The Tube Screamer: A Short History
By five watt world
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Maxon, Not Ibanez, Designed the Tube Screamer**: While Ibanez sold the Tube Screamer, the pedal's design and initial manufacturing were handled by Maxon, a Japanese company that also sold identical pedals under its own brand. [02:24] - **Tube Screamer's Symmetrical Clipping is Key**: Due to a patent held by Boss on asymmetrical clipping, Maxon used symmetrical clipping for the Tube Screamer, resulting in a smoother distortion than asymmetrical clipping. [04:25] - **Early Tube Screamers Had Weak Sales**: Despite its iconic status, the original TS808 had weak initial sales, with its price list appearance delayed and its initial list price of $50 equating to $150 in 2020 dollars. [03:30] - **Stevie Ray Vaughan Popularized the TS9**: While Stevie Ray Vaughan used various Tube Screamers, his extensive use of the TS9 from the early to mid-80s significantly boosted its popularity, especially after his death. [08:23] - **Component Variance Affects Tube Screamer Tone**: Parts used in Tube Screamers, like gain pots, can have significant variations (e.g., 514k vs. 468k ohms), leading to noticeable tonal differences between units, especially in early TS9s. [07:23] - **Chip Debate: Negligible or Essential?**: While some believe the specific IC chip is crucial to the Tube Screamer's sound, JHS Pedals founder Josh Scott argues the chip is 'extremely negligible' and the circuit itself defines the pedal. [13:26]
Topics Covered
- The Unseen Architect: Maxon's Legacy Behind Ibanez
- Innovation Born from Limitation: The Tube Screamer's Unique Voice
- How Guitar Legends Shaped the Tube Screamer's Iconic Status
- Economic Forces Drove Tube Screamer Design and Quality
- Is the "Holy Grail" Chip Overrated in Pedal Tone?
Full Transcript
hi miss Keith Williams welcome to five
art world urns to help you get the most
music from the least gear what Eric
Johnson Trey Anastasio Brad Paisley the
edge Joe Bonamassa Kirk Hammett John
Mayer Buddy Guy see you Billie Joe
Armstrong Michael Schenker and Stevie
Ray Vaughan have in common across genres
and decades all of you is the tube
screamer overdrive pedal no other pedal
has had a greater impact on guitar music
and launched more pedal designer's
careers than the ubiquitous tube
screamer to understand why the screamer
is still at the heart of many guitar
players rigs stay tuned because this is
the five watt world short history of the
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do some history in 1908 the who Sheena
shoten bookstore opened its doors for
the first time in Nagoya Japan selling
sheet music in addition to books they
quickly expanded into selling musical
instruments creating a new division of
the company Hoshino gawky 10 and in 1929
that began importing Spanish guitars
made by luthier Salvador Ibanez by 1935
they'd taken over building the guitars
for Salvador Ibanez and in 1957 they
shortened their company name creating
the Ibanez brand have you ever wondered
how a Japanese instrument company had a
Spanish name yeah so if I and it took my
research on the origin of the tube
screamers to learn the answer of course
the tube screamer would come much later
well not the first overdrive it was the
first overdrive of its kind and the
classic pedal has become almost
synonymous with the term overdrive if I
say to a guitarist tubescreamer green
they know exactly what I mean but in the
midst of this tribute to the ibanez tube
screamer it's easy to overlook the fact
that Ibanez didn't actually design the
tube screamer by the 1960s Ivan had come
to be known for building high quality
copies of famous guitars by fender
Gibson and Rickenbacker and what we now
refer to as the lawsuit era in the 70s
Ibanez added a line of effects pedals
and manufactured by a company called
nishan own PHA another company in Japan
that had been founded in 1971 who had
built some of Ivan as his guitar pickups
they cut a deal with where nishan would
design and manufacture the pedals and
Ibanez would sell them under the Ibanez
brand all the while allowing nishan to
sell otherwise identical pedals under
their own brand name nishan chose the
brand name
Maxon and they were willing to do this
because they lacked the international
marketing and distribution system that
Ibanez had already built with their
instrument sales confused yet yeah yeah
me too
but it's simple really from 1979 until
such 2002 it was Maxon who manufactured
the tubescreamer pedal that they had
created for Ibanez max ons Susumu Tamura
designed the tube screamer and the first
ones hit the market as the Ibanez ts808
and the max on OD 808 concurrently in a
recent guitar player energy celebrating
the 40th anniversary of the pedal to
mortar said that the challenge was
designed a pedal that didn't
fundamentally change the tone of the
guitar that there would be a noticeable
effect but with a softer distortion the
idea is that you increase the level one
pedal and it adds a pleasant distortion
to the signal as well as sustained edge
and harmonic liveliness while preserving
the innate tone of the guitar in
hindsight it's interesting to note that
sales of the original 808 like many
other innovations in the industry were
pretty weak you would think it'd be
