

theory that was floated in there >> that MelkiseDC >> is a title. It's not actually a name.

And MelkiseDC was actually Shem.

>> Interesting. You know, that's that's fascinating. And do you know what else

fascinating. And do you know what else is fascinating is Meltchisedc is is mentioned in um second Ezras, which is a very fascinating text. And he's

mentioned there, I believe, multiple times when I was reading it. Um I think it was second Ezras, he was mentioned in there, and I was kind of like, whoa, they talk about him in here a whole lot

more than you hear about him in the rest of the text. So, might be worth checking out. Might be.

out. Might be.

>> He's a mysterious figure, that's for sure. He's obviously mentioned in the

sure. He's obviously mentioned in the book of Hebrews. It's saying that he had no lineage, no fathers. But I think what it's really saying in in Hebrews is that it's not that he didn't have a father

and a mother.

>> And it's it's not that he didn't have a lineage, but the context in Hebrews is that, you know, Jesus is this high priest that's coming out of the line of

Melkisedc because he was the king of Salem, which became Jerusalem. And so they're tying

became Jerusalem. And so they're tying it to this territory which would have been Judah, >> you know, because Jesus said of the line of Judah.

>> And so what it the author of Hebrews likely was intending was that you had to have a Levitical line, a genealogy to

point to your ancestors going back to Aaron. But it's saying like that

Aaron. But it's saying like that MelkiseDC did not have that. But he

obviously because he predated that and Abraham tied to him and you don't tithe to the lesser person, you tithe to the greater. And so he's saying, you know,

greater. And so he's saying, you know, basically the author of Hebrews is saying like that he came before >> all them. And so this is before even the Levites were even there. And so I think

that's what it's really talking about.

But yeah, MelkiseDC is >> we might do a whole episode on that.

>> Yeah, it's a very important figure and it's very mysterious. But yeah, that's I would love to hear more about MelkiseDC, too.

>> Yeah, we might do like a whole I I'll have to like do all my digging on on MelkiseDC to even talk about that and we'll we might do a whole episode on that one. So, that's a little I'm going

that one. So, that's a little I'm going just hold I'mma hold off before I say what I'm going to say about that. Um,

somebody puts uh can you talk about everything you know about astral projection? You know what? I will tell

projection? You know what? I will tell you something very fascinating that somebody told me just recently. Um cuz I deal with this kind of stuff quite often. And one of the people I always

often. And one of the people I always wondered about astral projection if it was like a natural effect that happens or if it was somehow demonically influenced potentially. And one of the

influenced potentially. And one of the people I dealt with just recently who um deals with demons and has like you know sees them um saw one of them go in and

he also had astral projection experiences first. So, he would wake up

experiences first. So, he would wake up out of his body oftentimes, right? And

he had demonic stuff influencing him.

And he'd wake up and he'd be out of his body and he'd see his body laying on the bed, right? And uh he said he woke up

bed, right? And uh he said he woke up one time laying in his bed and there was a demon crawling up in front of him.

Okay? Okay. And a lot of people that have astral projection experiences, I'll tell you right now, everyone, almost everybody that has them, you'll hear like ringing or bells or you'll feel a

vibration in your body and a shaking and then um you pop up out. Okay? And

there's methods to popping up and out of your body as well that you can you can imagine that you're on a swing and you'll swing out of your body. You can

imagine you're on an elevator or you're pulling yourself up. And when you tell yourself, I am not my body, it can you you realize that your body and you aren't aren't one necessarily and you can separate. Now, I don't know if I'm

can separate. Now, I don't know if I'm gonna be completely honest. I don't

think it's a good thing. I don't know if it's a good thing. I think it's probably dangerous. So, I wouldn't recommend you

dangerous. So, I wouldn't recommend you doing it. Um, but especially if you

doing it. Um, but especially if you don't know how to cast out demons and you don't know the authority of Christ in the spiritual realm, if you try to go into that realm, you might get your butt kicked. And I don't know, I don't know

kicked. And I don't know, I don't know what happens. I mean maybe some people

what happens. I mean maybe some people have gotten schizophrenia because they did that and something else took over their body and they're not there anymore. So it's not wise quite quite uh

anymore. So it's not wise quite quite uh quite a dangerous spot. There is there is things in the Bible where people have left their body whether out of the body or I do not know right. Yeah about to

read that. So

read that. So >> okay go for it.

>> In 2 Corinthians 12 1-4 it says this is Paul speaking.

And he says, "I must go on boasting, though there is nothing to be gained by it. I will go on to visions and re

it. I will go on to visions and re revelations of the Lord. I know a man in Christ who 14 years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether in body or out

of body, I do not know. God knows. And I

know that this man was caught up into paradise. Whether in body or out of

paradise. Whether in body or out of body, I do not know. God knows." and he heard things that can cannot be told which man cannot utter.

>> So I mean of course >> he doesn't know. So like of course he's not saying like that if he was caught up out of his body >> that that was demonic or anything like that. So they I mean

that. So they I mean >> that would that description sounds like astral projection to me.

>> Yep. Same with the visions of Revelation. I mean like they were also

Revelation. I mean like they were also like he's caught up in some capacity and he's seeing this stuff. He's like there.

Well, you I think when you think about like the way that when >> a man of God saw a vision, >> it is kind of like that they are >> they're like meditating, they're praying, and then they're they're out of

body >> into this place.

>> So you so the vision would be different than a dream. So a dream is obviously you go to sleep and then who really knows what your consciousness is actually doing when you're when your

body is at rest like that?

>> Yeah. So, in the same way, you could a lot of people have like the sleep paralysis and they have some kind of an astral projection when they're when they're trying to sleep.

>> Yeah.

>> But yeah, it it sure seems like that the visions from like Isaiah and Ezekiel, they are they are astral projecting into heaven to see these visions.

>> And there's another verse actually where um he goes on the road. What's that one where he's on the road and he's there and then he's not there. I forget which one.

>> Oh, well uh Phillip. Philip right after he >> right after Philip baptizes the Ethiopian unic, >> it just mentions that he's he's caught away and

>> somewhere else. And it's you're like >> it's really interesting. I mean, yeah, like the way it's phrased, >> it's we're not sure if he just decided to just go there

>> but it almost seems like he just went there like right away.

>> And and there's also another instance of Elijah. So Elijah was actually with his

Elijah. So Elijah was actually with his um uh servant uh Na was it Neymar or Nahm or wait I'm getting mixed up. What

was his servant? Elijah

>> servant Nahm was uh was >> was the general of the of was he the general of the the Syrians who who he healed of leprosy but then he had the servant with him.

>> Yeah the ser that's what I'm talking about. What's I forget his servant's

about. What's I forget his servant's name. Anyways Elijah's servant goes to

name. Anyways Elijah's servant goes to Nahm or Nahor I forget. Um, and and Elijah talks to this man and about

asking him a question of God and and he he offers him a bunch of money and clothing and whatever. And then Elijah is like, "No, I don't want your stuff."

And so he leaves. Okay. And he goes away. But but Elijah's servant goes back

away. But but Elijah's servant goes back to the rich man.

>> It's Gahazi.

>> Gahazi. There it is. Gazi.

>> And it's Neymah. Neon.

>> Nea. Neon.

>> Non. Okay. So Gahazi, the servant of Elijah, goes back to non and is like, "Hey, on second thought, you know, I could I could take some of that gold and that stuff and those riches that you

were wanting to offer to Elijah. I could

take them for you." And then the and then uh Naam uh gives Gazi some of the stuff, right? And he comes back to

stuff, right? And he comes back to Elijah. And Elijah's like, "Did I did

Elijah. And Elijah's like, "Did I did you not know?" He's like, "What? The

leprosy that I cured that man on is now on you." And so so Elijah's servant ends

on you." And so so Elijah's servant ends up getting the disease that the man got cured from offering him gold because he took his gold or whatever he took his

riches. Um so the fascinating part

riches. Um so the fascinating part though that Elijah says to his servant, he goes, "Was I not there in spirit when you took it?" Like he goes, he straight up says,

>> "Oh no, Elijah says that >> Elijah says, "Was I not there in spirit?" And you're like, "What does

spirit?" And you're like, "What does that mean?" Like it's pretty it's pretty

that mean?" Like it's pretty it's pretty interesting because it seems almost like Elijah was astral projecting and followed him cuz he said I was there like I saw you. I saw what you did. And

you're like that's pretty interesting to think that he was f he like went to where he was when he did the exchange.

That's how Elijah knew because he said he was there in spirit. And so that's a I don't know. I don't know what to call that. What do you think that would be?

that. What do you think that would be?

Would you call that astral projection JT? I don't know.

JT? I don't know.

>> Um I don't know. I don't know if it's just like he >> like he knew based on what God was telling him.

>> He said he saw it, I think, is what it said.

>> Yeah. No, that's interesting. I I don't Yeah, I don't know. That's That's

definitely curious though.

>> It's very curious to me. So, I you know, here's the thing. I can't astral project. Um uh at least I've not tried

project. Um uh at least I've not tried enough to do this, so I can't give you my full instance of it. However, I've

dealt with many many people that do and have and all kinds of different experiences with it. And I will share with you that majority of them are bad.

