She Opposed Women Doing This… and Feminists Got TRIGGERED

that I think a woman's right to vote should count as three-fifths of a man's vote.

>> I'll be back.

>> Because I don't think women are nearly as competent as men are. Like I've been around girls and they say these things like, "Oh, I don't want to go there."

And I'm like, "Why? I've never driven that far before. I'm scared." It's like, you've never heard a man ever opt out of anything out of fear because they don't have that option to. I just or like you just hear like women tend to like rely

on men a lot too like they basically want like a surrogate father figure like they they think it's cute >> generalization.

>> Yeah. But I'm I am talking generally.

I'm talking about like how women like most women honestly like they tend to think it's like cute to be weak and incompetent and they want like a man to come and >> but stereotypes are true for a reason.

Like they form for a reason. It's like

pattern recognition. It's important to not generalize and say like most women, some women, you know, >> well, incompetent at what? Like what are you refer You have to be specific there cuz it is a generalization, but it's

it's hard to say that just women in general aren't competent. Like at what?

>> Well, I just like >> there's tons of women. I know.

>> You're a woman yourself. You can start with yourself. What do you think you're

with yourself. What do you think you're not competent in?

>> Break it down.

>> Um, well, I don't think I'm the most athletic.

So what if I told you I can run a mile faster than my brother who works out every day?

I also finished technical college and he didn't.

>> I'm the first person in my family to do that.

>> I think there are competent women that exist. I'm not saying they don't like.

exist. I'm not saying they don't like.

>> Right. So what's the generalization when there's record-breaking surgery? And I'm

not a feminist. I'm not a feminist. But

but I'm telling you for me personally with my religion in the Bible it says God created men and women equal. Yes. With different roles.

women equal. Yes. With different roles.

Different roles in society. But

physically, I'm not as strong as my brother, but I can run faster than him.

That's great. But to say that it's like almost like 3/4s of a man is almost like derogatory to your own self. Like it's

almost like some self- projection going on there because I don't think that way.

I don't think some of these other ladies here think that way. And it's honestly kind of offensive.

>> You're basically saying we're worth like three-fifths of what a man is.

>> But do we do the same roles that men do in society? Like they're most likely to

in society? Like they're most likely to get drafted into war. Are we not all of wait? I think it should be different for

wait? I think it should be different for the war.

>> There's definitely different gender roles in our society >> obviously. Yeah.

>> obviously. Yeah.

>> Right.

>> And you don't think men do more of like the harder work in society >> in this generation. It's honestly it's starting to break. Like women are just as >> So you think like there's a lot of women in blue collar work?

>> I would say blue collar, but there's in lawyers, doctors, surgeons. Like women

are shown that they're as competent.

It's just how we grow like raised. But

now women are starting to raise stronger women. And it's like we can see that.

women. And it's like we can see that.

>> But you think that's like all women? You

think every single woman?

>> But again, with the generalization, we can't say all women, all men. There's an

exception to every stereotype, to every gender.

>> Yeah, I believe that. I think there's always exceptions to everyone.

>> Exactly. So, we can't say like most women act weak and incompetent and we want a man to provide for us because that's not most women.

>> You don't think women think it's cute to be weak and incompetent? Like,

>> maybe that's you, but >> No, it's not me. It's me getting fed up and jaded with my own gender, acting that way all the time. What's your idea of a competent woman woman then?

>> Right.

>> I guess someone more rational, someone that doesn't let like fear overtake.

>> Do you believe in gender roles?

>> To some extent. Yeah.

>> Do you believe that men are naturally more logical or rational?

>> I think there are like feminine men out there for sure. But I think on average, yeah, like there's probably more men that are typically more rational than women. know that scientifically a woman

women. know that scientifically a woman it was created by God to think harder and rationally about situations while men before the age of 26 when their brain their frontal cortex is fully

developed they are statistically more inclined to take risks that's why a woman can rent a car at a younger age than a man can because her brain develops faster I'm just that's just how it isn't that he's not going to be

accelerated at certain things earlier on in life but it's like that specific part of the brain with critical thinking and risk assessment is developed much quicker in a woman. So I I'm trying to figure out like like where like the

logical like ground here is. Like I

said, I'm not a feminist, but it's like just scientifically just doesn't make sense.

>> Well, it's also confusing because you kind of just conceded the point that men on average are probably more rational and this isn't my my belief. I'm just

this is what you had conceded, right?

But it als But you also said in order for a woman to be competent, she needs to be more rational. So, it's it's like if you how do you believe in gender roles if you're saying in order for a woman to be competent, she needs to act

like a man, which in your opinion is someone who's more rational.

>> Does that make sense?

