Trump discusses leaving NATO with Rutte amid Iran ceasefire

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Andy Mack. We are just about 24 hours since this double-sided ceasefire took place and already both sides are accusing one another of violating the

framework of this deal. And one major component condition for this ceasefire was the opening of the Strait of Hormuz.

For more on this, let's go out right now to Jennifer Griffin with this report.

Been agreed to. What's been stated is the straight is open. Just hours after agreeing to a two-week ceasefire and allowing at least four ships to pass through the straight of Hormuz, Iran state media reported it would block the

strait as long as Israel continues attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon. It also

wants a toll, $1 per barrel passing through the straight. A typical oil tanker carries 2 million barrels. The

White House says President Trump was told privately the straight is open. At

a Pentagon briefing, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs outlined what Operation Epic Fury destroyed after the US military hit 13,000 targets in 38 days.

Sentcom forces destroyed approximately 80% of Iran's air defense systems, striking more than500 air defense targets, more than 450 ballistic missile

storage facilities, 800 one-way attack drones storage facilities. All of these systems are gone. What General Kaine did not mention were the percent of American

weapons stockpiles emptied and costly US war plananes lost. Three F-15E shot down in a friendly fire incident in Kuwait. A

fourth shot down in Iran. One A10 over 16 MQ9 Reaper drones, two MC130J transport planes, and four light special

operations helicopters totaling more than $900 million in losses. I've laid

out the statistics, but it does not truly capture the nature of combat. This

is gritty and unforgiving business.

Sentcom says 50,000 US service members, 16 warships, and a dozen air squadrons are staying.

A ceasefire is a pause, and the joint force remains ready, if ordered or called upon, to resume combat operations. The US military carried out

operations. The US military carried out a closing salvo of 800 air strikes last night in Iran. At the end of 38 days of bombing, Iran still has 900 pounds of

highlyenriched weaponsgrade uranium.

Says it preserves the right to enrichment, has enough drones and missiles to threaten to close the strait. And despite a large number of

strait. And despite a large number of strikes on Iran's leaders, the regime and the IRGC remain in Washington.

Jennifer Griffin, Fox News. And we also know later on this week VP JD Vans Witcom Kushner will participate in some of those negotiations in Islamabad on Saturday morning local time. This

according to the White House press secretary Caroline Levit. Let's be

joined right now by White House correspondent for Reuters Honeyut Trevor Honeyut. Thank you so much for joining

Honeyut. Thank you so much for joining us here on live now from Fox. And we

talk about this the chippiness as defense secretary says it takes time for a ceasefire to take hold. Is the White House still optimistic about this in this two-week time frame?

Well, certainly are. I mean, we heard that

certainly are. I mean, we heard that from Caroline Levit as well today that that that essentially ceasefires are always going to be fragile. Um, and

there's you're going to have to kind of give a little bit of time for this to take effect. So, we'll see if that

take effect. So, we'll see if that happens. You know, I think the broader

happens. You know, I think the broader question here is is just essentially, is this a real is this a real ceasefire? Is

and and do Iranians have the same expectations as the White House about this? Yeah, that is a very big question.

this? Yeah, that is a very big question.

Another question is around Lebanon and whether they are actually involved in all of this. What's the stance by the United States? Because we heard from

United States? Because we heard from Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, saying they're going to continue to strike Hezbollah, the Iranian proxy group. Is Lebanon involved in this? Are

group. Is Lebanon involved in this? Are

there two sides in consensus about that?

The White House says that Lebanon is not a part of this deal and that they've communicated that to all the parties of the ceasefire. Um but that is uh clearly

the ceasefire. Um but that is uh clearly going to be an issue here during these two weeks is is whether Hzbollah which we know is allied with Iran whether

they're going to allow um these attacks to continue without bringing Iran back into this fight.

Yeah, that is a very big question of course that there just north of the Israel border. I do want to ask you

Israel border. I do want to ask you because we do know those negotiations are going to take place later on this week. Again, it's going to be led by VP

week. Again, it's going to be led by VP JD Vance along with Steve Witoff and Kushner, two other names that are very familiar with these talks. How much is that Trump saying in support of JD

Vance? And why do you think he picked

Vance? And why do you think he picked him to take the lead on this?

Well, so it's really interesting to see JD Vance, who's not necessarily been front and center during this war, kind of coming to the floor here and and having a bigger role in this. you know,

it kind of makes sense as the person who was kind of least um, you know, in favor of moving forward with this conflict that he would be the one who would be tasked with kind of bringing it to an

end and bringing it to a close, you know, and so it is an opportunity, I think, politically for for the vice president to come out and and stake his own position about this Iran conflict and and how the US should be handling

this issue going forward. So, I think it's really interesting to see how he's going to be different from Donald Trump on this issue. And we know that there are going to be some sticking points.

