Stop Vibe Coding. Start Getting Customers.

Today we're going to talk about how you can build anything with AI, but people are going to need to figure out distribution. How do you actually get

distribution. How do you actually get customers to the thing that you're vibe coding? I believe that the wealthiest

coding? I believe that the wealthiest people will be marketers over the next 10 years. But every YouTube tutorial is

10 years. But every YouTube tutorial is telling you how to vibe code. So today,

by the end of this episode, you're going to have seven really straightforward things that you can do this week.

frameworks, ideas, alpha that's working right now, uh, so that you can actually build a software company, a SAS, an agent company that actually gets customers. So, I'm going to explain how

customers. So, I'm going to explain how to do it. By the end of this, you're going to get your creative juices flowing. I needed to make this episode.

flowing. I needed to make this episode.

I really needed to make this episode.

I'm actually recording at night and you know I tweeted this that you know people need to figure out distribution you know and it hurts me that people are you know

don't have the ideas around it. So like

and comment if you want me to do more episodes on this. Let's get right into it.

So I believe that there's this great flip happening. you know, I moved to

flip happening. you know, I moved to Silicon Valley um in 2014 and uh when I moved it was all about engineers as number one. I actually

studied computer science in university because I was like engineers are number one on the hierarchy, right? And then it became product uh and then marketing as at the bottom like literally the

laughingtock of Silicon Valley were marketing people. Now today I believe

marketing people. Now today I believe that you know because of AI distribution people who understand distribution how to get customers is you know you're at

the top of the list then it's product people and then it's developers. Um this

is you know a big deal because I actually think that not a lot of people understand distribution. They don't

understand distribution. They don't understand brand. They don't understand

understand brand. They don't understand advertising. They don't understand

advertising. They don't understand content. Um, but I think that, you know,

content. Um, but I think that, you know, if you can, you know, if you do understand it, you are at an unfair advantage. Um, you know, there's 200,000

advantage. Um, you know, there's 200,000 new vibe coding projects being created every single day on Lovable. Um, how

many people are actually seeing those products? Probably not a lot. Um, Peter

products? Probably not a lot. Um, Peter

Levelvels has $3 million plus of revenue. He has zero employees. The

revenue. He has zero employees. The

reason why he's been able to uh you know get so much revenue as a one-person business is he's got 750,000 plus followers I think and also he's got great SEO. I mean if you look at some of

great SEO. I mean if you look at some of the stuff that he works on you know Nomad List for example a lot of the tools

uh like these could be you know copied quite quickly. Um you know it's it's

quite quickly. Um you know it's it's essentially a directory. I've done

episodes and tours on how to vibe code directories before, you know, but he's he's obviously got good data and data is part of that, but it's also largely he's got an audience, he's got trust, and

he's built good SEO.

We'll talk more about that in this episode. So the big trap uh that I think

episode. So the big trap uh that I think a lot of founders and builders do is they vibe code something, you know, once they've built the product, they've got

this great idea. Um then they're just going to try marketing things, but it's just silence. So then they're going to

just silence. So then they're going to build more features and they're going to launch again and more silence. So they

basically are just thinking about how do I build a really good product? Um and if you build it, they will come. But they

don't come. What smart builders do is they start with the distribution. So

they'll grow an audience uh to maybe a thousand people. They ask that audience

thousand people. They ask that audience what they need. Uh and then they go and build it in a weekend, 24 hours, 72 hours, a few days. Um and then that

audience is shocked that wow you built the thing that I wanted. And then you launch it to a warm audience. You

iterate with real users and you start making money. So it's distribution

making money. So it's distribution first, product second. Always. You know

the example of Peter Levelvels. I think

I you know I think he's tweeted 125,000 times in the last like eight years. You

know he's he's put in the consistency and the work to actually go and build that audience and he's been iterating with users and customers you know with them. So let's get into the actual

them. So let's get into the actual tactics. Uh strategy one is going to be

tactics. Uh strategy one is going to be about using an MCP server as your sales team. So, you know, if you're listen if