>> Yeah. But I don't know what you're asking.

>> So, are you >> Well, I'm just saying it doesn't it's like a well, it it's like you're asking girls to be or women to act more like men in your belief in order to be competent,

>> but you also believe in gender roles and that women should act like women and men should act like men. I think like I don't know. I feel like I can't control

don't know. I feel like I can't control other people, right? Like if there's a feminine guy out there, if there's a tomboy out there, like that's just who they are. Like people like everyone's

they are. Like people like everyone's their own person, you know?

>> So if there's a really strong woman, is that just who she is, too?

>> Yeah.

>> So technically the same, it should apply to both genders, what you're saying about incompetency.

>> Yeah. I I mean, I've definitely met like just really like like typically like the quote unquote incels, like guys that are just like feel really entitled to a girl's affection, but they don't do anything but play video games all day.

Like I think guys like that are incompetent, you know, for one example, right? So stereotypes do exist, but like

right? So stereotypes do exist, but like does that make generalizing okay? Like

what you said earlier about most women being weak and incompetent? No, I said they liked they think it's cute to act that way, >> right? You think it's cute weaponized

>> right? You think it's cute weaponized incompetence almost that way.

>> Well, there's no statistic that proves that.

>> I think it's more like if you know more women that act that way, you could say that. But to general to generalize a

that. But to general to generalize a gender and say that most of our gender acts that way, it's offensive. And I

think probably a lot of the women here would take offense to that comment.

>> And act weak in what way? like

like physically like I can't lift anything or probably cuz the first mean like weak minded like I guess weak-minded. Yeah.

weak-minded. Yeah.

>> Okay. So

h >> I think it's just vague like I would disagree with you because I think you definitely can make generalizations but if you're going to have the stats

>> right I agree with that it shouldn't be >> I agree with that 100%. Also, to be fair to women, I do want to point out like I do think part of it comes from the fact that it's not just that women aren't encouraged, they're actually actively

discouraged whether they're like good at school or good at their hobbies. Like a

lot of times like like the whole concept of male mediocrity like a guy will be not as talented as a girl, but he gets all the attention cuz he's a guy. Like I

do think that there is that in society like people kind of just push back on women a lot and don't give them enough credit.

>> I don't think that's true either really.

I feel like nowadays, I'm sorry for for disagreeing with you on a lot, but um no, I don't feel like men get most of the attention nowadays. I'd say it's >> I think they get much less.

>> Yeah, I think they get a lot less. Um I

would agree.

>> So I think we t we also highlight women because usually we don't choose to do like for example blue collar work and stuff like that. So we tend to highlight women who do do those things like girls

or women in STEM. That's like it's like a novel piece versus common which is like male blueco collar right is what you're saying.

>> There's definitely some cultures like I can talk like personally that are like more patriarchal. So like when a girl

more patriarchal. So like when a girl gets born everyone's like kind of like oh sucks for you but when a guy gets born like everyone's so excited like I know it's like that in my culture. I

know like I've heard of something called machismo in like Latin culture too. So I

know that is a thing but I don't know about America.

I mean, that's a thing, but it's just that it's a thing. It's

something I don't like. I've had it happen to me in person where like I'm out with my dad and people will say hi and greet him, but not me, you know?

Like >> that could be a respect thing, too.

>> Respectful >> because, you know, like that happens with me and my dad. But it's like because some men don't like my dad might not want some one of his friends talking

to me, you know, and they know that or they don't want to cross that line, that boundary and make a mistake. So, it's

like a a respect thing, I think.

>> I have a question for you. Um, going

back to like gender roles and stuff like that, do you believe that it's it should be more socially acceptable and it should be okay for men to show emotion?

>> Show emotion. How? Like crying. crying,

expressing their feelings, >> um, >> emotions besides like anger, you know?

>> I think it's okay for men to be nurturing and vulnerable, but I don't think men should cry. No.

>> Do you think women should cry?

>> Yeah.

>> Why? What's the difference between women crying and men crying?

>> Cuz I think like men kind of have to like I know like in my household for example, like men kind of like have to make a decision for a household or something. like you kind of have to know

something. like you kind of have to know that this person's like reliable or mentally strong.

>> So this sounds like a very like culturally based take and I'm going to agree with you on that because like not agree, sorry, disagree with you on that because I was also raised in a very culturally based family, German, hardcore. My dad was born there. He's a

hardcore. My dad was born there. He's a

sergeant sheriff. Same exact way. He was

taught men don't cry, boys don't cry. He

is now two divorces later crying doing AA because he didn't express that for all the years he was with me. And now at the age of 21 with me, I was taught word for word, I was raised, I was supposed to go to military school, didn't end up

going because of a surgery, >> is that men don't cry. Get on your toes.