simple to find out what the original
list price was for the tsa o8 but hours
of internet searching and help from the
guys on the forums left me to find the
original price list on sale on reverb
always trust commerce right with print
timelines as they were back then the
pedal was released and shipped in 79 but
the 808 wouldn't appear in the Ibanez
price list until May of 1980 the list
price was $50 which equates to one
hundred and fifty dollars in two
thousand twenty dollars by the way the
current ts808 reissue lists for $179
according to John Lomas former product
manager for Ibanez the tube screamer
found its unique voice in a limitation
despite the name a tube screamer does
not distort the signal in a way that a
traditional tube amp does which is with
asymmetrical clipping where the
waveforms are not clipped equally at the
top and the bottom
at the time of the design rollin boss
held a patent on solid state
asymmetrical clipping which left max on
to use symmetrical clipping generally
the symmetrical clipping is smoother
than asymmetrical clipping Lomas
explained quote if you look at the
schematic between a tubescreamer and a
boss od1 they're almost exactly the same
thing
the original boss overdrive was designed
to be a tube simulator which was a
really big thing back then because of
course most amplifiers were starting to
get away from tubes there were
solid-state and they really sounded like
[ __ ] so there was a market for tube
simulation pedals I believe that's why
the tooth Kramer was named the tube
screamer
but according to designer Tamura the
name was suggested by Sammy ash the
grandson of Sam ash of Sam Ash music
stores a m-- Tamura and others visited
the store on West 48th Street in
Manhattan to get feedback on the new
design prior to the launch as a young
member of the family business Sammy was
more familiar with pedals and so the
family asked two more to meet with him
they were also demoing an amplifier at
the time and when they hooked it up it
made a screaming sound Sammy asked do
you know how the crybaby pedal got its
name yes tomorrow replied it sounds like
a crying baby and Sammy said this sounds
like a screaming tube amp and so
according to Tamura that's how the
original 808 was named the tube screamer
overdrive Pro though the 808 circuit
shared much with the boss 81 it also had
a tone control and it featured a jrc 455
8 d op-amp IC or integrated circuit
operational amplifier it also had the
now iconic small foot switch lomis
recounted that the 808 was the first
pedal he'd seen with an IC in it all the
previous overdrive circuits had been
built around transistors Lomas likes to
credit the sweet vocal mid-range of the
8 away with that particular chip and
it's why he and many others prefer the
sound of the original 808 due to the
slow early sales an unforeseen sourcing
issue that came up around the AOA
it was soon redesigned the company that
built the small button switch on the 808
housing stopped producing them and
subsequently the pedal needed to be
revamped in 1982 the ts9 came out and
many were glad for the changes along
with a new bigger foot switch generally
the ts9
is thought to be a bit brighter sounding
a little less smooth and have a bit more
output with these changes sales improved
an original price list from 1984 that I
found on Ibanez rules website shows that
the ts9 originally listed for $75 which
equates to a $185 in 2020 dollars
unfortunately the original TS 9s
produced from 82 through 84 suffered
from randomly sourced parts and could
vary wildly from unit to unit this is
probably a good time to remind folks
that many parts used in the manufacture
of pedals and amplifiers have a
tolerance of plus or minus 10 to 20%
Bryan wampler did a cool video on why
each TS pedal can sound so different
here he measures to gain pots picked at
random from a batch on his bench these
are both 500k audio taper pots now how
do you measure a pot you measure the
outside lugs so well let's do that pot
number if I can get it to hold still pot
number one 514 thousand ohms pot number
two and I just pulled these from the
drawer to four hundred and sixty eight
thousand ohms okay so that's that's a
fairly big difference in if this would
be the game pot that's a fairly big
difference in addition to the standard
variations the TS 9s were also built
with parts from various suppliers so
each batch of TS 9s went out the door
with wildly varying tones due to still
disappointing sales the first run TS 9s
were dropped by 85 ironically interested
in the AOA and TS 9s was quietly growing
in the underground blues and rock world
mainly due to the recordings of one of
Central Texas most beloved Sons Stevie
Ray Vaughan Texas Flood released in 83
climbed to 38 on the charts but by the
time family style was released one month
after Stevie's tragic death in 1990 the
record had climbed to seventh certifying
SRV as a genuine guitar hero in 91 the
release of the sky is crying also went
into the top
I clearly remember standing in at the
guitar works while that record played in
the background I was floored I just
stood there I went over to the owner
Chris and I said what is this he gave me
one of his big mustache smiles and
schooled me on Stevie Ray Vaughan is
known to have used ATO a it's early on