team. So, you know, if you're listen if you're listening to Startup Ideas podcast, you probably know what an MCP is. Um, but you can think of it as

is. Um, but you can think of it as basically like an uh an app. Um, you

know, the example I I'll use here is, you know, plugins in OpenAI. You use the o the MCP protocol. So, you can just be like at Google Drive, find the right drive, then summarize a doc and update a

sheet or edit a slides deck. So, there's

this massive opportunity to build MCP servers as your sales team. How does it work? Well, a user asks an a the AI. It

work? Well, a user asks an a the AI. It

could be, you know, Claude, it could be Chad GBT as a question. The AI discovers your MCP server and AI returns uh you know your

product and the user gets value from it.

So there's zero CAC. The AI assistant basically becomes your sales teams. And I have friends who are you know I'm actually incubating uh some things you know around here. And actually if you

look at ideabrowser.com you know we we've been doing some MCP stuff we also have a lot of friends who just you know in in for example in the fintech space you know 150 plus

installations in 30 days $0 ad spend for something that he vibe coded uh quite quickly. So I believe that building an

quickly. So I believe that building an MCP server in 2026 is in a lot of ways building like kind of building for mobile in 2010. there's just a lot of opportunities to show up in LLMs in

these connections plugins or MCP servers. So, how can you start uh this

servers. So, how can you start uh this week? And and by the way, I realize that

week? And and by the way, I realize that this, you know, an MPC an MCP server, it's not for everyone, right? If you're

building a boring business, maybe that's not for you or, you know, even some software businesses might might not be for you. But for some people, for SAS,

for you. But for some people, for SAS, you know, if you want to get started this week, um what can you do? Identify

what question your product answers.

That's the first thing you're going to want to do. Number two, you're going to want to build an MCP server that returns that data. You can vibe the code that

that data. You can vibe the code that realistically in 24 hours or less.

You're going to want to publish that to MCP registries, uh, Smithery, MCPT, Open Tools, and then every AI assistant that connects to your server is now selling

for you 24/7. So, that's a bet that you're going to make. Um, and that's strategy number one. Let's get to strategy number two. Strategy number two

is programmatic SEO. So, it's how can you create 10,000 pages SEO pages in 48 hours. So, you're going to want to look

hours. So, you're going to want to look at, you know, a keyword a keyword pattern pattern. Best X for Y. So, best

pattern pattern. Best X for Y. So, best

uh CRM for dentists, for example. Then,

you're going to want to do uh look at uh data sets. So, you're going to want to I

data sets. So, you're going to want to I actually did a whole episode on firecrawl recently, a tutorial on how to use it. Um, so you're going to want to

use it. Um, so you're going to want to but basically what does that do if you haven't seen that? It basically goes and scrapes and gets you clean structured data. Uh, so that you can actually, you

data. Uh, so that you can actually, you know, provide value in your in your pages. Uh, then you're going to want to

pages. Uh, then you're going to want to do use a page template, Nex.js. You can

use cloud code or something to actually go and build this. Uh, then you're going to want to actually create AI content.

And then you're going to go and create 10,000 pages. Now, I know there's a big

10,000 pages. Now, I know there's a big gap. I can see the comment right in the

gap. I can see the comment right in the comment section right now. It's okay.

Oh, you're just going to press one button and then just automatically create 10,000 pages. Uh well, no, of course not because you you know, you you

do need to make sure that the content is good and doesn't feel like AI. So,

there's going to be a lot of optimizations that you're going to have to do to actually get it so it doesn't feel like AI. But once you get it to there, I mean, you can start with just a few pages and once you get it to there,

then you can start scaling to to more pages. Um, you know, the math is is

pages. Um, you know, the math is is pretty simple. If you end up creating,

pretty simple. If you end up creating, you know, 10,000 pages and each page gets 30 visits a month, which, you know, it's not a lot of visits, right? Um,

that could go up to, you know, 300,000 monthly visitors. If you convert at 2%,

monthly visitors. If you convert at 2%, that's 6,000 conversions a month. Maybe

that's $10 each. and then all of a sudden you're making $60,000 a month from pages you built once. Now those 30 visits a month that's not going to happen overnight. Um SEO does take some

happen overnight. Um SEO does take some time to compound and but like think about it directionally, right?