Okay? Majority of them are bad. I only

have one friend who God takes her up out of the and when she goes to sleep, she comes up out of her body and the Lord takes her above places high up in the sky sometimes and shows her things that

is going to happen and like reveals stuff to her and it's pretty cool. She

has like cool experiences. And that's

the only person that I've heard of that's had positive astral projection experiences where the Lord takes her and then shows her prophetic things in the sky and stuff. That's pretty cool. I

don't know. Uh the most of it is witchcraft people that are practicing witchcraft that are doing this and they're doing it out of their own will and trying to control things and manipulate stuff and it ends up being very very bad for them. Um you know I've

asked the Lord to take me up out of places. I'm like, you know, I'm totally

places. I'm like, you know, I'm totally down to like go flying around the place and and be shown things. cuz I'm like, "Lord, take me. If I if I'm supposed to go to the astral realm, take me. I'm

ready. Like, I'll fight demons, bro. So,

I don't even care." Like, but I know that if you go there, I have another friend that goes to the astral realm.

He's been there many times. And he says every time he goes there, he's fighting things like the whole time. And I

actually have had I actually had three friends that I know that had they would go there when they were younger by default. They would just wake up and be

default. They would just wake up and be there. And all three of them said the

there. And all three of them said the same thing. They're they're they're good

same thing. They're they're they're good people. And I like their heart is good.

people. And I like their heart is good.

And so all of them though they said they would just be running and being chased by things that would like fight them like people like beings. Some of them said they were like shadows. Some of

them said they looked like people and they didn't know what they were but they would go to this realm and they would be constantly hunted down and chased and then attacked. What were you going to

then attacked. What were you going to say JT?

>> I was going to say I I found the verse in Acts where it talks about Philillip being >> Oh yeah, go for it and read like transported whatever.

>> Okay. So this is in Acts chapter 8 and I'm going to just start with uh 36 to give the context and it says and they were going along on along the road and they came to the water and the unic said

see here is water what what prevents me from being baptized and he commanded the chariot to stop and they both went down to the water Philip and the unic and he baptized him and when they came out out

of the water the spirit of the Lord carried Philip Philip away and the unic saw him no more and he went away rejoicing ing. But Philip found himself

rejoicing ing. But Philip found himself in Azotus Azotus and he was passed through. He preached the gospel to all

through. He preached the gospel to all the towns under that came to Cesaria.

>> So the spirit of the Lord carried him away and but Philip found himself >> at Azatus.

>> That's pretty weird.

>> What does that mean?

>> That I mean maybe he got teleported.

Like that's >> I remember when I first read that that's what I that was my conclusion. But I

guess it's it's almost like that it's what's weird. I mean the whole the story

what's weird. I mean the whole the story I mean because the context is >> they're riding along in this chariot and then they just get out of the chariot, you know? So like the way I'm

seeing it is like they're in between places, right? And so they're probably

places, right? And so they're probably far from like a town. They're going

along their way. They get out. He

baptizes the Ethiopian unic. And then

right after that he's gone because it's like the unic saw him no more. It's like hey where you he didn't

more. It's like hey where you he didn't say like where are you going he was gone >> and then it says Philip found himself in this new this other town >> and he preached when he was there.

>> Well >> pretty weird pretty weird but I mean the stuff that happens in the book of Acts >> is crazy supernatural. So many of the things the miracles in the book of Acts

are amazing.

Um, yeah, that's definitely it's definitely fascinating. Um, and I will

definitely fascinating. Um, and I will say that uh um Oh, okay. Anyways, sorry. I would say that it's it's very it's very interesting the whole astral projection

space, but don't ever attempt to go there until you can cast out demons.

That was that that would be my advice.

Don't ever attempt to go there until you start casting demons out because you'll get your butt kicked. Like you could go into that realm and get ripped to pieces. And like the thing is like we we

pieces. And like the thing is like we we just don't know what can happen to people because the people that get uh attacked don't come back to tell the story. So we don't like we don't really

story. So we don't like we don't really know what happens to them. But when they when they do go there, I do know somebody that told me about an experience where that he could look behind himself and he would see a silver cord when he would astral project. He

would be able he could look behind and see it. Um and he didn't really quite

see it. Um and he didn't really quite know what it was. It was just like he said it was like a there was like a line behind him. I said was it and he was

behind him. I said was it and he was like it's like a shiny kind of line that would go behind him. So the uh you know that is there is people that are

attached via some silver cord I guess when you're astral projecting but you don't notice it. Um the other thing that I'll tell you about astral projection that's very fascinating um one of the

people like a lot of them they'll feel vibration you'll feel a shaking. you'll

hear a ringing and then you'll pop up out of your body. Um, and you can see yourself. If you try to touch anything

yourself. If you try to touch anything when you're in the astral realm, it it will bring you back into a a lucid dream. You'll fall out of the astral

dream. You'll fall out of the astral space into like a more of a dream state.

Um, you just can't touch anything. You

can only observe. And so, you go through walls and you go through everything. But

if you try to touch anything, it don't work out. And when the demon things

work out. And when the demon things come, you can you have to fight them basically because they come and witches find you in that realm. And I know people that have been recruited by the occult in the astral realm. Like I know

people literally that's how they were found. They were found by another person

found. They were found by another person in the astral realm because usually when you go to the astral realm, you're by yourself. There's not other there's not

yourself. There's not other there's not often other people around you. Um but if you go there, the witches will find you and uh they'll kidnap you and if you don't join them, they'll throw you in a

witch prison. And witch prisons are not

witch prison. And witch prisons are not very fun. And I know somebody that I had

very fun. And I know somebody that I had to prayed for who got taken out of a witch prison. And I believe she was in

witch prison. And I believe she was in there for like 11 years. And a witch prison is something that whenever you go to sleep, you wake up in a similar or same dream over and over. And it's

usually them like killing you and then like like that's like a it's the worst thing ever, bro. When you get put in witch prison, it's like cuz they cuz you don't join their occult uh practices.

They just throw you in in this cycle where you either have to kill yourself or you get killed every night for like 11 years. This girl dealt with it. And

11 years. This girl dealt with it. And

so um the and like dude >> that reminds me of in Doctor Strange when he goes and fights Dormamu and he uses the time stone >> and it's stuck in one moment

>> and Dormamu keeps on killing Doctor Strange.

>> Oh really? That happened. Oh

fascinating. like he they go into the um I forget the dark dimension where Dharmamu is >> and so he's like this destroyer character >> and he's

>> obviously mega powerful way more powerful than Doctor Strange but Doctor Strange >> coming back >> traps him in this with the time stone where all he can do is they have to relive this one moment and so Dormama

just keeps on killing him but eventually he realizes that regardless they're going to have to replay that one moment forever.

Yeah, I do remember that scene for some reason. I don't remember this the

reason. I don't remember this the narrative behind it, but yeah, that is kind of what it's like. Witch prison.

It's like it's not a good It's not a good place.

>> Well, I mean, you think about it, >> it's Doctor Strange is a sorcerer, so he's basically a witch and he's the one who traps this other >> demonic entity in this time loop.

>> Yeah. In the witch prison. Yep.

>> Right. That's what he's doing. Well, you

know, that's even the same thing where um I forgot what they call it when in Doctor Strange where they create this alternate dimension.

>> You know what I'm saying? Where like

it's like the glass dimension where it's like they can practice their witchcraft in this place that's kind of outside of the normal sphere and outside of time.

>> Yeah, it's kind of like that. The the

other thing I will tell you about it is some of the spiritual realm is made up by your imagination. like your

imagination actually creates the spiritual realm and this is a very fascinating component of things >> kind of like um the never- ending story.

>> It it is. Yes, it is actually. It's very

much like that.

>> That's exactly what the the never- ending story is about is the fact that kids had imaginations and then the nothing is coming because >> I guess kids are getting bogged down with all the um >> maybe modern technology and stuff like

that and they're losing their imaginations. that it's that that is

imaginations. that it's that that is actually very real when it comes to the spiritual realm like because you imagine things and it becomes reality when you're dealing with demons. I'll give

you an example. Like the when I deal with schizophrenic people, they can hear the voices. They'll get so loud and they

the voices. They'll get so loud and they they're like, "Ah, I can't I can't." No.

And you're trying to talk to them. You

can't talk sometimes. You just have to stop talking, close your eyes, and imagine in the spiritual realm that you're wrapping duct tape around the heads of the demons and then like

punching them in the face or whatever.

And like you do that and then the person that's like being attacked by voices or whatever will be like what the it'll just stop and they'll be like what did you do? And like they don't realize like

you do? And like they don't realize like what you did because in your in my imagination will affect the other person's experience of reality when

they're dealing with spiritual entities.

That sounds nuts. I know that sounds crazy. That's literally how it works

crazy. That's literally how it works though. And it took me a minute to

though. And it took me a minute to realize that that was what was happening. But like when Jesus says like

happening. But like when Jesus says like as a man thinkketh so he is it it really is that way. Like I'm not even joking.

Like in the spiritual realm it's that times 10. Okay. And it says like you can

times 10. Okay. And it says like you can say unto this mountain be thou removed and be thou cast in the sea. It will

obey you. It will obey you. Like okay.

And you got to understand in the spiritual realm it's it's way way different. And the more things happen in

different. And the more things happen in the spiritual realm they are the prelude they preclude the the things of the physical in some aspect. Okay. And it's

like things of the spiritual happen and then the things of the physical happen afterwards. Like if a tree is dead in

afterwards. Like if a tree is dead in the physical realm, it's possible that something in the spiritual realm went out and like there's something killing the the life out of that tree to kill it

in the physical, but it's sucking the life out of the spirit of the tree first in the spiritual realm. I know that sounds woo wooy sounding or whatever, but that's that's how it is. Like I know

like and when you deal with demons you start to realize like whoa that's kind of like it's more real than you than you imagine because it is your imagination

and it is it's very much connected.

