Taylor Swift Talks Travis Kelce's Proposal, Addresses Selena Gomez, Ed Sheeran & Super Bowl Rumors

Thank you too much! That was... The big... I know that you guys... We

have to let her talk. Sorry, we have to. Oh, it was so nice. That

was incredible. Wow. That's the loudest intro in the history of The Tonight Show. You

guys are the best. They're the best crowd. Everyone in here. Yeah, they're the best.

I feel like I'm back at the Aeros tour. Yeah, I mean, come on.

Let's talk about Life of a Showgirl is out now. It went to number one.

It is the biggest streaming day for any album released this year across all platforms,

including Amazon, Apple, Spotify, every platform, number one. Congratulations. That's all you guys have.

How does it feel to have this out in the world? I mean, yes. I'm

so excited about, like... This was sort of a surprise and a secret that I

had been carrying around for a year, and I was so excited. It's like when

you're like, I got a really great Christmas present from my brother, but you have

it for a year. And so it's really exciting that, you know, they have opened

the present and they are playing with the toy. It's

fantastic. Like, this has just been, like, I think the most... well-matched

era in terms of where my life was when I wrote it and then where

I am now when it's out in the world. I feel exactly the same way

as I did when I wrote and recorded these songs. It's like... Oh, because sometimes

you put out an album. Sometimes you write, like, the Torture Poets Department. Like, the

name didn't lie. I was like... I wrote that song, and I was just, like,

miserable. Yeah. And then when I put it out, I was like... I'm so happy

now. So I just, like, release week meant just, like, putting my phone in a

drawer, you know? Like, I was just like, you know, this feels so special because,

like, with my albums, I love to kind of, you know, showcase sort of, like,

aspects of my personality that are in the extreme, right? Like, Torture Poets Department, my

last album, was really highlighting the facets of me that are, like, a writer that's,

like, earnest and stoic and raw and sort of like the sprawling part of

it where the part of me that wants to just be like, I'm just going

to write everything and give you everything I wrote. Raw. Right? Raw and like pain

and just excruciating detail. And then there's this like,

that was the character of the poet and this I wanted to be the character

of the showgirl, which is like other aspects of a person's personality where you're like,

you're like, funny and feisty and, like, and, like, having a

blast and flirty and sort of tongue-in-cheek and a little scandalous and, like,

friendly. Yes! We're feeling all of it. By the way, I have to

say, because I'm getting blinded, congratulations on your engagement. Oh, thanks. Thanks.

Wow! Can I see? Yeah, of course. Oh, my Lord. Can we look just at

the camera? Thank you. Taylor, that is

insanity. He put a lot of work into that one. He did. He did. And

he had it for a really long time before he gave it to me, too.

He did? Yeah, so he had it like he custom did this and designed it

with this amazing jeweler who he made it with. It's gorgeous. Even the sides are

beautiful. I know. I know. I look at it constantly. Like, it's not...

It doesn't feel in any way normal for me. I'm just sort of like, oh,

man. Whoa. But it's like, it's more than that. It's like, I just, like... He's

just my favorite person I've ever met. No offense to everyone else. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But the fact that this is the person that I get to hang out with

every day forever is just, like... That's the whole thing of it. You look at

that and you're like, I'm going to hang out with him forever. And this represents

that. That's the win, yeah. Well, I know that you did his podcast, New Heights,

which, by the way, I have done. And since I've done his podcast, they've won

every game. Yeah, you know what? Don't think I didn't notice that. Thank you. Yeah.