Directionally the idea is build a lot of pages, get really good at creating AI content, get structured data that's ex that's high quality um and uh and and

and rinse repeat. So, how can I actually start this this week? If this is something that's interesting to you, how can I go and start this this week? Well,

you're going to want to pick a keyword pattern. So, like the product type for

pattern. So, like the product type for niche or service in city um like for example the CRM for dentist or um you

know uh roofing in Miami. You're going

to want to build your data set. So,

you're going to want to scrape with firecrawl or you can use existing databases. You can create a template in

databases. You can create a template in your framework like you know nest next.js JS, Web Flow, WordPress doesn't, you know, just stick with the thing that you're going to use. And then you're going to want to use AI to generate

unique content per page. So, not just variable swaps, actual paragraphs, highquality stuff. Um, and you know, you

highquality stuff. Um, and you know, you also might want to have a human in the loop to actually edit and look at some of this content. Publish a 100 pages as

an MVP, monitor indexation, and then that's when you can go ahead and scale.

So, that's number two. I think that's applicable to really anyone. doesn't

make a difference if you're building a service, a SAS, an app, you've got a boring business, you got an agency, programmatic SEO is still under tap.

Strategy number three, uh three on seven is doing a free tool as a top of the funnel uh for your top of the funnel.

So, the tool is your marketing. Um, you

know, the example I would use is, uh, Href for for a while has had this backlink check, uh, checker. So, you

know, you you put in your domain, for example gregisenberg.com.

example gregisenberg.com.

It's going to see what are the different backlinks, like who's uh connected to me, uh, what links are connected to me.

Um, and, you know, is high quality and stuff like that. And, you know, but the the reality is it gives you a taste of their full product. So if I want more, I have to go and spend hundreds of dollars

or thousands of dollars a month with Hrefs. So they kind of hook you in

Hrefs. So they kind of hook you in through that. So you know, step one is

through that. So you know, step one is building a free tool. It could be a grader, it can be an analyzer, it can be a calculator. Uh step two is the user

a calculator. Uh step two is the user gets instant value. So you know, your site scores 43 on 100. Um, generally

what you want to do is obviously grab their data in some capacity, you know, text message, email in order to get access that. Uh, step three is the user

access that. Uh, step three is the user shares their score. So, that's going to help this thing go viral. Uh, social

proof, back back links. Um, and then step four is more users are going to discover it. So, you've got this organic

discover it. So, you've got this organic viral loop. And step five is upsell to a

viral loop. And step five is upsell to a paid product. So, you want to fix these

paid product. So, you want to fix these issues? Well, we've got the product for

issues? Well, we've got the product for you. Now this uh strategy has been

you. Now this uh strategy has been around for for a while, right? Um you

know, but why is it different? Well, now

it's different because you can use cloud code uh to go and actually build these free tools, right? It's now like not crazy to build a free tool a week,

whereas in the past these things would have taken you months. So you can vibe code a free tool in a day, ship it by lunch, and it markets itself forever.

So, uh, I really like this one. This is

something that I'm doing in all my businesses as much as possible. Um, and

if you want to get started this week, I would just say, uh, you know, I would ask, uh, you know, your LLM of choice to be like, here's what I'm working on, and

give me 10 ideas for free tools that can act as my top of the funnel. And that's,

you know, you're going to have your 10 tools. You can prioritize the best poss

tools. You can prioritize the best poss ones that you think are the best. You

can even ask your audience, hey, what would be more interesting? This or that?

Um, get them involved and then go and build it and then just, you know, we we think of uh when you do social media, you think of like an editorial calendar, a content calendar, but no one really

thinks about like a free tool calendar.

And I really do believe the tool is the marketing. This is working. Don't know

marketing. This is working. Don't know

why more people aren't doing it. Um, but

strategy number three, one of my faves.

