젠슨 황의 경고 "더 이상 코딩 배우지 마세요, 대신 '이것'을 배우십시오"
By Colorado Times
Summary
Topics Covered
- AI Reinvents Computing Stack
- AI Five-Layer Stack Drives Infrastructure Boom
- Physical AI Transforms Science Industries
- AI Enhances Jobs Not Eliminates Them
- AI Closes Global Technology Divide
Full Transcript
Good morning everyone. It's really nice to be back here in the Congress Hall.
Hopefully everybody had a good day yesterday and are enjoying it today. It
is my real pleasure to introduce Jensen Wong who is somebody I admire, somebody I've watched and somebody who is been a teacher to me
on the journey of learning about technology and AI.
It is amazing watching how he led Nvidia and um I don't measure myself on on comparisons but I like this one
comparison. So since Dvidia
comparison. So since Dvidia has been public which was in 1999 same year as Black Rockck.
[laughter] Oh boy. Okay. No
Oh boy. Okay. No
uh Nvidia's total return for its shareholders has been a compounded 30 [snorts] 37%.
Just think about that. What would that mean to every pension fund if they invested in Nvidia as an IPO? The the
amount of um successes we have with everybody's retirement. At the same
everybody's retirement. At the same time, uh Black Rockck's annualized uh total return has been 21%. not so bad for a a financial services company but
uh uh it certainly pales and uh and so that but that is just a really great indication of Jensen's leadership the positioning of Nvidia
and also it is a great statement about what the the world believes in the future of Nvidia. So Jensen, congratulations on
of Nvidia. So Jensen, congratulations on that journey and I know we have many more years of that journey ahead of us.
>> Thank you. I appreciate that. My only
regret was at the IPO after the IPO, I wanted to buy my parents something nice and so I sold Nvidia stock at a
valuation of $300 million.
Uh the company was at a valuation of $300 million and I bought them a Mercedes S-Class. It It is the most
Mercedes S-Class. It It is the most expensive car in the world.
[laughter] [snorts] >> They regret it.
>> They still have it.
>> Oh, sure.
>> Yeah, they still have it. Yeah.
>> Good. Let me go into the subject matter now, but I just want to say uh you know, the debate on um on AI
is about how it's going to change the world and the global economy.
Today I want to talk about how AI can add to world to the world economy and how AI can increasingly become a foundational technology
that everyone in this room can be utilizing enhancing our lives, enhancing the lives of everyone in the world.
And we need to talk about how it's going to reshape productivity, labor, infrastructure across virtually every other sector, but importantly, how it's
going to reshape the the the world and how can more segments of the world benefit from AI and how can we ensure that we have a
broadening of the global economy, not a narrowing of the global economy. And I
can't think of another person who has a clearer view on not just what AI is, but the infrastructure around it. The
infrastructure that is necessary to build around it.
And because so many of the major hyperscalers are utilizers of what Nvidia creates and the whole engagement around the
infrastructure around AI, the potential of AI, I think we have a great voice to listen to this afternoon or this morning. So Jensen, once again, thank
morning. So Jensen, once again, thank you. This is his first time here at the
you. This is his first time here at the World Economic Forum in Davos and I know uh you have a really busy schedule. So
it's uh thank you for taking that time.
>> I appreciate that. [clears throat]
>> So let me go right into it.
Why do you believe that AI has the potential to be that significant engine of growth and what makes this moment this technology different than past
technology cycles?
>> Yeah, this is a uh first of all when you when you think about AI and you're interacting with AI in all these different ways. Chad Gypt of course
different ways. Chad Gypt of course using Gemini of course using anthropic claude of course um and the magical things that that it could do. Uh it's
helpful to reason back to the first principles of of fundamentally what is happening to the computing stack. Uh
this is a platform shift. A platform is something where applications are built on top of and this is a platform shift like the platform shift to PCs.