Okay. The spiritual realm is so connected in the same sense in the astral realm there is a spiritual connection. That's why people that are

connection. That's why people that are in the astral realm when you try to touch things you'll fall out of the astral realm into like a lucid dream.

And so will it will start to become this kind of a dream thing that you can control. Um, and there's like a bridge

control. Um, and there's like a bridge between the two. It's very, it's a very finicky sort of thing. Did you want to say something, JD?

>> Yeah. You know what? I was, it was funny. At one point, I was driving when

funny. At one point, I was driving when when we were in Vegas, I had to take a Uber and the guy was listening to some kind of a >> sounded kind of like a motivational speaker type person. And he was kind of

and this guy was talking about how like as an adult, we're really locked into our past. Our past affects our reality

our past. Our past affects our reality today. And it re it affects our forward

today. And it re it affects our forward movement. And it's saying like as a kid,

movement. And it's saying like as a kid, you really don't have a lot of memories to draw off of. So you're way more drawn by your imagination because you don't have that stuff. And

he was basically saying like it's we lose that and that's not a good thing.

And that's probably why Jesus says that >> you're not going to enter the kingdom of God unless you can enter like a child >> because because yeah, your past is affecting what you believe can be

because it's because now you're only seeing what I what I've seen affects what I can believe.

>> That's Yep. I thought that was interesting because this guy was not talking about it from a Christian perspective, but it makes sense that >> if God says something could happen and he says something is wild that you could

toss a mountain into the sea, >> well, you know, like as an adult, you'd say that's not possible.

>> But as a kid, you would say like why not?

>> Because you have no memories to draw off of saying like what is possible and what's not possible. So, I think that's really interesting because we talked a lot about in the upcoming episode of JT's mixtape that's going to be coming

out on Monday about like your belief and like how much that affects your reality >> and like what you like what >> what things you you think over yourself

and you believe that can be holding you back and what things could lead you to a belief and a faith that actually can make you a a totally different person like in Christ.

>> Oh, yep. And and I'll and I'll explain this like I have to explain this to people um that are demonically oppressed. In fact about people with

oppressed. In fact about people with schizophrenia specifically um they don't understand the authority that you have in Christ. Okay? Like a lot of people

in Christ. Okay? Like a lot of people that I'm going to tell you right now, if you don't believe in witchcraft, witchcraft can't affect you. Okay? That

I know that's like that's great. That's

great news. Okay? Because you know what it says in the Bible? says, "A curse without a cause cannot come to rest on its intended victim." Okay, that's what the Bible says. So, if a witch tries to put a curse on you, and you don't

believe in it, you don't receive it, it ain't going to affect you. That's why we have such a dichomic like polarizing thing in our society where people are like, "Oh, well, I don't believe in God and I've never had a supernatural

experience and I never will." Guess

what? You probably never will ever because you said it and you believe that. And because you believe that and

that. And because you believe that and you say it, you're creating your reality. So there's people that believe

reality. So there's people that believe they're never going to see this um this change or this this experience in their life. And it and it won't happen. It

life. And it and it won't happen. It

literally won't happen because you believe it. Your belief affects your

believe it. Your belief affects your reality more. So much so that placeos

reality more. So much so that placeos are real and that we have to do Dude, we literally have to when we test drugs, we have to do a double blind study. Do you

know what a double blind study is? It's

when the doctor doesn't know that I'm given a placebo or real drug and the patient doesn't know. Both of them don't know if they were given the real or the fake thing. Because even as a doctor, if

fake thing. Because even as a doctor, if I say give you a pill and I say this pill is going to cure your arthritis and you take it and it's just sugar, it might cure your arthritis based on what

my words speak over you. the authority

that I carry in the spirit affect the reality more than the reality does even more so like to the point where it's like this is how you get healed by the way this is how I heal people all the

time and I deal with this kind of stuff because I understand this principle and this is what the Lord Jesus Christ has given us that's why he said all authority on heaven and on earth has

been given unto you therefore now go you've been given all authority in heaven and on earth the Bible says says you've already been given it. It's

already yours. So if you wish to receive that authority, it's yours. And it's

that simple. It's so simple that it's like it preludes people though because they they get so caught up in this like convoluted idea. But oh, but I've sinned

convoluted idea. But oh, but I've sinned and I'm bad and I'm a terrible person.

So that's why I'm suffering. Well, guess

what? I'm going to tell you right now.

You are free from the law of sin and death. What does that mean? The law of

death. What does that mean? The law of sin, it means sin and consequences. So

it means if you make a mistake and something bad befalls you, you don't have to suffer the consequence anymore because you're free from the law of sin and death. That's Old Testament. And

and death. That's Old Testament. And

that's what the demons are trying to put on people today. So if you're struggling with demonic oppression, it's because the demons are trying to trick you. They

want to circumvent you into believing into believing that that you have a curse on you. So there's a lot of deliverance ministers that go out there, they're like, "Oh, brother, you did this. You got a demon. You did this. You

this. You got a demon. You did this. You

got a curse. You did this, bro. Bull

crap. That is lies. That is lies. That

is a demonic spirit speaking through those people trying to convince you that demon is more powerful than he is. Demon

wants you to think he's more powerful.

That's what the demons want. They want

you to think that they have authority over your life. Because if you think that, you believe it, you come out of agreement with what Christ has told you, which is freedom. There is no more condemnation. Therefore, there is no

condemnation. Therefore, there is no more condemnation in Christ. It says

that if you believe that there is condemnation in Christ, guess what?

Demon's got power over you. And then the demon exercises that power over you. And

then the demon tricks you into believing in the demon more. And when you believe in demon more, guess what? Demon's got

authority now. And now you given it to him. Your reality is created by your

him. Your reality is created by your perspective and your belief. I don't

know if you followed that JD, but >> No, I agree. I like I said, I I do know that we that's what we were talking about like coming into agreement with like curses upon yourself.

>> Yeah. Curse without a cause cannot rest on its intended victim.

>> Yeah. So I mean Yeah. So the opposite is also true is that >> if you believe that God has got a purpose for you and he he's going to do mighty things through you then you will.

>> Yep.

>> That's kind of like it's funny because it's like a lot of these things >> are not even necessarily isolated to like our Christian faith. No,

>> it's like even like the idea that that there's >> there's stories upon stories of men who just did things when people told them they couldn't but they believed they could and then they did. So there's that

famous quote from like Henry Ford that says whether you believe you can or you can't, you're right.

>> Yeah, there you go. That's

>> I mean it's a simplified way of just saying it. It's like that

saying it. It's like that >> some people are goal driven and nothing's going to stop them from achieving that goal. And generally they do. I said, 'I remember I read a book um

do. I said, 'I remember I read a book um when I was really into sports and it was called Elite Minds and it was about athletes and specifically it's like that

why do certain athletes who are like you you'd say like the best high school athletes in the whole country like how come some of them become proathletes how

how come some some of them become elite Olympic athletes that win gold medals and some of them become nothing once they get to college and it was basically the idea A that a certain person

believed that they were going to win a gold medal one day and they worked like they were going to win that gold medal and then they did.

>> They worked like they were going to win the Super Bowl one day as the MVP and the star quarterback and they did it versus a an athlete that was equally

talented to them, maybe even more so that never made it past they they never even made an impact on their college team.

So there's something between here and there's something in here that limited that one person versus the other person that went on to achieve all the things.

And so there there's obviously a study for that and I'm sure like you said you could apply that to to anything.

>> Yeah.

>> About like where you set your goals and typically as as people we set easily achievable goals because we think we can

do that. And of course we do it. But if

do that. And of course we do it. But if

you set it higher then you would probably achieve that too.

>> Yep. Yep. It's so true. It's so true.

It's literally what you believe you receive. And it says the the mouth, it

receive. And it says the the mouth, it says, is a rudder that steers the course of an entire ship. Out of your mouth, you will be justified and and by your words you will be condemned. It

literally says that you'll be justified and condemned by your words. So like you you have to understand like your thoughts and your words and your reality is is actually or is your thoughts and

your words are making up your reality.

Your your your perspective of yourself.

You have to see yourself as a as a king's the son of a king. like because

that's what Jesus said you are and you have to see that and that effect that thought process really genuinely affects your reality. Uh,

your reality. Uh, >> yeah, it's funny. We're just we're just talking about this a shameless plug. The

After the Afterglow podcast is coming up after this, and we talked a little bit about that, but I also talked about this with John Pounders. I just recorded an episode with him yesterday and we were

kind of talking about like where our faith journeys have gone and like what we were able to accomplish, the things that we never really even saw ourselves doing. And I go back to my story about

doing. And I go back to my story about when I had that demonic encounter in my room. And when I told my brother about

room. And when I told my brother about it, he told a friend and his friend said, "Oh, it sounds like the enemy is worried that that God is raising up a

warrior for Christ." And I remember at the time I was I I never considered that I could do anything like that.

And then but I remember when I was told that I did there was that glimmer of belief in like oh me could I do something special for the kingdom and

then you know sure enough like God eventually opens all these doors that I can do this now and and speak to thousands and hundreds of thousands even millions of people on occasion and then

you hear all the testimonies about people that that I've reached you know by the Holy Spirit by the grace of God.

But if I didn't if if I didn't get that word that helped me believe it, like would I be here today?

>> Yeah.

>> The answer is no.