but based on majority of stage photos
live videos insurance and custom records
it's clear that he is TS 9s from 82
through most of the 80s Vaughn famously
used the ts9 as a clean solo boosts
pushing the front of his amp or amps
depending on his ever-changing rig so
with the level turned all the way up
he'd set the overdrive low and make his
magic after moving to the TS tens in
1988 he'd often Dow the gain hotter
along with the level pushing his dumbo
and Marshall amps harder generating more
Distortion
after the nine series pedals Ibanez
released a new series of pedals that
they called the master series with no
pedals named the tube screamer in the
line but the line did include a pedal
with a tube screamer cell circuit and a
two band EQ but this line lasted for
just one year in 1986 Ivan has released
the tube screamer classic TS 10 as part
of the 10 series of pedals the new TS 10
claimed a new high fidelity quieter
circuit that eliminated the chirp that
some of the original screamers emitted
when all the controls were turned up
unfortunately for the TS 10 many blues
and rock players had started to snap up
the original 808 and TS 9 so under the
impression that these were what SRV had
used most often debate about what Stevie
used rages on gear forums but his guitar
tech ranae Martinez has said in many
places that over three pedals Stevie
favored the TS 10 this may well account
for John Mayer's loving use of the TS 10
as Martinez now serves as Mayer's guitar
tech and those two items together
account for the rising price of TS 10s
in the used market despite the
popularity of use TS 10s brought on by
Mayer's use noted tube screamer expert
analog man Mike piera said that he's
never liked them quote they used cheap
proprietary parts jacks switches and
pots that often break and can't be
replaced
because the sturdy parts used in
handmade hand wired pedals like the TS 9
won't fit they have circuit boards that
have all these parts mounted on them
that break off just so they could make
these pedals chief
with machine soldering the TS tens were
the first tube screamers did not be
built by max on having instead been
built in Taiwan and if you want to crawl
deep into the details of screamers you
can do no better than to refer to analog
man's extraordinary history of the
circuit and the pedals in general it
left a circuit down foot like me reading
and rereading sections trying to glean
the wheat from the chaff
one was from Ibanez explains that the
economy impacted the quality of
manufacturing in those years in the
early 80s the yen was still very strong
to the dollar this favorable exchange
rate meant that they could make
high-quality products and still be
assured of making a profit but by 85 the
yen had weakened and Ibanez had to start
worrying about how to make things less
expensively but still be able to make a
profit in the US market in 1991 Ibanez
launched the sound tank line of effects
they set out to capture the sound of the
original vintage units with cheaper
costs and modern manufacturing
techniques the resulting ts5 was not
hand wired like the 808 and ts9 and it
came out in a high-impact plastic case
rather than a metal case though the
circuit is a throwback to the earlier
circuits it was built by the time we
needs manufactured F on and it had
smaller less expensive components given
the growing popularity the original 808
and TS 9s in the EU's market it seemed
inevitable that a reissue would come
along Lomas spent a lot of time
convincing Ibanez in Maxon that a
reissue ts9 would be a strong seller in
the marketplace this was in 1990 and the
world was moving towards all things
digital and that's where the company
wanted to go ironically now we've seen
this swing all the way around to where
Maxon is producing high-quality
reproductions of most of their original
analog 9 series pedals
it's interesting to note that at the
same time that Mack's on an ibanez were
debating about producing reissues both
fender and Gibson were doing their best
to produce high quality reissues of
their original instruments themselves
for context the Fender Custom Shop
opened in 1987 and the Gibson Custom
Shop opened in 93 at the beginning of
the reissue project
Maxon bought up as many vintage TS 9s as
they could and as they examine the parts
they found that they almost all of them
had the Toshiba ta 750 55:8 IC chip
rather than the j RC chip that had been
used in the ato eights so they settled
on using the Toshiba chip for the
reissue
it'll probably fuel the comment fires to
say that not everyone believes that the
magic of these pedals lies in the
specific chip no less pedal guru than
Josh Scott of JHS pedals had this to say
in an interview on reverb around the
time he brought out his buns I which is
nine tube screamers in one pedal and is
there a Holy Grail chip in your mind and
in my preference in my opinion I think
the chip is extremely negligible to the
sound of the circuit oh I can feel
things I can I feel it I think it's very
negligible some people have shown that
there I'm not gonna sit here and tell
another guitar player that they can't
feel it or hear it but it's not changing
a tube screamer in the amount that it
has been made over to be in my opinion I
think a chip doesn't make a pedal the
circuit makes the pedal and the chip is