New applications were developed to run on a new type of computer. a platform
shift to the internet, a new type of computing uh platform uh hosted all kinds of new applications, a platform shift to mobile cloud. In each and every
one of these platform shifts, uh the computing stack was reinvented and new applications were created. Uh this is a new platform shift in the sense that
today you're using CH GBT. uh it's
important to understand that itself is an application but very importantly new applications will be built on top of chat GPT new applications will be built
on top of anthropic uh cloud for example and so so it's a it's a platform shift in that way um AI is really easy to understand if you realize what it can do
that you could never do before uh software in the past was effectively pre-recorded it humans would type and describe the the algorithm or the recipe
for the uh computer to execute. Uh it
was able to process structured information, meaning you've got to put the name, the address, you know, their account number, uh their age, where they where they live. You create these
structured tables that software would then go and retrieve information from.
We call it SQL SQL queries. SQL is the single most important database engine the world's ever known. Almost
everything ran on SQL before now. Now we
have a a computer that can understand unstructured information, meaning it could look at an image and understand it. It could look at text and understand
it. It could look at text and understand it. It's completely unstructured. Uh it
it. It's completely unstructured. Uh it
could listen to sound and understand it.
Understand the meaning of it, understand the structure of it, and reason about what to do about it. And so for the first time uh we now have a computer
that is not pre-recorded but it's processed in real time meaning that it's able to take the context of the circumstance whatever the the the
environmental information the contextual information and whatever information you give it. Um, [clears throat] it could
give it. Um, [clears throat] it could reason about what is the meaning of that information and reason about uh your intent which could be described in a
really unstructured way. Uh, we you describe it however you want to describe it. We call it prompts. Um, but you
it. We call it prompts. Um, but you describe it however you like to describe it and to the extent that it can understand your intention, it could uh perform a task for you. Now the
important thing about this is that because we're reinventing that entire computing stack. The question is what is
computing stack. The question is what is AI? You're asked when you think about AI
AI? You're asked when you think about AI you think about the AI models but it's really important to understand industrially AI is actually essentially
a five layer cake. At the bottom is energy.
AI because it's processed in real time and it generates intelligence in real time. It needs energy to do so. Energy
time. It needs energy to do so. Energy
is the first layer. The second layer is the layer that I live in. It's chips.
Chips and computing infrastructure. The
next layer above it is the cloud infrastructure, the cloud, the cloud services. The layer above that is the AI
services. The layer above that is the AI models. This is where most people think
models. This is where most people think AI is. But don't forget that in order
AI is. But don't forget that in order for those models to happen, you have to have all of the layers underneath it.
But the most important layer and this is the layer that's happening right now.
The reason why last year was an incredible year frankly for AI is that the AI models made so much progress that the layer above it which is ultimately
the the layer that we all need to ex to succeed the application layer above that. And so this application layer
that. And so this application layer could be in financial services, it could be in healthcare, it could be in manufacturing. This layer on top
manufacturing. This layer on top ultimately is where economic benefit will happen. But the important thing
will happen. But the important thing though because this computing platform requires all of the layers underneath it. It has started and you guys are
it. It has started and you guys are everybody's seeing it right now. It has
started the largest infrastructure buildout in human history.
[clears throat] We're now a few hundred billion dollars into it.
>> That's it.
>> We're a few hundred billion dollars into it. Uh Larry and I, we get the
it. Uh Larry and I, we get the opportunity to work on many projects together. There are trillions of dollars
together. There are trillions of dollars of infrastructure that needs to be built out. And it's sensible. It's sensible
out. And it's sensible. It's sensible
because all of these contexts have to be processed so that the AI so that the models can generate the intelligence necessary to power the applications that
ultimately sit on top. And so when you go back and when you reason about it layer by layer by layer and you you realize that the energy sector is now
seeing extraordinary growth. The chip
sector TSMC just announced they're going to manufact they're going to build 20 new chip plants. Foxcon working with us and Wishron and Quanta building 30 new
computer plants which then go into these AI factories. So we have chip factories,
AI factories. So we have chip factories, computer factories and AI factories all being built around the world.