>> I don't think so. I mean, it could have came from a different way. But I mean, it had if I didn't accept what he was saying like then then I don't think it would have happened.

>> Yep. And that's that's part of prophesying, guys. And that's speaking.

prophesying, guys. And that's speaking.

To prophesy is to speak. It doesn't

matter what words come out of your mouth. And that's a very unique thing

mouth. And that's a very unique thing characteristic given by God to us as humanity. That's why none of the other

humanity. That's why none of the other animals speak. And then when they did

animals speak. And then when they did speak previously, like the snake spoke, it was in his head. It was they spoke through the mind. I don't think they spoke with words. Um

>> the donkey spoke with words though.

>> Yeah, that that was a unique situation there. But for sure,

there. But for sure, >> I think they're all unique situations.

>> That you know, there's one thing I'm going to play this video, which we played on the on the other show, too.

>> We should get to a few questions. Let me

let me answer this one very quickly because this is a fast one. It says when was Mcabes written between Malachi and the New Testament. So historically

Mcabes was written I think they say like right around like 190 BC. So like right in the middle. So I think the important part about that is that what people most people don't know the Old Testament ends

and there's a five or there's a 400year gap between the book of Malachi and the the Gospel of Matthew.

That's That's wild, right?

>> Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty big gap. I want to play this video though

gap. I want to play this video though because it's so good. It does. We We

play it on the show too um on JT's mixtape, but it's it's really so good.

>> Researchers out of Stanford took this one guy's terrible burning pain in his arm from a crush injury from a 7 out of 10 to a three out of a 10 simply by telling him that they put a powerful

pain reliever in his IV drip. In

reality, there was no pain reliever.

Brain scans of his brain even reflected that indeed he must be feeling dramatically less pain even though the pain reliever was all in his mind.

>> Significantly less activity in the brain and all of the areas involved with the processing and perception of pain.

>> The placebo effect is really widespread.

Studies on fake sugar pills, placeos, have found that fake pills can make people more drowsy or stimulated. Fake

placebo injections provide relief for Parkinson's, but the placebo injection that they say is more expensive works even better. Fake placebo pills even

even better. Fake placebo pills even provide relief in irritable bowel syndrome, even if the people are straight up told it's a placebo. In

depression drug trials, about 35 to 40% of patients improve on placebo alone.

Even fake knee surgeries provide lasting relief. There's even placebo sleep. In

relief. There's even placebo sleep. In

this one study, researchers asked people about how they felt their sleep quality was the night before. Then they ran some tests using a bogus machine that the researchers claimed could accurately tell how good their sleep quality was.

This was a lie. Then they did some cognitive tests. How good the people

cognitive tests. How good the people said their sleep was didn't even matter.

Only the fake test results linked with cognitive performance. The people who

cognitive performance. The people who were just told that they had really high sleep quality did better on the cognitive tests. And the people who were

cognitive tests. And the people who were told that they had bad sleep quality did worse on the cognitive tests. Their

actual reports of sleep quality didn't matter.

That right there I think is so fascinating.

>> Um just because it's like you see it and it's like dude even the science world sees it to the point where they have to give you placeos to test drugs if they are even valid.

>> Um you know that's that right there is it's it explains so much. It's so

fascinating but we talk about it more.

>> Okay here's a question Brian. This is a good one for both of us. Where do we get a It's Demons Bro t-shirt and also a Jesus said there'll be haters one first. You want to take the first one?

first. You want to take the first one?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, the Jesus said there'll be haters shirt is on JT's website. So, you just got to go to JT

website. So, you just got to go to JT followsJC. Wait, what is it? Is it?

followsJC. Wait, what is it? Is it?

>> Yeah. JTF follows JC.com and you can just click on the shop button and you can see that there. Actually, I was just thinking about this, Brian. I need to get some some alternate t-shirts. I know

we had one we had one >> that was maybe a tease for a moon like a fake moonlanding shirt.

>> Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> We need I think we need to make that one next. And so it's Demons, bro. You go to

next. And so it's Demons, bro. You go to demon erasers.com and you can get it's Demons Bro.

>> And my website has been hacked slightly and they're disabling the shop button.

The only shop button is the only thing you can click right now. If you

doubleclick on the the Mr. the URLs, they'll actually work. I have to fix my website now.

>> You know what you should do, Ryan? You

should put a You should put a link in the description for the links to get t-shirts.

>> Okay.

>> On this episode so they can >> Yeah. And I And I modified the It's

>> Yeah. And I And I modified the It's Demons brochure because some of you guys said that there was like a 666 in it.

Did you know that?

>> They said there's like a a six. There's

like a six from the D. Like right there.

They said that's a six. Anyways, I

modified it and I cut the line off of it so it doesn't do that for you guys anymore. So in the future I'll update it

anymore. So in the future I'll update it too, but whatever. Um the uh so yeah that it's it's it's demons, bro. It just

go to the website and uh it's legit. The

um so yeah, one of the other things you guys put um if you hear demons speak but also hear the Holy Spirit, does that mean you have a demon? No. Um what I'm

going to explain having a demon means everybody's got demons, bro. They're

like cockroaches. They're everywhere.

Okay. Well, we're not we're not we're not possessed by them, but demons can be >> influencing your thoughts or talking.

>> They can they can definitely be in your sphere of influence.

>> Yep. And they're around everybody.

They're like cockroaches. Do you have a cockroach that's walking around you?

Does that mean you have a demon? No.

That doesn't mean you have a demon. Just

because there's a demon that like you might walk by an advertisement, okay, and see a woman that's like half naked and all a sudden you get like a lustful thought pops into your ear. That's a

demon, bro. That's literally demons.

Like they're they'll speak. They'll

follow you around. One of the guys I know was he said he was walking around.

One of my friends just shared this with me. He said he would walk around and he

me. He said he would walk around and he and he actually saw them. And he said it looked like a horde of little men, little spidery looking spidermen. And he

said they like they were walking around and they would jump on his shoulder and whisper thoughts in his head. This guy

had dealt with schizophrenia. And my

friend was just explaining this to me.

And he said he could hear it like speaking in his ear. Um, and like and then it would jump down and then another one would jump up and speak in his ear and it was like they were following him around talking to him. Okay, but you can

have the Holy Spirit and still have demons trying to talk to you. I mean,

you have it all the time. Everybody

deals with it all the time. It's not a big deal that demons are demons are demoning. Okay, they're going to just be

demoning. Okay, they're going to just be they're annoying and they're trying to get you to fail, trying to get you to fall, trying to get you into get you to give into things that they can take control of your body and feel something

through you. Like, they don't they're

through you. Like, they don't they're they're dumb. Don't even give them mind.

they're dumb. Don't even give them mind.

Just ignore them and you That's why it says resist the devil and he will flee.

If you resist them, they'll go away. If

you give in to them, eventually they keep talking to you and others follow.

Okay. Oh, by the way, one of the things I didn't finish about the astral projection thing that this other guy that sees them, he woke up and he told me and he saw that the enemy that he saw the black shadow thing come up crawl in

front of him and then he said it went into his mouth and then he had an astral projection experience. He said it

projection experience. He said it started the ringing or whether the shaking and he popped up out of his body. So the demon went into his mouth

body. So the demon went into his mouth and then he come came up out of his body. Now I don't know if that's the

body. Now I don't know if that's the situation in everybody that does astral projection or that was just his situation. Fascinating either way. I

situation. Fascinating either way. I

deal with a lot of people that deal with this kind of stuff and I could go on for years and years and years probably talking about astral projection stuff that I've experienced, but we won't

we'll we'll leave it there for now. Um

okay. Uh uh let's see.

What are your thoughts on the Mongols?

Uh, I'm gonna wait and answer that one.

Maybe we'll do that in another video.

>> Well, the Mongols might be the way that they hide Tartaria.

>> That's a good answer.

>> The Tartars because >> that's what modern historians would say that that's really that's our modern name for >> Tartarians. But tartarians again like

>> Tartarians. But tartarians again like probably when we read the the American antiquities and discoveries in the west >> it mentions that

>> in America there was every complexion of skin color represented as there was in Asia. So in Asia, when you have that

Asia. So in Asia, when you have that idea in your mind about what a Mongol looked like, you're probably picturing some kind of a I don't know Chinese

looking person kind of like what how Genghask Khan is predict uh depicted.

But Genghaskhan is said to have red hair. So how many Chinese people have

hair. So how many Chinese people have you seen with red hair? I don't think he was I don't think he was he's not what you'd expect an a an Asian person to look like. I think he was probably a

look like. I think he was probably a white dude.

Yeah. Well, the interestingly I think that the there is a depiction of him where he does look white actually. The

>> Yeah, exactly. He had red I mean I was saying like how many other people have red hair?

>> Yeah. Besides secondarily there there's actually Khan uh Gangaskhan took over a lot of areas they say and that's why he's called the great Khan and that's

why it's American, African.

uh you know they're they're that word Khan means they took over that region essentially.

>> Well Khan means king.

>> Yeah.

>> Genghask Genghaskhan is not even a name.

It's a title. It's like saying great king.

>> Yeah. And so there's there's this theory though that that it's like that that he moved to certain areas. And it's like and the great con is referenced in the book of and antiquities that we were talking about as well as some other

texts that I've read where they talk about the great Khan who is um you know this this person which is a Mongol which the Mongol is where you get the word

mongrel which means like muted or mut mixed right and then mongle also um is potentially magog and I know that that's

like a an interesting there's such an interesting connection there because It's uh Magog was the original uh it was like obviously they're the Jew people but um when you go into it further

they're the Cyians and you realize that they >> mixed with the [ __ ] and I think maybe that could that could all tie together what you're saying is that >> like if Mongol is associated with

Mongrel which is like a mixed people.