Stand attention. He's now teaching me all these years later. He sat us down.

We just got back from a beautiful trip.

We have a beautiful relationship. He's

apologized for everything he told me.

That was some place where I went wrong because that's what that's how I was raised. I passed down the generational

raised. I passed down the generational trauma and it had a huge effect on me to the point where it broke two different marriages. Because if men don't express

marriages. Because if men don't express their feelings, it comes out in other ways. abuse,

ways. abuse, mistreatment, emotional abuse, whatever it is, divorce. And later on life, they have to deal with it. I've lived that.

I've experienced it. And it is a very culturally based thing. Not as much in general American households anymore, but with more traditional families, that's how it works. But I'm just want to show you what from my perspective and from

all the other aspects of my family because it's happened in other branches of my family that that's the outcome.

>> As well as my brother ending up in jail twice. So, and anyone suppressing their

twice. So, and anyone suppressing their emotions like as a woman, you know, if we're feeling distressed or our mental health is, you know, not good, we're told to like go to therapy or open up to

someone about it or talk about it, right? But like men aren't like openly

right? But like men aren't like openly allowed to cry or allowed to like show emotions and like what does that do to a person's mental state?

>> What is therapy doing for women though?

Like you're just talking in circles about something that's never going to change.

>> Like what can a therapist really do for you? They can't change your situation.

you? They can't change your situation.

>> That's not true. I went you you would expect them to hand you a tissue and pat you on the back.

>> It's coping mechanisms and like new ways of looking at open your eyes on different perspectives.

>> Yeah. But there's other ways to do that.

Like there's other ways to do that. And

I totally respect your view if you don't agree with therapy and you don't agree with that for yourself. You know, that's fine. That's like I respect your

fine. That's like I respect your opinion, but I think like to generalize and say that therapy doesn't work is just like, you know, it's another like big generalizing statement because it does work for some people. It does help

some people.

>> And I feel like if you're talking in circles and you're not getting anywhere, that's a >> that's a bad therapist.

>> That's a you problem, too. Because you

should be willing to change if you actually want to make a difference in yourself.

>> There's different ways to help yourself besides therapy. You know, it's not for

besides therapy. You know, it's not for everyone. Some people might go to

everyone. Some people might go to therapy and be like, you know, this isn't working for me. I don't feel like I resonate with this. And then they'll go on and do a different form of something to help with their mental health, whether that's like art or, you know, a different form of expressing

themsel, talking to someone that they care about. Like there's there's

care about. Like there's there's different ways. Therapy is not the only

different ways. Therapy is not the only option. I respect people having like

option. I respect people having like their own opinions on that. But what I was going back to like that got off topic is like I don't think it's healthy for anyone to suppress their emotions

and what they are going through. it's

going to lead to bigger problems in the future.

>> I think you should know how to control your emotions though. And I think no maybe we should give women a little bit more leeway in terms of because I mean hormonally we just are different. Like

there are certain times of month that I'm >> crazy and there are certain times where I'm not. And so I think like there is

I'm not. And so I think like there is some validity to that to that. And I I don't I know I was grow raised with a dad who was like very traditional too

and my mom same. and I like respect him a lot because of how he controlled his emotions and it taught me a lot as well.

>> Um, so I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to I don't want to say full on suppress your emotions but control them, learn how to control them and >> controlling and suppressing your emotions are two different things.

Regulating is then the next level up from that because >> Yeah. And that'll look different for

>> Yeah. And that'll look different for everyone, right? So

everyone, right? So >> yeah, of course.

>> Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't want my husband constantly coming to me crying, and I don't think he would want the same from for me to him to either. Um,

>> yeah, that's that's different.

>> Yeah. But I think a lot of women would say that, but I don't know that they would necessarily respect a guy that came crying to them about something that, you know,

>> I thousand% would. I would think that I would actually see the man as being a lot stronger for being able to open up to me and come to me about something and like express their emotions to me in that way. I'd see them as being 10,000%

that way. I'd see them as being 10,000% stronger for that.

>> So, has a man ever cried to you before?

And how did it make you feel?

>> Many times. And it made me feel okay.

Happy that they were able to come to me and confide in me. Happy that, you know, they were able to come to me and I was able to be there for them and listen to

them. And also just like

them. And also just like glad that you know things are changing in our society so that they didn't feel like that pressure to keep it all pent inside.

>> It's really important that you're providing that space for a man to come to you because >> well I want to be a therapist one day.

>> Yeah. And male suicides are higher than any other suicide rate. And I think that it's >> Yeah. opinions like that of men not

>> Yeah. opinions like that of men not being allowed to cry or express themselves that would lead somebody to >> Yeah.