>> And memory >> and memory, right? Exactly. Those chip
fabs uh Micron has started investing $200 billion in the United States. SKH
Highix is doing incredibly. Samsung is
doing incredibly you could see that entire chip layer growing incredibly today. And now of course we pay a lot of
today. And now of course we pay a lot of attention to the model layer but it's really exciting that the layer above them is really doing fantastically. And
now one indicator is where are the VC funding going into last year 2025 was one of the largest years in VC funding
ever and last year most of the funding went to what is called AI native companies. These are companies in
companies. These are companies in healthcare. company in robotics in
healthcare. company in robotics in company manufacturing financial services all of the large industries in the world you're seeing huge investments going in to those AI natives because for the
first time the models are good enough to build on top of so let's just dive a little further [clears throat] obviously everybody I'm sure uses their
own chatbot and getting getting information so but you're you're you're talking about the dispersion of AI is going to be the key let's talk about it
like go into a little more upside ideas related to the dispersion of it in the physical world. You mentioned obviously
physical world. You mentioned obviously healthcare is a great example of that but where do you see the transformational opportunities in areas like transportation or science? Well,
last year [clears throat] uh I would say say um last year I would say three major things happened in AI in the AI technology lay the model layer. The
first one is that the the models themselves started out uh being curious and interesting, but they hallucinated a great deal. And last year uh you could
great deal. And last year uh you could you could we can all reasonably accept that these models are better grounded.
They could do research.
Um they can reason about about uh circumstances that maybe they weren't trained on. break it down into
trained on. break it down into step-by-step reasoning steps and come up with a plan to and to answer your your uh question um do your research or
perform the task. So last year we saw the evolution of language models becoming AI systems that we call agentic systems agentic AI. The second the
second major breakthrough is the the breakthrough of open models. Um several
years ago is was it a year ago Deep Seek came out and Deep Seek was uh a lot of people were quite concerned about it.
Frankly, Deepseek was a huge event for most of the industries, most of the companies around the world because it's the world's first open reasoning model.
Uh since then a whole bunch of open reasoning models have have emerged and and uh open models uh has enabled companies and industries, researchers,
educa educators, re you know universities, startups uh to be able to use these uh open models to start something and create something that's
domain specific or specialized for their needs. The third area that had enormous
needs. The third area that had enormous progress last year was the concept of physical intelligence of physical AI. AI
that understands not just language but AI understands you know if you will nature and it could be AI that understands the physical world here. AIS
that understand proteins, chemicals, um, uh, natural n physics of physics, for example, fluid dynamics, particle
physics, uh, quantum physics, AIs that are now now learning all these different structures and different uh different languages, if you will, proteins is
essentially a language. And so all of these AIs are now making such enormous progress that these industries industrial companies uh whether it's you
know manufacturing or drug discovery are really making great progress and one of the one of the great indicators is a partnership that we had with Lily uh that they realize now that AI has made
such extraordinary progress in understanding the structure of proteins and the structure of chemicals. um
essentially being able to interact and talk to the proteins like we talked to Chad GBT uh we're going to see some really break big breakthroughs.
So all these breakthroughs raises concerns about the human element. You and I have had many conversations on this but we need to tell the whole audience there is
a huge concern that AI is going to displace jobs. Um and you've been
displace jobs. Um and you've been arguing the opposite. Obviously the
buildout of AI as you talked about the biggest infrastructure buildout in history is going to occur which >> energy is creating jobs industry is creating jobs the infrastructure layer
is creating jobs land power and shell jobs I mean right it's incredible >> so let's get into that a little more detail so you actually believe we're we're going to face labor shortages
um and so how do you see that AI and robotics changing the nature of work rather than eliminating it? There's
several different ways that we could think through it. First of all, uh this is the largest infrastructure buildout in human history. That's going to that's going to create a lot of jobs. And it's
it's wonderful that that um the jobs are related to uh trade craft. Um, and uh uh we're going to have uh plumbers and electricians and construction and steel
workers and uh uh network network uh uh technicians and uh people who who uh uh install and fit out uh the equipment and uh all of these jobs we're going to in
the United States we're seeing quite a significant uh boom in this area.
salaries have gone up nearly doubled.