The 15-point plan for the United States very different from the 10-point plan from Iran. What could be the main points

from Iran. What could be the main points that these two sides don't see eye to eye on?

Number one is nuclear enrichment, right?

Can Iran move forward with nuclear enrichment? Um, and at what level? And

enrichment? Um, and at what level? And

will the United States tolerate that in any way? That's there's no agreement on

any way? That's there's no agreement on between the sides that that I've seen on that issue. And then also who controls

that issue. And then also who controls the straight of Hormuz? Who is is that now Iran's responsibility? Can they

charge tolls for for for using uh that passageway or not?

Yeah, that is a very big point that energy choke point. We talk about it and that's also a point of contention whether or not it is open. But talking

about some of these negotiations and that nuclear enrichment, is that a red line for the United States that they cannot have enrichment? Is that a go or no go for this Trump administration?

The White House reiterated today that that is a red line, that the president does not want to see nuclear enrichment.

Um, and that he will not agree to any uh deal that allows Iran to develop uh the the file material that they would need for a nuclear bomb.

And you mentioned the straight of our moves. They said it would potentially be

moves. They said it would potentially be unacceptable, Caroline Levit did, if they did not reopen. At what capacity is acceptable for this White House? Is it

just a few tankers? Is it full 100% reopening?

Well, they they said today that they think that the the the Straight of Hormuz should be open fully. Um, which

it clearly is not now. They said that there is more traffic. We have not seen a lot of evidence of a lot of traffic moving through there. But they said they just want it uh free and open at this

point. Um, which it it is not. And and

point. Um, which it it is not. And and

the Iranian statement, you know, clearly couched what they were saying as not free and and clear, right? that that any movement would have to take place in coordination with with Iran. Um, so

we're we're not we're not back to an open straight yet.

And we've seen President Trump his disappointment in other allies, including from NATO. And President Trump on Truth Social saying NATO wasn't there when we needed them, and they won't be there if we need them again. Remember

Greenland, that big, poorly run piece of ice. So obviously he's talked about

ice. So obviously he's talked about Greenland a time or two. But talking

about what's going on in the Middle East, are there conversations happening about the future of NATO and whether the United States will be part?

Absolutely. So the president hosted the secretary general of NATO, Mark Ruda, uh at the White House today. We just heard from Mark Ruda uh within the hour. Um

and he says that the president was very disappointed with NATO and that he expressed that in the private in a private meeting. And Ruda said that he

private meeting. And Ruda said that he understood where Trump was coming from uh to some degree about NATO members not being fully cooperative with the Iran mission even though they they benefited

from the results. Um so clearly there are discussions happening. Ruda was at the White House for over two hours.

Clearly they're having some very detailed discussions about what the future of NATO looks like and what Washington's role in it is going to be.

Is there any movement in terms of NATO helping reopen the straight of Hormuz because the Trump administration doesn't want Iran to control it to have those tolls? Is NATO going to step in in any

tolls? Is NATO going to step in in any capacity and help get tankers through?

So, what what what I've been told by by European officials here is that uh they are not at all ready to join an operation to clear the straight at this time because there's still no clarity that the hostilities have ended. And

that's a key point for them that they don't want to be in an active shooting war here. They'll come into the straight

war here. They'll come into the straight and help uh with the cleanup process, but it needs to be after the war has ended. And I've also heard that they the

ended. And I've also heard that they the European leaders did not tell Mark Ruda to promise Donald Trump that they would be assisting anytime soon.

And just to wrap this up, because a double-sided ceasefire, it has been chippy so far. We've seen lobs of bombs kind of both ways already. This is a delicate ceasefire. What are you

delicate ceasefire. What are you watching over the next few days? And

what would it mean for the United States to snap back and say this thing is over?

We really need from a the global economy, US economy perspective, we need the straight open, right, in terms of where oil prices are. That's really the thing that hits American consumers the

quickest and fastest right in their pocketbooks. And so we really need to

pocketbooks. And so we really need to see movements of tankers and ships through that straight um to really to really see this conflict come to an end.

And then we also need to see, you know, a sessation to the bombings, right? We,

you know, we need to see that that that um Iran is not bombing uh its neighbors um and that they aren't being bombed by by Israel.

Yeah. And obviously everyone coming to the table. So we'll see what it looks

the table. So we'll see what it looks like in Islam to bond with VP JD Vance and others there for those talks. Trevor

Honeyut, thank you so much. appreciate

you talking to her live