>> Yes.

>> Well then that's what I'm saying is like that they were not just one ethnicity.

It was like lots of them. Lots of

different peoples.

>> Exactly. And then also um Cuckoo Khan and Quetzel Amaru. Okay, but he's called Cuku Khan. Again, Khan is the name of

Cuku Khan. Again, Khan is the name of the the feathered serpent, the plume serpent, the dragon. Okay, he's called Cuck, but again, it's that word Khan.

And you'll see that Khan ending showing up in multiple languages and multiple words and multiple myths and stories of different names of different beings. And

so this con word is a very I might have to do a whole episode actually on con.

We'll probably do another episode. It's

definitely going to be >> talking about the Great Wall. Great wall

of China again.

>> Yeah, the Great Wall of China, which is which is, by the way, >> it's not Chinese.

>> It's not Chinese. The the turrets are pointed inward and it's literally the it's called the the ramp part of Gog and Magog. So, I mean, that's what it says

Magog. So, I mean, that's what it says in old text. So, pretty interesting. Um,

what about the Geneva Bible? I mean, we kind of talked about the Bible stuff already but >> the Geneva Bible again, it it still falls into the camp of its use. The Old

Testament in the Geneva Bible is based off the Maseretic text, >> which we would say is not as good or accurate as the Septuagent.

>> Yeah, exactly.

>> So, you have to do a little extra work.

you get yourself a >> Septuagent >> and then you read whatever flavor of the New Testament you'd like, but >> you probably want to make sure it's based on the New Testament is based on like the the translation comes from like

I want to say it's called the Texas Receptus, which is the most accurate uh manuscripts for the New Testament.

>> Yeah. And so, let's see here. What about

um why does >> You know, one thing I want to ask you about, Brian, um my wife and I were talking about this. Somebody was forgot who it was. Oh, maybe I was doing a an

episode with Guy Anderson and he was referencing some kind of a maybe kind of a Gnostic person >> and they were talking about the idea of astral projection and then there's these

these like soul ties that keep your your body tethered to your spirit and your body tethered together.

>> And I started to think about that. Isn't

the belief in the Cababala that that the reason they wear the red string is because it is a soul tie. It's something

that keeps your your spirit and your body together. It's kind of like it

body together. It's kind of like it comes from the story of Tamar when you know Judah impregnates Tamar which it was his was his daughter-in-law

>> and then they have twins and it's Zara and Perez and Zara starts to come out first and they put a red bracelet around

his his wrist and then eventually Perez comes out first.

>> Right. But but yeah, it comes from that that red bracelet. the rest bracelet.

Even I want to say what was that movie with um Jason Mimoa?

>> It was about the some kind of a dream movie >> and they would always show like this red string that was tethered. It was like a it was like a tether to your body, the natural body.

>> Have you ever heard that? Like the soul tie stuff?

>> No, not really. Not not too much.

>> Okay. If you guys in the chat have you heard of that, you guys let me know.

>> Yeah. Um the um you guys have so many uh other questions that are good. I don't

know how I missed some of them, but I missed some of them. The um let me see.

There was another one I wanted to answer. Was there one that you saw that

answer. Was there one that you saw that was worthy of answering?

>> Um I should bring up >> there was a I'm trying to scroll down.

>> Um the uh Oh, thanks for donations, everybody.

>> Is remote viewing the same thing as astral projecting?

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, I'll tell you right now. So remote viewing, yes it is. But

now. So remote viewing, yes it is. But

secondarily, um remote viewing and astral projection are are one and the same. But people that get sleep

same. But people that get sleep paralysis, that's the beginning stages of astral projection, just so you guys know. Sleep paralysis, which terrifying

know. Sleep paralysis, which terrifying experience. I've had that several times.

experience. I've had that several times.

Um and uh man, that is that is a horrible experience. Like literally that

horrible experience. Like literally that the getting woken up completely frozen.

And the reason why you feel that way is because you're not in you're frozen and you're like literally like trying to think that you're tethered to your body, but your spirit is woken up, but your

body hasn't fully woken up yet. So, it's

like a it's like a disconnect that's happening there. Um, and so that's

happening there. Um, and so that's that's what's going on with um astral projection and uh sleep paralysis. But

yeah, remote viewing is a form of astral projection where you can control it, leave your body and go and explore and look at different things and go to different places. Um, and so that is the

different places. Um, and so that is the same thing only it's a form of witchcraft which this is what a lot of witches do. And what about the plume

witches do. And what about the plume serpent in Americas? We kind of answered that a little bit I think.

>> Here's a question. It says Jesus's Lord asks, >> "What are your thoughts on the most of the prophets Jeremiah, Amos, Oadiah, etc. being written before Babylon

destroyed Solomon's temple. Were these

about that destruction or 70 AD? Well,

I want to say that Jeremiah is definitely about that. Amos is about the captivity that the Assyrians are going to do to the people of Israel. So like,

you know, Israel gets taken into captivity first. Now, I'm not famili I

captivity first. Now, I'm not famili I can't off the top of my head, I can't really remember what Obadai is about, but yeah, that's important. And me and Josh have talked about that when you actually look at like the lineages the

the pro the books of the prophets in the maseretic text and I'm not even sure I'm not sure I'm not positive. I think that they're in better order in the Septuagent but yes the the prophets are

out of order in relation to themselves.

>> They're all out of order >> in in in like in the modern modern Bibles. They did that on purpose to try

Bibles. They did that on purpose to try to con misconstrue your understanding of of what Israel is today. Like that's

what it seems like because a lot of people be like, "Oh, well that that battle happened. That battle hasn't

battle happened. That battle hasn't happened yet." Oh, yeah. Yeah. Didn't

happened yet." Oh, yeah. Yeah. Didn't

didn't happen. That's that's the one coming to happen.

>> Like, >> Right. Right. Yeah. So, yeah. So like

>> Right. Right. Yeah. So, yeah. So like

Amos for instance, it's very easy to to point out that Amos was before should have been before Isaiah and Isaiah is before before Jeremiah. So it's well before the

before Jeremiah. So it's well before the captivity. So because Amos is the father

captivity. So because Amos is the father of Isaiah, but if you look at a regular Bible, you're going to you're going to find out that Amos is like well after it's toward

the end of the end of the Old Testament.

Yeah. And Amos is prophesying to the people of Israel, not Judah, who are about to be destroyed and taken into captivity by what is it? Salamazar,

something like that. The the king of Assyria. Yeah, something like that.

Assyria. Yeah, something like that.

Now, another question. Is it possible the northern lights that we all see is the camp of the saints moving?

I would say, well, JT, you give your opinion. I'll give my opinion. Well, I

opinion. I'll give my opinion. Well, I

remember we we first had our the very first Little Season podcast we ever had, we had with Vitali, Alpha Talks, and it was his opinion, and

I know the opinion of a lot of people that the colors of the northern lights seem to resemble the colors surrounding God's throne as described in the book of

Revelation.

>> So, it definitely could come from something like that. It is interesting to >> And they're northern Right. Yeah. They're the northern

Right. Yeah. They're the northern lights. And it is interesting to think

lights. And it is interesting to think like that, you know, my love for trying to find like the little clues in in fiction and movies. You have like the

story about the Wizard of Oz and you have the emerald emerald city.

>> So Oz is like this place that's over the rainbow and then there's this emerald city there. And so like is that what

city there. And so like is that what like heaven is that is that describing heaven? And that that's the reflection

heaven? And that that's the reflection here that we can see on Earth at times.

>> Yeah. The um the uh I I mean suppose I just checked the southern lights also exist apparently.

Um so um that's like apparently a thing over Australia also supposedly. So I

don't know. I mean

>> I've never heard of the Southern Lights.

says, "Yes, southern lights Aurora Australia's absolutely exist in the southern hemisphere uh uh counterpart to the northern lights Aurora Borealis. Uh they

are caused by solar particle colliding of the Earth's magnetic field supposedly creating vibrant ribbons of green, pink, and purple lights. Uh often best viewed from Antarctica,

uh Tes Tania, and New Zealand." Um so apparently that's a thing, but I don't know. I mean, I think it's definitely

know. I mean, I think it's definitely could be something. I mean, I think it could definitely be Guts Throne. I think

it could be something like that. I mean,

it's possible. Um, and it's pretty interesting. The other thing you put, is

interesting. The other thing you put, is it um question? Is it possible that the hill that the telepathy

tape kids report meeting on is uh what's the rest of the question? uh uh meeting on is the astral plane is a place on

earth in front of the camp of the saints, you know. Um I don't know, but the telepathy tapes, I heard about it and I didn't see that episode where they talked about it. I heard that they

talked about that in the telepathy tapes. I'm going to have to rewatch it

tapes. I'm going to have to rewatch it and get my perspective on it a little bit more clear before I fully answer that question. But I will tell you that

that question. But I will tell you that it's it is fascinating that those kids that I did hear about them saying that they meet each other in a realm. That

realm that they're meeting in is quite possibly the astral realm. I mean there is I know stories of people that have met people in the astral realm and then supposedly found them and met up with

them. So like apparently you can meet

them. So like apparently you can meet people in that astral realm to some degree and make friends with people. You

also can get thrown into witch prison and who other like who know terrible things happen.