I don't want to thank you. I don't want any credit. Let's just act like

it didn't happen. Yeah, let's not jinx anything. Let's sort of... But... But it did

happen. It did happen. We have to acknowledge certain superstitious, you know, things that cause

a streak of winning. Yes. It's game day. My head is very much there. Yes,

you are. So thank you for acknowledging that. No, no, I was going to bring

out the podcast only because you did the podcast to announce and reveal your album

title. Yes. And then after that podcast, I think it was, I think I'm right

about this. It might be another rumor about you. But... He went and you got

engaged right after the podcast. Yes. So basically, I think for Travis, the podcast

was just sort of like a distraction sort of ruse to keep me not looking

out the windows of the house. It was all happening? Was the backyard normal when

you got there? I don't. Every time he does the podcast, it's not like he,

like, blacks out all the windows. It's like, the drape is, like, fully, like, just

blackout drapes on every single window of the whole house. Yeah, you're like, honey, this

is real secretive. He is so serious about this, and I really appreciate that. But

then, afterward, I kind of realized, like, he's walking around sort of

nervous about the podcast. He's like, my heart is racing. I just really want, I

know how much this means to you. Like, really want this to be what you

want. hoped it would be, because we'd been talking about doing the podcast and announcing

the album. And he's like, just my heart's racing. I've never seen this dude nervous.

Ever. Of course he's not nervous about the podcast. He's professionally not a nervous person.

He's like, I wonder what questions I'm going to ask you. I know one. I

know one. I know one question that I'm going to ask. I know the big

one. But I can't get to that yet. Yeah, I was like, and so

he was like, do you want to go and just walk around the backyard and

have a glass of wine. I'm like, I'm always going to want to do that.

That's good. Always bad. And then I realized exactly why all of the

windows were curtained and why he was nervous. Yeah. Look at this right here. It

was the best possible case scenario. Look at that. Look at this. That's what he

was turning the backyard into. This is gorgeous. Like a secret garden. So beautiful.

You've had a giant, giant year. A lot of things to celebrate. You have the

number one album. You got engaged. You also finally got the masters.

You control all of your masters.

The Roots know. Amir knows. We're all just out here in this crazy,

insane music industry. And the fact that this happened still feels

absolutely outlandish to me. Because I kind of had made peace with the fact that

I was going to re-record my music. I was going to try to replicate these

songs as accurately... And exactly as possible. And that was just what I was going

to do because nobody had ever given me the opportunity to bid on my work

before. So I was used to feeling whenever I would see one of my music

videos that I'm really proud of from those first six albums or when I would

see like an album cover of mine or hear one of the older songs, I

get so sad. And I had to sort of... create this protective layer of like

not really letting them in, like not really like, Oh, there's one of my music

videos. Don't really look at it. Don't get sad. Don't let it ruin your day.

Um, cause you don't own it. You never will. And that's, and you just have

to make peace with that. So it's actually, I've had to reroute my entire

absorption system of my own work to be just stoked whenever I see any of

it. And it was the best feeling in the world. Thank you guys for caring

about this at all. Listen to it all. Yes.

Love it all. And every time you hear it, you go, I remember where I

was when I recorded it. I remember where I wrote it. Yes. And now you

get to go back down memory lane. But then you also, that you re-recorded it

was also historic and cool. That was really fun. I had a blast. That was

awesome. You had a time. It was awesome that you did. It really was fun.

And it was like, I know that these are not conversations that have typically been

had outside of, you know, behind closed doors, conference room, contract negotiations, sort

of inside the music industry type spaces. And the

fact that when I did say to the fans, like, this is something I care

about, I know you don't have to care about this. It may not be something

that you have really, like, absorbed yourselves in or, like... But the fact that the

fans cared... It means the world to me. I know that it was a new

topic of conversation to share publicly. Every artist doesn't have to care about owning their

music. But I just wanted them to, like, know that this is a thing. And

if you do care about it, negotiate to have it. Get in there. And you're

already doing it. You're inspiring hundreds of thousands of artists to do that. Yeah. And

it's really cool that you did that and that you were honest and let us

in kind of a little peek behind the curtain of what The business is. We

don't... Like a huge peak behind the curtain. I was like, ah! Like, just all

the... All the monsters came out. Like, yeah. I thought we could do something kind

of fun here. Because you're Taylor Swift and you make a lot of headlines, there's

a lot written about you on the Internet every day. Some of it is very

hard to tell what's true. And I thought we could have a little fun with

this. All right. Okay, so what I'm going to do is... Oh, my God. No.

I'm going to read some rumors. that I heard about Taylor Swift. Wait, so what

is this for? It's just because it looks cool. What is it? Do you know

what this does and when I am supposed to? Yes. You're supposed to press it.