part of a circuit upon the reissue Maxon
made a point of emphasizing that they
brought manufacturing back to Japan
saying that the reissues were built
quote in the same factory by the same
middle-aged ladies unquote that had
built the originals a decade earlier as
a side note
Maxon is still building their pedals in
that same factory today the reissue was
a complete clone of the originals they
even reprinted the original manual from
1981 and put that right in the box
within weeks of the release more than
5,000 units were sold and Ibanez says
that they'd guess that they sell between
10 and 12,000 units each year the
immediate success of the TS 9 reissue
pointed directly to the potential market
for a deluxe tube screamer of sorts and
in 1998 the 4 knob ts9 DX the turbo tube
screamer was released in addition to the
overdrive level and tone controls
there's an additional mode knob the mode
knob provides settings from the original
ts9 and three additional modes with
increasing amounts of volume and bass
response the modes were labeled ts9 plus
hot and turbo the turbo circuit is the
same as the original TS 9s but the mode
switch changes certain components
parameters via clipping diodes and tone
capacitors the plus mode is grittier
than the original TS 9 while the hot
mode is crunchy ER with even more
boosted mids
and finally the turbo mode produces a
modern sound that's thick and the most
powerful in 2002 Ibanez moved away from
using Maxon as a manufacturer of the
tube screamer and Maxon continuing on
its own producing the pedals under its
own name as they had all along in the
past two decades there's been several
additional variants starting with the
ts7 tone lock which ran from 2000 to
2010 the ts808 reissue was launched in
2004 and is still being produced as is
the newer ts808 HW a hand wired tube
screamer which debuted in 2008 in 2011
Ibanez released the ts9 be specifically
designed for bass with a full tube and
eq and a mix control a respectable it is
a special impact on the mid-range that
typifies the sound of a tube screamer it
rolls off some low-end and a bit of
high-end as well often described as
smoothing the top-end lomas put it
simply saying that quote it's still one
of the best things to overdrive any tube
amplifier with it just as magical things
- tubes so who's used tubes creamers and
how did they use them I've read many
times that it might be more Pro Reed
asked who hasn't used a tube screamer
but here's a variety of TS users to
pique your interest stevie ray vaughan
as i mentioned before no one artist
likely did more to cement the TS and a
history of pedals than SRV though it's
wildly debated which he used and/or
preferred it's now generally recognized
that he tried them all out as they
became available so the 808 TS 9 and TS
10 though he used different versions
over the time the way he used them was
pretty consistent turn up the level to
push the front of the amp keep the
overdrive on the low side and crank the
tone to add as much Sparkle as he could
to his fairly dark tone coming off a
strat with heavy strings tuned down to
e-flat Trey Anastasio probably more
known for his semi hollow clean tones
when Trey steps on a pedal for a little
dirt
it's a ts9 actually 2t s 9s set to two
different settings the first being light
overdrive high level and two o'clock
tone for just a touch of hair and sort
of a clean boost the second is the full
monty dimed overdrive dimed level and
the tone set at about the same two
o'clock running into a ross compressor
kirk hammett
this is the one on the list that
surprised me in my research because I
think I Metallica guitar tones as the
iconic scooped metal onslaught but of
course for that very reason the TS 9s
mid-range push is the right medicine to
punch through for a solo Kirk's TS 9s
are often set with a dime to overdrive
mild push on the level and four o'clock
tone all designed to cut through and
fill back in some of the mids not often
found in the two guitar tones of
Metallica the edge when you think of the
edge you immediately hear those chiming
delay Joshua Tree clean tones but when
he goes to overdrive it's most often a
ts9 that light bit of bite is found by
pushing the overdrive to about two
o'clock the level just passed in the
unity gain and the tone rolled back just
a touch to soften the brightness in the
high mids coming from the ts9 eric
johnson ej has long included ao8 in his
rig clearly visible in the rig run down
some pedal board picks circulating on
the internet from those we can see just
what we might expect the tone is rolled
all the way off the overdrive is set
between noon and 1:00 o'clock and the
levels right around unity at noon this
shows that with the level and gain
control set pretty close to neutral the
journal base cut mids forward character
of the pedal is what Eric is embracing
in his 808 Joe Bonamassa though Joe is
running a greatly simplified rig these
days on batteries no less he's had a
long-standing love of tube screamer type
pedals to create his crunch and lead
tones of the few pedals he is using
these days there are TS variants created
for him by his buddy George trips from
way huge done lot by mxr according to
trips in an interview on that pedal show
his overrated special is just what is an
overrated screamer ok the tube screamer