Strategy number four, answer engine optimization. So you want to be the

optimization. So you want to be the source that AI sites. So the old way of, you know, getting seen obviously was SEO. You just wanted to get, you know,

SEO. You just wanted to get, you know, on on Google page one. You do 30,000word blog posts. You're doing backlink

blog posts. You're doing backlink building, keyword stuffing. Oh my god.

Um click through your site. You know,

I'm just having flashbacks of all of doing all this stuff. Um it's there's still opportunity in SEO. I mean we talked about it today but it's declining

um and zeroclick searches are growing right so um if AEO is in 2026 is where

SEO was in 2010 first movers will own these niches for years so uh the idea is answer engine optimization how do we get cited by chat GBT and perplexity you

know structured direct answers you can do an FAQ format schema markup comparison and tables that AI can parse so that you know that way uh yeah you're

getting seen a little more. Um and then AI AI is going to send users to your product. So um yeah I think it was Peter

product. So um yeah I think it was Peter Levelvels actually uh I believe that he said like his AI referrals jumped from 4% to 20% in 1 month. I think that it's

only going to increase for you know across the board on e-commerce SAS apps you you name it. So, um, it's worth kind of, uh, exploring. It's worth exploring.

So, okay, great. You know, you probably already knew this. Obviously, you know, you want to be seen in Perplexia or Chat GBT, but how do you, how can you start this this week? Well, Google the top

step one is to Google the top 20 questions your customer asks.

And you're going to step two, write the definitive structured answers for each.

So, I'm not talking about 3,000word fluff. I'm talking about clear, direct,

fluff. I'm talking about clear, direct, citation worthy. It's all about getting

citation worthy. It's all about getting citation worthy content. Then you're

going to add step three, add schema markup and FAQ blocks. Step four, you're going to want to publish on a domain with authority or build authority through the other strategies. Um,

obviously it's bet, you know, why a Peter Levels, you know, could could get his SEO and AEO up quickly, more quicker than the average person listening to this is

because a lot of his domains have built authority over time. So, uh, you know, there's no better time. Start building

that authority today. And then lastly, monitor your perplexity and chat GBT citations. You can use tools like

citations. You can use tools like Otterly, there's profound, there's manual testing. Um but the important

manual testing. Um but the important thing here is that you're just getting started. So get started this week um on

started. So get started this week um on AEO. Strategy number five is how can you

AEO. Strategy number five is how can you make your outputs of your product sharable? So we all know you know the

sharable? So we all know you know the end of year December Spotify wrapped. Um

they get 100 million shares every December of that thing. It's absolutely

crazy. Um everyone wants to share it.

Your mother wants to share it. Your

sister wants to share it. Your kids want to share it. Everyone is sharing it, laughing about it. It says it says about something about your identity, who you are. So what is that for you, right? So

are. So what is that for you, right? So

what is the free distribution output sharable thing that you can be creating?

You know, the way I the way I the way I have it in my head at least is, you know, ask what does my user want to brag about and then make that thing beautiful

and sharable. Uh for GitHub, they've got

and sharable. Uh for GitHub, they've got the contribution graph. Um, and then you see like devs bragging about sharing those green squares on Twitter. Uh,

Stripe Atlas, which allows you to create companies. You know, the artifact there

companies. You know, the artifact there is the incorporation milestone. Founders

tweet, uh, I just I just incorporated or it's been 5 years since uh, I incorporated. Uh, here's my, you know,

incorporated. Uh, here's my, you know, my anniversary post lessons learned.

Duolingo perhaps you know one of the most famous uh examples daily streak count and then uh you know users are bragging about 365day streaks I don't

know if Snapchat was before them I think they were um but like I think yeah I think that was an original Snapchat thing too right um I like to look at like how social products like what are

social products doing um because you can actually take a lot of that thinking that psychology and bring that into whatever it is you're doing so your product. What is the artifact that

product. What is the artifact that you're going to create? What is the viral artifact that you're going to create? Um, what do your users want to

create? Um, what do your users want to brag about? So, if we want to get

brag about? So, if we want to get started this week, what are we going to what do we need? Step one, we're going to have to identify the output or milestone your user would screenshot and share. Step two, let's make it