>> And so we're talking about six figure uh salaries for for people who are building uh chip factories or computer factories or AI factories. And we have a great shortage in that and and I'm really
delighted to see so so many people in so many countries really recognizing this important area. You know, everybody
important area. You know, everybody everybody should be able to make a great living. You don't need to have a PhD in
living. You don't need to have a PhD in computer science to do so. And so I'm delighted to see that. Um the second thing to realize and and so we theorize
about um the automation of of uh of tasks and things like that and what is the implication to jobs. Um you know I'll I'll just offer some anecdotes.
These are real world anecdotes of what has actually happened. Remember 10 years ago uh one of the first first professions that everybody thought was going to get wiped out was
radiology. And the reason for that was
radiology. And the reason for that was the first AI that became superhuman in capability was computer vision. And the
one of the largest applications of computer v vision is studying scans by radiologists.
Well, 10 years later, it is true that AI has now completely permeated and diffused into every aspect of radiology.
And [clears throat] it is true that radiologists um use uh AI to study scans. Now it the
impact is 100% and the impact is completely real. However,
completely real. However, not surprisingly I say not surprisingly if you reason from first principles not surprisingly the number of radiologists
have gone up. Is that because a lack of trust of or is that because the human interaction with the with the results of AI exactly >> is a better outcome?
>> Exactly. The reason for that is because a radiologist their job the purpose of their job >> is to diagnose disease to help patients
diagnose disease. That's the purpose of
diagnose disease. That's the purpose of their job. The task of the job includes
their job. The task of the job includes studying scans. The fact that they are
studying scans. The fact that they are able to study scans now infinitely fast allows them to spend more time with patients diagnosing their disease, interacting with the patients,
interacting with other clinicians. Well,
surprisingly, also not surprisingly, actually, as a result of that, the number of patients that the hospital can see has gone up because, you know, there are a lot of people waiting a long time
to get to get their scans done. And so
now because the the number of patients have gone up, the revenues of the hospital has gone up, they hire more radiologists. This is the same thing is
radiologists. This is the same thing is happening to nurses. We're 5 million nurses short in the United States um as
a result of using AI to do the charting and the transcription of of uh the the uh the patient visits. uh nurses spend half of their time charting
>> documenting >> and now they could use AI technology in one particular company a bridge their a partner of ours is doing incredible work as a result of that the nurses could
spend more time visiting patients >> human touch >> that's right and because you could now see more patients and we're no longer bottle less bottlenecked by the number of nurses more patients could get into
the hospital sooner as a result hospitals do better they hire more nurses And so surprisingly AI is increasing their pro not surprisingly AI is
increasing their productivity. As a
result the hospitals are doing better.
They want to hire more people. You have
too many people waiting too long to get into hospitals. And so these are two
into hospitals. And so these are two perfect examples. Now the easiest way to
perfect examples. Now the easiest way to think about whether what is the impact of AI on a particular job is to understand whether the job what is the
purpose of the job and what is the task of the job. My if you if you just put a camera on the two of us and just watched us, you would probably think the two of
us are typists because I spend all of my time typing and and so if AI could automate so many so much word prediction and help us
type, then we would be out of jobs. But
obviously that's not our purpose. And so
the question is what is the purpose of your job in the case of radiologists and nurses is to care for people and that that purpose is enhanced and made more
productive because the task has been ma has automated and so to the extent that you can reason about each one of the people's purpose versus the task I think it's a helpful framework let's let's
move [clears throat] this beyond the developed economies help me understand how AI I is it have broadened the world and helped the
world. I read a I read an anthropic
world. I read a I read an anthropic piece this past weekend that basically said the utilization of AI most recently is very dominant by the educated society
and they're even seeing the educated component of each society being heavily more utilized and they're obviously they're they're using it against their own model caught. So it maybe it may
have it its own biases.