>> And I have a question for you. What

would you do if a man that you really cared about, a friend, someone you loved, a family member came to you crying about something? Are you going to make fun of them and be like, "Oh, that's not manly of you." Or are you going to judge them?

>> I would never make fun of someone like like while they're crying or something like that. But

like that. But >> but men aren't supposed to cry, right?

>> Yeah. I mean, like I would definitely like ask what what's going on and like try to figure out what's going on. But I

I have to be honest and admit like there is a part of me that would kind of get the ick and be kind of like like what >> would you think they're weak for crying in front of you?

>> Yeah, probably.

>> But when you cry it's okay and you're not weak for that cuz you're a woman, right?

>> I guess like she said like women have like hormonal stuff going on too sometimes.

>> But men also have feelings. So you what you're saying right now their feelings are not valid hormonal periods.

What?

>> She asked if it was okay to only cry when we're on our periods. I think I >> I think it's definitely okay for men to cry. Um but if you're doing if you're

cry. Um but if you're doing if you're just as emotional as me, it's going to be harder for me to respect you cuz I need someone to ground me. Um like I'm not asking for him to be like my

therapist or anything, but like I I don't know. I feel like it is harder for

don't know. I feel like it is harder for a woman to respect a guy if he's just as emotional as her. And that's why I think like something can be true for a woman.

Like it might be okay for me to constantly cry about things cuz I just happen to be an emotional person. But if

that was the same for a guy because he's a guy and this might seem unfair to some people. Um it's it's just it would be

people. Um it's it's just it would be harder, at least speaking for myself, it'd be harder to respect him. Um and

not to say he can't come to me if he ever needs to. um or he can't be vulnerable because I think vulnerabil vulnerability is like very important in

a relationship. Um but at this there is

a relationship. Um but at this there is kind of that double standard if you will but it's it just goes back into the different roles.

>> I'd like to challenge that though because that gets into different people and different connections. Every person

has different needs and wants in a relationship, in a friendship, whatever.

If you have your own mental health stuff, like say you're struggling with depression anxiety whatever and you're going to your partner a lot, crying, or you know, just expressing

that to them that you're in like emotional distress, you might not be able to take on the emotional distress distress of your partner being in that same headsp space, >> right? And I think that's person to

>> right? And I think that's person to person. That's not like man towoman.

person. That's not like man towoman.

like the man needs to stand up and be the bigger like I don't I just think like if two people are both in mental like bad mental head spaces like it's not it might not work out because

>> I think but even if they're in an ideal mental head I don't think it changes anything for me like there's variations but I think it there is usually a role

like typically if a man is just as emotional as his partner um then typically she it's going to be harder for her to respect him. I think there's like different times you might be going

through different things in your life and it might make it, you know, harder to balance. There's a balance in

to balance. There's a balance in different relationships, but I think again there's there's usually a general rule that applies. And I just from what I've experienced and seen with my

girlfriends and stuff, I I just find that to be true.

>> I agree. That's kind of like a biological thing almost that women are like most women, again, situational, are like programmed to want to feel safe and protected. And like yes, like I said

protected. And like yes, like I said before, I believe that men should be able to cry when they need to express their feelings in a vulnerable space with the right person. Again, situation

to situation. For me, I don't want a man that's crying every day all the time. I

wouldn't accept that.

>> That's a personal person.

>> Exactly. Right. Yeah. And it's like that's for me that's really rooted on I value masculinity a lot. Not that I really fully believe to like the stereotypical definitions of that, but for example, a long time ago, I went on

one date with this guy and then I went on another one and on the second date, he just started breaking down crying in my arms like bawling about how he misses

his mother that lives in Florida and I was out after that because I don't tolerate that because I am more of a strong personality and I don't want the

roles in that category to be re reversed for myself. It is a to each their own

for myself. It is a to each their own thing, but I think just biologically at least I'm stuck to my biological components that that's what I need. So

for some people it might be different.

The woman might be more masculine and that's a whole another conversation. But

I I am Yeah. Just

>> I think it's sad that we're saying that like well some people are saying that it's masculine. It's less masculine to

it's masculine. It's less masculine to cry. That's crazy to me because it's a

cry. That's crazy to me because it's a human emot. It's like I'm sweating right

human emot. It's like I'm sweating right now and people are like, "Uh, she's sweat." You know, like

sweat." You know, like >> I'm a human being. I have sweat pores.

That's kind of a That's kind of like saying girls don't fart or poop.

>> Crazy. I wish I didn't, but I do because I control that. And I feel like saying that a man who cries I mean I understand if it can anybody crying too much is

annoying.