with a 500 Hertz control Joe is often
using the TS pedal to juice both the
drive and the level while also rolling
the tone up to about two o'clock to add
those cutting upper mids any history of
the tube screamer would be incomplete
without talking about the immense impact
of the circuit design on the world of
overdrive pedals almost every discussion
of a new overdrive pedal starts with is
it another tube screamer clone if as
Oscar Wilde put it imitation is the
sincerest form of flattery then the TS
circuit receives never-ending flattery
from the pedal building world
a full debate about what constitutes a
cloned pedal and the politics of that
would fill more than one video so let's
try to keep ourselves restricted to the
parts that made up the original
tubescreamer
it was perhaps the first to incorporate
in an IC chip that chip the Japanese jrc
455 8 is the one that most people often
credit with the majority of pixie dust
sprinkled in the original 808 that IC
chip is responsible for the
characteristic symmetrical clipping of
the input waveform additionally in this
light to medium overdrive pedal we have
FET bypass switching and 3 we finish it
off with transistor buffers at both the
input and the output stages it might be
argued that if you have all these in
place you're looking at a tube screamer
clone at one level or another I'm sure
we've all read endless lists of pedals
considered to be TS clones mistakenly
many of these lists start by listing the
Maxon pedals as the best
tube screamer clones out there hopefully
this video will help folks understand
that the original designers release of
the exact same pedals cannot really be
seen as clones and it might be argued
that you can trace the beginning of many
boutique pedal builders careers to
modding tube screamers so let's look at
some pedals influenced by the TS the JH
s bonzai j chest cut to the chase and
created a pedal that has nine different
screamers in one reverb done a great
video interview with JH s founder Jeff
Scott on the hows and whys of how he did
this I used a bit of it earlier here
where he's talking about the differences
in chips
I found this fascinating because he
talks about why he included some of the
rare RTS style circuits in the pedal the
J rocket blue note a TS style pedal that
is very popular with blues and jazz
players the rocket blue note is
available in two different versions with
slightly different features they share
the fat knob which allow you to dial the
low mid characteristics to fit your rig
the way huge overrated special as I
mentioned when talking about Joe
Bonamassa is use of screamers the way
huge / red special or the double and
special is what's usually up front for
crunch and boost duties with Joe like
many TS versions the innovation here is
the control that they give you over the
all-important mid-range frequencies the
mad professor little green wonder this
pedal came to my attention on an episode
of the true tone lounge where Zack
childs is interviewing guitarist
producer John Leventhal
funny enough John doesn't have it on its
board in the episode but he raves about
it as his favorite overdrive Leventhal
is a player's player and any of his
preferences are worth paying attention
to in my book both the hand wired and
more affordable PCB versions were based
on bjorn joules original BJ Fe design
the Jackson Broken Arrow probably the
most technologically advanced screamer
based pedal out there it provides three
bands of EQ and multiple switchable gain
stages this along with a separate boost
function is available in the double
switches on the front providing a
tremendous range of Ts goodness and uses
Maxon apex 808 Tamura though I said it's
impossible called max on a clone as it
was the original after all I'd be remiss
if I didn't mention something that was
just announced at Winter NAMM 2020 I'd
heard from the guys at godlike max ons
us distributor that Maxim was working
with the original 808 designer
Tamura on an ultimate version pedal to
celebrate the 40th anniversary this
worked stretched on for three years and
though I'm sure they'd rather have
popped it out during 2019 but we'll all
be glad for the extra time they put in
to produce this new apex AOA and would
that soon-to-be-released nugget we're
up-to-date if you feel like I missed
something big or if you have your own
favorite tube screamer story please add
it in the comments
I rely all of you to keep me on my toes
I need to send a thank you out to Zack
Hillman for his excellent article on
reverb on creating tube screamer tones
of famous players I need to thank Brian
wampler for his permission to use the
video clip on his comparison of game
pots to illustrate part variation and
screamers I need to thank Dan Orkin that
reverb for permission to use the clip
from their video on the ghs Banzai we're
just Scott expresses his opinions on
chips one of the things I like about
Josh this is sort of damn the torpedoes
approach to public speaking I'd like to
thank Jackson audio for the permission
to use the music from one of their
broken era videos for the intro and
outro music illustrating the TS goodness
available there and as is often the case
I need to thank Perry McManus and Dave
Onorato for editing another big script
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