>> It's funny that That sounds similar to that story written by Stephen King called The Dark Tower. So they came out with a movie I don't know like five 10

years ago. I'm not exactly sure when it

years ago. I'm not exactly sure when it came out. And in that book and in that

came out. And in that book and in that movie there's this kind of alternate dimension where where there's this dark tower and the dark tower is preventing

all the demons from infecting like the natural world. And so when the kid who's

natural world. And so when the kid who's special there goes to this other realm that's there >> then yeah like that's where like the bad

people are trying to use kids and through trauma to break down the dark tower >> really that's what this >> that's what's happened in that story >> that is so fascinating

>> yeah and the dark and the dark tower of course when you think about it it's like it's >> it's very reminiscent of the rupus >> negra >> right it looks like that. And of course,

I even said like we I did a a breakdown of the Lego movie with Paul >> and when you see the way that >> you know, President Business's big tower, giant tower, it's this big black tower.

>> It's surrounded by this whirlpool and everything. It's got like a bottomless

everything. It's got like a bottomless pit below it.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah. It's it's all this it's all the same stuff, I think.

>> Yeah. And somebody mentioned actually just now the hexagon shaped on Saturn.

Uh what's the connection to the star of RemFam? That's okay. This is

RemFam? That's okay. This is

fascinating. I'm going to share this, too. Um, but like the uh the the hexagon

too. Um, but like the uh the the hexagon thing and all of that black cube like the black cube of Saturn, you see the the the miz uh the teflon that the people the little Jews wear the black

cube on their head. All of that is connected. Okay? And it's all connected

connected. Okay? And it's all connected via the um the the this sort of well, think about this. It's called the Cabba.

That that that cube that the Muslims circle around. It's called the Cabba.

circle around. It's called the Cabba.

And then it's called the Cabba that the Jews like listen to. Okay.

Allah put Cabba and Allah together. The

Cabba Allah. Like that's literally it's all tethered to one another. And the

funny thing is in that black cube they used to worship the god Hubal or Hubble.

The Hubble spacecraft. Hubble. Yeah.

Hubble is the name of the god that they worshiped in that black cube of Saturn.

>> Of course, all the NASA stuff is related to like pagan deities, >> bro. But I didn't realize Hubble was

>> bro. But I didn't realize Hubble was like I didn't know that Hubble was until >> I want to say that Hubble was a man though right?

>> Yeah, Hubble was a man. It's supposedly

his last name. And he was like a rich dude and and his his rich dad his friend's rich dad built him this his first astronomer space that he hung out

in or whatever his observatory and it's like so he wasn't and he wasn't Jewish supposedly supposedly but um you know Hubal with the last name Hubal like

that's it's Hubble bro. It's that's I don't know it just >> well you know the thing is so they where people get the idea that this cube is connected with Saturn at least today

would be that there's this hexagon on the top of Saturn >> now >> and it looks like a 3D cube out of >> yeah what a hexagon is is a like you can obviously you could draw in the lines

and it would be like a three-dimensional cube. Now, the really interesting part

cube. Now, the really interesting part about that whole idea is that for one, I believe that the pictures of Saturn the way we've seen them like >> in books and on the internet, they're all fake.

>> So, but >> I've seen it. I have seen Saturn in >> No, you can see I've seen I've seen Saturn like especially like a guy like David Shane, he's got amazing telescopes, but you could never see

that. You could never see the top of it

that. You could never see the top of it like that. You could never see with such

like that. You could never see with such clarity the way they show them and the images from NASA. So, let's just say that there is a hexagon on the top of it. How do the ancient peoples know

it. How do the ancient peoples know about that?

>> That Yeah. How would they know for sure?

>> Like, how would they know what's on the top of that? Because you got to have like a super high powered telescope and you see you see Saturn looks yellow and you can see the giant ring around it.

So, like that's like that's real.

>> But like how do they know what's on top of it? Now, there's there's so many

of it? Now, there's there's so many probably more esoteric connections of the cube in Saturn, but I do think it's interesting and it's funny. I was just talking about this John Pounders that

like in the Trans Transformers movie, you have, you know, you have Megatron falls from space, right? The heavens

comes down >> and Megatron sounds a lot like like Medatron >> and Medatron is associated with this cube, >> right? And then so it gets really

>> right? And then so it gets really interesting for me because like I've done I did so much studying into like the the Hoover Dam. You have those angels that are sitting on the memorial and they're sitting on these black cubes.

>> Mhm.

>> And then so that there even like this on the memorial plaque there's like this, you know, the creepy inscription about they died to make the desert bloom and this guy's got his hands raised up and

there's like there's like lightning and grain above his head.

>> Well, Saturn was associated with agriculture. So like they pray to him to

agriculture. So like they pray to him to make their crops grow, like make the desert bloom.

>> So I think it's interesting. Yeah. That

connection, especially in like in the Transformers movie, they take Megatron and they put him under the Hoover Dam.

And then there's a this connection between Megatron and what they call the All Spark. And the All Spark is this

All Spark. And the All Spark is this giant space cube >> that has the ability to create and to destroy.

So I mean it's >> well and then >> where does it all like where does this idea come from? But yeah but mega medatron was associated with this this threedimensional ge you know sacred

geome g sacred geometry that was about creation.

>> Yep. And what did it bloom into? It

bloomed into Vegas which is this pill of debauchery you know. So it's like it's like is that and that creates destruction. So it actually does have

destruction. So it actually does have the ability to create life and then that life creates destruction. So

>> it's sort of similar to the idea that like even like uh the god Shiva >> Shiva was about destruction but it was also about creation. It's kind of like a

that's that that belief is I think it's a twist on like the real the truth >> because obviously even in the cycles of like time in the world we like in our

seasons you have destruction which basically be like synonymous with death and winter >> and then you have right after winter is spring and you have like a rebirth.

>> But these people that are the cultists they believe in that idea of like the phoenix. The Phoenix is a willing

phoenix. The Phoenix is a willing sacrifice to Apollo >> and then it's reborn.

>> Yeah, >> there's all that I mean it's a lot there and it's like I I don't know I don't have all the pieces put together but there's >> we're putting we're we're getting them together but and I will tell you not

only Megatron and Medatron is also Meta and it's the same demon entity that controls the digital space. It's the

demon is Metatron and he's the demon of Meta and that's why it's called the Metaverse. Okay. It's literally from

Metaverse. Okay. It's literally from Metatron and it's that's why it's called that. Okay. And so anytime you see the

that. Okay. And so anytime you see the word meta on something or meta whatever or meta even I even go as far as I think metacin is actually a derivative of

meta. Um but that's just my weird you

meta. Um but that's just my weird you know word association that people don't agree with all the time. Anyways the uh I think it's meta sin. That's literally

your sin and it's meta. Anyways, but

either way, the uh Meta Meta is uh a connection that you'll find Metatron the and then the movie Tron, right? So, the

Tron world, which is the digital world, is also an aspect of Metatron. Okay,

that's that's what that is. Meta and

Tron. It's the digital aspect.

>> Lots of cubes and Tron.

>> Yeah, lots of cubes and Tron for sure.

So, like if you don't if you don't recognize it that it is a cube, there is there it's right in front of your face, bro. like Medatron, Megatron, it's all

bro. like Medatron, Megatron, it's all that that angel demon over the digital space that has control of authority. And

what is Bigfoot? He's a Nephilim. I

think I have a whole episode about Bigfoot.

>> Actually, it's funny that the questions you guys are asking. We did do a whole segment on Bigfoot again. Bigfoot and

Portals in the next episode of JT's Mixtape available on Patreon right now, but it it will be available for >> YouTube on Monday.

>> Yeah, we're I guess we're on the nose with uh we're you know >> we're tapping right into it, right?

>> Okay. Somebody says,

>> "What happened to the plume serpent in America?" He disappeared. It says he

America?" He disappeared. It says he came on the stars, then he left on the stars. But the reality is he runs the

stars. But the reality is he runs the stars. He runs Hollywood. He runs

stars. He runs Hollywood. He runs

everything. So the plume serpent Yeah. I

don't know. He's right there. United

States snakes of America, right, Brian?

>> Exactly.

>> Gonna make a documentary about that one time.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Maybe one day.

>> We Yeah, we still might. Yeah, for sure.

>> Um Filman says, "What do you think about Chris Bledso's prediction regarding the coming of Passover Sunday?" Go check out last week's episode of the Demon Racers podcast. We talked

podcast. We talked >> The whole podcast was devoted to that.

>> Yep. our whole podcast was talking about it and uh the nonsensical thing, but you know, people apparently are saying that there's going to be a big change happen.

So, the government might uh pull a try to pull their final little trick. I

mean, they realize how much control they have over the people, you know, and they're losing it. So, this might be their little opportunity to be like, "Dude, we got to do the we got to do the alien reveal now, man. We have no we have no choice. People are too many

people are waking up to it." But

apparently, what is what's his name?

Said it was fake. uh or said the aliens are demons. What was that? JD Vance.

are demons. What was that? JD Vance.

>> Oh, JD Vance. Oh, you know what we should talk about for one second? I know

this is not a question. Did you see that JD Vance came out and he was talking about >> people wearing um you know like um like these unaliviver bombers, you know, come in wearing these vest strap bombs to

them.

>> Yeah. And he says like, you know, you go into like a market and kill, you know, tens and 20s of people with the, you know, by igniting this bomb vesting

thing.

>> But but now he's talking about you have uh nuclear suicide bomber vests.