Um, [clears throat] so how do we ensure that AI is a transformational technology maybe like what Wi-Fi and 5G was for the
emerging world and when you intersect that what does it mean for the emerging world and jobs how do we broaden the global economy and two you know getting
back to the whole job situation with robotics and AI there is going to be some substitution there and there's substitution in the United States already going on. We may be creating
more plumbers and electricians, but we probably need less analysts at financial institutions. Lawyers need less anal,
institutions. Lawyers need less anal, you know, because they're able to accumulate the data faster. So, let's
just pivot on to the emerging world for a second. In the developing world, how
a second. In the developing world, how do you see that play out? Well, first of all, um AI is infrastructure and there's not one country in the world I can't imagine that you need to have AI as part
of your infrastructure because every country has its electricity, you have your roads. You should have AI uh as
your roads. You should have AI uh as part of your infrastructure. You of
course you could always import AI. Um
but AI is not so incredibly hard to train these days. And because there's so many open models, these open models with with uh your your local expertise, you
should be able to create models uh that are helpful to your own own country. And
so I I really believe that that every country should get involved to build AI infrastructure, build your own AI, take advantage of your fundamental natural
resource, which is your language and culture, develop your AI, continue to refine it, and have your national intelligence be part of your part of
your e ecosystem. And so I I think that's number one. And number two, remember AI is super easy to use. It is
the is the easiest software to use in history and that's the reason why it's the fastest growing and fast most rapidly adopted. I mean in just a couple
rapidly adopted. I mean in just a couple of two three years it's coming up to almost a billion people. Um I think first of all claude is incredible.
They've anthropic has made a huge progress huge leap in developing claude.
We use it all over our company. uh the
coding capability of Claude uh its reasoning capability it's you know it its ability is just really incredible and and anybody who's a software company really ought to get involved and and use
it. Um on the other hand uh chat JPT is
it. Um on the other hand uh chat JPT is probably the most successful consumer AI in history and its ease of use and its approachability I think everybody should
get involved and whether whether it's um somebody in a developing country or uh you know somebody a student uh it is
very clear that it is essential to learn how to use AI how to direct an AI how to prompt an AI how to manage an AI how to guard rail the AI I evaluate the AI.
These skills are no different than leading people, managing people, things that you and I do all the time. So in
the future, instead of biological, you know, carbon based AIs, in the future, we're also going to have um digital versions of AIS, silicon versions of AIS, and we and we'll have to manage
them. They're just part of our digital
them. They're just part of our digital digital workforce, if you will. And so I I would I would advocate that for the developing countries uh build your infrastructure, get engaged in AI and
and and recognize that AI is likely to close the technology divide, >> right?
>> Because it is so easy to use and so abundant and so accessible. And so, you know, I I'm I'm actually fairly optimistic about the potential of AI to
lift um the countries that are that are um uh that are emerging. And um uh for many people who haven't had computer science degree, uh all of you can be
programmers now, you know, and so in the past, we had to learn how to program a computer. Now, you program a computer
computer. Now, you program a computer [clears throat] by saying to the computer, how do I program you? you
know, and if I if you don't know how to use an AI, just go up to the AI and say, I don't know how to use an AI. How do I use an AI? And it would explain it to you. And you know, you say, I like to I
you. And you know, you say, I like to I like to write a program to create my own website. How do I do that? And it says
website. How do I do that? And it says it would ask you a whole bunch of questions about what kind of website you would like to build and then write you the code. And so it is that easy to use.
the code. And so it is that easy to use.
And that's of course the the incredible, you know, power of AI, which which is exciting. Two quick questions, then
exciting. Two quick questions, then we're going to run out of time. We're
[clears throat] sitting here in Europe.
When we were talking about a lot of companies, we mentioned a lot of US companies and Asian companies. Um,
talk to us about how AI uh and and and the success of Europe and the future of Europe can intersect and what and how do you see Nvidia play that role here in Europe? Well, I get I have the benefit
Europe? Well, I get I have the benefit Nvidia has the benefit of working with every AI company in the world and uh because we're low in the in the
infrastructure layer and we power um AI across the board and we power AI that are languages the you know their biology their physics their um world models and
related to manufacturing and robotics and and the the thing that's really really quite exciting for Europe is remember your industrial base is so strong. The in the industrial
strong. The in the industrial manufacturing base in Europe is incredibly strong. This is your
incredibly strong. This is your opportunity to now leap past the era of software. United States really led the
software. United States really led the era of software. Um AI is software that doesn't need to write software. You
don't write AI, you teach AI. And so get get in early now so that you could now fuse your industrial capability, your manufacturing capability with artificial
intelligence and that brings you into the world of physical AI or robotics.