share. Step two, let's make it beautiful. Let's make it sharable. Let's

beautiful. Let's make it sharable. Let's

make it branded. Your logo actually should be subtle but present. I've seen

some examples of artifacts that the logo is super big and it just no one wants to share someone else's logo. It should be it should feel uh it's about you. Step

three is you're going to want to add a share button that prefills the post with the artifact. Step four, every share is

the artifact. Step four, every share is free impressions to your exact target audience. So that's a huge win. Um the

audience. So that's a huge win. Um the

user is doing your marketing because they're bragging about themselves. Uh

people are going to say well these are you know mostly consumer uh examples will this work in B2B

um or you know yeah B2B yes you know at the end of the day B2B are people too there's things that these you know people want to share maybe they're sharing it within Slack maybe they're

sharing it within Microsoft Teams but just think about what is something that they are willing to share uh with your with the group that you ultimately want

more of. So that is strategy number

more of. So that is strategy number five. Strategy number six. So you know

five. Strategy number six. So you know me, you know, I think audiences are really important. Um, sometimes, you

really important. Um, sometimes, you know, it's just hard to build an audience. Listen, a lot of times it's

audience. Listen, a lot of times it's hard to build the audience more more often than not. Uh, it takes it takes sometimes years. It requires daily

sometimes years. It requires daily content. Uh, there's no guarantee it

content. Uh, there's no guarantee it works too, right? Sometimes you just it doesn't work. Um, and then it it's

doesn't work. Um, and then it it's tough, right? Because you have zero

tough, right? Because you have zero subscribers on day one. So, uh, what if you just acquired a niche newsletter instead of building from zero? So, this

is something a lot of people don't think about, but you can go and like buy a 10,000 subscriber newsletter for $5 to $20,000. You inherit that trust from day

$20,000. You inherit that trust from day one. You plug in your product

one. You plug in your product immediately, and then you can repeat that across niches. Um,

if you have a product that you believe in and you understand the LTV, this just might make sense for you. Uh, so,

and a lot of these uh, smaller newsletters, like they're not really monetizing that well, so they might be like stoked to get a $10,000 offer from you. So, if we want to just get this

you. So, if we want to just get this started this week, uh I would go to deuce.com, uh which is like a, you know, listing of selling newsletters, newsletter

investor, or just search your niche newsletter on Twitter or Substack and just try to find these newsletters.

That's step one. Step two is you probably want to look at the 5,000 to 50,000 subscriber in your target niche.

You obviously don't want to buy something so big in the beginning. Uh,

but I mean, listen, if you have the money and you really do understand the LTV, maybe you do. Um, it's all about confidence. Uh, how much confidence that

confidence. Uh, how much confidence that you have. Uh, step three is DM the

you have. Uh, step three is DM the owner. Have you ever thought about

owner. Have you ever thought about selling? Uh, you'd be surprised how many

selling? Uh, you'd be surprised how many people would say, uh, would take the call. Um, next step is, you know, a lot

call. Um, next step is, you know, a lot of these a lot of these folks, as I mentioned, are not really making that much money. Maybe they're making 0 to

much money. Maybe they're making 0 to $500 a month, and they would be open to a fair offer. uh you know five to 10 to 15 to $20,000 and then all of a sudden

you own a direct channel to your exact audience and more importantly it's not a social media account that could be taken away from you at at any point. This is a

yeah a direct line uh that you can go and put links to and if you want to put your product in there and say come buy my product you know it's going to get seen unlike places uh like social media

that could suppress your reach over time. So I think this is something that

time. So I think this is something that not a lot of people think of so I definitely wanted to throw it throw it in there. Um the last strategy is uh

in there. Um the last strategy is uh thinking about uh AI building an AI content repurposing engine. So

the way I think about it is this. You

can think about uh creating one, you know, hero or pillar piece of content.