>> Oh, it really it went up to that level now.

>> Did you Did you hear him talking about that?

>> No, I didn't know that. It's gone.

>> I'll find the clip.

>> So, it wasn't scary enough to be bombed.

Now it's got to be nuclear.

Oh wow.

>> Let me see. I'll I'll find it.

>> The nuclear ones. Wow. This is amazing.

I didn't even know this.

Let me see.

>> A fake moon landing shirt would be amazing. The the the audience says,

amazing. The the the audience says, "Okay, we got you. We got you."

>> Okay, I got a free >> like this is this is the dumbest crap.

Okay, let me let me play this clip.

JT wears a large. They want to know what size shirt you wear. I think it's important people know options for what?

And it's options. When I say options, I think it's important the American people know options for what? And it's options to ensure that Iran never has a nuclear weapon. You talk about people who walk

weapon. You talk about people who walk into a crowded supermarket and have a vest on and they blow up the vest and a couple of people get killed and that's a terrible tragedy. What happens when on

terrible tragedy. What happens when on the vest is not something that can kill a couple of people but can kill many many tens of thousands of people. That

is the most important American nationality objective exists for any administration at any time is you don't want the worst people in the world to have a nuclear weapon. That's why the president is doing this. That's why the

president cares so much about >> Oh my gosh.

>> When I say op >> is this a joke? Is this reality, bro?

Are we in reality? Like what?

They think they think you're stupid, people. They think you're a complete

people. They think you're a complete [ __ ] >> dude. They're going to make nuclear

>> dude. They're going to make nuclear vests to blow people because they just want to blow themselves up, guys. That's

what people want to do. Don't you know?

Don't you know that there's there's people in Iran that want to blow themselves up, guys? Don't you know?

>> Did you know that?

>> Well, I mean, again, we've already talked about how we think that nukes are likely fake. Now,

likely fake. Now, >> dude, the idea that they would have a vest with some kind of some kind of fusion power that's going to split an atom

>> on a vest where they hit a button.

>> So, so stupid. I mean, if anything, >> when you see the size of the bombs that they supposedly they dropped.

>> Yeah.

>> Supposedly, >> they are gigantic.

>> Massive.

>> They are gigantic. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to walk around with that strapped to your chest, >> dude. So ridiculous. And you know what's

>> dude. So ridiculous. And you know what's funny is that uh I wanted to play this video. Actually, there's I got another

video. Actually, there's I got another one. Uh it's actually of Have you seen

one. Uh it's actually of Have you seen the video of the dude in Iran that was like filming the the um scene where we

bombed? And he was like, "Oh, thank you,

bombed? And he was like, "Oh, thank you, President Trump, for um bringing us so much freedom." He was like, "I just feel

much freedom." He was like, "I just feel so free looking around right now." And

he like turns the camera. You like see like it's all just destroyed. He goes,

"Man, I just I don't know what I would do without your freedom, Trump. You've

like saved us from so much oppression by your freedom that you sent us." And he's like like films the desolation again.

And you're like, you're like, "Wow." Um,

we are definitely the bad guys. Like at

this point, we are absolutely the bad guys. And if you don't see it, like I

guys. And if you don't see it, like I feel like you're very much deceived.

>> Well, what about Yeah. So, the um one of the leadups to this current conflict that they don't like to call a war, even though it absolutely is a war, was that

there was all these protesters being killed by the government of Iran. They

were saying like 30,000. Obviously,

there was never never any verification of that, but supposedly they were doing this for them. And then so now what they're doing is like I know Trump I guess I don't know if he went back on it because of course he doesn't he

flip-flops all the time now >> he was mentioning that they were going to strike their energy um their like their their power plants >> in Iran and then so when

>> if they did that Iran was going to retaliate by taking out all these what salination plants >> and so in the Middle East they don't

have the abundance of fresh water is not something they have. So they have to take these they have these salt treatment plants where they >> take the salt out of the water to make drinkable water for people.

>> So if they took out these these salination plants, man, there would be mass people starving because they use that to water their crops and they would

die of thirst if that happened.

>> Dang. So, like how do like how do you >> how are you freeing up people by blowing up their power plants and their infrastructure and their schools and their hospitals?

>> Obviously not. Obviously.

>> Well, you're not. I mean, you're not.

It's a It's a lie. It's always been a lie. And it's interesting how

lie. And it's interesting how during this conflict now what and I've kind of wondered this

that what if the the war in Iran is another cover because what Israel is doing right now is taking southern Lebanon.

>> Oh, that's totally what's they're trying.

>> You know what I'm saying? Like because

nobody's really paying attention to Lebanon. But but as we're bombing Iran,

Lebanon. But but as we're bombing Iran, >> Israel is taking southern Lebanon.

>> Bombing Lebanon. Yeah. They're they're

taking over part of their Greater Israel project.

>> Yep. And it's insane. It's insane. And

by the way, we're going to play I'm going to play I found this video. I

found the video. I wanted to show you guys the um freedom video. It's so

funny. And like more people need to see this. By the way, just so you guys know,

this. By the way, just so you guys know, this is Iran. Let's just play a little bit of Iran. What's going on right now in Iran?

Wow. You can't see I can't see it.

Oh, you can't see it.

>> Mm-m.

>> Is it frozen? It's playing.

It's frozen. Weird. Let me Let me try that again. They don't want you to know.

that again. They don't want you to know.

They don't even want you to know, apparently.

>> Okay. Ready?

>> Rico's coming to check it out.

>> Yeah. Yep.

>> Little Rico.

>> There. The Rico's coming in. Okay. Can

you see it now?

>> Yeah.

>> All right. Okay. Ready? Check this out.

Wow.

JT, did you know there's normal human beings that live in Iran?

>> They like Nirvana.

>> Yeah, they like Nirvana apparently. And

it's like they're like they some of them even look white.

They're like white people even in there.

Like oh my god, look at that. Isn't that

crazy? Isn't that crazy? There's like

normal human beings that live in this COUNTRY THAT WE'RE BOMBING FOR NO REASON.

OKAY. It's just insane, dude. It is

insane. These are people like you. You

would like literally walk down the street, you would be like, "Oh, hey.

What's up, dude?" Like you would be able to talk to them like and this is what's going on.

So, anyways, the oppressive regime and this guy this guy's video is just so perfect. It's so perfectly

perfect. It's so perfectly >> President Donald Trump for liberating the people of Iran. Thank you. Uh so

kind of you >> so generous of you. I mean really how selfless you are to spend 200 plus billion on Israel and the Jewish

supremacists. Thank you so much for

supremacists. Thank you so much for liberating Iran. My goodness, look what

liberating Iran. My goodness, look what you've done to the place. It's so much better already. How wonderful. Thank

better already. How wonderful. Thank

you. Thank you, President.

>> Dude, I just want to thank President Donald Trump for liberating the people of Iran.

>> Look at this.

>> Thank you. Uh so kind of you, so generous of you. I mean, really, how selfless you are to spend 200 plus billion on Israel and the Jewish

supremacists. Thank you so much for

supremacists. Thank you so much for liberating Iran. My goodness, look what

liberating Iran. My goodness, look what you've done to the place. It's so much better already. How wonderful. Thank

better already. How wonderful. Thank

you. Thank you, President.

>> I just had to play it twice because it was worth it cuz like like just that video alone just so shows so much of my gosh, what's going on? And it's so

upsetting like the world this this this woman. Can you hear the audio?

woman. Can you hear the audio?

>> Israeli society has gone full fascist.

It's like Berlin 19.

>> You can't hear the audio?

>> No, I can hear it.

>> Okay. So, she says Israeli society has gone full fascist.

>> I would say they're not indoctrinated in the sense of let's say North Korea. Um

they know exactly what's going on. They

have more honest media than the US.

They see exactly what they're doing.

They see the footage, they know the kids are starving, they agree with it. And

this is overwhelmingly displayed. This

is not just anecdotal through my man on the street interviews when I was in Israel, which I was floored by in a period of relative calm. I mean, it's never relative calm for Palestinians, obviously, but this was in Jerusalem in

a place called Tolerance Square right in front of Zara, you know, and I'm talking to people from all walks of life. Every

single person espoused genocidal rhetoric, genocidal rhetoric, kill them all, bomb them all, drop a big nuke, expel them, we don't want them here. I

was floored. I I I couldn't wrap my mind around it because until then, I'd been kind of placated by politicians and media that the two-state solution was possible, right? I didn't really realize

possible, right? I didn't really realize the impossibility of that until I was there and saw there is no more West Bank and Israeli society has gone full [ __ ] fascist. It's like Berlin 1930.

I mean, it really it really was horrific. I felt like I couldn't spend a

horrific. I felt like I couldn't spend a dime and I felt like I had to take a shower. I was so repulsed by the casual

shower. I was so repulsed by the casual genocidal nature. I've never experienced

genocidal nature. I've never experienced anything like that.

>> Arabist make a pigu and we need to kill.

>> I don't think there's any answer to it really.

>> There's only one way. Like I would carpet bomb them.

>> You would carpet bomb them? It's the

only It's the only way you could deal with it.

>> Wow.

So, that's what we're dealing with. And

uh >> those are the good guys.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Those are the good guys.

>> To get somebody to blow up a bus full of children or a building full of innocent civilians, you have to grind it into their minds. They have to wash their

their minds. They have to wash their brains and tell them there's a higher cause out there. It's religious, ethnic, racial whatever.

And for that higher cause, you can disregard all the normal rules of morality.