You know, robotics is is a once in a generation opportunity for the for the European nations and whether whether it's you know uh well all of the countries that I visit here uh
industrial base is really really strong.
Um the other thing to realize is that that so much of of uh the deep sciences are still very very strong here in Europe, >> right? And the deep sciences now have
>> right? And the deep sciences now have the benefit of applying artificial intelligence to accelerate your discovery. And so I I um I think that
discovery. And so I I um I think that that it's fairly certain that you have to get serious about increasing your
energy supply so that you could invest in the infrastructure layer so that you could have a rich ecosystem of artificial intelligence here in Europe.
So what so what I'm hearing is we're far from an AI bubble.
The question is are we investing enough?
let's turn the turn it around because there are so many people talking about a bubble but the question is what I'm hearing from you is you know are we investing enough to do what we need to
do to broaden the global economy >> and so one good test on the AI bubble is to recognize that Nvidia has now has now millions of NVIDIA GPUs in the cloud
we're in every cloud um you know we're used everywhere and if you try to rent an Nvidia GPU these days it's so incredibly hard And the spot price of
GPU rentals is going up. Not just the latest generation, but two generation old GPUs. The spot price of rentals are
old GPUs. The spot price of rentals are going up. And the reason for that is
going up. And the reason for that is because the number of AI companies that are being created, the number of companies shifting their R&D budget.
Lilia is a great example. Uh three years ago, most of their R&D budget, all of their R&D budget was probably wet labs.
um notice the big AI supercomputer that they've invested in the big AI lab.
Increasingly that R&D budget is going to shift towards AI and so the AI bubble is is um uh comes about because the investments are large and
the investments are large uh because we have to build the infrastructure necessary for all of the layers of AI above it. And so I I think the um uh the
above it. And so I I think the um uh the opportunity is really quite extraordinary and everybody ought to get involved. Everybody ought to get
involved. Everybody ought to get engaged. Uh we need more energy. I think
engaged. Uh we need more energy. I think
that we all recognize that we need more land power and shell. Um uh we need more uh trade skill workers and in fact that
population of workforce is so strong here in Europe.
>> Yes.
In a lot of ways, the United States lost that um in the last, you know, 20, 30 years. Um but it's still incredibly
years. Um but it's still incredibly strong here in Europe. It's it's an extraordinary opportunity you got to take advantage of. And so I I would, you know, in I know that where where Larry
and I work, uh we uh we see the the investment opportunities um and the investment uh scale is going up. uh the
number of startups as I mentioned earlier that LA 2025 the largest investment year in VC history over a
hundred billion dollars around the world most of it was AI natives and so these AI companies are building basically the application layer above and they're going to need infrastructure they're
going to need our investment um you know and go build this future >> and I actually believe it's going to be a great investment for pension funds around the world to to be part of that to grow with this AI world. And this is
one of my messages as so many political leaders. We need to make sure that the
leaders. We need to make sure that the average pensioner, the average saver is is a part of that growth. If they're
just watching it from the sidelines, you know, they're they're going to feel left out. And we want to invest in
out. And we want to invest in infrastructure, >> right?
>> In infrastructure is a great investment option. This is the single
option. This is the single >> largest infrastructure buildout in human history. Get involved.
history. Get involved.
>> We're out of time. Hopefully everybody
in the audience and everybody on the web streaming seeing the the power of Jensen Wong as a leader not just a leader in technology and AI but a leader uh in
business and also a leader in in heart and soul which is really important today having that leadership from the heart and the soul. So thank you everyone.
Thank you everybody. [applause]
Good morning.
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