Wait, no, no, not yet. But I think you press it when we're all done.

I'll go back through other rumor and you press it if that one is true.

So you're going to say things that are true and false and you're going to,

are you? Is this like two truths and a lie where you guess? Yes. Oh,

I can do that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I like that. So we're basically playing too

true for a lie. Yes. One of these is true. One of these things are

true, but everything else is false. That's correct. All right, here we go. Taylor Swift,

you turned down the Super Bowl halftime show because the NFL wouldn't allow you to

own your performance footage.

Okay. We're going to go through this five rumors. Interesting. Interesting.

Rumor two. Your close friend, Ed Sheeran, learned

about your engagement like everyone else did on Instagram. That would be

great if that's true. Rumor three. In your speech at

Selena Gomez's wedding, you joked that Selena beat you to the altar.

That's funny. And I know you.

You're funny. I could see that happening. Rumor four, you've been spotted walking a mystery

dog in Florida. This is true. This is on the Internet.

You are walking a dog that's not your dog, and it's a mystery dog. And

by the way, I think that might be the true one, but who knows?

Travis Kelsey can be heard harmonizing on Opalite.

All right, I said five rumors about you. One of them is true. And you

are guessing now which one you think is the true one. And what happens if

that is not true? If I'm correct. Do I get to throw a marker or

something? No, no, no. Nothing happens. What if it's true, then you hit the buzzer?

Okay. And I just sit here. Well, hopefully I'll get the right one. What if

I'm correct? Okay, yeah, yeah. You could get it first. Or we could run through

the rumors. Let's do that. Then we could maybe run through the rumors and see

why the rumors. This is the most

incredible. What are the rules of this game? You've never played Two Truths and a

Lie, so you basically guess. But I don't know if there are two truths. I

think it's one truth. There's one truth and a bunch of falses. This is called

Four Lies and a Truth. Okay, so I should have this. It's false. Okay, or

you hit that if it's false. There's more of a chance that it's going to

be false if there's one truth in there. And I love a buzzer. Okay.

You can take this home with you. it's true, I'm sorry I've taken this over.

No, I love this. But if it's true, I can say, that's true. Alright. Alright,

the name of this game is called That's True. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Or you could call it That's So True, which is

my favorite Gracie Abrams song. And then you could play it with other people. Okay.

Okay. That's so true. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Alright. I'm gonna say the rumor that

I think is true. Super Bowl, I don't think that you would about footage or

something that was too you don't care about that so you wait hold on I'm

gonna say my truth I think my truth Ed Sheeran is funny wait wait but

I think you're closer to him hold on yeah I didn't guess what when I

say this is the truth you're working through this in your inner monologue that we're

hearing a little bit of correct okay I love this I'm working my inner monologue

out loud yeah yeah it's like you know it's not mystery dog your process is

your process it's not mystery dog Travis can be heard harmonizing. I don't think he

would want to do that. I think he would want you to have your moment

to shine. The Selena Gomez one, I feel like that's funny.

And I feel like you say, hey, you beat me to the altar. I'm going

to say Selena Gomez is true, that you were at Selena Gomez's wedding, and you

joked, hey, you beat me to the altar. It's false.

What is the rules? Wait, what are the rules? The game is not, it's false.

The game is, it is, what is the game called? I don't know. Sorry, that's

false? Yeah. So you never said that? Well, I, so I got to see her

be the most elegant, gorgeous, not, not only bride, but just vision that I've ever

seen in my life. I've never seen anything so beautiful as her on her wedding

day. I love her. And she deserves. And Benny. All of this happiness, Ben, he

is him. The best. He is so funny. He's the best. He's the best. So

I did make a speech, but I actually made a point not to mention

anything about my engagement. Nobody wants you to be like, hey, I know this is

your wedding day, but like, you know, like, I was like, don't mention it.

Like, maybe turn it around. Do you know what I mean? This is her day.