That could be a podcast episode, a YouTube video, a long blog post, an essay. Um, and that one piece of content

essay. Um, and that one piece of content ends up becoming uh a lot more. You know, it could be 50, 75, you know, 20, depends how much you

want to get out of it. So, you can actually use AI to take that pillar content, turn it into five to 10, you know, tweets, three to five LinkedIn posts, two to three short form videos,

one newsletter. And the short form

one newsletter. And the short form videos would be using like a reotion uh skill uh on something like a cloud code um you know a newsletter edition a

blog post 5 to 10 quote graphics that you can use creative LLMs go and create for you email sequences and a lot of this stuff can actually you know for the people into openclaw they can go and

automate with openclaw you can also use um just cloud dispatch and and I think uh you know claude co-work um perplexity computer, any of these to go and

automate some some of this stuff for you. The big the big idea here is you

you. The big the big idea here is you get one thing that'll equal a bunch of different contents and that gives you way more touch points across uh multiple

platforms. Um so if you want to get that started this week, um you know, I I I would suggest just starting recording like one 30 minute piece of content. It

could be a podcast, could be a video, or just a voice memo. it's way harder to actually go and write a uh 3,000word essay on something. And I just find if

you just voice memo something or you do a podcast uh can be like it could also just be an internal podcast or just a like literally a video of you that you

don't end up putting out and that like the actual value is in the you know the repurposing that AI is going to do. Uh

you're going to want to transcribe it.

You can drop the translation into cloud.

turn this into five tweet threads, three LinkedIn posts, and one newsletter. Um,

obviously it needs to be set up properly. Obviously,

properly. Obviously, uh, you know, there's you you're going to get slop by default, so you have to optimize to not

slop. And a part of that is having a

slop. And a part of that is having a really good brand and reference images.

A part of that is, you know, setting routines. So, it's going, you know, and

routines. So, it's going, you know, and researching, you know, different topics and adding to what you have. Part of it is uh part of it is knowing what skills and

having those skills you know implemented. Um but you know you can get

implemented. Um but you know you can get started by just by just getting started and then schedule across platforms. Um if you do this every week I think in 3 months you'll have more content than

your competitors. You know your

your competitors. You know your competitors are not putting out this amount of of amount of content. They

just really aren't. And where we are with content just, you know, in 2026 is because of for you pages. Um, you know, you c you never know when you can go

viral in your niche. Um, and you don't need a lot of followers to start. You

just need a lot of shots on net. So,

this is kind of like a shots on net strategy. And I don't know why more

strategy. And I don't know why more people aren't, you know, building this out. So those are the seven strategies,

out. So those are the seven strategies, growth strategies that, you know, I think are interesting and that I think, you know, I would pay attention to if I

was vibe coding something, if I wanted to build a business, if I wanted customers to that business, if I wanted to build a growth engine. Um, code used to be the moat. I think by now, maybe by the end of this, you you understand that

uh distribution is the new moat, right?

It's the most important thing is distribution. you know it's scarce right

distribution. you know it's scarce right AI can't build it product is really important but it you know in lots of ways it is commoditized and code is

fully commoditized so I've given you seven distribution weapons uh just to summarize I've given you MCP servers so let AI sell for you I've

given you programmatic SEO 10,000 pages in a weekend I've given you free tool the tool is your marketing I've given you answer engine optimization be the

source AI I sites. I've given you viral artifacts, make your output sharable.

I've given you buy a newsletter, acquire the audience, and I've given you AI repurposing engine, one pillar, and seven channels. So, pick two of them.

seven channels. So, pick two of them.

Start this week. Don't just vibe code.

Um, I want to see you get customers, make money, grow from there, reinvest, have fun. Um, and I'm h, you know, I

have fun. Um, and I'm h, you know, I wanted to do this because, like I said, I want I want I don't want you just to to be to be, you know, vibe coding stuff

and no one's seeing it. And I think there's too many people doing that. Um,

so if this is interesting, like I said, let me know and I can do more of these.

I have tons of strategies that I use. I

can go deeper in the future. Um, I'm

here to help you. um the Startup Ideas podcast like I I I am here to help you get uh increase your odds of success with good ideas, growth tactics, startup

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