>> Huh? It's almost like he's talking about himself and his own people that he's brainwashed as he's destroying all of these children

and these people. So, you know, I mean, that's pretty that's pretty obvious at this point. I just feel so sad that that

this point. I just feel so sad that that kind of stuff is still continuing to this day. People are

this day. People are >> Did you hear that Tucker was just dropped a expose on Netanyahu?

>> No, I I didn't hear that one. Yeah,

>> I got to watch it.

>> We'll have to We'll have to watch it.

Look at this. So, this is a tent of a bunch of innocent Palestinian people. By

the way, these are their tents >> in their they're surviving in their tent space because their houses and everything's been bombed.

Oh, let's just blow up the tent full of people. That's what's happening in

people. That's what's happening in Israel right now. That's what's

happening.

>> You know, I heard a crazy stat, Brian. I

don't know if you heard this.

>> They said that there's been more reporters killed in this current conflict >> than all of history. Well, World War I,

World War II, Korea, Vietnam, and something else.

>> There was more reporters killed >> in this war with Gaza >> than all those combined.

>> Yep.

>> That is insane, bro. Like, I mean, obviously, the only thing that you can think >> about when you hear a stat like that is it's obviously it's intentional. They

don't want you to know what's happening there. No, it's it's

there. No, it's it's >> Did you see that one video of that one reporter who was on the street and he was reporting on something and a bomb dropped like right behind him?

>> Oh, I've seen I've seen probably three videos like that. Like three.

>> There was one real recently. Yeah. The

guy got like shrapnel.

>> Yeah.

>> I'm not sure exactly where he got it. I

mean, I know he was bandaged up, but it was like it it blew up real close next to him.

>> Dude, I've seen so many videos of it.

Like, dude, I've I've seen that happen at least three that I can think of right now, and I know maybe even more. Um, so

yeah, dude, I've seen it. There was one that just happened where it blew up and it just blew a guy's leg off like and they were all standing at a distance, but the bomb shrapnel like just flew and

blew his leg through. Um, anyways, sorry guys to bring it into a sad note, but this is the reality of the world you live in, and we need to stand up for Christ because the reality is, guys, you're seeing this stuff right now. If

you're a Christian, you I'm going to say right now something very controversial.

The Christian church is the problem with the world. Just so you guys know. And

the world. Just so you guys know. And

it's not the Jews. It's not the It's not all this. It's the Christians. You want

all this. It's the Christians. You want

to know why? Because you're not freaking saying nothing. There is more Christian

saying nothing. There is more Christian Zionists than there are people in Israel. Okay, think about that. There is

Israel. Okay, think about that. There is

more Christian Zionists than there are Israel supporting Zionists. There's more

of you guys of the Christian Zionists that support what I just showed you.

That wickedness of just blowing up a bunch of tents of people and just bombing that guy's house and his family and he's just getting freedom from Trump. Like, oh thanks. There's more

Trump. Like, oh thanks. There's more

people supporting that that are Christians. What is wrong with you guys?

Christians. What is wrong with you guys?

Like seriously, Christians need to stand up. The real Christians need to stand up

up. The real Christians need to stand up and start calling it out in your church.

Y'all need to start saying something because bad things happen when good men say nothing. The problem with our

say nothing. The problem with our society, it ain't the Jews. It ain't all this other stuff. It's the freaking Christians that aren't speaking the truth. You know that it's wrong. Go make

truth. You know that it's wrong. Go make

a mess of things and say the truth. Turn

the tables. Okay? If we can get to the church and we can start speaking. Dude,

I had a dream last night that I met what's that woman? Paula White. She was

in my dream last night. Like for reals.

And I was literally and I'm like, "Lord, is this prophetic or what?" I was on a stage speaking and then I was with Paula for some reason and she was wanting me

to sing and I was like I don't sing bro like but I need to have a conversation with you and I was like we need to talk and like I I was like trying to mouth the words and she's like oh it's okay and she was trying to get me to dance

and sing with and I was like no and then all a sudden I was like I we need to go backstage and have a conversation and I went backstage and then Trump was there and I was literally backstage behind

Paula White or her backstage talking to Paula White and Trump. And then I was like, "Trump, I need to tell you something." And I was like, "Check this

something." And I was like, "Check this out." And I showed him the word

out." And I showed him the word anti-semitic.

And um he was like I I at first I was like, "Wait, if I just say that word, he might reject me." And so the dream showed me that I need to say, "Let me start with Noah's descendants." I said,

"There's three people in no three children of Noah's descendants." And I try to explain it to Trump and then he just like at a certain point he realizes that I'm antiseptic and he gets mad and

he walks away and I go Paula White I need to show you this. And I show it to her and she totally receives it and she's like oh my gosh. She's like I didn't realize that's what that was. And

that was the end of the dream. So I need to get to Paula White. That's my that's the consensus of the dream. I need to talk to this Paul White woman because bro, you are you're the one putting whispering the lies into Trump's ears,

convincing him of whatever this nonsense is that he thinks he's a messiah that's fulfilling this. And like literally you

fulfilling this. And like literally you you I need to talk to you. We need to have a conversation.

>> Do you want to see that video? You want

to see that video? The the reporter I was talking about?

>> Yeah. Go for it. Go for it. This

wickedness needs to stop. And

Christians, you need to start telling every one of your friends. If you're

going to the army right now, too, if you're going to the army and you're in the military, go and you're stuck there, guess what? Tell everyone. Wake them all

guess what? Tell everyone. Wake them all up to the truth. Because then if you can wake up your whole squad and turn against the military, guess what? What

are they going to do? If every military person that's going is waking up everyone in there in the military, awesome. Anyways, play the video. Okay.

awesome. Anyways, play the video. Okay.

Sorry.

>> Decal, this footage I'm about to show you is absolutely wild. So, viewer

discretion is advised. You're about to watch journalist Steve Sweeney. He's

reporting in southern Lebanon. Behind

him, an Israeli missile strike lands.

And I know this is very controversial.

Many people are saying that isn't it a war crime to intentionally strike a journalist because he had press on his shirt and the vehicle, but the IDF said that he was on a bridge in southern

Lebanon that Hezbella uses to transport things and they were told to evacuate that area a while ago. Let me know what you guys think. But take a look at this footage. along the border, including the

footage. along the border, including the Almar outpost opposite Merkobar, and carried out drone strikes on the Alra Rahab site near-sh.

Further rocket attacks were reported against Naharia unad.

>> Wow. The fact that he's fine is amazing.

>> [ __ ] hell.

>> Holy cow. This footage I'm about to show you is absolutely wild.

>> Yep. I saw that one. He's Dude, that I mean the fact that he survived that too.

That close because that shrapnel just explodes everywhere and it like >> Oh, man. That That was close, >> bro. That That's crazy.

>> bro. That That's crazy.

>> So that this stuff is wicked, guys. And

they're continuing to do these wicked things and they are spreading this wicked information and they're doing evil stuff to people and it's just, you know, like this this needs to stop and the Christians need to start saying

something. You need to start pissing off

something. You need to start pissing off your pastors and don't not go to the church. Keep going and keep and keep

church. Keep going and keep and keep talking about Israel and keep telling people this is not that's not the definition of anti-semitic. That's not

the definition. I show you guys what the definition is. Show them the definition

definition is. Show them the definition of anti-semitic and be like that's not it. And just keep telling them because

it. And just keep telling them because eventually if we can convince the church, if we full out, like look at all you guys watching the show. If every one of you guys started combining together

to attack whatever church system you guys have and talk to your pastors and convince your pastors that supporting Israel is satanic and evil. If you guys do this and go to other churches, if

your pastors already convinced, go to another church and do it again. Okay?

Because if everybody started doing this, that chain reaction would eventually be like all the pastors will start converting and they'll get up. We need

to convert every one of these pastors out of Zionism before it it's too late.

Eventually, it's going to hit Trump.

Eventually, it's going to hit Paula White. And eventually, things will

White. And eventually, things will change. But we have to break the spell

change. But we have to break the spell of witchcraft that's over this stupid freaking Christian church nonsense bull crap by telling them the truth. Anyways,

sorry. It's my rant.

Um, where did the saints go after out when they come after coming out of the graves? Um, we don't know. We don't

graves? Um, we don't know. We don't

know.

>> New Jerusalem.

>> New Jerus Yeah, New Jerusalem. That's

about it. We don't know. And where they are now, we don't know. Anyways,

>> well, New Jerusalem. Where is New Jerusalem? Not sure.

Jerusalem? Not sure.

>> Yeah, we Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We

don't know. We have no clue. Um, I think that's probably it for the questions today. Um, I think we can end there.

today. Um, I think we can end there.

There's more. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm gonna make a comment on the

do. I'm gonna make a comment on the YouTube channel and if you guys want to ask more questions, I'll just like write a thing and you guys can put them in there and then we'll come on the next show and just and then we'll just like go through the list of questions already

pre-arranged and answer them because I know there's a lot more questions you guys want to ask um and we didn't get to. So, just uh yeah, I'll make a post

to. So, just uh yeah, I'll make a post and you guys can throw them in there and I'll try to we'll pre-prepare next week to answer these questions in more detail. But that's pretty much it, guys.

detail. But that's pretty much it, guys.

Um, thanks for hanging out with us and uh, JJ, any last things to share or say?

>> Um, yeah, just the Afterglow podcast is coming up in about an hour over on the Echoes of Truth Network podcast or Echoes of Truth Network YouTube channel.

>> Check that out.

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