I did do some... some light teasing about the way that we used to dress

in 2008, the year that we met. Because we met when we were teenagers in

2008. It was quite a year. Let me tell you, it was the year of

deep, deep V-necks. Was it deep? I just go into, like... Very deep,

deep. The Gilded Age. Deep, deep. I love the Gilded Age. Me too, the Gilded

Age. Don't even get me started. It was the year of aggressively colorful skinny

jeans. LAUGHTER Everyone was walking around saying things were amazeballs.

Mrs. Astor hated it. Oh, my God, that nailed it right there. So, basically, Selena

used to, like, her favorite outfit back then was, like, a very long tank top,

skinny jeans. They know it. But, like, a tiny little vest. Like a tiny, the

smallest vest. And, and chucks. And that was her, like, uniform of that year. And

mine was that I just always looked like I was, like, late for the Cal

boy themed junior prom. And so I talked a little bit about

2008. I talked about how happy I am for her and how just beautiful it's

been to get to be a part of her life. But I did not make

it about me. Okay, good. All right, then I'm going to have my second guess

here. And I'm going to say, I think it'd be funny if Ed Sheeran learned

about your engagement on Instagram. That's so true.

Oh, no! I have a perfect explanation. Oh, no! He

doesn't have a phone. He doesn't have a phone. Did he write a whole album

about an old phone that he had or something? But he doesn't have one that

works. Yes, true. That is true. So he doesn't have a phone, and this is,

like, one thing I love about him. It's very eccentric. Love it. But when I'm

going through being like, hey, like, you know, hey, who should we call? All my

peeps. Who should we FaceTime? I'm going through my texts and being like, who have

I texted within the last, like, month of my life? And he just wasn't there.

Because you have to, like, you have to, like... How do you get a hold

of him? The bat signal? You have to email him, and then you want to...

Instead of FaceTiming, he has to find an iPad. They have to give it to

him like he's a child that they give the iPad to. Yes, and he watches

an episode of Bluey, and then... This is one of my absolute favorite people on

the planet. I know, that's why I didn't get that. And then when the news

came out, I was like, oh, my God, we forgot to call Ed! Oh, no!

That's my favorite. Yeah, he's like family. Of course. Like, I love him, but he

doesn't have a phone. Ugh. So that is the true one. So you didn't turn

down the Super Bowl because of performance footage? No. Okay. No, no. Well, here's the

thing. Like, Jay-Z has always been very good to me. Yes. Our teams are really

close. Like, it's like they sometimes will call and say, how does she feel about

this? Yeah. And... And that's not like an official offer or an official, or like

a conference room conversation. It's just a feeling out. Like, our teams are really close.

How does she feel about it in general? And we've been, we're always able to,

like, tell him the truth, which is that, like, I am in love with a

guy who does that sport on that actual field. Like, that is violent chess. That

is gladiators without swords. That is dangerous. I am... the whole season, I

am locked in on what that man is doing on the field. Can you imagine

if, like, he's out there every single week, like, putting his life on the line,

doing this very dangerous, very high-pressure, high-intensity sport? And I'm like,

I wonder what my choreo should be. Oh, my gosh, honey. Let me have one

thing. Let me have one thing. I think we should do two verses of Shake

It Off into Blank Space, into... Krill Summer would be great. Like, it's just like

this is, and this is nothing to do with Travis. He would love for me

to do it. I'm just too locked in. Good. Like, yeah. Love hearing that. All

right. And then Travis is not harmonizing on Opalite. He's not. No.

No. And you've not been spotted walking a mystery dog in Florida. That was an

odd one. I have never walked a dog in Florida or maybe ever.

But the internet is saying it. You have. That's why I wrote it down. I

know. I didn't do that, though. It's not true. All right, there you go. They

should be able to run free. Let them free. Let them loose, right? They come

back. Don't they come back? That's the cool thing about dogs. All right. You call

them, and they just come back. They come back to you. That's not true at

all. And I'm going to call it. If you love your dog. Let them free.

That's not true at all. Let it roam. If it loves you, too, it will

come back. to you. All right. We're going to take a commercial break. In the

meantime, we're going to call Ed Sheeran and say hi to him. Check in. Guys,

thank you for doing that. More with Taylor Swift when we come back.